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Brady Quinn
And Doug. What a horrible call. Hey ref.
Jonas Knox
Open your eyes. Ref. You're really not gonna call that?
Brady Quinn
Come on.
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Hey ref, why don't you customize your car insurance with Liberty Mutual and save money? I don't think you get what we're doing. Sure I do.
Brady Quinn
We're all just giving him advice. You guys on sports, me on saving money. Nope, that's not it.
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Brady Quinn
Good morning. A Merry belated Christmas. Belated? I mean, how do you even go about saying that the day after? Can you still say Merry Christmas after Christmas?
Jonas Knox
I don't think so. I think that's kind of, that's, that's a wrap. And then now did you do the, the typical tradition of you didn't even wait till the end of the day and all the, like, all the lights, everything is down. Decorations. Okay.
Brady Quinn
All right. Do you want to just go ahead and give this some context so our listeners understand the backstory here? Just one Christmas, now all of a sudden, you know, I'm that guy.
Jonas Knox
Listen, I'm with you. Like the second Christmas is over, that's a wrap. It's time to stop.
Brady Quinn
Okay. A few years ago we got, I mean, our kids get up so early. Our, our, our middle child, Cassidy is five. Now. She was probably two at the time, but she was, I mean, she has always gotten up early in the morning, probably like at 6 at the latest. So she would wake up the rest of the of our kids and they would all go down to open gifts. So we'd be up early. We'd be. And by the way, anyone who, who goes through Christmas with your kids, it's a wrap in like 20 minutes. I mean, all the time shopping, all the stress over trying to make sure that you're getting your kid something that they love, something that they want, everything that goes along with that and it's done in like 20 minutes tops.
Jonas Knox
It's a Kentucky Derby.
Brady Quinn
And it's just like as a parent, you're like, oh yeah, I forgot like all this build up and it goes by so fast. So it was a beautiful day and we really were just kind of hanging out and playing. I think some of the kids ended up taking a nap and I was like, well, I've gotta, I've gotta leave after this Because I had to work. So I think I was flying out the next day. So I'm like, I'm gonna start taking stuff down so I don't have to do this when I get back. Because I was gonna be gone for a little bit, and now Jonas thinks that I'm this, like, Grinch, this ball humbug type guy that as soon as Christmas ends, I just start taking everything in down. I'm no longer celebrating the holiday, which is not the case. I. Although I will say our tree is already at the curb right now.
Jonas Knox
Yes. So gotta go. I'm with you. I'm with you. Like, it just. It feels like you're just running up the score a little bit. And I don't like to live in false realities.
Brady Quinn
Like, I just, you know, let's be real. This tree is on the curb because it was on its last leg. All right? I needed. I need to find next year, like, a Jose Canseco tree, you know, one that's just, like, juiced to the gills, and I know it's going to make it through the 25th. I mean, I was watering that thing twice a day, like, checking on it constantly, making sure I wasn't sure it was going to make it. But, you know, we. We love having real trees. And for whatever reason, this year, that was the one my kids picked out, they loved, and it barely held on, so we weren't going to wait another day before we took it out to the curbs.
Jonas Knox
Throw a little sugar in it.
Brady Quinn
Yeah, we tried that. We threw a little sugar. There was also some other mix. I actually stopped by, like, our, you know, local, you know, nursery, and we're like, hey, you know, what else can we do besides, like, sugar? We've heard that they're like, oh, there's these little packets you can buy. It helped a little bit. Not much.
Patrick Sua
What about a fake tree?
Brady Quinn
Brady, don't even.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, that's.
Brady Quinn
Don't even.
Patrick Sua
Don't even.
Brady Quinn
You watch your mouth, Patty Swee. Yeah, you watch your mouth.
Jonas Knox
That'll be.
Brady Quinn
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
By the way, everybody, the main tree.
Brady Quinn
Will always be the main tree, and it's going to be real. It's going to be made of wood. It might even come with. Who knows, you know, maybe some extra, you know, friends involved.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, I need.
Brady Quinn
Don't you even question that.
Jonas Knox
I need. I need to know that. That we're tiptoeing towards a potential fire hazard with my tree. Not some plastic fake tree that you can just take apart and put together and just. It's. It's got to be the real deal. Plus, it's fun to go pick out a different one. Just like it's fun to pick out a different coach, apparently in the world of college football. Cause guess what, And I don't know if you'd heard this, but Michigan is looking for a headcut. Apparently there was some issue with the guy that was there before, like some stuff that was going on. I. I have no idea. You know, big fan of, you know, door dash, apparently, but Utah. Former Utah coach Kyle Whittingham, according to Dan Wetzel and Pete Thamel, has emerged as the focus of Michigan's coaching search. Sources tell the guys Whittingham's candidacy is expected to be shared with top Michigan officials on Friday. Sources and a deal could come together in the near future if they approve. And Kyle Whittingham was with Utah for what, 21 years. Did a really fine job there. I know that you've have been there cover that team several times throughout the course of big noon kickoff. And so if you're Michigan and you look at this like when Kyle Whittingham stepped down, he kind of joked and said, you know, I'm entering the portal, meaning I'm not retiring. I'm just. It's time to step away and go somewhere else. And to be able to land this gig if it comes together, it feels like, you know, this is a pretty decent hire, all things considered at this.
Brady Quinn
Stage of the game for Michigan, without a doubt. I mean, and this is kind of. It didn't venture necessarily onto the Penn State territory where drug on that long. And. And then you ended up with a candidate that I think can be a really good coach for you. This happened a little bit sooner. I think there were. There was an initial thought of some candidates, whether it was Kenny Dillingham, whose name was thrown out there, or some of the others that were rum. I don't know how far along they ever got in the process with any of those. Probably because of what they were dealing with in regards to Sharon Moore. I mean, in one instance, you're doing an investigation, you're trying to figure out, you know, how long this went on, you know, with your head coach and all the details that came along with it. And I know they did prior investigations, you know, during the season. I told you we got wind of that back when we were there for Michigan versus Wisconsin. You know, I'd been told that he was being investigated at that point in time. And. And you're never sure what to make of something like that because you don't have the facts or details, but the source was a good source. And you know, you kind of sit on it and just wonder, okay, where's this going to go? And at the end of the season I said, we said this and talked about this. If they, if they beat Ohio State and they're in the playoff, like, is this firing happening?
Jonas Knox
Probably not.
Brady Quinn
You know, based on, based on what's being alleged, you'd hope it still would have happened. But to your point, like, probably not. And that's the crazy thing about sports and college football in general. But I think they've landed with what is potentially the best possible candidate for their scenario. And that's one in which, if you look at the timing of the college football calendar, we have very quickly approaching the transfer portal. And once, and the new rule is now, once the new permanent head coach is hired, there's usually a 15 day period where that coach can evaluate the roster, meet with a number of the players and there's a five day period where that roster opens up and any kid on the roster can transfer. And the reason why the timing of all this is important is because you like for that five day window to open up within the transfer portal. Window. If that five day window opens up after it in January. Once that window closes, everyone's taking your players and you can't replenish what you're missing out on. So the timing of this hire is somewhat important. I think where Kyle Whittingham's at in his career being 66 years old, coach had been the, the model of consistency, if you will, at Utah. That's what Michigan's trying to bring. They're trying to move on from an era that, yeah, won a national championship but had a lot of baggage that came along with it. And they're trying to get back to that. And I don't know how long he's going to coach. I mean anyone who's been around Kyle Whittingham and has seen him, I mean that dude is a model of health like he is. He's a stud. He's a, I mean he still gets, after working out, you can tell he's in great shape, does not look his age, doesn't act his age, still very much into it. I mean, I think he would have stepped down and let Morgan Scally take over Utah last year had they had a better season than being five and seven. But it was announced, I don't know, maybe a few years ago now that Morgan Scally was the coach in waiting and it kind of felt like, all right, like, let's. Let's move on with this. As. As tough as that is to admit for a coach who's won, what, 177 games at Utah, there's still an element of, like, we. We need to, you know, move on, let Morgan take over, and if you want to coach somewhere, so be it. You've. You've been tremendous for us. But this, to me, would be a huge hire because I think it sets the foundation for what Michigan football should hope to be. A tough, defensive, physical team. That's what won them the national championship a couple years ago. So they're kind of getting back to that, but just with a different face. Who's going to be doing it now if indeed they are able to come to an agreement with Kyle Whittingham.
Jonas Knox
You obviously know the Michigan, Ohio State rivalry, and just in. In our time working together, I've just sort of realized that a move by either school needs to be looked at in a sense of where does it land with that rivalry? Because that's everything. How does he all of a sudden fit in and ingrain himself into that rivalry? Because he seems like he's also got a little bit of red ass to him. Oh, yeah, and this is just what we need. Like, this is just like a sprinkle of that little hot sauce on. On what already is the greatest rivalry in sports.
Brady Quinn
I think Cal Whittingham is closer to Jim Trestle than. And even though he coached under Urban Meyer. But I think there's some elements of. Of him and Urban being similar. But as far as the timing of all this, it reminds me more kind of. Of. Of Jim Trestle kind of taking over and the seriousness and the manner which. How he conducted himself and how he was. And so I kind of go back to that era where you're coming out of the John Coopera. Ohio State didn't have much success versus Michigan. That was like, the first thing that Jim Trestle wanted to get back at. Now, I know Michigan has had success, you know, in the years prior to this year, but it also feels like the program was kind of hanging on since Jim Harbaugh left. I mean, two years ago, that was nowhere close to a team that just won a national championship. And I understand the roster was decimated, but still it wasn't to the level that you thought they'd be at. And even this past season, I think in many of those games, and we were there for their game versus Northwestern, Wrigley, they had no business winning that game. And there's a number. There's a number of games that were like that this season for them where the record probably looked better than they actually were. And as odd as that is to admit and say, it's just, you kind of felt like, hey, maybe Shermore's not the guy. Regardless of all the stuff that happened off the field, there's no development under Bryce Underwood. There's no offensive creativity. I mean, Chip Lindsay moved on. I didn't even wait to see how this whole thing would figure itself out, which may have been a godsend, honestly, to Michigan. I mean, at no point this season did I feel like they ever had a great offensive plan. So not only does their quarterback, Bryce Underwood, who's a budding star in my opinion, get a new lease on life and opportunity, hopefully he gets an offense, an offensive system that's built around his skill set to help him, you know, improve and elevate. But I do think in regards to the rivalry like Kyle Whittingham's prepared for this. Anyone who's ever been out for the Utah BYU rover, and we went this past year, I'm not trying to put it on the scale of Ohio State, Michigan, as far as, you know, those two states and the national significance of what that game usually has meant, but to the state of Utah, it is as nasty as it gets. I mean, it is as big of a rivalry as you will find. You know, next to I'd say below when you want to start comparing like the Oklahoma, Oklahoma State or you know, whoever else you want to throw in the conversation. You know, Utah, byu, Notre Dame, sc. We'll talk about that later on today's show. But when you start throwing these other rivalries, even the Iron Bull, like Iron Bulls is an unbelievable rivalry too. The Egg bowl, et cetera. Like there's as much nastiness to the BYU Utah rivalry than any, any of the other ones that are out there. And anyone who's been in Utah is it probably nod in their head and agreeing right now because if they've been a part of you seen it, it is nuts. It is wild and there's like a deep I don't say hatred, but I guess that's lack of, for lack of a better term, I'll use hatred towards one another.
Jonas Knox
The signage in the background is interesting when you guys are on set as well too. You can tell tell who's a Utah fan, who's BYU with some.
Brady Quinn
Well and the tough thing for the for the BYU fans, it wasn't really much of a response. Yeah we were right there in the crowd, and some of these guys are saying some heinous things to these kids, and they're like. Like, we're going to rise above this. We're not going to respond to these Utah fans.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, you kind of like, you know.
Brady Quinn
What are you supposed to do?
Jonas Knox
Like, there's no, you know, that you can't. You can't really act out. Like, they can get to a place that you just can't really get to. And that's unfortunate, you know, for. For that robbery. But.
Brady Quinn
So I do think Cal Whittingham will be prepared for it. He'll understand the Mission. And I think if this hire happens, you know, he'll. He'll be able to build some up again who can take over and he can pass this down to. I think, in a few years, and Mission will. Will look back and be like that. He was like the savior to our program at that time. I really do predict that happening for Michigan because Kyle Whittingham's just that. That darn good of a coach.
Jonas Knox
I also think. And we obviously doing the show with lavar Arrington and you and I would, you know, we take, you know, potentially some liberties with, you know, the Penn State coaching search and try and, hey, you know, what about. Now they got somebody now what about, you know, with all the other rumors and reports that were out there of candidates that were. But if you look at Michigan, if this does go through and they land Kyle Whittingham, and then you look at Penn State and after all of that, I think it was, what, close to two months. I think it was 58 days before they named another head coach. For them to be able to land a Matt Campbell and for Michigan to land a Kyle Whittingham, that's not a bad place to fall into considering all the crap that's been going on surrounding both programs. Like. Like both. Like, you could do a lot worse than both those guys.
Brady Quinn
It's a home run. And I think when you look at from this standpoint, too, it's a huge get for the Big Ten. And I remember when you, like, go back through the years when, you know, Urban Meyer was there and some of the other code, when Jim Harbaugh first got to Michigan, I believe his opening game, by the way, ironically enough, was versus Utah. But the point is, like, you've got coaches who. I think Matt Campbell has won the most games of any head coach in Iowa State history. You know, Kyle Whittingham obviously did that at Utah, but you're taking two of the best coaches in college football, but both from the Big 12. And that conference is kind of being pillaged right now with, with that talent moving up to the Big Ten. So it's, it's tough on the Big 12 for that reason. You know, you wonder how I was stable, will handle that and we'll be able to, you know, survive like what the that next era looks like. I think with Morgan Scally, the foundation, the program's already built. It's about kind of maintaining that and then taking it up a notch there. Obviously we're a 10 win team this season, but I think they've got higher aspirations of getting in the playoff and being a part of winning a national championship and we'll see if he can do that. But for the Big Ten, it's a huge get. Again, both coaches who understand how to build programs understand how to have success and it might not happen right away, but I think they will get there.
Jonas Knox
So if that deal does get finalized again, the reports are out according to ESPN that Kyle Whittingham is the focus of Michigan's head coaching search. If that gets the deal gets done. If we get any finalizing of the deal before the end of the show, we'll update you on that throughout. We're also going to have a conversation with the great Petros Papadekas. He's going to be joining you in hour two of the program. We're going to do something later on this hour called in case you missed it. We've also got some picks for week six, week 17, rather in the NFL. All of that is yours here on this three hour extravaganza. It's Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys here on the Dan Patrick Show. And by the way, brought to you by Rapid Radios, the official walkie talkie of the Dan Patrick show is a push to talk n nationwide LTE coverage service with no subscriptions required. Business owners, stay connected with your employees anywhere. Visit rapid radios.com now for up to 60% off and free shipping. All right. It's coming up next here on the show. There are good ideas, there are good plans in the NFL and then there's this. We'll explain what that is right here on fsr. But let's talk about our friends at Panini America, the official trading card and NFT partner of the Dan Patrick Show. Panini brings the premier collecting experience with the most coveted cards across the NFL, wnba, College, NASCAR and more. With the NFL playoff picture getting wild, you can hunt for top rookies and breakout stars like Ted McMillan of the Carolina Panthers, potentially the offensive rookie of the Year, along with the game's biggest names and legends on the award winning Panini Direct App. Looking for a gift anytime? The Panini Direct app is the best place to grab gifts for collectors of any age delivered straight from Panini. Panini is also dominating nil collectibles, showcasing top college names like Julian sand and Arch Manning and headliners like last year's first overall WNBA pick Paige Beckers and MVP Asia Wilson. If you are into digital collectibles, check out Panini's NFT platform@nft.panini america.net where record breaking sales continue every month and new auctions close daily. Lock in live moments with Panini Instant cards made within minutes of iconic plays. Visit panini America.net or download the Panini Direct app. Panini America, the official trading card and NFT partner of the Dan Patrick Show Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live Paulie Fusco here with Tony Fusco yo, as everybody.
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Jonas Knox
Patrick described us when he came on our show. Quick, knowledgeable and funny. Opinionated, blah blah, blah blah blah. What are you doing? You're interrupting our promo. Yeah, he wasn't talking about you. You took those clips totally out of context.
Brady Quinn
Oh yeah?
Jonas Knox
Well, after this promo, I'm gonna take.
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Let me put this into context.
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Shut up.
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Yeah. Anyway, just listen to the Paulie and Tony Fusco show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah.
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And Doug, what a horrible call. Hey, ref.
Jonas Knox
Open your eyes, ref. You're really not going to call that?
Brady Quinn
Come on.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brady Quinn
I think John told me that yesterday.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, God was laughing his ass off yesterday watching those games because, man, that's some bad football teams we got on display on Christmas. And I know that they probably thought, hey, man, like Chiefs, Broncos with Patrick Mahomes and Bo Nicks and sort of reigniting that rivalry. That'll be a good idea. The Lions and the Vikings would be a good idea. I mean, Cowboys commanders with Jaden Daniels. That was garbage. That was rough, man. Like some, some really, really bad teams in the NFL. He's trash. I don't know if it's more so than ever, but that was, that was a rough Watch yesterday.
Brady Quinn
I'm not going to go that far, but that's the risk you run if you're Netflix and you're paying a bunch of money for these games, and you end up, you know, look, there. There are three divisional games. I think when we make the schedule before the season, you're thinking, like, these could all be very influential. Even if a team like Washington's out had. Dallas had still been in the hunt, or for. At least for the Vikings, Lions. I mean, obviously this pretty much knocked out the Lions from being in playoff contention. So there's those elements of it that I do think it made it somewhat enticing or at least interesting and maybe even worth the price of what Netflix is paying for these games and the production that goes along with it. I kind of just came to the conclusion, not even just watching the games, but, you know, thinking about what Christmas used to be like. And I understand that, you know, the NBA now has kind of made this their holiday. Now the NFL's kind of, you know, trump them, and I'm sure the ratings will. Will show as much, but can we just take a day off? Like, I. I know Mark Cuban said this years ago about the. The pigs can get too fat and the NFL, eventually there'll be a bubble that will burst. I just. I. I don't know, man. Like, can't we just have. Can we just have Christmas and not have to force these games to be played on Christmas Day? I mean, I'm not saying that it factored into, like, how I felt about our Christmas or the day at all, but I'm sure there's some Washington Commanders fans or Detroit Lions fans or, you know, whoever you want to point to that's probably sitting there thinking themselves, like, yeah, what if. What if we could have taken that. L. Maybe on the 26th or 27th or 28th, you know, it would have been nice to not have to throw that into my. My Christmas, you know, as well.
Jonas Knox
Well, I'm gonna.
Brady Quinn
Ross, but I just feel bad for a little Timmy out there.
Jonas Knox
Well, I'm gonna. Ross went on a rant on his podcast talking about, why do we have to plan Thanksgiving and Christmas? He's like, I don't even. I don't even have kids, and I'm pissed off about it. He goes, I can't even imagine my kids. Like, it's just. Yeah, it's. I. I mean, I'm kind of with you, man. Like, I know that. You know, I mean, and maybe people are just. Maybe people like it because it. They can Avoid their family. But it just, it does feel like I, I'm just saying, like, there's, there's also that element to it. Look, I mean, you know, it's like faking a phone call. Somebody comes up to you, and you just grab whatever on the table and say, yeah, I'm still here. It's just, I, I get it. You just, you want to avoid the conversations, you want to avoid the social life. I, with your family. I get all that, but that was just, I mean, and do we need three? Like, do we have to have three games, like, one in the morning? It's just like, it feels like it's just, it's getting more and more and more. And once the NFL realized during COVID oh, wait a second, we could just throw this on anywhere and people watch, then it was off and running from there.
Brady Quinn
Well, I, I, I don't want to look at it the same way, because Covet. I think they learned that even during the week, you could put on a primetime game almost any day of the week, and people would watch. But this is different. It's a holiday. I mean, I just, it hits a little bit different. But I do want to point out one thing you just said. You just tried to call the Cowboys Commanders game in the morning. No one cares about Pacific time. Okay, let's just get that straight. Don't. Don't even start. You, I just heard you say it. You go, yeah, so, you know, you'll. Dallas wash in the morning. Yeah, don't start that.
Jonas Knox
Hey, that little sliver, you know when you're looking at the map on the, on the left side, that little sliver there, that's Pacific time we count out here. All right? And, and you know, our friends in Hawaii are a couple hours behind, so it's really early for them, so they had to wake up even earlier to that garbage. That was the.
Brady Quinn
On that note, because I know you're gonna gloat about Hawaii winning their bowl game.
Jonas Knox
That's right, brother.
Brady Quinn
No. Okay, brother. I feel like Cal let their foot off the gas. It felt like after the first half, they're like, all right, we proved our point. We're gonna go ahead and just, like, let this thing, you know, figure itself out.
Jonas Knox
I mean, I don't know if we really want to peel the behind the curtain here and just feel everything. All right, so let's go ahead and peel this back. Minding my own business. Christmas Eve. Getting ready for the holiday. One of Brady's best friends, who we will not give his real name on the air. But his moniker is the meat wagon. Just randomly sends a text, merry Christmas, Hawaii stinks. Okay? And then clearly, I mean, clearly, obviously had money on the game. I like, I, I w. I would venture to guess he probably had money on the game. So I don't even know if he turned out to be happy at the result or if he was bragging because he had Cal on that game. But unfortunately, if he had Cal, they came out on the short end because Timmy Chang and those nine win Hawaii Rainbow warriors got it done at the Hawaii bowl, you know, so I feel like that's, that's, that's a good start to bowl season.
Brady Quinn
What was that neutral site game? That Hawaii Bowl?
Jonas Knox
Yeah. I mean.
Brady Quinn
Oh, it's just another home game.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, just that, that's, that's just the way it works. Like when the Rams were playing in the Super bowl at SoFi, you know, it's just a home game. The Bucks and at Raymond James, you know, during the COVID super bowl against the Chiefs. But I mean, look, I'll give. I'll say this about Amazon Prime. They, they were really, really pushing the Travis Kelsey final game at Arrowhead is last night. They were. I mean, they were finding anything they could to make this entertaining. And, and we're really trying to send him off, letting everybody know, like, hey, he hasn't made it official yet, but it's like, dude, he's gone. Like, like everything, the way it was presented, the way he was talking sort of his, you know, all like the way he was saying bye. That's a wrap. Travis Kelsey's gone. He's played his final game at Arrowhead Stadium. He's going to go off and make a gazillion dollars and gazillion more dollars and he's going to go into the hall of Fame in five years. Like, that's a wrap. I don't think there's any shot he comes back.
Brady Quinn
I don't think so either. I mean, he's the first ballot hall of Famer. I do wonder if he didn't have the podcast with his brother. What are you hanging up? I mean, I think it's hard for a lot of players to call it quits. Maybe this season, and I would think this season more than any, would be hard to call it quits because you didn't get close to achieving what you've been so accustomed to. I mean, he's won three Super Bowls. You know, he's been such a, you know, incredible piece of this team and the run that the Chiefs have been on, I mean, some would say next to Mahomes, like the other foundational piece, if you're just talking about players. And I just. I always wonder for a guy like him who's an ultimate competitor, he's fought through playing through injuries, different, different types of things, if he didn't have something there waiting for him that's not only lucrative, but I think it's fun and something to do with his brother, would it. Would he have called it quits this season or would he try to run it back again and would he exhaust all efforts? I mean, only he truly knows, I guess, that answer. But not as many players can transition the way he has, you know, into something that's going to easily be able to make them, you know, money and allow him to still be very much in the limelight and as. Maybe even as successful he's been as a football player.
Jonas Knox
Kirk Herbstreet was making the point on the broadcast saying, you know, I kind of lean towards him coming back because, you know, I can't imagine he wants to go out that way with Patrick Mahomes on the sideline, especially if Patrick's going to work his way to come back and it's like, all right, but that's what he did this past year. Like, they didn't want to go out that way and how it happened in the super bowl, so what is he going to do? Just, like, keep going until the year ends perfectly and then that this is it. And. And he's had. Had a tremendous career and, yeah, he's got all these other opportunities off the field. I mean, you've even said it yourself that you, you don't even know if you would have gotten into football if you would have met me sooner so we could do this radio show together. Like, didn't you say that once? I'm most positive.
Brady Quinn
I've never said that. Not. Not once in my life. In fact, that was never a part of the conversation. So.
Jonas Knox
Damn it.
Brady Quinn
I mean, I. I will say this, I will admit this. You know, I had back surgery in my seventh year that had some complications from, you know, the injury and everything else. And as I was rehabbing, I kind of came to the conclusion that I'm probably never going to feel and be, you know, what I once was at one point in my life. And it got to the point where I had this opportunity presented by Fox, to go call games and to do studio work. And eventually this knucklehead named Jonas Knox came along, too, and I really had to reevaluate after that first season where I was, I was out and I was calling NFL games and I was, I was looking at what I was being presented as a career. And I thought this was never by design. You know, I, I think that's transparently the toughest thing for most athletes. I think for all of us out there. By the way, it's like most people prepare for best and worst. Like, who prepares for like the middle scenario? In all seriousness? Like, you're like, oh, best case scenario, worst case scenario. Like, that's how I looked at it. Like I went to Notre Dame thinking I'm going to do, I'm going to study poli sci and finance. And if I don't, if it doesn't work out for football, I will eventually get into, you know, something in the, you know, private sector. Maybe I'll go back to, you know, law school or get my jd, MBA and be, be something else in the business world. And if it does work out, like, I'm going to play for a bajillion years, be a Hall of Famer, and I have to worry about like no one plans for the in between.
Jonas Knox
And here you are a day after Christmas, slapping it up with me.
Brady Quinn
Yeah, exactly.
Jonas Knox
All balls are equal.
Brady Quinn
Yeah. Now it feels like it's a incredible disappointment, let me tell you.
Jonas Knox
It is all that is.
Brady Quinn
No doubt.
Jonas Knox
All that time you spent studying, all the hours, the sacrifice training, working football.
Brady Quinn
Now I end up here, only same spot with Jonas Knox only to end.
Jonas Knox
Up doing crank jokes 10 years in a row. Yeah, that's, that's all we got. Go hard on a guy.
Brady Quinn
The guy who was working for Chuck E. Chopped. Cheated as the rat.
Jonas Knox
That's right.
Brady Quinn
That's out of the same exact spot.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, the balls at least a dozen times by six year olds. It's just, yeah, it's an unfortunate, it's really unfortunate that things end up this way.
Brady Quinn
The point is though, is that I probably could have kept trying to exhaust that opportunity. And, and I look at like today's NFL with a quantum Philip Rivers to come up. All these other guys were like, well, I mean, at this point like, like you could go in and be serviceable. I mean, especially the way the league's changed over the course of the last 10 years. I mean, the way you're not even allowed to hit the guys anymore and the inability for, you know, quarterbacks even read who are read defenses who are coming in the NFL. It's like, well, you know, if it was 10 years later, I probably would have ended up here. Probably would have kept trying to exhaust those efforts of playing. But the truth is there was something there for me, and it made that transition a little bit easier. So much so that when I kind of dove head in first, I really never sat back and thought about how much I missed playing. Until you would have those opportunities where you're like, down on the field talking to players, talking to coaches and guys that are still doing it, and even today, reaching out, talking to guys who are still doing it. Like I. At the Big Ten championship game. You know, Saul, I granted this is on the college level, but still, you know, saw one of my buddies I played college with and just the excitement he had after winning the Big Ten championship, knocking off Ohio State, you're like, man, like, you know, even if I got into coaching, like, that would have been that kind of window of time to make that decision and look how much fun they're having. So I think that's what's there, though, for Travis Kelsey, and that's what makes this year feel a lot different. I know he kind of had it last year, too, as they're building up, but with the way everything's gone this year for Kansas City and really for him too, and physically being another year older, it just feels like it's time.
Jonas Knox
Yeah. And, and I, I, I do wonder, more so about Andy Reid, like, what, what sort of his thought process is, because he's also, I mean, him and Travis Kelsey kind of hinted around at potentially walking away. I, I don't think Andy Reid ultimately does, but I mean, that, that you look around and feels like he's on, you know, borrowed time.
Brady Quinn
It's kind of interesting, though, you're saying this about Andy Reid, who's what, 67 years old? I think I'll turn 68 in March of 2026. I mean, Kyle Whittingham, 66. Yeah, he's, he's stepping down, taking potentially another job at the college level.
Jonas Knox
Maybe it's that jacked effect. He's just jacked. So I just assume he's got like another 20 years to go. Like, yeah, maybe, maybe that's what it is.
Brady Quinn
He's just, I, I think if you're Andy Reid, man, you, you run this thing with Patrick Mahomes till the wheels fall off. And then the other thing about Kelsey that makes the decision maybe a little bit easier all the way around is he's unrestricted free agent. You know, they would, they would have to, you know, figure out some way of fit him in under the cab, what that number looks like, you know, are they going to offer him the type of like money that he wants to come back for at this point in time in his career? I mean, if you are Kansas City, you do have to start thinking about life after him, which they've already thought about, but they had to start preparing for how they're going to rebuild this roster and the financial components. A piece of it for both sides, Travis Kelsey, and for the team.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, well, listen, whatever he decides, been a hell of a run. And this run for us continues here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan Patrick and the guys here on fsr. And up next, there's a coach in the world of sports not happy about things and I don't know if he's trying to find a way out, but not thrilled and aired his own team out yesterday regarding it. We'll get into that for you right here on fsr. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Brady Quinn
What up now? What up, Brady? What up, Jonah? What up?
Jonas Knox
What's up, guys? What is that?
Brady Quinn
That's.
Patrick Sua
It's supposed to be an air horn.
Jonas Knox
Those are your horns?
Patrick Sua
Yeah, that's my version of an air horn. It's not great, but you know what?
Brady Quinn
Thank you. There it is.
Jonas Knox
Let's go.
Patrick Sua
Well, in case you missed it, I missed you guys. It was a lovely Christmas. But you know what? We're back in business. Everybody, we're here.
Jonas Knox
Hey, by the way, can I just say this?
Patrick Sua
Yes.
Jonas Knox
Patrick's mom, how, like, how long does she, like, take to. Like, she just bakes all day. Like, for during the holidays in particular.
Patrick Sua
It was three days Friday. She ended Sunday afternoon.
Jonas Knox
Unbelievable. Like, they're all bakery.
Brady Quinn
No, she's home.
Jonas Knox
Homebrewed. Man, you gotta start selling, like. Like, start selling tins of goodies. I'm telling, like, she put together stuff.
Brady Quinn
Stuff.
Jonas Knox
And. And my wife, like, was like, who made these? And I was about to lie and say I did, but she would have seen right through because I can't. And I just said, yeah. Patrick, our producer, he, like, his mom bakes. And she said, this is unbelievable. I was like, yeah, everything's good. Creative. Like, you're missing an opportunity there to make a little cash. Point that out.
Patrick Sua
Shout out to my moms. I know you listening right now.
Jonas Knox
Just.
Brady Quinn
Mama.
Patrick Sua
You good?
Brady Quinn
You good? Good, Mama.
Jonas Knox
What up, mama? Sweetie. What up, mama?
Patrick Sua
Well, in case you missed it, guys, speaking of getting a little fiery here, JJ Redick, coach of the Lakers, after their recent loss yesterday, was, oh, so not very happy at his team. In fact, I actually have a sound to play coming up here. Here's what Coach Redick had to say.
Brady Quinn
Been a good basketball team, and we haven't. We're a terrible basketball team. And tonight we were about talking terrible basketball team. And that started legitimately right away. We don't care enough to, like, do the things that are necessary. We don't care enough to be a professional. It's. You know, we had. Can change like that. We don't have it right now. What I said the other night, it's. It's a matter of making the choice. And too often we have guys that don't want to make that choice, and it's pretty consistent who those guys are. And so Saturday practice, I told the guys, it's going to be uncomfortable. The meeting is going to be uncomfortable. I'm not doing another 53 games like this.
Patrick Sua
Scathing from Coach Reddick here.
Jonas Knox
Good for him. Also, why'd you take the gig, dude like you. He could. Like, he was great in the media. Like, he was a great as a broadcaster. He had his podcast. He had all those other opportunities, and he chose to be miserable as the coach of the Lakers.
Brady Quinn
It's one of those jobs, though, because if you get offered it, can you turn it down.
Jonas Knox
If you got options?
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Jonas Knox
Like, I. I don't know. I just think he. If he was awful, like, if it just wasn't working, and, you know, as a broadcaster, he was flaming out, and then there was an opportunity to go, you know, be a head coach somewhere. Oh, yeah, that would make sense. But he was great at that. And he just seems like he's miserable a lot of the times as a coach, I mean. But at least Luca got skinny this year, so there is that.
Brady Quinn
I guess I'll ask this. Did he confuse the relationship that he had with LeBron and maybe even, like, when he was stepping into this role, who would ultimately be in control of the roster and the decisions? Because, I don't know, it feels like ever since that he stepped into this role, the relationship with. With LeBron has been somewhat fractured, at least not what it used to be. And then it feels like he's just a figurehead more than anything else.
Jonas Knox
Yeah. And I think he wants, you know, he's looking for better defensive effort, and it's like, like, but that's not Luca's game. Like, it never has been. Like, that's not LeBron's game anymore. Like, if you watch Lebron, like, he. He's out there just kind of. Kind of. And look, he's been in the league 105 years. Like, I get it, but it's like he's looking for better defensive efforts. That's not their game. And so I. I don't know how. Why anybody should be surprised by this, but, you know, it's The Lakers and I feel like we hit our quota in covering the Lakers here, you know, to finish up the calendar year. So that's, that's always important. What else we got, Patty?
Patrick Sua
All right, so a Christmas gift for the Steelers on the eve of Christmas. What was that, you guys ask? Well, TJ Watt is back and he was practicing.
Jonas Knox
Hey, after the injury, let's go look at that.
Brady Quinn
Can we get some details on the lung injury? How does that happen?
Jonas Knox
You know, nothing like, hey, just very carefully, your run of the mill holiday shiv by a member of the training staff right before you get ready for Christmas, you know, just a lump of coal. Nothing, I'm telling you, man, nothing about that entire story has made sense from the get go. Even the explanation afterwards. Like you were trying to explain dry needling and how nearly impossible that is. And you've got like, some doctors that are saying, oh, no, no, it's possible, could happen. And Dr. David Chow's on social media being like, you'd have to work really hard to collapse somebody's lung using those, those little needles. Like, they're just really fine, like even like, like thinner than sewing needles. And somehow his lung got collapsed. Mike Tomlin doesn't have any answers, doesn't know what it. Like, it feels like we have not heard the end of this and there's going to be some sort of a conversation. I don't know if there's a legal impact to it all, but it. None of it has made sense.
Brady Quinn
This whole thing, there'll definitely be a workman's comp claim at the minimum. But I mean, I've had dry needling done before and I've had, like, issues with ribs, cartilage in the rib and all that. And I've had injections, right? Like, usually they just numb it up before games, give you a shot of Novocaine. So locally you couldn't feel anything. And it's odd to me that, again, I understand mistakes happen, but through dry needling, I just. It doesn't. I. I don't even know. I mean, again, I'm not any expert in this. I've never heard of a player getting dry needling in that area.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, like, what is the. The, like what, what's the. Is it just to relieve pressure? Like, like dry needling is to do what?
Brady Quinn
Oh, God, I don't know if we have enough time to go through that. But, I mean, there's some people who talk about, like, the meridian system, like your body's like, electrical kind of charge and energy. There's people who talk from it, from like an acupuncture standpoint. Like, that way there's other people who feel like it helps, you know, bring like rec recovery cells and from like a cellular standpoint locally to that area. I don't think that's a, that's a wormhole you want to jump down.
Jonas Knox
But, but collapsing of the lung is not part of the, is not part of the conversation when it comes to dry needling. Like, they just, it just feels, it feels odd. What else we got, Patty?
Patrick Sua
Oh, with that said, we're still going to stay with the NFL. So Dak Prescott and the Cowboys played yesterday on Christmas. Dak Prescott says he's still gonna play for the final game and he actually said why he's gonna play with no playoffs. Pride. He says he's never been, he's never been, you know, missing playoffs or, you know, under 500 and all, all that stuff. He's just, this is a first for him. He's just gonna play for pride.
Jonas Knox
I love how like this is being celebrated.
Brady Quinn
We act like he's not being paid like 50 million or whatever it is. You're like, there's also that, like, you can't just like sit out where you're being paid 50 million a year.
Jonas Knox
Hey, what a guy. Yeah, I gotta understand, like, but what is he supposed to not play? Like, no, listen, you know what, let them have it. You know, we're out of it. Like, there's nothing. Like, what does he, what does he got? Are they trying to keep him healthy for a game next week? Like, no, of course he's gonna play. I, I don't understand why this is even a topic of conversation. But, but I think the NBA's kind of soiled it for everybody. To where now when players do participate in games, they're like, man, what a teammate, what a player.
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Hosts: Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn (in for Dan Patrick)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
This episode dives into two major stories shaking the sports world: the fast-moving rumors connecting longtime Utah football coach Kyle Whittingham to the Michigan head coaching job and the signals pointing to a potential crossroads (retirement?) for Kansas City Chiefs star Travis Kelce. Jonas and Brady trade personal holiday stories, debate NFL scheduling excess on holidays, and break down college coaching carousel moves—delivering their trademark mix of inside scoops and rowdy sports banter.
News Context: Reports (Dan Wetzel/Pete Thamel/ESPN) link Kyle Whittingham, recently departed Utah legend, as the top target for Michigan’s vacancy, with a decision potentially imminent.
The episode’s banter is energetic and irreverent, full of inside jokes and back-and-forth jabs. The style combines sharp sports analysis with self-deprecating humor and anecdotes about family and work-life transitions (“Here you are a day after Christmas, slapping it up with me.”).
Example:
Brady: “Now I end up here, same spot with Jonas Knox, only to end up doing crank jokes for ten years in a row.” (38:05)
Hour 1 of The Dan Patrick Show expertly blends holiday fun, breaking college football news, and NFL analysis. Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn dissect the high-stakes Michigan coaching rumors surrounding Kyle Whittingham, explore Travis Kelce’s potential swan song with the Chiefs, and challenge the NFL's ever-expanding presence on holidays, all with a wink and a punchline. Through it all, the duo never loses their playful, informed voice, keeping listeners engaged whether they're sports diehards or casual fans catching up after Christmas.