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But we made it to a Friday, a meet Friday at that. And Fritz, he looks a little holier than he did the day before. I do. I feel like a glow. That's what one of the guys said to me. Cameraman Eric Week said there was a glow about me. Great. It's glad to have you back. Everybody's excited, right? Oh, buddy. It's a happy, healthy new year. Let's get it going. Stat of the day, brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. First hour brought to you by Mako. Most cars on the road could use a little tlc. Mako brings your car back to life. Affordable paint jobs, light collision repairs. Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako. Morale is high because it's a meat Friday and it's a king's Hawaiian meat Friday. Chef Greg is in town. And that means high end sliders. We have the end around slider. We have the safety blitz slider. We have the flea flicker slider, the rpo slider, and the hail Mary Caesar salad. Who has it better than we do? Nobody. Yeah, I'm just looking. These are really elaborate sliders. Like, you have maple bourbon pork tenderloin sliders, grilled lemon herb chicken sliders. You have ham and cheddar marbleized egg sliders. You have smoked turkey and pesto sliders, and then you have your Caesar salad. Yeah. Yes, Paulie, fantastic for tailgating. One hand on your slider, one hand on your drink. Yes. Todd, is there a rule in place for, like, having one of every one of those? I'm just trying to figure out. You know, sometimes we like to watch each other eat and tabulate what we're doing. Well, you did miss yesterday, so only. Yeah, I'm sorry, Todd. It was a high holy day. I had, like a. I didn't go out on my yacht or something like that. I was, like, sitting home being miserable, not eating anything. That's your choice. If anything, I should eat more today because I couldn't eat for 24 hours yesterday. Tigers beat the Guardians as they advance. The Cubs over the Padres. They advance. And the Yankees blank the socks. They all advance. It was fun yesterday. He had quality baseball during the day, at night and then big weekend. Cubs, Brewers, Yankees, Blue Jays, Dodgers, Phillies, Tigers and the Mariners. And then, oh, by the way, the Niners, eight and a half point underdogs, beat the Rams in Los Angeles in overtime. And the biggest play of the game in overtime, the Rams go for it on fourth and one. And this is how it sounded. Fourth down and one for the Rams. Niners lead by three. A chance to win it with a stop here in overtime. Stafford gets under center at the 11 yard line. He takes it, he turns, he gives the Kyron Williams, he gets packed. I think he's short, Tim. I think he's short. And the 49ers stored the field. It is all over. The 49ers have won it in overtime here in LA. That's courtesy of KNBR, the Niners radio network. I get the call, I'm fine with the call. And you should be able to get one yard. Kyron Williams, he giveth, he taketh away. Also had a fumble in there as well. Here is Sean McVeigh on that fourth down call in overtime. It's a bad call. It's a bad call by me. Thought about maybe trying to draw him off sides. I took one, they took the other and it was a poor decision by me right there. But you know, you give the Niners credit. They made enough plays to be able to win the football game. We had plenty of chances throughout this game. You know, we stayed in it, we fought, we battled. But I'm pretty sick right now. I'm sick of the spot that I put our group in to end the game. But hey, these are the tough beats that you got to be able to learn from and move forward and that's what we're going to do. Yeah, I didn't like the call. It wasn't very creative. Now they can't do it, you know, a tush push with Stafford in there. But I was a little bit surprised because Sean is such a great offensive minded head coach. But give the Niners credit. It wasn't a question of who they had, but who they didn't have in that game. But that's the wounded animal and they were certainly that last night. You know, they stumbled into Brock Purdy and they're stumbling into Mac Jones. Give him credit, Mac Jones. When, you know, we realized that Brock Purdy wasn't going to be able to play a Couple of weeks ago, I said, they're not going to lose much. Mac Jones is good. You just don't want to believe it because what happened in New England when he had an offensive coordinator, they made the playoffs and he was a Pro bowl quarterback. After that, I think he was dealt a bad hand. I think you had, you know, mixed emotions, opinions on him as your franchise quarterback. The Niners were interested in him going into the draft, and they decided that they weren't going to take him. They went all in on Trey Lance, but they were interested in Mac Jones and now they got Mac Jones and he's played well. I couldn't help but think of the Bengals when I'm watching Mac Jones because they got somebody who has played at a pretty high level and he's your backup. You didn't spend a lot of money. And then you have the Bengals with Jake Browning. Now, I'm not saying that Mac Jones is the second coming of Joe Burrow, but if you have those weapons and you have an experienced quarterback, you. You might salvage something here. You know, this is the difference of the Niners with all their injuries. They're 4 and 1 and the Bengals are 2 and 2. But it feels like a shaky, shaky 2 and 2 with Jake Browning. Alrighty. 8, 7, 7, 3, DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @dp show Come up with a poll question. Got our play of the day Stat of the day. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, CC Sabathia, hall of Famer will join us. He'll recap the baseball and then he'll preview the weekend matchups as well. He'll join us in an hour. Kurt Warner will stop by. He'll preview the games coming up this weekend and recap what we saw last night between these two teams. I had Christian McCaffrey as the offensive player of the year. Puka Nukua is the leading candidate right now according to DraftKings, and followed by Christian McCaffrey. Now, McCaffrey didn't get a lot of yards running, but you still want to go to him. You still want to be able to control the clock. He had 22 carries. He had eight catches. That's the difference there. But Puka Nukua, he had 10 catches. Now, they held him under a hundred yards, but he's plus 275. Then it's McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, Bijan Robinson and James Cook. That's for the offensive player of the year. Seaton, what's the poll question? To start out, hour one. Oh, by the way, Charlie Sheen will join us. And this is an interview that we taped two days ago, and that'll be coming up in a little more than an hour from now. The last time I spoke to him was 14 years ago, February of 2011. Little. A little under 14 years ago. And we. We touched on a variety of things. He's got a documentary, he's got a book out. And as you might expect, Charlie, when we spoke 14 years ago, sounded and looked a whole lot different. And he didn't remember the interview that we did or the interviews that we did. It was back to back to back. And that's what started this crazy, crazy avalanche in his life. So we will take a trip down memory lane as I try to refresh his memory of what exactly we talked about 14 years ago. All right, Seaton, I told you, though, when we had. We're getting ready. And I go, I don't know if he's going to remember this. And he didn't. But we'll bring. We'll bring you that interview we did, about 14 or 15 minutes start to finish. You'll be able to hear everything. We didn't. We didn't take anything out. All right, Seaton, poll question. It'd rather be a Hall of Fame pitcher or hall of Fame quarterback? Quarterback. No question. Yeah. Quarterback. Quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. Is that because of the popularity of the NFL? Yeah. Or the sort of diminishing of starting pitching? Well, if this was in the 60s, 70s, 80s, then I would want to be a pitcher. But quarterbacks, now, that's royalty. Yeah. You go into the hall of Fame. If I said you could be Kurt Warner or CC Sabathia, I mean, that's the question, isn't it? Yeah. Both played on really good teams. High level hall of Famers. Big and big moments, but both hall of Famers. Yes, Todd. But in general, if you have a shaky or a bad game in football, you only have a certain amount of opportunities. In baseball, you got that many more outings to clean it up and prove yourself. You know, for me, that alone, being able to get out there a lot more times than 17, and if you're lucky, one or two more times than that. I would like to be able to get the ball back soon as possible if I screwed up. Thank you, Todd. Yeah. I just think quarterbacks are held in higher esteem certainly, you know, the last, you know, five years maybe. Yeah. Because once. Once Kershaw goes and Verlander goes, Max goes. I mean, that's kind of it, you know, Maybe skiing kind of holds on there. And school is best pitcher in baseball. Although the Yankees trotted out Schlitter last night and he was spectacular. You know, a big time moment like that and these, these two pitchers, both of them look like, you know, that they were still in high school but playing at a very high level. And, you know, that's a big time moment for, you know, the Yankees, when you get a pitcher doing something that, well, normally isn't done in the postseason. And in the history of the Yankees franchise, Cam Schlitter struck out 12, allowed five hits, eight shutout innings, and he's the first pitcher in postseason history to throw at least eight shutout innings, 12 or more strikeouts and no walks. Tarek Skubal was the only other pitcher this season to do that, and he's the best pitcher in the game. But a lot of fun stuff. There were a couple of calls in the Cubs Padres game that will probably be used in the off season when the commissioner is presenting the automated balls and strikes because there were a couple of bad calls that went against the Padres and the Padres went all in. They traded away, you know, prospects, they went all in. And man Tatis pick up a white courtesy phone. That was embarrassing, uninspired. It was like he struck out three times. Machado mean you, you. They went all in and you got nothing to show for it. The potential for fun was there. Cubs, you know, that was. They, they got a good team. They escaped. And now you have the matchup with Craig Counsel, the Cubs manager, former brewers manager. I love it. The Yankees with the Blue Jays. America is going to get introduced to the Blue Jays. They're going to be like, oh, okay, they got a nice team here. Red Sox. I didn't. I thought they would make the playoffs this year. They really didn't have much. They didn't spend a lot. Bregman, good, good pickup. But they didn't really, I don't know, there was nothing really there offensively for them. They kind of scratched out something there. You know, the Dodgers, we, we expect the Dodgers to be great. That matchup, that's the matchup you want in the nlcs, but you got it here with the DS between these two. And that'll be a whole lot of fun. Whole lot of fun. Yeah. Paulie. Dan, since you're talking baseball, I would like to thank you for your assistance last night. Oh, yeah. Little side topic. You and I had a little text thing going on last night and you were escorting me through the Cubs game. In the tense moments would be a Fair way to say it. You especially in the ninth, you said never easy for the Cubs. But what you didn't say in your text me was you got him. You didn't say you got him. Yeah, because you can't say you got him. You're gonna win. You'll be fine. Yes, it was, it was nice to have a shoulder, but I didn't know if you would be fine. Oh, neither did I. That's why I was like, you know, you know, Eddie Vetter I think's nervous here. Chris Chelos is nervous here. But I, I love that atmosphere. I, I Wrigley is a wonderful atmosphere jumping. But the Cubs, they got, got some young talent there. It was fun. It was fun. It, you know, that tension, that's what you want. It's go home winner, go home. And, and I love the three games. I mean it may not seem fair. You play 162 games and it comes down to a three game series. I, I understand it but you know, do your damage during the regular season, then you don't have to worry about a three game series. Yes, Marvin. No, no, no, no. Be grateful you got a three game series because if this was 40 years ago, I know only four teams out of the entire major leagues even made it to the playoffs. Just the ALCS and the nlcs. So be grateful that you got in. Seon, what are we, what are we going to go with? Hour one, we're going to go with. Would you rather be a Hall of Fame pitcher? A Hall of Fame quarterback? We also have the most infamous interview in show history. Oh man. I'm trying to keep it this era of the Dan Patrick show era. You know what, we'll take a break because Paulie's really good at this. Because I forget these things. Polly will say, well, there's that and that and that and that. I'll go, oh, okay. Some of them I forget, some of them I want to forget. But for the most part there's been some that have stood out. The audience is really good at this as well to remind us of certain moments in show history. And we'll run down the list of candidates of best. Now, how are you phrasing that, Seaton? Are you saying best interviews? No, I think most infamous. Oh, info infamous. Throw the M into infamous. Okay, but it's not infamous, it's infamous. Yeah. I n F a M O U S infamous. Infinite. Yeah, yeah, you got that, Todd? I do. The three H's come to mind, but I won't say specific. No, no, hold on. Hold on. I'm not going to say names. Okay, but you do blurt out things when I tell you. Don't. I was not planning on saying specific names. Okay. Just triple H. That's all I'll say. Okay, let' we're gonna hold on here. Okay. Charlie Sheen in an hour. CC Sabathia at the top of next hour. And then Kurt Warner will join us in the final hour of the program. A lot of things to get to. Glad you're part of the program. Whether you're watching, listening or watching and listening. We'll take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod, pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day. 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Oh, Tanya Harding is a legendary interview, but it feels like a different version of the show. That's true. Like, somebody else also just referred. This one goes way back. But our friends in Nebraska just said the Mickey Rivers interviews will forever be just the best he got. He was going through a toll booth, and he's the former Yankee center fielder, and he gets pulled over because he's talking on his cell phone while going through a toll booth. And then he's trying to say that he's talking to Mr. Steinbrenner. And. And so we're live on the radio and he's telling the police officer, hey, I'm on the phone with George Steinbrenner. And he was on the phone with me live on the radio. And I could only pick out one out of every four words with Mickey because he talks so fast. And that one, that. That one was. Oh, that's old school. That was entertaining. That was the best. That was entertaining. And I even said to him, I said, mickey, what. What are you doing? And he said that, you know, he got pulled over because he was on his cell phone. And I said, but you said you were talking to George Steinbrenner. And he said, yeah, I'm trying to get out of a ticket. Yes. Todd, I don't know how you did it. He was impossible to understand. I don't even know how you picked up one out of every six or seven words. That was just beyond garbled. Yes. Do you have a little bit of Mickey Rivers, Marvin? You see, the team is going to be a land. So, you know, you just want to get one more be this. My favorite part is the laugh. It's a good joke. Like, he told something really funny. And I didn't understand one word of it, but he did. He's like, it's the best. Give it to me one more time. Here's Mickey Rivers, former Major League League baseball player. If you see the team, it's going to be a land. So, you know, you don't want to get one more be this. I have no idea. I got a couple of words at the beginning, and I don't have any of the words after that. Whitey Herzog was not a good interview. I don't want to talk to you anymore. That was not good. Yeah. Paulie. Whitey Herzog was a former Cardinal manager during a tough time for the Cardinals. And they pitched a book to us that he had, and they said he's willing to talk about all the different things, including the cocaine issues that the Cardinals had in the early 80s. They suggested that as one of the topics. You doing your job. Asked about it. He got very upset. And they said, I don't want to talk to you, and hung up. Yeah, they gave me bullet points. Bullet points. They said, hey, here's some things that he wants to talk about. Great. And I'm thinking, wait, he wants to talk about cocaine with some of his former players? Okay, sure. We'll have him on. And the interview is not going well. And then all of a sudden I go, hey, well, what about the cocaine use of your players? Like, that's going to be the go to. And now he's going to really expound upon this. And then that's when he didn't want to talk to me. And I thought. I said, fritz, you get a hold of the book people. It was in the press release in the book. Notes that come, like in the flap of the book for you to make sure you cover those things. It was insane. How about when Commissioner Stern was scolding me? Who, the palaver? Yeah, the palaver. Yeah. Paulie. That was the Phoenix Suns playoff series where guys went off the bench, but they didn't get in a fight. Amari Stoudemire. Yeah. And you were saying, commissioner, don't you have the power to overrule the rule and let these guys play for the sake of competitiveness? And he goes, oh, I see. And then it's. It went south. Yeah. Because these guys, all, they. They were beating up Steve Nash, the spurs were roughing him up, and he got knocked into the scores table. Amari Stoudemire got up off the bench, and then he got suspended. And I. I know it's a rule, but I thought, you know what? He wasn't engaging. He didn't throw any punches, but he got out of a certain area, therefore, he was going to be suspended. Yes, Commissioner. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, I see. No, no. He put me in my place. Let me write that down. Yeah. Oh, dear. That's when I knew I was in trouble. Oh. Remember after the show, we all had to go upstairs. That's not what you want to do at espn. Well, that's when you're finding out if management was actually listening, because all of a sudden, you had people outside of the radio booth at the Mothership, and they're all, like, looking in, like, like, what is going on in there? And I came out, and they're like, oh, my God, that was great radio. I go, was, yeah, but you got to go upstairs after the show. Management wants to talk to you. Like, oh, boy. Yes. How about the very outspoken Kyler Murray during Super bowl week? That was a good time. That was certainly infamous. Yeah, that's one of those. Where I went, is, is this happening? This is happening. Right, Right. We should be able to put five on there. Satan. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Now, for this era of the show, I think we have room for four, actually. So we're gonna go with Charlie Sheen, Matt Harvey, and Kyler Murray. We'll see if there's other ones that add it. Okay. Make the list. All right. A couple of phone calls in here. Aiden in Utah leads us off. Hi, Aiden. Good morning. Welcome back. Good morning. For me? Yeah. Kyler Murray and Howard Stern's butt cheese are the two. They always come to mind. Are you talking about infamous? I don't know if that one counts, but it is because that was on SportsCenter when you, when you had, you know, one of Howard Stern's guys call in. That's when I thought I was interviewing Steve Bartman. But that, that one doesn't count because that. That stands alone with SportsCenter. Yeah. This is incredibly off topic, but I've been trying to call in the last couple of days to talk to you about it. Your thing with Russell Wilson and, and if you reverse his career, he had even a better career or identical to Matthew Staffords. And to me, that just doesn't work. Right. Because if you will discard the Giants, the Giants doesn't count. But he goes to Pittsburgh, you play six games, you go to the playoffs, you have a good supporting catch, you have a great defense, you have great receivers, and you don't get anything done, you go to Denver and you pretty much booted out of there before you can even start. And then by the time you get to Seattle and you finally have a good defense and a good. You're. You're carried through super bowl by the defense. And it's just. Stafford won in Detroit with a terrible supporting cast. He didn't have enough to get it done. He didn't win anything, but he was phenomenal. He was. I mean, he was an elite quarterback in Detroit. I don't feel like Wilson has ever been superb anywhere else besides Seattle with the sporting cast. Did Russ ever have Calvin Johnson? Okay, listen, that's a no. Stafford, if he doesn't win the super bowl, he's not a Hall of Famer, I don't think. I mean, he was great. He played hard, he played hurt. He was the reason why you watch the Lions. But there's a lot of hatred for Russell Wilson. I mean, if Russ got hurt three years ago and didn't play in Denver and didn't play in Pittsburgh and didn't play in New York, is he a Hall of Famer? And the answer is yes, that he's. Not only is he a Hall of Famer, he's got what if. What a shame. What if. Yes, I. He was a whole lot better in Seattle than people are giving him credit for. The Legion of Boom went away when Russ was 27. So five through 10, they didn't have a good defense. They still made the playoffs one year. He threw 40 touchdown passes. He never had a marquee receiver like where you went. That guy's going to the hall of Fame. Doug Baldwin, yes, he. But more than anything, the. The thing that really hurt Russ, like, I mean, just as much as his play if not even more. So is the whole let Russ Cook era people being like, when are you going to get the training wheels off of this guy? Let him cook. Let him play. Let him play. Let him cook. And then they did, and he was terrible. And that was about like, oh, I guess you guys knew what you were doing. You knew exactly how to use them. And we shouldn't have been doing all this. That's the problem. But he did have a couple of seasons over 35 touchdown passes. Yeah, Paulie, his last five years in Seattle, he threw 34 touchdowns, 35 touchdowns, 31, 40 and 25. He never threw more than 13 interceptions. Yes, Marvin. So was he already cooking, though, or. So what was the whole let him cook thing then? If he was already throwing all these touchdown passes, how much more were we supposed to be letting him cook? Well, that was a bad phrase to use. That's what killed him. Yes. Yes. Because we were waiting to see Magic. We were waiting to see Peyton, we were waiting to see Drew Brees. If he was already, why did people want him to cook? Yes, Marvin. Yeah, the Seaton's point about the what if factor, I think that's more important to get in the hall of Fame nowadays because you've seen it with guys like Terrell Davis and Sterling Sharp. If you stop at a certain point because of injury or you retire early, it gives you a better chance to go into the hall of Fame instead of having these uneventful years like Russ is having Jake in Buffalo. Hi, Jake. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan. I was gonna talk about a sneaky, great interview moment of the time when Peter King got pulled over and got a ticket for being on the phone with. During an interview. But we can talk about that another day, because today I'm just here to honor and talk about Qualcomm. All right, thank you, Jake. How is Qualcomm not a sponsor on this show? Pending. They should be a sponsor on this show. Yes, Paulie. Another one that should make the list was suggested by a couple listeners, Scotty Pippen, around the last dance about four years ago. I'm not going to paraphrase. What Mr. Pippen had to say about Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan you can go back and listen to. But it was scorched earth and it was a big topic, especially in Chicago. But elsewhere, that's. That's where he was doing an interview and he, you know, if you talk about LeBron and Michael, then everybody picks up on it, which. Okay, you know, Scotty, it. You know, it would depend on each week or each month. And he would shift. He'd be like, oh, MJ was the greatest. And it'd be like, Scotty says that LeBron's better than Michael. Oh, my gosh. Clickbait. And then I. He said something about Phil Jackson and he. That he wanted, you know, a white guy, Tony KU coach to hit a game winning shot and put Scotty on the bench. And I said, wait a minute, hold on. Here's. That's. That's the interview that. That's. I said, get. Get Scotty on. And he doubled down on it, basically calling Phil Jackson a racist. And I thought, do you realize what you're doing, what you're saying? And he said, yes. I thought, wow, yes. Marv, there was a part in the interview where he got testy with you and asked you if you spoke English. I was like, dp's better than me. You were professional after he said that. And I didn't know why he was angry at me because he's the one that created the scenario where I was going to be asking these questions. Yeah. Paulie Scotty reference about being racial, that he was not playing, so forth. And you said by saying it's a racial move, then you're calling Phil Jackson a racist. Scottie Pippen said, I don't have a problem with that. And you followed up saying, do you think Phil was. And he said, oh, yes. You gave multiple chances to backpedal. Yeah, I was. I was trying to have him understand the magnitude of what he was saying, and he didn't understand it. And I thought, okay, I'm gonna try it again. And then I tried it again, and he said the same thing. And I thought, I don't give a damn what he thinks of LeBron and Michael Jordan, but I do care what he thinks about Phil Jackson. That, to me, was alarming. Tommy in Florida. Hi, Tommy. What's on your mind? Hey, I six foot, 187, jacked. Just want to say hi to Fritzi. That pass hole shirts fantastic. And you're the best interview by far is the Kyler Murray one. I had to watch that like six times. I thought, no one's going to draft this guy. And Dan, how you kept it together during that, I have no idea. That was the most bizarre interview I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah. And I. I kept thinking, okay, does he realize what he's doing to himself? Because I was told after that that there were teams that were like, teams were passing the interview around because they asked for A copy of it. And they wanted to let you know, management know, GMs know, hey, if we're interested in this guy or trading up for this guy, let's reconsider this. And there were three teams that I was told did this. He just sat there, and I was given a hedge. Seaton's Kyler Murray. And this is where we weren't sure. Was he going to play baseball? Was he going to play football? That was the topic. His dad was in the room. We're in Atlanta, super bowl week. He's promoting Gatorade. I'm like, all right, you know, product placement. Bring your Gatorade down, and I'm gonna throw some softball pitches to you. And all of a sudden, he didn't talk. I go, like, wait, what's. What's going on here? What? And I. And I couldn't. I wasn't going to move on. I thought, you know what? You're not going to embarrass me. I don't work for Gatorade. They don't sponsor this show. I don't care if you look silly. But promoting Gatorade, but you're here, and I'm going to ask you questions. It is, you know, quid pro quo. You get a product, you get to say something about it. I get to ask you questions. That's how it works. And I was told prior to the draft that he wasn't going to play baseball because he was going to be the number one pick in the draft. But the mystery. I didn't have the answer. And I told him that. Now his dad is 100ft away in this spacious room. I start interviewing his dad across the room because he kept looking at his dad to see what he could say or not say. So I finally started interviewing his dad a hundred feet away. It was one of those where I got. I got done with it. I was. I was angry, man. Yeah, you were pissed. I was like, you gotta be kidding me. Were mad. And I think some people lost jobs. At least one person lost a job as a part of that. Not on my staff, but, no, it be hard. I can't fire anybody. But that was one of those where I go, how does this happen now? I immediately turned to Fritzy because Fritzy does the great job of booking everybody. Even with Matt Harvey, with Qualcomm. And I always go to Fritzi, I'm like, what the hell happened? And Fritz, he goes, nobody told me that Matt Harvey only wanted to talk about Qualcomm. I was not told that. Don't Bring up baseball with Kyler Murray. Now, occasionally, we'll get people who want to know the questions. And I don't want to. I don't want to give you questions. I'll give you topics that I'm going to talk about. And, you know, I've had people say we need each. Each question. And Paulie's like that. We won't have them on. That's not in. That's not how you interview. You know, I'm not going to give you the answers, and then I'm going to, you know, ask the question. I'll give you topics, but I'm not giving you questions, because that's the element of the interview. Yes, John, the agent, publicist, you know, team PR person, whoever we're dealing with, for a particular guest, you got to at least be upfront and give us the opportunity to talk about it. Just want to let you guys know he's not going to talk about A, B, C, and D. And then we. At least we have the right to say, is it worth having this person on if these are topics we can't get into? Usually it's not, because those are the juicy things to get into. But don't. Just make sure. Make believe everything's fine. And then on the air, live, all of a sudden, you're not going to say anything. But we've had somebody now, Barry Bonds, he had this moment in spring training where he's going to change his reputation. And I said to Fritzi, I said, I see where Barry Bonds is. You know, wants to be a nice guy. And I go, let's book him. Right before I start the interview, Paulie is talking to the PR guy, and the PR guy goes, barry just wants to talk about his home security system business. I go, what? And. And so Polly goes, well, he's got to talk baseball now. He just wants to talk about home security system. I said, no, we're not doing it. We're not doing it. Get out of here. But you. You. There are times when you have people who suggest, now this has happened a couple of times. PR people will go, hey, don't bring up. And I'll go, wait, what? Now, I'm not gonna give out the name, but there was a PR person, and it was like, hey, whatever you do, he doesn't want to talk about. I'll go, wait, what about that? We didn't even know that that was a thing. We had no idea that that was even a thing. What happened there? Now I want to know. Yes, Paulie, it was a musician. I'm not gonna say, well, no, we can't. I don't want to go anywhere with this. Okay. No, no, we. I don't want to do that. He's bounced back. I didn't say what kind of music. I don't. Yes, Todd. And so we don't get cute right before the interview and say, oh, by the way, don't ask about ABC and dc. You gotta let us know days in advance. And then we have an opportunity to say, you know what? Then we're just not gonna do it. How about we take a break? We'll take a break. Our play of the day is up next. 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I just asked ChatGPT what it thought of that inter. And this just shows you how AI isn't perfect yet. It said that Harvey was on the show to promote a condition called overactive bladder in men. Love the show, Dan. Thank you. Thank you, Mason. When I asked him about his injury and he said, I'm here only to talk about Qualcomm, If I could have killed Fritzi with a look, I would have been a mass murderer. Because I went, how is this happening? This is a guy who was with the Mets, so you're in the media capital of the world. He had elbow or shoulder issues. And I thought, okay, he's coming on. He's got a product. I gotta ask him a couple of baseball questions. And he said, oh, I talked about that yesterday like you didn't talk to me. And that's when he wanted to talk about Qualcomm. Here's a little portion of Matt Harvey. I did all those answers yesterday, and, you know, maybe at the appropriate time, we can we can talk a little bit more about that? But. But obviously, you know, today is about Qualcomm. Obviously. What a great pitch, man. Yeah. The appropriate time. You were doing a national sports talk show interview right now. Not only at the appropriate time. The injury was just announced the night before. Yes, the announcement was just made, but he had talked to the beat writers and then he felt like he had, you know, done his due diligence. Here I talk about that. You know, now I'm moving on and obviously I'm here to talk about Qualcomm. Yeah, Paul, the minute that show is over, the PR person who set it up, who Fritz and I have known for a long time, goes, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. How do we fix this? And we said, have him call back tomorrow. And there was a lot of back and forth over the next 12 hours. It was wild. Yes, Todd, you stayed professional, but how much did you want to say? Matt, don't you think it would be odd to have you on the show, on a sports talk show and only talk about Qualcomm and do an infomercial with you and not talk at all about baseball or that you're a major league pitcher that's dealing with arm injury? Don't you think that would be odd of us to have you on, to just do that? I had somebody earlier in the week who wanted to come on and only talk about one thing. It had nothing to do with the sport that they're associated with. And I said, no, I, I'm not having a five minute infomercial. I'm just, I'm not going to do that to my audience. And I even went back to the person said, you got to talk about your sport. Yeah, but not, not this time. I go, there's not another time that's not happening. But it's live. You know, 99.9 of the interviews we do are live. Because I want that feeling. As an interviewer, I want that feeling. And that sometimes you get that. Sometimes you get what you asked for. You wanted it live. You got Qualcomm. Mike in Madison. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today? Hey, thanks, Dan. First time, long time. Six foot sausage, off fueled 225. I think you guys have done a great job narrowing down about the best sound interviews, but I got to go to one that really showcases your breadth of interviewing. And it's when you interviewed Ray Mabus from the Secretary of the Navy. Like, I go back to that one a lot and just watch it because it's just so great. He's. He's so humble. You're so great. You ask him some fun questions like, we name a boat after us when you're done. It's just a great interview. Well, thank you, Mike. He was such a gentleman. He came in studio and, you know, he allowed us to have fun. Carlos in El Paso. Hi, Carlos. Hey, DP 64225. Hey, Dupi. So the first interview that comes to mind when you guys talk about the most infamous interview is the Mike Tyson interview where he just wouldn't stop talking about his weed farm. I've gone back to it so many times over the years. Thanks. All right. Thank you, Carlos. He was at his kitchen table eating cereal and talking about his pot farm or his pot growing business and giggling like you. It's, it's one or the other. With Mike, it's either he doesn't say anything or he can't stop talking. Yes, Todd. And he can't seem to understand why people would want to talk to him about his boxing career as opposed to his love of pigeons or whatever else he's doing on his farm. It seems insane to me. I interviewed him in 1986. That was the first time. And do you think he's the tough interview now? Back then he wasn't worldly at all, and he would have talked about his pigeons gladly. Talked about his pigeons? Yes. He was on some show. I saw some clip. He told one reporting, I feel like, you know, punching you in the face. He's like saying this to the interview, like threatening him because he didn't like the line of question. Oh, you're never quite sure because I've had Mike on recently and I didn't think it went well at all. 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