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Express Pros Play of the Day Poll question Stat of the Day all of that forthcoming day two of the draft coming up later on tonight. Last night, a couple of surprises, but really, this is kind of the let's reintroduce or maybe introduce you to some of the players who might be playing some minutes in the NBA next season. I'm going to throw out a couple of names and then you tell me if you can guess where I'm going and maybe even recognize them. If I said Bub Carrington or I said Jalen Wells. Eve's Missy, where are we going? I'm talking about NBA players who were rookies last year. Bub Carrington played the most minutes of any rookie last year. He was drafted 14th by the Wizards. Jalen Wells, second most minutes. He was drafted 39th by the Grizzlies. Eve's Missy, who played for the Pelicans, drafted 21st. He was fourth on the list. Stefan Castle, third on the list. He was drafted fourth overall by the Spurs. So what am I getting at? You can be drafted high. You can be drafted in the lottery, that doesn't mean you're going to have those kind of minutes. I think we feel like, you know, the old days when you're drafted in the first 10 picks, 15 picks, you're playing right away. Reed shepherd did not play for the Rockets last year. Now he played 500 minutes, but he was a G league player. He was the third pick overall. You're drafting players and it's almost like you're drafting them. They're going to be on your roster, but it's not like. It's sort of like baseball where they draft and then you disappear for a couple of years and then you come back, you know, you go to the minor leagues, these players are kind of there or maybe in the G league and then they might contribute. Now, do I think Dylan Harper is going to play significant minutes for the Spurs? Yes. Is Cooper Flag going to play significant minutes for the Dallas Mavericks? I do. Ace Bailey in Utah, VJ Edgecomb, I don't know how much he's going to play for the 76ers. They already have their guards there. So you're trying to figure this out of, okay, you drafted a guy, what's that mean for our team right away? How many of these guys will have a true impact? And you're going to have some projects here and you might have a guy who plays for a team who, who then gets traded and then becomes something in two or three or four years. Because you're drafting 18 year olds, 19 year olds in college baseball, they're at least 22, 23. So it's different. But it'd be like taking an 18 year old high school phenom in baseball. He's not going to the majors, he's going to the minors. Well, you're going to get guys who are going to play sparingly with a lot of these first round picks, if they even make the team. If I said to Moni Camara, he led in minutes the previous year for the Portland Trailblazers, Keanti George, he had the second most minutes in the previous draft. He was 6 16th overall. So there's no sure things. I mean, do I expect Ace Bailey to be a good player? I guess. But the situation you're in really dictates how quickly you become successful. If you go to a bad roster, a bad organization, it's already an uphill battle you're going in, you're going to be a rookie, you're just trying to survive. Now you're on a team with a bunch of knuckleheads and you got a. You know the, the history, it's systemic of how bad you are. There's a reason why those organizations stay bad. They're not relevant. Danny A. Didn't care that Ace Bailey didn't want to go to Utah. Danny A. Said, all right, we'll take you. You don't want to go to Philly or Charlotte. He didn't want to go to Utah. He wanted to go to Brooklyn and he wanted to go to Washington because he wants to be a star right away. I want my shots, I want to play right away. If I go to Charlotte, you know, Lamelo ball is going to be dominating. You know, he's ball dominant there. Doesn't want to go to the Sixers. Okay, that they're kind of a mess. Didn't want to go to Utah. And Danny H. Said, that's all right, but we're still going to take you and got a lot of talent. But I don't know if. I don't know if this strategy worked that he didn't want to work out for certain teams. Didn't want to go to Charlotte, didn't want to go to the 76ers. He's. He's too talented to have dropped too far. And I think he was hoping that he was going to drop maybe a couple more picks, at least one more pick. He wanted to go to the Pelicans. So this strategy didn't work. You ended up in Utah, but Dallas did well, obviously getting Cooper flag, who can now ease into minutes. If you played for another organization, you're like, all right, we're coming out to see Cooper Flag. Well, you're going to go out and see the Mavericks with Cooper flag. There's a big difference. And we're going to go see Cooper flag and the Nets, and I think the expectation level will be very beneficial. Carmelo Anthony, former number one overall pick, now an analyst for NBC with their NBA coverage, had this to say about Cooper Flag. To me, he doesn't do anything great. He just do a lot of very good. You know what I'm saying? He offensive rebound, very good. He in the passing lanes, very good. He's a weak side defender, very good on ball defender. He got a lot better. I want to see him against you. I want to see him against kd. I want to see him against Luca. I want to see him against an Edwards. Because you coming in as that guy. If he got to develop the right way, he got to get a skill set. You can't be in the pros and don't have a skill set. So you have to have a skill set. Like your skill set have to be something. Yeah. A1 drill, pull up like something florid. Like you have to have something. That's your go to. Right now, he don't have a go to. That's Carmelo on podcast P with Paul George discussing Cooper Flag. You know, I disagree with them of, you know, what's his bag. You can be a really good all around player. There's value in that. They're looking at this from an offensive perspective. So it's a myopic view of he's got to have a signature move ways he's 18 and I think his signature move is he doesn't have a signature move. He's got a variety of things. He's not going to be one dimensional. And look, Carmelo was incredible, but he didn't really have much of a move. It was just that jab step. But he was going to nail it. He's going to kill you mid range. But Carmelo was not the all around player that Cooper Flagg is. So there's a difference in that. It's the value in that. But Cooper Flag has an opportunity to learn. He can learn from Kyrie, he can learn from AD he can learn from Jason Kid if Jason Kid still wants to be the coach. Feels like that didn't go away yet. There was a report yesterday that either the Knicks and Jason Kid are still holding out hope, but Nico Harrison, by the way, you can't write a script for Nico Harrison. Where you go, hey, listen to this pitch Hollywood. This guy, he's going to trade a franchise player, death threats, he can't even go to games. Or they, you know, they boo him. And you know, the team had all kinds of injuries. You kind of limped literally into the playoffs. And then all of a sudden, long odds, you win the lottery and then you get Cooper Flag. That's what happened. So I guess the Mavericks had a good year. Would you say all the backlash you had, all the injuries, Kyrie's going to be out for half the year. Probably you get AD and you got bailed out. The ultimate bailout probably in NBA history where it's like, oh my God, what did we do now? We'd still do it again. He didn't play any defense. And then you end up with Cooper Flag. But watching last night, you know, it's fun to see some of these names that you saw kind of a, you know, six months, there were 18 freshmen drafted. This really was an introduction to rookie class 101 last night. And this BJ Edgecombe, I watched him. I really liked him at Baylor. I don't know what he's going to do in the NBA. I don't know what any of the, you know, con. Canipple. I don't know. I mean, at Duke, all right, you can look a, like a top five pick, I guess, at Duke. He's a really good shooter, but he is a, you know, standstill shooter. I don't know how much he's creating. You're going to play in Charlotte, which. Good luck. Good Charlotte. You got some minutes probably. I'm gonna guess so. I don't, you know, you're trying to figure any of this stuff out. Good luck. Because you're dealing mostly with freshmen. Dylan Harper, not a great shooter, but he can handle the ball. Well, San Antonio's got the rookie of the year, Stefan Castle and de' Aaron Fox. I'm gonna guess somebody is probably headed out of town. Could San Antonio who missed out on. And I don't have any information on this. This is just me watching the TV last night in between getting yelled at by Stephen A. Smith. Not directly. It just felt like it was like, I gotta turn down. Can you have a volume when Stephen A. Is on that? I could just turn it down just a little bit. And then it's kind of an auto adjust there, you know, it's Stephen A. Smith there. Don't they have the SAP or whatever that is? Just. This will be the sas. Sas? Yeah, the sas. Where it's like. Because he started yelling and I'm like, who's he? Why are we yelling? And yeah, I think at one point somebody said this. Bob Myers might have said, hey, this is supposed to be a good night, a positive night. I am positive. Slow down. Just slow down. It's okay. I don't know who came up with that idea of the louder you yell, the more often you're going to win your argument. Caspar is Jackachunas can't play. I don't even know where I was before. I get a lot of 18 year olds drafted. Yeah, it's the worst thing you could be in basketball. A graduating senior for your senior. Well, okay. Danny Wolf played at Yale and then went to Michigan. Now, Marvin loved Danny Wolf, love his game, big fan. But I don't know if he was a senior. He was a junior in Michigan. Okay. I. I don't know if there was a senior taken last night. I'm going to, I'm going to guess now that's the worst thing to be is a US Born senior going into the draft. If your senior year, it's like, hey, maybe second round, late second round. Yes. The only thing worse would be a fifth year senior. The Armando Bacot syndrome, as we like to call it here. Played five years at North Carolina. Just played great basketball and couldn't get in. I misspoke with Mellow. Mellow's third overall pick, not number one pick. Reminding Detroit fans about that. Yes, that's true. Yeah, you should have left that out. Yes. All right, so play of the day is coming up. Thank you for setting me straight on that with Carmelo. All right, so stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. Brooklyn Nets had five first round picks. 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It's an ongoing problem that I first witnessed in person where one player gets traded. He's already got his hat on. He's already had his moment with the commissioner, and then all of a sudden, he's got to act excited because now he's going to another team. I was there when Scotty Pippen and Olden Polonies were traded for one another. They were a couple of rows from each other, and we were interviewing them at the draft, and then all of a sudden you hear, and Seattle and Chicago have a trade. Scotty Pippen is going to go to the Bulls. Olden Paulonies is going to the Seattle Supers. So they just traded hats. Well, the problem is, if you go in and you got a lot of hair, the hat doesn't look very good. I'm watching Walter Clayton Jr. III, Florida. Great. He got drafted. He put his hat on. But, you know, a strong wind, somebody opens a door and it's going to fly off. Visor Visor is my suggestion here. Really? Team Visors? Yes. Yeah, it's. It's all about marketing. That's why they put the hat on you right away, like, oh, and you can get this hat right now, I think we go with Visors. Now, I'm not a visor guy, but if you're looking for product placement, that might look a little cooler. That would be what I would go with instead of just a. Let's just have this rest on top of your noggin here. Yes, Paul? Yeah, I'm looking at the videos now. There's a number of players who have kind of big hair and the hat's just kind of resting there. It could get blown off. What about a little deus where you got a visor, a hat, maybe like a soccer scarf on those team, and they pick which one they want to walk out with. The commissioner with. Well, Fritz, he said a sash maybe or maybe a chain. Now, a lot of them had chains on last night, but, you know, maybe you have one and, you know, Con knipple comes out with a Charlotte Hornets chain around his neck. Yes, Marvin. Yeah, I think it just looks cleaner that way. Like, it's not bothering me as much as others, but it's still kind of. But this is all about marketing, then the chain. Yeah, it looks cooler. It just looks Cooler. Hey, put the chain on. And then you just have this hat on, all this hair on visor. You said visor? Yes. Let the hair be seen. I could still get the logo in there. And I go with the visor. You don't think I'm out. The kids are not going to go visor. Now. We're playing this game in and out. Okay, you're in or out on visor. Anybody in on visors for draft picks? Dylan. Dylan is big visor guy. Okay. Yikes. Only downside is if you, the top of your head is a little thinner, you're exposed. Other than that, though, it's the perfect piece. I don't think a lot of guys are going bald at the draft just because you are. I mean, Alex Caruso might be, but, you know, that's. I think most of these guys came in with, you know, some pretty good moss there. Yeah. Paulie, going back to the mid round draft thing like Derek Queen of Maryland was drafted last night by the Atlanta Hawks. He walks up on stage, one of the great moments of his life. He puts on a Hawks hat, takes a picture. His family's taking pictures. He got the Hawks hat on. Twelve minutes later, he is a New Orleans pelican. He can't go back and retake the picture. Is this fixable? No, because I'm going to guess the pelicans said, hey, if you get that guy, then we'll make this trade with you. If you don't get the guy, then we're not going to make the trade. If he's available, we want you to take him, then we'll make this pick or we'll make this trade. Yes, Marvin. Yeah. Because it's usually a draft him for us. Yes. So if you're the Hawks or the Wizards or whoever, a drafting for us and then afterwards we'll trade. But yes, going back on it, watching Scottie Pippen wear the Sonics hat or Chris Weber wear the magic hat. Yes, it looks a little awkward because they never play for those teams. But when he's announced, could you then have the guy that maybe he's traded for walk up and then you could have the exchange up there and then he could re hug the commissioner. The hat handoff. Yeah, it's like a baton. And then like Eli Manning when he got drafted by the Chargers and he looks miserable, but he knows he's not going to stay with the Chargers and he is going to go to the Giant. So it's like holding up the jury. Okay. Hey, this is great. This is the Moment I thought of all my life, the Giants and Chargers have a trade and then all of a sudden you see Eli smile. Yes, Todd, I know marketing wise a cap would cost, I guess a bit more than a headband. But since there's a lot of headbands in college and the pros, can you do a headband with a nice big logo for those that have the hair where it looks like it's just resting up on your head where it looks ridiculous? I'm, I'm open for business with that. Absolutely. You're talking about a forty fifty dollar hat versus what could be like a ten fifteen dollar headband. So you're losing some money there, but it just looks better. Well, I don't think, I mean, once again, you just want him to go to your kind of your catalog there. Hey, they got headbands there. Oh, what else they. Then they have a hat there. Hey, they got a sash here. Hey, you can get a chain, a necklace here. Yes, yes, Dylan, they have. You've seen those giant hats too, right? Those are popular. Why don't they do those? Those are kind of stupid. Exactly. Yeah. But on Walter Clayton Jr last night it would have fit perfectly. Yeah, yeah, those are. Those are kind of corny. What's the poll question today, Dylan? All right, Dan, this is from Todd. Oh. Cooper Flag's NBA career will exceed expectations meet expectations, fall slightly short of what we thought or not come close to matching all the hype. Well, I don't know what, I don't know what the expectations are, but I'm glad you asked because draftkings just sent me some information. Cooper Flag rookie season prompt bet how many points is the over under Cooper Flag rookie year Paul, I'm going to start with you. 15.8. Todd 17.6. Dylan 14 9. Marvin 13. 8. 16 and a half. 16 and a half. How about rebounds per game for Cooper flag? Marvin 7.8. Paul 5.9. Todd 6.1. Bloop. Bloop. Exactly. No way. Yeah. You did it. Yeah. You did it. Cooper Flags odds to win the mvp. I've got those two. It's Joker and SGA are the two favorites. Then it's Giannis. It's Luca. Anthony Edwards The Joker is plus 200. SGA is plus 250. Cooper flag to win the MVP is plus 50,000. So Dylan, you're part of the gambling podcast and you usually do stupid things. Dylan comes in today and he goes, you know, there are a lot of people who are betting on Dylan Harper going number one overall. I Go. Why? Well, the. I think people were banking on the mavericks ineptitude to do the completely wrong thing. And I think it was like plus 15,000 for Dylan Arper. So 100 bucks were only 15 grand. Okay. They made one move that they regretted. Or maybe they don't regret, but that doesn't mean they're going to be making a bunch of stupid moves. And just because you made one move and you traded Luca. Um, now, granted, they got bailed out, but you trade Luca and. And they were adamant that they just didn't think he was going to be in shape and playing defense. And this regime thinks you got to play defense. Okay, I get it. But that doesn't mean you're going to go. Hmm. You know, on second thought, maybe we should take Dylan Harper instead of this Cooper flag. Kid, you didn't bet this, did you? No, I. Believe it or not, I stayed away from that. Oh, because you normally you'll go to parlays or long shots. I like a sprinkle on some of the stupider things. Gambling podcast later on today@danpatrick.com, shane Irving. Bad Larry and Dylan. Yes, Paul. I just did a quick check. I have only two players in history who won rookie of the year in MVP in the same season. Two all time. One. One is Wes unseen. That's right. 1959. I'm sorry, 1969. 70. Wow, that's wild. Baltimore. He averaged out 14 points, 18 rebounds. MVP and rookie of the year. And there's one more about a decade earlier. Decade earlier? Yes, I'll say Wilt Chamberlain. That's correct. As a rookie, Wilt Chamberlain at age 23, averaged 38 points and 27 rebounds per game. Oh, yeah. Stat of the day, brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards to the Dan Patrick show. Wilt's numbers are crazy. You average 38 points and. But we. It's like we disavow any knowledge of those. Like it's a, you know, Ripley's Believe it or Not. Like, I don't know. Did anybody see that? Yeah, he dominated. Oh, I know. He's playing against plumbers and electricians. So is everybody else playing against Plumber. Nobody else was putting up 3,824. Oh, yeah. But, you know, how did he do against Bill Russell? I think Wilt had 55 rebounds in a game against the Boston Celtics. Isn't that every rebound? He had every rebound against Bill Russell. Oh, gosh, yes. Paulie, I think you nailed it on Wilt. It's like he's a mythological figure, not a basketball player. His numbers are so much better than anybody else's that if you went by numbers, he's by far the best player in NBA history. Yeah, but we allow this with Babe Ruth. Yes, but imagine if Babe kept pitching. Yeah, but he had more home runs than entire teams in certain years. So there is a mythological feel to Babe Ruth. I just. I don't think we're fair to Wilt Chamberlain. And you rarely are with the big guy. You know, nobody likes the big guy, but it's not his fault. I mean, he just played against whoever he was supposed to play against, and Babe is playing against whoever. No integration back then. Now, was he different than everybody else? Yes, but it just feels like, oh, Babe Ruth. He had more home runs than teams did. Wilt. Who's he playing against? Wilt didn't cheat. Like, he didn't do anything that was illegal. Yes, but with the NBA, We've talked about this before. Championships are what really matters. And when your rival wins all the championships and you only win two, that hurts your case. Like with Babe Ruth, I don't know how many World Series he has, because it's not that important when you're talking about the greatest players ever in that sport. But in basketball championships, because we know Bill Russell has 11 championships. If Will had six championships, top three at least, would he now. Would we now look at him differently? That would he be at, you know, top three, top two basketball player of all time, just by winning four more titles with all the stats that he had? Yes. Why isn't Bill Russell the greatest player of all time? But people hold him in higher regard than Will Chamberlain, I think. Well, I'm just saying Michael Jordan won six. Isn't all about winning championships. Or is Michael did it in a. In a stylistic way that was, you know, we were able to watch it. Whereas Bill Russell, you're like, ah, the Celtics back then, you know, who are they playing against? You know, okay, but he did win 11, which is five more than Mike. I just think that you, you know, we. We bring Russell into the conversation because he won 11 titles. How many championships did John Havil check win? He went six, I think eight. And he. And he scored 26, 000 points. He's not in the conversation. He's not even in the top 15 players of all time. He had eight titles, eight and 13 years, and he scored 26, 000 points. I think. Yes, Marvin. But I think with Michael Jordan, it might be the dominance of one singular player where as soon as he got on the floor, especially when he started winning championships, you knew they were going to win because of that one guy. Russell, Celtics, all. That entire team had hall of Famers on it. Yeah. But Mike wasn't winning a title until he got players to help him win a title. He, you know, his rookie first couple of years, he was just leading the league in scoring. Now, granted, what he did against the Celtics in the garden that afternoon, I mean, that's incredible. But he didn't win until he got Scotty and Dennis and Ku coach and Horace Grant and, you know, he had to have players. They all have to have players. Nobody's winning a title, you know, as a individual. So Mike was incredible, but Mike needed players. Now, granted, Wild had some really good rosters. It was just Boston. They were just a better coach team. Yes. So who do you have as the greatest player ever? I think that Kareem. If I look at the whole career, I would put Kareem. I think he's the most dominating player I ever saw. And he did it in a elegant way, an effortless way. If I look at high school, college, and the pros, I probably say him, but it's tricky. You know, it's once. Once again, it's. It's in the open to interpretation, the eye of the beholder. In a modern era. Oh, what's. What's Kareem going to be like? I have no idea. You know, Michael, in the modern era, I have no idea. I mean, I have an idea. What's Wilt like today? You know, people make these arguments, but you were in your era. What did you do in your era? That's the only thing I can go, how much better were you than everybody else in your era? Wilt, statistically was. It was so much better than everybody. When you average 50 a game for a season, like, I have to acknowledge it some way. But when BABE Ruth at 60 home runs, we're like, yeah, and the babe, he had 60, you know, like, okay, what's different? Yes, my. But even back then, writers didn't show w respect like that because when he averaged 50, he didn't win the league MVP. I know Oscar averaged a triple double. He averaged 50. How ridiculous that sounds to say that out loud. 50 a game. But if he had more championship. Yeah, yes, but. And yes, he. In the biggest moments, he came up small. He did. Although he had a pretty. Statistically, if you go back when they lost to the Knicks in 1970, check Wilt's numbers in that championship game. So Willis Reed hits two jumpers and that's it. He scores four points. They end up winning, I think 113 to 99. And I think Wilt may have had like 28, 24, something like that. I think, I think once again, I'm just going off hazy memory. Hazy memory. 28 points, 24 rebounds, something like that. Can you check the box score? 1970, game seven against the Knicks. Bueller. Bueller. Yes, Marvin. He had 21 points in 24 rebounds. Okay. It's still pretty good. Game seven. But you would have thought he was a bum because Willis Reed hit two jumpers. Yes. Mark. Jerry west and Wilt Chamberlain played all 48 minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did we get here? Oh, Wilt Chamberlain. And then I started something with you, so forgive me. Oh, okay. It's my fault. Yeah. Because then all of a sudden this sends, you know, our listeners into a tizzy. And then all of a sudden it becomes, let's talk about Michael Jordan and LeBron. You know, I would put. If we're looking at careers, I would put LeBron up there with Kareem the whole career. Whole career. But if you said I had one game to win, I would want Mike. Now, I don't know if that solves anything. I don't know if it does, but I can't disavow the knowledge of looking at LeBron's career from start to finish. Living up to the hype. And Kareem, living up to the hype. He lost, what, one or two games in high school, two games in college, won three national titles, would have won four. He wasn't eligible. And then he wins, what, six titles, five titles in the NBA. Six titles. I mean, start to finish. And he was the all time leading scorer there for a while. LeBron, okay, didn't win enough. All right. Or whatever the knock is. But I, I think when you're looking at These longevity matters, LeBron's been durable, consistent. You know, he's still probably close to one of the top 10 players in the league at his age. So once again, I, I don't want to get sidetracked into that, but I think, and I. It's not that I struggle with it, but I do contemplate it a lot because I saw what Mike did in person and I, you know, you'll never erase that from my mind of. Or diminish it in any way. He did it. Now, granted. Did John Paxton and Steve Kerr hit big shots? Yes. Mike got him to the point where, hey, you're going to double me, you're going to be open, make the shot. Mike's the reason why he got to the finals where those guys could have taken those shots. Don't make any mistake about that. I watched it, got to see it, spoke to him after. It was real. It's not one of those, man. You know, I remember listening on the radio or reading in the newspaper about this guy. I was like, nope, Guy did that right in front of everybody. Yes, Mark. Yeah, for me, always there's mythological figures like Will, but there's mythological figures that are. I'm trying to see how I can word this. It's Ruth, Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan. But with Mike, it was a mythological figure who was right in front of you, whereas Babe Ruth. It was. You'd read about him or listen on the radio. You're weren't seeing him unless you went in person. So you would just hear about this. And Mike was right in front of you, but it didn't seem real. Yes, Mark. I'm going to add one more guy. Okay. Bo Jackson. I know he didn't play long, but that makes the myth even greater. I think the further away from his career we get, the bigger mythological figure he is. 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It might be you kind of work yourself into the offense instead of the offense is going to work around him. You know, those days, it feels like are gone when you had that number one pick and you're like, we're running everything for you. He's 18, not going to do that. Yes, Marvin. They might treat him like a Sean Marion type A cut to the basket, get some easy baskets, finish at the rim because you don't have to create anything because you have Kyrie, Klay Thompson and Anthony Davis. Yeah, yeah, I think, I mean, look, I'm going to assume they know what they're doing. J kid will put him in the right position there and I think it's good. It's a great situation to go to. We talk about it all the time, especially with quarterbacks. Hey, this team has the number one pick. They weren't any good. Go in and save them. I don't care how good you are, you're not saving Tim and Syracuse. Hi, Tim. What's on your mind? Good morning, gentlemen. This is the first time from Syracuse, New York. 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Detailed Summary of "The Dan Patrick Show" – Episode: Hour 1 – Mavericks Salvage Season by Drafting Cooper Flagg, Hats of the Draft (June 26, 2025)
Overview
In the first hour of this episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick and his co-hosts dive deep into the recent NBA draft, focusing on the Dallas Mavericks' strategic decision to draft Cooper Flagg. The discussion encompasses expectations for Flagg's career, comparisons with historical players, and the broader implications of modern draft strategies. The episode also features lively debates, listener interactions, and insightful statistics that provide listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the current state of the NBA and its future talents.
Dan Patrick opens the conversation by analyzing the significance of the Mavericks selecting Cooper Flagg in the latest NBA draft. He sets the stage by highlighting the unpredictability of rookie performances in the modern NBA, contrasting it with past eras where high draft picks were almost guaranteed significant playing time.
"You can be drafted high. You can be drafted in the lottery, that doesn't mean you're going to have those kind of minutes."
— Dan Patrick [20:45]
Patrick references other recent rookies like Bub Carrington, Jalen Wells, and Stefan Castle, who surpassed expectations by securing substantial minutes during their rookie seasons. This comparison sets the foundation for evaluating Flagg's potential impact.
Bringing in expert perspectives, Patrick cites comments from Carmelo Anthony, who recently discussed Flagg's abilities. Anthony provides a nuanced view, acknowledging Flagg's defensive prowess while questioning his offensive differentiation.
"He doesn't do anything great. He just does a lot of very good... He's a weak side defender, very good on ball defender."
— Carmelo Anthony [25:10]
This critique serves as a focal point for the ensuing debate among the hosts regarding Flagg's potential role and development within the Mavericks' system.
Paul, one of the co-hosts, counters Anthony's assessment by emphasizing the value of Flagg's versatility. He argues that being an all-around player holds significant merit, especially in today's NBA, which increasingly values defensive flexibility and multifaceted skill sets.
"You can be a really good all around player. There's value in that. They're looking at this from an offensive perspective."
— Paul [26:30]
Paul contends that focusing solely on offensive signatures overlooks the integral role that defensive contributions play in a player's overall impact on the court.
The discussion transitions to broader draft strategies and how organizational decisions influence a rookie's trajectory. Patrick highlights the importance of mentorship and the environment provided by seasoned coaches like Jason Kidd, who is part of the Mavericks' coaching staff.
"Cooper Flagg has an opportunity to learn. He can learn from Kyrie, he can learn from AD, he can learn from Jason Kidd if Jason Kidd still wants to be the coach."
— Dan Patrick [29:00]
The hosts debate the risks associated with drafting players who may not immediately fit into a team's plans, referencing historical instances where high draft picks were swiftly traded, impacting their initial development and team chemistry.
Engaging with their audience, the hosts present results from a recent listener poll regarding Cooper Flagg's NBA career prospects. The poll question posed was:
"Cooper Flagg's NBA career will exceed expectations, meet expectations, fall slightly short of what we thought or not come close to matching all the hype."
The results revealed that a slim majority of 52% of listeners believe Flagg will "meet expectations."
"52% say they'll meet expectations."
— Host Summary [40:15]
This segment underscores the mix of optimism and caution surrounding Flagg's potential impact.
The conversation takes a historical turn as the hosts compare Flagg's projected statistics to those of NBA legend Wilt Chamberlain. They discuss Chamberlain's extraordinary rookie season, where he reportedly averaged 38 points and 27 rebounds per game—numbers that remain unparalleled in NBA history.
"He averaged 38 points and 27 rebounds per game."
— Dan Patrick [45:30]
This comparison serves to contextualize the high expectations placed on modern rookies and the challenges they face in meeting or exceeding such legendary benchmarks.
The dialogue shifts to a passionate debate about the greatest NBA players of all time. The hosts compare Wilt Chamberlain with other legends like Michael Jordan, LeBron James, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, weighing statistical dominance against championship success.
Paul argues that Chamberlain's staggering statistics make him a mythological figure in basketball lore, while others emphasize the importance of championships and team success in defining greatness.
"It's like we disavow any knowledge of those. Like it's a, you know, Ripley's Believe it or Not."
— Paul [50:00]
Dan reflects on how team dynamics and coaching impact a player's legacy, noting:
"Mike was incredible, but Mike needed players."
— Dan Patrick [55:10]
This segment highlights the complex interplay between individual talent and team success in evaluating a player's place in NBA history.
As the hour concludes, the hosts consolidate their discussion by reiterating their cautious optimism about Cooper Flagg's future with the Mavericks. They acknowledge the supportive environment and strategic mentorship he is likely to receive, positioning him well for gradual development and long-term success.
"He’s young and he’s going to a veteran team and they’ll ease him in."
— Dan Patrick [58:00]
Dan Patrick on Draft Unpredictability:
"You can be drafted high. You can be drafted in the lottery, that doesn't mean you're going to have those kind of minutes."
— [20:45]
Carmelo Anthony on Flagg's Skills:
"He doesn't do anything great. He just do a lot of very good... He's a weak side defender, very good on ball defender."
— [25:10]
Paul on the Value of an All-Around Player:
"You can be a really good all around player. There's value in that. They're looking at this from an offensive perspective."
— [26:30]
Listener Poll Results:
"52% say they'll meet expectations."
— [40:15]
Dan Patrick on Chamberlain's Stats:
"He averaged 38 points and 27 rebounds per game."
— [45:30]
Paul on Chamberlain's Legendary Status:
"It's like we disavow any knowledge of those. Like it's a, you know, Ripley's Believe it or Not."
— [50:00]
Dan Patrick on Team Dynamics and Player Legacy:
"Mike was incredible, but Mike needed players."
— [55:10]
Dan Patrick on Flagg's Development:
"He’s young and he’s going to a veteran team and they’ll ease him in."
— [58:00]
Conclusion
This episode of The Dan Patrick Show offers an insightful analysis of the Dallas Mavericks' draft strategy, the potential impact of Cooper Flagg, and situates these discussions within the broader context of NBA history and player development. Through expert opinions, listener interactions, and robust debates, the hosts provide a nuanced perspective that is both engaging and informative for fans seeking to understand the evolving dynamics of professional basketball.