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I know it's a little bit of cheating because these two teams played on Thanksgiving. So it's been a full week. Normally you have a condensed week for Thursday Night Football. You don't get the best football because of injuries and things like that. So we're going to have Lomas Brown, former Detroit lion, you know, guy blocked for Barry Sanders, he's the analyst for the Detroit Lions. He'll be on here in the first hour to talk about this huge matchup in the NFL. Then an hour two, Derwin James, all pro safety for the Chargers are going to, is going to be here on the show. And then Andy Staples, an hour three to talk about college football. So we have all of that conversation. We'll love to take your calls. Want to hear about all the football stories we can get out of the, I mean we, we get the whole pepper spray thing. I mean the. What did it benefit Ohio State to lose? There's an argument to be had that it benefited Ohio State to lose. I mean, you heard the guy running off the field, your season's over, Michigan. We're just, we'll play. Ours isn't. We're still going to win a national championship possibly. So this is a conversation we're going to have throughout the show. But first and foremost, Thursday Night Football just found out the highest rated winning percentage Thursday night game this late November on Thursday Night Football in NFL history. Also the two teams are the most winningest going into the game. Yes. Okay, so this division of course is shown out like everybody else said, they're the best division in football. They have three teams that are on the verge of being double digit win already at this point in the season. The packers, the Lions, the Vikings, they all play each other over the next few weeks to round it out. So this Lions game is incredibly important. Right? Imagine you are the number one overall seed. You don't have to go out the confines of Ford Field into the elements to Philly, to maybe a rowdy, rainy Seattle or something like that. Everybody has to come through Detroit. I was there Thanksgiving Day calling that Bears Lions game. Whoa, what an environment. I mean this, this was the first time on Thanksgiving, even though they haven't fared well on Thanksgiving, that the people were there to see this team win. It was a favorite, you know, and they haven't been that. And guess what, folks, they are the NFC favorite to go to the Super Bowl. First time ever in the history of the Detroit Lions. They are the favorite to go to the Super Bowl. And I'm telling you right now, I wouldn't have had that going into this season. Now, I was very critical of Dan Campbell and the decision making he made in the NFC Championship. This team is going to the super bowl for the first time ever. If he just simply attempts the field goal in that moment instead of going forward on fourth down, I've got pushback from Lions fans, from others out there. That's what they've been doing all year long. This is what they've always done with Dan Campbell. And I'm like, I don't care. This isn't week six against the Detroit Lions or against the Chicago Bears. This is the NFC championship. The first time you've been to it in 30 years. You may only have the chance to go to the super bowl once. So I really had a lot of apprehension around this team actually being able to come back this year and do what they've done. They've been the best team in football. They have arguably the best quarterback in football, you could say in terms of his accuracy, him overcoming adversity, all the things that go into it. They've been decimated on the defensive side because of injuries, especially to Aiden Hutchinson and then others throughout the. Yet they still keep finding ways to win and win and win. Now, don't forget for the Green Bay packers on the side of this, a year ago, this was the game that propelled them. This was the catalyst. Thanksgiving Day in Detroit. Green Bay shows up. Jordan Love says, not so fast, my friends, and boots them out of Ford Field and takes them through the playoffs. There's another argument we had at Green Bay. If they didn't have some of the rookie moments by Jordan Love or first time playoff moments down the stretch in that game, they would have been going to Detroit, where they had just won a month earlier for the NFC Championship. So this, these two teams are playing incredibly well. Jordan Love hasn't made any mistakes over the last two weeks. Josh Jacobs is exactly the back. As much as they loved Aaron Jones, Josh Jacobs is the back that Mike LaFleur, you know, wanted. You know, this was, this was the guy in snow, in bad weather that could be so physical, run downhill, be a, be a player that can take some of the pressure off Jordan Love in big moments. And that was last week. I don't know about you. But like Josh Jacobs was the MVP of that game last week for as good as Jordan Love then had to be. That's. That's what he wants. Matt. Sorry. Matt Laflore has just been all over this process, trying to build it ever since, you know, Aaron Rodgers left and allowed him kind of the freedom to be the head coach of the Green Bay Packers. You know, I don't think he got to be that for the first three years, even though they were great 13 and three. You know, in those instances, you are always still running the Aaron Rodgers offense and what he's been able to do the less so this game is incredibly important, makes for a great opportunity. Lomas Brown's going to talk about us and take us through it all here in a little bit. But this should open up the idea box for the fellows out there for the. The poll questions. I know you guys all have some good ones. Seaton, you have some ones ruminating so far about this football. Yeah, we got a few poll questions here. This one's from Paulie. Who would you rather see win the super bowl, the Bills or the Lions? Okay, so this is a philosophical question. If your team is no longer in the fight, let's say a couple of weeks from now, your team is out of it, let's say deep in the playoffs, your team is out of it and the Bills and the Lions are in the Super Bowl. That Bills over four. Four years. We know their history. Lions never. Lions never. It almost reminds me a little bit of the 2016 World Series. The Cleveland Indians at the time and the Chicago Cubs. Two great stories. One of them has to win. Where would you guys stand on who you'd root for? The Steelers? They're not in it. Oh, Bills. I mean, I don't know. No, wrong answer. But you have to pick one. You have to pick one, huh? Since Detroit has never gone, the heartbreak of what Buffalo has gone through the four consecutive. I would go Buffalo in this instance. Oh, for 4 is worse than none for 100. None forever. I've had that. Because listen, classic none for. So listen to this. So Wade Wilson was my. Wade Wilson was my quarterback coach in Dallas and in my time in Tampa, you know, I had a chance to be on the injured reserve, possibly for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers super bowl run. And I remember talking to Wade about it because I got traded to Dallas instead. I asked him the question, is it worse to be a backup on a Super bowl winning team or never to have gone to a Super Bowl? What do you think his answer was never having gone. Right. No. His answer was to be the backup on a Super bowl because you couldn't participate. Yeah. Ooh. It just as a. As a alpha male and as a starting NFL quarterback, you're like, now, I'm sure we would have a bunch of different answers, but I feel like I almost agreed with him on that. I went because it really kind of caused me to leave the league. I probably could have played in the league for 10 more years and been a backup and made a lot of money doing it. Paulie. But I think when you look at the Lions, they feel like the Cubs. They feel like the NFL's version of the Cubs there. It's like they've never been there. And last year, I know you didn't love them coming in the season, it felt like at halftime, what were they up 247 at halftime versus the Niners? Yeah. If I was a Lions fan, I would have been on Expedia getting flights to the Super Bowl. Yeah. And then it's like that second half, they puckered up in the face of the Super Bowl. Well, yeah, they just started making different decisions. And because Dan Campbell had already made the decision, like the end of the first half, he kicked the field goal. You know, if you were still going on for it on fourth down, you would have went for a touchdown there. I mean, you've already made the decision. It was a closer field goal, don't get me wrong. But you've already made the decision. You don't have to make it again because you've already made it. The biggest thing about this, and I don't understand why they didn't understand it, because everything's about analytics. They kicked the field goal there. San Francisco doesn't have enough possessions. That's the difference. When you don't get the first down, you have now given up a possession, allowed San Francisco now not to have to need as many possessions. You go back to the Chargers Jags game a couple of playoffs years ago. The Jags have to score on every single possession they have in that second half to get back in it and beat the Chargers, like, every single one of them. They couldn't have one mistake. And so as a. As a team like the Detroit Lions and that, your job at that point is to make the game out of reach. It's like that Houston Texans Chiefs playoff game. Weren't the Texans up 210 and a half? And all the guys are going crazy in the Texans and that they tried that fake field goal that Sorensen snuffed out from the Chiefs. And that was it. It just went the other way. You know, I. And I get it. I understand what pressure and scrutiny and just in those moments can feel like because it's happened to all of us who have played any sort of professional sport. You never know what pressure is going to do to you in those kind of moments. I mean, you look at Sean McDermott in the 13 second game in Kansas City at Arrowhead, like, there's so many things you would have done differently in those 13 seconds that you understand and you would have. Fritzi, Was it pressure, stupidity, or both? The way the Falcons blew that Patriots super bowl, what happened to them other than deciding not to eat more of the clock and passing when they should be running? I mean, I. We were all there. I just found out Anna was pregnant. Lady Gaga had the halftime show, and we were at halftime and my little brother had, at the beginning of the year, 50 to 1 odds on the Falcons to win the Super Bowl. Oh, no. Yes. He's counting his cash. He's counting his cash. In fact, I talked to him at halftime. I said, you're not going to hedge it. And because he was thinking about hedging it so he could make some money, and he was like, I mean, we all looked at each other and said, you don't have to hedge it. You're good, bro. Oh. And just like anything, it's just a stone starts to trickle down the hill, right? And it starts gathering momentum and moss and rolling. And then you look at decisions, every little decision is magnified tenfold. So what Kyle Shanahan and Dan Quinn could have done in those and literally could have taken knees on that one drive and kicked the field, attempted a field goal, and they would have won the game. Because, same difference. There wouldn't have been enough possessions. Paulie, if we're going back, and this is a fun topic, we fall into games that frustrate you still. Like, yeah, I'm not even a 49ers fan. Marvin. Sorry. In the 49ers Chief Super bowl, and they were trying to run out the clock with Jimmy Garoppolo and Raheem Mostert, and I think in the fourth quarter, on a first down and 10, Mostert runs for 5 yards. And then they threw two more passes, Chris Jones knocked one down, and then they had to get rid of the ball. And I was like, just give it to Mostert. Just give it to Mostert. And if he gets five more yards or three more yards and the clock runs, this is a. Kyle. This is a Kyle Shanahan trend here. And that's the difference between Jimmy Garoppolo having his own super bowl ring and Mahomes having one less. Yeah. Those couple play calls. Yeah. And being beaten by Jimmy Garoppolo and Tom Brady, two former Patriots. Right. Kyle Shanahan, for as good as he is, seemingly gets in his own way sometimes in terms of his play calling, when the easiest, most sensible solution is the right one, and sometimes to the deficit of whatever team he's coaching has been incredibly costly. Incredibly costly. And that's just the way it's been for this, for this 49ers team and frankly, any team. Kyle Shannon has been the offensive corner. More polls here for Seaton. Yeah, let's see. We could go with two. Perception wise, this one's a version of a poll question Todd had. Perception wise, how important is tonight's game for the Lions? Extremely important or not really at all. We know who they are. Well, the second half of the Chicago game was incredibly poor. You allowed a team that was dead and gone in the first half to come back. And realistically, if they don't absolutely self implode on the final 33 seconds of the game, you know, that could have turned out much differently. You were in the booth. What was going on in the booth. You were calling the game with Jason, right? Yeah. Jason Benetti, who just by all means, everybody is a play by play God. Okay. It's. Sometimes I get lost in just listening to him and I forget I have to say something after he has told everybody. What? Yeah, yeah. And so he's dead. And he finally just looks at me and he's like, how Ryan? How does that happen? And my answer was like, they're the Bears. That was my answer on live national radio following the play by play God was simply to say that was the rat or that was the Bears. What I saw, plain and simple, was a rookie quarterback that did not know where he was. He didn't know the situation, he didn't know the down and distance. He didn't know timeouts. He didn't know what was going on. But for all of those things that exist, your coach who's on the sideline when 22 seconds hits, because that's usually the line of demarcation for anything at the end of game when 22 seconds hits and you see your quarterback does not know where he's at. And I don't know why. I don't know if he got knocked in the head when he got pulled down on that sack on that final play or if he was just, you know, not seeing the bigger picture, as we all know, he went and changed the play even and ran out of time. If you're mad at your blue, you got to call time out at 22 seconds. Because listen, you call time out there, you at least just to look at your quarterback and say, hey Caleb, you know where you're at, right? You know what's going on, what's at stake. You get them back, get them focused. You could complete the next pass for a first down, whether it's a short one and you can get up there and spike it, or if it's a little bit longer, takes a little more time. Your field goal unit knows we don't have time out left. You have to be ready to run out there, kick the game time, field goal, send it to overtime. All of these things for all my misfortune and all my mistakes and everything like that. We were talking about this before the game. From high school until my final snap as an NFL quarterback, one of the best things I did was time management. Like there was never an example that you can look throughout my career from college, high school to pros where I just did not know the situation. And I think it's what makes me such a good play caller when I'm calling games is I just understand the bigger picture. A lot of us who didn't excel at the game doesn't mean we can't see it better. Like we see it expert wise, we just couldn't execute it. That's why I think for me, we've seen somebody like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and the guys at Patrick Mahomes, what they do is so darn impressive because I'm like, I couldn't do that. I can, I can see how to do that and I can tell you how to do that. But then doing that as well is what makes it makes it crazy. We're going to get into all that and much more and big reason why, you know, I'm wearing the Russell Wilson jersey, you know. Thanks Russ. Dangerous sent me a home and away jersey to start this year because I don't know if anybody remembers, but I was the only guy out there that said that this Pittsburgh Steelers team was going to be special with Russ at the helm. But when we come back, we're going to listen to Lomas Brown, Detroit Lions broadcaster to break everything down right here. Seven time Pro Bowler Lomas Brown is going to join us and talk all about the Lions packers game right here on the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 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I mean, just better did life decisions now by the whole crew. Okay, so. All right, speaking of better life decisions, Seaton, what do we have on the poll question for the first Hour. Yeah. Right now, results are pending, but we're going to go with those first two. Who would you rather see win the Super Bowl, Bills or Lions? And then also how, how important is tonight's game for the Lions, perception wise? Extremely. Or not really at all. Okay. All right, well, we can probably get some answers here from our next guest, Lomas Brown, seven time Pro Bowler legend for the Lions. He joins us now to talk about the Lions packers matchup. Lomas, how we doing today, buddy? I'm doing great, Ryan. Ryan, you look good. My good man. Thank you. Swim. I'm like, wow, you look good, Ryan. Yeah, that'll happen when you decide to have kids. Kids in your. In your 50s. Well, Loma, so do you. I mean, I mean, what was your playing weight, man? You were probably low. Three hundreds. Yeah, my first six years I was 315. My last 12 years in the league, I was between 275 and 280. So. Yeah, you're right about that. Yeah. I mean, it goes to show when we see a lot of those former NFL offensive linemen, I mean, to keep that weight on, to stay that strong and physical and be that, you know, presence in the, in the trenches is huge. Yeah, it really is. And you see a lot of these guys, man, you see Joe Thomas and all these guys now and they've dropped all that weight. But like you say, Ryan, it's just necessary to carry that weight while you in the league. Once you get out the league, man, let it go. Let it go. If you're a big fella, I couldn't get over on. I was there Thursday in Detroit calling the game for Westwood One. And I don't know if it was just me, but the offensive line for the Detroit Lions seemingly feels like they're giants. I mean, they're just tall, athletic. They don't have like the dad bought offensive lineman either. It's just, it's rough and rugged. Speaking of that Thursday game, hadn't won a Thanksgiving game since 2016. Was dominating first half, kicked field goals rather than got touchdowns against the Bears team that is very good in the red zone defensively, but then fell apart in the seventh. What did you see from that game, Lomas, in terms of a. You found a way to win it. But that second half was a trend of what the Lions have been around this time of year every year for the last, you know, since 2016. Yeah, no, you're right about that. And that's how it's going to be the rest of this season. And we got divisional Games left, like you say, the night with Green Bay. And then we got Chicago coming again and we got Minnesota again. So all these games are going to be this way. It won't be. I don't think it's going to be any more blowouts. I don't think you're going to see us blowing teams out like we did a few weeks back. I think all these games going to be tough, competitive games because we know each other so well. And like you said with that Chicago game, man, it started off with us moving the ball but not being able to put up seven points when we need, when we got in the red zone, settling for three points and finding a way, like you said, in the end, with some help from Matt Eberflutz, I'll say it, he gave us a little help, but we were able to overcome that, not going to overtime and win that game. So again, we can expect help like that from the head coach. These are games we're going to have to go into from the start and we're going to have to be able to finish these games. This football team has been transformed under Dan Campbell and thankful that the decision makers there in Detroit didn't get, you know, an itchy trigger finger when things weren't going right right away. And you played during a time where you had, you know, the best running back to maybe ever play and you just couldn't seem to quite get over the top. And it was the Lions. This is different. This team is actually the highest odds to make the super bowl in the nfc, first time ever in NFL history. What's it like to have seen that change there in Detroit with Dan Campbell at the helm and everybody follow suit? Maybe slowly but surely, but the fan base has followed. The team certainly had to believe before anybody else. Yeah, it's been great. It's been great to see it and just think about the job that not only him, but Brad Holmes and Sheila Hamp Ford. Or just think of the job they had to do because Ryan, they had to change a whole culture. It wasn't just a team and an organization. They had to change the whole culture around the Detroit Lions because it was same old Lions. The fans expected us to lose tight games or to find a way to lose a game. You know, it was always, yeah, they gonna get there, but they're not gonna complete the job now. It's so different now with the influx of guys that we brought in. This is a team now. You have to be able to. Being a Lion now, it wasn't like that before anybody could play for the Lions. It's not like that anymore. And to be honest with you, who deserves it more are the fans. Because the fans have been suffering for so long. Ryan it was 30 something years ago when I was here the last time we went to, you know, other than the last year when we went to an NFC championship game, we've never been to a Super Bowl. We don't know what that's like. So we've been suffering a long time. And like I say, I feel so good for the fans around here because they finally have something to really, really cheer about. We're speaking with Lomas Brown, seven time Pro Bowler for the Detroit Lions and the analyst on tonight's broadcast. This packers team a year ago on Thanksgiving, like this was the same time about last year. They came in, no one expected them. I think they were sizable underdog and Jordan Love and this lion or this packers team found a way and then they kind of went on a run that got him into a position into the playoffs. What's this game like, you know, after the last week, a full week off since Thanksgiving, what do you think the most important thing for Detroit to stop this line to this packers team is going to be? The biggest thing for us tonight is for us to stop their run game, stop Josh Jacobs. That's the biggest thing we're going to have to do because they want to run the ball. That's their identity, just like it's the identity of the Detroit, Detroit Lions. That's what we do. We establish the run, Jared Goff and all the rest of the weapons, then they can do what they need to do once the run has been established. So us with us being beat up on the D line, my goodness, Ryan 5, our D lineman won't play tonight, so we're really, really beat up. So if I'm Green Bay, that's where I'm trying to attack the Detroit Lions with my inside run game and see how we hold up against that. So to me, the biggest thing we're going to have to do defensively, stop the run. The biggest thing offensively we're going to have to do is put up seven points when we get in the red zone. We're going to have to outscore the Green Bay Packers. Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I mean, you knew that the Bears weren't going to score in the first half last week. It just, it was not in the cards. So three points were okay. But this is going to be a different story tonight. Lomas, thank you so good to see you. Thanks for taking time today and being a part of the show. Ryan's good seeing you. Thanks for having me. My man. Yes, sir. Lomas Brown, everybody. Seven time Pro Bowler for the said Detroit Lions, played against him when I was with the Dallas Cowboys. Went up to Detroit playing against Barry Sanders. Whoo. That was something special. But he's. He's exactly right. I mean, there is, like, the idea around what do you fear most? You know, do you fear the two teams that are right behind you in the division or anybody outside the division? Because the NFC west and the NFC east or the NFC south, they're just fighting over each other at 6 and 6 or so to get into the playoff and get a. Get a first round playoff game. Philadelphia Eagles, they're a different story. Yeah, the Eagles have just won eight straight, and they cooled off a lot at the end of last season, and a lot of people were down on them to start the season. If you had to pick that game today, Eagles, Lions, you know, this would not have been the answer that I would have given probably two or three weeks ago. But after seeing the Eagles dismantle, I don't care how close that score was. Last week against the Baltimore Ravens, guys, they dismantled Baltimore. That was a beat down. That was an early onslaught of just accepting what was happening and then just putting your foot down on the gas and driving through everything, you know, And I was. I was very critical of their head coach early on. I was like, hey, you know, he seems to be. Nick Sirianni seems to be the liability on this football team with some of the decisions. You recall the Jacksonville Jaguars game, like, he did everything in his power. I felt like to find a way to lose that game and the defense into Kobe. Dean found a way to win it, you know, and I was like, hey, do they really need him? I mean, they got Kellen Moore, they got Vic Fangio, you know, and the answers for most people were Howie Roseman, it's his puppet. And so Howie needs him there to do what he needs his bidding for. But then there's just this fight and this continuation. Being beat up, injuries offensively, Devontae smith being out, A.J. brown being out. Yeah, it's Aquan Barkley. I mean, a running back position, for whatever it's worth. It depends on what team you're on. Dude's been so special. He's been the difference in this football team. He's allowed Jalen Hertz to. There's a so much off the plate of Jalen Hertz this year, and then defensively they've gotten better. Those young guys that maybe struggled a little bit last year, trying to find in their way, they drafted well. So I'm going to say it. If I had to pick a game right now for the NFC Championship to get to the super bowl with the way the teams are playing right now, and maybe Detroit can change my opinion after tonight's performance. Right now it's the Philadelphia Eagles. The performance against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday was one of the most impressive performances I think I've seen from a team that people were skeptical of. For a team that a lot of people have a ton of confidence in. Holly, is there a third best team? I mean, there is, but to you, the third most threatening team in the nfc, you know, I would have said the Atlanta Falcons about five weeks ago, four weeks ago, and they've just absolutely turned tail and run. I'd be a little fearful of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa Bay is 6 and 6. They've won two in a row. And they're the only team in the NFC south that's outscored their opponents this year. They had a lot of close losses in the first half of the season. Yeah, I mean, Baker Mayfield is an absolute stud. I mean, that team, that team would, that team would walk through traffic like 5 o'clock traffic in LA. They're walking through it for Baker Mayfield, you know. You know, they're, they're, they're forced to go to a bachelorette party on a, on a Sunday in the fall. They're doing that for Baker Mayfield. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're totally doing that. A kid's birthday party, whatever. Bachelorette party, kids, birthday party, doesn't matter. Like this, this team would, would bend over backwards for him. They're willing to jump on the lawsuit to sue his dad, too. They're all in it. They're all in it. Everybody, it, it has been. That's the team in the nfc. The packers, of course, the Vikings. The Vikings just find ways to win. Kevin O'Connell, he's got it down. He figures out ways to win that defense. With Brian Flores, they do some fun thing. I mean, I think the NFC is going to be very interesting this year. Very interesting. Afc too. But the Detroit Lions has been the best team. Jared Goff, for me, was the MVP for a long time. I think probably stepped off that MVP bus. When the five interception game happened, though, they found a way to win and then he came back and turned around through like five touchdowns the next week. So he knows how to Overcome, that's for sure. Ironically, it would be completely unbelievable if what Sean McVeigh did to exile him to Detroit, to bring in Matthew Stafford to win a Super bowl, to then watch Jared Goff ultimately win a Super bowl in Detroit, where it's never happened before, where Matthew Stafford couldn't do it. I mean, I think that would be an incredible 30 for 30, everybody. Marvin, if the Lions win the super bowl, who gets a statue? Dan Campbell or Jared Goff? Oh, one statue. Oh, that's Dan Campbell. It's got to give it to coach because he. Because he. Because he, you know, he. He referenced fighting kneecaps. And I think in. In. If you're in Detroit, Jared hasn't said much. Jared. Jared is like, you know, very stoic and just kind of goes about his business. And then you go to Dan and Dan's like, yeah, I'm. I'm, you know, I'm the waiter at Applebee's. I'm freaking biting kneecaps. I'm doing all this stuff. Seaton. Yeah. It really feels like he is the identity of that team. And everybody has bought in 100%. You know, there's no question who the figure ahead is there and who the guy is. So I'm on the field last week, pregame, and I walk up to Jared, and I talk to Jared a little bit, and then I'm walking around, I talked to Amon Ross, st. Brown, and then I see the offensive lineman. I talked to Panay Sewell, and I see these Giants. But guess what? There's even a bigger giant standing right in the middle of them, walking around talking each one of them. And stand. Campbell. Does he lift before the game? And he gets a pump, doesn't he? He looks like he might. He looks like he does, but I think that he's. I think that's just natural, Dan. I think it's natural, Dan. Okay, you guys talked about. You guys. I agree with you that if there is a statue for the Lions, it's Dan Campbell. Any chance you could have co statues like they did in Philadelphia? It's Doug Peterson and Nick Foles together calling that Philly special play. That's the statue off the Super Bowl. Well, there would have to be some sort of corroborating play or something that existed between Dan and Jared. I think that that would have to be the corroborating statue. Otherwise. Otherwise, right now it's Dan Campbell and Dan Campbell alone. Is there anything more weird in sports that Nick Foles has a statue outside the stadium? Is that the weirdest thing in sports, if I said it 10 years ago, Nick Foles. Well, I think as a fan, yes. As a former quarterback and having watched him from Arizona stuff, I'm like, I always, I always knew he was capable of something like that. But the running, so it's not, it's not, it's not super foreign for me. It's weird. Well, he, he has the weirdest pro career of all. He had that 25 touchdown, two interception season. Yeah. Then it didn't work out for a while. Then Carson Wentz gets hurt and he leads them to a Super bowl in a season they thought was over. I mean, it shows. Goes to show, you know, any player who gets it to the NFL at the quarterback level is capable of doing that if they make a run and have a team behind them like they had that year in Philly. And so I love it. I absolutely love it for Nick Foles. I recruited him when I was coaching in college. He, you know, initially went to Michigan State before he got went to Arizona. And he's from a little. Or not a little one. He's from a very, you know, he's from Austin Westlake in, in Austin, Texas, where Drew Brees went as well. Very quarterback heavy. All right, we got to go because when we come back, we're going to, we're going to jump into some. I hear there's some random football questions going to be coming my way. Very random. Very random. All right. All right. We'll find out here. Thanks for listening, everybody. You're listening to the Dan Patrick Show. I'm Ryan Lee filling in. We'll be right back. 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Today there's a play of the day that was the final call from Creighton upsetting number one ranked Kansas last night. Creighton has a tendency to do this thing. Last year they won their last two games against the number one ranked team. They defeated top ranked Connecticut last year. Not only defeated them, they beat him by 20 points, 85, 66 last February. Listen to this. Number one, number two and number five Kansas, Auburn, Marquette, all lost Wednesday. This is the first time in the regular season that three top five teams have lost all in the same day since February 26, 2022. Went all like one through six. Lost by the way, on that day. That's, that's a crazy stat in itself. There you have it. That is the play of the day. College basketball. We talked about that pre show. There's a little, there's a little, I don't know, there's been a rebirth, a little bit. Not as much three point shooting, a little more fundamental technique. Guy actually puts a finger up, they're going to run a back and back pick or something like that. And do you guys feel that when you're watching that? It feels more like traditional basketball than NBA where it's. It feels like it's mostly threes and then some post play. Yes. Because I also think there's such a difference in what college football has become in the eyes of a lot of people. And for whatever reason, NIL still exists in college basketball people. Yet for some reason, no one's really talking about it. Like it's this huge underlying facet that college football has become that's changed a little bit for me. Marvin. I think the big thing is that college football, they have to be there for at least three years so you get to know them or they start to switch schools. Guys like Cooper Flagg and Ace Bailey, those big time recruits. Good point. They're only there for six months and then there for the full school year. The idea that you are more used to as a basketball fan of college football, of college basketball players, it's limited as it is. You know, it may not be a four year type of thing. It may not be that mindset, Paulie. And I think that's what's helped the women's game the past five years. Especially that juju Watkins is not going anywhere. She's just going to be a superstar in college for a long, long time. Caitlin Clark felt like she was there seven years. Paige Bucher's just. Yeah, it's like so much Sabrina Inescu at Oregon. You know, it's. It's storylines repeat from year to year. You don't have. Like when I tuned in, there was a big slate of college basketball last night and I was watching Kansas, Creighton and I had to learn the names of the players on Kansas. Yeah. As you know, you can't follow it. It just changes so fast. Yeah, I couldn't. I'm gonna. Cooper flag is the only one. And I think it's just because you reminded me of it today, I realistically couldn't give you. I might give you. Be able to give you a. Washington. No, I went to a Washington State game the other night, but. But I still don't have that for you. All right, poll update here. Seaton. Before we go. Yeah. We can grab you a quick update. Okay. We've got two of them working right now. Based off of tonight's game. Well, kind of perception wise, how important is tonight's game for the Lions? Extremely or not at all. That's 50. 50. It's a pretty good poll question. I think they're probably hedging their bets a little bit. Their Lions fans are like, you know. Yeah, you know, it's not that big a deal. Not that big deal. Who would you rather see win the Super Bowl, Bills or Lions? Right now lions have 60% of that. Interesting, interesting. I'm Bills. I love the Lions. I'd love to see Jared Goff do it. I'd hate to see them play each other. This is like a Harbaugh, Harbaugh Super Bowl. Like, I don't want to see that again. I don't, I don't. I know them both. I love them both. I don't want them to have to do that. I can't imagine what their parents were going through. I don't know, man. It kind of sounds like the most ideal matchup I've ever heard of. Yeah, well, of course it is. I don't want it. This is, hey, don't forget this is all about me. All right, so go to something here. This was brought up before the show and I thought this was very interesting. Random, random football questions from the Danettes to myself here or is there any order we want to start in? Mr. You pick. Let's go. Seaton O'Connor, what did the Panthers do with Bryce Young? He's your first round pick from a year ago. You got a brand new coach, you benched him after four or five games forcefully by an owner and then he's come back and realistically won you the game last week on a comeback. So he's your quarterback for the future. If you don't see that, then you are delusional to what you think can happen moving forward. Paulie, I'm going to go off season. Sam Darnold's 27. Russell Wilson is 36. They'll both be complete free agents. Who is more valuable or who will be more desired in the free agency market? Ironically, the 36 year old because of his experience and if they are able to go deep into the playoffs or even put themselves in a position to go to a Super bowl, it's going to be Russell Wilson. He's going to be able to demand some, some top dollar in reference to Sam Darnold. All he has unless the Minnesota Vikings is forms of success that ultimately end in the eyes of a lot of people, failure. And he's only 27 years old but he's been, you know, he's been the youngest guy in the room forever. Like he, I think he was drafted at 14, so it's, it's not like that for me is going to be overwhelming. If he's good enough for the Vikings to get to an NFC championship game, he's good enough to be your starting quarterback in Minnesota. Hey, I know you just drafted J.B. mcCarthy, but guess what? He's also on a rookie deal. This is an opportunity still to have two great quarterbacks because something you pointed out to me. You could pay Sam Darnold a reasonable amount of money to be your starting quarterback and still have JJ McCarthy on a rookie deal. And you have an unbelievable quarterback room. So don't poo poo that idea out there, Vikings fans. That's a real thing. That could be the case. You don't poo poo here. Don't we don't poo poo here. Fritzi Albert Breer was on the show recently and Dan and all of us were surprised when he said seven to 10 coaches could possibly lose their job by Black Monday. How many coaches should be worried that they're going to be gone by years? Every coach should be worried. Every coach, every coach should be worried. This is super bowl time. The Chiefs own it. If you're not doing something to inch closer to get to that, you better be looking behind you because they're going to. These owners are going to want to own a championship, so they're going to move by it. 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