Hour 1 – Geno Auriemma Lost His Cool, Ian Eagle

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show (Hour 1 – Geno Auriemma Lost His Cool, Ian Eagle)

Date: April 6, 2026
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Overview

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show centers on anticipation for the NCAA men’s basketball national title game between Michigan and UConn, with insights on both teams’ journeys, strategies, and storylines. The show also discusses the aftermath of the women’s Final Four—specifically Geno Auriemma's emotional reaction after UConn's loss to South Carolina and the coaching dynamics between Auriemma and Dawn Staley. Later, sportscaster Ian Eagle joins to offer behind-the-scenes perspectives on calling major games and his take on the shifts in college athletics, NIL, and the transfer portal. As always, Dan and the Danettes blend analysis with humor and spontaneous conversation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Previewing the NCAA Men’s National Title Game

• Michigan (favored by 6.5 points) vs. UConn:
  • Dan notes that being a #2 seed usually means respect, but UConn is still a clear underdog, despite their strong record covering spreads in tournament games ([02:46], [03:40]).
  • UConn is praised as a team whose strength is in "the sum of the parts" rather than flashy individual stars.
  • Dan: “UConn has now covered 17 of its last 18 tournament games and no one’s giving UConn much of a chance…But all it takes is one night, one moment, and one decision” ([03:40]).
• Pace of Play Analysis:
  • Michigan wants an up-tempo game; thrives with more than 63 possessions.
  • UConn’s strategy is to slow the game and force each possession to matter, referencing teams like Purdue and Duke who were able to beat Michigan by controlling the pace ([06:03]).
• Depth Perception in Stadiums:
  • Dan shares how shooting in arenas with cavernous backdrops (like a Superdome) affects players’ shooting, referencing Dusty May prepping his players by shooting in a football stadium ([08:10]).
  • Stat: “Michigan shot 44% from three…Arizona shot 35%...UConn shot 36%...” ([08:55]).

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2. Who Are You Rooting For? – Poll Question Roundtable ([10:03])

• The Danettes Weigh In:
  • Co-host Todd: “I want Michigan to win, and I think they will win. No offense to Marvin Prince. Let’s just mix it up a little bit, have a different winner” ([10:14]).
  • Marvin: “Oh, it’s a tough one, but I’m gonna go UConn” ([10:47]).
  • Paulie: “Connecticut’s the better story.”
  • Discussion highlights how UConn is an underdog with a recent history of success, while Michigan’s rapid turnaround under Dusty May is also compelling ([11:21]).
• Dan’s View:
  • "Once again, I'm rooting for the story." ([12:05])

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3. Women’s NCAA: Geno Auriemma “Loses His Cool” ([13:48])

• South Carolina Outplays UConn:
  • Dan compares Don Staley’s game plan to NFL’s Legion of Boom, noting the physical, defensive intensity allowed by referees ([13:48]).
• The Post-game Exchange:
  • Geno Auriemma (14:06):

    “For 41 years, I’ve been coaching…protocol is before the game you meet at half court… and I waited there for, like, three minutes. So it is what it is.”

  • Dawn Staley (14:35):

    “You can ask Geno the question. You know, he's the one that initiated the conversation. I don't want… what happened there to dampen what we accomplished today.”

• Dan’s Take:
  • Focuses on the coaches’ composure:

    “These head coaches always are preaching composure…they don’t do well under pressure. And that happened to Geno. He melted down right there in front of us” ([15:30]).

• NCAA Women’s Title:
  • UCLA dominated South Carolina, securing the national championship; Dan jokes about calling UCLA a “long-standing Big Ten member” ([16:20]).

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4. The Impact of NIL and Transfer Portal

• Dan and Ian Eagle later discuss how Name-Image-Likeness (NIL) and transfer regulations have shifted the competitive landscape. Dan suggests this has been “a great year for college athletics” ([36:00]).
• Discussion on players staying in college due to NIL and the resulting increase in talent and competitiveness at the college level ([36:34], [37:00]).
• Ian Eagle:

  “You’re getting highly competitive games, you’re getting a deeper pool of talent because players are staying longer… you hope that you’re getting a higher quality of play when you get to the biggest stages of the season” ([36:34]).

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5. Interview: Ian Eagle on Calling the Championship & Behind-the-Scenes

Begins at [24:17]

• On the Chain Smokers Halftime Show:
  • Ian shares an amusing incident where he nearly stumbled into the band’s camera shot:

    “I was this close to being the third chain smoker walking out onto the floor. I was so discombobulated…” ([24:59])

• Breakdown of Calling Big-Moment Games:
  • Reflects on the buzzer beater in the UConn game:

    “It really is one of those slow motion type of situations where you’re processing in real time that this is going to go down as an all-timer…but to resonate and get to that other level, I think you got to win it” ([28:21]).

• Calling Games in a Dome:
  • “Huge, huge sight lines. Completely different. You’re not at your normal level of watching the game, so the action is actually above you…corners, I can’t tell if it’s a three-pointer or not” ([29:37]).
• On Coaches’ Proximity:
  • “We are so far away…it is impossible to hear what’s happening on the other side of the court…with this broadcast setup, you are on the other side” ([31:29]).
• On Dusty May’s Job at Michigan:
  • “They won eight games two seasons ago, they won eight games and now they’re playing for a chip” ([35:48]).

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6. Ongoing Coaching Carousel, NIL & College Sports Landscape ([22:19], [46:20])

• Tommy Lloyd Staying at Arizona:
  • Arizona secures Lloyd’s services with pay raise and autonomy.
• North Carolina’s Search for Coach:
  • North Carolina “handing out bags like it’s trick or treat and nobody has taken it” ([48:50]).
• Dan’s Bars/Jokes:
  • Playful banter: “Dropping bars…handing out bags like it’s trick or treat.” ([48:50])
  • “Notorious DP. You know me. I’m ODP.” ([49:15])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Dan Patrick on UConn’s chances:

  “This is a team…that’s what makes UConn great. They just seem to know what to do, when to do it, and they rely on a variety of people…” — [03:40]

• Co-host Marvin Prince:

  “It’s January, February, UConn, April.” ([05:42])

• Geno Auriemma (on handshake incident):

  “For 41 years, I’ve been coaching ... and I waited there for, like, three minutes. So it is what it is.” ([14:06])

• Dan on Coaches Losing Composure:

  “These head coaches always are preaching composure ... The coaches, they're the ones you got to watch out for. They don’t do well under pressure. And that happened to Geno.” ([15:30])

• Ian Eagle on being a ‘third Chain Smoker’:

  “I was this close to being the third chain smoker walking out onto the floor. I was so discombobulated…” ([24:59])

• Ian Eagle (on buzzer beater):

  “It really is one of those slow motion type of situations where you’re processing in real time that this is going to go down as an all-timer…” ([28:21])

• Dan Patrick on the coaching market:

  “Handing out bags like it’s trick or treat and nobody has taken it. Maybe Billy Donovan is your guy.” ([48:50])

• Dan’s playful sign-off:

  “Dropping bars... I’m ODP.” ([49:15])

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Important Timestamps

| Time | Segment / Topic | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:46 | Show opens with national title game preview | | 06:03 | Michigan/UConn pace and possession stats | | 10:03 | Poll question: Who are you rooting for, UConn or Michigan? | | 13:48 | Women’s title game: Auriemma vs Staley – composure and controversy | | 14:06 | Auriemma on handshake incident (quote) | | 14:35 | Staley response (quote) | | 24:17 | Interview: Ian Eagle joins to discuss calling the championship game | | 24:59 | Ian Eagle’s Chain Smokers story | | 29:37 | Calling games in a dome – challenges | | 31:29 | Broadcast logistics: hearing coaches and being away from benches | | 34:15 | Dusty May’s impact at Michigan | | 36:00 | NIL and transfer portal discussion; impact on college sports | | 48:50 | Coaching carousel; “handing out bags like it’s trick or treat” joke | | 49:15 | Dan’s “dropping bars...ODP” lighthearted exchange |

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Tone & Style

Dan Patrick and the Danettes maintain a conversational and often humorous tone, blending serious sports insight with banter, analogies, and spontaneous jokes (e.g., “ODP,” “dropping bars”). Guest Ian Eagle matches the show’s style with engaging stories and clear, thoughtful analysis.

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Summary

Hour 1 of The Dan Patrick Show ahead of the NCAA men’s basketball championship offers deep analysis of Michigan and UConn, a colorful breakdown of the coaching personalities in women's basketball, candid debate about college athletics’ changing landscape, and an entertaining chat with broadcaster Ian Eagle. Listeners gain both context for the title game and a snapshot of March (and April) Madness atmospheres — the games, the drama, the music, the broadcast challenges, and the “stories” behind the scores.

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Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

I hope you had a great weekend. Everybody's here. Minister of humor, Fritzi. Don't call him Shorty. Seaton's here. Marv, Paulie, yours truly and the backroom guys as well. National title game coming up tonight. Ian Eagle will be on the call. He'll be on the show coming up in 20 minutes from now. Michigan is favored by six and a half. Last week I gave you the hypothetical lines depending on the matchup. This is before the Final Four and Michigan was going to be favored by five and a half over Yukon. Now it's up to six and a half. I think in some places went up to seven and a half. Keep this in mind. UConn has now covered 17 of its last 18 tournament games and no one's giving Yukon much of a chance as a six and a half point underdog. But this is a team. They lost to Arizona by four to start the year and they didn't have two of their best players, Terrace Reed Jr. And Braylon Mullins, but they've sort of defied the odds and that's the great part of this time of the year. More on that coming up. In a moment we'll have a play of the day poll question. Stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. Thank you for checking out the rec tech grills. We have just made meat Friday a whole lot better. Upgrade your grill with rec tech. More heat, more consistent temperature control. They're built like a tank. Learn more@ recteq rectech.com Nothing compares to cooking on a rec tech. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates, iHeartradio, Fox Sports Radio as well. Being a number two seed in the tournament usually means you're going to get respect. But that's not the case going into tonight's national title game because UConn is a clear underdog. Michigan look dominating and UConn has had to grind out everything so far in the tournament. But the stage is different tonight because yeah, have to give UConn a chance. It's not the NBA no. 7 game series. It's 40 minutes. That's it. And you do have Dan Hurley on your side, and that is an advantage. I don't think that this is a great UConn team, even a very good team, but I think it is a. Now, I'm talking about the individuals, the sum of the parts. That's what makes UConn great. They just seem to know what to do, when to do it, and they rely on a variety of people and in doing that. So the odds are certainly in Michigan's favor. But all it takes is one night, one moment and one decision and maybe Connecticut or maybe one shining moment.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Yes, exactly what type of moment are

[Dan Patrick]

you talking about, a shining moment or a dining moment? Marvin is flying the colors with his Yukon Huskies. How nervous are you, Marvin?

[Marvin Prince]

You know what? After watching the second game, I was like, whoa, this is about to be a real tough matchup. But I believe in my boys, though. I mean, look, It's January, February, UConn, April.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

We're here.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay? Ray Allen, former UConn Husky.

[Marvin Prince]

Come on now.

[Dan Patrick]

Come on. Oh, Ray, come on.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Where's Rip Hamilton?

[Dan Patrick]

Hi, Ray. Shoot some jumpers.

[Marvin Prince]

This is almost like if Walter Payton was on the show.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, the 877 3DP show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. And once again, play of the day poll question Saturday [e-mail] Twitter handle the DP Show. So got out all the requirements here. Ready to set sail. So I and Eagle will be on the call coming up here in a little bit. But Michigan rolling over Arizona, everybody wanted that to be the national title game. Oh, this is, this is now going into that game. These were two of the highest ranked teams in NCAA history. Boy, it didn't look that way. This is one of those. If they played seven games, Michigan probably winning four or five the way they looked. And I mean, they're just an older team, but they're dominating now. There are things to keep an eye on tonight. And when you, when you look at. And these, this is minutia here, but it fascinates me. Michigan is.02 this season with 63 possessions or less. They want to play up tempo. They want to get the game into the upper 70s, into the 80s. But keep this in mind. And this, this is what Yukon's method to the madness of pulling off a surprise is. They want this game in the 60s. They want to slow this game down the best they can. Purdue got Michigan. That was a 63 possession game. Duke beat Michigan 62. Possession game. And they won that one. If you're going to beat Michigan, slow it down and make sure every possession matters. And this is what happens against a great offense. You want to make sure that when they get the ball, they feel like they have to score. If it's running up and down, you don't have that pressure on each possession. But this is what Connecticut is going to try to do. They're going to try to make you slow it down the best they can. Dusty May did a great thing. And if you've ever shot in a big Superdome, big arena where there's 70,000 there, depth perception is real. Having done it once before and I'm like, whoa. And it took a little while before you're, like, trying because the seats are way behind the basket and all of a sudden you're shooting. And when you shoot, you're always looking for something. And sometimes it feels like the basket's an illusion. It's either closer or further away because of the background. Well, Dusty May took his team to the football field so they could shoot hoops, so they could shoot threes. So you would have a cavernous background here. It's just a little thing. Now, I don't know how much it mattered. Michigan shot 44% from three point range. Arizona shot 35%. Illinois shot 30, 23%. Yukon shot 36%. So these are real numbers. I don't know if his team shooting in the big house helped them, but it didn't hurt them. But you see that video where they're out there shooting hoops. You know, there's a gold post there and there's a basketball hoop. But if you, if you've shot in something that has that background, that gives you a little bit of an illusion, it takes you a little bit a while, a little bit of time to get used to that background. But it's the small things here. And Dusty May has done a wonderful job and he'll go toe to toe with Dan Hurley. But it's fun to see those little things. And for as much as I thought Arizona was my pick because I thought start to finish, they were the best team I saw. But I thought Michigan was the second best team I, I saw. Boy, it didn't look like that over the weekend. All right, Seaton, what's poll question today? Phone calls always welcome. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Well, Dan, we got to get America on record. Who are you rooting for? Tonight, Connecticut or Michigan rooting for?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, rooting.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Who do you want to win tonight?

[Dan Patrick]

Todd, start with you?

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

I want Michigan to win, and I think they will win. No offense to Marvin Prince. Let's just mix it up a little bit, have a different winner.

[Dan Patrick]

Seems like you were hesitant in giving me your.

[Co-host or Panelist 2]

I was hesitant because I don't want to hurt Marvin's feelings, but they've. They've had a lot of winning. Yukon. I'm a little upset with Yukon and the bit. Some of the behavior of the men's and the coaches of the men's and women's team. So maybe the Wolverines get it.

[Dan Patrick]

Who were you rooting for?

[Pandora Jewelry Commercial Voice]

Connecticut.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

I don't root for Michigan ever. Not for anything, Marvin. Especially not in this tournament.

[Dan Patrick]

Not in this game.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Hell, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Marvin.

[Marvin Prince]

Oh, it's a tough one, but I'm gonna go Yukon.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right, Paul?

[Commercial Voice 1]

Yeah. Connecticut.

[Dan Patrick]

Connecticut's the better story. Oh, you guys think Michigan winning is a better story? Yeah.

[Commercial Voice 1]

Dusty May is saucy, new on the scene, raising up their program after a couple down years.

[Dan Patrick]

But Danny Hurley is must see tv. Yeah.

[Commercial Voice 1]

I just say, I guess the new story, not the better story.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah. Yukon is more of a story than if Mich. Mean, Michigan's favored by six and a half. Yes.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

It's a huge turnaround, though, for Michigan.

[Dan Patrick]

That. Yes.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

That should be more of a story.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yeah. When you look at where they were with you on how. I mean, look at Michigan here recently, certainly what happened with the football program, but with the basketball program with Juwan Howard and Dusty May quietly comes in there and it's all of a sudden you go, man, they're a good team. And he's done a great job. But it'll be fun. You know, coaches going toe to toe, maybe like the women's tournament with Gino Oriemma, Don Staley, that was wild. You know, I'm watching the game and I found myself rooting for South Carolina because of the way they played. They were playing great. They were playing hard. And. But if UConn won and continued to win, you know, and then matched up with ucla, I would have been fine with that. But once again, I'm rooting for the story. And I thought Don Staley's team put on a defensive clinic. This is where you have a team that is not in tight games the entire year. They're probably not roughed up the entire year. They're not pushed. Nobody ripped anybody's jersey. That was Sarah Stronger, did that to herself. But Gino, when He did that interview with Holly Row. I go, oh, he knows he's in trouble. And I thought, south Carolina is going to win this game. In fact, Paulie goes, I got Connecticut winning by three. I think I. I go pie to the face. And Paulie goes, well, I don't feel that confident.

[Commercial Voice 1]

Not that.

[Dan Patrick]

And I go, you know, south Carolina was the better team that night. Now, if they play seven games, UConn's a better team. UConn got surprised, and I think Gino knew. Gino's mad because he lost, but he's, I think, really mad because he lost to Don Staley. And Don Staley is not afraid. Gino, greatest women's coach of all time. Don Staley doesn't take a backseat to anybody in her style. The players, the. They played hard. That was a team effort. And they were beating Connecticut to spaces on the floor. They were being physical. And that's one of those where you roll the dice, where you go, will they. Will they let us play, or are they going to call this? Because if they call it ticky tack, that game would be different. They allowed South Carolina to play the way South Carolina wanted to play. It's almost like the Legion of Boom with the, you know, Seattle Seahawks. If you let Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas play this way, they will play this way, and they'll beat you. But if you call it now, all of a sudden, it's different. But here is Gino Auriemma talking about why he was upset with don Staley.

[Gino Auriemma]

For 41 years, I've been coaching, and I've been, I don't know, 30, 25 Final Fours, and the protocol is before the game, you meet that half court. Anybody ever see that before? Two coaches meet at half court and they shake hands. Correct. Ever Said. They announce it on the. On the loudspeaker. And I waited there for, like, three minutes. So it is what it is.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, here is Don Staley, post game, with the interaction with Gino Oriam.

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And 1. You can ask Gino the question. You know, he's the one that initiated the. The conversation. I. I don't want, you know, what happened there to dampen what we were accomplished today.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it. I wasn't quite sure what was going on, what was said, but then in his interview with Holly Row, he was talking about the language Don Staley was using towards the official. Somebody ripped Sarah Strong's jersey, talking about the fouls. It was a double standard. So there was a lot going on in that moment. And I thought, man, he is losing composure. Here. And you could tell that because I think he was. I don't know why he would say this to Holly Rowe in the moment. She can't do anything. She can't change anything. That's where you got to talk to the officials to try to get them to understand what's going on. But hey, Gino should be criticized. I always say. These head coaches always are preaching composure. They want their players to be cool under fire. Hey, don't let the pressure get to you. The coaches, they're the ones you got to watch out for. They, they don't do well under pressure. And that happened to Gino. He melted down right there in front of us. Greatest coach, women's basketball history, Dawn Staley. That's who she is. She not afraid of anybody. And, but I think South Carolina played their national title game against Connecticut. And then all of a sudden UCLA said, oh, by the way, you got to play us for the national title. And they demolished him. I mean, give credit ucla. Hey, the Big Ten wins another national championship. They long standing UCLA Bruins are the Big Ten. It was like when I saw all the Big Ten with the national title. I go, who? Oh, that's right. Ucla. Long standing member of the Big Ten. Yes, Paul.

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It felt on Sunday like UCLA had seven players on the court. It was just a swarm the whole game.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, fun game.

[Commercial Voice 1]

It was never a game. And that was a disappointing part.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, because you want that national title game like tonight. I think the. I think this tournament has been great. I think there have been great moments here. Now we haven't had Cinderella. They're talking about expanding to 76 teams next year. Maybe as early as next year. And I get that. And I want to talk to Ian Eagle about this because nil has worked, hasn't it? I know we don't like guys transferring and you know, the transfer portal and all of that, but it, but it feels like college football gave us Indiana this year. College basketball is going to give us a great championship game coming up tonight. We've had great stories here and I'm curious, are college athletics in that bad of a condition that the President of the United States is issuing an executive order to help clean this up? I would probably be on the side of college athletics seem to have had a pretty good year. We'll take a break. We'll come up with a poll question. We'll get to phone calls coming up. 877-3DP show Ian Eagle calling the national title gang. He'll join us next here. Dan Patrick show.

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[Dan Patrick]

to keep you informed through my college basketball source and he's been giving me information whether Tommy Lloyd chances that he could go decided to stay at Arizona. They're going to make him a top five paid coach. Also, he wanted total autonomy. I told you that there was maybe a disconnect in the administration. Well, Arizona fixed that that he doesn't have to report to the athletic director. So he's going to stay at Arizona. I was told all along that Dusty May is not going anywhere. Michigan's athletic director is not going to let him go anywhere. So you might have Scott Drew's name coming up. You also have Billy Donovan's name and my source said, hey, here's something to keep an eye on. The Chicago Bulls travel to DC and they're there through Thursday. North Carolina has Billy Donovan there for four Days in one location. Bill Belichick also reported. Well, I'm reporting as involved. He's tight with Donovan so he's going to be there for four days. They want to see if they can get a deal with Billy Donovan by tomorrow. Yes.

[Commercial Voice 1]

Paul, does this North Carolina basketball coaching situation feeling a little bit like Penn State? Five months.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that's great call. Great call. Also, some people want to know why I didn't bring up the chain smokers in the first segment. I want to stay in my lane on the chain smokers.

[Co-host or Panelist 1]

People wanted to know why you weren't.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I think they were mocking that the chain smokers were performing. And I kept thinking when I'm watching I'm like, who asked for this?

[Commercial Voice 1]

Correct.

[Dan Patrick]

Like what. What happened here was chain smokers. Were they scheduled for the building and then they had a basketball game that. And so we just combined both of them. Yes, Paul, to be clear, you could

[Commercial Voice 1]

not be anti chain smoker and just anti having a concert. They're a fine band. I'm sure they do good work and are nice people. It's just the placement of any band at that juncture.

[Dan Patrick]

Stay in your lane, Paul. Okay with the chain smokers. Yes, I an Eagle or Ian Igel. He is the play by play voice for the national title game and he joins us now. What did you think of the chain smokers? What an opening question.

[Ian Eagle]

Do I stay in my lane or do I just give you my my genuine thoughts? The shocker for me in all of it, Bill Raftery was in the mosh pit.

[Dan Patrick]

Couldn't believe it.

[Ian Eagle]

Where's Bill?

[Dan Patrick]

I didn't see that.

[Commercial Voice 7]

You're smoking my chain, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

But you knew the chain smokers were going to be performing. You had to be ready for that moment. Correct.

[Ian Eagle]

The crazy part, this is not shocking considering just the timing of everything. We have a green room in between games. So I go to the green room. You know, you fresh it up, you grab a slider. It's a little bit of food, have a bite, move on. I now walk out of the green room and the area in which to get back to our seats roped off. And I know I have to get back there because we have to do our stuff immediately after the chain smokers. So I get around the roped off area and I start walking and someone is freaking out running towards me and I look up and the chain smokers are standing there with a camera facing them. I was this close to being the third chain smoker walking out onto the floor. I was so discombobulated and disoriented and, man, that. That would have been a career highlight.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you already had it. You had the call in the Yukon game. Like, have you had anything that compared to that moment?

[Ian Eagle]

Yeah, that was wild. I think the. The fact that it was such a frenzy makes it different than, you know, a normal buzzer beater or last second clutch shot, because when they're triggering the inbound, you just assume foul game, it's going to be two or three more possessions. And for it to turn as quickly as it did and for Mullins, for it to end up in his hands, to get it done, to advance to Indianapolis in his hometown, to come back from 19 down to do it against Duke, to have Raph and Grant in a state of shock next to me, I know that that seemed to get a lot of attention the next day. And that's cool that you get this behind the scenes look. Grant said it might be the first time in his life that he's a meme. And Raf said, what's a meme? He had no idea.

[Dan Patrick]

But are you watching the monitor or the game in a moment like that?

[Ian Eagle]

I was watching the game and then what I tend to do is the second the play ends, I go to the monitor to try to match whatever pictures are being shown. So that's just muscle memory. And I was lifted out of my chair when the ball went in. Grant, if you look very closely, because the way the camera was set up, a ball hit the camera late in the second half and shifted it over so it made it a two shot, which is normally a three shot with all three of us in there. So I was right on the periphery. As the steal takes place, Grant digs his arm into my rib cage and I think unknowingly lifted me a bit. And as it all developed, I went up and made the call and then sat back down. And it really is one of those slow motion type of situations where you're processing in real time that this is going to go down as an all timer. But here's the crazy thing. We were talking about this, Dan. There have been buzzer beaters and incredible ones prior to the championship round. I think they're only really remembered, truly remembered in history and to live on forever if you win the title. They're highlights and they're moments. And he'll always be remembered in stores, remembered in his home state. But to resonate and get to that other level, I think you got to win it. And then that thing just lives on in perpetuity.

[Dan Patrick]

Ian Eagle Will be on the call with Grant Hill, Bill Raftery, Tracy Wolfson. And tipoff is 8:50 Eastern.

[Ian Eagle]

Yep.

[Dan Patrick]

When did it change from 9:20 to 8:50?

[Ian Eagle]

This is a college basketball history that I can't answer. I'd like to phone a friend. When did it change?

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Ian Eagle]

Dan needs to know.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Ian Eagle]

Yeah, get on it. A few years ago.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, thank you. Great research staff there that you have.

[Ian Eagle]

Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Calling a game in a dome or in a arena or at a school, university.

[Ian Eagle]

Biggest difference, Huge, huge sight lines. Completely different. You're not at your normal level of watching the game, so the action is actually above you. And certain things that you just know based on where your eyes go from doing game after game after game. You've got to retrain your brain in the first five minutes. Sight lines in the corners, I can tell you and it'll probably happen again. Anything in the far corners, I can't tell if it's a three pointer or not. I have to wait, I have to pause. I have to be patient and not commit normally, you know, right away so that it's a little disconcerting because it's the biggest game of the year and you can't go through the normal mode of your brain. And then everything is far away. The fans are far away. You can't see the fans faces normally in college basketball setup, they're really close. Regular NBA arenas, they're close enough so everything's just a little bit detached and it feels like it's on a bit of a one second delay. I can't hear the crowd burst through like I would in an intimate setting. You know, there were 70,000 plus people there and it's cavernous. And I do think it's real. I know we say it every year. I do think they have a problem. The players do in the first few minutes of getting adjusted, making shots, feeling comfortable, getting acclimated. But it's the same for both teams and it's part of the deal. It's. It's the biggest stage possible in college basketball and it's obviously working.

[Dan Patrick]

How much will you hear Danny Hurley tonight?

[Ian Eagle]

0. 0. We are so far away it is impossible to hear what's happening on the other side of the court. So interesting NBA local broadcast. You are normally. Normally they've changed this a bit. But in the good old days you were courtside on the benches side.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Ian Eagle]

National you were on the other side. Which was an adjustment for me that, that first couple of years of doing it because there were things you would pick up Small little nuances, facial expressions, body language between coach player, between coach official that you just don't see on the other side. And now, obviously, with this broadcast setup, you are on the other side. There's also a roving camera that looks like one of those robots that would deliver your food for DoorDash, which I don't know if you've had that yet. I had a game in Dallas this year, and I ended up ordering out. And then they inform you that the robot is coming to deliver your food. So I go downstairs to meet the robot, and I see it from two blocks away. And now I'm concerned for the robot because I don't know how he's going to negotiate the sidewalk. And I think, now should I go meet him? Do I wait? Do I. Do I stop and. And get there a little earlier and knock on the door? I don't know what to do. So finally it comes up, and two people that just happened to be walking by as I'm now performing with my phone, they're. What's going on here? It's a delivery robot. And I hit the button on my phone and it opens the hatch.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Ian Eagle]

And it was as if I was walking on the moon. They were astounded at what took place. And my chicken sandwich, like, rises up. So that. That's also happening. It's. It's going back and forth in front of me during game action. And you could hear like

[Dan Patrick]

that.

[Ian Eagle]

I hear.

[Dan Patrick]

I won't hear Dan Hurley, the Michigan story. What Dusty May has done and this run like they're blowing people out. People were, you know, ranting and raving that Arizona, Michigan should be for the national title. Yes, well, I heard that. I. I don't know if Dusty Mayo get the credit. He probably deserves the turnaround at Michigan. Now, what they've done in the tournament and blowing people out, and of course, you got to win this. But how do you encapsulate what he's done at Michigan?

[Ian Eagle]

Well, I think his ability to build the program so quickly, to identify talent, to figure out which pieces would work together. Look, there's a financial aspect to this. You can't ignore it. It's there, but they've done it correctly. They've really had an architect in Dusty May that knew what to do and how to do it quickly. And that is one thing now, in the way the college basketball is set up for these major programs because of the money. If you evaluate talent well, identify it and then develop it in one season, you can be right here playing for a Championship. There are other teams that have the same money, if not more money, and they identified the wrong talent or they didn't evaluate correctly, or they didn't develop correctly. And they're not here. So credit has to be given to Dusty Mae, basically. Now, as a head coach, in my mind, in college basketball, you are a gm, you are a scout, you are a coach, you are a dad, you are a teacher, you are a mentor. You're all of those things rolled into one. And when ads are looking for someone to be the face of their program, they have to take that into account. You have to check a lot of boxes. But what he's done here is really incredible. And you're right, they won eight games. Two seasons ago, they won eight games and now they're, they're playing for a chip.

[Dan Patrick]

College athletics. If we look at NIL and transfer portal. Yep, I think this has been a great year for college athletics.

[Ian Eagle]

I agree.

[Dan Patrick]

Maybe that's not a popular opinion, but you know, you have Indiana winning the football championship.

[Commercial Voice 1]

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[Dan Patrick]

You get transfers now. I, I would like for them to sign contracts. I, you know, have it a little more uniform, a little more uniformity here. But, you know, the nil transfer portal, the, you know, the president with an executive order kind of wants to limit this stuff. But I think if you sign a contract, you want to transfer, why can't there be a buyout to that? You know, make it transactional? Everything's above board.

[Ian Eagle]

Yeah, it is transactional right now. It does feel that way. I do agree that it's been a banner year. You're getting highly competitive games, you're getting a deeper pool of talent because players are staying longer based on the fact that they can make money. And they don't just take their chances to go to the NBA and start the clock. That's a term I heard quite a bit for a number of years for players that were certainly going to be NBA stars. If you're Cooper Flagg, yes, you're going to the pros, you're starting the clock for your next contract. It makes perfect sense from a financial standpoint. But for someone that was a borderline first round pick or a second round pick, I don't know if the logic was there for that same approach. Now you stay, you develop your skills, you maybe have a shining moment or two in your college career, you get paid for it, and maybe, just maybe, you come out on the other side a better player. Yaxel Wendeborg is a more complete player now than he would have been a year ago, if he came out of uab, right to the NBA and instead he gets this incredible experience and maybe he caps it off with a championship. Look, it's not perfect. I recognize that. I think a lot of us, though, jumped the gun and thought, man, this is going to be rough. This is going to be a really chaotic time in college athletics. It's worked out from a competitive point of view. And yes, I'm saying this, I recognize that the mid major is still left out a bit, but the reality was the mid majors were outliers in this to begin with. Now, at the very least, you hope that you're getting a higher quality of play when you get to the biggest stages of the season.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I look at Braylon Mullins and he's going to be, you know, projected to be a first round draft pick.

[Ian Eagle]

Yep.

[Dan Patrick]

Now he's not ready, but teams are going to say, hey, we'll take him and let him develop for two years.

[Ian Eagle]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

And like Reed shepherd with Houston.

[Ian Eagle]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Took him high. And then we're like, all right, we'll bring him along. Now all of a sudden you see, you know, Reed with some highlights there. And that might be the case for Braylon Mullins. That do I, do I stay and make a little bit of money or do I go and get started on that first contract in the NBA? And. And it feels like that's you're either ready to go, you jump in, or maybe you're not even ready to go, but you go because you're going to be a longtime NBA player or you stay because you might not be that long term player.

[Ian Eagle]

Yeah, there, there was a stretch of time, Dan, obviously working both college hoops and NBA. I was privy to a lot of conversations and got to ask questions to people that do this for a living, that evaluate talent and make these decisions that teams have to live by. When you use a first round pick, those are serious pieces of valuable merchandise because you're trying to change the whole culture of your team. There were players that I look back on and it's just how it is. They stayed in college because they thought they were doing the right thing. They may have been a first round draft pick after their freshman or sophomore year was not a guarantee. And because they stayed their junior and senior year before they were getting paid, their flaws came out and they dropped in the draft because it actually gave scouts more time to see some of the faults that they had. So there's no right answer here. I've never ever said emphatically to any kid that has to make a decision to come out and be available for the draft. Hey, that's a bad call on your part. I don't know their financial situation. I don't know their family situation. I just have never been in that corner. That it does does occur where people have very strong opinions about it. You got to do what's best for you. I just think now there are at least some options for kids out there to. To make a more prudent decision.

[Dan Patrick]

By the way, I'm going to give you credit. If you're watching on Peacock or NBC Sports Network, you did give almost a presidential backdrop. I mean, great lighting here.

[Ian Eagle]

Yeah. Dan, I, I didn't want to tell you, but I am in a vestibule of a Vegas hotel. I flew there last night to do the interview and then I bored in 15 minutes. So, you know, we'll be fine. But I just wanted to make sure the. The backdrop look good. I. I'm a big earth tones guy.

[Commercial Voice 4]

I like it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Very, very much. Very, very, very earthy. Yes, you are.

[Ian Eagle]

Yeah, thanks.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. We're counting on you tonight.

[Ian Eagle]

Thanks. Thanks. I'm gonna go through my normal routine, game day and have some Nutter Butters and watch some Maury Povich.

[Dan Patrick]

You are the father.

[Ian Eagle]

You are not the father. Every time, it gets me. Every time, the intrigue, it's like March Madness. It's so unpredictable.

[Dan Patrick]

Save your voice. Save your voice. Okay. Thank you.

[Commercial Voice 4]

I see you, dad.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Iron eagle. They started 850 tonight. He doesn't know why or when they started it. I thought it used to be 920 for a while, but Tracy Wolfson, Bill Raftery, and Grant Hill. All right, take a break. Play the day.

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[Co-host or Panelist 1]

Dude, you're dropping bars right now. Handed out bags like it's trick or treat.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

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[Dan Patrick]

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I just crush a lot. Cooper Flag played really well last night, so watching LeBron, I wanted to see LeBron on Cooper flag and vice versa. They got switched on each other a couple of times. But Cooper Flag, he. That's his team. He does whatever he wants. He's 19. He won't be 20 till next December. Oh, boy. And here's another thing that'll come up, and I'm not a voter anymore with the NBA awards. Actually, I'm not sure why I'm not, but that's for another day. I should ask next time the commissioner is on, like, what. What did I do? I lose my NBA scholarship here. And I did vote when Grant Hill and Jason Kidd tied for Rookie of the Year and I actually changed my vote that morning. I was at NBA Entertainment and I. I probably brought about a tie for the Rookie of the Year. But Con Caniple has been great and his team has been really good. Cooper Flag's numbers are incredible. You normally don't base the Rookie of the Year off of what your team did. I don't think history has proven that Cooper Flag is the Rookie of the Year, in my opinion. He's doing some incredible things. Con Caniple has surprised us. Therefore, people are going, wow. Whereas Cooper Flag, I'm not surprised anymore. Con Canipple has had an unbelievable year, and they have been a competitive team this year. Dallas is not. But I would say Cooper Flag. Oh, by the way, I didn't even talk about Joker or Wemby. Oh, I didn't know who I was rooting for.

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I know, it snuck up on me. I'm like, whoa. And then it was great tv. Ray Allen's gonna join us and your phone calls on this Monday. Best and worst of the weekend.

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