Hour 1 – Kentucky Derby Still Slaps, Sour Grapes from Jaylen Brown

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The Dan Patrick Show

Episode: Hour 1 – Kentucky Derby Still Slaps, Sour Grapes from Jaylen Brown
Date: May 4, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Host: Dan Patrick with the Danettes (Paul, Todd “Fritzi”, Marvin, Dylan)

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Episode Overview

This episode blends lively sports banter and analysis with a dose of humor as Dan Patrick and the crew recap a packed sports weekend. The main focuses are the enduring spectacle of the Kentucky Derby and the fallout from the Celtics’ playoff exit, spotlighting Jaylen Brown’s post-series complaints. Alongside deep dives into these topics, the show features fan calls, debates over NBA officiating and “flopping,” quirky hypothetical questions, and touching notes on the passing of legendary Yankees broadcaster John Sterling.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Kentucky Derby: Enduring Spectacle

• Viewership & Cultural Status: Dan highlights the Derby’s robust popularity, noting over 19 million viewers this year—outdrawing last summer's NBA Finals Game 7 (6:11). He likens Derby parties to March Madness, where "your wife, daughters, you, your friends... Everybody's picking a horse" (6:30).
• Tradition vs. Progress in Horse Racing: Dan marvels at how, despite sports trending toward more power and speed, Secretariat's 1973 Derby record remains untouched by a whopping 2.5 seconds—about 15 lengths:

  "Here we are, more than five decades later, and the sport is still not produced anyone capable of matching this horse's brilliance." (6:56)

• Spectacle Overnames: Regardless of who’s racing, the event’s pageantry, outfits, and the drama captivate viewers every year. He also notes that nearly every horse this year is a descendant of Secretariat (7:06).

Memorable Banter & Hypotheticals

• The Danettes spark laughs debating if winning multiple Kentucky Derbys would be worth being permanently the “height of a jockey” (7:29).
  • Todd: "There is not. Me, personally, I'd rather be my average height and not be able to say I won any Kentucky Derbys." (7:52)
• Betting Talk: They discuss personal Derby bets—from small family pools (Paul lost $40; his daughter won $40, 9:36) to Dylan’s “brown liquor day” with mint juleps and multiple drinks (9:04-9:22).

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2. NBA Playoff Recap: 76ers Finish Off Celtics

• Celtics’ Collapse: Dan expresses surprise at Boston’s exit and doesn’t endorse breaking up Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, noting, "there are not many teams in the NBA who have players that size and that talent" (10:00).
• Embiid’s Play & Influence: Joel Embiid’s playoff leadership earns high praise:

  "He's playing the angles. He knows where his sweet spots are. He put up 34 points." (11:45)
  Dan compares him to Nikola Jokic: "Not as skilled, but...eventually you see players who just know how to play the game" (11:45).

• Philadelphia’s Resilience: After blowout losses, the Sixers adapt and eliminate Boston even without Tatum for Game 7, earning Dan's respect.

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3. The Home Court Debate: Embiid’s Plea to Sixers Fans

• Fans Selling Tickets: Embiid urges Philly fans not to sell playoff tickets to travel-savvy Knicks fans who often "take over" visiting arenas.
  • Quote: Joel Embiid:

    "Last time we played the Knicks, it felt like this was Madison Square Garden East... Don't sell your tickets... If you need money, I got you." (12:46)

• Dan’s Reflections: He’s struck that Embiid needs to plead with notoriously passionate Philly fans—“That's what kind of surprised me there” (13:30)—and draws comparisons to other fan bases.

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4. Jaylen Brown’s Sour Grapes: Officiating & Flopping Accusations

• Brown’s Complaints: Following Boston’s loss, Jaylen Brown—on his Twitch channel—lashes out at perceived officiating bias and singles out Embiid’s flopping:
  • Quote: Jaylen Brown

    "Flopping has ruined our game. Jordan [Joel] Embiid is a great player... He know it. This ain't breaking news." (23:52)

  • About refs:

    "It clearly had an agenda. Like maybe because I. I spoke in those. Critical of the refs in the regular season... You're gonna lead the playoffs in offensive fouls." (24:52)

• Dan’s Response:

  "You're trying to tell me that the officials said to you, 'Hey, we got an agenda. We're going to call these offensive fouls on you.' Really?" (25:28)
  Dan questions the logic and points out the dangers for the NBA, referencing the Tim Donaghy scandal and how claims of bias or "agenda" fuel conspiracy theories about the league (31:58-32:40).

Notable Quotes

• Paul: “It's almost like Jalen Brown is answering his own question… all season if you ride the refs... the more flak you give the refs, the worse it's going to work out for you long term.” (28:47)

• Marvin: "And I think this is another black eye on the NBA, because a lot of people already think, 'Oh, The NBA's scripted NBA's rigged.'" (31:35)

• Dan: "[Rigged] is bad. Agenda is a maybe dressed up version there." (34:48)

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5. Other Weekend Sports Notes

• LeBron's Longevity: Callers highlight LeBron James' ageless playoff effort. The show salutes his sustained excellence at age 41 and speculates on his legacy and "farewell tour" (36:27–39:19).

• Passing of John Sterling: Dan pays tribute to the legendary Yankees broadcaster John Sterling:

  "Incredible run for John... When you thought of the Yankees, you certainly thought of his calls." (18:55)

• NBA Change Debates: Listeners and Danettes debate whether the Celtics should break up Tatum and Brown; most callers—and Paul—argue for re-tooling, not breaking up the duo (37:51).

• Kevin Durant’s Peripatetic Career: Speculation arises that KD could leave the Rockets after another disappointing season (38:29).

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6. Humor, Hypotheticals & Odd Debates

• Syllables in “Charles”: A fan’s quirky call sparks a spirited discussion and a demonstration of the “clap test” for syllables. Is it one or two? Dan sides with Paul: “Unless you're... well, depending how Charles says it.” (47:25)
• Derby Poll Questions: Should anyone accept living as a jockey’s height for a Triple Crown win? 67% say no (50:24).
• NBA Three-Point “Problem”: Marvin notes Boston's off-night: "They shot 49 threes... They're the poster children of man. All they do is jack up threes. So they're ruining the game too" (36:00).

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [06:10] – Derby viewership, comparison to NBA Finals, why it’s still an “event”
• [07:29] – “Would you trade your height for Derby wins?” debate
• [09:22] – Danette’s betting recaps, mint juleps and family Derby pools
• [10:00] – Should Celtics break up Tatum/Brown? NBA analysis
• [12:46] – Joel Embiid’s plea to Sixers fans about ticket reselling
• [23:40] – Jaylen Brown’s comments on Embiid flopping and officiating “agenda”
• [25:28] – Dan’s rebuttal and the ramifications of agenda claims
• [31:35] – The danger of rigged/scripting conspiracy theories post-Donaghy
• [36:27] – LeBron’s continued dominance, Celtics’ playoff woes revisited
• [39:19] – Jordan vs. LeBron: "All defensive" debates
• [47:25] – The great “Charles” syllable debate

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Memorable Quotes

• Dan Patrick [on the Derby]:
  "The Kentucky Derby always, always delivers. And it was fun, fun to watch." (7:17)

• Jaylen Brown [on Embiid and officiating]:
  "Flopping has ruined our game ... It clearly had an agenda. ... You’re gonna lead the playoffs in offensive fouls." (23:52, 24:52)

• Dan Patrick [on agenda accusations]:
  “If I'm the commissioner, I want to talk to Jaylen Brown today. ... You either tell me the officials names or retract this and you made a mistake.” (29:59)

• Marvin [on NBA conspiracy theories]:
  "This is another black eye on the NBA, because a lot of people already think, 'Oh, The NBA's scripted, NBA's rig[ged].'" (31:35)

• Dan Patrick [humor, on Derby height debate]:
  “It’s always amazing what Todd takes from something because he always takes something different than anybody else does. And it’s almost always negative.” (50:41)

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Poll Results & Listener Interactions

• Derby Betting Poll: 74% bet “none at all”; family and fun trump high stakes (50:14)
• Celtics Should Break Up Tatum/Brown? 56% say yes (50:25)
• Would You Trade Height for Triple Crown Win? 67% say “nah” (50:24)
• Listener Calls:
  • Best/worst of the weekend
  • Tributes to John Sterling ([48:29])
  • Odd debates (syllables in “Charles”)

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Tone & Style

The episode balances Dan’s trademark mix of sharp sports commentary, light-hearted debate, and camaraderie with the Danettes. The tone swings from enthusiastic praise for classic sports traditions to bemused skepticism about modern NBA controversies and playful engagement with listener calls and hypotheticals.

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Summary

If you missed this episode, expect a signature blend of sports analysis and irreverent humor. Dan celebrates the Kentucky Derby’s unchanged magic, explores the chaos of the NBA playoffs with a focus on the Celtics-Sixers drama, and addresses Jaylen Brown’s officiating accusations head-on. The show is peppered with gambling stories, peculiar hypotheticals, a thoughtful homage to John Sterling, and listener-driven WTH debates, all delivered in the easy, bantering style that defines The Dan Patrick Show.

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Transcript

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Everybody is doing a pool. Kentucky Derby pool. Your wife, daughters, you, your friends. Everybody's picking a horse. Everybody's watching. You have parties where you get dressed up and it feels like just like March Madness. It's still an event. It doesn't matter who's in it. It's still an event and there's still surprises. And that was the beauty of what you saw with the Kentucky Derby. Because when you think about the Derby, it's kind of standing still in time. It's still about the spectacle of the power and precision, the pageantry, the outfits, the horses. Everything looks beautiful manicured. But when you think about the Derby in today's society with sports, everything is. You're getting bigger and stronger and better and faster, more powerful. Golden Tempo's winning time on Saturday was just over 2 minutes and 2 seconds. Now, that's an impressive run. Secretariat's 1973 finish was 1 minute, 59 seconds, 59.4. So the gap of more than 2 1/2 seconds and you go, okay, that's not too bad. That would be 15 lengths. So 2 1/2 seconds equates to over 15 lengths. His Secretariat would have won the Derby by 15 over Golden Tempo. So here we are, more than five decades later, and the sport is still not produced anyone capable of matching this horse's brilliance. And when you realize all but one horse was a descendant of Secretariat in the Kentucky Derby, but the Derby legend, it's still alive. History is constantly being rewritten, but with the Derby, it's not. But it is still an incredible event. And you had this one, you know, wonderful last to first dash. And, you know, it's one of those where you go, I'm glad I'm watching it. You know, it's. It's one of those where you say, what time is it? Well, it's six o'. Clock. They usually try to go off, get everybody, put it in, put into the gate at around 46, 45 Eastern. And they like to get them out, going at 6:57. And it was fun. You know, you get a female trainer, great interviews. But on NBC, Peacock did a wonderful job all afternoon long because you get to know the horses, it's like studying for a final. You're cramming. You don't know anything about horse racing. You might think you do, but then all of a sudden, here you go, here's the horses, here's the story, here's the jockey, here's the owner, here's the trainer. And the Kentucky Derby always, always delivers. And it was fun, fun to watch. Fritz, he sends me a note, he goes, and I know what's going to happen because Fritzi will somehow have a negative thought. And Fritz, he almost missed the Derby. So Fritz, he goes, how many Derby wins would it take for you to be promised to be the height of a jockey?

[Todd]

Little insensitive. We got into that a little bit last week with you could be 8ft tall or 2ft tall and all that. I was just wondering, like, how many Kentucky Derby wins. If they said you're guaranteed to win 1, 2, 3, but you have to be, you know, the height of a jockey.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, okay. I always ask you the question that you ask me. Is there a number of Kentucky derbies that if I promise you five, but you're going to be the height of

[Todd]

a jockey, there is not me personally. I, you know, I'd rather be my average height and not be able to say I won any Kentucky Derbys.

[Dan Patrick]

I can live with that and not accomplish anything in life.

[Todd]

I would say not accomplish anything in life, but just the Kentucky Derby. Wouldn't be that much of a deal to change my size, of my stature okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Dylan.

[Dylan]

What if you won the triple Crown, Todd?

[Todd]

Oh, that's a whole other story.

[Dan Patrick]

So if you're like Billy Shoemaker, Willie Shoemaker.

[Todd]

Win a lot of money off of that too.

[Dan Patrick]

Steam cawthon. How about that nice poll?

[Todd]

That opens the stable a little bit on what where I would go with. With the height.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Do we have a legitimate poll question today, Dylan?

[Dylan]

Oh, you want a legitimate one?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, let's try. Let's do something different today. By the way, best and worst of the weekend. What you saw, that you liked, you didn't like. You can dial up Tyler H77 3DP show.

[Dylan]

Okay, well, this one's also from Todd. Just prefacing it. How much did you bet on the Derby? More than 10, 100, a thousand or none at all? Just the love of the game.

[Dan Patrick]

I did see a social media video of you. I don't know what you bet, but I was betting how many beers you probably had, and I was going to bet around nine or ten.

[Dylan]

It was actually, it was more of a brown liquor day, Dan. Which probably explains that.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, were you doing bourbon?

[Dylan]

I was drinking some mint juleps.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. And you were chasing it with Miller Light, which nice.

[Dylan]

A Miller like chaser. Couple nighttime bloody Marys. Got some looks about that, but it was a nice smattering.

[Dan Patrick]

Anybody bet any money?

[Dylan]

Yes, I did. I bet a little more than $100 total in the race spread across God knows what. And I basically make a donation every derby day.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Paul?

[Paul]

My wife and kids and I, we each put in $10, but I ended up putting $10 in for everybody. So I lost 40. My daughter won 40.

[Dan Patrick]

Any other poll questions?

[Dylan]

We've got one off of an NBA poll. Would you like that?

[Dan Patrick]

Then let me, you know, do a drive by here. Let me see if there's something that'll stick.

[Dylan]

Should Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown part ways? This is part of a larger Celtics

[Dan Patrick]

question, I think, but okay, I would say no, because there are not many teams in the NBA who have players that size in that talent. Now, I know that it didn't work out. Give credit to Philadelphia. Philadelphia figured out something because they got blown out twice by over 30 points in this series. And then all of a sudden, Jason Tatum's not there to play. And the Boston Celtics, even though they're at home, Philadelphia was resilient and Joel Embiid played great. Tobias Harris, come on down. The backcourt is already really, really good. But that's one of those where if you're not hitting Your shots. And we saw this with Boston. That's their M.O. these are playoff games. This is in regular season where your three might not be as contested. Well, they weren't hitting their shots. And Philadelphia, I mean, I watch him bead and he just sort of moves. I mean, it's not quick, not fast. He's not jumping. It's. He's playing the angles. He knows where his sweet spots are. He put up 34 points. And I think that's the amazing part is eventually you see players who just know how to play the game. They're not athletic. As far as end to end and jumping. This is where you see the guy on the playground who might be 45 years of age and he's the best player. Why? Because he knows how to play basketball. Embiid can't do what he once did. There's a Nikola Jokic feel to his game now. Not as skilled, but still to be out there to come back from surgery, all of his surgeries, be able to play. And now you got Paul George. They both played 38 games, so they are fresh, but they might not be completely healthy. And all the surgeries they've had and injuries they've had, but Philadelphia, and I said this to a couple of people. I thought that the Knicks built their roster to beat Boston. They didn't build their roster to beat the Sixers. That's what I want to see with the matchup. Now, I know the Knicks are favored. They're favored by seven and a half tonight. Even Joel Embiid said, hey, when the series goes to Philadelphia, don't sell your tickets. I can't imagine any other place that might say this. Any other star athlete who would say, hey, whatever you do, don't sell your tickets. The Eagles that they would never have, Jaylen Herz would never have to say, hey, don't sell your tickets to the Giants. Here is Joel Embiid after the win.

[Todd]

I just have a message for our fans. Last time we played the Knicks, it felt like. Felt like this was Madison Square, Garnet East. So we going to need the support, you know, don't sell your tickets. We need you guys. The atmosphere that we've had the last couple of games in Philly, especially the last one, pushing it to game seven. I mean, we need all of it. I don't care if it's 70, 30, you know, snakes fans that travel, they're going back to tickets and there's going to be, you know, some people that need the money. And I, you know, probably going to sell Tickets, but don't do it. If you need money, I got you.

[Dan Patrick]

All right? All right.

[Paul]

I got you.

[Dan Patrick]

But Jalen Brunson isn't saying this to Nick fans. Why is it more important or feels like it's more important for the Knick fans. Fans than it is for the Sixer fans? That's what kind of surprised me there. And granted, you know, we've seen, you know, home teams, fans sell their tickets, but this Philadelphia. Well, this Philadelphia, it's different. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

But Knicks fans are going to travel. That's a quick trip. That's a quick train ride.

[Dan Patrick]

It's a quick trip from Philly to New York. True, but it's the same.

[Marvin]

But the Garden, it's so expensive. I know that it's ridiculous.

[Dan Patrick]

I know that.

[Marvin]

I'd rather take a train. It's going to be less expensive to take a train, get a hotel, and get tickets to the Sixers than just a regular old ticket to the Garden.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Are you surprised that Embiid has to say to Philly fans, don't sell your tickets?

[Marvin]

No. You're not surprised because he saw it two years ago, that playoff series. It was almost like the Hawks against the Knicks last playoff series, where it was like, man, is this Madison Square? Gardner, State Farm Arena. That's what it's going to look like in Philadelphia if they keep selling their tickets to Knicks fans.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Paul Embiid also said Madison Square Garden, East. I think it would be south or west. I'm not an expert.

[Dan Patrick]

He did everything right except for, you know, the direction. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

I think it's less shocking, more sad that he has to say something like that to me. Like, you have to implore or plead with the fans to, you know, show up. Don't sell the tickets to the Knicks fans. It's kind of weak.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, John. Yes.

[Todd]

Major city like Philly.

[Dylan]

Philly is one of those fan bases, though, where you would expect, like, playoff for any of the major sports. They're selling out all the home tickets.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Dylan]

I am surprised.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Like, I get it. If you're a Dolphins fan and you say, hey, don't sell your tickets, you know, to Giants fans or Patriot fans when they come down. I. I understand that, but you would think Philly, that's a unbelievable fan base, you know, the Dolphins. Not necessarily, but it just kind of surprised me a little bit. The other part of it was, and I got to watch a lot of this series, and because I thought Boston was going to go to the Eastern Conference finals, I thought they would go to the NBA Finals. I really did. I thought everything, the pieces were kind of falling in place and they would Tatum back. Jalen Brown did a wonderful job the entire year. Then you started to see where Derek White's not quite the Olympian we thought he was. Peyton Pritchard, you know, you just play off basketball and it's, it's just a different feel, everything about it. And Jaylen Brown was complaining after the loss, after the end of the series. I'm going to bring back some of the things that he had to say after the loss. And I was a little surprised because when you're up 3:1, I didn't hear him complaining about any officiating or you're up three two, I didn't hear anything. And, and maybe I didn't read everything in the Boston Globe or online, but all of a sudden you lose and now all of a sudden you're complaining that there was an agenda. Embiid gets to flop, you know, and which you can have two things be correct. But I've never ever seen where when you complain publicly and he did during the regular season, he did say that he can't get away with what other players can get away with offensive fouls that are called on him when he raises his arm when he's, you know, trying to get a shot off. But I'll bring that back. Some of the things that he had to say. Your phone calls are always welcome. Best and worst of the weekend. We'll get to those coming up and make sure you go to rectech.com and sign up and your chance to win a Rec Tech grill. That'll be on May 15th. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, is Cavino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yup, that's right. You can now watch Covino enrich live on YouTube every day. All you gotta do search Covino Enrich FSR on YouTube again. Go to YouTube search Covinoenrich FSR. Check us out on YouTube. Subscribe hit that thumbs up icon and comment away.

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[Jalen Brown]

This is my personal opinion on basketball. Some of y' all might disagree, but argue with your grandma flopping has ruined our game. Jordan Bead is a great player. One of the best bigs in basketball history.

[Dan Patrick]

Flops.

[Jalen Brown]

He know it. This ain't. This ain't breaking news. It is what it is. I can clip it up. Like I said, y' all can post it on these paid accounts that y'.

[Dan Patrick]

All.

[Jalen Brown]

These bot.

[Dan Patrick]

Whatever. Okay, I want to understand the context of Jalen Brown's comments because Joe LB doesn't get to call a foul on somebody else if he flops. It's not his fault. You do what you can get away with until you can't get away with it. This isn't about Joel Embiid. Now, Jaylen Brown doesn't want to go after the officials because he doesn't want to be fined. But does Embiid flop? Yes. How many guys in the NBA flop? If you can. You do. It's not one of those. I'll never lower myself and. And flop. They. Most of them do. If you can get away with it, Then Jaylen Brown went on to talk about the referees in the playoffs.

[Jalen Brown]

It clearly had an agenda. Like maybe because I. I spoke in those. Critical of the reps in the regular season. So, you know, they. How they responded. Like, we gonna call every. We're gonna.

[Todd]

We're gonna.

[Jalen Brown]

You're gonna lead the playoffs in offensive fouls. That's how. That was the response from the officiating crew. You could clearly tell. And I. And I've actually spoke to some refs and they said it wasn't. It was agenda going into each game. So anytime Jalen brings his arm up just from reputation, just call it. Paul George does the same thing. Jalen Brunson does the same thing. I can go down the list. It's a basketball play, whether y' all believe it or not.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, I don't believe it. You're trying to tell me that the officials said to you, hey, we got an agenda. We're going to call these offensive fouls on you. Really? And he says agenda, like that's the key word. So it's premeditated. Hey, in the playoffs, hey, you complained about us during the regular season. We're going to have an agenda to call this against you. Did they do that when you're up 31 or 3 2? I get it. You're upset. You guys should have won this series. But you gave them life. You gave them the opportunity. Then all of a sudden they go. You know, teams when they're down 3 one can either go, yeah, we got no shot here, or, man, all we got to do is win one game. And then one game, Detroit did it, Philly did it. I'm going to give them credit. Was there an agenda? I don't believe so. Now, is there something subconscious? It happens because you were complaining about the officials. Are you naming. Can you give me the names of the officials who said there's an agenda? When did you talk to them? Now we have something here. If you're going to call them out, then let me know who you talk to. File a complaint. But you can't put a blanket over this, open up a large umbrella and say, yep, there's an agenda here. Does Joe Ellen Bead flop? Yes, he does. There's quite a few guys who flop. And I would say to Jaylen Brown, why don't you flop just occasionally? Okay, yes, Todd.

[Todd]

Jaylen Brown should start wearing a wire, and then he can just play it for Adam Silver. If he's got that kind of relationship with the refs where they open up to him like that. Just, you know, put the mic on.

[Dan Patrick]

I can't imagine an official and, you know, Jalen's going, man, why do I get called? You know, it's like offensive fouls all the time. Well, there's an agenda against you. Oh, well, let me ask another official. Maybe another official, like, how many officials did you talk to? Said, we have an agenda. You guys lost. You guys were a great story. That's part of it. If I said at the beginning of the year, Tatum, don't know if he's coming back, but you're going to be up 3:1 on the Sixers to go into the second round and face the Knicks, you would go, oh, my God, I'll sign up for it. Then all of a sudden, Jaylen Brown has a wonderful season. He's carrying you. Then all of a sudden, J, you know, Tatum comes back. Now all of a sudden, the expectations go through the roof, and now it becomes a disappointment. Where this was a feel good story that you got this far. Then you're up 3:1 and you let it slip away. That's on you. That's on the Celtics. That's on your head coach, who put out a lineup. I needed a program. I didn't know who they were. And I'm thinking you got most of your starting lineup, hasn't played, hasn't started a playoff game. Man, that to me was what shocked me. Like, what are you. What are you doing? Yeah, Paulie.

[Paul]

It's almost like Jalen Brown is answering his own question. And then that clip you played, he said, I Complained about the refs all season, and now in the playoffs, I'm not getting calls. What do you think's going to happen all season if you ride the refs and they're going to turn around and favor you in the postseason? It's a cycle. And the more flak you give the refs, the worst it's going to work out for you long term.

[Dan Patrick]

I can't imagine. I mean, let's just use logic. When you're constantly nagging somebody, complaining, and it never stops, and then you want them to, you know, you want to benefit from that. Like, well, wait a minute. You're. You're turning again. You got an agenda against me? Yeah, you had an agenda against me. How's it feel if that happened? Like, the referees are human. Obviously you're going to be complaining constantly. What do you think they're going to do? You know what? On second thought, you're right. These officials have egos. They're like, who are you to be telling me how to call a game? Yes, Todd, and what a rep. Say,

[Todd]

I got to get this guy off my back. I got to give him a couple of calls. I just can't have him in my ear so much. And maybe that's what I have to do, just wink at a few things for him.

[Dan Patrick]

It does happen, I think, with some coaches. I think if, if or. And there have been players. But it's how you ask for something. It's how you point something out. Then you could get calls. Tony Gwynn told me, he said, I didn't have to say anything. I just had to look, you know, my, my, my body language told the umpire that that wasn't a strike, and he said I would get calls. You know, Maddox and Glavin never complained. They, they got those calls. Well, they had nothing to complain about because they were getting. So it's. What are you saying and how. How are you saying it? But I can't imagine if. I'm the commissioner. I want to talk to Jaylen Brown today. I'd like to have details here. Jalen, you said this. I want to follow up. I want to be fair to your complaint. But you either tell me the officials names or retract this and you made a mistake. But I can't have. We've always thought that certain players, there's a bias for or against them. Like Draymond Green complains all the time. Rasheed Wallace complained all the time. Do you think they got the benefit of the doubt? The answer is no. That's what's surprising with Jaylen Brown. You're better than this. You got beat. You played well. You didn't have Tatum in there. You know what? Take. Take the licking, man. Move on. Yes, Marv.

[Marvin]

And I think this is another black eye on the NBA, because a lot of people already think, oh, The NBA scripted NBA's rig. And now people are just kind of second guessing, which isn't true because it's the Celtics. It's not like it's the Indiana Pacers or some type of small market team. This is the preeminent team in the NBA. So I'm not buying that, but it gives people, like a second look.

[Dan Patrick]

But the NBA despises this. They hate when there's a conspiracy theory. They do. And knowing that firsthand, being around commissioner Stern, who any. Any thought of impropriety, any thought of somehow the games are rigged, you do not want to be around that man. And if he was the commissioner and Jaylen Brown said this, he'd probably have Jaylen Brown in the New York office there. Let's talk about this. Yes, Dylan, Would you say of all

[Dylan]

the leagues, the NBA's by far the most sensitive to, I guess you could say, allegations like this, just given the history.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, they should be, because Tim Donaghy and that to me, you know, I know that David Stern called him a rogue official as if to say, no other official is involved in this. He would always say that rogue official. Do I think there are other officials that were involved or attached to Tim Donaghy? I do. I do. But when you start to think of an official could make a call, not make a call making money, working with bad guys. Now all of a sudden. But we do this with the NFL. Anytime there's a point spread, and all of a sudden they nail the point spread, Fritzi will always come in and say, how do they do this? You know, how.it's like they know what the outcome is going to be.

[Todd]

I don't want to call it fix, but you could be the greatest mathematicians in the world. It's just. It's like a women's high school soccer game, and they got it by a half a goal. Or a lacrosse game, they just do it on all levels to the half point. Is amazing to me.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Paulie.

[Paul]

But if you go back to that Tim Donaghy betting scandal, he was a ref, and it happened in 2007. I remember you being on the air. And for everyone who had that conspiracy itch, there is a face. We have a story. It's real. And that like opened the floodgates for those type of people.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Because I don't know who these officials are that Jaylen Brown is pointing out, but I'd like to know who they are. If I'm the commissioner, this is a big problem. I'm telling a player that there's an agenda against him. And agenda is the word that just kind of jumps off the page. Yeah, Marvin.

[Marvin]

And now there's always an excuse when you lose or your team loses. Oh, it's rigged. They didn't want us to win. Why would they not want the Celtics to win of all teams?

[Dan Patrick]

You don't want to say the word rigged. That'll get you in real trouble for sure. You can't say rigged. You could you. You could say felt like they wanted Philadelphia to win or I wouldn't even say that. It'd be like Philly seemed to get more of the calls that were probably 50. 50 calls.

[Marvin]

Yes, Mark, but agenda and rigged, they're into kind of the same ballpark. They live in the same neighborhood.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, it's a cul de sac. Rigged is bad. Agenda is a maybe dressed up version there.

[Marvin]

It's on the earlier part of the street.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, yes.

[Dylan]

The agenda is to rig it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Todd, because the follow up question

[Todd]

by any journalist would be like, and why would you say that? Why would you think they would give them more of the calls and then that opens the door to someone manipulating or rigging something.

[Dan Patrick]

I would think you would want Boston to continue to play. Boston versus the Knicks feels bigger than the Sixers versus the Knicks.

[Paul]

Yes, Paulie, rigged is one street away from the top tier, which is fixed.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Fixes the killer word.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. A couple of phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. And Jalen Brown could be correct because he's a very thoughtful player. He's a smart player. But maybe they are favoring Philadelphia or they're not favoring you with, you know, your offensive style.

[Marvin]

Yes, Mark, Jalen Brown talked about flopping was ruining their game. But another complaint a lot of fans have about the current NBA is all the threes that they were taking. The Celtics are the poster child of why a lot of people hate the NBA. They shot 49 threes on Saturday night, as opposed to the 76ers shooting 28. So they're the poster children of man. All they do is jack up threes. So they're ruining the game too.

[Dan Patrick]

Chris in Syracuse. Hi, Chris.

[Chris]

Thanks, Dan. I got best and worst for you. Best lebron James Friday night, still at age 41, being able to dial back and fend off Father Time and carry the Lakers in a decisive Game 6. But even LeBron can't keep that up for, at his age, for the long haul. I think this May and June, the torch is officially passed on to WEMBY and SGA and next year for LeBron's farewell tour probably will be back where it started in Cleveland. And they'll hope that Donovan Mitchell, Mobley Allen can get him another title on the way out the door. And I'm sure Bronny will be along for the ride. And my worst. Yeah, Boston Celtics, two years in a row, now bounced early as favorites in the playoffs. And if it had been the Knicks who lost to Philly or had lost to Atlanta, they'd be yelling for the mountaintops, break them up. But I agree with you, they shouldn't. They're. They're a big away. I mean, I think Porzingis left a big void. And the Celtics with Tatum, he did miss game seven, but first Philly. But there was also. He was there for most of the series, and they played really well without him this year. And last year they lost to the Knicks and Tatum missed Game 6, but they had him in Games 1 and 2 in Boston, and the Knicks blew him out by 20 in both. So it's going to be interesting to see what Brad Stevens and the Celtics do. And do you move. Who do you move? Brown or the injury play Tatum and. And you got the coach of the year who could be on the hot seat. He could be the. The next Tom Thibodeau. Yeah, it's a. It's a big off season for the Boston Celtics.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Chris. And then didn't you have Jalen Brown saying that the Sixers were better without Joel Embiid in the lineup, but they seem to move the ball better. I mean, it's like the Rockets. The Rockets. That. That feels like that's a mess inside that locker room with Kevin Durant and their reports that his teammates weren't thrilled about Kevin Durant. His burner account like that. Man, Kevin Durant will be on a new team next year and then probably the year after that. What a weird career, really. Yes, Marv.

[Marvin]

It's crazy that he's been on so many teams because we thought he was going to be, quote, unquote, anti LeBron, where he was going to stay in Oklahoma City his entire career. And he's five, six teams now. It's like a journeyman Jim Jackson level almost Whoa.

[Dan Patrick]

Jim Jackson will join us later on. Easy there, Marvin. Yeah, Kevin Durant situation at bad. But give credit to LeBron and the Lakers. You know Reeves came back. They're not going to have Luca, I don't think. And you're going against okc. But still, and we love to do this, Michael at this age or later in his career wouldn't have been able to do this. And you might be right. Like Mike at the Wizards was a good player. LeBron can still be a very good player.

[Paul]

Yeah, Paulie, the Michael argument is he played 82 games for 10 years straight. He didn't have a 50 start season and a 62 start season mixed in there to load manage.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paul]

I get defensive.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paul]

All defensive by the way. He was all defensive.

[Dan Patrick]

You're all defensive just like my first team. All right, how about we take a break. More phone calls coming up and our play of the day next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Paul]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Listener Callers]

Kale McCarr doesn't take the shot.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul]

That's your squad.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to take them. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, I'm no hockey Expert, but in 60 minutes of hockey.

[Dan Patrick]

How bizarre.

[Todd]

How could you have single digit shots on goal? How could that even happen? How could you not accidentally be somewhere on the ice where you can get a chance to shoot it at the goalie more than nine times over the course of that period?

[Dan Patrick]

Lucas, in Texas, you just told. I, I mean that.

[Todd]

Too obvious. Maybe that was obvious.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, what can I tell you?

[Todd]

Everything I say doesn't have to be like something, you know, retort back.

[Dan Patrick]

But you ask a question, you say,

[Todd]

how can that happen? I guess I'm asking you to explain to me how that would happen. But you can.

[Dan Patrick]

I, I don't know. They just took fewer shots. They couldn't get shots off.

[Todd]

It's a very rare thing.

[Dan Patrick]

That's why we're talking about Lucas in Texas. Hi, Luke. What's on your mind today?

[Listener Callers]

Hey, Dan, Good morning.

[Dan Patrick]

Good morning.

[Listener Callers]

Hard to follow that hard hitting hockey analysis, but I'll try my best. Best and worst of the weekend. I did not have a worst until I heard on air that John Sterling died. Hate to hear of great baseball voices passing on best. Just love seeing all the game sevens. Just love seeing the playoff season in full swing. It's a lot of fun. I do have a question for you and for the team. I got into a really Dumb debate. And you guys are the kings of dumb debates. And so I need your help.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you.

[Listener Callers]

The famed basketball analyst Charles Barkley.

[Chris]

Really?

[Listener Callers]

I just want to analyze that first name. You are obviously a professional broadcaster. You care about dictation very much. Can you please answer this question? How many syllables are in the name Charles? Because it was a fierce debate between one or two syllables.

[Dan Patrick]

Dylan, how many syllables in the word are named Charles? Two. Okay. Todd.

[Todd]

I was gonna say one.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin.

[Marvin]

Two.

[Dan Patrick]

Paul.

[Paul]

I think it's supposed to be one. I just looked it up. Do you want the answer?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul]

It's a bit of a debate because Charles does not have an up and down, but you could pronounce it Charles, and now you've had a stress on the first part of it and you developed it into two syllables. But historically, one syllable, I would think one syllable, Charles.

[Dan Patrick]

Unless you're. Well, depending how Charles says it. Yes, Todd, I could have sworn I

[Todd]

learned as like a kid in elementary school, like, you do the clap. That's how you do syllables. That's how they taught it when I was looking like Charles. That's one, right? Charles, Not Charles. I don't know. I'm pretty sure I remember my first grade teacher doing like you clap to figure out the number of syllables of a word.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Well, if you're British, it might be sound like one symbol, like Charles, but we did that. We learned that it's the amount of times your chin goes down when you say it. So if you put your hand on your chin, you go, char rolls. Your chin goes down.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but I don't say char rolls.

[Dylan]

Charles.

[Dan Patrick]

It's Charles.

[Dylan]

Charles. I think that's still twice.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Paul.

[Paul]

I think Dylan has a point. In Great Britain, Charles is defined as one syllable and you do not go up and down. They said in the southern dialect. In America, it's more likely to be Charles.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, back to you. Thank you. Hopefully that helped you, Lucas. Buddha in San Francisco. Good morning, Buddha. What's on your mind?

[Listener Callers]

Oh, man. Make room for that Emmy, boys. What up, pp? Happy Monday, boys. Every day's a Super Bowl. Let's go, back row. RIP John Sterling, vp. I've been lucky to live a sports life. I mean, listening to the likes of Chick Hearn, Al Michaels, John Madden, Jim Nance, Vin Scully. I mean, I know there's others, but John Sterling was a staple and also a favorite of seasons. I mean, he certainly had some funny calls for home runs, man. One of a kind. But best of the weekend, Dan. Best of of all, the players in the NBA, Joel Embiid needed this playoff win the most. I mean, it's. It's not going to help his MVP trophy age any better because I don't care what you say, Jokic still should have won that year, but it was still nice to see him win that series and play well. Dude's been hampered and, you know, just good for him. Worst of the weekend, Dan. Getting excited to watch both these games. Sevens yesterday. And then getting. And then listening to the fans chanting Angel Reese while her boyfriend, Wendell Carter, was it the free throw line? And then he misses. No,

[Dan Patrick]

thank you, Buddha. Yeah. Wendell Carter Jr. The third, reportedly dating Angel Reese. I think he's a better shooter than her, but he goes to the free throw line. Can we check and see What Wendell Carter Jr. The third shoots from the free throw line.

[Paul]

Yeah, luckily I had that on my screen. As always, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paul]

He is shooting, oh, 79 this year

[Dan Patrick]

from the free throw. Okay. All right. Yeah, but she was in the building and they were. They were roughing him up a little bit there. Update the poll results if you can. Dylan. This first hour flew by.

[Dylan]

Alrighty, then. We have a few, actually. How much did you wager on The Kentucky Derby? 74% say none.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Dylan]

And that followed by more than $10.

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Dylan]

Should Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown part ways as Celtics teammates? 56% say yes. And then would you take a Triple Crown win if it meant being jockey height the rest of your life? 67% say nah.

[Dan Patrick]

It's. It's always amazing what Todd takes from something because he always takes something different than anybody else does. And it's almost always negative.

[Todd]

I'm just watching it like, I won. I won the race. And all the other jockeys and horses are congratulating. They come up to him. They ride alongside them.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think the horse is congratulating him.

[Todd]

Well, I still wanted to make it look like he made a little smile, but it looks like I'm wondering if he's like, I won the Kentucky Trevor. But I'm still so sure. That's what I wondered.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm being honest. One hour in the books, two more to go. More phone calls coming up on this Monday. Best and worst of the weekend.

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