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Bucks and the Pacers, Pistons, Knicks, Magic, Celtics, Clippers and the Nuggets. I would say there was basketball last night, but maybe a reasonable facsimile. Cavaliers blow out the Miami Heat. Boy, so much for Heat culture. This is one of the biggest bl I. You know, even by saying it's a blowout, that's downgrading this. The Cavaliers beat the Heat 138 to 83. They completed a first round sweep, the 55 point win, fourth largest margin of victory in a playoff game in NBA history. Cleveland also outscored the Heat by a combined 122 points. That's the largest point differential in a playoff series in NBA history. How about a round of applause for the Miami Heat? We need a word that's bigger than blowout. I don't know if you can say those words on on radio, but at some point you have to go, we're not going to win this. We probably can't even make it respectable. But when I saw that it was 43 to 17, I go, okay, I'm going to guess the Cavaliers are probably going to move on. Just a guess, but I think they're going to be able to move on from the Miami Heat and Heat culture. The Miami Heat are sort of like the St. Louis Cardinals. They're always there. Feels like they're always competitive. They'll like dip in and be in a World Series or win one, but they're always playoff worthy, playoff caliber. And then all of a sudden, Jimmy Butler wants out. And now it's Tyler Hero, Bam Adebayo's team. And they went south quickly. But let's not lose sight of the Cleveland Cavaliers. They got the defensive player of the year and they got the coach of the year. They've been a great surprise that they took that next step just like OKC did. That that's what you want to see with these teams are going to compete for a title. What do you do the following year when everybody expects you to be great? OKC had the best record in basketball. Look at what the Cavaliers were able to do in the shadow of the Boston Celtics. But last night. I know. We'll focus on the Heat. That was embarrassing. But what the Cavs have done throughout the series, they did what they were supposed to do. Yes. Todd, when it's 72:33 at halftime and you're in the locker room, is it okay to take a peek at the travel agent or to kind of figure out where you might want to go with the family on vacation? You know, what's possible to catch you doing that, but maybe in for a second, you're in the corner. They're just kind of looking at travelocity. I don't know. The Miami Heat have made the playoffs 26 times in the last 32 seasons. It's a given. But all of a sudden you're looking at the Miami Heat differently. That used to be a destination member players would always talk about. They wanted to go Miami. Dame Lillard wanted to go to Miami. And a lot of these players are like, yeah, that's where I want to go. And I don't know if that's going to be the case moving forward here. Heat culture. Yes. Yes, Marvin. But the thing is, they're still in Miami. They are. They are. You can visit. You don't have to go there. Kind of like Atlanta. NBA players love visiting Atlanta. Yeah. Just not living there. Yeah, well, they might love living there, and it's not playing there. Yes, Paulie, you're right. There was a time where both lifestyle and team the Heat were like a one seed for free agents. Yeah. But they got Roughed up. And now the Cleveland Cavaliers will move on. Cleveland has Boston next. No, no, Cleveland has. Well, we don't know what's going to happen in the rest of the east here. So Magic and the Celtics and the Pistons and the Knicks. So they would get the Pacers, the Cavs would get the Pacers and the Knicks and the Celtics. So that's good. That'll be fun. I'm telling you, the Pacers, they can score. They're dangerous. Now, I know they're going against the Milwaukee team that's banged up. But don't sleep on the Pacers, you know, beating Cleveland. I watch enough of them to know that they are. They probably love the fact that nobody talks about them at all. Rick Carlisle probably loves that. It's like, all right, don't let him. We don't need it. No headlines here. Nothing to see here. You know you want to, hey, Caitlin Clark's in Indianapolis. You know, come and see Caitlin Clark. Don't worry about us. Pistons in the Knicks. Let's see, what else do we have? Here's the 49ers extended George Kittle, and that just happened. So now he is the highest paid tight end in the game. Well, I don't think you're bringing back George Kittle if you're not going to bring back or pay Brock Purdy that kind of money. Now, of course they're bringing back Brock Purdy. The question is, how much are they going to spend? Now I would have thought you would have was signed Brock Purdy and then George Kittle. But they've gone the other way around here with George, you know, because now they can say to Brock, well, we gave George, you know, a lot of this money. Like we don't have that much left over. Would you play for $47 million a year? And I still go back to what I said about Brock Pie. If he was drafted where Mac Jones was, I don't think anybody would have a problem with paying him $50 million. It's just in our mind we're going, he was Mr. Irrelevant. Even if he's like taken the round before that final round, we might look at him a little bit differently. But the fact that you're Mr. Irrelevant, well, how good can he be? And George Kittle, I think it was a fifth round draft pick. You know, you get these guys. And that leads us to Shador Sanders because, yes, everybody still has some kind of angle on this. There's a crusade here for Shador Sanders. You know, this should not be lumped in with Colin Kaepernick, completely different. But you're getting analysts or host who are saying, oh, you know, we. Kaepernick was blackballed. I don't think Shador Sanders was. Although Boomer Assassin did say on his radio show that owners were told to take him off their draft boards, told their people to take him off their draft boards. Okay, I don't think that's collusion, but, you know, it. It feels like people are trying to make this more than maybe you just had somebody who was not as good as we thought. Maybe you had those doing mock drafts who didn't do a good job on this. They basically whiffed on it. And they took Dion's word that his son was great. And Albert Brer, the Monday morning quarterback, is going to join us coming up. And, you know, he had some interesting things to say and he said, you know, let's just have an honest conversation about Shador Sanders. And he said it starts with the team's evaluations of Dion's son Shador as a player. Tuesday before the draft, Albert Brear and the Monday morning quarterback said that it wasn't easy to find coaches or scouts who viewed the Colorado quarterback as a first round talent. He's not a great athlete, didn't show great arm talent, bad habits of taking unnecessary sacks, bailing out of the back of the pocket, had trouble playing on time in general, did things off schedule, and they weren't going to translate to the NFL. Also, he did not take blame when asked about interceptions when he was interviewed by some teams. Okay, but did we think he was going to drop to the fifth? If we knew all of this, then why were we still banging the drum that he should be a top 10 pick, 15 pick, first round pick, Steelers at 21. I mean, it was right there in front of us, wasn't it? It's the same thing with Johnny Manziel. Johnny Manziel, everything that was going on with him was right in front of us. It felt like we didn't want to ruin the story. Like the story was great. Johnny Manziel. And then if you realize guy didn't love football, I think he was great at football. He cared about being a star, didn't put in the time stuff that went on at Texas A and M. Thank God he had Mike Evans as, you know, his wide receiver, you know, so it was right there. We sometimes have wishful reporting and I don't know if people wished that Chador Sanders was going in the first round, but we certainly like the prospect of could he go to the Steelers? What's Dion's relationship with Mike Tomlin? What about the Rams? Would the Rams go up and get him? Are the Giants going to go back into the first. You know, so we created all these scenarios, and really, I think Shedor Sanders needed somebody who was going to be honest with him. I think his son, or being the son of Dion, you know, there is entitlement there. I think you're. It's your team. You're able to do what you want. You're the quarterback. But are you as good as you think you are? Like, you can tell us and your dad can tell us. I just think that they probably needed somebody in their camp to say, I'm going to be honest with you here, because you have a lot of yes men. If you're around celebrities, you're around actors, musicians, there's a lot of people tell you what you want to hear, but you want to hear what is going to make you better, what is going to keep you grounded. He doesn't have an agent, and that agent might have been honest with Shador and just said, anna, I don't want to be a buzzkill, but I'm not hearing good things about this or this or this. Hey, we gotta be ready for this. Like, that's what an agent does. I'm sure there are advisors there, but Dion, when Dion was with us at the super bowl, certainly felt like he was the battering ram. He was. He was the Trojan horse. He was. He was going in and he was going to tell teams, don't draft. My son talked about the Cleveland Browns not wanting his son to go there, but I think if somebody would have been or should have been honest then maybe he wouldn't have suffered a painful lesson. Now, he would have gotten humbled, but he would at least been prepared. And then that's when you take the. The initiative. That's where you go, hey, I got things that I'm working on and will continue to work on. And I realize I'm not a finished product. I'm ready to go. Whatever Cleveland wants me to do, I'll do. I want to be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. Like, at least if you push it forward and not be defensive or blame it on, you know, scouts or people who didn't like Dion, whatever. Whatever somebody's initiative is. I think just being honest, that's sometimes what you want to. There are times I don't want to hear things, but I'll hear things that I know that, you know, Paulie will say hey, don't want to be a buzzkill, but. And then he'll tell me something like, all right, I gotta eat that. This is what Shador I think needed. Because the truth is the best advice of all in a situation like this, and you get caught up in this, you're like, being told, you know, a lot of sycophants out there. They're going to tell you what you want to hear, man, you're great, man. You get those Giants cleats, man. You're going to the Giants. You know, you and Malik, neighbors. You're going to be here. It's you, man. I mean, that's why you have guys who watch Entourage. You know, when you see Entourage, they're telling Vinnie Chase whatever he wants to hear. That's what this is Dion. And maybe. Maybe he had tough love for him and told him, hey, you gotta stop doing this. Hey, you got to be in the moment. Hey, you have to listen to these people. Hey, you got to be prepared. I mean, I would think Dion would do that, but it certainly didn't feel like Shador Sanders went into those interviews trying to impress you. It's almost as if he came into those interviews to say, all right, you need to impress me. What do you got? And it doesn't work that way. Yeah, Paulie. It does feel a bit like a confluence of things. The first athletes of the Nil era who are making millions in college come in differently, with a different tone, driving whatever cars are driving. And maybe they don't play the game like they used to, but it seems like a couple of things happened the past 24 hours. I don't know who said it the other day, but some teams never even looked at Shador Sanders because they didn't expect him to fall. So that takes a bunch of teams out that might have drafted him. Then boomer size, and said a few owners told their people, don't take them under any circumstances. That takes out a couple more teams. Now you're running out of possible landing spots where it doesn't really matter how many rounds you go. If those teams passed on you, they're not going to come back. Like, a couple things had to happen for this to happen. Yeah, but I still go back to the Raiders. I mean, Tom Brady's known this kid for a long time, but. And he drafted a quarterback later on, so you. You can't go in it and go, hey, where's. Where's our bargain in the draft? If Tom. So when you say, oh, you know, this is collusion, why did Tom Brady pass on him and they drafted a quarterback late in the draft. That's what I don't understand because Tom has been around Shador Sanders and Dion had him mentor his son and they bypassed him a few times, I think. And I don't have confirmation on this, but I'm trying to get this is there were a couple of teams that just didn't view him as a starter, but did view him as a quarterback in the NFL. And there's a big difference in that because a lot of times you'll get the quarterback in the first round, but you don't get the quarterback until like the fourth or fifth round. Now, you know, Jalen Hurts was a second round pick, but, you know, if you look back on some of these drafts, a lot of times you don't get the second round, you know, draft pick at that position because you're either good enough to be in the first round or you're going to be later on because you're a backup quarterback. Now, some of these guys will take snaps as a starter this year. I truly believe there could be three or four of these quarterbacks who were taken later who will play this year in the NFL. But that doesn't mean they're first round, you know, talents. That doesn't mean there's a franchise quarterback, a starting quarterback. And I think that's what happened with Shador Sanders. He was a really good college quarterback. He got by with doing some things that he needed to really clean up on. And these are things that I told you about with arm strength, line of scrimmage, speeding things up, you know, being, you know, having that clock in your head, being. And this is what is told to me by two scouts and helped out by having Travis Hunter as well, held onto the ball too long. Didn't take blame when things went bad. But then I had one scout who said to me last night, his teammates loved him, loved him. They like, they, they. His energy, everything about it. And I'm like, like there's a, there's just such a, a fractured, mixed message here. That's what I'm still trying to figure this out. But I do think as I talked to a source last night, he just not viewed as a starting quarterback. A franchise quarterback was the word. But that's why he, he drifted because he's a backup quarterback in some people's eyes. And I think, you know, Cleveland going back in to get him, that felt like that was an owner doing Dion a solid there and his son. It really felt that way. Whether that's true or not. And I think Cleveland was the right place for him. I really do. I think Shador Sanders will eventually be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. Now, I don't know if he's great, but I still think that situation. And they owe $46 million to Deshaun Watson this year and next year. Congratulations. All right, let me take a break. Getting long winded here. Let's see. Poll question. I have that for you coming up. Yes, Paul. I just keep thinking about the Browns watching Baker Mayfield throw for 40 touchdowns. Yeah, yeah. All right, we'll take a break. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports and of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? 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Settle on a poll question here. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback, had some great intel on Shador Sanders and he said in his column, let's just have an honest conversation about Shador Sanders. But I still lean on did you have somebody who was playing the bad guy here who was going to tell you what the truth was or is? Because there are a lot of, you know, now the stories come out and I'm curious why the stories came out. When you had reporters, analysts, this is what they do. Like this information. I'm surprised didn't surface before that. Now you would get like a bad interview here. Okay. And then all of a sudden you got he went to the Shrine bowl and didn't want to do anything, wasn't cooperative. You know. Now this is just people reporting this. I don't have any other information on that. So I'm taking their word on this. But I still go back to how many quarterbacks have been taken in the second round in the last 10 years. Paulie it's pretty uncommon. They usually go first or way down, fourth, fifth, sixth. Will Levis, 2023 Kyle Trask, 2021 Jalen Hurts, Jalen Hurts, 2020 Drew Locke, 2019 DeShawn Kaiser. Wow. 2017 Throwback Christian Hackenberg, 2016 and Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo, 2014. That's the past 10 years. Yeah. And this goes back to what my source told me yesterday. We look at a first round grade and there's a big drop from first round grade down to a third or fourth round grade I mean that's, that's the reality of this. They have first round grades and then all of a sudden they have other needs for that second and third round and then fourth round or fifth round if you're there, or sixth, then maybe they go after you, but they're going to view you differently and you're going to be viewed as a backup quarterback as opposed to a franchise quarterback. Jackson Dart is viewed as a starter for the Giants. Cam Ward will start from day one. But they didn't have other grades, first round grades. And I think that's why Shedeur fell because he, he wasn't a second round and you know, wasn't third round because they're, you know, if you're a second round pick now, all of a sudden you've got a little bit more cachet. When you walk into that locker room when you're in the fourth or fifth or sixth round, it's different. You're just, you're just thrilled to be on a team, thrilled to be on a roster. And I think that's what Chador was fitting into that window. It was first round. Nope. It was going to be a little bit further than that. Yeah, Paul, I just did the math on it and it's about eight quarterbacks taken around two over the past decade. You know, 20 quarterbacks taken around four and five. Yeah, but that, that's what you're looking, you know, when you get a quarterback there, you're, you're, maybe it's a pleasant surprise where you go, you know, he might, he might start, might, might start here. Hey, gonna make the roster or, and that's where you're looking for a different kind of personality. Like who are you? Are you Bailey Zappy? And you're going to be good in the quarterback room. Joe Milton, like you're looking for guys who they may start, but how are they going to be in the quarterback room? And maybe that scared some teams, but Shador, because you're bringing in more than just a quarterback taken 144th, who in his mind is probably going, hey, I'm first round. I'm better than Cam Ward. I'm, I'm sure he has that, that kind of feeling. Consensus. I, I'm the best quarterback in the draft. I mean, I'm sure Jackson Dart feels that way and Cam Ward and Tyler shot. I mean, but that's the mindset you have to have. But you need to have somebody who deals in reality. And that's the point that I think wasn't made. Would an agent have been honest with Shador and Dion and said, I'm not hearing great things. Because if Dion calls one of the analysts, I mean, he used to work for the NFL Network. He knows all of these guys. If he said, hey, what's going on? Is somebody going to go, man, I'm hearing some bad things and, you know, it didn't go well with the Giants or the Shrine. I don't know if somebody's going to be honest with you because you're Dion and Dion's telling everybody his son's a first round talent, they may go top five. Yes, Todd. And if you did have an agent with you who was honest and you're dealing with egos of father and son and what have you, maybe they're like, well, if you don't believe in my son, we'll just get another agent. I'm not going to listen to that. We're going to go with someone that's on board with the team prime that thinks he is going to go far and go high in the draft. All right, we have poll question Seaton for hour one. What are you thinking about? Well, we got a couple of options here for you. This one, not anything NFL draft related, but if the Miami Heat didn't quit last night, what did they do? So your options there? They could be. See, Paulie's been all over this one. They realized it was over. Okay, but. But you don't want to say an athlete, a professional athlete quit, right? They didn't quit last night. But did they just accept that they couldn't win? I. We're not going to win. We can't win. I think I need to come up with another phrase where I don't accuse somebody of quitting. Did they give less than their all? Yeah. Were they conserving their energy for next season? Yes. Todd, you don't want to get hurt right before vacation either. You're giving it your own. You're down 53 and then you pull a ham. You know, like you had plans to go on a boat somewhere. Now you're on crutches during your off time because you were trying hard down 40. That's fair. This might be less of a poll question and more of something we take suggestions for. If the Miami Heat didn't quit last night, what did they do? I would say nothing. They didn't quit. They didn't give up. They just did nothing. They just didn't try. They didn't give it their all. They didn't give 110. This is where you can say, you know you didn't give 110%. You gave, I don't know, like, 41%. But you lose 138 to 83. You lose by 55. That's not good. That's not good. That's embarrassing. You can't do that in the playoffs. And you know, the Cavs score points. They're going to get 120. But, you know, there was a while member first team to 90. 90 points and you'd win an NBA game. Now you can get a buck 20. That doesn't mean you're going to win. Any other poll questions for hour one? Yeah, we actually got a bunch here from the tow. Oh. If you're interested in those. Yeah, sure. Would you want Draymond Green on your team right now? Yes or no? Okay, right now. But for how much longer? Right now. Just. That's it? That's all you're getting is the playoffs right now? Yeah. Yes is. Yeah. Well, Steve Kerr had some great praise for Draymond Green. He had this to say. When a team in the game on the line decides to post up Draymond, and you're watching it, like, how. On a scale of 1 to 100, how good do you feel about your chances in that situation? One being great or 100 being great? 100 being great? 100. That's. I feel like 100. Yeah. I mean, he's the best defender I've ever seen my life. And he rises to the occasion, you know, on top of being, you know, a great defender, he's an incredible competitor. And so anytime. And we've seen it. I've seen it for 11 years. Game on the line, Draymond making a stop. It's like having Steph Curry take the shot. Okay, you're gonna back your guy. Steve's been around a lot of great defenders. Now, I would say. Steve, you're saying Draymond is a better defender than Michael Jordan? Are you saying he's better than Scotty Pippen? And then he would have to modify his answer because those guys were two of the greatest who have ever played defense. I mean, Draymond's a nuisance. Draymond learned from the Dennis Rodman playbook when Dennis was with the Bulls and what he did to Carl Malone when they would face them or Shawn Kemp. You get into your head. I mean, all of these guys are kind of taking what Rodman did, and Rodman was one of the smartest basketball players I've ever been around and really never gotten credit for that. And Draymond is A really basketball IQ is very high. Would I want him on my team? Yes. I'd have to know how many technicals he had during the regular season. And I'd like to know who is going to be the lifeguard here babysitting him because I don't think he listens. Like, he does stupid things. And you can see how Steph Curry reacts. Like, come on, like, what are we doing? Why are we doing this? But that's. He's came in that way, he'll go out that way. Do I think he's one of the great defenders of all time? Yeah, I guess. Yeah. But I'm talking about. There's a, there's a difference in being a great defender like Rudy Gobert. I always bring up the most overrated player in the history of the game, but they'd say, oh, rim protector. Well, then I'd watch him against Joker. And I go, no, no, no, no, no. He should be competitive when he's going against Giannis and some of these guys. And they probably look at him like, are you kidding me? But, you know, we get caught up in on ball. Defender like that, to me is defense. It's, it's me against you. Not help defense. Ben Wallace, one of the great defenders, help wise, not on ball going in, went into the hall of Fame defensive player of the year a few times. Give me the guy who. I got him like Gary Payton was. I got, I got that guy right there. That to me is a defender, the guy who helped defense. Okay? That usually means you don't have a guy who's that good that you're sloughing off of. And you can, you know, cheat a little bit here. But if Jordan wanted to be the best defender in the game and let, let's take out Bill Russell, but I'm talking about modern basketball. Mike or Scotty could have been the best defensive player in the game, in the history of the game, because they could guard everybody, especially Pippen. I thought Pippen was a better all around defender than Mike because he's going to guard anybody and he's going to block your shot. He's going to have steals. Remember when he picked up Mark Jackson full court when they faced him in the playoffs? I felt bad for Mark because, you know, he looked like Ice Cube out there on the, on the floor against Scotty. Yeah, Paulie Draymond Green got 12 technical fouls this season. He said before the year started his goal was to have 10 under 10, because he's been over 10 for 11 straight years. Isn't he, though? A guy like him, a necessity to winning teams. You have to have one guy who will do the, the things, the picks, the flared knees, the diving and frustrating other players. He's an. I think he's a necessity to a great team. Yes. I mean, he's not the best player, although, like he's the best passer on the team and, and he rebounds and he does all the, the intangibles. I like that. I just wish he wouldn't, you know, be silly out there. And when, when the Celtics played the warriors and I remember coming in after one of those games and I said, somebody's got to just tell him. You can act silly. Jason Tatum is laughing at you now. Just play basketball. And he did, and they ended up winning. But I think sometimes you get caught up in this is how I'm supposed to play. And he's going to be a Hall of Famer, though. Is he the best defender that Steve's ever seen? I don't think so. But back your guy. Yes, Marvin. But as an on ball defender, Draymond is the best in this era. I don't know about any, any other errors this era. Dream on. Ball defender. Moving your feet, Great hands. Greatest swiping the ball. A great post defender for being some. For someone that's six. Six. Do you think that he is a better defender than Scotty Pippen? No. Do you think he's better than. Boy, you didn't see Mike then. If you paused, you didn't see Mike. But if Mike wanted to lock you down, Mike would like I'm telling you, he would. He would lock you down. Because maybe I'm looking at last three Pete Mike. Maybe I'm looking at last three Pete Mike. Because like you said, I think the greatest player I've ever seen is Michael Jordan before the rings. Michael Jordan before the rings. Ice Cube said it best. Freaking brothers every way. Like mj, however you wanted it, Mike was going to give it to you. On defense, he's going to block all the shots. He's going to make all he. He averaged 37 points a game and one defensive player of the year in the same season. Yeah. So you're right. You're right. I'm going to concede to Michael Jordan. If Mike, if Mike wanted it, Mike would get it. He just would. But I think that Scotty, Scotty was a better defender all around than Mike. And, and if you go, I can guard one through five. There aren't many guys who can do one through five. I mean, Gary Payton was great. He did not guard one through five. He might get one and two, but that's it. But being, you know, okay. I think the consensus is Draymond Green, one of the great defenders of all time. We can agree. Yeah, we can agree on that. And he's going to go into the hall of Fame. All right, let me take a break. When we come back, we're going to have a quick NFL game. What is the quick NFL game? We're going to play Paul. That's next. Oh, wow. Okay. Play of the day is also up next. 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I wanted to go and make the playoffs, but I thought a lot of teams can make the playoffs. Which team would you bet would not win a playoff game? Who would like to go first? Oh, okay. I think the Cleveland Browns are getting further, not closer after this weekend. I've been thinking about them a lot. I think they're going further than closer to. I don't think that's break into programming news there. Well, I was not breaking the programming, but a lot of people love what they did on draft day. I think they made a big mistake and they made it worse, not better. Okay, Todd, what about your team that won't win a playoff game? I'm having a tough time seeing the Arizona Cardinals winning a playoff game in the next. All right. What about you, Seaton? Oh, man. Well, it's tough without the Browns on the board. I'm gonna say the Titans. I don't think they're close. Okay. Marvin. I'm gonna say the Indianapolis Colts. Wow. All right, that's a good choice there. I would say the Browns just because they're the Browns. You know, you factor in the division that you're in, that makes it tough for them. If you're the Colts, you might be able to win that division. Or Tennessee could win that division. I mean, the Colts. I thought the Colts were going to be a 10 win team. They won eight. You know, would that have put them in the playoffs with 10 wins and they may eventually get it right, but you know, their quarterbacking situations in a state of flux right now. Yes, Todd, I know he's made some strides, but Panthers is Bryce Young and the Panthers win a playoff game in the next few years. We're rooting for him. Yeah, we are. How about the Jets? Aaron Glenn talking a good game, bringing his Dan Campbell attitude there to the Jets. Okay. I mean, you can have that attitude. I, it's, it's great. But I just go, all right, who's your quarterback? Like that's where I start. Hey, your coach talking tough man. Who's your cornerback? All right. Justin Fields. All right, fine. Like I'm okay with that. The Bills aren't going anywhere as far as they're going to be a mainstay in there. Patriots will probably get better here sooner and I don't know what's going on with the Dolphins. I just, I don't have high hopes for that situation. That's your quick NFL game. Yeah. Dan in Salt Lake. Hi, Dan. What's on your mind today? Good morning Dan and crew. I messed up last Friday so I would like to say six one a soft 220 and one question is the fact that Shador Sanders filed $11 million in bankruptcy a character flaw as far as the GMs around league when it comes to ability to, to confine yourself and be structured. If you would answer it, I'll take it off here. Thank you for your time. Yeah, I don't know enough about it. I mean I saw the report. I don't, I didn't do a deep dive on him. I know that with Nil made a lot of money. He drove a Maybach, I believe. Gave his dad a gift as well. Something expensive. Yeah. Paul. Yeah. That story is not about Shador Sanders is about his brother Shiloh. So that is factually incorrect. Okay. Yeah. Once again, I didn't know anything about it. Let's see. How about wild defiling bankruptcy though made you not good enough to be a quarterback but pretty much do any other line of work. Brandon, you'd be the leader of the free world and file bankruptcy a gajillion times. But you can't play quarterback for an NFL team. That seems unlikely. Brandon in Wisconsin joining us. Hi, Brandon. Hey, Dan. 63185 so you were talking about Chadhur Sanders and being a 5th round pick and just being like he could be happy to be on the team. As loaded as the, I shouldn't say loaded, but as full as the Cleveland Browns quarterback room is, if he has a real bad summer and a bad camp, is there a chance that he doesn't make the team at all? Sure. Yeah. But I think for everybody, like not many teams go into training camp and go everybody could be released like Kenny Pickett. Does Joe Flacco even play this year? I think the odds are right now that Kenny Pickett will be the starter for the Cleveland Browns. But Dylan Gabriel, I don't know. Shador, I think Shador will end up getting a start this year. That's about as far as I can go with it. Jack in Michigan. Hi, Jack. Morning, Dan. Morning. I love hearing the draft every year because of all the cliches. And the one that I heard numerous times this year was about defensive linemen with a high ceiling because they have heavy hands and violent hands. And I'm wondering if Marvin has a low pickleball ceiling because he has light hands and peaceful hands. Okay. Do you have peaceful hands, Marvin? But just because my hands are small doesn't mean they're not violent. Whoa. Boom. Yes. They throw them small. Yeah. Aaron, Donald, meet your heart. Oh, look at that move. Oh. No one can see it on radio. What I'm doing right now. Wow. Oh, look at that. Oh, look at that. Oh, whoa. Hold on. Sorry, sorry. Dang, that's violent. Those are heavy hands. You couldn't see him, but. Oh, yeah, there. I love those cliches. It's like they lock onto one or two and then everybody's using it that year. Yeah. Paulie, oily hips was 2018. That's. That was Mike Mayon. He gave us oily hips. Love that one. Yeah. That reminded me that time in the club in Atlanta. Do tell. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback, he joins us coming up. Todd's here, Seaton's here, Marv's here, Paulie's here, and yours truly. It's nostalgia overload as Wilmer Valderrama and Freddie Rodriguez welcome another amigo to their podcast, Dos Amigos. Wilmer's friend and former that 70s show castmate Topher Grace stops by the speakeasy for a two part interview to discuss his career and reminisce about old times. We were still in that place of like, what will this experience become? And you go, you're having the best time. But it was like such a perfect golden time. 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