Hour 1 – March Madness Is Coming, Ross Tucker

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 1 – March Madness Is Coming, Ross Tucker

Date: March 3, 2026
Host: Dan Patrick (with Paulie, Seaton, Ben M., Marvin, and Todd/Fritzy)
Notable Guest: Ross Tucker

Episode Overview

This episode kicks off with the crew’s comic recounting of a dramatic small fire in the studio, courtesy of some misplaced incense, and celebrates their “hero” firefighter colleague, Erik “the Big German” Jones. Dan and the Danettes have fun spinning the incident into fodder for sports talk and media headlines.
The bulk of the episode pivots to early March Madness hype, focusing on college basketball’s most touted prospects, famous father-son player lineages, and shifting trends in NCAA hoops.
The hour features a meaty segment with former NFL lineman and analyst Ross Tucker, who adds humor and depth on topics from arm length at the NFL Draft Combine, to quarterback market musings, and why the logic of avoiding the Jets in the draft is flawed.
Listener calls close the hour, featuring puns, show pitches, and a lively chat about college sports traditions.

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Detailed Breakdown & Highlights

1. The Great Studio Fire—Comedy & Headlines

• The show opens with a lighthearted debrief of a fire incident caused by Dan leaving incense burning ([01:46-05:36]).
• Memorable Quote:
  • “Women and children first. And Todd, your 40 yard dash time was pretty impressive yesterday.” – Dan Patrick ([01:46])
  • “If President Trump invites him to the White House and gets him, you know, a medal of freedom, maybe fire prevention week…” – Dan Patrick on “the Big German” ([05:13])
• The fire story made it to TMZ, European tabloids, and prompted jokes about movie rights (with Adam Sandler or Tom Hanks, naturally).
• The Big German (Erik Jones) gets hyped as America’s new favorite firefighter ([05:05]).
• Running Joke: Dan and the Danettes riff on dramatic reenactments, medals of freedom, and mock comparisons to Sully Sullenberger’s heroics ([21:15-21:42]).

2. March Madness Hype & College Basketball Trends

• Dan notes that while the NCAA season is well underway, now is when wider attention focuses ([06:00–09:00]).
• Discussion on famous sports families and the “gene trust”—from the ‘Boozer twins’ at Duke to the Currys, Mannings, Griffeys, etc.
• “You can trust the… genes there, but you know, Steph and Seth Curry and Dell Curry, Klay Thompson, Michael Thompson, Joe Kim Noah and Yannick Noah, Kobe and Joe Bryant, Peyton, Archie and Eli Manning…” – Dan Patrick ([06:50])
• Heavy focus on Cameron Boozer (Duke freshman), odds for the 2026 NBA Draft, and Coach K’s effusive praise ([09:33]):
  • Coach K on Boozer:
    • “To me, it’s not close. This kid is so dependable, so poised and puts up amazing numbers…He’s had really as good a year as any freshman that has played here.” – Coach K (as quoted by Dan, [09:50])
• Stat of the Day: Arizona coach Tommy Lloyd passes 140 wins in 5 years, an NCAA record ([10:17]).
• Dan compares the annual college basketball landscape to a restaurant with a perpetually changing menu—critiquing the lack of player continuity:
  • “It’s not good for college basketball to not have a little bit of familiarity.” – Dan Patrick ([11:54])

3. Sports TV Personalities—Bracket Season & Coverage Critiques

• The crew forecasts imminent bracketology overload. Dan pokes fun at Charles Barkley’s sometimes limited college basketball expertise during Selection Sunday coverage—but says it’s still entertaining ([13:41–14:45]).
• Seaton poses the poll question:
  • “Who would you rather watch a game with—football with Ross Tucker, soccer with Roger Bennett, basketball with Reggie Miller?” ([14:45–15:18])
• Dan’s pick: Roger Bennett for soccer—“unique, fascinating voice...entertaining” ([14:52]).

4. NFL Talk and Ross (aka “Rod”) Tucker Interview

Timestamps: [21:44–38:39]

Name Gag & Guest Introduction

• Ongoing joke about Seaton misspelling Ross as “Rod” Tucker—Ross joins in, playing it up ([21:44–22:50]).

Life as a Prospect: The NFL Combine and Short Arms

• Ross tells stories about being overlooked for the Combine, bombing his Pro Day, and suffering from comically short arms—a new record beaten only this year by Carson Beck:
  • “My pro day goes so poorly that afterwards [the Eagles scout] won’t even make eye contact with me…” – Ross Tucker ([24:19])
  • “If I just had normal arms…I would have gotten more girls. It would have been incredible…” – Ross Tucker ([25:57])
• Technical talk: Arm length and offensive line play.
• Ross jokingly casts himself as a “male version of a T. Rex.” ([27:35])

QB Market, Free Agency, and the "Jets Avoidance" Myth

• Detailed explanation of the financial chess involved in veteran QB contracts (Tua, Kyler Murray, Malik Willis), how guaranteed money and strategic releases/trades work ([29:09–31:48]).
• Dan raises the theory that top college QBs are staying in school to avoid getting drafted by the Jets—Ross calls this “asinine”:
  • “If you know you’re going to be a top five pick in the NFL draft, you have to go…From a business standpoint, if you love college…we can have that conversation. From a strictly business perspective…I think it’s asinine…” – Ross Tucker ([33:17–34:08])
• Further discussion on how team context and NIL money affect draft strategies ([34:08–35:50]).

Running Backs, Value, and Draft Philosophy

• Dan asks why a team with a good running back (Jets/Breece Hall) wouldn’t double down by adding another (Jeremiah Love).
• Ross breaks down NFL “positional value” thinking: rookie contracts, cap space, and why premium draft picks rarely go to RBs now ([36:26–37:40]).

Fun Facts: Academic All-American

• Dan quizzes Ross about his time at Princeton and his GPA ([37:42–38:08]).
• The segment ends with more playful “Rod Tucker” jokes.

5. Interactive: Listener Calls & Show Pitches

Timestamps: [43:58–49:04]

• Fire Puns & T-shirt Ideas: Listeners riff off the studio fire (“Dan Patrick and his studio in Fuego,” [44:13]).
• Show Concept: “Sport Court”—Dan as a sports Judge Judy ([48:46]).
• Debate: Is Duke basketball truly a blue blood if only one coach has won championships? ([49:04])
• Multiple callers check in with NFL musings, fire puns, and more.

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Notable Quotes

• “Forget hot takes. The Dan Patrick Show had actual flames coming out of the studio.” – TMZ headline, read by Paulie ([03:57])
• “You would have an amazing time watching a football game with me.” – Ross Tucker ([21:56])
• “Every year it’s like, oh, and so what’s the menu? I don’t know. Who knows? But come on in, take a chance on it. It’s not good for college basketball to not have a little bit of familiarity.” – Dan Patrick ([11:54])
• “I mean, who do you think, who is going to have the number one pick next year? You think it’s going to be the Seahawks or the Eagles? Like, that’s not how it works.” – Ross Tucker, debunking "avoid the Jets" ([34:08])
• "It’s very hard to play professional football if you’re a male version of a T. Rex." – Ross Tucker ([27:35])

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Key Timestamps

• [01:46] – Fire cautionary tale and heroics
• [05:05] – “The Big German” and his newfound fame
• [06:00–09:00] – March Madness player storylines, Boozer family, Duke dominance
• [09:33–10:17] – Coach K on freshman star Cameron Boozer
• [10:17] – Stat of the Day: Arizona coach Tommy Lloyd’s UA record
• [14:45] – Sports-watching poll question
• [21:44] – Ross Tucker (Rod Tucker) interview begins
• [24:19] – Pro Day disaster and arm length lament
• [27:35] – Playing O-line with “T. Rex” arms
• [29:09–31:48] – QB market complexities and team finances
• [33:17–34:08] – Debunking Jets avoidance
• [36:26–37:40] – Draft philosophy: running backs and value
• [44:13] – Listener T-shirt & fire puns
• [48:46] – Show pitch: Sport Court (Judge Judy for sports takes)

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Tone & Style Notes

• Highly conversational, playful, and irreverent (classic Dan Patrick Show).
• Frequent inside jokes among the Danettes; quick-witted banter and regular sidesteps into light self-deprecation.
• Informative yet fun, with deep sports analysis woven seamlessly into gags and topical asides.

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Summary Takeaways

• The Dan Patrick Show balances comedic storytime (studio fire), media critique, and genuine insider sports knowledge.
• March Madness is coming—expect hype, but lament a lack of lasting college hoops stars.
• Ross Tucker delivers NFL and draft insights with charm and humility, reminding listeners of the unpredictable realities of pro sports careers and the bankers-behind-the-scenes decisions that shape teams’ futures.
• Listener segments are interactive and witty, adding levity and fresh fan perspectives.

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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Oh thoughts and prayers. Thank you. We made it traumatic time yesterday. My thanks to the big German. He is an certified firefighter and EMS and came to the rescue yesterday as I lit some incense and forgot to blow it out and we had flames, we had smoke, we had a fire alarm but everybody is okay and you know usually what happens. Women and children first. It was Fritzy. Women and children first. And Todd, your 40 yard dash time was pretty impressive yesterday.

[Ross Tucker]

I totally obliterated many previous record from

[Dan Patrick]

here to the parking lot Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. By the way, the big German said I'm gonna get you an incense burner. You're not going to be putting. I was putting incense into a candle holder and it burned down in their other stems from the incense that caught fire. And then we had smoke, and then we had fire. But everybody's okay. We survived. We learned a lesson yesterday. I thought it was a little overly dramatic to stop, drop, and roll that the big German said, and he came in with his axe. He was going to actually chop down my door. And I said, no, just turn the knob. Yes.

[Seaton]

I am trying to figure out how the incense started a candle fire. Like those things sound like while the incense lit the candle on fire. Candles are supposed to be on fire.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, no, the. I have a bunch of stems from previous incense. Like kindling. Yeah. So almost like a forest. And it's, you know, just chopped down with a bunch of, you know, trees in there.

[Seaton]

Those are the things that caught on fire.

[Dan Patrick]

They caught on fire. I see. Yes.

[Seaton]

Understood.

[Dan Patrick]

And I. I kind of joked and I said, did the morning shows pick this up? And Paulie said he was going to check, and then all of a sudden, I find out that Harvey Levin and tmz, they. They did a full report on this as well. They should have, because, you know, hall of fame broadcaster nearly perished yesterday. Paulie, do you have the headline from tmz?

[Paulie]

Of course I do. It's in my inbox every morning. TMZ sports, Fire in the hole, Studio up in smoke on air. The Dan Patrick show. Forget hot takes. The Dan Patrick show had actual flames coming out of the studio.

[Dan Patrick]

That's well said, and I appreciate that. But, Harvey, thank you for reaching out just to make sure everybody was okay. Yes. Todd, you also said we learned a

[Jason Smith]

lesson, which I thought was an interesting

[Dan Patrick]

choice of words, by the way. Well, it's kind of like you with the Broncos. It's we. Okay, right? Like we when. When we win the sports Emmy. It's not me.

[Ross Tucker]

Someone burns the place down. We, as a group, burnt it down. Even though you specifically.

[Dan Patrick]

We all take credit. We all take blame. Okay, thanks for clarification. Thank you. Yes. Yes.

[Paulie]

Paul, back to the TMZ piece. My favorite part of it in paragraph four. And this was tweeted out to millions of people, by the way, as the crew scrambled the big German ak, Erik Jones, behind the scenes staffer who Patrick revealed as a certified firefighter in ems, bolted into the equipment room to assess the situation.

[Dan Patrick]

He did. He bolted in. He was very calm.

[Paulie]

Is the big German right now the most famous firefighter in America right now? Breakout day.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know who his competition would be.

[Paulie]

That's the point.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I would say he's. He's pretty now If President Trump invites him to the White House and gets him, you know, a medal of freedom, maybe fire prevention week. Okay. Yeah. He brings Eric, German. Eric, the big German to the White House. Yes, Tom.

[Ross Tucker]

If a goalie can get it, then granted it was a great win over Canada. Why wouldn't the big Germans get it?

[Dan Patrick]

He, like, saved our lives. Yeah. Connor Hellebach didn't save lives. Big German saved lives yesterday. Oh, but thank you. Thank you for the thoughts and the prayers, flowers. There's wreaths out there, you know, that they put by the door. But everybody's good. And my thanks to the big German. He came in, came to the rescue. For over 40 years, Tire Rack's been helping customers find the right tires for how and what and where you drive ship fast and free, backed by free road hazard protection, convenient installation options like mobile tire installation, tire rack.com way Tire buying should be. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you. Download the app if you haven't done so with the NBC Sports Network and our radio affiliates, including iHeartradio, Fox Sports Radio. Get ready. College hoops is about to take over. Of course, they've been playing basketball for a few months now, but now's when we turn our attention to college basketball. And watching last night, I was watching Duke put on another impressive performance there and blowing people out, by the way. And then we started to wonder about this. When you look at certain players and then you go, boy, that name sounds familiar. And you go, you know, Cam Boozer, Carlos Boozer, you know, the father son combination here. And then you start to go down the list and it feels like, go back to when Chris Long was the number one pick in the draft and he was out of Virginia, and his dad, of course, Howie Long, a Hall of Famer. And if you're looking for that lineage and you're going, that's probably a pretty safe pick because Chris Long turned out to be a pretty good football player. You can trust the. The genes there, but, you know, Steph and Seth Curry and Dell Curry, Clay Thompson, Michael Thompson, Joe Kim, Noah and Yannick. Noah Yannick was a very talented tennis player. Kobe and Joe Bryant, Peyton, Archie and Eli Manning, Patrick Mahomes, and his father was a relief pitcher. You got Christian McCaffrey, and then you got Ed McCaffrey, Barry Bonds, Bobby Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr. Ken Griffey, Bo Bichette, Dante Bichette. And then you got the Boozers, but you have the Boozer twins. So you have one twin who's maybe the number One pick in the draft, and then his brother is like six inches. How are you? Twins. And he's six inches shorter. Kaden Boozer is six inches shorter. And I'm thinking, how does that happen? You know, one's going to be, you know, probably the first or so. I'm looking at the odds here, and it's Debanza right now is maybe the second pick. You got Patterson at Kansas. Who might be the first pick? Peterson. I don't know why I keep calling him Patterson, but he is Darren Peterson. He is expected to be the number one pick in the draft, or at least those are the. The odds. But I'm watching last night, and you're seeing a Duke team that's blowing people out. I think their last three wins, last three games, they won by 99 points total. And here are the odds. So, number one overall pick, Darren Peterson, minus 120. AJ Debanza, plus 120. Cameron Boozer, plus 650. Kingston Flemings, plus 12,000. Caleb Wilson, plus 12,000. Yes. Paul.

[Paulie]

Cameron Boozer for Duke. He looks about 22 years old. I checked. He's. He's 18. Like, not. Not 19 in a week or so. And it's not the Greg Odin thing. Like, he looks like a grown man physically. He's got the full beard going. They don't look like freshmen anymore, some of these guys. The thin freshmen of our past.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he's ready to go. And Coach Kyzhevsky, of course, probably playing to the home crowd saying that Boozer is the best freshman in America, and he might be. He's going to go in and play right away. But here is Coach K. Talking about Boozer.

[Ross Tucker]

To me, it's not close. This kid is so dependable, so poised and puts up amazing numbers and accuracy in passing and rebounding. And he sets a physical tone for our team that another team has to match. He's had really as good a year as any freshman that has played here,

[Dan Patrick]

and that's saying an awful lot. But Duke roughed up North Carolina State to clinch the accident, and they're the number one team in the country. Duke has won its last three games by combined 99 points. Out of the day. Brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Arizona, number two team in the country, beat Iowa State. Iowa State is sixth, and they roughed them up 73, 57 clinch the Big 12 regular season title. It's still strange to say that Arizona, Big 12. But now here's something that I was not aware of. But Tommy Lloyd, head coach at Arizona, won his 140th game of his career. That's the most by any coach in his first five years in NCAA history. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes here. That what? Stat of the day. Alrighty. We'll get phone calls coming up. Operator Tyler, sitting by. Ross Tucker, our good buddy, will stop by in 10 minutes. Reggie Miller, final hour of the show. Roger Bennett, men in blazers, has a new book out about the World Cup. Always great to have him. He's always a hit. Twitter @DP Show Email Address DP danpatrick.com come up with a poll question for the first hour of the program. College basketball has become the following. It's like there's a restaurant that changes its menu every single day so you don't know what you're getting. That's college basketball. Every single year, it's, hey, you want to go to that restaurant? What do they serve? Who knows? But it'll be great. It'll be fun, it'll be exciting, it'll be dangerous. That's what college basketball is. Every year it's like, oh, and so what's the menu? I don't know. Who knows? But come on in, take a chance on it. It's not good for college basketball to not have a little bit of familiarity. You know, the women's game, you get those players who are playing four years and the familiarity with men's basketball, you're just going to be introduced to some of these players and it's going to be time for them to move on. Purdue, it feels like it's like a barbershop quartet. You know, they, they've been there for a while.

[Paulie]

Their mascot should be a musket.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You're like, how long you guys been together? I don't know. I lost track. But got a couple of guys who've been there. Feels like five or six years. They're a really good team. And of course, we talk guard play, senior guard play, that's always important. And, and get ready. Get ready for that rush of Jay Billis and Seth Greenberg and telling us, you know, who to keep an eye on. That 8N matchup, the 125 matchup, all of those. Barkley maybe watching some college basketball. Who knows? Is he involved in the coverage this year? Are they doing anything with ESPN or cbs? Yes. Yes. Marvin.

[Ross Tucker]

I don't think so because they're with ESPN now, but Nate Burleson is on coverage for the ncaa.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. I Saw that. Yeah. CBS Mornings, NFL Today. Now he's going to do college basketball. I'm not sure who. I always got a kick out of watching Barkley on the Selection Sunday because Charles watched as much. He watched less basketball, college basketball than I did, but he'd be up there telling you, you know, it'd be Wisconsin, Stevens Point or something. And Charles trying to tell you something. I would love to have seen what it was like when they weren't on camera, tried to force feed them information. And I thought CBS went about it in the wrong way because they didn't know college basketball, but Clark Kellogg knew all about college basketball. I wanted Kenny and Shaq and Charles to be off talking about topics, not necessarily breaking down the starting lineup for Marist College, but it was entertaining. It probably not in the way they designed it to be. All right, Seaton poll question for the first hour of the program.

[Seaton]

Who would you rather watch a game with? Football with Ross Tucker. Soccer with Roger Bennett. Basketball with Reggie Miller.

[Paulie]

That's good.

[Dan Patrick]

Soccer with Roger Bennett. I just think he's such a unique, fascinating voice, and he's so bright, and he would have stories. He's entertaining. There's no wrong answer, but I think there's a right answer. And it's Roger Bennett. They're all great. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, Ross would be great.

[Seaton]

I mean, everything you just said about Roger works for Ross and Reggie. Yeah, for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Seaton]

By the way, Big R first named guest day.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Seaton]

Ross, Roger and Reggie.

[Dan Patrick]

It's a pirate's favorite letter for some reason.

[Seaton]

I have a spelling error here where I put Rod Tucker, and I kind of love that his name was Rod.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he will be in about 10 minutes when I introduce him. Ladies and gentlemen, Rod Tucker. Rod Tucker. Big day for NFL teams. You know, franchise tag conversation, releasing vets. We'll keep an eye on that as they roll in. Giannis back for the Bucks. I didn't think he'd play for the Bucks again, but he's back, so we'll talk to Reggie about that coming up. I was off by a week. My apologies. I think Jason Tatum might be back for the Celtics on Friday. I think they play the Mavs. I was told it'd be the previous week when he would be back, which is still early coming back from the Achilles, but, boy, Boston is an interesting team. They're a fun team to watch because there are a lot of guys contributing. And if you can get a half or three quarters of Jason Tatum, I think they're the team to beat in the east certainly. All right, 8773 DP show will come up with our poll question and we'll get to your your phone calls as well. But when we return, it'll be Rod Tucker joining us on the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.

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[Dan Patrick]

Scene what's the poll question for the first hour of the program?

[Seaton]

Yeah, we're going to go with who would you want to watch a game with? Rod Tucker? You can watch football with Rod, soccer with Roger Bennett or basketball with Reggie Miller.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right. 8773 DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Paulie said that there was a very popular newspaper in Europe, in London, I think the sun, and they picked up the fire story from the show yesterday.

[Paulie]

Actually a lot of places are picking it up off the TMZ report about the almost tragic fire in the damn Patch show studios and yeah, it's one of the bigger papers in Europe. Picked up the story and emblazoned all over Europe.

[Dan Patrick]

Emblazoned. Yeah, yeah. And we have men in blazers later on with Roger Bennett theme show. Yeah, but you know, we're lucky. Big German back there was signing autographs when I went back. He wants to do a dramatic reenactment of how he saved our lives.

[Paulie]

Dancing with the Stars? Possibly.

[Dan Patrick]

He wants to. He wants to get his firefighter unit. Firefighter uniform, not his unit. Yes. Todd, is this comparable to the Sully

[Ben M.]

landing in the water?

[Ross Tucker]

Close.

[Dan Patrick]

We look at that now. Does Tom Hanks play the big German in the movie?

[Seaton]

Have you sold the rights to the. Is it in development or.

[Dan Patrick]

I talked to Sandler. I talked to Sandman about it. Oh, Danny, I think you got a fire in that.

[Seaton]

He's playing the big German.

[Dan Patrick]

Ross Tucker. You might know him as Rod Tucker. He is, of course, host of the Ross Tucker football podcast. Follow him on social media at Ross Tucker, NFL. Good morning, Ross.

[Ross Tucker]

Good morning. So, first of all, I was with my daughters. They have a two hour delay because it's raining, so I don't know where the Rod Tucker is coming from. Secondly, I guarantee it'd be more fun to watch a football game with me than to watch soccer with Roger or basketball with Red. I get. I get. Reggie was a much better player than I was. I'm sure Roger Bennett is, like, very. I promise, everybody listening or watching. You would have an amazing time watching a football game with me.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Maybe we arrange that. Maybe we have a contest. Watch football with Rod Tucker. Seaton. Seaton. I guess labeled you incorrectly.

[Seaton]

I just had a typo in what I was looking at, and it, for some reason, Rod Tucker instead of Ross really cracked me up. So I just mentioned it, but it's really nothing deeper than me making a typo.

[Dan Patrick]

But it was R O D D. So not just like Todd, It's Rod Tucker.

[Ross Tucker]

I thought maybe it was. You got a chance to watch a football game with me and Fritzy together, and it was like, you know, JLo Bennifer or whatever, where. Where Fritzi and I were a combo package.

[Dan Patrick]

I've watched a game with Fritzi that was not fun, Especially if it's the Broncos. I mean, that's the only reason to watch. Now you and Shay and Irving would be interesting watching a game together. Maybe the Cowboys.

[Ross Tucker]

I picture Fritzi just being a nervous Nelly negative the whole game. That does not sound like it'd be fun at all.

[Dan Patrick]

It wasn't. We. I've watched a Super bowl with him. I've watched regular season games with him, and it's. He's a mess. He's a mess. Yeah. Okay. Were you invited to the combine after your illustrious career at Princeton?

[Ross Tucker]

No, not even close. Not. Not. Not even. I wasn't even on, like, the. The Combite combine snub list, which is fine because I stunk at all those drills for the most part anyway. It wouldn't help. My stock would only have hurt me. Although I might have been able to persuade some of the GMs if I got some of those interviews. That would have been my best part.

[Dan Patrick]

But you did a pro day.

[Ross Tucker]

I did. I went to Rutgers. I did a pro day two months after I had had hernia surgery. Sports hernia, core muscle, whatever they call it. My numbers wouldn't have been that good anyway, Dan. But my agent felt like I needed to prove I was healthy. Here's all you need to know about my numbers. At the Rutgers pro day before it started, there's like 16 NFL teams there. I introduced myself to the the scout from the Eagles. I tell them, hey, I'm from Reading, outside of Philly, grew up a huge Eagles fan. Would go to training camp, you know, go to Princeton, and he's like, okay, because it's nice to have a local flavor sometimes with undrafted free agents. So we have a really good conversation. My pro day goes so poorly that afterwards he won't even make eye contact with me. And he got out of the Rutgers bubble as fast as he can. And the Eagle, I played for almost every team. The Eagles never had one iota of interest in me whatsoever. That's how bad my pro day was.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow, the arm length topic that's now superseded the hand size. How important is arm length here?

[Ross Tucker]

Okay, so this is exciting because you're talking to one of the world's foremost experts in this. And we had breaking news at the combine. For the first time ever, someone my height or taller has shorter arms than me.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh yeah. Wait a minute, hold on. There we go.

[Ross Tucker]

Breaking news for the first time at Carson Beck, dan. I was 6, 4 and 5, 8 and my arm length is 30 and 6. 8. Right, 30 and 3 quarters. Horrendously bad. So I no longer introduce myself as a seven year journeyman offensive lineman. I'm now one of the ten best NFL offensive linemen of all time with sub 31 inch arms. Carson Beck was 6, 4 and 3 quarters and his arm length was 30 and 58 of an inch. Carson Beck, the first person. And I didn't realize this, like in high school. We're going back. If I just had normal arms, Dan, like 33 inch arms, I would have been dunking in high school basketball. I would have gotten more girls. It would have been incredible if I just had normal arms.

[Dan Patrick]

If a Carson Beck's a quarterback.

[Ross Tucker]

Exactly. Which means it doesn't matter at all. Listen, it's not the be all, end all. It definitely helps. Just like your reach helps if you're a boxer. But remember Mike Tyson still found a way to knock out a lot of guys that had a longer reach than him. So you have to combat it. So I had super short arms. What would I do? I attacked immediately. I would call, it's called jump setting where as soon as the ball is snapped, I would use the initial quickness to try to get on the guy right away. Because if I wait on them, Dan, and you go against like Richard Seymour and they have the one arm, it's called a long arm. That one arm, they put it right in my chest. I had no shot. I was like a, like I'd be like this, like it was very difficult. So it's not an, it's not a need to have, but it's really nice. And I, I, I'm very curious to know what my career would have been like or, you know, if I just like, just give me 32 inch arms, just give me like even below average would be fine. But you know, it's very hard to play professional football if you're a male version of a T. Rex. Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Out there, would you rather face Miles Garrett or Aaron Donald?

[Ross Tucker]

Aaron. Donald. Yeah. I mean Aaron's incredible, but he doesn't have the length element that Miles also has. And if I'm going against Miles, there's a lot of space. Space is not my friend. With Aaron, I can at least try to jump them, try to get on them quickly and give myself the best chance. I was pretty decent against power. It was more the movement stuff that really would, would give me problems.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, Westwood One analyst and host of the Ross Tucker football podcast. Let's look at the quarterbacking situations here. Where do you want to start? Which team? Do you think you have a better handle on what they're going to do here in the next couple of weeks or months?

[Ross Tucker]

I actually want to start with a player and I think this is fascinating because I, on today's Ross Tucker football podcast had Greg Rosenthal. He went over his free agent rankings from the NFL.com his number one ranked free agent, Dan. Malik Willis. Yeah, and I know Chris Sims. I've, I've heard Chris on your show talk about Malik Willis. Here's what's fascinating though. I don't really think people want to trade for Kyler Murray or Tua Tunga Violoa. And we know cousin's going to get released. Those guys might get released, but they have A lot of guaranteed money left. What does that mean? That means these teams might be able to get Kyler or Tua potentially for the minimum. For the minimum? Tua has 54 million guaranteed. You can get them for the minimum. Are you doing that or are you paying Malik Willis, who hasn't played that much football, 25 to 30 million dollars a year and committing to him on some level, Dan, you're going to get a competent starting quarterback like Tua and maybe Kyler on the very, very cheap, as opposed to a guy, Malik Willis, who flamed out, who. He's going to be a free agent and there's going to be multiple suitors because he looked good in the three games or whatever he played last year. The financial element of this is really, really fascinating.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so the Dolphins are going to be on the hook and Arizona is on the hook for the money that Murray and Tua are going to make or still owed.

[Ross Tucker]

Well, so what they're going to try to do is get anything in return, whether that's a draft choice and. Or get another team to pick up some of their contract. So that's what all the negotiating is, you know.

[Dan Patrick]

But it's like Denver eating the Russell Wilson contract.

[Ross Tucker]

Well, that could be the case for both Arizona and Miami. Or maybe there's so much money there that they have to give up a draft choice to get someone to eat half of it. Yeah, right. Like, okay, we'll give two of 20, you give them 30 and we'll give you a seventh round pick or whatever it is. I'm just making this up, but the Dolphins might have to give someone. Moneyball it, if you will. Dan might have to give someone a draft pick to get them to take some of Tua's financial burden off of the Dolphins. They'd rather do that probably, than just outright release them.

[Dan Patrick]

A source was telling me yesterday we were kind of going over the musical chairs with quarterbacks and he brought up. Do you think the jets being on the clock with the second pick overall was enough of a deterrent that Trinidad Shambless goes back to Ole Miss and Dante Moore stays at Oregon. Do you think that that could have factored in at all for these quarterbacks to say, I could come out, but that's not where I want to go?

[Ross Tucker]

Well, a lot of people were saying that about the New York jets, and I can't tell you how strongly I disagree with that being part of the discussion.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Ross Tucker]

You have a chance to be the number two overall pick in the NFL draft, and I know you can say the jets aren't a great organization or whatever. Ask Drew Aller from Penn State. Ask Garrett Nussmeier from lsu. Ask some of these guys who are now just hoping to be day two picks who a lot of people were saying maybe last year they would have been first round picks or going into this year they would have been first round picks. So we'll hear all this stuff about Dante Moore and Arch Manning and Chambliss and listen, they can't all go one or two next year, Dan. And people, this notion that you want to avoid the jets, first of all, it's a little bit disrespectful to their new regime. Secondly, what organization do you think is picking 1, 2 or 3 next year that you think is so great that you're going to avoid that? That. That is the worst logic. And they're going. They make plenty of money. Yeah, you're going to tell me $5 million of nil is worth turning down $50 million fully guaranteed. If you know you're going to be a top five pick in the NFL draft, you have to go. From a business standpoint, if you love college in Oregon, if you think you need more time to develop, we can have that conversation. From a strictly business perspective. I think it's asinine to think that someone would return to school to avoid a certain franchise.

[Dan Patrick]

Once again, it was just a thought that was brought up with.

[Ross Tucker]

No, no, no. And I believe you, Dan. But I've seen many people talking about that over the last few weeks on social media, including people I respect, by the way. You're also then a year further removed from potentially getting $60 million a year after your third year in the NFL if you're a good player. It just, it doesn't make sense to me at all. I mean, who do you think, who is going to have the number one pick next year? You think it's going to be the Seahawks or the Eagles? Like that's not how it works.

[Dan Patrick]

If Fernando Mendoza came out after his last year at Cal, okay, yeah, nobody knows him. Might have done the interviews. Great. Might have been a, you know, decent combine. Is he a second day draft pick?

[Ross Tucker]

I think so. I think he probably ended up being a day two pick. There was enough buzz about him at the end of last year.

[Dan Patrick]

But even if he stayed at Cal this past year, not at Indiana, is he the number one pick in the draft?

[Ross Tucker]

No, definitely not. But definitely not.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Ross Tucker]

He's the number one pick because he played really well, but the team had tremendous success. He Played in a lot of big games against. If he stays at Cal, let's say they have a great year and they're nine and three. He, he's not the presumptive number one pick. He's probably not even top 10.

[Dan Patrick]

If you're looking at the most impactful player, let's say, let's just say offensively, it's Jeremiah Love. Okay, agreed. Why would he not go second? Even though the jets have Breece Hall? If I can get another dynamic playmaker, why don't I cater my offense? So you have to stop me. He can play wide receiver. I mean, you could Christian McCaffrey. Him and Breece hall, they're probably keeping. Why wouldn't the jets take the the best, the most impactful offensive player?

[Ross Tucker]

Couple reasons, I think, one of which is the financial. You know, even to franchise tag a running back is like $12 million. So let's just say they franchise tag Breece Hall. You have a position like that for $12 million. You're not getting, and I'm not saying I agree with this, Dan. I'm just telling you this is how they look at it. You're not getting the value of Jeremiah Love being a top 10 player at that position. And if you're paying him what those guys make already as the number two overall pick, he'd be right up there with, you know, towards the top of the running back pay scale. Whereas if you take Arvell Reese and he's an elite edge rusher, rather than paying Miles Garrett or Micah Parsons $40 million a year, you're only paying Arvell Reese $10 million a year. So you're getting tremendous value. The argument would be that you're not recouping the same amount of value if you have a running back that high, as opposed to the other positions where the veterans get paid an exorbitant amount of money.

[Dan Patrick]

That's why you went to Princeton, I think.

[Ross Tucker]

And I always. I have the jacket to wear. My rain Jack.

[Dan Patrick]

I see it, I see it. What was your grade point at Princeton?

[Ross Tucker]

3.4. Good enough to be. I think the cutoff for Academic All American was like 33 or 33 5. I, I, I was right where I needed to be, Dan.

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[Ross Tucker]

I, I qualified.

[Dan Patrick]

You were an Academic All American?

[Ross Tucker]

Yeah, junior and senior year.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right.

[Ross Tucker]

Yeah. Cosida. Cosida. District 2 Academic All American. But we don't need to mention Poseidon, the district. You know what I mean?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't see a plaque there behind you with all your helmets and footballs.

[Ross Tucker]

Oh, that's because I have my wife made me put my prince and degree up. But it's on the side that doesn't need to be featured. It's just on the sidewall over here.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Rod Tucker or Ross Tucker. The Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Follow him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. Thanks, Rod.

[Ross Tucker]

See you boys.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, we'll take a break. Play of the Day Next Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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Oh my God. Of the day. This is the play of the day. Check this out.

[Ross Tucker]

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[Dan Patrick]

It's your play of the day. That's courtesy of the Jazz Radio Network. Keonte George finished with the dunk there in the fourth quarter for the Jazz. He finished with 36 points. Jamal Murray had 45 for the Nuggets. Play of the Day brought to you by True Green. Don't waste another weekend doing your lawn care yourself. Partner with the official lawn care treatment provider, the PGA Tour and get a golf course quality lawn the easy way. Sign [e-mail] then sit back and relax. My thanks to Will Ferrell. He reached out this morning, wanted to make sure that everybody was good. Thoughts and prayers from Will. We appreciate that. Alrighty, early poll results there. And you know what? This might be sneaky on Will's part. Getting the early movie rights after I mentioned Sandler would probably be interested.

[Paulie]

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[Dan Patrick]

early poll results.

[Seaton]

Seaton, who would you rather watch a game with, football with Ross Tucker, soccer with Roger Bennett, or basketball with Reggie Miller? Happy to say at 52% running away with this one right now. Football with Ross Tucker. Excuse me, Rod Tucker.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, Rod Tucker.

[Seaton]

Yes. Yes. Reggie Miller has 33% of them.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right. Chris in Syracuse leads us off. Good morning, Chris.

[Chris (Caller)]

Hey, thanks, Dan. Hey, got a couple things to throw at you. And also a couple things off the fire yesterday. I thought of a potential T shirt. It was read, have the date March 2, 2026. And then it would say Dan Patrick and his studio in Fuego.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Chris (Caller)]

And also I loved years ago, Paul said a couple of times that if ever there was a fire in the studio, the first thing he would do was run as fast as he could, get a wet towel and throw it over Dan's hair. And a few weeks ago, Patrick Mahomes restructured his contract with the Chiefs, hoping to make a run at another super bowl next year. Dan, during this year's NFL awards season, you talked about how they never give offensive Player of the Year and MVP to the same player. I wonder if Patrick Mahomes really rebounds next year and wins MVP if he could also win Comeback Player of the year, because I don't believe an NFL MVP has ever won that. And Dan, off your interview yesterday with Jeremy Fowler and being a big vikings fan, with JJ McCarthy looking more and more like our next Christian Ponder. The Vikes need a quarterback, but being well over the cap. And we planned on having our starting quarterback on a rookie deal. I hope we just sign one of the short term quarterbacks, not a guy who could potentially be our quarterback of the future. And I'm sure our new GM will want to have input on that decision. And Dan, I still can't figure out why at this time of year, the Vikings have no new GM in place.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Chris. Sean and Daytona Beach. Hi, Sean.

[Sean (Caller)]

Dan, Long time, long time. Thank you for calling me back. I have a few questions regarding the fire yesterday. We all know your affinity for first responders. We can look at the desk. We see all the patches. If I'm not mistaken, I believe you

[Chris (Caller)]

have first responders in your family. Was your wife aware of what happened

[Sean (Caller)]

when you got home? Because my wife was. My Alexa told her that there was a smoke alarm going off. She had to call the house, ask me what was going on. And also, have you ever had an incident at the house with the cigars? Thanks a lot, guys.

[Dan Patrick]

No, nothing with these cigars. But I don't leave them unattended. And no, my wife, I did not want to bother her with this. Now, she might be reading the papers or maybe the Today show picks up this story and then she's going to go know, you didn't tell me. And I just, I don't want to burden her with, you know, she has other things to worry about. And look, crisis averted. I mean, the big German who, if you're watching on Peacock, he has his, his firefighting uniform here. He has it here at his jacket. His helmet on, had a light on the top of it. He knew that something could happen. He's prepared. Yes.

[Ross Tucker]

Marvin, does Robin Roberts do a one on one with the big German?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I would probably be there with him.

[Ross Tucker]

Oh, it's got to be about you.

[Dan Patrick]

I think if you're going to get ratings, you know, you're like, oh my gosh, Dan Patrick. And they're the guy who saved his man cave. Yeah. So I think it, it works better when you couple. And I think me sitting there, you know, he's reassuring. He's a big guy. He's got his uniform on. He smells like smoke. And I mean, I smell like cigar, but he smells like smoke. David in Ohio. Hi, David. Welcome back.

[Sean (Caller)]

Hey, Dan, sorry about yesterday. Got a few, got a few fire puns here for you. The Dallas Cowboys don't need a fire department. They already put themselves out every January 2nd one. Following the fire department for the Cowboys is pointless. There's never really a real blaze, just a lot of preseason smoke. Last one. The Cowboys are like a fire drill. Loud, dramatic, and nobody actually in danger of winning anything. Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, David. David taking his shots at the Cowboys. Lucas in Texas. Hi, Lucas. What do you have for me?

[Sean (Caller)]

Hey, Dan, good morning.

[Dan Patrick]

Good morning.

[Sean (Caller)]

I've got a show pitch for you in just a second. But real quick, don't read too much into Will Ferrell's altruism there. I bet he's concerned about a certain package that he gave you a little over a year ago, if you remember what I'm, what I'm talking about. But my show pitch for you, if you remember I gave you the Dan Patrick takes a real gamble and watches a Cowboys game with Shane Irving. I've got a new one for you called Sport Court where you hear arguments from two different sides of a sport debate and you as the judge issue a ruling. And if you, if you'd allow me, I've got a case to bring before you because I just had a sports argument with a friend.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, real quick. Yep.

[Sean (Caller)]

My argument is that Duke basketball is not a blue blood yet the argument being that a blue blood transcend more than one coach period of dominance. So they need to win a national title under Shire to actually become a true blue blood. How rule you your honor?

[Dan Patrick]

I would have to do some research on that of the number of schools that have had multiple national championship winning coaches. But yeah, I could be kind of a Judge Judy. We could do a sports version of Judge Judy where you come in, you state your case. I like that Roger Bennett Men in blazers got a book out about the World Cup. Reggie Miller will stop by as well.

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