Hour 1 – LSU Fires Brian Kelly for $54M Buyout, Andy Staples

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1: LSU Fires Brian Kelly for $54M Buyout, Andy Staples

Date: October 27, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick (iHeartPodcasts, Dan Patrick Podcast Network)
Featured Guest: Andy Staples, On3 Sports

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Overview

In this episode, Dan Patrick dives into one of the biggest stories in college football: LSU firing head coach Brian Kelly for a $54M buyout after a blowout loss to Texas A&M. The show blends Dan’s signature humor, insider insights, and panel banter, touching on NFL storylines, MVP debates, and college football job openings. Andy Staples joins to provide expert commentary on the Brian Kelly firing, coaching carousel, and the shifting landscape of college football.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. LSU Fires Brian Kelly – Reaction & Fallout

• Background: LSU has fired head coach Brian Kelly after only three seasons, buying him out for $54 million following a home loss to Texas A&M.
• Immediate Takeaways:
  • Dan and the crew highlight the shock in the college sports world but note that this move wasn’t entirely surprising due to poor fit and performance.
  • Discussion of the growing trend of massive buyouts and quick coaching changes in college football.

Dan Patrick:

“Brian Kelly, it was never a good fit. We talked about it...it felt like something was going to happen there, and not a good thing.” (09:17)

• Why Did This Happen?
  • Dan and Andy discuss how LSU boosters and alumni have very little patience after heavy investment in coaches and players.
  • Firing longtime strength coach Tommy Moffat, an LSU institution, marked an early misstep for Kelly and soured key relationships.
  • LSU’s recent history: All three previous LSU coaches won national titles by year four; expectations were sky-high.

Andy Staples:

“Once the governor decides you’re fired, you’re going to be fired.” (25:27)

• Personality Fit:
  • Brian Kelly’s personality apparently grated on people at LSU, and in the absence of on-field success, this became a liability.

Covino:

“It feels like there is no scandal. There is no anything. We just don’t like you… rather than some big blow up.” (11:33)

2. What’s Next for Brian Kelly?

• Buyout Details:
  • Brian Kelly gets $53M but must mitigate by seeking other work (standard contract clause).
  • At age 64, will Kelly seek another coaching job—or ride off into the sunset?
• Coaching “Fraternity” Factor:
  • Dan and Staples debate whether a coach like Kelly could retire on this note or, driven by pride and competitive fire, will need to find a new opportunity.

Dan Patrick:

“You can’t leave the coaching world, community, fraternity this way. That’s not the way these guys are wired.” (27:56)

3. Coaching Carousel: Lane Kiffin, Urban Meyer, and More

• Lane Kiffin:
  • Staples calls him “the hottest name in the coaching carousel” with both Florida and LSU likely interested, in addition to Ole Miss hoping to keep him.
  • Kiffin will likely wait for the biggest payday, with Staples referencing the famous “Breaking Bad” money pile scene. (29:27)
• Urban Meyer & Nick Saban:
  • Speculation about top-tier coaches returning to college football (including jobs like Penn State), but Staples is skeptical, noting the TV gigs are easier and the current NCAA environment is less appealing.

4. Best Coaching Jobs in College Football (Current Openings)

• Staples’ Rankings:
  1. LSU – Best because even non-legendary coaches have won national titles; resources and recruiting are elite.
  2. Florida & Penn State – Tied; both are high pressure with high ceilings, but Florida has “a quick hook.”
  3. Other Potential Openings – Tulane, Memphis if coaches leave.

Andy Staples:

“At Florida, you might have to be a Hall of Fame coach to get there. At LSU, you don’t necessarily have to be that, and that’s why I give them the nod.” (31:02)

5. Who Might Fill Those Jobs?

• Potential Candidates:
  • Penn State: Names like Jeff Brohm (Louisville), Eli Drinkwitz (Missouri), Bob Chesney (James Madison/Holy Cross), and even Clark Lea (Vanderbilt).
  • Discussion about hiring from less traditional pipelines and ignoring “we can’t hire from that school again” limitations.

6. The NIL, Transfer Portal, and Buyout Era

• Changing Dynamics:
  • Patience for coaches is gone—big money for both coaches and players means shorter timelines for success.
  • Debate about contract structures—Staples advocates for large annual pay, but shorter guarantees, akin to Hollywood’s shift to front-loaded streaming contracts.
  • Dan proposes back-end profit sharing for coaches as an alternative.

Andy Staples:

“If you paid [the coach] $15 million a year for three years, you’re only guaranteeing him $45 million… They would have taken that!” (36:54)

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NFL Roundup & Other Sports Banter

1. NFL MVP Discussion: Running Backs vs. QBs

• Is Jonathan Taylor the NFL MVP?
  • Dan points out Taylor’s stellar stats but notes that running backs are rarely rewarded, instead relegated to “Offensive Player of the Year.”
  • Discussion about historical MVP voting trends (last RB to win: Adrian Peterson, 2012).

Dan Patrick:

“Jonathan Taylor, to me, is the leading candidate, in my opinion, for MVP. But… it’s like running backs are the best supporting actors. They can’t win best actor; they can win best supporting actor.” (15:48)

2. Cowboys Defensive Woes & Trade Hypothetical

• Suggested Fix:
  • Trade for star pass rusher Myles Garrett (Browns), using the Cowboys’ ample draft capital.
  • Dan points out that NFL teams must balance fan interest, salary cap, and entertainment value before such a move.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Brian Kelly’s Fit at LSU:
  “There’s certain places, especially in the SEC, where you go, ‘That doesn’t fit.’ It doesn’t mean he’s not a good coach... I think there is this: ‘I don’t like Brian Kelly because of his personality.’ … Brian Kelly never fit there.”
  — Dan Patrick (09:17)

• On College Coaching Expectations:
  “You got three years, it feels like... They may run Dabo Swinney out of Clemson. I didn’t think that would ever happen.”
  — Dan Patrick (10:43)

• On Buyouts & Contracts:
  “The ADs need to figure out how to guarantee less money than they’re guaranteeing now... Offer them more money than they think they’re going to get, but guarantee it for three years.”
  — Andy Staples (35:10)

• On Lane Kiffin’s Leverage:
  “The scene in Breaking Bad where Huell just lays on the pile of money, that’s Lane Kiffin right now. Ole Miss wants to keep him. Florida wants him bad. I imagine LSU wants him, too. ...Just keep milking this thing.”
  — Andy Staples (29:27)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• LSU Fires Brian Kelly / Buyout Reaction: 05:55–11:58
• Dan and Andy Staples on Coaching Dust-up: 25:27–37:36
• NFL MVP Running Back Debate: 12:59–16:44
• Discussion of Cowboys, trade ideas: 50:11–55:02

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Listener Calls: Best & Worst of the Weekend

• Buddha in San Francisco & Others:
  • Jokes about uniforms, Dodgers’ victory, and “dumpster fire” of the Brian Kelly era at LSU (37:52–39:29).
  • Colorful, humorous banter punctuating the show’s signature style.

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Tone & Style

The episode features Dan Patrick’s signature blend of informed, irreverent sports talk with quick wit, expert insight, and a sense of community among the crew and listeners. The conversations are candid, often laced with self-deprecating humor and authenticity.

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Summary for New Listeners

If you missed this episode, you’ll come away understanding why Brian Kelly’s tenure at LSU ended so abruptly, how big money is changing the sport, which jobs and coaches are in play in the college ranks, and get a taste of NFL banter on MVPs and team struggles. The Andy Staples interview breaks down the seismic shifts in college football and gives a reality check on coaching expectations and industry trends.

Recommended for those who want to keep up with both the drama and business of sports, accompanied by lively panel commentary.

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Well, as always, we usually start Monday off with who had the worst weekend and we like to populate that. I was just looking over. I haven't put this list together just yet, but it was a bad week for second chance backups.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Covino]

I'm putting Kirk Cousins in that category.

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I got, man, Raheem Morris might be on the warm seat here and Bijon Robinson didn't do anything. That's a tough team. You know, Drake London was banged up. I believe Michael Penix Jr. The third was out, Kurt Cousins, but oh, man, not good. Yeah, Seaton, you can't.

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That seems to be a, like, team culture issue there. Right? You can't have that many name brand players, so to speak, not perform.

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It seems like we keep waiting for them.

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Go be good. Not good. Who else is on the list?

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How's Sam?

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Oh, yeah, not Sam. Darn. My bad. No, not Sam. Donald. Forget about that. I wrote that down wrong. I could jump to best college football job opening right now. Lsu, Penn State, Florida, other. Okay, well, Brian Kelly had a bad week.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, he did. And this is very snarky. But we had some people reach out to Fritzi and ask if he was going to get the Brian Kelly LSU clothes, because Brian. Brian Kelly sent me his Notre Dame gear extra large, and I gave them all to Fritzi. I can make some room in the closet. So we got some LSU gear there with Brian Kelly that may be maybe coming your way. Todd. Yes, Paul.

[Marv]

And everything's about comparisons. Brian Kelly leaves Notre Dame because he couldn't win a national title there. Notre Dame is doing very well. And in the playoffs every year, it's always in comparison where you left and what you're doing now.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep, that's a big buyout that seems to be the rage here. And this is. This is the new college football. There's going to be more of this. Because if you're spending that kind of money on your coach, that kind of money on your players, you don't have the patience that you once did. And I think that's what you're seeing, whether it's Penn State or LSU or Oklahoma State, they want to see, what are we doing? And then you'll get these teams like Arizona State or SMU or Indiana, and they kind of come out of nowhere and you're like, wait a minute, I thought we were supposed to be the blue blood powerhouse here. But Brian Kelly, it was never a good fit. We talked about it. I think I've talked about it just about every week. It felt like there was something that was going to happen there and not a good thing. And you lose at home, but sometimes it's where you lose and how much you lose by, and you get blown out by Texas A and M. And if you're there and you're a booster, alumni, it hurts even more. And you know your patients, hey, we're losing three games. You're the one who talked about national championship. You're the one that talked about, hey, keeping receipts here. Brian Kelly never fit there. There's certain places where, especially in the sec, where you go, that doesn't fit. It doesn't mean he's not a good coach. He's proven that, that he's a really good coach. I think there is this. I don't like Brian Kelly because of his personality or how he is on the sidelines or how he is in A press conference. He's a good coach, but I think there's people who look at him and they don't like him because of his personality. Now, he didn't win big games. And just ask James Franklin. You got to win those games, especially at home. This was supposed to be a team that was going to compete for a national championship or at least be in the playoffs. And it just. You got three years, it feels like. And I don't care who you are, you got three years. I mean, they may run Dabo Sweeney out of Clemson. I didn't think that would ever happen. But James Franklin. Yeah. Nice. Here's some parting gifts. Brian Kelly, we gave you a chance. Now we move on.

[Covino]

Yes, Eden, it is weird because it does feel like there is no scandal, There is no anything. We just don't like you. It's like personality based. With Brian Kelly, it kind of feels like we just don't like you and how you are rather than there is no cheating scandal. There is no other big blow up. He didn't hit somebody he didn't like. There's no other thing like that. It's just you.

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8773 DP Show Email Address DP dan patrick.com Twitter Handle @DP Show as we always do every Monday, best and worst of the weekend. The strength and conditioning coach who was at LSU, I think for about 22, 23 years, Tommy Moffatt, he's the strength and conditioning coach at Texas A and M. During practice, apparently they had a picture of Brian Kelly on a tackling dummy. And so the strength and conditioning coach was very proud of what he did and what A and M did at lsu. Brian Kelly let him go. Okay, so phone calls coming up. By the way, Fritzi's Broncos great performance against the Dallas Cowboys. Not that you had anything to do with it, but congratulations.

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Seaton's here. Marv. Paulie, yours truly. The Brgs as well. You know, we talked about this with the MVP in the NFL. It's going to go to a quarterback. That's why they came up with the offensive player of the year, which I hate. I think it's embarrassing. Is Jonathan Taylor the MVP right now? Is he the most valuable player? Considering what his team is doing and what he's doing, he's averaging six yards to carry, 14 touchdowns on pace for 1800 yards. And you would be surprised where he ranks in the MVP candidates on DraftKings. Your MVP right now is Patrick Mahomes. His numbers aren't great. Now. Do I think they're still the best team in the AFC? I do. Even at a pedestrian four and three record. Josh Allen is second, Drake May 3, Baker Mayfield Jr. III and Matthew Stafford, then Jared Goff, then Daniel Jones, then Jonathan Taylor. Okay, now, this is Vegas. You know this DraftKings and their odds here. But Jonathan Taylor is the most valuable player right now in the NFL. It's just, we don't want to acknowledge the last time we had an MVP was what, oh, five, Adrian Peterson. Oh, six, Jonathan. And we've seen running backs get 2,000 yards. It's like, yeah, okay, we're going to give it to Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson in previous years. Jonathan Taylor, to me, is the leading candidate, in my opinion, for mvp. But this is what I saw yesterday. You know, he's leading candidate for offensive player of the year, Mike. Okay, that's. That's what his job is. Offensively, he's the best player. Offensively, is he not eligible for the mvp? It's sort of like a running back with a Heisman. Wait, is he. Is he allowed to win this? Yeah, Paul.

[Marv]

Adrian Peterson won it in 2012, but he needed the story to come off the injury from the year before, so he needed the bonus story. Tomlinson got it in 2006. Sean Alexander, 2005. That's it for the past 25.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yeah. AP was in 2012 or 2011. You said 2012. Okay. Then Ladanian Tomlinson prior to that, but that's it. That was a different NFL with Ladanian Tomlinson. Yeah, that's. I. That was surprising. But we keep using the offensive player of the year like Christian McCaffrey be his offensive player of the year. Can he be most valuable? And it doesn't feel like the voters that they're going to acknowledge that. It's like running backs are the best supporting actors. They can't win best actor. They can win best supporting actor. Yes.

[Marv]

Paul, can we combine a vote for Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones, like a combo platter for mvp?

[Dan Patrick]

Jonathan Jones. Yes. And Daniel Jones has done really, really well. And the biggest thing is no turnovers. That's the key. Daniel Jones can play, and he's playing at a higher level than probably a lot of people thought. You got a good offensive line, you got a great running back, and the Colts taking advantage of, okay, they got a couple of breaks. You know, the game against the Broncos, the game against the Chargers. Chargers were banged up, undermanned. But they still won those games. And you win on the road against the Chargers and yes, you'd still beat a very good Broncos team. Yes, Marvin.

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[Dan Patrick]

Will keep him from getting real MVP votes? Oh, yes, yes, yes. He's not going to win mvp. He'd be the most random MVP ever. Correct. Besides Mark Mosley. Yeah. Well, that was a kicker. Imagine you have the highest offense, highest scoring offense, and we're going to give it to a kicker. A kicker. Yes. More if the Cowboys made the playoffs. No, their kicker would be the mvp. No Dak. No Dak. I even saw a headline said, did Dak lose the MVP by, you know, a subpar performance against the Broncos? I'm like, well, we're really trying to get the Cowboys in the conversation there. And I, Jerry Jones finally said, uncle. He finally said, okay, maybe we don't have a good defense here. No, Jerry, you do not have a good defense. That's why you reached out to the Bengals for Trey Hendrickson and to the Raiders for Max Crosby because you had Micah Parsons. And that's the big difference here. I truly thought with Micah Parsons they were a playoff team. Without him, you can't score enough points. And going against Denver. That Denver team is great defensively, although Patrick certain banged up his shoulder. But you know, they, they have the most sacks and they've allowed the fewest sacks. It's a great combo platter for the Broncos here. All right, we'll settle on a poll question from the first hour and we'll get to your phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend, as we always do. But more on the Brian Kelly situation and what is the best job opening here in college football. We'll talk to andy Staples from On3Sports. Bill Cower will stop by as bell. We're back after this in the Dan Patrick Show.

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[Marv]

Hey, he's no Trey McDougal.

[Dan Patrick]

Chill.

[Covino]

This is like the comments section of my Instagram.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Seton brought up Sam Darnold. Not Having a good weekend. And then during the commercial break, he goes, no, I meant to say Andy Dalton. And I said, okay, that's an honest mistake there.

[Covino]

I, yeah, I have a hard time for some reason separating those two guys. I really do.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, Sam has played pretty well this year, but Andy Dalton got a little playing time. It didn't go well.

[Covino]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. 8 7, 7, 3, DP show email address [e-mail] Twitter handle @DP Show. Andy Staples covers college football for On3Sports. He was at the Florida Gators game with Mississippi State, Billy Napier's last game. And he's got Penn State, Ohio State coming up on Saturday. But the big story is Brian Kelly at lsu. Could Brian Kelly have kept his job for another week for the lsu, Alabama game?

[Paulie]

I mean, I don't know if he could have or not. The way they lost to Texas A and M, I think the, the wheels were turning. There were multiple reports, and we heard a lot of different things about, you know, was he going to make certain staff changes? Did he push back on other staff changes? I don't think it mattered. I think the way they lost to Texas A and M, they were passing the hat, essentially, in the luxury suites during the game, saying, hey, can you help fund the buyout? So it didn't matter at that point. And then, you know, the governor gets involved. They have a meeting at the governor's mansion last night. Like, once the governor decides you're fired, you're going to be fired.

[Dan Patrick]

Why was this doomed from the beginning?

[Paulie]

I, you know, I just don't think Brian Kelly understood the job he was taking. You go back to the comments after the Florida game where he said the fans are spoiled. Well, of course they're spoiled. The last three coaches at LSU won national titles by year four. But, you know, he made mistakes at the beginning. So he gets there. He fires Tommy Moffat, their longtime strength coach. Tommy Moffett was the strength coach for Nick Saban, for Les Miles, for Ed Oron. So for three national titles. And what does Tommy Moffett do? He goes and gets the job at Texas A and M with Mike Elko and makes it his life mission to create a tougher team than LSU. And what has happened the last two years in the second half, Texas A&M has annihilated LSU. When you don't recognize you have something special and there are certain things that make the place special, and you just dump them right off the bat. You don't understand what you've, what you've Gotten yourself into.

[Dan Patrick]

What's Brian Kelly's future?

[Paulie]

I mean, he's 64 years old, so he's tell. He's told people he wants to coach. My question is, would he take any of the jobs that will hire him right now? And there's a duty to mitigate in his buyout. So he's got a $53 million buyout. If he gets another job, the salary comes off the total for lsu. It's interesting because I think, you know, depending on the interpretation, the duty to mitigate sometimes is all almost like an unemployment check, like you have to be looking for work. So I think of the Bea Arthur scene in History of the World, Part one, Gladiator. Did you. Did you kill today? Have you tried to kill this week? Like, I think that may be more. More what there is to it. I mean, listen, Dan, if it were me and somebody handed me $53 million to not work, you would never, ever see me again.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but you can't leave the coaching world, community, fraternity this way. If. I mean, that's not the way. These guys are wired, you know, that's why we're trying to bring back Urban Meyer. We're trying to bring back Nick Saban. You know, you keep going.

[Paulie]

We are, but they're not.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you think Urban Meyer is. Is he entertaining the thought of maybe coaching at Penn State?

[Paulie]

I think he entertains it for a day or two. And then he thinks, man, that was.

[Dan Patrick]

A lot of work.

[Paulie]

When I was a college football coach, I got a pretty good gig at Fox right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I agree. The same thing with Saban. Everybody goes, your first call should be Nick Saban. And I go, nick Saban is not going to come out of retirement to do this. The current landscape of college football sent him to ESPN. Yes, but Brian Kelly at 64, I can't believe this is his last act.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I.

[Paulie]

It's going to be interesting because it probably will depend on what sort of jobs he can get now if he winds up back at Central Michigan or that. That level of job, which is a place he. He worked on his way up. I just can't imagine him just taking that. And so we'll see. There's going to be a lot of jobs open, Dan, So not just the big ones that are open now, but you could see Tulane open, you could see Memphis open, because those coaches went into other jobs. Would Brian Kelly take one of those jobs? I don't know. And that's. That's the tricky part, because I don't think he's Going to get hired for one of these big ones, especially not after the way things went at lsu.

[Dan Patrick]

How hot is Lane Kiffin today?

[Paulie]

He is. He is the hottest name in the coaching carousel. We were joking on my show last night. The scene in Breaking Bad where Huell just lays on the pile of money, that's Lane Kiffin right now. Because Ole Miss wants to keep him. Florida wants him bad. He's Florida's first choice. I imagine LSU wants him, too. And if you're laying until somebody hits the dollar figure you're looking for, you just keep milking this thing. Like, I don't know what he's going to do. I don't know if he wants to stay at Ole Miss, if he wants to go to Florida, if he wants to go to lsu, but I wouldn't do anything until the cash register stops spinning.

[Dan Patrick]

What do you think he. He will do?

[Paulie]

It's so hard to predict, Dan, because, you know, if they'd lost Oklahoma this weekend, you, you could envision maybe Ole missing the playoff. Maybe he's available. Maybe he says, oh, I can't make the playoff here. There's probably a ceiling that, that I need to go somewhere else where there's a higher ceiling. But look, after they beat Oklahoma, you're looking at the rest of their schedule. They're probably going to go 11 and 1. If they, if they lose something they shouldn't lose, they'll be 10 and 2 and they'll probably still make the playoff. So if you can make the playoff, if you can compete for the SEC title, you can win the national title at Ole Miss. So I don't know that there's a huge ceiling argument between Ole Miss and Florida and lsu. I think it comes down to where do you want to work? And then that's, that's a different question. And I don't know if I can answer that one for Lane Kiffin. I think that's, that's going to be his personal preference.

[Dan Patrick]

Rank the job openings.

[Paulie]

Right now, LSU is number one. And then I'd say Florida and Penn State are kind of 2 and 2A. And the reason I say LSU is number one and I, I went to Florida, so I get a lot of heat at home for this. But LSU has had three of their last four coaches win the national title. One of those is Nick Saban. So all time great coach. Do we think Les Miles and Odors Run are all time great coaches? I'm not sure about that, but they both won national titles there. Florida, Steve Spurrier won a national title. Urban Meyer, 1, 2. That is two hall of Fame head coaches. So at Florida, you might have to be a Hall of Fame head coach to get there. At lsu, you don't necessarily have to be that, and that's why I give them the nod. And in Florida and Penn State, they're both programs where you can win the national title. They're both programs where you can be very, very successful. But there's going to be a ton of pressure. And they, like Florida has had a quick hook. Think about this. You know, since Urban Meyer, four coaches fired within four years. They do not tolerate mediocrity at Florida. And the thing is, you've got to be pretty special to get above that.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to Andy Staples, he covers college football on three sports. It's Penn State and Ohio State. He'll be at that game coming up on Saturday. What's Penn State? Do you.

[Paulie]

It's a great question, Dan, because, you know, the, the obvious connection at first was Matt Rule, who's at Nebraska now. He worked with the Penn State ad, Pat Kraft, when he was the head coach at Temple, and Pat was the, the Temple ad. But I'm not sure that Matt needs to move. I think Matt probably needs to stay where he is at Nebraska. And then you look at the, the landscape, and there's not like an obvious lane kiffin that Florida wants and LSU wants for Penn State. So, you know, you can look at the guys that are having success. Like, I think people should look at Jeff Braum at Louisville, at Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri. Those are guys that have taken situations where it shouldn't be that easy to win, and they've done really well. Like Jeff Braum took Purdue to the Big Ten championship game, immediately made Louisville better. So those are types of guys that you let. Penn State should also look at Bob Chesney. If you want to look at Kurt Signetti and what he did at Indiana, look at the profile. He was James Madison's head coach, and before that he was Elon's head coach. So he had this level by level, get better every time. That's kind of what Bob Chesney's done. He went from Holy Cross to James Madison, very successful, very good recruiter of the Northeast. So that's a guy you should look at. And I know James Madison sitting here going, oh, come on, we just lost Signetti. Please don't do this to us.

[Dan Patrick]

Could Penn State hire a Vanderbilt head coach? Could they do that again?

[Paulie]

CLARK LEE yeah, you know, I think you can do that. It's, it's really interesting, Dan, because I hate the whole idea of, well, we can't hire the. A guy from the school that we've hired from before, or we can't hire a group of five head coach because.

[Dan Patrick]

We did that before.

[Paulie]

I think enough time passed. And also I think James Franklin was a successful hire at Penn State. He won them a Big Ten title. He was there a long time. So it's not like hiring the Vanderbilt coach again is the same thing that you just did. And in fact, if it works out the way James Franklin worked out, that's a good. That's a good outcome. It's a good result. So, yes, Clark Lee would be a very good choice at Penn State. He'd be a very good choice at LSU or Florida as well. But he's, he's at his alma mater. And that's what's interesting about this. There's a bunch of good coaches right now at their alma mater. So it's to take a little bit more to get like a Clark Lee, a Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State, a Brent Key at Georgia Tech, because they're, they're at their alma maters.

[Dan Patrick]

The impact on nil with the coaches because these buyouts, you know, patience is running thin. You got three years, it feels like. But the expectation level of we're going to pay you $10 million. We're going to pay your players a total of $21 million. It. This is the future, I'm guessing with college football that this is the transfer portal in nil. And the coaches, I would say paying the price, but they get paid to pay the price.

[Paulie]

I was gonna say they're not paying the price. They're still getting guaranteed gobs of money. Like, what they need to do is the ads need to figure out how to guarantee less money than they're guaranteeing now. You shouldn't have to pay as big of a buyout as you did for Jimbo Fisher or James Franklin or Brian Kelly. That's the ad's fault for getting knocked in the creek by an agent. The solution may be actually. And the person who told me this actually works with actors in Hollywood. And they said they had to change the model when Netflix and the streaming services came in because you didn't have residuals and mailbox money. So they started front loading the contracts. And this person's like, what they need to do is pay them an obscene amount of money per year, guaranteed for three years, but it doesn't need to be guaranteed for six or seven years. Like, they're doing now? Because it used to be, Dan, before the Nil era, you had to have four years on your contract. So you can go into mama's house and be like, see, I'm going to be here the entire time your son's here. Even though we all know that was a lie. The players aren't stupid. They all have agents now. It doesn't matter how long you have on the coach's contract. So offer them more money than they think they're going to get, but guarantee it for three years. That way if they suck for two years, you can dump out.

[Dan Patrick]

I've been saying that. I mean, Kurt Signetti is a great story. I never would have given somebody 10 years.

[Paulie]

That's an $95 million.

[Dan Patrick]

It's crazy. I. He's done a great job. I love it. But the most I would ever give is five years. And even then, how about I give you like, you know, actors get back end money after a movie is residuals. Yeah. What if I said to the coach, hey, we're going to give you back end money on the profits that we have with our football program.

[Paulie]

I don't know that you can sell a piece of the program, especially at State University. But think about this, Dan. It's $95 million is how much they guaranteed Kurt Signetti. If you paid him $15 million a year for three years, you're only guaranteeing him 45 million. And if it works out great, then give him another deal. But if it doesn't, then you're not tied up. And he would have taken that because it had made him the highest paid coach.

[Dan Patrick]

Can Indiana win the national title?

[Paulie]

Yes, this Indiana team can. This Indiana team is loaded. They got a bunch of NFL dudes. Kirsten Eddy tried to tell us and we didn't listen, but they, they brought back almost all of what made last year's team special. And then they upgraded at quarterback when they got Fernando Mendoza at Cal. So they absolutely can, can compete with anybody.

[Dan Patrick]

Great to talk to you again, Andy. Thank you.

[Paulie]

Thank you, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Andy Staples covers college football on three sports. That was a quick yes for Indiana. Best and worst of the weekend. Let's get started on this Monday. Buddha in San Francisco leads us off. Good morning, Buddha.

[Caller or Guest]

Feliz Lunas, DP yellow. Dennis Fritzi. Dan, real quick, I just gotta say, you guys were talking about this last week. I get lost in your greatness all the time, Dan. But on the, on the last night, DP before the packers and the Steelers even kicked off, the packers had already won. I mean, The Steelers uniforms, they look like some odd combo of like traffic signage and like weird sand like sandy burning man pants. I was like.

[Dan Patrick]

They, it looked like they had khakis on. You're not intimidating anybody when you come out there with khaki football pants on. What else?

[Caller or Guest]

Buddha, Best of the weekend, dp my Dodger Saturday night. And our ace, Yoshi Nobu Yamamoto, who went on to do two complete back to back games. And then even better, Dan, he buzzed the tower and plucked cheating towards Springer and evening series Saturday night. And then after that, Dan, before he went to the locker room, you know what he did? He picked up and cleaned up all the trash in the dugout. He's a good ass dude, man. And worse of the weekend, the dumpster fire. That was the Brian Kerry Kelly era, Dan. I mean in lsu. I mean we all remember his quote at the LSU basketball game. For he had, he'd even coached a game like in his choppy southern accent. And I haven't even won all my games yet. And all I gotta say, we all know what Ed o' Giron is thinking about this whole situation. Not.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you Buddha Yamamoto, first pitcher to throw consecutive complete games in a postseason since Kurt Schilling, Diamondbacks. Schilling did it three consecutive games for the Diamondbacks in the 01 playoffs. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. Oh, look who's back since his Mets crap the bed. It's Barry in Long Island. Hey, Barry.

[Caller or Guest]

Good morning, fellows. Good morning, Jet Row. That's quite the welcome. Thank you very much.

[Dan Patrick]

Give me your Jets. All right, I'll listen to you now here's the thing.

[Caller or Guest]

I wasn't going to call until they won. And then yesterday morning I figured, you know what, I might not speak to the guys till next year. So I'm going to call anyway. And look what they did. They won. Yeah, it's a miracle. A little subdued. J E T S Jets, Jets, Jets. But you know, at least they, they won one. You know, let's, let's get that number one pick and screw him up too.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, well, thank you, Barry. Yeah, give credit to the jets and you know, Justin Fields, they played well. That's, that's a loss. Where we're going to look back at the end of the year with the Bengals and go, go once again. If you missed the playoffs by a game, just like the previous year, they lost at home to the Patriots starting the season, I said that's going to cost him. Going to cost him David in Ohio. Hi David. What's on your mind today?

[Caller or Guest]

Hey, what's up Dan? I got an absolute worst of the weekend here. My Steelers lose in dramatic fashion the fighting Charlie Brown outfits that they wore last night. Guess the defense on the payroll just doesn't work out anymore. And then I got a quick Cowboys rush here. Todd might like the Cowboys went up to Denver and got hit so hard it felt like 95 again. Fitting since that's the last time actually beat the Broncos. Mariah Carey was number one on the Billboard charts for fantasy. Todd's Broncos dropped 44 like it was mixtape release. And the Cowboys defense look more like Dak trying to find Austin a mile high. Without Micah Parsons, that defense couldn't stop a shopping cart rolling down the hill. Last time Dallas beat Denver, Corey Aikman was a quarterback, Mariah was running radio, and Jerry Jones was still using a flip phone. Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Alrighty. That's David. He crammed a lot in there. We might have a suggestion for the Cowboys. We'll take a break here. Our play of the day is up next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live life's messy.

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In the new podcast Hell in Heaven. Two young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead, the other tried for murder. Not once.

[Paulie]

People went wild.

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[Caller or Guest]

They actually lose it.

[Paulie]

They sort of went nuts.

[Podcast Trailer Narrator]

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[Covino]

The Crying Wolf podcast is the story of two men bound by injustice, of a city haunted by its secrets and the quest for redemption, no matter the price.

[Dan Patrick]

White victim, female, pretty, wealthy, black defendant.

[Covino]

Chicago, a white woman's murder. A black man behind bars for a crime he didn't commit.

[Caller or Guest]

I got 90 years for killing somebody I have never seen.

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[Dan Patrick]

And then that's it. They turn on him.

[Paulie]

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[Dan Patrick]

That's crazy.

[Covino]

A snitch and a life stolen.

[Dan Patrick]

They got the wrong guy.

[Covino]

But on the inside, Lee Harris finds an ally in his celly, Robert, who swears to tell the truth about what happened to Lee and free his friend.

[Dan Patrick]

And if you're with me, you're golden.

[Caller or Guest]

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[Covino]

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[Covino]

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[Dan Patrick]

When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong.

[Covino]

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[Marv]

Hey, there.

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I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City or just the Internet's dad? I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture.

[Dan Patrick]

Daddy's looking good.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me. Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms. And we talk about what they love.

[Covino]

Sometimes I'll drizzle honey in there too if I'm feeling sexy in the morning.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

What keeps them going?

[Dan Patrick]

And you're maybe my biggest competition on social media.

[Covino]

Like when a kid says bra to.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Me and how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality.

[Covino]

In Australia, you're looking out for snakes.

[Dan Patrick]

Spiders and boys, right?

[Marv]

Hey, he's no Trey McDougal.

[Dan Patrick]

Chill.

[Covino]

This is like the comments section of my Instagram.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Caller or Guest]

Oh my God.

[Dan Patrick]

The play. The play's gonna play of the day. This is the play of the day. Check this out. First and go jets at the four yard line of Cincinnati. Eye formation toss sweep to the right.

[Caller or Guest]

Bree Hall. He's going to throw the ball. Pumps one, throws back in the end zone. It's caught Mason Taylor, the option pass right by Bree hall for a touchdown.

[Paulie]

And the jets are a point after.

[Caller or Guest]

Away from the lead.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Caller or Guest]

Here comes that.

[Dan Patrick]

What? Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. You wouldn't have gotten that player. It's Rod Gardner in 2003, the last non quarterback to throw a touchdown game winning touchdown pass in the final two minutes of the game or overtime or over time. By the way, Ryan Kelly was asked about his job security on Saturday after the loss to Texas A and M. Here's the question and the answer. What level of concern do you have for Yourself, with the faith the program.

[Covino]

Should have for you.

[Dan Patrick]

That's out of my hands. Know.

[Paulie]

It'S impossible for the head coach.

[Dan Patrick]

That'S been here, you know, for four years and 35 years of doing this.

[Paulie]

To think anything else.

[Dan Patrick]

But this is my responsibility and we've.

[Paulie]

Got to get it turned around.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he won't get that opportunity. All right. We promised or hinted at a quick fix for the Dallas Cowboys defense. They're putting up historical numbers. It's a shame because the offense is really good. It's just the defense. All they have to be is average. If they were like 16th in the NFL, they're 31st right now. So the quick fix would be what, Paul?

[Marv]

The trade deadline is a week away. The Cowboys are the leading scoring team in football. They made a mistake by letting Micah Parsons go. They have two first round draft picks from the Packers. Ship those to the Cleveland Browns for Miles Garrett. Myles Garrett is 29 years old, in his prime, the best defensive player in football, under contract for the next five years, and he's from Arlington, Texas. He played high school football five minutes from the stadium. Easy fix for both sides. The bonus, the Cleveland Browns are going nowhere. They're not going anywhere this year, they're not going anywhere next year. You get a lot of value for Myles Garrett. You get draft picks, which you've already piled a few with that other trade they made during the draft, and you open up a lot of cap room for your future.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but the Browns don't have anything to go and watch. And if I'm running a team, we're in the entertainment business as well. I want you to have something that you're going to go watch. If you get rid of the only thing worth watching, then I wonder and owners, it's. Are people showing up to witness my product? Like, that's when you. That's when it really hurts. When these owners are like, nobody's showing up. They want that home revenue, they want concessions, they want season tickets, parking, all of that. And if there'd be no reason to show up unless you then said, we're going to start Shador Sanders and you're going to have people maybe showing up out of curiosity.

[Marv]

Yeah, Paulie, but Miles Garrett is Mike Trout five years ago with the Anaheim Angels. With the LA Angels, you had this guy who's one of the first ballot hall of Famer playing irrelevant baseball and you had a chance to trade him. The Angels could have traded Mike Trout five, six years ago and gotten a haul, and they didn't. And his Career is going to be wasted. And I'm not saying do it as a favor to Miles Garrett, but it the Cowboys, it would make a ton of sense. They don't need draft picks. They need a guy now.

[Dan Patrick]

But if you're the Cleveland Browns, would you trade the best defensive player, a future hall of Famer for two first round draft picks?

[Marv]

I probably would because we're not doing anything with him. Yesterday was a microcosm of the Browns. One good guy playing Joe Thomas. Asked Joe Thomas about his time with the Browns. It was first ballot wasted.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but Miles Garrett probably could have played for somebody else. He chose to stay with the Cleveland Browns.

[Marv]

It's his own fault. He didn't. He tried to force a trade, then took the big contract. Yes, but I'm just saying right now, and I'm sure there's cap issues. I were the Browns, I would say like, look, he's max value still at 29 years old.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But if you think you're close, then.

[Marv]

You keep him that they're not even close to close.

[Dan Patrick]

I.

[Covino]

Well, they don't think they're close.

[Dan Patrick]

You can't, I don't know. They're at some point going to go to Shador Sanders and you know, but I, but I, as I said when we started the year, I would have played Flacco for the first month. And then you got to see what you have in these two draft picks. And then because you do have those first round picks, Dylan Gabriel is sort of to a tongue of ioloa light. Like it's, you know, left handed, not a strong arm. Does get the ball out quick, quick reads. They're all short passes. And then let's see if Shador Sanders can play. I mean, everybody seems to be clamoring for Shador Sanders now. He was injured. I think he was third quarterback behind Bailey Zappy. But maybe he gets an opportunity and then you find out we have a quarterback or we don't have a quarterback and you still have the desean Watson situation. Is he going to be able to play sometime later in the season? But I don't know if they. The Browns already helped out the Bengals with Joe Flacco. You want to help out the Cowboys with Miles Garrett?

[Marv]

I would want to help out the Cowboys because they're not in the AFC and they're probably going to screw it up anyway. But the Browns right now have the fourth pick of the draft. They have Jacksonville's pick which is 20. You could snag the other draft pick from the Cowboys and now you're building a roster around Shador.

[Dan Patrick]

Those first round picks are going to be late in the first round. If you give them Miles Garrett.

[Marv]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Now they're not as valuable.

[Marv]

You do open up about a zillion dollars of cap room. I don't know, I just think it's. If the Browns are going nowhere, I'll bet you if the Angels had a do over six years ago, they would have traded Mike Trapp.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, we talked about that.

[Marv]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

I said you should have traded Shohei Ohtani because he wasn't going to stay with the Angels. Try to get something there, but, you know, Mike Trout's going to be one of those. Wait, Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani played on the same team? Yeah, you know, 20 years from now? Yeah, they played on the same team. How many World Series did they. They didn't even get to the playoffs. All right, one hour in the books, two more to go. We'll update the poll results. We'll talk to Bill Cower. What would Coach Cower be saying, thinking, doing today with that Steelers defense that is very suspect right now? We'll talk to him about that. Stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. Operator Tyler, sitting by, more of your phone calls, as we always do every Monday. Best and worst of the weekend. Todd's here, Seaton's here, Marv Paulie, yours truly. Hour two on this Monday, right after this.

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Kind of like Robin Hood, except for the part where he steals from the rich and gives to the poor. I'm not that generous.

[Covino]

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So we're sitting like, oh God, what do we do? What do we do?

[Dan Patrick]

That was dumb. People, do not follow my example.

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Hey, I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet Stand. I have a new podcast called what What Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture. Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me to talk about navigating this high speed rollercoaster we call reality. Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are We Even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

This is an iHeart podcast.