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Dan Patrick
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Doug Gottlieb
Good morning to you, Dan Patrick show here on FOX sports radio, the iHeartradio app. Welcome in along my dear friend Dan Byer, Jason Stewart, the esteemed producer of the DG show and as well as today's Dan Patrick show, joining us as well. And I won't be the first, I won't be the last, but I can't wish you a happy new Year. New Year's Eve brings us a reaction to last night's Monday Night Football game, which was entertaining. And of course, we had a notable injury to a very notable figure for the defending NFC champion San Francisco 49ers. And it gives us football today or tonight as we have the first in the second round quarterfinals of the College Football Playoff. And I think it's actually the perfect game. So we got a lot to get to. But first, Dan, this is, this is always a good time in the morning when you wake up to go, hey, let's, let's look back at last night's Monday Night Football game. Gave us a little bit. Everything got a hook and ladder, which was not, you know, it was a great trick play for a touchdown in the first half. Exciting ending. And then you have a Brock Purdy injury. Like the, the biggest takeaway in your mind is what from that game?
Jason Stewart
Well, it's actually Brock Purdy's injury. But to your point of the Lions, not only are the Lions saying, yeah, we're going to play our guys in what is a meaningless game for us, what really matters is week 18. Not only are we going to do that, we're going to run a trick play that I don't know if they've used other times this season. I know they've done a bunch of other stuff, but let's throw that one on tape for Minnesota to worry about. They, they just don't let up. And that's, that's the crazy thing. They could have came out there with a vanilla playbook, had Jameer Gibbs maybe play a quarter, but now they went full throttle the rest of the way, almost lost the game. But the biggest takeaway is the Brock Purdy injury, depending on the severity of it, which we don't know right now because lost in all of this is that, well, we thought that the Lions should pack it in last night and not do anything. Maybe it should have been Brock Purdy. Maybe Brock Purdy should have just sat these final two games for San Francisco just because of his contract. Sit. And what could be ahead for him in that regard?
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah. So we don't know. And if you look online, right. But the fear obviously is in the throwing elbow, right. Which was. Or throwing potential throwing shoulder. And when you have a guy who they don't have to extend him at the end of this year, right? He has, he's under contract for another year. They don't have to. But when you think of what's out there, Kirk Cousins out there, right. And then you have Sam Darnold, could be, will be potentially out there. Cousins obviously played for Kyle Shanahan in Washington and Sam Darlin started a couple games last year replacing Brock Purdy due to injury like this. This completely changes in many ways the perception of what's going to happen this upcoming off season for Purdy. I mean, look, I don't think he bought all of those Toyota Tacoma TRD trucks, but probably not. Probably not. But if he did, like we're talking minimum 50 times, I think eight to 10 offensive linemen. I don't know if he can't buy the backup. So if it's 10, like you're going to drop 500 grand when you make less than a million. There's that thought like he is expecting a payday. He has been told there's a payday coming and now what do you do if you're John lynch and you're like, yeah, I can't do that.
Jason Stewart
Yeah. What even complicates things now even more is if this is significant. And again, we don't know image done today.
Doug Gottlieb
It's really, really important because I don't want anybody to think if you woke up you just turned it on, that we know it's a significant injury. We have no idea. Go ahead.
Jason Stewart
Yep. No, that's all right. But I think that we didn't question Brock Purdy's health considering he came back from the injury and didn't miss a regular season game the next year from it when he was hurt against the Philadelphia Eagles a couple of years ago. So the whole debate about Purdy has been is Purdy good enough? Is it Purdy or is it all the weapons around him? Ricky Pierce saw last night, had a great night. You know, stat wise the Niners couldn't get stops on defense, which is probably their biggest problem. Purdy did have some bad turnovers. There is the knock on him of are you trying to do too much? But ultimately, Doug, now all of a sudden injury prone or significant injury with the elbow comes into the equation, comes the negotiation. And I think that complicates things even more because if it is significant now it's your second Significant elbow injury early on in your career. And who knows how that goes down the line?
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah, we. We have no idea. You know, it could be a nerve in there which makes it feel like it's worse than it is, but you're right. Like, once you start to say, like, one injury, like, okay, it's just an injury when it's the second one now it's. Well, it's. It's chronic. And the crazy part was the. The first three drives. He had three drives in a row where he was nine of 931 yards. I saw. I mean, he was killing it. He really. Now, I know Detroit's defense wasn't great to begin with, and now being depleted by some injuries is even worse. But the. The interesting part is how Brady. How Brock Purdy had had a very average year because of all of the. In many ways, all of the injuries of the guys surrounding him. And. And look, I don't think he's nearly at the level of those elite quarterbacks, and I don't think he should be compensated as such. But again, I don't evaluate quarterbacks for a living. I'm not Kyle Shanahan. I'm not John Lynch. It's their team. They know it better than we do. And last night was one of the first nights all year, which you're looking like, whoa, Brock Purdy looking looks a little different, a little better tonight than he has previously. And then he goes and gets hurt. And it again, might be something minor, might be just a nerve inflammation, which makes your arm feel like it's on fire. And structurally it's fine. But you're. You're totally right, Dan. Anybody who has a brain sits there and goes like, wake up. Wait. He had a major surgery on it previously, and now he has to leave a game, a close game, because it feeling like it's on fire. Like, what else can go wrong? And, oh, yeah, it's not. Like it's not an arm he's not going to use. It was his left arm, like, all right, well, you know, it's going to be painful, but he doesn't need that one. It's the one elbow, you know, one of the two elbows that he actually needs.
Jason Stewart
Yeah, yeah, It's. It's completely messes up the equation. They didn't have a running game last night. They. They were willing to get into a shootout with the Detroit Lions. And we've looked at the 49ers over the last couple of years, whether it be Christian McCaffrey, whether it be Jordan Mason, when he was filling in earlier this season or Elijah Mitchell other times, and even before that, Raheem Mostert. It's been running, running, running. And last night that wasn't the case. They aired it out. Purdy had 377 yards. All those who are anti Purdy and don't pay Purdy will just point to the two interceptions because they didn't look good. Air mailing one in the middle of the field, you could always point to that stuff. But as he said, he started out nine and nine through for almost 400 yards in a game that had what, 10 touchdowns and no punts. I think, like, it's crazy. I mean, he put on a show last night, but then there's still questions. And now the injury stuff complicates things.
Doug Gottlieb
And then the big question is, what Dan Campbell playing all his starters. Here's, here's Campbell, head coach of the still first place Detroit Lions, when he was asked if he considered resting his starters for last night's game.
Jason Stewart
Yeah, it was on my mind, you know, I mean, I thought a lot about it. You know, I thought about it leading up to the game. I thought about it last night. I told the staff, but I, I ended up settling on the right thing to do is play these guys. And, and because we owed it to the team, you know, and, and it was just one of those, those positions we were in. It's just hard to say who you're going to sit. And, and it's not fair to ask guys to play that haven't been prepared.
Doug Gottlieb
To play, you know, those answers make no sense. By the way, I do understand the, hey, you can't, you can't sit everybody but the how could you not be? You had an extra day to prep. You knew this was a possibility, right? You knew it was a possibility. I don't understand that answer. Yeah, I guess what he's saying is, look, had Minnesota lost, but had Minnesota lost, they, you know, and they won and be in the same situation, still have to win the game on Sunday.
Jason Stewart
I also don't want to sound callous, but isn't that what backups are for? Like, I mean, like there's, don't we always.
Doug Gottlieb
Don't you always tell your guys, stay ready, stay ready, stay ready, stay ready. Ah, he's not really ready. It's not fair to him. Like, what is he talking about?
Jason Stewart
It's not.
Doug Gottlieb
Look, I like Dan Campbell. I can just tell you, this all gas and no brakes thing, it sounds really, really good. I can tell you from personal experience, it is an atrocious idea. I don't care what you do if you lose your start. Your starters are your starters for a reason. What are you doing? You did not have to play last night's game to win. And, like, I'm a crazy competitive person. My team is in a losing streak. We have had a gigantic injury on our team, and it's one of those, like, we're in that phase to where, like, if it can go wrong, it goes wrong. That's just kind of the way it goes, and you got to turn around and fix it. Okay. But everyone knows that your likelihood of success is made even greater in the playoffs when you have healthy players. Nothing matters unless you have healthy players. It's so hard to do with backups. And there's. What was the win in winning last night, especially now that you got a short week to prep to go play the Minnesota Vikings. How does that make any sense? And his need to go for it, right, like, it's gotten him beaten this year. Heck, last year, there was the decisions of when to go for it, not to go for it against the Niners in the NFC Championship Game, which in the first half, he didn't. In the second half, second half, he did, and it backfired on him. They gave away a lead. And I'm not saying he's not a tremendous coach, but that particular decision and his defense of the decision really didn't make any sense.
Jason Stewart
I'll tell you what also doesn't make sense. This is Jared Goff after the win last night. I think that's the only way we know, you know, it is just go and find a way to win. And, you know, the team we were playing, you know, in San Francisco, like, this is what ended our season last year. And there was a lot of. Of guys on this team that were there last year that, you know, wanted to get one back on them, even though, you know, in a lot of ways it was meaningless for them and meaningless for us. But they were prideful out there, too. They were trying to, you know, beat us as well. And it was a fun game.
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah. So I get it. It's like we just. We lost the Niners last year in the playoffs. We want to put the stake in the. They're already not in the playoffs. They're already not in the playoffs.
Jason Stewart
The part that I don't get is how in the world could that be payback? Like, last year was for a trip to the Super Bowl. This year meant nothing to either side. It's actually one of the Glaring things about Nick Sirianni. For all of the things that we will point out and the dumb stuff that the Eagles head coach does, there may have been nothing worse than taunting Chiefs fans after beating them in Kansas City. When the Chiefs beat them in the super bowl the prior year. Like, it wasn't. It wasn't payback. It wasn't revenge. I don't know how you could get revenge from losing a Super bowl, except if you played them in the super bowl the next year. This had even less impact than that Chiefs Eagles game, Doug. It meant nothing to neither. To both sides. And to sit there and say, like, they're prideful, like, that's garbage. Nobody last night thought, yeah, revenge. Not at all.
Doug Gottlieb
There wasn't even. There wasn't a single Lions fan. And you and I work with Chris Perfett, who's a Lions fan. Not a single Lions fan on the planet. On the planet. Who's like, hey, we're even for last year. Huh? You like that, buddy? You like that? Like, not one. No. Nobody. Nobody thinks that. And, you know, I love the idea of trying to win every day, trying to win every game that. We're competitive people. You can. The backups can compete as well. Because you know what? You're playing for something more important than a Monday Night Football game in Week 17 of an NFL season. You're playing for a Super Bowl. To win a Super bowl with the Detroit Lions. That's the only thing that matters is the super bowl with the Detroit Lions. And. And. And nothing that was done last night. It was a fun game. Don't get me wrong. Like, we've had a lot of, like, drudgery here. End of the season with some of these games, guys, Olympia, it's a fun game. 40, 34 point scored, trick plays. Awesome. But, I mean, for a team that's already been depleted, already lost, you know, lost a running back, lost a middle linebacker, lost some ancillary pieces. Like, what are you doing? What. What are you possibly doing? Hey, Payback. Some of these guys want to pay back. We want to pay back. It's not payback. Not payback. J Stew, you. You. You want to propose a bit? Is that what you want to do?
Andrew Brandt
Happy New Year's Eve, gentlemen.
Jason Stewart
New Year's Eve to you.
Andrew Brandt
I put together a little.
Doug Gottlieb
Isn't it Happy New Year's Eve Day?
Andrew Brandt
Sure. Yeah.
Doug Gottlieb
I'm just saying it's a weird sentence, but New Year's Eve, I mean, I guess. I guess it can be used. It depends on the. The use of the Word. Eve. Eve can be day before, but it's really night before, is it not?
Andrew Brandt
Yeah, no, I'll definitely. I think you're right on that one.
Doug Gottlieb
Okay.
Andrew Brandt
I put together a gift for listeners as we look back on 2024. I wanted to play my personal favorite sound bites from the year and by all means, Doug Dan. Listeners, if you have any contribution, let us know. But I want to play at the end of each segment today just something that was memorable, something that stuck out from 2024 in sports. And I want to start with somebody that Doug actually either attended high school with or went to the same high school as Tustin High School.
Doug Gottlieb
I went to Sam High School to attend high school with. He was a freshman. I was a senior.
Andrew Brandt
Deshawn Foster gets a job at ucla and he shows up at Big ten media days, and he just wows the world with charisma.
Jason Stewart
UCLA in the Big Ten. We're a school that's won, what, 123 championships? So this fits us being right in this conference football wise, which is exciting. You know, I'm sure you guys don't know too much about ucla, but our football program. But we're in la. It's us and usc. We.
Doug Gottlieb
It's bad. The crazy part was, for people who don't know, we actually had desean on the Doug Gottlieb show like a half hour after that happened. And he was like, yeah, well, what happened was I didn't know if I was supposed to make a statement or answer the question. He was great about it, but, yeah, that was. That. That wasn't great.
Andrew Brandt
Well, they turned it into. I want to say he turned it into a marketing thing.
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah.
Andrew Brandt
Like made T shirts. We're in L. A. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I had Vito put this together so I can't not play it. What I was supposed to do right before we played the. Deshaun Foster.
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah.
Andrew Brandt
Is this is the intro for the. For the bit today.
Doug Gottlieb
Hold up now.
Dan Patrick
Wait a minute. They said what?
Andrew Brandt
They said what? So you'll be hearing more sound throughout the show, listeners. Hope you enjoy it.
Doug Gottlieb
Well, that's a really good. Vito did a really good job. Job. What? What, did you choke? Did you get too excited about playing the sound? What happened?
Andrew Brandt
Oh, you know, I'm. I'm not a host by trade.
Doug Gottlieb
No, you are.
Dan Patrick
You.
Doug Gottlieb
You are the FM morning. Morning radio host. We, We've. We've. We've established that. That you love to do the. Well, not let. Don't call it a throwback because you really Want to do what was hot on the Billboard top charts in 2015. Right? That's. We, we establish that. So don't, don't, don't duck and dodge that thing. You got too excited because the, the clip is way too funny. Everybody does it. That clip is too funny. Can you, can I hear it one more time? I gotta hear that again. We're. We're in LA with usc. Hold up now.
Dan Patrick
Wait a minute. They said what?
Doug Gottlieb
Oh, so good, so good.
Jason Stewart
We're a school that's won, what, 123 championships. So this fits us being right in this conference. Football wise, we're just excited. You know, I'm sure you guys don't know too much about ucla, but our football program. But we're in la. It's us and usc. We.
Doug Gottlieb
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Doug Gottlieb
Be Good morning to you. Happy New Year to you. Dan Patrick Show, FOX Sports Radio. I'm Doug Gottlieb. Dan Beyer alongside. So some interesting going on last night in the National Football League with the Detroit Lions surviving the San Francisco 49ers Monday Night Football. Brock Purdy, though it went down with some form of of elbow injury. We think it's an elbow injury. We don't really, really know. We don't know the severity of it or anything of it. Only reports of that his arm was on fire and leading many to speculate. More nerve than anything else. But what that means we simply don't know a guy who would know how this could affect the potential for a contract negotiation this upcoming off season. Joins us now. His name is Andrew Brandt. He is, he has the, he's the host of the business Sports Podcast under DraftKings Network. He's also the author of the Sunday 7 newsletter, which you can sign up for on his social media pages, IG and Twitter as well. And he joins us now on the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Andrew, before we get to the Niners, the Lions played their starters played to win. And you've been in with the packers organization, with the Eagles organization. What are your thoughts on the Lions logic behind playing their guys last night in a game that did nothing for them in terms of playoffs eating?
Malcolm Gladwell
Yeah, good morning, Doug. Always good to be with you. I am not, I repeat, not a believer in playing starters and stars in games like this. And I think you'll see most of the teams agree with that on Sunday this weekend. But Dan Campbell's got his own feelings and that was important to him, maybe a little bit different going into a big game next week rather than a rest for the playoffs. So I'll give him that. Listen, my feeling, Doug, is risk, reward. It always comes down to risk, reward. What's the risk? And the risk is phenomenal. The risk is getting one of your stars, God forbid, your quarterback hurt in a meaningless game for the playoffs. What's the reward? I don't get it. Winning a game that doesn't matter, I guess. But to me that's not comparable. So I am a total believer in I change the Herm Edwards line. You don't play to win the end of regular season game.
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah.
Malcolm Gladwell
You play to win the playoff game. So it's pretty clear to me.
Doug Gottlieb
With Dan Bar. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is the Dan Show, Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so Doug, quick one on that.
Jason Stewart
Sorry we had troubles with my mic here, but just on the on the line sort of thing. Andrew, when you were an executive with the packers, what happens with bonuses and stuff like that? Like, like, you know, how is that reviewed during the week, especially if you are going to be sitting guys and having that discussion. How does that come about and how do you deal with that as a front office?
Malcolm Gladwell
Yeah, Dan, that's a great question and that is a problem. And when I was with the packers, we fortunately were in a lot of those games where the 16th game at that time, 17th game now didn't really matter. So we did set stars and starters. But I also instituted something contractually with the packers that a lot of teams use now called per game roster Bonuses. So it's a way of getting the player money. But he has to be healthy. That's really all he has to be to be a part of the 47 man active roster. And yes, this was a problem. Players came up to me after these games. Even one player during a championship, NFC championship game came up to me and said, am I going to get those bonuses for the 16th game? And I had to adjust some contracts in the year, the next year, because I didn't foresee that problem. And absolutely not. Did I tell the coaches about it. The coaches and the cap contract guys should not be talking about these things. And I include that with incentive bonuses. Whether a guy is close to a thousand yards or close to 50 catches or close to eight sacks, I created a wall. I did not want any coaches knowing about that because then you could really face the agent and player and saying absolutely not. There was no communication about that and be honest about it. So that's a great question. That's how I handled it.
Doug Gottlieb
Okay. And speaking of contract negotiations, what do you think last night's injury, again, we have no idea the severity does to the contract negotiations with Brock Purdy.
Malcolm Gladwell
Well, we're going to assume that he's going to be ready to play in 2025. I mean this sounds like kind of the injury he had in the championship game in 2023. So we're going to assume this is not going to affect playing in 25. Here's the thing, he is going to get a big contract. The question to me is how big? Because the market, as you and I have talked about many times, has gone to the 50s, 55. And then of course the outlier with Prescott at 60, I just don't see him getting there. Now everyone could say, well, why not? Because he's, he's among those guys and his record. But I just don't see it. And what the leverage the 49ers have is that that fourth year, in other words, he's done three years of a seventh round contract, which is peanuts. He's still got a year left on that. Now, are the 49ers going to make him play for a million dollars in his fourth year? No. But are they going to offer him $55 million? No. So I guess I'm looking at it as Purdy's got to make a decision, do I play for a million dollars or do I play for a contract averaging pick a number, $30 million, $35 million, $40 million. And am I really going to push for $50 million? So that's the leverage the 49ers have. It's, you got a year left at a million dollars, so you turn down our offer. That's what you're looking at.
Jason Stewart
Can they use the elbow injury even if they think everything's going to be fine? Can they use it against him like you would? Maybe an arbitration in Major League Baseball?
Malcolm Gladwell
It's tough, you know, obviously tough to negotiate that way and talk about injuries, but it will be a factor if we're looking at it affecting next season. If this comes back as nerve damage that can be lingering or whatever the word is into next season. Yes, absolutely. It's like someone coming off a knee injury. You're not going to do a huge contract based on that.
Doug Gottlieb
What do you think Sam Donald's market looks like?
Malcolm Gladwell
Different than Purdy because of what I just said. He's a free agent. He's a free agent. So there's no extra year that they can negotiate off like the 49ers can. So now we're talking a different market and just forget about numbers. I think Darnold will make more than Purdy because of contract status. So, yeah, the Vikings will try to sign them, but they won't be the only ones. So now you got leverage. Now you got teams. Now you got something that is so rare in the NFL. Productive quarterbacks on the market. When does that happen? Never. So I think his market is strong, extremely strong. And this idea of trading JJ McCarthy, that's. You don't trade a number one pick that hasn't played. That won't happen. But if the Vikings retain him, it's. Then it's the discussion, the discussion we had in Green Bay for every. You know, for Rodgers and for Love, like, what's the time if you're JJ McCarthy's agent, are you. Are you going to accept two years guaranteed for Darnold? You don't have anything to say about it, but are you going to accept three years guaranteed for Darnold? That's a long time. That would be four years of waiting. So we'll see what happens. They've got to deal with a lot in Minnesota once they get past the playoffs.
Jason Stewart
Kind of on the flip side of things. I know it's only two years in, but there's not a lot of good coming from Indianapolis with someone like Anthony Richardson. But again, when you're drafting a player like that, you and the limited experience he had coming into the NFL, what sort of window do you give a quarterback like that if you're Indianapolis, especially if Your backup plan right now is an aging Joe Flacco who's on the couch for most of last season. What do you do if you're the Colts and you're young quarterback?
Malcolm Gladwell
Well, you don't cut them, you don't trade them, but you do have a better backup plan than what you just talked about on the couch. You have a serious backup plan. You have a serious player that can come in there and I don't know who that is. That's, that's a long way off. But you're not talking about a stopgap anymore in a place like Indianapolis. You're not talking about a Flacco type. You're talking about a real option. And you're not giving up on Richardson. Of course. You know, it's like what I heard about Bryce Young in early part of this year. No, you don't give up on number one picks this early, but you better have an option. You know, it's not like in Cleveland as well and that's a whole nother situation. But they're not going into Cleveland next year again with these sort of retread backups anymore. They're going with a real option. So it's going to be interesting with those teams.
Doug Gottlieb
He's the one and only Andrew Brandt, of course. He's a former executive with the packers, the host of the Business sports podcast and the DraftKings Network, and the author of the Sunday 7 newsletter that you can sign up for on his social media pages. Andrew, happy New Year to you. Thanks so much for joining us.
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Thanks guys. Happy New Year.
Doug Gottlieb
Doug Gottlieb. Dan Beyer in for Dan Dennett. J. Stu, I think you had another say.
Andrew Brandt
What for us, I just want to continue our gifts for the listeners throughout the show. Today I want to play sound from the year in sports in 2024 and it's a bit we like to call this.
Doug Gottlieb
Hold up now, wait a minute.
Dan Patrick
They said what?
Andrew Brandt
I think that's a pretty good intro. In fact, I like it a lot. We might have to institute it on our daily show, the Doug Gottlieb Show. So the second bit of sound I want to say, and I want to speak for Dan here, but I think it's his favorite from the year. Dan was the one who was watching the off season Hard Knocks up close. And of course this exchange with Joel Shane and John Mara about Saquon Barkley really stood out. Right?
Doug Gottlieb
What's the latest?
Malcolm Gladwell
Just on the Saquon thing, I just got a text that Chicago is driving the price up And Philly's out.
Jason Stewart
I don't know if that's true or not.
Malcolm Gladwell
Which.
Doug Gottlieb
I don't know if I'll make a couple calls. I don't even know if that's gonna happen.
Malcolm Gladwell
But I'm gonna have a tough time.
Doug Gottlieb
Sleeping if Saquon goes to Phil Milky, I'll tell you that.
Jason Stewart
As I've told you, just being honest.
Malcolm Gladwell
I haven't been around enough players only.
Doug Gottlieb
But he's the most popular player we have by far.
Jason Stewart
So good.
Doug Gottlieb
So here's. I just again, I mean John Morrow was telling him right there, just get this thing done. Right? I mean everyone heard it at the time, just get this thing done. Like, stop. You can explain all you want about years and whatever, just get this thing done. And remember Saquon Barkley, who's got a chance to set the all time single season rushing mark? He only left for a million dollars more. The whole contract's a million dollars more. Which signifies two things. One, you know, the Giants weren't willing to go, hey, whatever you do, we'll offer you more money. And then two, he was, it was, it became petty at the end. It became, it became an ego thing.
Jason Stewart
It's interesting because I, I don't, it's not the exact opposite, but I look at it from a different angle and, and I, I'm glad we played that sound because it's not the pile on Joe Shane. It's actually to applaud Joe Shane and the entire Giants organization for, for doing this. And I don't know if the NFL forced him to do it, but I don't know if a team will ever do it again. I hope they do. I hope we get access like that because it actually shows what goes on in these scenarios. I would have loved to have heard the conversations of the Atlanta Falcons. And now we look at the quarterback situation and we see Michael Penix has taken over. But imagine what those conversations would have been. Joe Shane may have been wrong, but I just feel that his, his handicap was wrong. Like in terms of Saquon Barkley. And we've discussed this and many others have discussed it as well. Saquon Barkley was not going to do what he did in Philadelphia, in New York this year. That was not going to happen. And so you have these like sequence of events where then the Giants are like, let's go and get you a weapon, Daniel Jones. They get them a leak, neighbors that actually hits. They wanted to go cheap in the running back market. Turns out Tyrone Tracy was pretty good for them. They had a bunch of injuries on the offensive line that they tried to fortify as part of the hard knocks that we found out there were a bunch of pieces they could get. They lost their left tackle Andrew Thomas for the season. So it just didn't work out for the Giants and it very likely could cost them all their jobs. Brian Dabel, Joe Shane, the whole deal and what was a make or break year. But sometimes those things happen and I'm so grateful that we got to look at it. So I don't want to make it seem like we're, we're piling on Joe Shane because it gave us insight into what a general manager actually has to decide.
Doug Gottlieb
And, and to, and to add on to that is, let's also be honest, it looks really bad right now. There's just no, you know, I mean the ra. The Raiders have a running back who's, you know, Tom Telesco gets that job late and the Raiders had already kind of bid a due to a running back who's having a heck of a year in Green Bay. The packers had Aaron Jones who's having a heck of a year in Minnesota, and of course Saquon Bark. And this was all the talk of last year leading up to the season. But remember, the fight from these general managers perspective and from the league's perspective was not over one year. It was all of these guys wanted essentially three years guaranteed. And the likelihood that they're anywhere near as productive in year two and year three is minimal. It just is. That was the real, that's the real gamble here. There was never, and this is what I hate about headlines and some reporting in our business, which is that you either want or don't want somebody. The Giants wanted Saquon Barkley. They just never wanted to give him a three year guarantee deal just didn't because he's been injured a lot, you know, so I just, I let's, let's see how it ultimately plays out. But right now, yes, it, it looks like words that end up causing you to get fired because of this one decision. I'm Doug Gottlieb's Dan Beyer in for Dan and Dan ed's today. Come up next on Dan Patrick Show. Do you remember who won all of the championships and all of the major awards this year? We'll remind you next.
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Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio with Dan Beyer. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is Dan Patrick Show, FOX Sports Radio. J. Stu is our esteemed producer. So, J Stu, is this one of those, like, you want to be the annoying trivia guy or do we want Bayer to do the game? How do you, how do you want to do it to where it's like quizzing us on what? Every championship and every award, like just without looking it up, without thinking. That's the idea.
Andrew Brandt
Dan is the ultimate game maker. He makes the games for us on the Doug Gottlieb show every day. He came up with all of this, and I'm gonna leave it to him to host it.
Doug Gottlieb
All right, let's get to a game.
Jason Stewart
Yeah, Doug, we don't even need any game time imaging. I just need some music. Because I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen. We're gonna look back over these last 366 days, right? Because we had the leap year. Right, we had the leap year this past year. Don't forget about that. A lot has happened. Some you remember and some you forget.
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah.
Jason Stewart
And that's what we are here for. I have A list of 33 events or awards that occurred, and we just have to find the winners of each.
Doug Gottlieb
Okay. I'm not. I have no. Just so you guys understand, I'm in my office here at Green Bay. I have three computers up, but none of them are Googling or searching or whatever. None of them. Okay, so I'm just going to go off the top of my head. No, no looking at. Will you ask them? I'll try and get them. Yeah.
Jason Stewart
And at some point, we will ask the. The listener, those on social media if they would like to get in on the action as well. But Here are the 33 events that I want to know who won or who claimed the award for national in 2024. So if the super bowl was played in February, if the national championship game was played in January, I want to know who won that game. So the NFL, College Football, NBA, wnba, Men's College Basketball, Final Four, Women's Final four, Major League Baseball, College Baseball, World Series, College World Series of Softball. NCAA Volleyball champion, Stanley cup champion. Who won the Masters PGA Championship, US Open. In the Open Championship. How about the winner of the MLS Premier League or the UEFA Champions League? Let's go to tennis. Australia Open, French Open, Wimbledon, US Open. How about the most medals won by a gold medals won by a country at the Paris Olympic Games? NFL mvp, NBA mvp, WNBA mvp, almvp, nlm, vp, Heisman Trophy. Who won the NASCAR Cup Series this past year? Who won Daytona 500? Who won F1 and who won the Indy 500? I want to know all those answers.
Doug Gottlieb
Wow.
Jason Stewart
Let's go.
Doug Gottlieb
Okay. Which one you want first?
Jason Stewart
Any of them. Just take them.
Doug Gottlieb
Oh, yeah. No, just. Just go. Go back to the order and I'm gonna. I'll shout them out. Because they all come to my mind.
Jason Stewart
National Football League, your Super bowl champions. Kansas City Chiefs. They did. They beat the 49ers in Super Bowl 59 in overtime. Doug. College football's national champion. And they ended up routing TCU to the victor. All right, there's enough of that Mark Jason, if you want to try to chime in as well.
Andrew Brandt
I got dibs. I got dibs on the NBA champ. I think it was the Celtics. No.
Jason Stewart
Yes, the Boston Celtics. They beat the Dallas Mavericks in five games. So the top three are off the board. Next.
Andrew Brandt
Wnba, lowest hanging of fruit right there.
Doug Gottlieb
New York Liberty won it, didn't they?
Jason Stewart
Is that an answer or is that a guess?
Doug Gottlieb
I'm going to go New York Liberty.
Jason Stewart
It was the New York Liberty. Yes. Congratulations. They topped the Minnesota Links in five games. And remember when we thought the Lynx coach was mad about Caitlin Clark, then she was mad that the WNBA championship said Cheryl Reeve. Was that the. Yeah, there was another bit of sound that maybe we did. We maybe missed out on.
Doug Gottlieb
Can't remember.
Jason Stewart
What about the men's basketball Final Four?
Doug Gottlieb
Who won the national championship last year?
Andrew Brandt
No, the Final Four teams.
Doug Gottlieb
Yukon. Oh, you want the Final Four teams?
Jason Stewart
Yes.
Doug Gottlieb
Purdue. Yukon. Wow. Alabama. Alabama. I know.
Jason Stewart
Jay Studios. I know. Jstu knows.
Doug Gottlieb
You know? J. Stu knows.
Jason Stewart
Yes.
Andrew Brandt
NC State.
Jason Stewart
That is correct.
Doug Gottlieb
Good call. Yeah.
Jason Stewart
Good work, guys. Yes. J. Stu. Why do you know?
Andrew Brandt
Because I turned $10 into like $3,000 in my Survivor pool. Thank you, Dan Byer, for introducing me.
Jason Stewart
All right. Yeah. UConn cut down the nets. What about the women's Final Four in college basketball?
Doug Gottlieb
Iowa, South Carolina.
Andrew Brandt
Did LSU make it?
Doug Gottlieb
No, that was the Elite Eight. They lost in Elite Eight, I think.
Jason Stewart
Yes, that is correct. To Caitlin Clark in Iowa.
Andrew Brandt
Was Yukon in it?
Doug Gottlieb
Carolina. Yes, they were. UConn was in it and I don't know who the other team was.
Jason Stewart
Yeah, that's going to be part of the dilemma. We're going to have to. We're going to need that answer. We're going to need that answer at some point. But, yeah, remember Iowa, UConn, Stanford and the fouls that were called. And the moving screen in that national semifinal game. A Major League baseball. Low hanging fruit there.
Doug Gottlieb
Lawyers.
Andrew Brandt
I got that one. Yeah.
Doug Gottlieb
Yep.
Jason Stewart
The Dodgers beating the Yankees in five games.
Andrew Brandt
College Baseball World Series starts to get hard right now.
Doug Gottlieb
I want to say somebody has. Oh, Tennessee.
Jason Stewart
That is correct, Doug. Yes.
Andrew Brandt
Good poll.
Jason Stewart
They beat Texas A and M in three games.
Doug Gottlieb
SEC has all the money they got all the baseball dudes and the Tennessee coaches. He was Talking it and walking it.
Jason Stewart
They also, I think, won, like the shot contest in Omaha at that bar where you have the most shots. What about the college softball World Series?
Doug Gottlieb
Oklahoma?
Jason Stewart
That is correct. We swept Florida State 20 in that best of three series. I feel like we could say that every year with the Sooners, Patagas.
Doug Gottlieb
Yes.
Jason Stewart
All right. NCAA volleyball champions.
Doug Gottlieb
There's really only two possible answers here. I'm gonna go with Nebraska.
Jason Stewart
Oh, that is. No, that is not the case. This is Penn State.
Doug Gottlieb
No, Penn State. Right.
Jason Stewart
Penn State. It was. Yes, it was.
Doug Gottlieb
Yeah. Those are the only two answers, by the way.
Jason Stewart
Wisconsin could have been one of those.
Andrew Brandt
A great story. The head coach is battling cancer.
Doug Gottlieb
Oh, yeah, that's right. She's battling cancer. Yes, I forgot. That just happened.
Jason Stewart
With the final four at all, number one seeds, Louisville.
Doug Gottlieb
We'll get more of this upcoming next hour as well as what should the Eagles do at running back this weekend? We'll talk about that next. The Dan Patrick Show, Fox sports radio.
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1: Gottlieb and Beyer Guest Hosting
Release Date: December 31, 2024
Hosts: Doug Gottlieb, Dan Beyer
Guests: Andrew Brandt (Host of the Business Sports Podcast, Author of Sunday 7 Newsletter)
The episode kicked off with a detailed analysis of last night's electrifying Monday Night Football game between the Detroit Lions and the San Francisco 49ers. Hosts Doug Gottlieb and Dan Beyer, alongside guest Andrew Brandt, delved into the game's pivotal moments and standout performances.
Exciting Gameplay: The game featured high-stakes moments, including trick plays like the hook and ladder touchdown in the first half, culminating in an intense overtime that forced the playoff implications to the line. Jason Stewart remarked at [03:51], “the biggest takeaway is the Brock Purdy injury, depending on the severity of it, which we don't know right now.”
Quarterback Performance: Brock Purdy’s outstanding performance was a focal point. Despite accumulating impressive statistics, his gameplay was marred by turnovers, leading to speculation about whether he was pushing too hard. Stewart questioned, “Is Purdy good enough? Is it Purdy or is it all the weapons around him?” ([09:12]).
A significant portion of the discussion centered around Brock Purdy’s injury during the game and its potential impact on his career and contract negotiations.
Injury Concerns: The injury, described metaphorically as his arm being “on fire” at [06:19], raised alarms about its severity and long-term effects on Purdy’s throwing capabilities. Stewart highlighted the uncertainty, stating, “We don’t know the severity does to the contract negotiations with Brock Purdy.”
Contract Negotiations: Guest Andrew Brandt provided insights into how this injury could influence Purdy’s market value. He explained, “[...] he is going to get a big contract. The question to me is how big? Because the market... has gone to the 50s, 55.” ([31:18]).
Market Comparison: The conversation compared Purdy’s situation with other quarterbacks like Kirk Cousins and Sam Darnold, emphasizing the increased competition and the potential for teams to leverage his injury status in negotiations.
The hosts critiqued Detroit Lions' head coach Dan Campbell's decision to play his starters in what was considered a "meaningless" game, raising questions about the necessity and wisdom of such choices.
Playing Starters: Doug Gottlieb expressed bewilderment at Campbell’s strategy, saying, “You did not have to play last night's game to win” ([10:10]). This decision is scrutinized for potentially risking player injuries without substantial playoff benefits.
Team Preparedness: Jason Stewart challenged the fairness of demanding that backup players be ready on short notice, questioning the rationale behind not resting starters when the game had minimal playoff impact.
Broader Implications: This segment underscored the delicate balance coaches must maintain between team morale, player readiness, and strategic game planning, especially in the latter stages of the season.
Expanding beyond the immediate game, the discussion explored the wider implications of Purdy’s injury and Lions’ strategies on the NFL’s quarterback market and team management.
Quarterback Market Dynamics: Andrew Brandt emphasized the rarity of having multiple productive quarterbacks available, stating, “teams and something that is so rare in the NFL” ([35:01]). This scarcity heightens the stakes for contract negotiations and team acquisitions.
Free Agency and Backup Plans: The conversation touched on the importance of having reliable backup quarterbacks, especially for teams like the Indianapolis Colts who are navigating their young quarterback Anthony Richardson’s development amidst an aging backup like Joe Flacco.
Contract Strategies: Malcolm Gladwell discussed contract structures, such as per-game roster bonuses, to mitigate risks associated with player injuries, sharing his experiences from his executive tenure with the Green Bay Packers.
Towards the latter part of the hour, the show transitioned into an interactive segment where hosts reviewed notable sports achievements from 2024. This included champions across various leagues such as the NBA, WNBA, NCAA tournaments, and more.
Interactive Quiz: Jason Stewart introduced a quiz segment, challenging the hosts and listeners to recall major sports events and their winners. This engaging portion fostered a lively and competitive atmosphere among the hosts.
Listener Engagement: The segment was designed to involve listeners through social media, encouraging them to participate and test their knowledge of the year's sports highlights.
The episode concluded with a preview of upcoming discussions, including strategies for the Philadelphia Eagles at the running back position and reflections on significant sports moments of the year.
Future Topics Preview: Doug Gottlieb hinted at exploring the implications of quarterback injuries on team strategies and contract negotiations in future episodes, maintaining the show's focus on in-depth sports analysis.
Year-End Reflections: Hosts expressed gratitude for the year's memorable sports moments and looked forward to recapping more highlights in upcoming shows.
Notable Quotes:
This episode of The Dan Patrick Show offers a comprehensive analysis of a pivotal NFL game, delving into player injuries, coaching decisions, and their broader implications on the sport. The hosts provide insightful commentary, backed by expert guest Andrew Brandt, making it a valuable listen for sports enthusiasts seeking in-depth discussions.