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Jerry Jones
I have agreed to give more money than has ever been given in terms of guaranteed money than anyone ever has as far as a defensive player. Mike has got three years with the Cowboys left. At some point, somebody has to have the say over the other. My job is managing the check. Mike has got to do the play. What is the least incremental part of the whole equation? The attorney or the agent? He works for Micah.
Dan Patrick
Okay. He tried to backdoor the negotiations by excluding Micah Parsons agent and going to Micah. You're not allowed to do that. And he admitted doing that. Whereas years ago, he would go to the agents and then he would negotiate. Now he wants to take the agents out. He wants to talk to the player. Here is Jerry Jones talking about Micah Parsons agent screwing things up?
Jerry Jones
We wanted to send the details to the agent. The agent sold us to wrap our ass. Mike and I talked, and then we were going to send it over to the agent. And we had our agreements on term amount guarantees, everything. We were going to send it over to the agent, and the agent said, don't bother, because we've got all that to negotiate. Well, we've got this thing resolved in my mind for the Dallas Cowboys, and we've got it done. And if the agent wants to finish up the detail, which is should, and we're ready to go. But as far as the amount of money, the years, the guarantees, all of that, we negotiate.
Dan Patrick
Okay, can we go back to the beginning of that? Because did we bleep out the wrong thing? Did we. We believe stick instead of ass. Okay, Marvin, can you just play the beginning?
Jerry Jones
We wanted to send the details to the agent. The agents told us to up our ass.
Dan Patrick
Wait, wait. Okay. It makes it sound like he said something really bad leading up to bleep it up your ass.
Devin
That's hilarious.
Dan Patrick
Marvin, did you do the bleeping here?
Devin
No, I didn't touch this.
Dan Patrick
Okay, way to shift it. Play it one more time.
Jerry Jones
We wanted to send the details to the agent. The agents told us to up our ass.
Dan Patrick
Okay, Paulie, you're the executive producer here.
Paulie
I think that the back room was trying to downplay the act of the phrase by getting rid of the word stick. And the word ass really is not a big deal on national radio. I think that's what they were doing.
Dan Patrick
Stick isn't either.
Paulie
Right. But they. By getting rid of the word stick, you kind of dumb down the action that's being described by.
Dan Patrick
Well, now I really, you know, I was like, wait a minute. What did he say? And then I saw it was written out, and it said, you know, stick it up, you know, my ass. And I'm thinking we just bleeped out stick. Yes, seaton. It's like pixelating someone's belly button and not their genitals. That's essentially what we just did, which.
Paulie
We may have done.
Dan Patrick
This is why we don't win a sports. You know, this is why Paulie's going and checking with the back room guys. Oh, there's gonna be BLEEP to pay. Paulie's gonna tell them to bleep it up their ass. What's the poll question today? I'm wondering if we actually did that in house or not. It was just downloaded that way, I hope. Did it come like that? Polly, we go to the newsroom for an Eye investigation. The motto of our news team is, if good journalism is wrong, well, then we don't want to be right. Let's go to the newsroom.
Devin
Paulie.
Paulie
We're calling it Assgate. Dan. The I team just went back, and the entire BRG conglomerate, all of them, said, we had nothing to do with that. We didn't edit it. Tweet, do anything to it. Marvin said he did not edit it, so it may have come to us in that fashion. Marvin.
Devin
That's exactly how it came to us.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Devin
On my son.
Dan Patrick
Oh, you don't have that. Serious. Yeah. Oh, see, I'm gonna swear on your bleep. I swear.
Devin
My bleep.
Dan Patrick
Where did it come from, that piece of sound?
Devin
It came from bleep. No, it came from, like, our I heart sends us okay sound every single day. So that's where I got it from. And so. And it was funnier this way, was it not?
Paulie
Fair point.
Dan Patrick
Well, I'm listening to it, and I'm not even hearing the rest of what Jerry's saying. I'm only hearing about, wait a minute. What did we just bleep out if we didn't bleep out? Ass. Okay. We're just getting started here. I just want to roll with this all the time. Listening. And he told us to bleep it apart. Here's one from Paul, who had the wonkiest career, might I also say, made perhaps the choppiest career. Oh, that's Paulie's. Great description. Love it. Steve Young, Kurt Warner, Nick Foles, other.
Paulie
Okay, this is based on.
Dan Patrick
That's an interesting list. Yeah, really is.
Paulie
It's based on Steve Young's career. Steve Young was a first Ballot hall of Fame quarterback without making a Pro bowl or All Pro before the age of 30. Including the age of 30. He did all his work from 31 to 37. That is as unique as it gets in sports. We're actually looking for a comp. Nick Foles. Nick Foles made a pro ball at age 24. He had 27 touchdowns and two picks for Philly with the Chip Kelly era. Then he bounced around the league, five different teams. And then he was a Super Bowl MVP against Tom Brady. That's his career, two things. And then Kurt Warner takes a while to get in the league. Starts at age 27, becomes an MVP and wins a Super bowl at the Rams. Bounces around injury to the hand. And then he takes the Arizona Cardinals close to a Super bowl victory. Most wonky.
Dan Patrick
Well, we saw Kurt Warner do something incredible with the greatest show on turf and then he was a backup to Eli. And then to take the Cardinals to the Super Bowl, I mean, that's a big turnaround for somebody that we thought his career was over. I don't know if we expected anything out of Nick Foles. He had the one year with Chip Kelly and that was a great year. But then you go from that to being the super bowl mvp. Steve Young had a lot of talent. He was in the usfl. I think one of the great athletes we've had at that position. But 30 years of age, 31 years of age to become a Pro bowl quarterback, that's pretty remarkable. I don't know. Has anybody ever gone into the hall of Fame not making a Pro bowl or an all? Probably before they were 31 years of age. And unless it's a kicker, I don't know if there's anybody else that would have followed that, that formula. Yeah, Paul, we're looking it up because.
Paulie
Most guys do most of their damage from age 25 to 30. Pro Bowls, all Pros and their resume. The one that I thought might be in there would be Roger Staubach of the Cowboys, because I don't think he started playing to age 27, and he didn't really get the starting job. I just looked it up. Roger Staubach's first Pro Bowl All Pro. He was 29 years old, his first year as a full time starter with the Cowboys. And then from age 33 to 37, he was a Pro bowl every year. He's close.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, that's a good comp. Because Roger was splitting time with Craig Morton.
Paulie
Correct.
Dan Patrick
And you wonder Roger Staubach and Steve Young were similar. They were really Athletic quarterbacks, one right handed, one left handed. Roger had the military commitment at Navy, and Steve bounced around. He had played in the usfl. He was with Tampa. But the fact that the Niners trade for him and he sits for four years, four years behind Joe Montana. You wonder what he would have been like if he was playing at 24, 25. And you wonder with Roger Staubach if he started playing. What if Steve Young does not get traded to the Niners? What if Joe Montana doesn't get traded to the Kansas City Chiefs? Wow. You know, the sports is filled with these kind of stories, like, if that doesn't happen, then that doesn't happen. But we'll talk to Steve Young a little bit later on and Mark Schlar will join us. Coming up, NFL and Fox analyst, former Denver Bronco offensive lineman. What other poll question are we entertaining today? Seaton? Yeah, we're running with that one hour one. We're also going to put up a second poll question. Is a better word to describe their career as wonky or choppy? Because that. That is part due. Okay. Paulie loves him some choppy.
Paulie
Yeah, it might be choppy because Nick Foles, early greatness, late greatness. Kurt Warner, early greatness, late greatness.
Dan Patrick
They're all interesting people in their own right. Yeah. All right. Would you rather have Steve Young's career or John Fogerty?
Paulie
Oh, that old question.
Dan Patrick
I'm gonna have to take John Fogarty. He's 80 and he's still playing. And he's in a few. He's in a few hall of Fames. He's in the Songwriting hall of Fame. He's in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. And now his baseball bat shaped guitar and the song center field going into the baseball hall of Fame. Yes, Marvin.
Devin
But I'm sure Steve Young's in a few hall of Fames himself.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Devin
Greenwich High hall of fame, BYU.
Dan Patrick
Okay, Mr. 49er defender here. Okay.
Devin
I'm not saying that because he's my favorite quarterback ever.
Dan Patrick
I didn't. Yes, Paul.
Paulie
Dan, you're gonna love this. We're gonna do the quick Steve Young game if you have time for it.
Dan Patrick
Sure.
Paulie
Other than Steve Young, there's only one other quarterback who didn't make a Pro bowl till after the age 30 and got into the hall of Fame.
Dan Patrick
Modern era.
Paulie
Modern era. 80s 90s guy. And remember, there's a reason he wasn't in the NFL early in his career. Wasn't even in the NFL. There's the hint.
Dan Patrick
So Jim Kelly.
Paulie
Nope. But that's a good guess.
Dan Patrick
Warren Moon.
Paulie
Warren Moon is correct. Warren Moon played seven years in Canada. He joined Houston but didn't make the Houston Oilers. He didn't make a Pro bowl till age 32 and then made nine straight.
Dan Patrick
All right, let's take a break. We settle on our poll question. I believe phone lines are jammed, so we'll get to phone calls as well to meet Friday. Morale is extremely high. Well, let me check in with Todd.
Devin
Morale is extremely high.
Dan Patrick
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Devin
That's very kind.
Dan Patrick
Thank you. By the way, I'll give you my review of the Dallas Cowboy documentary on Netflix. I'll have that for you coming up as well. Take a break. We'll come back with Mark Schlerith of Fox and we'll do so after this.
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Morning, fellas. How are you?
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Great. Good.
Ty
Hey, I just wanted to confirm and vouch for your back row guys that clip from Jerry Jones I heard yesterday here in Las Vegas Yesterday at around 3:30 in the afternoon and they bleeped out the same phrase and I was wondering what was so offensive with stick. But I can vouch for your boys. You're still in the running for an SB.
Dan Patrick
Thank you. An ESPY. I'd take an SB2. I got a better chance of winning an Academy Award. Eric in la. Hi, Eric.
Ty
Tp, what's up? Yeah, I'm doubling down on the IT investigation report here on. On our stick bleeping. Okay, so I had a lot of windshield time yesterday. You guys are on AM570 in SoCal. A bunch of the other national broadcast folks. We're laughing about the same thing. Why did we bloop out Stick? I'm listening to Jason Smith and Harmon yesterday evening. They're laughing about it in real time. They bring on the kid. I'm gonna forget his name, but the kid who was doing editing for Cavino and Rich figured out that the act itself is what is going to be questionable for the. The comms legal folks. So they went ahead and went with stick instead of ass. And there we have it.
Dan Patrick
All right, thank you, thank you. But we have reporters, part of our I team, all over the world here. Marvin, play that. You know, once again, for context, before we get to Mark Schlieren, here's Jerry Jones.
Jerry Jones
We wanted to send the details to the agent the agent sold us to.
Dan Patrick
We make the smooth segue to Mark Slearith, NFL on Fox analyst, three time super bowl champ, working with renegade fantasy follow that stink.
Devin
Yeah, well, you know what? I can't follow that. But stink is appropriate for. For that comment. So we're good. By the way, your SP comment had me cracking up. I can't wait to see you get an Academy Award. It's gonna be awesome.
Dan Patrick
Dp yeah. When does the Micah Parsons situation get your full attention?
Devin
When he starts missing games.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Devin
I mean, this is, this is so standard for Jerry Jones, the standard operating procedure when it comes to Micah Parsons, because you wait till the last second to get your quarterback done. Dak Prescott, you wait till the last second to get, you know, to get your wide receiver done. And so CD Lamb. So the bottom line is this is the way they operate as a business, but this is also the reason that things have gone awry. Why you haven't won a divisional playoff round game since 1995. Because if you do it to these guys, it creates a locker room full, in my opinion, of independent contractors. You're like, if you're going to take your stars and you're going to rake them over the coals and you're going to essentially, you know, give out some fake money contracts and report that Dak Prescott is the highest going to be the highest paid guy in the history of football, and, you know, some of the details in there are faulty and he turns it down, will you turn your fan base against your players. Your players look at the management and say, what are we doing here? You knew the Michael Parsons Dan was a. You knew he was a bonafide superstar from his rookie year. And the fact that you wait and you wait and you wait, it keeps you out of free agency. It keeps you out of doing the things that you need to do as a football franchise to have a legitimate chance, in my opinion, to win a championship. And so it's, it's just the Dallas Cowboy way I said it on my podcast, the stinking Truth podcast, they are the Jacksonville Jaguars with better marketing. That's what the Dallas Cowboys are.
Dan Patrick
If Jerry had actually relinquished the GM job, would they have been better? Would they have competed for champion? Would they have won championships in the last 30 years?
Devin
Yeah, because I think they have. I think they've done a great job drafting. I think they are a really good, you know, really good football team. But there's more to it than that. Like when, when your owner is the guy that's circumventing the authority of the coach or the people that are in place, eventually that comes back to bite you. And ultimately for them, it's bitten them in the playoffs and those things, you know, it's hard to quantify and it's hard to put numbers on it. But I'm just telling you, when you have a back staircase to the owner's office and if you don't like something going on within the organization as a player, you can go up there and talk to them about it. That is a, that, that is not the way the structure is supposed to happen in an NFL franchise. And eventually it bites you.
Dan Patrick
I always wonder about these holdout or hold ins and how that affects the locker room, because to me, if I'm a Cowboy fan, I think this is going to get done. But what is the leftover acrimony? If there is, they're going to agree to a deal, he'll get 45 million, they'll hug, laugh, press conference, he'll be ready to go against the Eagles opening night. But I just don't know if there's spillover. And you know, as long as you played and granted it's a different NFL now, but does it, does it bleed into the locker room and if so, what does it do?
Devin
Yeah, I just think that to win, to have a championship kind of caliber organization, you have the right culture to have that and we talk about that all the time, but it's real right to have the, the kind of, hey, we're going to sacrifice for Each other. We're going to play for one another. We're going to do those things. When there's some acrimony within that locker room, and ultimately you're right, you know, they'll agree to terms, they'll shake it out, they'll hug everybody, be happy. But inside that locker room, man, you kind of pick sides and ultimately as a player and you know, I'm never, I was never a superstar, you know, I'm not, I'm not one of those guys that, you know, that commands that kind of attention. But you got to remember that there's probably only three or four of those guys on each team. You know, the other 50 guys, 49 guys are me. And you start looking at it from the standpoint of, hey, man, if they're going to do it to the superstar that's done everything the right way, the guy that came in here from the rookie year on and has played multiple positions, played inside, played outside, we've moved him around and he has just thrived and he is, and he has created opportunity for us as a defense and he's done everything the right way. And you're going to kind of rake him over the coals or you're going to make you're slow play this thing with him. Then what's going to happen when I'm a free agent? What's going to happen when I need a new contract? What's going to happen to us? And I just think it creates animosity between, you know, the locker room downstairs and the front office upstairs. And that's a bad way to have a franchise like, to be able to compete in this league.
Dan Patrick
Talking to Mark Schlerith, NFL on Fox analyst, I'm looking at the holdout with Cincinnati, with Trey hendrickson and Terry McLaurin with Washington. Which one will have a bigger impact if they're not ready to go week one?
Devin
I think the McLaurin McLaren is just a guy that's going to get 1200 yards regardless who, who the quarterback is. And it's funny, when you do Washington games, you know, when you travel around to do a Washington game, you talk to other defensive coordinators around the league. The, the number one priority nine times out of ten is how are we going to shut that guy down, how are we going to slow McLaurin down? And so he's not only that guy for Washington, but he's also that dude that when you talk to him and he, he let just lights up a room. You know, the, the old saying of there's two Types of people in the world, those who light up a room when they go walk into it, and those who light up a room when they walk out of it. He lights up the room when he walks into it. Right. He is just a guy that brings energy, brings excitement, guy that's super respected within that locker room and within that community. So that guy, to me, makes a huge difference. Listen, Trey Hendrickson is a phenomenal football player. Love watching him play. But in Cincinnati, the one thing they want to do is they want to sit back in shotgun and throw the football. And like, the way they are built, the way they are constructed, they're going to try to outscore people. That's what they did last year. Their offensive coordinator came out this offseason, said, hey, we just got to outscore people. And I thought to myself, how'd that work for you last year? It's the. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Because the way they're constructed, they're not a playoff team. They're wasting Joe Burrow because they. They basically make him play the entirety of four quarters on a high dive, and ultimately, that's a recipe for disaster. And you got to take that guy off the high dive occasionally. You got to give him opportunities just to take a breather, and they never do. It's all on Joe Burrow 247 in Cincinnati. So whether they sign Hendrickson or not, that's not going to change the philosophy of how they play.
Dan Patrick
I'm always curious how, you know, former players, analysts read what a rookie quarterback does in the preseason, because this is what I hear. Well, it's preseason or, hey, did you see Jackson dart light it up? And then I go, well, wait a minute. It's just pre C. Like, when does it matter and when does it not matter? With Shador Sanders look really good. Jackson dart has looked really good. I, you know, Jalen Milroe, I don't know what is real and not real, so help me out.
Devin
Yeah, I think that. I think that, you know, I always say this, and I think I probably stole it from John lynch, but the preseason doesn't count. But it does matter. It matters how you play. It matters the attitude you have. It matters how you go out there and execute. And so ultimately, the preseason is the base of what you do. So if you're talking about the structure of an offense, for instance, here is what we are. Now, as you get into the season, you build on that base, correct? Like, you add plays that go with certain plays, right? You have adjunct plays based on what the defense does. So you're adding to that playbook. But the base of what you're going to do is what you execute in preseason. And if you're good at that base stuff, I mean I won back to back championships in Denver. We ran six plays. Now we did it at a lot of different formations, a lot of personnel groupings and all that stuff. So that requires the quarterback to have more on his plate and you know, to orchestrate the motions and the shifts and all that stuff. But the bottom line, if you're good at your base stuff, everything builds off of that. And so for J. Jackson Dart or Shador Sanders, if you can execute the base stuff well, if we're really good at that, you know, it's like the 10,000 hour rule. It's we've done this as an offense 10,000 times. You've defended it a hundred times. We're better than you and we know it and we're just going to go out and out execute you. You can have success as a rookie. Now if you have to trick everything up Dan, because you're not very good and you have to out scheme people well, then you fall into trouble, right? That, that's when, when you can't just line up and say, hey man, we, we're really good at these five things and we can execute these five things and build off of those. Well, if you can't do that, then you're going to be in trouble. But if your rookie quarterback can execute those things, I think you're all right. I think you can move forward.
Dan Patrick
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Devin
Yeah, yeah, that exactly right. They say, hey listen man, if you're a victim, right, don't play this game, right? If you want to blame somebody else, if you want to blame the running back for not having a great game, you know, and you want to have an excuse for not winning your fantasy league, then this is not the league for you. But if you're a responsibility taker, right, and you say, hey, my running back is sucking hind, you know what, we're going to move on from him and we're going to bench him in the first quarter and bring somebody else on, or if your quarterback gets injured on the fourth play of the game, like having to Aaron Rodgers a couple years ago, well, yeah, you bring your backup in, you still have an opportunity to win Your league. Great cash prizes. You can join my league. Mark schlerith.renegadefantasy.com and, and we can go head to head.
Dan Patrick
You block for Terrell Davis. He rushed for 2,000 yards and you won the super bowl that year, correct?
Devin
Yes.
Dan Patrick
And I'm curious if you compared that season to what Saquon Barkley did last season with the Eagles. Who had a better season?
Devin
Yeah, I mean, Saquon was absolutely amazing. The Philadelphia Eagles, like just from top to bottom, their roster is just ridiculously good. So, yeah, I just think that one of the things that has happened here in the recent years and this business and the business of football is so cyclical. I think one of the things that's really been interesting to me is watch the resurgence of the running game and how much people are putting, the importance people are putting into that. And it's really, it's really interesting to, to watch how offenses have kind of looked at what defenses have done to them. So this got to be such a passing league, Dan, and such small people that, you know, in my day everybody was, you know, linebackers are 250 pounds, right. And they're taking on guards and stuff. Now everybody's 215 to 20. They can run like the wind, sideline to sideline. They got to cover and offenses, it just said, well, let's just play smash mob. Like I, I had this rule when I was playing. If a fight breaks out and it comes between the little guy and the big guy, punch the little guy. They go down a lot faster. Right. So if you can get a 330 pound guard on a 215 pound linebacker, let's go. Or the fullbacks, like how many fullbacks do you see in the league right now that are close to £300 that play D tackle in college? Like it's the way it's going right now. I've been watching a bunch of preseason. I'm watching fullbacks. They're my favorite players. I watching fullbacks like Ricard and this UTS kid in Seattle out of Alabama and he's just shortening necks out there. And I'm like, this is awesome. I love this style of football. I'm in.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I that years ago I kept saying somebody is going to be counter, counter intuitive and they're going to run the ball. Because everybody was really lean. It was all about quickness, about getting to the quarterback. And I thought if somebody gets a running game, it's almost like Whitey Herzog with his cardinals in St. Louis years ago. All they did Is run. Yeah. And I still think you could do that in baseball where you had speed. Everybody's got power, but you have speed just to be different than somebody else. And now you're kind of seeing a renaissance, which I think is great for the game. I think it's great that you have these, these running backs who are, you know, not, you know, we basically kind of strip them down and said, yeah, go out there, maybe pass block and run out for some, you know, pass catches.
Devin
Yeah, it's. I love it. I love it as well. The other thing, you know, you get into is so there's so much side to side speed. And these linebackers, like I mentioned, 215, 220, but can run like the wind. And they get advantages when you run the ball outside or you flip it out there in a screen game and all that stuff, because they can just run and go tackle and hit people. So one of the things, you know, the thought process is, all right, well, if they've got the advantage of going side to side, let's slow them down and let's not let them move. So let's attack straight downhill with a tight zone or an ISO play and let's put, you know, Bob, our, our back on your backer like our fullback at £300 on your 215 pound linebacker, and let's make them stop their feet. Let's take the advantage of speed away from the defense and let's just go after them. And you've seen a lot of that. Man, I love watching. Obviously it's a little bit different in Baltimore because you got to throw in Lamar Jackson into the mix with his ability to run. But I love that style of football. I love what they're doing in the run game right now. And you know, it reminds me of 90s football, which I'm all about.
Dan Patrick
Meanest defensive lineman you blocked or tried to.
Devin
The meanest guy I, you know, John Randall was nasty. I mean the, the guy, Warren Sapp was nasty, but the guy that really like myself and I think everybody was scared of was Lawrence Taylor. I mean, you know, he played linebacker, quote unquote. But dude, you would break the huddle, man, and you'd peek because you didn't want to look right. You'd peek, you'd had counter called and you just kind of peeked down there and he's frothing at the bit and he like. And you're just like, man, I gotta go trap this guy. And I know this is gonna hurt me a lot more than it's Gonna hurt him. And you just didn't want to give him a hint. But he knew, and he just had that ability. As soon as you come screaming down the line of a scrimmage, manage, sink his hips and lower his shoulder and then just explode into you. Maybe just like, oh, man, he dog cussed me a couple times in a game, and I thought, for sure he's gonna kill me. Like, I just was like, oh, my gosh, I may cut him one time or something. Like, if you ever do that again, you know, you're like, yes, sir, Mr. Taylor. I will never do it again. I promise. Yeah, he was. He was frightening. What an unbelievable. Change the game. Change the game.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, he was the first edge rusher. When you think, Right. We didn't call him an edge rusher. It was just a linebacker who was fast. And then Derek Brooks or. No, who was Derek Thomas.
Devin
Derek Thomas. Yeah, yeah. Played that. Played that kind of edge. Yeah, we counted him as a big. I tell you, the other thing we did with Lawrence is what I was just talking to you about. You couldn't run away from him. He chased everything down. So we just ran at him at all times and made him stop his feet. And that wasn't very successful either, Dan. But it was like the. The less, the lesser to better both worlds. Yeah, we're going to get our ass kicked either way, but we might as well get our ass kicked right to the point.
Dan Patrick
I remember an offensive coordinator saying that the best way to go after Alan Page of the Purple People leaders, the Minnesota Vikings, was to go at him. And, you know, I. I was trying to wrap my head around that logic that here's their best player, hall of Famer. And he said, you must take away his legs. So go at him so you know where he is instead of, he's going to eventually catch up to you. And, yeah, I thought it was a brilliant approach. He said it wasn't always successful, but at least we knew Alan Page wasn't going to track down a running back. And it's the same with lt. Yeah, for sure.
Devin
There's a couple of guys that we did that with. I tell you, you know, for. For the rap that. That Bill Belichick gets for, you know, being a curmudgeon and all that stuff. Man, I did. I did a New England game a couple years ago and sat down with Bill, and we made our introductory introductions around the table. And then he just looked at me and he goes, we've had some freaking battles, haven't we? And then we talked about Redskins, Giants back in the late 80s, early 90s and we probably talked for 30 minutes, had nothing to do with the game. I was calling just about that time and game planning and, and it was, it was one of the coolest conversations I've ever had.
Dan Patrick
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Devin
You got it, Dan. Take care, buddy. Always good to be with you.
Dan Patrick
We'll take a break. We'll update our poll results, some phone calls and our play of the day right after this.
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Ty
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Manny
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Manny
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Devin
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Manny
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Ty
No, buddy. Every day. The super bowl, boys. Let's go, Fritzy.
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Ty
Dan, I wanted to quickly comment on Paulie's shirt from earlier this week. If you let Paulie borrow your happy Gilmore 2 mustache, he'd give off major Magnum PI vibes. Straight up Tom Selleck, baby.
Dan Patrick
Whoa.
Ty
But I was. I was, sir. I was surfing the old air quotes cable the other night and I stumbled across across a show called Bye Bye Barry. What a fantastic job done by all. And I had no idea you were in it dp which was awesome. I mean that was great. And just reminded me of what could have been and how much talent the Lions just totally mishandled. Not good.
Dan Patrick
Good. Thank you, Buddha. Yeah. I've known Barry a long, long time. His junior year at Oklahoma State. Aiden in Utah. Hi, Aiden. What's on your mind?
Ty
Adp. Good morning.
Dan Patrick
Good morning.
Ty
I'm coming to you for some life advice on all of your wisdom. This weekend I am going to Propose my girlfriend of four years. And I want any and all advice from you and all the dentists.
Dan Patrick
What is your plan?
Ty
So I have told her we are having a family dinner up the mountain, which is something we usually do, so it shouldn't be. She shouldn't suspect it, you know. And then I have a. I have it set up. There'll be a sign there tucked away in some trees. I'll have a photographer hidden away and I'll just walk around the corner and they should see it and it should hopefully be a complete surprise.
Dan Patrick
Okay? Yes. Todd.
Devin
One thing that comes to mind for me, because I don't have that, because I proposed at JFK airport and I can never go back to that exact spot, is wherever spot he picks, make sure it's a spot that in the future that he could always go back to that exact spot, assuming she's going to say yes. So that spot will always be there and you'll be able to find it and go romantically down the road to celebrate an anniversary.
Dan Patrick
You can go back to baggage claim at jfk.
Devin
With all the construction. I have no idea where that spot is anymore. But all I know is I wish I had done it. I had to do it because I was. We were flying out for a surprise trip to Miami after I proposed. But I wish there was a spot where you can go to the exact place you got on the knee, which I can't do.
Dan Patrick
You only go to JFK if you absolutely have to go there. That is true. Never, never visit for fun. Yeah. Yeah.
Paulie
Make sure you have a flight. Aiden, I would say this. If your family is going to be involved or there during the questioning, do it fast so nobody spoils it. Like a family member walks in, sees the girl and says. How'd it go? Pull the trigger real quick.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Eden.
Devin
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
I think the longer you wait, the more nervous you're going to be. So just get in there like Paulie said. Also, in case you're thinking of being funny, you're not as funny as you think you are. I know that I don't know you, Aiden, but trust me, you're not as funny as you think you are. Don't try to make this funny. Just do it from the heart. Good luck, Aiden. We'd like to know about it next week. Perry in Charlotte. Hi, Perry.
Ty
Hey, Dan. First time, long time. 510, 170 on a good day. Quick story and then a question on promotion, relegation, college football. I was in the Bahamas a couple months back for a wedding and we were. We Were taking the rental car to a boat day an hour of the island. We were trying to find some music to listen to on the radio. Scanning the radio, all I can find are Spanish speaking stations. Until what do I stumble onto? The Dan Patrick Show. I know you joke about having strong followings and, you know, random cities like Stockholm and Tokyo, but I can confirm you are accessible on that small island of Eleuthera in the Bahamas.
Dan Patrick
Awesome.
Ty
Yeah. Calling back to a conversation just kind of the past couple months with promotion, relegation, college football. What makes pro rail work so well in European soccer is, you know, they have a balanced schedule. They play home and aways with every team in the league. They play 38 game seasons. No team can say they played, you know, a tougher schedule than the other due to the.
Dan Patrick
Oh, it was Stanholt. Seaton will talk to you. Let's bring that one back. Yeah, Seaton will talk to you. Ed Werder, covering the Cowboys, joins us in about 20 minutes from now.
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Date: August 22, 2025
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show
Host: Dan Patrick (with Fritzi, Seaton, Marv, and Paulie)
Special Guest: Mark Schlereth (NFL on Fox analyst, 3x Super Bowl Champion)
Episode Theme:
A Friday broadcast packed with NFL drama—especially the unfolding saga between Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons' agent—College Football quirks, and Mark Schlereth’s candid insights on football culture, franchise missteps, and the evolution of the game.
The first hour of this episode centers on the Dallas Cowboys' ongoing contract drama between owner Jerry Jones and star linebacker Micah Parsons’ representation, including media confusion about a now-infamous, bizarrely censored quote. The crew blends humor with sharp NFL commentary before welcoming Mark Schlereth for a deep dive into NFL negotiations, team culture, and league trends. The hour also features banter about great, atypical quarterback careers and a spirited listener call-in segment.
[05:24] – [09:22]
"We wanted to send the details to the agent. The agents told us to up our ass. Mike and I talked, and then we were going to send it over to the agent." – Jerry Jones (07:45)
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[25:12] – [43:22]
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Dan Patrick’s show seamlessly interweaves sharp sports analysis, inside-league stories, playful ribbing, and spontaneous audience interaction, using humor as both a scalpel and a shield against the NFL’s everyday absurdities. Mark Schlereth’s straight talk perfectly balances the crew’s levity, making this hour both insightful and loaded with laughs.
This summary covers all major segments and themes through the first hour, with key quotes and timestamps to guide those catching up on the day’s sports talk buzz.