Hour 1 – Jets Are a Mess, Kevin O'Connell

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1: Jets Are a Mess, Kevin O'Connell

Introduction In the December 19, 2024 episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick delves into the tumultuous state of the New York Jets, quarterback dynamics within the NFL, and features an insightful interview with Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell. The episode is rich with expert analysis, engaging discussions, and humorous takes on current sports events.

1. The New York Jets' Predicament The episode kicks off with Dan Patrick addressing the dire situation surrounding the New York Jets. He elaborates on the team's struggles, attributing much of the turmoil to ownership issues, particularly focusing on Woody Johnson's leadership.

Dan Patrick [11:22]: "It starts there. Leadership starts there. Everything, just the feel in the building starts there."

Patrick criticizes Johnson's decision-making, citing a failed trade attempt for Jerry Jeudy due to dubious reasons like Madden ratings, which Patrick views as superficial metrics.

Dan Patrick [10:45]: "They were going to trade with the Broncos. And then Woody Johnson... found out from his sons that Jerry Judy didn't have a good Madden reading."

He further expresses skepticism about the Jets' potential improvement without significant changes in ownership and management, highlighting the complexity of addressing deep-rooted organizational issues.

2. Quarterback Future and Poll Discussion Transitioning to quarterback prospects, Dan introduces a poll question, engaging the audience in contemplating the future of NFL quarterbacks.

Dan Patrick [06:01]: "We got a few options here for you, quarterback whose future I'm most curious about... Aaron Rodgers, Trevor Lawrence, Kirk D. Cousins, Sam Darnold."

The discussion centers around Kirk Cousins' potential as a starter and his recent comments about being benched, portraying him as a team player willing to support the upcoming quarterback, Brock Purdy.

Kirk Cousins [06:46]: "The team has for me, that unfortunately I wasn't playing up to that standard consistently enough."

Patrick humorously remarks on Cousins' demeanor, likening him to a benevolent figure akin to Jimmy Stewart's character in It's a Wonderful Life.

3. Interview with Kevin O'Connell, Vikings Head Coach The highlight of the episode is an in-depth interview with Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings' head coach. Drawing from his experience as a former backup quarterback, O'Connell provides valuable insights into coaching strategies, player development, and team dynamics.

Kevin O'Connell [29:50]: "Some tough memories of, you know, anytime it was windy or rainy and I couldn't throw the football."

O'Connell reflects on his tenure with the New England Patriots, emphasizing the importance of team cohesion and leadership. He discusses the Vikings' impressive 12-2 record, attributing their success to a robust defense and effective offense.

Kevin O'Connell [35:09]: "We got a really good team here. We were able to rip off five in a row to start the season."

He also touches upon the evolving role of a head coach, balancing play-calling with overall team management, and highlights the significance of clear communication with quarterbacks.

Kevin O'Connell [38:24]: "I try to be an extension of me out there. And I feel really good about Sam's done a phenomenal job."

The conversation offers listeners a behind-the-scenes look at the strategic thinking that drives successful NFL teams, showcasing O'Connell's leadership philosophy and his admiration for other esteemed coaches like Mike Tomlin.

4. Additional NFL Discussions Beyond the Jets and quarterback futures, the episode explores broader NFL topics, including player performances, coaching accolades, and speculative trades. Patrick engages co-hosts and guests in lively debates about potential Coach of the Year candidates and the impact of ownership decisions on team fortunes.

Dan Patrick [35:02]: "Kevin O'Connell, who I think is going to win the Coach of the Year. I don't. Does that matter to you?"

This segment underscores the interconnected nature of team management, player performance, and coaching excellence in shaping the NFL landscape.

5. Audience Interaction and Poll Results Throughout the show, Dan Patrick encourages listener participation through polls and social media engagement. Mid-episode, poll results reveal audience preferences regarding starting quarterbacks and opinions on having parents in the FBI.

Seton O'Connor [47:16]: "If you were the 49ers, who would you want as your starting quarterback? Brock Purdy or Kirk Cousins? Right now, BROCK Purdy has 83% of that vote."

These interactions not only foster a sense of community among listeners but also provide real-time insights into fan sentiments and preferences.

Conclusion Dan Patrick's episode offers a comprehensive analysis of the New York Jets' struggles, explores the future trajectories of prominent quarterbacks, and presents an enlightening conversation with Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell. Through expert commentary, engaging discussions, and interactive segments, the show delivers valuable content for sports enthusiasts seeking in-depth coverage of current NFL happenings.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Patrick [11:22]: "Leadership starts there. Everything, just the feel in the building starts there."
• Kirk Cousins [06:46]: "The team has for me, that unfortunately I wasn't playing up to that standard consistently enough."
• Kevin O'Connell [29:50]: "Some tough memories of, you know, anytime it was windy or rainy and I couldn't throw the football."
• Seton O'Connor [47:16]: "BROCK Purdy has 83% of that vote."

Timestamps Overview:

• 03:11 – Introduction to main topics
• 06:01 – Poll on quarterback futures
• 11:22 – Discussion on Jets' ownership issues
• 29:50 – Interview with Kevin O'Connell
• 35:02 – Coach of the Year discussion
• 47:16 – Poll results segment

Listeners who tune into this episode gain a nuanced understanding of the current challenges and opportunities within the NFL, enriched by the expertise and personable style that Dan Patrick brings to The Dan Patrick Show.

Transcript

[Dan Patrick]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd Fritz]

Play it by ear.

[Dan Patrick]

Merry fritzmas and it's got a good ring to it. It's a big night for Fritzi. His Broncos. I think it's us against the Chargers.

[Todd Fritz]

It's us. This is the biggest game since Super Bowl 50.

[Dan Patrick]

The Chargers are giving three against Fritzi's Broncos. It's also the R and L carriers New Orleans bowl coming up tonight. Set set your schedule accordingly. Your House 8773, DP show email address [e-mail] Twitter handle a DP show say good morning. Good morning to those watching on peacock. And that's our streaming partner radio affiliates as well. This first hour brought to you by Rapid Radios. Instant push to talk walkie talkies for clear national LTE coverage. One touch communication, peace of mind for connecting with families in an emergency, go to rapidradios.com you get up to 60% off free shipping stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. Vikings head coach Kevin Okono will join us coming up later on this hour. Chris Collinsworth, NBC Sunday night football and a musician that I have fallen in love with. I got a man crush on Stephen Wilson Jr. And got a heads up probably a month ago, maybe three weeks ago from my brother. And my brother said, here's a song that might be the best written song I've ever heard. Well, he got my attention because he has a great ear for music. I listened to it. Then I started listening to more of his songs. And he was in Massachusetts last week going to New York. We had him stop through on a day off and he performed a couple of songs. So we'll bring that interview to you in the final hour of the program. Alrighty. Good morning, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio and over 400 cities in America that carry this program. Patrick Mahomes practices and looks like he'll be ready to go. Coming up this weekend you have the Thursday night football. It's a tough stretch for some teams where you got three games in 11 days and that's putting a whole lot of stress, I would think, on some of these teams this time of the year when you're just trying to stay healthy to get ready for the postseason. And here's Mahomes, who got banged up with the high ankle sprain, but he'll still be playing, it looks like. But this is, this is where. If you're a coach, how can you coach your players to play safe or safer, not take risk? Because look at Detroit. I mean, they're so banged up on the defensive side of the ball and, you know, Dan Campbell doesn't coach that way. But can you play to not get hurt? And players will say that's usually when you do get hurt. Seaton, what's the poll question for the first hour of the program?

[Seton O'Connor]

Well, we got a few options here for you, quarterback whose future I'm most curious about. Your options here are Cousins, Rogers, Lawrence, other.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so Aaron Rodgers, Trevor Lawrence, Kirk D. Cousins. What about Sam Darnold?

[Seton O'Connor]

Okay, that's a great one.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you put Brock Purdy in there or does that feel like. Of course they're going to hold on to Brock Purdy? See anybody else that we would put it. No, I think that's, that's the final four. Those are the ones we've been talking about. Speaking of Kirk Cousins, not many backup quarterbacks go to a press conference, but he talked about getting benched yesterday. You know, it's pro football. You know, there's a standard that, you.

[Marvin]

Know, I have for myself, that the.

[Dan Patrick]

Team has for me, that unfortunately I wasn't playing up to that standard consistently enough. You know, it is what it is. You know, you still get ready, you know, one play away kind of a thing, and support Mike and just try to help our team, you know, be.

[Marvin]

Able to find a way to win.

[Dan Patrick]

These last three to get in the playoffs. Yeah, I'm not surprised that, you know, this would be his approach. He's sort of the Jimmy Stewart of NFL quarterbacks. You know, it's a wonderful life. I'll try to make it great for the other guy and, you know, hey, get Mike in there and let him play. Here's Michael Pennix Jr. On how he found out he was the starter with the Falcons.

[Michael Penix Jr.]

I was actually shopping. I was shopping with my girlfriend was at Costco and I got the call and, you know, they, they, they told me that I was going to be the starting quarterback, you know, for, for the, for the rest of the season. And, you know, as you can imagine, it was, it was some nerves. It was excitement, you know, but I was actually getting a hot dog and, and whenever I got the call, I wasn't Hungry no more.

[Dan Patrick]

So, all right, getting your food at Costco, that's how you find out that you're going to be the starting quarterback. Yes, Todd.

[Todd Fritz]

He wasn't hungry anymore because of nerves or because I shouldn't be eating a hot dog. I'm going to be the starting quarterback. That's not something I should be putting in my body.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I wasn't there.

[Todd Fritz]

The first thing I thought, I couldn't.

[Dan Patrick]

Couldn'T ask him, I can't eat a hot dog.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm the starting quarterback. It's a terrible thing to eat. Or oh my God, I'm so nervous about starting. I got no appetite.

[Dan Patrick]

Now I think it's time to go to work. Probably lost his appetite. Time to go to work. I gotta leave. Let's go. I gotta, I gotta watch some film here on the Giants. So Michael Penix Jr. Will get this start. And he talked about what Kirk Cousins said to him.

[Michael Penix Jr.]

You know, he's in my corner, you know, the same way that I was for, for him whenever he was a starter. He said that he was, he was going to come into the building, you know, continue to stay positive and you know, do whatever he can to help me out and, you know, help this team with football games.

[Dan Patrick]

So, okay, he's 36, he's had a great career financially, I mean, statistically as well. Is he going to be a starter someplace? Could you see him as a one year starter? Probably I could see him. I think he's, I think he's been too good to not be a starter. We talked about destinations yesterday. Maybe the Giants, if they draft a quarterback, would you have Kirk Cousins one year? Yes.

[Seton O'Connor]

Yeah, I was going to actually throw that out as another poll question. We sort of hit it yesterday. But where does Kirk Cousins land? Giants, Browns, Colts, Jets?

[Dan Patrick]

Boy, I hope it's not the Jets. There was an article that came out and it sounds like it's a mess with the Jets. Dinah Rossini had been a really detailed article with a couple other writers with the Athletic and it's just about Woody Johnson who really sounds clueless. And it's one of those, you can, you can get rid of a quarterback, you can trade a quarterback or you can fire the head coach or fire the gm. You can't do anything with the owner. You know, the Cowboy fans, if you said, hey, would you want another owner? The last 30 years? They probably say, yeah, the Washington Commanders would. Yeah, well, I'm sure they said that. Can we get somebody else in here? But with the jets, it starts there. Leadership starts There, everything, just the feel in the building starts there. Who is he? What does he know? What decisions do you make? Who does he confer with? And then you find out that they were going to trade for Jerry Judy, who I think has a thousand receiving yards for the Browns. They were going to trade with the Broncos. And then Woody Johnson, I think, found out from his sons that Jerry Judy didn't have a good Madden reading. Oh, oh, yeah. So they didn't make the trade. He didn't have a good Madden reading, but I guess his sons or grandsons, I, I guess the family's more involved in this now. And it is, it is a deep dive into the jets mess. And Woody Johnson doesn't come out of this looking like he knows what he's doing. And there's a reason why the jets, you know, it's Jetsian. They, they just do things and you go, that's just Jetsian. Yes. Mark, is knowing who the owner is a bad sign for a franchise? Like, if you know who the owner.

[Todd Fritz]

Is for the most part?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, Robert Kraft did really well in New England, so I, I mean, I would start there. Jerry Buss with the Lakers. I think there's, I think there's certain ownership individuals, not groups, but individuals, where, you know that it's the Rooney family with the Steelers. But for the most part, I mean, I'd rather not see the owner, hear the owner. You know, when I see Arthur Blank on the sidelines with the Falcons, I just know they're going to lose. It just feels like, oh, there's Arthur.

[Steve Covino]

Just stay up there.

[Dan Patrick]

You know what? You want to congratulate them after the game. You want to bring your girlfriend down there on the field. Hey, look at us. A little photo op and then all of a sudden it's like, we're going to win the Super Bowl. Now all cameras are on me because we're going to lose the Super Bowl. I'd prefer my owner stayed upstairs. Yes, Marvin, you only see the Rooneys at the super bowl podium. Yeah, the only time you see those guys. Yeah, the Mara family with the Giants. But, you know, you're looking at what the Jets, I mean, you, if, if you read the article, you'll go, now I know, now I know that we're cursed. You know, when Woody Johnson was the ambassador to Ireland, I think first go around with President Trump and then he got passed over. This time around, I think in the building, they were hoping that he would go back. Like, oh, my God, he's not going to be. And I think they called him Mr. Ambassador in the building. Yes. What a mess. What's the reason why we're not trading for Jerry Judy? Have you seen his Madden rating? You base all your information on that. You got all of these analytic guys, data, stats, everything. But when the owner Bigfoot you, there's nothing you can do. He wanted to bench Aaron Rodgers. They fired Robert Sala. I mean, they. Joe Douglas. I mean, they fired people mid season. And that's on ownership, owner. It starts there, but it's a mess. You know, if you feel bad about your franchise, read this article. You will feel better about your franchise, your team, your ownership group. Let's see, what else do we have? Deion Sanders keeps saying that he wants to stay at Colorado, and they've had a pretty good recruiting year. He was on the Pac Man Jones podcast and had this to say.

[Rich Davis]

I love where I am. I mean, elated where I am. I'm happy where I am. I can't wait to see what the future beholds where I am. And I love. I love Boulder, Colorado. So I have every intention, every plan in the world to be coaching for the Colorado Buffs from here on. I want to finish here. I want to put the flag. I want my names on the mountains out there. I want to put my flag down in Colorado.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, if Dion truly feels this way, he should reach out to Stephen A. Smith and tell Stephen to shut up and stop having Dion up for every job. You know, Stephen A. Is saying, oh, he should replace Ryan Day at Ohio State. He should be the next Cowboys head coach. Paul Feinbaum saying, oh, he should go to usc. If you truly believe you're not helping Dion by promoting him for these other jobs. Because if I'm a recruit, first thing I'm saying is, wait a minute. Are you going to go to the Raiders with your son? What if the Cowboys call? I can't see him at Ohio State. Mike Vrabel would get that job. But, you know, Dion's friends keep promoting him for these other jobs, and it hurts Dion at Colorado because I want to know, are you going to be there? I hope he stays there. He's great for college football, but if he wants to leave, that's his, you know, prerogative. And he would be joining a long list of coaches who told us one thing and did something else. Yes. Todd, you probably want to say, I.

[Todd Fritz]

Want to win national titles as opposed to putting a flag down based on what's going on in the world these days in college football, not the best choice.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, John. Thank you. It's a figure of speech, I think. I don't think he meant it literally, actually.

[Todd Fritz]

Put the flag there because it's causing quite the controversy. I don't know if you've been watching some of these games.

[Dan Patrick]

I have. I have. We were talking about Kirk Cousins. Paulie has a wild card spot for Kirk Cousins where he thinks he would.

[Paulie]

End up the San Francisco 49ers. Imagine you don't want to give Purdy $260 million and can trade for him for almost nothing, but do a Russell Wilson where the Atlanta Falcons are paying most of it for next year. Possible gap year situation with Kirk Cousins.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so you would bring him in as the backup to Brock Purdy.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Have both of them on the roster and best man wins. It's an. It's an interesting option for them at the quarterback position.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Seton O'Connor]

So if you want to bring in a quarterback who frustratingly keeps you just short of where you're trying to go, here's another one for you. Yeah, we already got a couple.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Seton O'Connor]

Jimmy G. You know, the 49ers have a little bit of a history of disrespecting the quarterbacks who have done well for them, so I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Brock Purdy.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know it's that easy to.

[Seton O'Connor]

Get to the Super Bowl. No, it's really not.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, the Rams got rid of Jared Goff. Is Jared Goff better than Brock Purdy? Yes. I'd say yes. Right? I'd say yes. That's a push. I guess. I forgot. You are. You're at the front of the class, front of the line with the Brock Purdy fan club.

[Seton O'Connor]

Damn right.

[Dan Patrick]

That started years ago in college. Brocktober.

[Seton O'Connor]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

The problem was Brockvember and Brock December.

[Seton O'Connor]

But Brocktober every year. It was magic.

[Dan Patrick]

Awesome. All right, we'll settle on a poll question. We got a busy show here. We'll talk to the Vikings head coach, Kevin O'Connell. He'll join us. Chris Collinsworth in an hour from now. We're back after this on the Dan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Steve Covino]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

Vikings are at the Seahawks, host the packers and at the Lions to end the season.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. O yeah. Yikes. So 12 and 2, then you got the Lions and you got the Packer. Okay. And if you're going to get the Lions, get them now. We were talking about Kurt Cousins. Players with more touchdown passes and fewer interceptions than Kirk Cousins. This is career Aaron Rodgers. That's it. Russell Wilson is also in there with Kirk Cousins. So that's, that's the list. Touchdowns and interceptions. Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins and Russell Wilson Jr. III. Start of the day.

[Rich Davis]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Seton O'Connor]

What's crazy about that, too is that Aaron Rodgers career has fallen off a cliff and Russell Wilson is possibly having a resurgence after his. Also falling off a cliff.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, well, Russ got that resurgence here in Pittsburgh and Kirk has had a few of these along the way, and maybe there's one more for him. Aaron Rodgers says he's going to wait until the season ends before he decides what he's going to do next year. And then I think he may have mentioned on McAfee that he's willing to mentor a younger quarterback. That's not reason enough to have Aaron Rodgers stay as my quarterback. He just turned 41. But, you know, it's the jets, so I always go against, you know, what is logic, common sense. Like, what do you think they'll do? They'll probably bring Aaron Rodgers back. Devonte Adams has a big number there. You still have Garrett Wilson, but I'm, I'm done handicapping what I think the jets are capable of doing because I thought, thought, hey, if all goes well, they're going to be a great team. Well, it didn't go well and they've been an embarrassment. Do I think they're going to get better anytime soon? Let me know who the coach is. If Mike Brable goes there, I would have a lot of confidence in, in, in him being hired. But then I still got to worry about that owner. And really that. That's the big mystery here. How involved, what's he do? What's he say? Who do they draft? And it starts with Woody Johnson. Yes. Pauling.

[Paulie]

I wonder if a guy like Mike Rabel, who's in need and the jets could use him, could walk into that Meeting with the GM and ownership and say, I have to have control. I can't be overruled even by you. Can you say that to an owner in a meeting, or will that blow up your chances for the job?

[Dan Patrick]

I would be apprehensive if a coach came in and said that. A coach who hasn't won a Super bowl and said that I would. I would say that's not going to happen, Mike. That we will have. Unfortunately, if you're the coach and you're going in and you want that, you're not going to get it with most of these owners, because these owners don't want to be told what to do or I can't do anything. You're. You're going to decide something. And I just can't imagine that Woody Johnson's going to go, Mike, go in there and have full autonomy or Ben Johnson, the Lions offensive coordinator, or whoever else you're bringing in. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, what if Mike Rabel goes back to Woody Johnson and says, you know, when I was in New England winning Super Bowls, our head coach had autonomy, and Robert Kraft mostly stayed out of the way, and it seemed to work. Would you be interested in having that here?

[Dan Patrick]

But then I would say, you're not Bill Belichick.

[Paulie]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

You're not Bill Belichick. And this is an organization that passed on Bill Belichick, reportedly passed on bringing Bill in to interview him. I don't know if they're in the mood for a Bill Belichick type personality there. And. And really that, I think, scared away a lot of these owners. Like, when you turn it over to Bill, it's his. And. And it's, you know, you're not getting it back. I mean, it took the crafts a long time to get it back from Bill, and then they led them down a path that, you know, Bill got fired because of that. Yes.

[Seton O'Connor]

I'm going to guess that billionaire team owners, the one thing they absolutely will not stand for is I'm not in control, so I'm not in charge. You're going to come in here and tell me how to run my team that I own. Nah, that's all right.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm good. Yeah. And I. I do think that you have the ownership now that is not turning their franchise over to somebody who wants total autonomy. You coach, we'll have a gm, we'll have a president, and then I'm the owner, and there's a chain of command here. And I think Bill scared some of these owners. I mean, if you're the Bears, Why wouldn't you bring him in? Right. The, the downside is what you continue to lose. You lose a little control. If you're the jets, can you swallow whatever pride you have and say, you know what? We'll bring, we'll bring him back even though he resigned on a, a, a napkin. Resigned on a napkin, didn't want to coach the jets, but he's Belichick. There's only one. That's it. But I can't imagine that these teams are going to go, Bill, come on now. I thought Jacksonville, but I don't know, you know, Shad Khan and his family and how involved and, you know, so I think those are, those are concerns that you have with ownership of turning everything over to Bill Belichick. He's Kevin oconnell, third year, is the Vikings head coach and former backup NFL quarterback. What did you keep from your days as a backup quarterback?

[Kevin O'Connell]

What did I keep?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Jersey.

[Kevin O'Connell]

You know, some, some tough memories of, you know, anytime it was windy or rainy and I couldn't throw the football. But no, I, I, I've got, I've got, I've got everything. My wife would probably tell you that I keep too much stuff. I got jerseys. I, I, you know, I got a pair of Ladanian Tomlinson's cleats from when my locker was next to him at, you know, his, my last year with the Jets.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, did you ask him for those or did you take those?

[Kevin O'Connell]

Can't recall. Let's, let's not go there this morning, actually. No, I did, I did ask him. I did ask.

[Dan Patrick]

He might be one of, he might be one of the most underrated players of all time.

[Kevin O'Connell]

Totally agree.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, his stats are crazy. I went over those two days ago. I was just looking and I go, gosh, he's not meant when we talk great running backs of all time. He's one of those we got to come back to and go, oh, yeah, you're right. Lt was great.

[Kevin O'Connell]

Now there's no doubt. And how he did it, too. I mean, there were some games he was 30 plus carries. There was other games he had 10 plus catch. I mean, super, super impactful.

[Dan Patrick]

You wouldn't have got your chance if Brady didn't get hurt that year.

[Kevin O'Connell]

It was, you know, it was actually, you know, when it happened, that was back, that was back kind of, you know, before some of the rules that we have now with the, you know, where you have to clearly define who the third quarterback is. So, you know, there was, there was a moment in that, in that when When Tom went down where Matt Castle and I weren't sure who was going in the game, and then Matt went out there and, and you know, we were. If I, if I recall correctly, there was a moment early there where we were backed up and he threw Randy Moss a big completion from, you know, standing in the shadows of his own goal post and he, the rest was history. From there. He, he had an unbelievable year. That was a, that was a really interesting year because, you know, you're. You go to New England, you think you're going to be watching the greatest quarterback of all time, you know, go to work every week and then something catastrophic like that happens. And then just to be there side by side through that with Matt and, and, and Matt and I became really close and watch him go through it, and he was so prepared for the moment. Had been there for a pretty good chunk of years, kind of just learning and growing and developing, and then watch him go out and execute every week and shoot me one if I don't. If I recall right, I think we won 11 games and didn't make the playoffs. It was, it was kind of a one of one thing.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you do the nobody believes us type speech?

[Kevin O'Connell]

Well, you know, it was to me, at the beginning of the year, Dan, it was easy to say, to give that speech because that would have been accurate at the time, you know, but I did have a feeling about this team even going back into the off season. New additions arrive and you're kind of just seeing the team come together and it seemed like every few days. I remember vividly a conversation I had with Harrison Smith second or third day of training camp. And I, I just kind of walked up to him and we were talking and kind of assessing, you know, it was during special teams. And I said, harry, I think we be pretty good. And he's like, I, I think so too. And, and we kind of just kept on having good days and, and my whole focus was just. It really wasn't about, you know, motivating from a standpoint of, hey, nobody's talking about us, or the wind projections or anything like that. I didn't get into all that. It was just trying to get these guys to truly see if we can maximize every day. And it's, it's, it can be a cliche if you're, you know, if you're, if you're not authentically believing it, that that's the most important thing for this team this year. But I truly did feel between our, you know, having a new quarterback and just you know, so many new faces on the defense and flow, kind of bringing that group together every single day. We had to maximize the time we had. And if we didn't, you know, I didn't necessarily think we would reach our potential, you know, as early as we needed to, to have the kind of impact, to get the confidence going, to start really believing. And we were able to rip off five in a row to start the season. And we, you know, I tell our team this sometimes because I want them to remember it, especially the totality of our roster, but we won all three preseason games, Dan. I'd never won a preseason game before, so that was, you know, I was hoping that wouldn't be the marquee moment of the year for us, but, you know, outside of losing two games in five days by two to Detroit and, and then going playing Sean and, and the Rams on the road on a short week, this team hasn't, hasn't lost outside in the other, you know, 15 total opportunities. So proud of what we are, but means absolutely nothing. Got a heck of a challenge this week going to Seattle. Mike McDonald's got a, you know, that, that's, that's a tough watch on tape for an opposing team because he's, he's doing some really good things on offense, defense and special teams.

[Dan Patrick]

Kevin O'Connell, who I think is going to win the Coach of the Year. I don't. Does that matter to you?

[Kevin O'Connell]

I, you know, I'm, I'm lucky I don't have a vote because there's a lot of really good coaches in our league, man.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, who would you vote for for Coach of the Year if you can vote for yourself?

[Kevin O'Connell]

I can't envision a scenario like that, but if I can't vote for myself, I would probably say, you know, I think Dan Campbell in our division, coaching against him. You know, that team is always really well prepared, tough. They've truly taken on the Persona of their head coach, which I think is, you know, what, what means, what means the most in this position, having done it now for three years, I think Mike Tomlin would be. There's nobody I respect more than Mike Tomlin and what he has consistently done his whole career. And I just love, anytime I get a chance to be around him, he, you know, I always take something from it and, and just love, love, love him. But I would say probably one of those two guys can't, can't sleep on Dan Quinn either. That's, I know that's, that's been a heck of a year for Them as well.

[Dan Patrick]

Take me back to when you were offensive coordinator with the Rams. So like Cooper Cup's year, how crazy was that? And, and if you're calling plays at. It seems like had to be pretty easy if you're calling plays with, with Matthew Stafford playing as well and Cooper cup having the Triple crown year.

[Kevin O'Connell]

Well, I think what people don't give Cooper enough credit for is the position he plays in that offense. He, you know, he may. Everyone remembers the third down catches and Matthew hitting them, you know, on a, you know, a huge play against the Niners to kind of, kind of break a game open when we had to have it or The Tampa Bay 4th down throw down the middle in the playoffs, you know, or two minute throw, I should say. But what they don't see is when he's such an integral, integral part of the run game and the physicality and the toll that takes, you know, and the jobs he's willing to do, the football intelligence. So it was, I mean, watching him, you know, I used to say there should be a fourth column. That year he won the Triple Crown, you know, pancake blocks and you know, amount of times he had to block a defensive end or a linebacker. And if there was that, I think people would recognize that year even more than what they did in the moment. And just watching him and Matthew Stafford was one of the, one of the kind of highlights of my career, honestly Dan, because, you know, in the mornings these two guys are meeting as if they're almost coaches and really talking about the nuances of things that. And I remember I would just sometimes just, you know, get a conversation started or be present for one that they were having and just kind of sit back and recognize how one of one that situation was because of where both those guys were at their careers. But also just the football intelligence of two human beings that can play the game at a high level. But some of the things they talked about were so beyond football 501. It was, you know, sometimes I would sit there and just hope they didn't call on me to answer a question.

[Dan Patrick]

What's your role with Sam Darnold?

[Kevin O'Connell]

I think my role with him is just. I tried to, I tried to not, you know, be so heavily involved because I think Josh McCown and Grant Udinsky in that room, we've got a really good kind of support system directly for him in that, in that room. What I try to really be is, you know, really three things. Is the play caller given him as much play intent of what I'm thinking. So I Can eliminate any gray. I think one of the big things I've always thought a quarterback needs to know is that I'm not going to be standing or sitting in the room on Monday morning holding the clicker and say, hey, why didn't you do this? Hey, this guy's open. Why didn't you throw that? Like, what I try to say is give clear, concise, hey, this is what we're trying to get done. If that doesn't happen, if I give you a bad play, like, here's what I want you to do with it. Here's, here's where you know your, your outlet or your checkdowns are going to be and let's live to fight another down. Let's not try to, you don't need to be Superman for, for us here. Although I do think he's made some Superman esque throws this year with the talent he has and his ability to throw it. And that's what I'm, you know, most trying to do on a one, on one level. And then there's the element of how we're going to manage the game together because I do think the benefit of being the play caller and the head coach is a lot of times, you know, I, I can, I can, I can kind of help the management overall of when we're going to be ultra aggressive, when we're going to be, you know, kind of in a mode of, hey, our defense is playing great. I'm going to give you this play call but let's make sure we ensure three points or let's make sure that no matter what we end this possession with or end this down with possession of the football. Because if the way our defense is playing, if we don't do things to lose the game right now, we got a great chance to win it. And there's just a lot of times in the game where that can get away from you if you don't have that direct line of communication with the quarterback. So I know those are probably the two things and, and then just, you know, overall, just, you know, just how we put it all together. Just making sure that he's an extension of me out there. And I feel really good about. Sam's done a phenomenal job, Dan. He really has.

[Dan Patrick]

I'll leave you with this. If every current NFL head coach took part in a passing contest.

[Kevin O'Connell]

I know there'd be probably 32 participants, but I don't know if we would classify all 32 as passers of the football.

[Dan Patrick]

Now Harbaugh, you know, thinks that he could win this.

[Kevin O'Connell]

No doubt. He's probably got cleats on as we speak in bed. And he, he probably, you know, I know for a fact, I've seen him. He, he still throws it probably as well as anybody, but I wouldn't sleep on, on Cliff there in Washington. I know, you know, he would qualify as a coordinator currently, but I know.

[Dan Patrick]

He, he thinks he's not eligible. Kev, he's not eligible.

[Kevin O'Connell]

He's not eligible. Then I'm putting myself in there. You got Zach Taylor, Sean Payton.

[Dan Patrick]

Can he still throw it?

[Kevin O'Connell]

I don't know. I don't know. Probably. But. And, and don't sleep on the, the McVeigh LaFleur. You know, Kyle's a former receiver, but all those guys, they all think they can throw it.

[Dan Patrick]

Andy Reed won the punt, pass and kick contest when he was 13 years of age.

[Kevin O'Connell]

It all makes sense now, of course.

[Dan Patrick]

Good luck with the game against Seattle. Great to talk to you and congrats.

[Kevin O'Connell]

Yeah, I always appreciate you, Dan. Really do. Thank you for having me on.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, bud. That's Kevin O'Connell, who I think right now would be the leading candidate for coach of the year. They got Seattle coming up, then they host the packers. Then they're at the Lions. Yikes. Take a break, Play the day. Up next, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Golf's newest league is coming to ESPN and ESPN Plus. Introducing TGL presented by SoFi. You have three on three team matchups that play on Monday and Tuesday nights. Six teams competing for playoffs in a championship. You're in Atlanta, Boston, Jupiter, Florida, Los Angeles, New York and the Bay. Those are the teams. 24 the PGA Tours best. You got Tiger, you got Rory, Colin Morikawa, Xander Shoffley, Ricky Fowler and so many more. Two hour matches during primetime and the matches take place on Monday and Tuesday nights. There's other sporting elements. There's timeouts, there's refs, there's overtime. Players are mic'd up. They all play in a custom built tech infused arena. It's wild. It's not your average Sunday pickup game. To learn more, visit tglgolf.com and tune in to the inaugural season beginning January 7th. Keep up. It's golf. Sonos makes it easy to enjoy a cinematic sound experience from the comfort of your own couch. Sonos works with award winning artists, producers, sound engineers to deliver the highest quality sound. Listen to all that holiday music you want and all the holiday movies as well. With Sonos. Sonos products work together. So what you can do is build your own sound system and they look as beautiful as they sound. Once you hear it, you'll ask yourself, how have I survived without this? Sonos has great gifts for everybody on your list. Visit sonos.com dan you'll save 20% on select products. That's sonos.com dan congratulations to Easterseals Southern.

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[Savannah Guthrie]

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[Paulie]

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[Seton O'Connor]

Yep, sure will. We've got up there right now two poll questions. If you were the 49ers, who would you want as your starting quarterback? Brock Purdy or Kirk Cousins? Right now, BROCK Purdy has 83% of that vote.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seton O'Connor]

And then we also have up there. Having one of your parents in the FBI is awesome or awful.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Kevin O'Connell's dad's a former FBI agent.

[Seton O'Connor]

Right now, that's 50.

[Dan Patrick]

50.

[Seton O'Connor]

Awesome and awful. Equal parts.

[Dan Patrick]

Can you turn off the FBI agent when you're at home, or are you going to be like Robert De Niro and the Fockers where he's constantly looking? I don't know if you could turn it off. And are you looking? Are you suspicious? I don't know. Like, you know, you're going to try to fool your dad who's an FBI agent. Nah, I don't know. I just think you, you know, your friends know if you come over here. Dad's. Dad's at home. Hey, I can't. I gotta be home by 11. Oh, you can get home at 11:30. No, I have to be home before 11:00. All of a sudden you got a searchlight. Helicopter overhead. Yeah, that would. I don't think any of my friends had. Well, Todd's dad was a police officer.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes. And he put me in a situation which I was very embarrassed about when I stole some candy at a Little League field concession stand.

[Dan Patrick]

And what did he do?

[Todd Fritz]

He noticed that I took more of these little bingo taffy candies. My pocket was filled with candy. He only gave me like 10 cents, and you only get like three of them. And there's no way there was only three in my pocket. So he said, oh, you got some deal there.

[Dan Patrick]

You can get a lot of candy.

[Todd Fritz]

For 10 cents these days. He reached into my pocket and spilling all over. He made me go all the way back and apologize. And he grabbed my wrist as I dumped all as I apologize back into this container of where the taffy was.

[Dan Patrick]

He didn't cuff you?

[Todd Fritz]

He did not. But he gave me a nice tight grab of my wrist as I dropped all the candy back into. Sorry, it'll never happen again. I took more than I was supposed.

[Dan Patrick]

You almost didn't have enough energy to finish. That was very emotional.

[Todd Fritz]

Police officers are trained to see peripheral vision, and they get. They see things before they happen. And their side views. Was very hard to put something past my dad.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, well, I would have cuffed you and throwing you in the clink for a night that was.

[Todd Fritz]

That was a tough day for me, but rightfully so. He did the right thing.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, he did. And she did. All right. 877-3-DP show email address dp a danpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Chris Collinsworth. Coming up next hour, Here's a random thought you're probably thinking. I didn't think they would bring this up today. Is Christian McCaffrey a Hall of Famer? If he doesn't play another down, don't know what this injury is going to be like. It feels like that injury is going to stay with him the rest of his career. And when you're going out of the country during the season to get treatment, you're looking for probably plan B or plan C. He's played eight seasons, and if I'm looking at. See, this is what's going to happen, guaranteed. Paulie brought this up, and I know this leads to the Tiki Barber is a better running back career wise. Is this where we're going?

[Paulie]

I was just thinking about a guy like McCaffrey. Does he tap out early and take a nice easy.

[Dan Patrick]

It's just a yes or no, Paul. Is this a. Let's talk about Tiki Barber.

[Paulie]

Any opportunity.

[Seton O'Connor]

So are we getting a who stats? Would you rather blind who stats?

[Dan Patrick]

You know what? Let me wait till the top of next hour. I got a little more time here. I. As soon as I saw this, I'm like, I'm Paulie asking that question. Okay. I don't think Christian McCaffrey is a Hall of Famer. Oh. But I know Tiki Barber is a Hall of Famer. I. I truly think if Tiki Barber gets into the hall of Fame, you will go to the hall of Fame ceremony. You should be invited because you might be the only person aside from Tiki. And I don't even think he's trying to keep this alive.

[Paulie]

I think I'm bigger than Ronde in his corner.

[Todd Fritz]

Present him, probably.

[Paulie]

Yeah, that'd be nice.

[Dan Patrick]

Ladies and gentlemen, from the Dan Patrick show, here's Paul Pabst. Yeah, go get him. We'll ask Chris Collinsworth that question coming up. One hour in the books. Two more to go.

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