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Doug Gottlieb
The Thanksgiving hangover is absolutely real on this Black Friday. Still talking about what happened between the Bears and Lions. And Doug, this is the great thing about what happened yesterday are these Thanksgiving Day games on tv, on Fox, on cbs are the highest rated games throughout the regular season.
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Chris Perfett
Right.
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Doug Gottlieb
Year after year after year. So on full display was the incompetency of the Chicago Bears in a game that is probably going to be first or second of the highest rated games that we'll see in the regular season.
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Chris Perfett
Yep, pretty much. I've never seen anything like that. And maybe and Bears fans are sitting there going like, welcome to my world, but I've never seen anything like that. Like you had a timeout and you could have dirted the ball. There's a million things you could have done and you barely get a playoff and don't even get an opportunity to second play. Like it was, it was so indescribably awful to watch. I had sympathy for Bears fans.
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Doug Gottlieb
You know where I compared it to like immediately in the aftermath is because you said you haven't seen anything like that. It reminded me of the Sopranos ending when people are like, wait, that's it? It's just over, it's done.
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Chris Perfett
Yeah.
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Doug Gottlieb
And because it was so sudden, you felt like the Bears had all this time a little bit like, I think Super Bowl 56 at the end where you thought the Bengals were driving. They get to midfield and, and they have what, a second and one. And then they get a couple of stops and then Aaron Donald wreaks havoc and oh, that's the game that's over. The Rams have won the Super Bowl. That's what yesterday felt like for some reason.
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Chris Perfett
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I agree with you. And it felt like we're missing something. But these. I felt like all of America is streaming at the tv.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yes. Well, yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
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Chris Perfett
Here's a setup. So I took to my country club, Oneida Country Club, for Thanksgiving dinner and we have one. Ryan Wade is a six year senior. He's from Michigan. He's from Ann Arbor, Michigan. And so he's got, he's always rocking his Lions jersey. Matter of fact, when the Lions came in and beat the packers, it's great trash talk. And he, he, you know, they all owned it with him in the locker room. But we're watching as kind of dinner is sort of wrapping up and collectively, everyone is first. The ups and downs of watching Caleb Williams play are really, I mean, again, it's like, well, he's just a rookie, but there are some pleasure. Like, God, he's awful. Then you're like, well, you know, he's not bad. Then all of a sudden they start kind of moving the football. They score a touchdown, they're down three points. The Lions were kind of asleep at the wheel. The Lions were almost, it was almost as if, hey, why don't you guys come and beat us? Because we're not really that into this thing. And then you drive down the field and it's a pretty obvious situation to call a timeout, clock a ball, whatever. And I just, again, I could be wrong because I was simply sitting in the bar area with 30 or so other guys. But everyone I know is screaming at the TV like, what are you doing? Call a timeout. Dirt to football. What are you. It's. And, and there's only one Lions fan and no one is a Bears fan. Just watching that debacle and then the comments afterward from E. Refleuce, like, what his explanation.
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Doug Gottlieb
It's tough to understand that we're there.
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Patrick Eberflus
At second and 20, you know, take the sack right there, you know, so we're at 36 seconds right there. And our hope was, because it was third going into fourth, that we would rack, re rack that play at 18 seconds, throw it in, bounce, get into the field goal range and then call the timeout. And that's where it was. And that was our decision making process on that. Again, we were outside the field goal range, you know, so we needed to get a few more yards in there as close as we can get. And then we're going to call timeout. And that's why we held that last time out at the end of the game. I like what we did there. Again, once it's under seven, you know, you're going to, you're going to call, you know, time out there or actually under 12, and then really you don't have an option, you know, because it's third to fourth. You got to throw it into the end zone then. So to me, it's, I think we handled it the right way, but I do believe that just re rack the play, get it in, bounce and call time out. And that's why we held it and didn't work out the way we wanted it to.
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Chris Perfett
I mean, first thing is, and this is an obvious one, right, Everyone I know was screaming, you can't take a sack there. So that is on Caleb Williams. Can't take a sack. Can't take a. Can't. Ah, you can't take a sack there. Right. And then the. Well, and what he was saying is they obviously have their rules. Under 12 call a timeout. He didn't do it. You know, under seven, you got to throw it, you know, throw it for the end zone. I understand all of that, but just the. Well, what about that time gap between when he, when the last play ended and when you got to under 12? Under 7.
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Doug Gottlieb
Here's what's. There's so many layers to this. It's amazing because Doug, even on this drive a couple of plays earlier, they actually had two timeouts, but they took one in a dead ball situation because the play clock was running down. So they threw an incomplete pass and they had a second down and 10 and they ended up calling a timeout because Eberflus didn't think that Caleb Williams was going to get the snap off. Williams actually, I think was planning on getting the snap off and knew the play clock was running down and was going to just take advantage of the pause on the double zero where you can still snap it. And he seemed frustrated that he was unable to get the playoff and that the Bears called time out. So they wasted one of their time outs just on a dead ball scenario inside the 30 yard line. They have 46 seconds left. They had two timeouts. They're at the Lions 25 yard line. @ that point you're thinking, to heck with the field goal, we can win this thing.
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Chris Perfett
Yes.
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Doug Gottlieb
Let's put it into the end zone.
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Chris Perfett
Yes.
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Doug Gottlieb
Not how are we going to end up out of field goal range and have time run out on us?
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Chris Perfett
Yes.
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Doug Gottlieb
The furthest thing from anyone's mind.
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Chris Perfett
And look, Eber Fluss is not an offensive guy, but it's pretty obvious if you listen to what he's saying. They do have rules and a process and, you know, it couldn't be more obvious that those two are not on the same page. I would say that Caleb James strikes me and this is a little bit of inside knowledge of his time at SC as a guy who's really smart. But this is the issue with really smart young players. They think they know everything. Right? Most of us, when we're in our early 20s, especially when people tell us we're smart, we think we know everything. And you know, now it's on full display and end of the day that looks like a poorly coached football team. There's just no other way you can.
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Doug Gottlieb
Say it I think from top to bottom, one of the biggest problems that I had was they don't have a kicker on their team that can kick a 58 yard field goal indoors. Eber flu says that they needed more yards because of Caleb Williams taking that sack to kick a field goal. The longest field goal in NFL history is what, 66 yards from Justin Tucker kicked where Ford Field, home of the Detroit Lions and the Bears where I think collateral damage plays in. I think what happened the last couple of weeks ago against the packers sure ends up playing into their mind and settling for that field goal at that time. But man. And it was the only tricky thing about it was he was third down and third and long.
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Chris Perfett
Yes. Think about this year Bears fan. Okay. Should have won the packers game. Probably should have won the Vikings game. Had the commanders game won. Doesn't mean you would have won last night or yesterday afternoon. But that thing at least should have gone overtime. And you're sitting here and again like what's the expression? There's a football expression. More games are lost than one. I have a ton of respect for what Dan Campbell and the Lions have done overall yesterday. They didn't win that game. The Bears lost that game. There's just no other way. And the same thing with the Commanders game. They didn't win that. The Canners didn't win that game. The Bears lost that game. And. And as a. As a Charger fan I mean here's J Stew are like I don't even have PTSD for that because as poorly coached. The problem with the Chargers especially under Brandon Staley were guys were just wide open, right. Like it was the defensive guy and they just leave dudes wide open. But the. The one comp. Hey the one comp is was will always be that the Chargers just found ways to lose games they should rightfully win. And that's where the Bears are. And then there's got to be the added part to it like Glenn if we want to get the brass tacks could have gotten rid of Eber Fluss last year chose not to Harbaugh and again I don't know if he chooses the Bears when he could have chosen his own quarterback. But Harbaugh leaves Michigan, he goes to the Chargers and they're immediately a playoff team. You stick with Eberflus and this season has been a debacle. Here's. Here's Caleb Williams after the game talking about some of the communication issues.
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Caleb Williams
I don't have a microphone to speak to coach or anything like that. So there wasn't like any huge communication in that situation. You get a call with that time. You gotta, you know, you gotta try and get the guys back, get everybody lined up. So you go run a play and you know, we got lined up, got the play. And then, you know, I made an adjustment because I saw the clock running down, knowing that if we complete a ball inbounds or anything like that, we won't have time to kick a field goal or anything like that. So I made adjustment, knew Rome was either going to be 101 or he was going to beat the safety and be one on one there. And I tried to give him a shot. We got the shot and missed.
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Chris Perfett
Okay, so that didn't make sense because he had a timeout. Here's Caleb Williams said he was surprised the timeout wasn't called.
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Caleb Williams
Timeout. We cannot surprise. I'm not going to say surprise or not. Just my job is to go out there, make plays. My job is to get everybody lined up. That's it, Win games. So didn't do that today. You know, I could have gave Rome, you know, maybe a little bit more of a jump ball in that situation instead of maybe trying to throw it over the shoulder or anything like that. But you know, with that situation, that's not what happened.
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Chris Perfett
Yeah. So in other words, he adjusted as if they didn't have a timeout when they did have a timeout. Again, that's on Caleb Williams. And you can hear from the confidence in his voice kind of what I'm talking about Dan, which is like, he's not an idiot. He's actually really bright. But I think he thinks he knows everything. He's like, yeah, you know, that situation, you know, we didn't, couldn't, couldn't, you know, couldn't get a clock for a field goal. Like, yeah, you can. He goes down, you call timeout.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah. And he also made it explain. It almost felt like it was a one on one situation. I think he may, may have mentioned. Well, it wasn't. There were actually two lines. Defenders. If Roma Dunze catches that pass, he's actually still in the field of play. Time probably runs out anyway. Just a bad decision. If you're looking at the clock and you decide to throw it that far downfield.
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Chris Perfett
I just, I just, I just, I just sat there and was I Austin? I tweeted this, Dan. And I'm not saying this because you don't follow me, whatever, like, but this is how I felt. I just, I turned and I was with my coaches. Like, what do we Just watch. And then what you do this is like when you know you're a coach is you start to scramble. You like to go, have we. Have we gone over. Have we gone over all these situations to like, yeah, like, no, have we gone over? And then I. It's funny because, you know, the other thing happening this time of year, in addition to all these standalone football games, we got our first Black Friday games as well today. Doug Gottlieb, Dan Byron for Dan the Danette Stan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio is. This is a huge feast week. College basketball is everywhere. So all my players are watching games and sending me plays. Like, coach, can we do this? Coach, can we do that? I want to do this. And I had my point guard was like, hey, we're fouling up three. Fouling up three, aren't we? Like, yeah, we talked about this in the summer and early in the fall. He's like, under seven seconds. Yeah, like, we need to go back over that. I got. I guess we do. So that's when, like, you know, you've slipped into full coach mode is when you're watching a different sport and then you turn to your coaches and you're like, hey, we got to go over all this stuff. We cannot look like that because I don't even know what I just saw.
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Doug Gottlieb
I was in your in for you on your normal show on Fox Sports Radio yesterday, and we had Tim Patrick of the Lions on afterwards. Asked him about the scenario. He had no idea what the Bears were doing. I asked him if they have a plan with the Lions on if it's him or Ben Johnson or Jared Goff or anybody who would call a timeout. He goes, yeah, we have a plan in that scenario and how we would handle it. Now, Dan Campbell hasn't always been the greatest in time management at times, but the fact is, at least the line said that they had a plan. And to me, what I felt, I felt the Green Bay game so came into question as the clock was ticking down. And when Eber flu says, we got to a certain point, I almost feel like at 18 seconds, he felt it was out of his hands, but it never should be when you're the head coach, because he felt like if we call a time out here, then we can't throw it in bounds and we're not close enough and we're not going to be able to get our kicking unit out in time if the clock continues to run. And so then I think he kind of froze and panicked when he probably should have, then just called the timeout at 7 seconds left so they at least run a play or figure out what they're going to do. And instead it just ended.
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Chris Perfett
Well, it's, it's interesting and look, we have this discussion as we go, but it's like, I would say the number one thing that I'm learning on the fly is the use of the timeouts. You know, we played Oklahoma State, the first game, it was one point game at the half, they made a run. And because in college basketball, under 16 you have a timeout, under 12 you have a timeout. I found myself kind of thinking in like, all right, do I call one now? Do I not? Like, again, you have three in the second half, you have four once I use it or lose it in the first half and you end up like questioning yourself, okay, when do I use it? So if you watch our games, my use of timeouts has, is starting to kind of change and evolve. I'm, you know, when you coach in FIBA basketball, you get three, but only two. You can use under two minutes in the second half. Right? So that's, it's like a different. You can't use all three, can't pocket all three there. When you coach like AAU basketball, usually you get either one or two timeouts a half and that's it. And obviously there's no media timeouts. So you're, you're kind of trying to figure and manipulate it and you got to pocket at least one if you can. But do you pocket two? Like, it's a, it's an interesting thing. My point to eberfluous is I totally understand like those timeouts, they can get away. You know, do I save one, do I use one? But it's not like this is first year coaching, being a head coach. It's not like he hasn't been in end of game scenarios before. And I just, their, their use and misuse of all of it. It just. And again, this is probably the point you made about the kicker is, is the right one, which is if you just look at this in a, in a vacuum and it's a one off and it's a really bad look and it's one game against the Detroit Lions, you're like, you know what? They just got screwed up. Maybe in, maybe in the super. Not the, in where the Lions played Ford Field, maybe the clocks are hard to find. Maybe they just made a mistake. Okay? But then when you factor in they lost an overtime last week, they lost the packers on a, on a block field goal, the commander sings the debacle. Overall, it just does not look like a well run unit. You also combine the fact that GM doesn't have a good enough kicker indoors to kick 58 yards, which though it seems long in our brains, in 2024 these dudes can make it from 60 plus, especially indoors. The whole thing is just a complete mess. Complete mess. He's Dan Byer. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, let's talk. Let's talk Dolphins. I went to the game yesterday and got some thoughts on my first kind of cold weather snow globe Lambeau Field game. But maybe more interesting is stop me if you've heard this before, but the the Dolphins can't win in cold weather. We'll discuss next in the Dan Patrick Show.
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Jason Stewart
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Chris Perfett
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Doug Gottlieb
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Doug Gottlieb
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Chris Perfett
Buying should be Danny Just for people who don't listen to the Doug Gottlieb show, which airs daily 3 to 5 Eastern, 12, 2 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio iHeartradio app Dan Byers actually a native of Wisconsin and for people who haven't followed my journey, I am was born in Wisconsin and now I'm the head coach at Wisconsin Green Bay. And this is my, I guess it's the fourth Packer game I've gotten to go to this season, which is pretty cool, right? Went to the I think warmest Packer game ever was the was the home opener against the Indianapolis Colts. The Texans game was incredibly exciting. I was sitting kind of in the lower bowl just up off the end zone where people do the Lambo leap. And then I was there for the first half of the Cardinals game, which was A relative blowout. Not really competitive. And last night after Thanksgiving dinner, got a chance to go to my first nighttime and cold weather and there was some flurries. So it felt a little bit like a snow globe game. It's pretty enjoyable by. You've obviously been to Packer games. Have you been to a game where it's snowing?
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Doug Gottlieb
Gosh, Doug, I've been to one of the coldest games on record when they played the Raiders in the early 90s, the day the Lambo Leaf was there. I was there for the NFC championship game when they beat the Panthers in the mid-90s.
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Chris Perfett
Wow.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah.
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Chris Perfett
Was there Jake at home?
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Doug Gottlieb
That was. Gosh. That was giving Kerry Collins. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Even before that. So it was. Yeah. So I've been there. I've been to a few. Few good ones. And it's. It's definitely, definitely different from. From December and January compared to, say, that nice late summer hot day in September or an early fall matchup in October.
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Chris Perfett
It was just incredible. It's so interesting, you know, and what, What I found to be fascinating is when you, when you kind of zoom out and you look at the whole stadium, right. Obviously they have a. There's a ton of people in Pac. You throw your packers jersey over your coveralls or over whatever you're wearing. But there's also, in just about every section, there were two or three that were straight up in bright orange hunting gear.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah, right.
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Chris Perfett
Just straight up guns right now. Yes, it is. You know, straight up. Just shot a buck. And now I'm going to watch the packers play then. And I would say there's about three times that many in every section wearing full camo. And. But then you cover the camo with a Packers jersey or, you know, some sort of Packers, Packers, Packers, Jack, whatever it. And it was cold. Now, full disclosure, my seats were the club seats, so you can sit outside and I sat outside most of the game and then go inside and get a hot chocolate or get a beer and watch the game. And so it's like the lower bowl. When you're in the lower bowl, like, that's it. You're hardcore. You're squeezed in next to everybody else. Everyone's into the game, but it is cold. It's not as bad when you're up in the club section because, you know when you want to tap out, you can just go tap out and warm up for about 10 or so seconds. I was. I did sweats and then ski pants and then a big parka and I had the hand warmers in my pocket just in case. And I was fine. It was not. It wasn't bad at all. Unless you were a Miami Dolphin. Unless you were a Miami Dolphin. Here's Mike McDaniel, head coach of the Miami Dolphins, talking about the narrative that his team can't play in cold weather.
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Doug Gottlieb
That's the thing with narratives.
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Caleb Williams
There's one way to change them. And so, yeah, my expectation would be, you know, those who, I mean, the.
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Doug Gottlieb
Naysayers will, you know, you prove them right. They'll be louder.
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Caleb Williams
So that's part of the territory. You have to, you carry that until you. And until you do something about it.
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Doug Gottlieb
And unfortunately, we didn't tonight.
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Chris Perfett
Yeah, I mean, like, you know, when you, when was it Malik Washington who fumbled the opening punt? I mean, you can't. It just looked. You don't know that that's why they're playing the way they're playing. But they look, they looked incredibly uncomfortable. Incredibly uncomfortable. I'll tell you my biggest takeaway in watching the game is Tua is a statue. Like, he can't avoid the rush at all. You know, it's like Brady could move and, you know, it was. You had to move him off his spot. But Brady did have at least the ability maybe until super late in his career where he could just move just so to the side and just avoid things like Tuik has to get rid of it quick, otherwise he can't move, just can't move. And I told you in the, our pre show meeting, you know, it was. What was it, guys, about two years ago where it was that showdown, you know, Emmanuel Acho had talked about Tua being better than Justin Herbert. And I went to the game at Sofi and what was fascinating to me about that game was if you went to the game and you thought the two quarterbacks were anywhere near the same stratosphere, you needed to have an eye examination when you're done. It's not just because Herbert's like 4 inches taller. The velocity of his throws is like 2x that of Tua. The ability to layer throws, they build a move in the pocket like everything is completely better. One guy looked like a college quarterback, the other guy looked like a pro quarterback. I thought the same last night. And I know Tua's numbers were decent, but the difference in. And it was probably Jordan Love's best overall performance because he didn't throw a pick. And it wasn't just that he didn't throw a pick. He didn't throw even one that was close to being intercepted. Whereas In. I think he'd throw in a pick in every game previous this year and there was usually two or three that were kind of up for grabs. Like Jordan Love played really well. But more than anything, just, just looked, he moved better. He's a little bigger, arms much stronger. I just. My takeaway, Dan was God. Tua cannot. I mean, one of the reasons he gets hit so much is he can't move.
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Doug Gottlieb
It's. This is. And I think he said something, something interesting about Tua's numbers because they do look good. And honestly, when you consider what the Dolphins had to put out when he was out with his concussion and the problems that they had at the position. And Tua obviously is an upgrade, but is he just a compiler? This is, it's, it's almost. It feels like as well that the Dolphins are at a crossroads. Not with Tua because they paid him like he's going to be their guy, but is this what life is like when you figure out that Tyree Kill isn't going to be Tyree Kill anymore and there's something going on with how defenses are stopping Tyree Kill? But also if you're the Dolphins, when you gave two of that deal, you couldn't think that Tyree Kill was going to be the same wide receiver for as many years as Tua was getting his contract. It just Tua was going to have to take control and be that guy. And I think to your point of what you're saying is not only is he probably not going to be that guy, the concerns that we all have are that something bad could happen to him again, likely could happen to him again because he just can't move. It's scary, but that's going to be the world the Dolphins live in.
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Chris Perfett
Prophet, what were your thoughts? Just a real quick stat I just saw here.
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Jason Stewart
The Dolphins are 3 and 13 straight up as a road underdog since 2022.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah, this is Doug. You've said it a ton on your show a couple of years ago when they made that push and not to do as Jason Stewart loves schedule radio, but they beat nobodies. And I'm someone who would give credit to people and say, well at least you're winning the games that you're supposed to. But this kind of seems to be who the Dolphins are. The three game winning streak came against the Rams, Raiders and Patriots.
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Chris Perfett
Yeah, yeah, there was a lot to that game last night. I mean one, it just, it was interesting that the packers look that that was the first time, you know, start to finish outside of maybe the first drive, it really felt like the packers were really, really sharp. Really sharp. They looked like they had gotten to a different level. And you know, obviously we know the Dolphins defense is not their strength, but we're sitting around there talking and I was. One of my players was with me, he's from Israel. And so I was explaining the dynamic of the Dolphins and that they struggle in cold. And you know, you go back to was it last year, the year before, when they got off to the hot start and. But all those games were at home and teams like the Bills wore down late. Right. And anybody's been to Dolphin Stadium in the early, in the early part of the season knows that visitor sideline, you're like ants underneath a mic. What's it called? Magnifying glass. You know, you're just, you're melting away. And so they benefit from the heat, but they just one look uncomfortable. 2. I thought the packers did a great job of taking away Tyreek Hill. Like his touchdown reception was on a deflection late in the game. And I would also say, like in Tyree kill's defense, like McDaniel's got to do a better job getting him the football. The one thing they did in Kansas City was, you know, they'd run those end arounds, those little pop passes. They'd find ways to get him the ball. He's literally the most dynamic player maybe in the sport. You know, you have to put two and three guys there on him and he's. And he was kind of a non factor. So yeah, I. Not a big buyer into the, into the Dolphins. And also obviously the further, further down you go down the line, even if you make the playoffs, you're playing on the road and that's just not a team that's built for it. And again, in the afc, unlike the NFC where at least Detroit, you're playing in a dome like you're playing in Buffalo, you're playing in Kansas City, pretty much guaranteed on the road and may. Or you're playing in Baltimore or Pittsburgh. So yeah, that's, that is, that's, that's the. What's the expression? Don't buy green bananas. Yeah, don't buy green bananas.
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Doug Gottlieb
I again, and I just go back to the, to the point of I think we're starting to see what the new Dolphins are going to look like. And it wasn't just the cold last night. That's a great narrative. But let's be real, the packers are also just a better team.
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Chris Perfett
Yes.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah. So it's a Tough game to go to win. But if you're the Dolphins right now and you're seeing the John Smith show because defenses are taking away Tyreek Hill, which they have for decent amount of the season when two has been available, that, yeah, this is. You've got to figure out a different way in setting up screens for Devon E. Chan is not going to get it done. And the numbers that Tua put up last night look great.
- [35:26]
Chris Perfett
Yes.
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Doug Gottlieb
But if you end up a lot.
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Chris Perfett
Of them were late, too.
- [35:29]
Doug Gottlieb
Yes, absolutely. You're playing catch up. You're down.
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Chris Perfett
You were down 27 to 3. Yeah, the game was over, down 27 to 3. And you know, it got sort of cute there late. You know, they scored a score touchdown to make it. But then even then the packers came down. They're up 19 and you know, they score on the deflected pass and go for two and don't get it. But I'm with you, you know, again. And the other part to it is what we all have come to the realization and the calculation is if you're going to give that quarterback all that money, something's got to give. Right? That's what's going to happen with the packers right now. The packers run the benefit of they just don't have a lot of highly paid guys because they're all so young on that offensive side of the ball. But eventually, you know, you're going to time it out. Something's got to give and your quarterback has to be so good that he can overcome that. That's what's happened with Josh Allen. That's what's happened obviously with Pat Mahomes. We'll see if Lamar Jackson, right, because now he's making that huge money. So the defense is not as good as it used to be. They put it feels like most of their resources in the offensive side of the football. Your quarterback has to be that good to overcome the fact that his massive contract is going to cause some sort of shortfall. And I don't believe Tua is that good. I just. I just don't. I just do not. He's Dan Byron. Doug Gottlieb in for Dan. Dan Patrick and the Dan Ed's today. Coming up next, we'll find out if the price is right. That's next in the Dan Patrick Show.
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I was thinking about how, like, today it's suddenly become okay to wish somebody a Merry Christmas. And I don't speak for all Jewish people. I can only speak for myself as a Jewish person. Like, can we should be Merry Christmas? Like, it's like saying, hey, hope you're great. Right. It's not, it's. It's not an indictment of your religion to. I don't think to say it to a Jewish person like, merry Christmas. And I don't think it's against the rules of your Jewish to wish somebody a merry Christmas. Regardless of which, there is a price is right sort of effect to it. Right. And everybody knows the price is right. Thing is, you can't go over and in any of the bids that you make.
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Doug Gottlieb
That's true. Right.
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Chris Perfett
So I just think if you think about it, on December 1st or November, what is November 29th, you can wish somebody a Merry Christmas. Like, you're after. After Thanksgiving, you can go merry Christmas. You can't really go happy Thanksgiving now because Thanksgiving's over. And then December 26th, you can't go merry Christmas. Like, once we go over, like, nope, we're on the New Year. We're Bill Belichick. We're on to Cincinnati. Have you ever noticed that?
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Doug Gottlieb
Yes. Yes. In fact, I actually noticed driving in this morning, it was still dark out where we were here in Southern California. And I thought to myself, the people who had their Christmas lights on, like, right now.
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Chris Perfett
Yeah.
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Doug Gottlieb
Are just like, they are on schedule. They didn't do it too early. They didn't do it too late, but they are like, as soon as it's appropriate, game on. And that's going to be the case for the next month.
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Chris Perfett
You know, the other thing that's interesting is, living in the Midwest is I made the mistake of asking somebody last night at the ball game, hey, who do you have to your lights? They looked at me like, huh? It's like, well, you know, when I was in Newport beach, like, you know, you just pay somebody to come do your lights. Looks great. It's a couple hundred bucks. Done. Like, yeah. Don't ever say that out loud in public in the Midwest. Like, okay, noted. This is a diy.
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Doug Gottlieb
Doug is going to be doing his lights. Yeah.
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Chris Perfett
Zero chance. Zero chance. Especially it's cold and windy today. It's sub. It's sub 30 nothing.
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Doug Gottlieb
Wait till you pull in from a road game and you see your entire neighborhood lit up and then you're the only one that isn't. You're going to have FOMO and you're going to be out there the next day.
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Chris Perfett
It's fair point. It's a fair point. Good point. There may be a couple of players, a couple of walk ons trying to earn scholarships that'll be up there, up there on ladders. Rapid Radios, their official communication device and Fox Sports Radio Rapid Radios are instant push to talk walkie talkies offering national LTE coverage, no subscription or monthly fees. It's a great alternative to a mobile phone for your kids. We use them right here on the show. Go to rapidradios.com now for up to 60% off. He's Dan Byer. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is the Dan Patrick show. Let's, let's play a little prices, right? Shall we?
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah, let's do it. Doug, I would tell you to come on down, but everybody's already down you. Doug Gottlieb, Jason Stewart, Chris Perfett, gonna be a contestant's roast sort of game today. We're not going to play cliffhanger. There is no Plinko. Basically on this Black Friday, what I am going to do is I'm going to give you items that I have found on ebay. Sports related items that I have found on ebay.
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Chris Perfett
God, I love the prices right jingle.
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Doug Gottlieb
It's great. Magnificent.
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Chris Perfett
Sorry. I'm sorry. Go, just go. I'm enjoying.
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Doug Gottlieb
No, you guys are going to have to give me a bid on this specific item and whoever is closest without.
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Chris Perfett
Without going over right wins.
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Doug Gottlieb
All right?
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Chris Perfett
Yeah.
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Doug Gottlieb
We got three items here in this first segment.
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Chris Perfett
Okay.
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Doug Gottlieb
Three items up for bid. The first, Matt Eberflusse autographed Chicago Bears mini helmet on ebay right now. Doug Gottlieb, how much are you paying for this? Matt Eberflusse autographed mini helmet? By the way, taxes not included in this.
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Chris Perfett
I'm gonna go $49.
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Doug Gottlieb
$49 for Doug. Jason Stewart. Let's see. How about 49.99? 49.99. Chris Perfett's.
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Chris Perfett
I'm gonna go with about $36 equal.
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Jason Stewart
To the amount of seconds he left on the clock.
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Doug Gottlieb
$36 just let run off the clock.
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Chris Perfett
That's that terrible bid, by the way, Prophet.
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Doug Gottlieb
I know it is. A lot of people tell on themselves during the Price is Right in this new era. Because they have no idea on how to play these games.
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Chris Perfett
Yes.
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Doug Gottlieb
I'm not saying that you do. Perfect. Did it for comic Relief. So I completely get that. The actual retail price of a Matt Eberflusse autographed mini helmet on ebay right now is124.99. Jason Stewart, you win the Matt Eberflus autograph helmet. Congratulations. I had a feeling. Where would this go on your mantle? Because you have other memorabilia, don't you?
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Jason Stewart
Yeah.
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Doug Gottlieb
Dan Byer bought me a Chargers. 80s Chargers. Like Dan Fouts Chargers mini helmet. I'll put it right on top of that. Any mini helmets, Doug, that you like, you'd like for Christmas?
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Chris Perfett
No.
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Doug Gottlieb
All right.
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Chris Perfett
I just. You're the mini helmet guy. So, like, this is. This is much more up your alley than mine.
- [45:18]
Doug Gottlieb
All right, let's, let's, let's.
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Chris Perfett
I do think there's a certain value there in Uber Flutes because he's going to be one of those, like, who is that coach who was with the Bears? And I liked them on Hard Knocks and then they had that like. And you start naming all the Bears coaches. Who was it? Lovey Smith. No, it was not Lovey Smith.
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Doug Gottlieb
Mark Tressman.
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Chris Perfett
Tressman. Mark Tressman. Good pull. Of CFL fame. Mark Tressman, right?
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Doug Gottlieb
Yes.
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Chris Perfett
Yeah. Matt Eberflusse. I got his mini helmet.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah. There it is.
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Chris Perfett
Step at the bar. There it is. All right, 149.99.
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Doug Gottlieb
Next item up for bid. You guys remember ray gun from the Summer Olympics?
- [46:02]
Chris Perfett
Yeah. She shut it down, didn't she?
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Doug Gottlieb
She did. Which may make this item even more valuable. Because who knows if we're going to get more of these back to back collectibles Trading card company has produced a Rachel Gunn, aka Ray Gunn one of 150 red hologram trading card. A trading card of the Australian breakdancing phenomenon. How much are you paying for this? Jason Stewart, you are first up for bids. Oh, my God. A ray gun trading card. I don't even have a good punch line here, so I'm just going to throw this out there. 1899. $18.99. Chris Perfett. Man. A1 of 150. There's only 150 others like Red holograms.
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Jason Stewart
These are either really high or really low. I feel like three bucks.
- [47:04]
Doug Gottlieb
Three bucks crisper fed. Doug Gottlieb.
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Chris Perfett
What was. What was. What was yours? J Steel.
- [47:09]
Doug Gottlieb
1899.
- [47:11]
Chris Perfett
Okay. $19.
- [47:12]
Doug Gottlieb
$19. All right. The actual retail price of The Rachel Gunn one of 150 red hologram hologram trading card from back to back is $6. Chris Perfett. You win it. $3 was his bed bid. Six bucks for that item.
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Chris Perfett
I may be alone in saying this. I would buy that. Sure.
- [47:36]
Jason Stewart
Yeah, why not?
- [47:36]
Doug Gottlieb
Hand right now.
- [47:37]
Chris Perfett
If you go to E. It's like a penny stock. Yeah, whatever. It's like six bucks. Like I. I have spent more than that on a couple weird collectible and like weird collectible and then you know, you never know. May run into ray gun at some some has been event.
- [47:53]
Doug Gottlieb
How about this one? 1998 Louisiana Times newspaper highlighting the wooden classic with Doug Gottlieb as one of the players on the COVID of this LA Times.
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Chris Perfett
No way. I want that.
- [48:04]
Doug Gottlieb
Yes. Chris Perfett, start the bidding on this LA Times.
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Jason Stewart
Okay, yeah, no, I'm gonna say man.
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Dan Byer
230.
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Doug Gottlieb
230. Doug.
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Chris Perfett
$1.
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Doug Gottlieb
$1. Jason Stewart. I'm going to go with 49.99. 49.99. The actual retail price of this LA Times newspaper featuring Doug on the COVID is $8.33. Doug, you're taking it home with the $1 bid. Coomer. Congratulations.
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Chris Perfett
Where can I actually get that? Can you send me ebay?
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah, it's just on ebay. Just search Doug Gottlieb. Actually don't do it after the show because there may be more Doug Gottlieb memorabilia up for bids.
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Chris Perfett
Wait, what?
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah, there may be more.
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Chris Perfett
I know what I'll be doing during the break. Hey, Dan Byron. I'm Doug Golliban for Dan and Dan. Dan and the Danettes. Coming up, which rivalry game this weekend will have the most impact on the college playoff standings? We'll talk some college football next. The Dan Patrick show. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest.
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