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Brady Quinn (2:48)

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Jonas Knox (2:51)

And away we go. It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. You can usually hear Brady and myself alongside Lavar Arrington on two Pros and a Cup of Joe weekday mornings here before the Dan Patrick Show. But it will be BQ and I taking you all the way up until noon Eastern Time, 9 o' clock Pacific. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. And be sure to check out our brand new YouTube channel for the show. Just search 2 Pros FSR on YouTube. Again, that's 2 Pros FSR. Be sure to hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up icon and comment away. Let us know who on the show you agree with, who you think is wrong. But check out our new channel on YouTube again, just search 2 pros FSR and subscribe.

Radhi Devlukia (3:36)

What up?

Jonas Knox (3:36)

What up, Brady?

Brady Quinn (3:38)

Happy New Year, Jonas. I hope you were able to enjoy all the games yesterday, all the festivities. I, I know you still worked in this time slot, however. Many, many took some time off just to watch ball hang with the family and friends. That's what we were doing. So we actually was at one of the games. So there was some boots on the ground for the, the Orange Bowl. So that was a ton of fun. But I'll start off by asking this question. How long do you get to say Happy New Year to someone?

Jonas Knox (4:07)

I think that's pretty much it. I think, I think you should be.

Brady Quinn (4:10)

So after today, if you say Happy New Year, someone, you're a jerk.

Jonas Knox (4:13)

Yeah. Basically you were the main event of the Happy New Year. And anybody that says it after you, they're just, they're, they're a fraud. Like they, they, it's, it's worn out. It's welcome. We are done. You just said the last one and now you got to move on to 2026.

Brady Quinn (4:31)

So you're not going to say Happy New Year to Lavar when you See him on Monday.

Jonas Knox (4:35)

Oh, God, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Of course not. I didn't even say it to my wife. No, please, come on. No, that's not happening. Yeah, it's over. You were the last one. So anybody that said just you're put on notice, anybody that says it the rest of the day, you are a fraud. You're living a lie, and you are trying to carry on. It's just. It is what? I don't make these rules. I don't make these rules.

Brady Quinn (5:02)

January 2, 2026. And you can't have more of a rosy attitude. Speaking of Rosie, by the way, what about that? Rules.

Jonas Knox (5:10)

How about you? Look at you, Mr. Segway King. Look at you. Can I tell you, just because the nuances of football, you've forgotten more than 99% of the planet. I'll just say this, that there are certain games where you watch and you don't need to know the nuances. You don't need to know the fine details. You can just look at it. And it is completely obvious to the. To the untrained eye, Indiana is so much better than Alabama, it's almost shocking. Like, I was watching the game going, you know what it reminded me of? It reminded me of when SEC teams in the early 2000s or mid 2000s were playing other teams. Like, that's it. Like, it's almost like roles reverse, like those old Florida teams with. With Urban Meyer. Like, it was like roles reversed to where you're watching. And it looks like two different levels of football.

Brady Quinn (6:07)

I am. Look, I'm still shocked. I still keep thinking that I'm, like, asleep and I'm dreaming and I'm watching a team that. I mean, if you go back to the Big Ten championship, we always get these notes before some of these games. And I believe Indiana was the second most losing program in college football history. And I keep taking that into account. I remember, like, looking at some of the notes of how Ohio State has, like, the second most wins, something like that. And the difference between Ohio State and their program, history of wins, and Indiana, that difference, I think equated to or almost equated to the amount of wins that Indiana has in its school history. So when we talk about what Kurt Signetti, Fernando Mendoza, the staff, the players, everyone involved, when we talk about what they've done, not only last year, because last year was kind of that moment where you're like, okay, feels like that Cinderella story, you know, where you're dreaming and you're like, are you going to wake up, is this dream ever going to. Going to end? This year solidified the foundation of what they did last year and what they're doing this year. To me, it's the greatest turnaround in sports history. Like I can't think of some people talked about Kansas State. This is way beyond that. Throw me out a professional sports franchise, that's a bigger turnaround. A team that was largely viewed as a doormat. I mean, I can't tell you I visited there back when I was in high school. I had a buddy, Adam Cadello, who's a linebacker, who was looking to go there too. And we kind of went on the Visit and Coach DiNardo was there. I loved Coach DiNardo is running a west coast system. But you got there and you, you looked at the home stadium, you looked at facilities and you're like, this is not a football school, this is a basketball school, man. Like coming off, obviously, Bobby Knight and that, you know, growing up, watching him, when I was young, being a basketball player, I can't, I still can't fathom what they've accomplished. And what sticks out the most to me, Jonas, is being at the Big ten championship game and being around this team. When you see them up close, you know, they don't. It looks like David and Goliath. I know that reference gets thrown around a bunch, but when you look at the sheer size of the players on Indiana versus the Ohio states, the Alabama's the name, your organ, for example, who they beat earlier this season, when you look at them on the field versus one another, you're going, yeah, I don't, I don't think they're going to match up. But they overcome that with the way they play as a team. They seldom if ever make mistakes. They are one of the best technical teams you will ever find. And I think what stands out to me the most too is even when they're put in positions where they have to win a one on one battle, they're either winning that one on one matchup. I don't care what's on the offensive line, at wide receiver, at db, or it's a stalemate. Like they don't really lose. Like they just don't do the things that other teams do that end up losing them football games. And it's incredible to watch how they time and time again end up being the more physical team, end up being the better team. And look, I was wrong. I said I thought Bama could keep it close. I didn't think they were going to win necessarily because I don't think, I don't think Bamboo even deserved to be in the playoff for that matter. But that's another conversation. But just from being down there and seeing those players, it's incredible when you look at what they up against every week. And it'll be that way again as they have a rematch now versus Oregon again, they will be outmatched by as far as the, the, the eye test, the look, you know, looking at both teams on the field before the game. But they have constantly overachieved and this is a damn good football team.

Jonas Knox (9:56)

The hit on Ty Simpson where he was scrambling, which was kind of a key moment in because he was going to pick up a first down, I think it was 10 nothing at that point. And it was like, all right, if they could get down and get a score, you know, they get it to one score and then, you know, there's some, you know, they start to feel good about things and he just gets lit and fumbles the ball and you just see the look on his face and it looked like, oh, that's, that's just a different level. Like they're playing. Indiana's playing at a different level than we've seen before. And it Should I just come away from that? Yeah. Really impressed but shocked to see Alabama. I think the stat was it's the first time Alabama has been held without a touchdown in a bowl game since 1960. I mean, they got clowned that wasn't close yesterday. And Indiana just did whatever they wanted to, just whatever they wanted to all game long. Totally exposed them. It was really, really impressive.

Brady Quinn (10:55)

And look, you know, I think we can be critical of some of Alabama. For example, I think on a fourth and one they're running like a jet sweep. It's like, dude, you're Alabama. Like you can't run the football like downhill versus a team that you've got a, I mean, decisive size advantage over on both sides of the ball. I mean, I do feel like Ryan Grubb just gets too cute sometimes with some of the things he does. And it again, credit to Indiana, you know, defensively. And we've talked about this before and obviously Lavar is not here today working with us, but they do something that's like somewhat unique. You don't hear, you know, usually pre snap, a lot of defensive players are assigned to a gap. They allow their defensive front to basically penetrate, you know, get upfield, penetrate, and they allow the backers to fit off of that. And there's elements of that that take place on, on every level. But when you watch them, it's so fluid. They never feel like they're out of position, they never feel like they're out of a gap and they just work together. They do all those little things that like you hear in your tot. And again, credit to Kurt Signetti and credit to the staff. You know, his staff has been with him for such a long period of time that it just, it feels like they have a sense in every phase of how they want to play the game together. Like the offense, defense, special teams, all working in unison. And then they have a quarterback who you know is as efficient, is as accurate, is as tough and gritty at times. I mean, Fernando Mendoza is not one of the better athletes that's going to be on the field, but he finds a way to use his legs to extend plays when something's not there. He finds a way of, you know, not creating a disaster of a play. He gets upfield, he gets what he can. It's positive yardage or back to the line of scrimmage, you know, he throws the football away. I just, the entire group is so impressive. And you know, of all the teams that you look at and say, well everyone else, you know, they, they got a buy. Couldn't figure it out in that quarterfinal round. Not the case for Indiana. Like, like they're taking every narrative and they're throwing it out the window. And I think the, the spin off of this conversation is they're doing this at Indiana. This isn't a blue blood. Like, this is a program that again has been a doormat in college football with a few exceptions throughout its history, besides the past two years, since Kurt Signetti got there and they've turned it around to this. And we can look at other examples. We can look at Vanderbilt, right? Like we can, we can start saying, hey, there's as much parity in college football as ever because of the transfer portal and how that's love the playing field because of nil and how some institutions and some programs have been able to benefit from that and helping to create, you know, more Perry in their roster and some of their top line players. That's part of it too. But it puts a lot of other coaches on notice. Like if those, if those programs have the money to buy out those coaches, what's your excuse? They'll do it.

Jonas Knox (13:56)

Yeah.

Brady Quinn (13:57)

And those guys are feeling, they're feeling like they're on the hot seat right now. And the programs that aren't buying those coaches out probably because they don't have the money That's a tough spot to be in, but Indiana, doing what they've done. To me, I don't know if you agree with this, but I think it's the greatest turnaround in sports, like, not just college football in sports, with what they've been able to do thus far. And if they win it all, it only adds to it. But even just getting to this point, it's incredible.

Jonas Knox (14:28)

Now, Kurt Signetti afterwards, was on with Rhys Davis on the stage after the Rose bowl and was asked about the movie Hoosiers. But he made sure to let people know there's a rallying cry there in Bloomington.

Brady Quinn (14:41)

Who would stark Signetti in the movie? I don't know about that one, but there'd be a lot. There'd be a big cast of characters, because it's all about people. You gotta have the right people on your staff, the right guys in the locker room.

Jonas Knox (14:53)

And we've been very fortunate.

Brady Quinn (14:56)

And these guys buy in. They all think alike. They play like we want them to play. There's been a lot of firsts. It is kind of surreal. There's no doubt about it. I understand why there's been a lot of skeptics, but I only have one thing to say.

Radhi Devlukia (15:08)

Poof.

Brady Quinn (15:12)

And perfectly set.

Jonas Knox (15:14)

Kurt, congratulations.

Brady Quinn (15:17)

Where did this come from, champ? Man, I'm telling you, and I don't say this much, I was obviously down at the Orange bowl yesterday and there before the Oregon Texas Tech game, and there was Indiana fans there. Like, there was Indiana people who dressed up New Year's that were celebrating it in South Florida and just wanted to come to the game. And I guess they're just waiting to keep moving along with Indiana as they go through the playoff. But they have a fan base that is crazy about what this team has accomplished. And there's that saying, like, act like you've been there before. Well, look, let's give Indiana fans, you know, a little room for air here, because they have, like, this is a first. They've never been here before, so they don't know how to act about it. So I'm okay with them wilding out right now. When you see those Indiana fans who are excited about what their team's done.

Jonas Knox (16:00)

Look, I know it's. It's way too early to start talking dynasties and all that stuff with Indiana. They haven't even won one yet. But I'm just saying, in the sense of. Because you pointed out, you know, we're getting like, they've never done anything close to this before. Like, when we grew up, you Know, the Jordan Bulls, you know, that was like the team like everybody loved the Jordan Bulls, but there was a long time before that where they were awful. Like, like they were. And, and so it's hard to imagine in the moment like. Oh really? But you. We were sort of there in the embryonic stages of them developing into this great team and, and, and all of a sudden the history of the team completely changed and it almost feel we're getting to live in the moment of the beginning stages of maybe another powerhouse. And it's kind of cool to watch because yeah, the history of it, they've been so bad for so like the worst so bad for so long and yet here they are and it's two years in a row and they're dominating great programs like Alabama. I think it's a cool opportunity to see something from the beginning stages because look, there's a lot of, you know, and you mentioned and have talked about this before when you walk through the, you know, the Boston. It was at Logan Airport in Boston. They've got all the championship flags there, your in laws. But there was a long time before the Patriots went on that dynasty. They were terrible, terrible. Like a lot of Patriots fans remember that. And there's a, you know, a, a group of Patriots fans now that look around and go all I know for the most part is success. And they're back and, and, and potentially going to make a deep run and maybe have the MVP of the league this year. I think Indiana is in the beginning stages of all this and I think it's really cool to watch because we'll be able to. If this goes the way that it's gone the first two years with Signetti, we'll be able to tell people years down the road. Oh you, you guys have no idea what this was like beforehand. Like enjoy it. Yeah, they're popping up left and right. Maybe there's some insta fans that are, that are jumping around and saying, you know, bringing out all their old Indiana stuff. But I just think it illustrates how desolate things were there for Indiana for so long to where yeah, it was a basketball school and Kurt Signetti's got him rolling, man. It's fun.

Brady Quinn (18:09)

And that's where even like as I was talking with in laws about this because I said, you know, even before the Patriots went on the run of the Belichick, like they'd been to a Super bowl with Parcells and what Tony Easton at quarterback, you know, they experienced like some level of getting to the championship before. Like really the greatness occurred. There was. There's nothing like this. Like, there's been nothing. I mean, Tom Allen had a, what, a nine, 10, one year, whatever it was, or somewhere in that ballpark where he was competitive in Indiana. And hell, it might have been that shit in the COVID year, now that I think about it, when Michael Penix was there and they kind of competed within the Big Ten, but they've never really been able to replicate anything of what they've done these past two years. It's why I keep kind of going back to. I can't think of another really program that has struggled to the degree that Indiana has and has now done this. And I think, look, again, we're only at the semifinal portion of the, of the playoff for the tournament. But the hard thing is they're going to have to start over again at quarterback. Now, his brother, Fernando's brother, Alberto I believe is his first name, he's there as the backup. So I would assume that might be a guy they're looking at or maybe Signetti wants to go back to the portal again because they've, they've kind of lived off of two things and that's some of the players he brought from James Madison with him, but also from Porter, players that he's, you know, has transferred in very similar to Fernando Mendoza coming from Cal. So, you know, in one way that's one of the things that's allowed them to be able to go on this run and build their roster the way they have in the other, you know, part of that is there's going to be times where you miss. And so that's why when you talk about even like mentioning Dynasty, I'm like, dude, this is so hard to do. And especially the way they've done it in some ways early on because there's so much roster turnover and there will be like, this is a team that has players going to get drafted. Like there will be the most players from this roster drafted in Indiana history. And I don't know that it's going to be close. So replacing Mendoza, replacing some of these players, you're going to lose and then trying to come back and do it again, that's, that's the tough part. But, but it feels like Signetti has. And so when you talk to his staff and you talk to like, what would be the equivalent of their front office folks in their scouting department, you know, those guys say, you know, he sits down with all these players and, and he's very, very diligent with how he does film and all these cut ups and different things he does. He's like, so he sees the player, he knows the player what they' capable of. But the secret is he talks to them and he interviews them. And from that singular meeting, when they walk out of the room, their scouting department, he'll kind of give a nod of yes or no. And, and to the point of what he said post game about all these guys buying in, all these guys are on the same page. There is some conversation that occurs and whatever is said back to him, he's able to discern whether or not that person the right fit.

Jonas Knox (21:10)

Wow.

Brady Quinn (21:10)

And I think that's one of the biggest things that stands out to me about just what they've accomplished is. Dude, it's a bunch of, I don't want to say castaways or misfits as they've described themselves, but I look at a guy like Pat Coogan. He was at Notre Dame, he was there somewhat in a backup role, but then got thrusted into a starting role. Was phenomenal at Notre Dame, but he's not there anymore in part because he wasn't going to start this upcoming season. So he transfers to Indiana and now he's a part of the team that's playing in the semifinal, potentially for a national championship. And you look at like a player like that, for example, you know, he obviously has a certain makeup, a certain ability and a huge chip on his shoulder. And I think that's what Kurt Signetti has really found in a lot of these players is at one point they were told they weren't big enough, they weren't fast enough, they weren't good enough, they weren't smart enough. And he's found an edge and he's found a way to use them in the right way where they fit. And I think it's a lesson for like dude life or like a lot of people maybe might be listening who are in a job that they're not, they don't feel appreciated in or they don't feel like they're maximized in. Like, man, you can be passionate as you want about something, but you also have to be in the right place and the right fit for what that place is looking for. And that's one where Indiana is like the case study for that right now. Because it feels like every single person that walks in that program and he brings on his team and he decides to coach and develop, it just seems like the right fit and they're fit for one another.

Jonas Knox (22:35)

If you go to Sports Reference and you just look up Indiana. Just look up the school history. God, they've had some bad years.

Brady Quinn (22:42)

Whoa.

Jonas Knox (22:43)

Like these. And then you pointed this out. I mean it's the first time, the first time they ever won double digit games in a season was last year. Like just, it's crazy in the history of the program. And it's not like they just got here, you know, 20 minutes ago or.

Brady Quinn (22:56)

It'S UConn that's been around football for a long time. Looks like it.

Jonas Knox (23:02)

127 years. Years of Indiana football and we're finally here. So, so good for them. That's been a fun thing to watches. It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. So we are going to do some of the stuff we do from our show on two pros and a cup of Joe, which you can hear Monday through Friday before the Dan Patrick show. We're gonna have another edition of in case you missed it. Coming up later on this hour, we're also going to do our picks against the spread in the NFL for Week 18. Albert Breer is going to stop by later on. We're going to have the left. All of it is yours here on this three hour extravaganza. Up next though, somebody has made things very, very interesting in the world of football and we'll tell you why right here on fsr. But let's talk about our friends at Panini America, the official trading card and NFT partner of the Dan Patrick Show. Panini brings the premier collecting experience with the most coveted cards across the NFL, wnba, College, NASCAR and more. With the NFL playoff picture getting wild, you can hunt for top rookies and breakout stars like T. Mac Ted macmillan. Along with the game's biggest names and legends are the award winning Panini Direct App. Looking for a gift anytime? The Panini Direct app is the best place to grab gifts for collectors of any age. Delivered straight from Panini. Panini is also dominating nil collectibles, showcasing top college names like Julian sand and Arch Manning and headliners like last year's first overall WNBA pick, Paige Beckers and MVP Asia Wilson. If you are into digital collectibles, check out Panini's NFT platform@nft.paniniamerica.net where record breaking sales continue every month and new auctions close daily. Lock in live moments with Panini instant cards made with minutes of iconic plays. Visit paniniamerica.net or download the Panini Direct app. Panini America, the official trading card and nft, partner of the Dan Patrick Show.

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Radhi Devlukia (25:21)

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Jonas Knox (25:24)

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Radhi Devlukia (26:50)

Hi, I'm Radhi Devlukia and I am the host of a really Good Cry podcast. This week I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the Crappy Childhood Fairy, a creator, teacher and guide helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods. We talk about how the things we went through when we were younger can still show up in our adult lives, in our relationships, our reactions, even in the way we feel in our own bodies. And Anna opens up about her own story. What helped her notice the patterns she was stuck in and how she slowly started teaching her body that it is safe now. So when I got attacked, it was very random.

Jonas Knox (27:25)

Four guys jumped out of a car.

Radhi Devlukia (27:27)

And just started beating me and my friend and they broke my jaw, my teeth. I was unconscious. Then I woke up and I screamed and I screamed because even though I didn't know who I was or where I was, something in me was just like, hold on, wait. They could kill me. And I'm not gonna let that happen. I'm not gonna let that happen. I'm gonna get through this. And I did listen to a really good cry on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro, host of the hit podcast Family Secrets.

Brady Quinn (27:54)

We were in the car like a.

Radhi Devlukia (27:56)

Rolling stone came on, and he said.

Jonas Knox (27:58)

There'S a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have.

Radhi Devlukia (28:07)

I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories I'll be holding space for on my upcoming 13th season of Family Secrets. Whether you've been on this journey with me from season one or just joining the Family Secrets family, we're so happy to have you with us. I'll dive deep into the incredible power of secrets, the ones that shape our identities, test our relationships, and ultimately reveal who we truly are. Listen to Family secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know the shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle.

Jonas Knox (29:09)

And, you know, we don't hold back.

Radhi Devlukia (29:11)

So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday, I was going through a walk in my neighborhood.

Jonas Knox (29:19)

Out of the blue, I see this.

Radhi Devlukia (29:20)

Huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay, the sign says, my neighbor is a Karen. No way.

Jonas Knox (29:34)

I died laughing.

Radhi Devlukia (29:37)

I'm like, I have. You are lying.

Jonas Knox (29:41)

Humongous, y'.

Brady Quinn (29:42)

All.

Radhi Devlukia (29:43)

They had some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Kelly, and some of you may know me as Laura Winslow. And I'm Telma, also known as Aunt Rachel. If those names ring a bell, then you probably are familiar with the show that we were both on back in the 90s called family. Matt, Kelly and I have done a lot of things and played a lot of roles over the years. But both of us are just so proud to have been part of family matters.

Jonas Knox (30:15)

Did you know that we are one.

Radhi Devlukia (30:16)

Of the longest running sitcoms with a black cast? When we were making the show, there were so many moments filled with joy and laughter and cut up that I will never forget. Oh, girl, you got that right. The look that you all give me is so black. All black people know about the look. On each episode of welcome to the Family, we'll share personal reflections about making the show. Yeah, we'll even bring in part of the cast and some other special guests to join in the fun and spill some tea. Listen to welcome to the Family with Telma and Kelly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Jonas Knox (30:54)

It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. And right now it is time for the tire rack play of the day. First and 10 for the 13. Good first play fake on a handoff. He's throwing one on one toward the end zone. It's gonna be caught in the right corner of the end zone. Trey Wallace and ole Miss extends the lead. David Kellum at Learfield on the call. That is your tire rack play of the day. For over 40 years, Tirex been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where shipped fast and free. Backed by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation. Tirerack.com the way tire buying should be. We are going to have another edition of in case you missed it coming up here in a little over 15 minutes from now. Yeah, but that was another one I didn't expect. Was the ole Miss doing what they did at the Sugar bowl last night? Trinidad Cham from Ferris State to the yeah, he was great man. Like, like was was the best player on the field in the second half of that game. That was really, really.

Brady Quinn (32:02)

He was making plays the entire game. I mean there was a back to back series of scrambles that were as good as I've seen this entire season in college football. Like his little kind of backing out of the pocket, scrambling back as deep in his own territory and just flipping it out to the flat. That was followed by a very similar move with a big completion downfield. Although it ended in a bit of an injury. But, but you know he's he to me and been watching him this year. I wasn't sure based on how ole Miss started the season, you know, if, if he would be able to kind of take over and be the guy he has been everything as advertised. And I think, look, the win, it's a huge moment for Pete Golding, who helped take over this team and stabilize it. It's a credit to the coaches who came back and wanted to coach because clearly there's a rift there and, you know, they had to plead with Lane Kiffin to do so. But it's also kind of a sad moment where you think about the fact that that's one of the. This is a team that's overcome so many distractions to be able to make it to this point, potentially not even play for a national championship. And their head coaches has moved on. And I'm not here to, like, you know, cast blame on Lane Kiff or anything else. I think it's a greater issue of the college football calendar that Dan Lanning actually drew a lot of attention to in his press conference before the Orange bowl and saying, like, this whole schedule needs to be revamped. You know, even if we have to move up the regular season to week zero, the fact that we have a coach who's moved on their team now is playing the semifinal is an example of, like, we shouldn't have to be doing that. The portal window opens today. There's still four teams playing for a national championship. And there's players on those teams who know they may not be playing next year in their current position and have to make a decision at some point here soon whether or not they're going to transfer. That's putting them in a terrible position. That's putting coaches who are coaching right now at Ole Miss. And there's some uncertainty of whether or not some of those assistant coaches who have been with Ole Miss but are going to be eventually at LSU are going to even continue to coach.

Jonas Knox (34:07)

Yeah.

Brady Quinn (34:07)

As this thing draws even closer. So it just. The entire thing is a bit of a mess. And as much as it's amazing to see what Ole Miss has done, it also kind of highlights a little bit of the issues that we're facing. College football.

Radhi Devlukia (34:19)

Football.

Jonas Knox (34:20)

So this from espn. With the portal opening obviously today, the Rebels aren't certain that they will have all of those assistance that have helped them and helped them last night in the Sugar Bowl. They're not sure if they'll have all those assistance with the team when they play the Hurricanes in six days. A source said some of the assistants have apparently pushed back on leaving an Ole Miss team that is two victories away from winning a national championship. Quote, there are going to be some fireworks An Ole Miss source told espn. We always knew this might be a possibility. So, I mean, how, how, how could you leave? And if you're Lane Kiffin, what you're getting paid, dude, like, he's getting his, he's getting his share, but I get it. He's got to look for, look out for the betterment of, of his future at lsu. It just, it feels like this was maybe the worst, other than the financial aspect, the worst outcome for LSU and Lane Kiffin, because now you look like, you look like kind of an a hole if you tell those guys they got to come back after what's gone on and these kids getting this close to potentially winning a national championship.

Brady Quinn (35:33)

I'll be honest with you, I don't really care about the scenario for LSU and Lane Kiffin. Like, he made his decision. He chose to leave. Like, my, my, you know, concern is more for Ole Miss if they can kind of keep this thing going. And hopefully those assistant coaches who are there and I'll just say this, Charlie Weiss Jr. Who I've known since he was a young, young boy, I'm just so impressed with what he's grown into as a coach. The way he took on one of the top defensive minds in Kirby Smart and his staff and the job he did the entire game. It felt like Ole Miss was moving the football. They, they had this flow to it and a rhythm to their offense, and they were always one step ahead. You don't see that very often versus Georgia defense or a Kirby Smart coach team. And this was a scenario where I'm watching it going, dude, this is, this is like a master class right now at times. And meanwhile, Georgia and Mike Boba, it's like they couldn't find anything, anything that they could kind of hang their hat on with consistency. And I don't know if you want to say, you know, credit against Pete Golding, the defense, the job they did too, in that respect. But it felt like Gunner Stockton was a bit off. He never felt overly, didn't seem like he was overly comfortable. He had to scramble, run around, make a bunch of plays. I mean, he took some shots in this game, but this was not the Georgia team I thought we were going to see. But also, this is, this has been a little bit of a byproduct of a lot of the narrative around the sec. The SEC has kind of pushed up the team that they thought was their best team and had the best chance. Because if you really looked at Ole Miss's resume getting into the playoff, they only played four Teams with a winning record this season, it wasn't like they went through murders row and they yet were still in as a six seed and obviously had a layup in their first round game. But this was more of a true prove it moment. And so congrats to the players and coaches. I hope they stay on. I hope someone talks sense in the lane Kiff. And he just says, look, man, I'm not making these guys come back. We can recruit, we can do what we need to do, you know, and have those guys be afar through the transfer portal, you know, during this period of, you know, this time of year. Like, we don't need them to be back yet. They can go finish the job they're doing, and if they win a national championship, so be it. Like, they'll bring that with them when they come to lsu, that, that experience and that on the resume.

Jonas Knox (37:49)

Pete Golding, the Ole Miss coach, spoke afterwards about the wild month that it's been for the program.

Radhi Devlukia (37:56)

Coach, you called this last month a roller coaster.

Jonas Knox (37:58)

Yeah.

Brady Quinn (37:59)

How did your team and you overcome all of this to become Sugar bowl champions? I mean, I think we got a great group of people in our building. I think it starts with our administration, with Glenn Boyce and, you know, our.

Jonas Knox (38:08)

Athletic director, Keith Carter. And we got a lot of good.

Brady Quinn (38:11)

Coaches in that building, you know, and a lot of guys are going through a lot of things, but they've been here for the kids the whole time. You know, that's a special group of kids.

Jonas Knox (38:17)

That Cajun came out there, you know, he felt the old stomping grounds. He felt. Felt the old, the old Cajun accent came out there. But it was pretty cool to see his son. Did you see how fired up his son was coming out with him? Like, pregame? Like, his son looked like he was jacked, ready to light somebody up. I think. I think it's an awesome storyline. It's. It's kind of why I think there was probably a lot of people rooting for this to happen just to see how this goes. The way Lane Kiffin left, I think didn't sit right with a lot of people, the way the whole thing played out. And so I, I guess the report IS Charlie Weiss Jr. Is going to stay on, but they're not sure about the other assistants. Just let him stay, dude. Like, let him finish this thing out. If it goes one game, two more games, you're almost at the end. It. It would be a really fun story to add on to the crazy, crazy circumstances that led to them in this spot. To begin with, like, it feels like a no brainer.

Brady Quinn (39:10)

I knew the line was at, you know, six and a half. I'm not sure if anyone could ever, you know, had. Had if they had, you know, that number and anything other than.

Jonas Knox (39:18)

I don't, I don't even want to talk about.

Brady Quinn (39:20)

But the way that game finished, I mean, someone, someone's on the, on the wrong side of, of that finish. That bad beat. Pete Prisco is siding with someone on that one. That is unbelievable.

Radhi Devlukia (39:32)

Yeah.

Jonas Knox (39:32)

Can they. What was going on there? Like, nobody could figure out whether or not like the game was actually over. It wasn't over. And then they do an, you know, a free onside kick and Ole Miss doesn't touch it. So it's recovered and, and it, and it gives Georgia another chance. If Georgia would have won that game, which, you know, based on the play, you know, they chose in that spot, wasn't going to happen, but if they would have won that game, that, that's the all time classic gag job that we've seen. All time classic.

Brady Quinn (40:01)

But just the fact them down 10 in the fourth with nine minutes left to come back, you know, made it more at least entertaining. I mean, that was the, that was the game that I think we all kind of needed after watching the games earlier in the day that were just not competitive by any means. I mean, it was, it was, it was tough to watch. And look, I think it even draws more attention to the involvement of the group of six teams. And hey, look at James Madison. Look at what they did in Oregon's, you know, home stadium, you know, versus that defense. You know, that was a. Even though it wasn't a tight game in the first half, at least there was a bit more production, you know, too. And you saw more scoring in the second half. So there's a lot of conversations to be had. I think big picture. The toughest thing for me is, and this kind of goes back to, you know, just looking at the resumes of some of the teams is we now for the third straight year have two teams from the Big Ten who are playing the semifinals. We're going to have a third straight year of the Big Ten, guaranteed to have a team in it playing for the national championship. And I just think the narratives surrounding the sec, which got five teams in, it's got to change at some point where people stop realizing that outside of a couple of teams. And then, by the way, this goes for the Big Ten too, but outside of a handful of teams like everyone else is pretty much the same like it just, they are. And us acting like going through the eight game conference schedule the SEC goes through is such a gauntlet. It's not any more of a gauntlet than the nine games that the Big Ten goes through through. And we're seeing that in real time. It's a more physical brand of football. There are better defenses in the Big Ten. You know, one of the things that's kind of flown under the radar is obviously the running clock as you compare, you know, the point totals and production. Like a lot of people made this comment about the Heisman Trophy ceremony saying, well, like, look at these guys. None of these guys are putting up the stats that we used to have. Well, the clock has run different now too. You know, you've got a running clock in more scenarios that's closer to the NFL style. So the games are tighter and in tighter games, less possessions with less possessions, less opportunities to score. And obviously teams aren't playing with the quarterback communication as fast as they once were, where they're just signaling it in and playing at warp speed, they'll still do tempo every once in a while, but it's not as fast. So you get lower scoring, tighter games. Which kind of has been Big Ten football. Yeah, but now with the parody of the transfer portal and nil and everything else, you're just, you're seeing a transition from what was the S.E.C. as you pointed out, to more of the Big Ten. You know, that's, that's, that's where we're at now. Like that conference is kind of leading the way. And especially if they win a third straight national championship, there should be more of a conversation about some of those at large bids. And I would even say this, like, hopefully after this year there's more of a conversation about expansion and going to 16 teams so we don't have to have a conversation about, hey, these teams off buys can't score. I mean, obviously Indiana is the only one that's been able to prove that wrong. But you know, that's, that's another narrative that's out there that will be a large piece of the discussion in the offseason.

Jonas Knox (43:12)

As somebody who worked in SEC country and I loved it, it made me appreciate and love college football even more. I do kind of like the idea of SEC ball washers kicking and screaming while being pulled to reality that, hey, it's changed, man. It's no longer the dominant conference it once was. It's no longer, you no longer have this significant lead over anybody else, if any lead at all. Like things have changed. And I just like the idea of the defiance and the unwillingness to just recognize that it's no longer your sport and everybody else is just a part of it, that things have changed in college football. I kind like that. Maybe. Call me sick in the head, I kind of like it. It's fine.

Brady Quinn (44:01)

It's only. It's only going to get better. I mean, think about Matt Campbell taking over at Penn State. Think about Pat Fitzgerald taking over at Michigan State. You know, you add Chip Kelly to David Braun's team in Northwestern, like, everyone wants to be all Northwestern, bro. Go back and look how competitive they are in some of those games. Like, that's a team that. I mean, they need a few playmakers, but they're not as far off either. And then again, people can laugh at that all they want. They probably don't watch the film. They probably haven't watched some of these teams and how they play. I mean, they gave Michigan all they could handle this year. And you just watch Michigan and Texas, right? The 9, 3 team that should have gotten in, right, that just barely beat Michigan. Arch played great. But watching that game, you're going, well. Michigan had struggled versus Northwestern. I wonder what Northwestern, Texas would look like. Again, there's more parity in college football than we'd like to admit. And that's the bottom line.

Jonas Knox (44:51)

That's good.

Brady Quinn (44:52)

I think we. We've seen. Which is great. It's great for the sport. But. But the hard part is when you get to these. The tournament format, it then leads to these narratives around, well, Texas Tech didn't deserve to be there. It's like, yes, they did all right. They were dominant this year. They rolled out the ball and had one of the worst games of the season. And that happens. You know, Alabama clearly didn't play up to their standards, but that was also a team that was probably on a downhill trajectory. We watched in the SEC championship game, we watched them struggle to beat Auburn. I mean, the. The signs were there, unfortunately, the committee. And then again, this is a conversation for another segment, but the committee just didn't want to see it. And again, in part because we're a bit blinded by the past and the history and no different than me being wrong about, hey, take the points in Bama. Like they can keep this close. I mean, every. Like looking at that line going, man, Bama, like they're a touchdown or more underdog, like there's no way. But that's. That's part of even my own, you know, bias. And looking at history and tradition and seeing these teams up close on the field and all that and not, you know, instead looking at what I've watched on tape all year with Indiana's the, the best team wire to wire on tape all year.

Jonas Knox (46:00)

I mean, don't, don't be so hard on yourself. We've got 125 years of bad football as evidence. I think there was enough there to, to go, you know, that's, that's way too big of a line. Yeah, it's just, it's just, Yeah, I think it's, there's more parody and I think it's, I think it's great for the sport. It's going to be fun because conversations have got to start to change. It is the damn show here on Fox Sports radio. Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for Dan and the guys coming up next here though, we're going to have something we do on our show. It's called in case you missed it and it's yours here on fsr.

Brady Quinn (46:29)

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Brady Quinn (47:36)

Speak. Hey, yo, my guys. What up, Brady? What up, Jonas? I love doing the fake air horn noises.

Jonas Knox (47:48)

So good.

Brady Quinn (47:49)

I'm stupid. It's silly. But whatever. It's great. It's great. You know, you're great, Brady. You're great, Jonas. Let's go. It's in case you missed the time, guys. Well, in case you did Miss it here, guys. Troy Aikman, we all know and love Troy Aikman on, on the broadcast, you.

Jonas Knox (48:03)

Know, former NFL great, right?

Brady Quinn (48:05)

Well, he's gonna be right, exactly.

Jonas Knox (48:08)

Never heard of.

Brady Quinn (48:09)

Well, he's gonna have a little bit more on his plate here, guys. He's going to advise the Miami Dolphins on their GM search. He's been brought aboard as a consultant, everybody. It's not permanent, but he's helping them find their next Dolphins general manager.

Jonas Knox (48:27)

Apparently. Apparently the Cowboys don't need his help. They got everything covered. You know, we got it. We got it here.

Brady Quinn (48:33)

I do wonder how this sits with old Jerry Jones.

Jonas Knox (48:38)

Like that ought to take because Troy Aikman's been very openly critical of Jerry Jones, especially in the last couple of years.

Brady Quinn (48:45)

Well, the other part of this conversation is, you know, you've got a former Dallas Cowboy, great, a Pro Football hall of Famer. Well, not. You don't want Dan Marino. I was just with Dan yesterday. You know, I'm sure he would be glad to help out the organization that regard. Now, I would say maybe because of what Troy is doing now, being in the broadcast booth and people can take issue with this whether or not they want, but when you are on tv, when you're in the broadcast booth, you tend to run into a lot more people who are probably suited for that job. And you talk to a lot of different organizations. You talk to the ownership groups, the front office people again, the coaching staff, players. You've got a feel for all of it. So bringing him on in a sense and getting his perspective on all of it, it's probably wise. It's just interesting to me that, that, you know, again, and I don't know what that group looks like that's helped to make this decision, but, you know, there's a lot of great Miami Dolphins player, you know, players or former players that are down there that could probably help out. I mean, that Moore, he's a guy who serves on the Orange bowl committee with me. He's another one that I'm sure would love to be involved in that process.

Jonas Knox (49:50)

I mean, Jay Fiedler, Cleo Lemon, like.

Brady Quinn (49:53)

Come on, right now, now you're just.

Jonas Knox (49:55)

Sage Rosenfels wasn't Sage Rosen Rosenfels. I mean, come on, man.

Brady Quinn (49:59)

Sage was down there. Sage was down there. The all time greatest, you know, finding a way to, to get released and get another team.

Jonas Knox (50:06)

That story, buddy, do you have time.

Brady Quinn (50:08)

To tell them before we get the break? We don't have enough time. What else we got, man? All right, so what else we got? Well, Lamar Jackson is back. He's actually gone on to say, yeah, 100 I'm gonna be out there. And he even told people I never quit on my team. He didn't know where that noise came from. And when asked if he could, he fell asleep in meetings. Do you think Harbaugh would let me do that? That's what happened. I mean, Jonas, you were the most critical. What's your comment?

Jonas Knox (50:32)

What's he going to say? Yeah, it dozed off for a few minutes. Yeah, yeah, so what? Of course he's going to push back on it. I just don't believe a story with that much detail. Just came up out of thin air.

Radhi Devlukia (50:43)

Right.

Jonas Knox (50:44)

So I do think there's some validity there. What do you think about that? Our two next this is an I Heart podcast.

Radhi Devlukia (50:52)

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