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everyone, it's Emily Simpson and Shane Simpson from the Legally Brunette podcast.
Jonas Knox
Each week we're bringing you true crime through a legal lens.
Emily Simpson
Whether you want all the facts on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie or you still need to wrap your head around the Diddy verdict, we we're breaking it all down step by step.
Jonas Knox
And we're not just lawyers, we're also husband and wife. It makes for some pretty entertaining episodes.
Emily Simpson
Listen to Legally brunette on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing.
Jonas Knox
Hey, if they'll kill a cop and bury him, what are they gonna do to me?
Emily Simpson
What really happened to the missing deputy? Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Listen to Valley of Shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jonas Knox
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio and away we go on a Thursday morning. It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's levar Arrington. I'm Jonas Knox. We are two pros and a cup of joe. Normally you can hear us before the Dan Patrick Show Monday through Friday, 6am Eastern Time, 3am Pacific, alongside Brady Quinn. Brady Quinn is Not with us today. So when Lavar and I just work, the two of us, we. I'm black and I look like Dracula. So we are called Black and Drac. So you are getting a black and
Lavar Arrington
drag and I'm black.
Jonas Knox
A black and we call the show Black and drag. Hey, it is what it is, man. All right.
Emily Simpson
Racist.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, Carried away there. I don't even know what that voice was, to be honest.
Jonas Knox
It's all good.
Lavar Arrington
But come on back. Is Black and drag Black and drag? Is Black and drag this. Good morning, everyone.
Jonas Knox
This Black and drag edition of the show is going to take you all the way up until noon Eastern Time, 9am Pacific. You can listen on the iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. You can watch live on YouTube as well. Just go to 2 Pros FSR on YouTube. You can watch the simulcast ass of this show as we are gonna play some grab ass here for the next three hours filling in for Dan and the guys.
Lavar Arrington
And we hope you'll play along.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, why not?
Lavar Arrington
You grab some ass too. Okay.
Jonas Knox
It's like that David Copperfield bit where he just. We touched the screen, you remember? And like the magic trip happens back in the day. What a scam that was. I don't want to make reckless allegations here to start the show, but it just. It just seemed a little far fetched that you could touch a screen and he knew exactly what you were going to touch. The tv. It's weird.
Lavar Arrington
That was pretty cool, though.
Jonas Knox
It's great.
Lavar Arrington
You know, even when he was in that, that, like, you know, that coffin and it was full of water or whatever and he was up in there,
Jonas Knox
like, how did he get out of there?
Lavar Arrington
I don't know. I just still don't know. I should know.
Jonas Knox
I'm Dracula. I should know.
Lavar Arrington
You should, bro.
Jonas Knox
Now, with that being said, the NFL off season is off and running, okay? And the NFL off season is filled with rumors, it's filled with reports. It's my favorite time of the year because after the dust settles and the draft is finished and free agency is over and we're getting ready for training camp, I love to go back and look and see it. All the garbage everybody took in. We're all the DeLorean on back to the Future. They feed us garbage and we just go like, you just shove whatever crap you can inside the gas gauge. And we are off and running. And we are off and running with another wild bit of speculation when it comes to the NFL. Max Crosby, superstar for the Las Vegas Raiders.
Lavar Arrington
Dn.
Jonas Knox
He. He was talking on his podcast, the Rush podcast, with Caleb Williams, and they were just, you know, giving each other love for about an hour, like, to, you know, waxing poetically about their matchup and how. How great it was and how the potential and all these things that came along with it. And Max Crosby had this to say to Caleb Williams, conclusion of the podcast. Let's take a listen.
Lavar Arrington
Just to be open and honest, bro, like we talked about earlier, but respect. Yeah. Different level, bro. You're one of those guys for sure, and you're just getting started. Yep. You know, I don't even know you. You understand yet how good you can be. Yeah. And that's the scariest part.
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
Lavar Arrington
You know what I mean? Just keep that mindset. Keep doing what you're doing. You know, we're locked in. Absolutely, you know, forever. So keep doing your thing, bro. You need me. Hit me at any time. It goes vice versa.
Jonas Knox
Now, that just sounded to me like a couple of NFL players with mutual respect who are on a podcast just saying nice things about each other.
Lavar Arrington
He didn't have to go that deep with it, though.
Jonas Knox
Okay.
Lavar Arrington
So I. I thought that was pretty cool that. That he gave Caleb his propers like that on. On the podcast. I mean, sometimes guys are very self absorbed. Little arrogant.
Jonas Knox
Nah.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah. Little out of touch with. With reality and how they see things. I thought that was really. That was it. It sounded and seemed like a genuine moment, and I. I've only had those things to say about people that I've played against or I've watched play that I really like. I like their game. I like something about how. How they are as a person, whatever it may be. There had to be something connected to that person that made me feel such a way to be compelled to feel those types of things that Crosby said. And. And for what it's worth, he wasn't lying. Like, Caleb Williams probably doesn't even know how good he can be, and he is just getting started, and he can be a generational talent, and I want to play for the Bears with you, man. Come on. Bring me on in. Get me up. Get me up out of here. Like, let's. Let's. Let's. Let's. Let's cut through shenanigans. Let's cut through all of it. And. And, like, can you get me to Chicago, bro? Like, come on, man. Windy City. Max Crosby, Kayla Williams, let's go.
Jonas Knox
All right, so. So this is. This is the problem I've got with all this, because I get It. Max Crosby and Jay Glazer's reported on this. He's not thrilled with. With what has happened in Vegas. And let's be honest, exactly why would he be? I mean, it's been. It's been a little bit of a circus tent there and not the good kind. And there's been all sorts of stuff that's gone on. Whatever plan they've had, it hasn't worked. It's just been a little bit of a disaster. And so he's frustrated. He wanted to continue to play. They shut him down. He felt like they were tanking. You know, they're trying to get the number one pick. All of that is fair, but the problem I have with people assuming that, hey, he's being really nice to a guy on his podcast, so that must mean that that guy's gonna end up with the Bears is the fact that the Raiders hold his rights. And Adam Schefter reported that the Raiders are going to be asking for something similar to Micah Parsons, you know, two number ones and. And a position player, a marquee player, to go along with it for any trade with Max Crosby, and they don't want to trade him. So just because Caleb Williams is on a team that could use some prep pass rush help, because that was one of the Bears issues, is they couldn't get to the quarterback. So just because he's on a podcast and the guy's being nice to him, doesn't all of a sudden mean the Raiders are going to be like, hey, you know what? Upon further review, he was so nice to you and you guys get along so great, and he doesn't have a problem with the fact that you paint your nails. So what we're going to do is we're going to take less of a deal and we're going to trade you to Chicago to make you happy. The Raiders are going to be like, nah, man, kiss my ass. You're going to go to where we going to get the most value for you. And if that means we're going to send you to Carolina or New England or Chicago St. Bowl, who cares?
Lavar Arrington
Who cares?
Jonas Knox
Like, whatever value you can get in return, that's going to be the highest value. That's where they're going to trade him. It has nothing to do with Caleb Williams going on a podcast and those guys getting along. That's the part I don't get.
Lavar Arrington
Well, here's the part you have to understand about what they did. It's a strategic play because we all know that public opinion drives behind the scenes decisions, too. And if this were just like we talked about in. In a prior show, about putting it out there first before the other side puts it out there. Right. We were talking about C.J. stroud, his. His representation and the Houston Texans. They're putting it out there like the Houston Texans put it out there. We may be open. McShay put it out there that they could be open to trade discussions about CJ Stroud. CJ Stroud is in the fourth year of his contract. This is that time where you actually are looking to extend and do that blockbuster deal that. That these guys are getting these days. That's the same situation here. Jonas, Max Crosby going on a show, and not only on a show, but a specific show. Not only a specific show, but specific to a possible purpose of what he wants to ultimately get done. Getting out of Vegas is probably number one. That's probably number one on the list, by the way.
Jonas Knox
Why would you want to do that?
Lavar Arrington
Right? But then you see this up and coming team. Ben Johnson comes in, he lights it up. His. His rookie year. As. As a coach, you have this quarterback that can be the quarterback of the future, and Caleb Williams. So you not only go on a show to talk about the possibilities of what your future holds and this and that, but you do it with Caleb Williams, who is the quarterback for the. He's already the best quarterback ever for the Chicago Bears already right now. Sorry, Mc McMahon. Sorry. Sorry. Grossman.
Jonas Knox
Jay Cutler.
Lavar Arrington
Cutler.
Jonas Knox
Peter. Tom Willis.
Lavar Arrington
Sorry. Sorry, fellas.
Jonas Knox
Jim harbaugh. Sorry, Kate McNown.
Lavar Arrington
Sorry. Who's the other dude that looked like Tony Romo? What's his name? He used to play. He's. Not too long ago, he was up in there. He was a draft pick. He was a high guy. What's his name?
Jonas Knox
Oh, Mitch Trubisky.
Lavar Arrington
Trubisky. Doesn't he look like Tony Romo a little bit? If you think about it, they look like they could be.
Jonas Knox
Not bad.
Lavar Arrington
Like. Like step brothers. Yeah. Like they got the same mom, maybe not the same dad or same day.
Jonas Knox
You were telling me that Trubisky would be a better broadcaster, though.
Lavar Arrington
He would.
Jonas Knox
I think you said that before the show, Jonas.
Lavar Arrington
I don't know.
Jonas Knox
Oh, look at. It's gonna be a quick slant and they take a knee. What happened there?
Lavar Arrington
Tony?
Jonas Knox
And they take a knee. They clock it.
Lavar Arrington
He used to call him. Right. Anyway, it creates a conversation. And in today's culture, today's generation, you can be shaking ice out of a kid's T shirt and making sure his his legs aren't crazy wet and, and brush him off and have a good time with it and everybody's going to talk about it. The littlest things everybody talks about.
Jonas Knox
What are you alluding to?
Lavar Arrington
Is that mj?
Jonas Knox
Oh, is that Jordan? Yeah. Is that what he was doing?
Lavar Arrington
That's what they said. That's, that's. They said because it was so much rain or something like that. And, and then the ice and stuff that was getting poured during the celebration, the kid got like, got doused or got hit, whatever. Anyway, whatever your story is, your story is. But the point I'm saying is, is you put it out there, it gets, if it's something real, it gets consumed. If it gets consumed, it gets distributed, it gets pushed around. Then now all of a sudden something that you thought was a nothing becomes a something. This big conversation ensues and now the Bears say, huh, we, we may have a possibility here. It sounds like he really has a good find relationship with Caleb. If Caleb is good with it, let's try to make it work. Oh, on the, on the Raider side of it, you just fired another coach. Y' all suck. You're, you're very, very, very well represented, supported team. Your fan base has been crazy loyal to you in spite of. You're searching for that next, that next New England Patriots scenario to play out. Maybe it's time to start anew. Maybe this helps you make the decision of we need to move on from Max. Yes. Let's try to leverage it, get as much as we can to get out of it, but in the end, let's unload him and, and let's continue to build for what the future could possibly be. And that would be the reasons why you could see the Raiders, the, the Las Vegas Raiders potentially dealing him. And if you have a suitor that's already out there, then that makes it that much easier.
Jonas Knox
Right?
Lavar Arrington
So I think that that's the reason why you do something like this. No, they don't just do it just to do it. But I think in a situation like this, him outwardly praising Caleb the way that he did, I don't think it was disingenuous. I think it was, was very genuine and I think it was very intentional.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, I mean, I don't think it was disingenuous either. I think there was a lot of, if you go back to the game they played against, you know, Caleb Williams, I think was quoted as saying afterwards, you know, best performance by a defensive player that he's, that he's been against in his life. I mean, Max Crosby was unbelievable in that game. And that was another game that the Raiders look at and go, how'd we lose that one? And the Bears look at and go, how'd we win that one? Well, the Raiders. You lost that one because that's what you do.
Lavar Arrington
You're the Raiders. Yeah, it's like the Browns. There's a couple teams out there. You'd be like, how they lose with that. Did you. Did you not.
Jonas Knox
I gotta tell you, did you not
Lavar Arrington
hear what team they are?
Jonas Knox
You know, it's the most popular slot machine in Las Vegas, according to all of the casino owners and the people that run those places, the Raiders, because people just keep putting money in them and they get nothing in return. So stupid. Hey, go play the Raider slot. Everybody spin the wheel.
Lavar Arrington
Dang.
Jonas Knox
Hey, another L came up. What do you know? But because you always think that next
Lavar Arrington
one's got to be the jackpot. When. When you've lost that long for that much, you always think that the next one's going to be that. That jackpot is big as hell.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, of course they got the car on top. Hey, bro,
Lavar Arrington
they got a picture to a house, shouts out the Red fire. Zillow.
Jonas Knox
But
Lavar Arrington
you got. You could get a 5 million dollar, 10 million dollar.
Jonas Knox
You could like a Lear Jet.
Lavar Arrington
If the Raiders win seven games, you're like John Travolta. You fly right from.
Jonas Knox
So like. But the. On. On Max Crosby. Oh, no. Spin the wheel. Oh, no. You know, it's dead.
Lavar Arrington
I don't have no more money.
Jonas Knox
It's Daniel Carlson getting a kick blocked.
Lavar Arrington
Oh, Dale.
Jonas Knox
But so like, Max Crosby. Yeah, the game was unbelievable. They had a lot of respect for each other. All of that is fair. But the Raiders hold his rights. And last I checked, Max Crosby doesn't have a no trade clause. So whatever podcast he wants to go on and whoever. I'm sure he's got nice things to say about Patrick Mahomes. I'm sure he's got nice things to say about a lot of quarterbacks in the NFL. Josh Allen, et cetera, et cetera. Whoever gives them the best deal. Cause again, reportedly, they don't want to trade him. Whoever's going to give them the best deal is going to be where they send Max Crosby. And it doesn't matter what he wants or how nice he's being. It doesn't matter. It's curling, you know, It's a little weird. Like you're watching on tv, you're just wondering, you know, what those cleaning ladies are doing, but it just. It doesn't matter what he wants. It matters what the Raiders can get in return. So this is all, this is all fun. This is all a great story, but I just find it hard to believe that we can put two and two together and think that these guys are working behind the seeds to make a trade happen. If somebody comes away and blows the Raiders away with an offer, they're not going to give a crap that he likes Caleb Williams and had him on a podcast. They're going to try and get the most legit, as they should.
Lavar Arrington
That's legit. I mean, there's no disputing that. I definitely find that to be a legit, you know, conclusion to draw. But I also think that there's the idea of doing right by players that have done right by you. He has done right by this, this Raiders team, 100%. He's given it his all. He has been one of the most impactful, influential players in our league in the history of the game, in fact. And for him to be in the situation, and I can sympathize with him, believe you me. I mean, it is nothing like.
Jonas Knox
What do you mean?
Lavar Arrington
Wasting good years of your hard, hard work and, and belief.
Jonas Knox
He's unbelievable.
Lavar Arrington
You believe in a team, you believe in the community. You believe in everything that's going on, and they just keep giving you bags of s. And then before you know it, now you're at a point in your career where, which he's really on the way to. I mean, he's not a spring chicken anymore. You're on your way to your better days, slowly getting behind you. And then now where are you at now? You've given all your great years to this organization that just can't get right, and now you're too old to even put yourself in the type of position where you can have impactful conversations about going somewhere and actually being a, a, a real positive contributor to possibly winning that Super Bowl. Like that's what we all want, is to have the chance to win a Super bowl. Play your, your guts out, try to be an All Pro, make Pro Bowls, earn the respect of your peers. Like what the love he gave to Caleb Williams. Get paid along the way, maybe meet somebody who's really nice, get married, maybe you're already married, treat them right, whatever it is, and, and get some super bowl rings and potentially hopefully one day get called to Canton. That's everybody's dream man.
Jonas Knox
Or if you run the mlbpa, hire
Lavar Arrington
her sister, I mean, and get it done that way. You know, dig.
Jonas Knox
Batter up.
Lavar Arrington
I don't see nothing wrong with a little bumping grind.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, so, I mean.
Lavar Arrington
Too soon. Too soon, Dave. You know, R. Kelly's still in jail. I don't know if he's getting out either, but.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, probably not. It seems like.
Lavar Arrington
I mean, parts of that group are still out. They could sing that song, I think. I do think that was a public announcement with R. Kelly, though.
Jonas Knox
Probably the best. Best place for him at this point. Which, by the way, if you're watching, we appreciate. Appreciate you giving us a look on YouTube.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, check us out. We're live. We're live on YouTube, y'.
Jonas Knox
All. Max Crosby is one of my favorite players in the NFL to watch.
Lavar Arrington
Why?
Jonas Knox
Up top. Well, actually, I probably up top. You tell us why.
Lavar Arrington
Tell us why.
Jonas Knox
You can probably claim that one.
Lavar Arrington
Where's it starting? I mean, you're probably right.
Jonas Knox
We're being honest.
Lavar Arrington
You're probably right. I think he had me.
Jonas Knox
Hey, you know what?
Lavar Arrington
I'm as. I'm his brother as it gets. I think. When I met him at the Super Bowl, I thought he had. I think he had me.
Jonas Knox
I'll tell you what.
Lavar Arrington
What?
Jonas Knox
Miles Garrett from Max Cross.
Lavar Arrington
That deal.
Jonas Knox
You saw it right there and you heard it.
Lavar Arrington
I love me some Miles Garrett, though. But, I mean, he. He don't even claim y'. All. He. He's. He claims Asian. He's. He's in the a. He's in the hunt. The Orient.
Jonas Knox
And by the way, if anybody's wondering. Yes, we'll go there. Yes.
Lavar Arrington
Oh, yeah.
Jonas Knox
At any moment, it could go off the rails like that. So best of luck to Max.
Lavar Arrington
We were talking about black and white players, by the way. And Max Crosby, he belongs to us.
Jonas Knox
Racist. The blackie.
Lavar Arrington
And Miles Garrett belongs to Drac. That's. That's what. That's what just happened here. Just in case y' all were not interpreting what we just said.
Jonas Knox
And for those of you wondering, a most famous transaction we've made on the show, when Brady Quinn was here.
Lavar Arrington
Babe Ruth.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, we traded Babe Ruth for Patrick Mahomes.
Lavar Arrington
We gave up Patrick Mahomes.
Jonas Knox
So I feel like that, you know,
Lavar Arrington
we got the Babe, though.
Jonas Knox
That's a great trade. That's a win. Win for everyone.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, it's a win for everyone.
Jonas Knox
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June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing. It's an all out manhunt for John Awjay. Every search and rescue team in LA county has been called in to help. Within days tips started flooding into the sheriff's department. They ruler around the drug scene. Was that a deputy was taken care of. Is this the story of a man who just got lost in the desert? Or of a cover up inside the nation's largest sheriff's department?
Jonas Knox
A homicide captain saying detective, do not find out if this guy's guilty or innocent.
Lavar Arrington
Who does that?
Emily Simpson
Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Do you have any advice for us while looking into this disappearance?
Lavar Arrington
I wouldn't do it alone.
Emily Simpson
Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler. We've got some incredible guests like Kumail Nanjiani. Let's start with your cat. How is she?
Jonas Knox
She is not with us anymore.
Emily Simpson
Okay, great, great, great way to start. So this is a great beginning and hopefully you'll be able to, I don't know, maybe you will cry. Amanda Seyfried Life is so short. If you feel something like that, you have that fire in you for this experience. It's not for a guy. It's for the experience of being in love. And like it's bigger than a guy. Elizabeth Olsen. I love swimming naked so much. And I know you love taking pictures of yourself naked. I love to be naked. I just want to be in my bra underwear all the time. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me? Are you a boy or a girl? Oh my God, all the time. I know. So I'm always like, hi. I try to butch it up for kids, you know, so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up is basically like an angry woman. Doris Day, right? No, I turn into Bea Arthur. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You can accomplish a lot in a decade. You could earn a bachelor's degree and a master's degree back to back. You could compete in two separate consecutive Olympic games. Well, we made my favorite murder. It's been 10 years of true crime, 10 years of conversation, and 100 years of swearing. Here's the thing, everyone. Politeness yourself when someone sneezes. From now on, we have something for everyone. Advice, support, and a safe space for your feelings. This is terrible. Triflers need not apply. Stay out of the forest. You're in a cult. Call your dad. Don't worry, it gets worse. Toxic masculinity ruins the party again. I said, dad, what the hell? What are we. What are we gonna do? And he goes, I don't. What the hell? I don't know. We're gonna sally for it. Taking a Sally fourth. You guys stay sexy. Don't get murdered. Elvis, do you want a cookie? A cookie? Listen to my favorite murder on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Goodbye,
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black and drag.
Lavar Arrington
Get loose.
Jonas Knox
It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Two pros and a cup of Joe sitting in for Dan and the guys. Lavar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here, we will be having something we do called another edition of in case you missed it, coming up here a little over 15 minutes from now. That'll be yours right here on FSR. But you know what? Right now it is time for the tire rack play of the day. Quinn Hughes in overtime wins it and
Lavar Arrington
the United States will move on and take Slovakia in the semis.
Jonas Knox
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Lavar Arrington
Well, all right.
Jonas Knox
Who doesn't love a little playoff hockey?
Lavar Arrington
Gotta love it, man.
Jonas Knox
Little playoff hockey. You got the Americans, they got hockey.
Lavar Arrington
In Happy Valley, they call it Hockey Valley. You know what I mean?
Jonas Knox
That's right.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, baby.
Jonas Knox
By the way, I think it's the first time the US has beaten Sweden since 1960.
Lavar Arrington
It's pretty dope.
Jonas Knox
Nearly gagged the game away. Gave up a goal with about a minute and a half left.
Lavar Arrington
That's all right, but that's competition.
Jonas Knox
We are slowly veering towards what NBC wants more than anything when it comes
Lavar Arrington
to this matchup versus the Soviets.
Jonas Knox
That'd be something.
Lavar Arrington
It's connected. Canada.
Jonas Knox
Oh, yeah. US First, Canada. Now, Sidney Crosby did leave the game.
Lavar Arrington
USSR though. You like that pool?
Jonas Knox
I do. All right. Back in the day. Up top, Nikolai Volkov. Yeah.
Lavar Arrington
Come on, man.
Jonas Knox
Remember him. Absolutely remembering him. And the. And your guy, the iron sheet.
Lavar Arrington
Iron sheet.
Jonas Knox
I know you have to get it in I know you're a big fan of the iron cheeks. Work on radio.
Lavar Arrington
It's really good. It's really good. Rest in peace. The camel clutch, baby. Really good. Some people just have a talent for trash talking. The iron chic is one of them.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, they really do. So the US Is going to get Slovakia in the semis on Friday night. Canada is going to play Finland in the other. It would be who? The hockey gods at NBC to try and get US vs Canada.
Lavar Arrington
Got to try to get it.
Jonas Knox
Look, I can remember watching the US versus Canada game back in. I think it was 2010 and, and it was the game where Sidney Crosby scored the game winner, and it was bananas just how fired up everybody got. Cause, look, you could all have rooting interests for whatever team you want and kind of veer off into whatever directions when everybody's on the same page. Rooting for the US In a standalone big event like that, that's just fun for everybody. And plus, it gives us something to do, you know, on the weekend. We're looking for things to watch and discuss. I know you're a big fan of curling. Just sort of the athleticism it takes.
Lavar Arrington
Oh, I mean, I'm hockey. You know, I'm, I am a curling fan. I mean, the amount of focus, the amount of, of communication, the amount of wiping of the serpent surface, the, the precision that's necessary and needed. I'm all about curling, all right. I really am. Especially women's curling. For some strange reason, I, I kind of like that a little bit more than, than the guys. And, and I'm, I'm a fan of hockey. I really am. Obviously, being from Pittsburgh, you have no choice but to have two very, very strong passions and, and one being hockey outside of football. So to hear that the US Is doing well is, Is awesome. We know how great hockey is in Canada, so to have that as a gold medal round matchup would be pretty, pretty phenomenal. I would, I would assume it'd be must see television if it happens.
Jonas Knox
Yeah. I think that the one problem that, that we have with this stuff because I'm trying to figure out if this is going. So it's. It's 8am Eastern time on Sunday. All right.
Lavar Arrington
Okay.
Jonas Knox
Not great.
Lavar Arrington
That's really early.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, it's early.
Lavar Arrington
That's 5:00am out here.
Jonas Knox
Yeah. And you know, our friends in Hawaii, that's like two or three in the morning.
Emily Simpson
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
You know, so like, they, they've got to walk off, you know, out of a tiki bar and, and try and watch the U Or just stay. Yeah, you just got to stay.
Lavar Arrington
Oh, you got to stay. You got to go ahead and do it.
Jonas Knox
So that's, that's less than ideal, but it would, you know, would lead to.
Lavar Arrington
They play hock Hawaii. Do they have ice rinks? Do they have ice rinks?
Jonas Knox
I don't know.
Lavar Arrington
Is that something that they be into?
Jonas Knox
I'm not sure. You know, I know our friends listening on, you know, in the tiki torch of the Hawaiian islands, Fox Sports 990, you know, maybe somebody listening has the answer to that, but I'm not quite sure. I just, I think that with the Winter Olympics, it's fun. It, it's, it's a, it's a fun ride to watch these random events at random times during the day, but it's kind of like bowl season to where it's really cool to watch the 99 cent store on a Tuesday, a 99 cent store bowl on a Tuesday at, at noon, randomly during the holiday season. And then at a certain point you just get to where you're like, all right, can we get to the, get to the, to the big events? Like, this is all awesome and it's great to have these matinee football games. It's great to have these. But let's get to the, let's get to the real deal here. And I feel like the, is hockey to where it's sort of separating itself to where it's got recognizable names that you're going to look at and go, all right, that's somebody we're going to watch potentially in the regular season after this is all said and done. And so if we could land ourselves on U.S. canada in the gold medal game, apologies to Slovakia and anybody else that could get in the way. If we could just land that on Sunday and give people something to wake up to, to get fired up for. I think that's the, the best conclusion for all this stuff here.
Lavar Arrington
You know, I don't, I don't, I don't have a, I don't have a valid argument or, you know, kind of come back to, to say why it wouldn't be. You know, I think the U. S obviously our voting interest is wanting to have the US in it, would you say? I mean, without having the numbers in front of me, you would say that the most players in the NHL are from Canada and the United States?
Jonas Knox
Well, I don't, I don't know about that. As far as far as bullets go, I'm not sure, but that is kind of a, kind of an interesting dynamic And I know you played in a couple of different Pro Bowls. You played in three Pro Bowls, like, to, to the idea of going from. Because there's been a lot of conversation about the NBA All Star game and whatever you called those team names, they rolled out with. As we talked about on our show, the. The Pro bowl is the worst. It's absolutely awful. We were there in San Francisco during Super bowl week, watching it on television. It looked like they dropped really good football players in a claw machine and people were just trying to move them around. It was weird. Like you just like everyone's moving it around with the joystick and it didn't make any sense and it didn't look like football. But that's what the Pro bowl was. But I do wonder what the dynamic is like, because in the Pro bowl when you were playing, that was the last game of the season. Correct. Like that was after the Super Bowl.
Lavar Arrington
Yes, right. Immediately after. And yes, I was correct. The Canada actually holds the largest number percentage wise of players in the NHL and the United States at 40, 40, 42% of the league. And then the United States follows with a roughly 28 to 29. There we go, Sweden being in third.
Jonas Knox
Now the one problem for Canada is they can't get a Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup. They came close, but you know, they're. They came very close. They did close, just not, not close enough. But. So when you were playing in the Pro bowl, that was the last game of the year, right? So after that game, it's not like you had to team up with these guys again.
Lavar Arrington
No, that's it.
Jonas Knox
With the Olympics, you've got to continue the last part of the regular season. And so how do you just flip the switch from hey, these are rivals, now they're teammates to now they're rivals again. And you go back to your teammates
Lavar Arrington
like, well, those are extraordinary circumstances. Right. Like, if you think about it, I, I think that it would be a welcomed vacation away from the regular season grind, because it is a grind, especially
Jonas Knox
that Olympic village from what we've heard.
Lavar Arrington
I mean, autumn rubbers didn't been used. 10, 000 rubbers, good God sent over there, prophylactics for safe sex gone out of there. And. And they're promising to have delivered more, which means that it's just all kinds of. I don't see nothing wrong.
Jonas Knox
I mean, I pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers. Like, you know how many with a little bumping grind, you know how many sea animals are walking around with one of those Things on their head now because somebody threw it in a lake. Italy. It's crazy. People are worried about plastic straws and turtles. How about the fact that that thing's just swimming around with a rubber on his face? Hey, hey.
Lavar Arrington
Mommy, look at the duck. Look at the duck. Look at the. Look at the seagull. Mommy, look at.
Jonas Knox
What, What.
Lavar Arrington
What is. Look away, honey. Mommy, look away.
Jonas Knox
Mommy. Why does that seagull look like he's about to rob a bank? But what is that?
Lavar Arrington
What is that Pelican giving birth to? What is that?
Jonas Knox
But yeah, I can imagine. You know, the, the break in the middle of the season is fun, but these are like, these are hard games, so. And I can. I could also understand why some owners would not maybe want the players to participate in this in the middle of the season. If I was owning an NH NH NHL franchise, I probably wouldn't want to send my players off to go chase their Olympic dreams.
Lavar Arrington
By now, they, they know that that's a part of it. By now the. The owners have a firm grasp and hold of understanding that this is a part of it.
Jonas Knox
Okay, if Sydney Crosby is affected. Well, well, he. So he had a lower body injury. He left the game yesterday. You know, they're trying, but it's hockey. Lower body injury could be. You know, the guy got, you know, severed at the hip, you know, by,
Lavar Arrington
you know, by a. Yeah, by a blade.
Jonas Knox
Like he fell on, you know, on a tractor. And they're like, ah, it's a lower body injury. Should be available next game. But if he's impacted the rest of the season, the Penguins are much better than anybody thought they would be this year. They thought it was, you know, rebuild. We got to close it up. Crosby, Malkin, Latang, all these guys got a great names. And then now all of a sudden they're in the mix.
Lavar Arrington
Do you put Malkin and, and Crosby on Lemieux and, and, And Jager, do you put them on that level? They're pretty high.
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
Lavar Arrington
Not as many Stanley Cups.
Jonas Knox
No, they do because Crosby and Malkin have three and Yaman and.
Lavar Arrington
And I thought they had three.
Jonas Knox
No, they had 91 and 92. Oh, yeah.
Lavar Arrington
Lemieux had way more than two, though.
Jonas Knox
He had finished with two.
Lavar Arrington
Only two?
Jonas Knox
Yeah. Well, listen, he got the. He had. He got sick and he left. And a lot of people think, you know, if that didn't impede him, he would have been the greatest. There's still. Some people think Lemieux the greatest player of all time.
Emily Simpson
Time.
Jonas Knox
Like still some.
Lavar Arrington
Who, who is the greatest. Is it Gretzky?
Jonas Knox
Gretzky. Okay. Yeah. I mean, he had every number, but, you know, until.
Lavar Arrington
He's a bad mother.
Jonas Knox
He's awesome. Awesome. And that was back in the day.
Lavar Arrington
Is. Is. Is Sid the kid and. And ovi. Are they a better duo in tandem for this era of. Of hockey than Lemieux and Gretzky?
Jonas Knox
I. I don't.
Lavar Arrington
I. I don't think you could say no, even if you can't fix your face to say yes.
Jonas Knox
But. But it is. It is. You mentioned the. The two stars for the Penguins. It is kind of wild that they had it then and they've got it now and have had it for all.
Lavar Arrington
But that's what we are as Pittsburgh. We. We have this weird ability to recreate.
Jonas Knox
It's kind of like Green Bay with quarterbacks.
Lavar Arrington
It's like. Like Green Bay with quarterbacks.
Jonas Knox
Like, you just, like. They just do it better. It's like the Bears with linebackers. They just do it better.
Lavar Arrington
Steelers with linebackers.
Jonas Knox
Come on, come on, come on.
Lavar Arrington
I mean, y' all had Buckus and Erlacher. Who else? I mean, I know Briggs and all of them, but I'm saying Mike Singletary. Mike. Mike. Yeah. Hell, yeah.
Jonas Knox
Otis Wilson.
Lavar Arrington
Otis Will. That's safety. Wilbur Marshall, linebacker. Yeah, he's nice, but come on, man. Like the Steel Curtain.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, let me rephrase. Middle linebackers, the Bears have got that unlock, but linebacker tandems, the Steelers with Lloyd and Green. Yeah, they've got that.
Lavar Arrington
Come on.
Jonas Knox
Correction.
Lavar Arrington
Gilden and Joey Porter.
Jonas Knox
Honest mistake.
Lavar Arrington
Joey Porter and James Harrison.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, honest mistake. I would. You mentioned Lance Briggs. He doesn't get enough credit.
Lavar Arrington
He does not get enough credit. Credit. In fact, I think he had. I think he had a Hall of Fame career.
Jonas Knox
He's unbelievable.
Lavar Arrington
Should get into the Hall.
Jonas Knox
Him and Peanut Tillman. You can argue hall of Fame career.
Lavar Arrington
Sure.
Jonas Knox
Yeah. But. Absolutely.
Lavar Arrington
But digressing, I think it is a welcomed getaway from the. The. The monotony of being in a season that has so many games. You get an opportunity to represent your homeland. You get the opportunity to be in Olympic Village as a professional, even though you're doing, in some cases, what would be considered to be amateurism in competition and being in the worlds, even though that's just something for us as the United States. Well, up until not too long ago. But I think that they. They enjoy it. I think it's a good getaway. And then you come back in and, man, like, you can share stories about what you're experiencing. They're probably Hanging out together out there, stuff like that.
Emily Simpson
Like.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, so, you know, that's, I, I think that it's, it's okay. And I think that the owners don't have such a, a hard stance on wanting them to be a part of it because it's, it's good for them too. Them having success there is good for business for them, you know, with their franchises back here.
Jonas Knox
I would imagine you being a multiple time pro Bowler, going to Hawaii all those years that you know, some of those stories you don't share when you come back.
Lavar Arrington
Why not? Just depending on who you share them with. Hey, some people get to hear it all. I mean, well, maybe not all of it.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, they sure do.
Lavar Arrington
I don't know.
Jonas Knox
It is, I wouldn't know.
Lavar Arrington
I just went to the Pro bowl, sat by the pool and, and then went and played in the game and came back home. Like that was real. As a Bluetooth commercial pops up.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, that is, that's perfect. It is.
Lavar Arrington
Remind me of myself, the Dan Patrick
Jonas Knox
show here on fox sports radio. LeBron.
Lavar Arrington
That a time where I didn't need Blue ch by the way, y', all, I ain't need Blue Chew back in the day when I was going to pro bowls, but I need them now. And make sure you get a hold of some Blue Chews.
Jonas Knox
And, and while you're grabbing that, why don't you stick around because we have another edition of in case you missed it and it's yours right here on fsr. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Emily Simpson
June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing. It's an all out manhunt for John awj. Every search and rescue team in LA county has been called in to help. Within days tips started flooding into the sheriff's department. They rumor around the drug scene was that a deputy was taken care of. Is this the story of a man who just got lost in the desert. Or of a cover up inside the nation's largest sheriff's department.
Jonas Knox
A homicide captain saying, detective, do not find out if this guy's guilty or innocent. Who does that?
Emily Simpson
Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Do you have any advice for us while looking into this disappearance?
Lavar Arrington
I wouldn't do it alone.
Emily Simpson
Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler. We've got some incredible guests, like Kumail Nanjiani. Let's start with your cat. How is she?
Jonas Knox
She is not with us anymore.
Emily Simpson
Okay, great, great, great. Way to start. So this is a great beginning and hopefully you'll be able to.
Jonas Knox
I.
Emily Simpson
Maybe you will cry. Amanda Seyfried. Life is so short. If you feel something like that, you have that fire in you for this experience. It's not for a guy. It's for the experience of being in love. And, like, it's bigger than a guy. Elizabeth Olsen. I love swimming naked so much. And I know you love taking pictures of yourself. I love to be naked. I just want to be in my brown underwear all the time. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me? Are you a boy or a girl? Oh, my God. All the time. I know. So I'm always like, hi. I try to butch it up for kids, you know, so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up is basically like an angry woman. Doris Day, right? No, I turn into Bea Arthur. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can accomplish a lot in a decade. You could earn a bachelor's degree and a master's degree back to back. You could compete in two separate consecutive Olympic Games. Well, we made my favorite murder. I said spent 10 years of true crime, 10 years of conversation, and 100 years of swearing. Here's the thing, everyone. Politeness. Go yourself as much. Say when someone sneezes. From now on, we have something for everyone. Advice, support, and a safe space for your feelings. This is terrible. Keep going. Triflers need not apply. Stay out of the forest. You're in a cult. Call your dad. Don't worry, it gets worse. Toxic masculinity ruins the party again. I said, dad, what the hell? What are we gonna do? And he goes, I don't. What the hell? I don't know. We're gonna sally forth, Sally. We're gonna sally forth. You guys stay sexy. Don't get murdered. Elvis, do you want a cookie? A cookie? Listen to my favorite murder on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Goodbye. Hey, everyone. It's Emily Simpson and Shane Simpson from the Legally Brunette podcast.
Jonas Knox
Each week we're bringing you true crime through a legal lens.
Emily Simpson
Whether you want all the facts on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie or you still need to wrap your head around the Diddy verdict, we're breaking it all down step by step.
Jonas Knox
And we're not just lawyers. We're also husband and wife. It makes for some pretty entertaining episodes.
Emily Simpson
Listen to Legally brunette on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jonas Knox
It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Lavar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys coming up top of next hour. We're going to call it a little over 10 minutes from now. We're going to tell you about somebody who took a job in the NFL and clearly doesn't know the people they'll be working with. Clear evidence of that. That'll be yours again, top of next hour. A little over 10 minutes from now. Before we get to something we do on our show called in case you missed it, want to make sure to let you know to check out our brand new YouTube channel for the show and go there right now. We are live. Just search 2pro FSR on YouTube again. That's 2pro FSR. Be sure to hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up icon and comment away. Let us know who on the show you agree with, who you think is wrong. But check out our new channel on YouTube again, just search two pros FSR and Subscribe. Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of sports or entertainment.
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Jonas Knox
bring you in case you missed it. And for that, we turn it over to our executive producer, the one and only Patrick Suica. Patty, speak.
Lavar Arrington
Jonas. Dang.
Jonas Knox
Oh, dang.
Lavar Arrington
What's up, guys? I got him in the box. I'm in the box.
Jonas Knox
Let's go.
Lavar Arrington
Dang.
Jonas Knox
Let's go. Dang. Well, it's time for in case you missed it, boys.
Lavar Arrington
This is my nightmare. Well, you know what we said this is my nightmare. This is my nightmare because this is my in case you missed it, my Seahawks are formally and have now announced that they're gonna be selling.
Jonas Knox
Well, it's Patty's in the box.
Lavar Arrington
I'm in the bo. I mean, what best time. What better time to.
Jonas Knox
Seahawks are in the box, too, so. Yeah. So, Seattle, this is official, right?
Lavar Arrington
This is important. It has formally been announced that they
Jonas Knox
are in the process of selling the team.
Lavar Arrington
The estate of Paul G. Allen is reportedly expected to fetch a, and I quote, record breaking price for an NFL franchise. Oh, wow. So it's in the seven, eight billions then. They're projecting it to go in seven and eight, Bill.
Jonas Knox
It would top the numbers up.
Lavar Arrington
Those are rookie numbers they're currently going to top. Top the 6.05 bill the commanders previously had. Yeah. Wow.
Jonas Knox
7 to 8 mil is what we're looking at here, guys. And if we're being honest, Danny had to give up what. Danny Snyder had to give up what, 50 million in fines and punishment?
Lavar Arrington
I mean, give up a hundred million. Who cares? Like, you know how many. Let's see, you know how many more millions you got?
Jonas Knox
You know what he should do just to. Just to be a ball buster, Dan Snyder should put in a bid to buy the Seahawks. That's what he should do.
Lavar Arrington
How do the taxes work? How do the taxes work on a. A acquisition like that? You pay $6 billion. 6.5 billion.
Jonas Knox
I drive a 2006 Tacoma. What do I know?
Lavar Arrington
Yeah. Never mind. Okay, go. Keep moving on. What you got, Patty? All right, you're right. We're right. That's out of our. Yeah, yeah. Let's move on.
Jonas Knox
All right, so I got an Olympic one here.
Lavar Arrington
So we have an Austrian ski jumper named Daniel.
Jonas Knox
Who cares?
Lavar Arrington
Whatever. So the guy's kind of dumb here.
Jonas Knox
He went skiing and he was disqualified
Lavar Arrington
because he had oversized boots.
Jonas Knox
Went.
Lavar Arrington
Which went about. About an inch or so over the projected.
Jonas Knox
What you're supposed to wear for skiing.
Lavar Arrington
Disqualified.
Jonas Knox
What's the problem?
Lavar Arrington
I just don't understand.
Jonas Knox
It's like these fishermen that put little weights inside the fish they catch to win tournaments. Like, how bad do you want it? What are you willing to do to win?
Lavar Arrington
You got to try.
Jonas Knox
Yes.
Lavar Arrington
Some people said, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying to.
Jonas Knox
Now, Lavar, as a guy with giant feet.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah. I'm offended by this story. I'm offended terribly.
Jonas Knox
Kim's mad.
Lavar Arrington
My feet should be able to be left alone. They should be able to fly, too, if you know what I mean.
Jonas Knox
Manu bowl wouldn't even stand next to Lavar.
Lavar Arrington
Catch one of these sneakers in your mouth.
Jonas Knox
Some kind of
Emily Simpson
dang. On June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing.
Jonas Knox
Hey, if they'll kill a cop and bury him, what are they gonna do to me?
Emily Simpson
What really happened to the missing deputy? Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone, it's Emily Simpson and Shane Simpson from the Legally Brunette podcast.
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Each week we're bringing you true crime through a legal lens.
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Whether you want all the facts on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie or you still need to wrap your head around the diddy verdict, we're breaking it all down, down, step by step.
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And we're not just lawyers. We're also husband and wife. It makes for some pretty entertaining episodes.
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Date: February 19, 2026
Hosts: Jonas Knox & Lavar Arrington (Filling in for Dan Patrick)
Network: Fox Sports Radio / iHeartPodcasts
Hour 1 of The Dan Patrick Show, hosted today by Jonas Knox and Lavar Arrington, dives deep into swirling NFL trade rumors surrounding Las Vegas Raiders superstar Maxx Crosby. The conversation explores whether Crosby’s recent public praise for Chicago Bears QB Caleb Williams is a signal of a potential trade to Chicago, or just typical offseason speculation. The hosts also veer into humorous territory, addressing public opinion’s impact on NFL front office decisions, value in blockbuster trades, and the peculiar world of Winter Olympic hockey—all while mixing in their signature banter.
Interpretation:
- Lavar sees Crosby’s remarks as unusually heartfelt and authentic for a star player.
- Jonas notes how NFL fans and media are quick to speculate that such praise signals a potential trade or alliance.
Key Quote (Jonas, 09:15):
"Just because Caleb Williams is on a team that could use some pass rush help... just because [Crosby’s] being nice on a podcast, doesn’t mean the Raiders are going to say, 'Hey, you know what? Upon further review, you guys get along so great, let’s take less of a deal and send you to Chicago.' Nah, man. Raiders are going to be like: ‘Kiss my ass.’"
Jonas reminds listeners that ultimately, “what the player wants doesn’t matter if the front office has leverage.” The Raiders will trade Crosby based on their own interests, not because of public flirtation with Caleb Williams or clever PR moves.
Key Quote (Jonas, 17:40):
"If somebody blows the Raiders away with an offer, they’re not going to care that Crosby likes Caleb Williams. They’re going to try and get the most legit offer, as they should."
Lavar emphasizes the human side: sometimes franchises do try to “do right” by stars who’ve given their best years, but only if it dovetails with their own best interests.
Key Quote (Lavar, 18:17):
"He’s given it his all ... one of the most impactful, influential players... There’s nothing like wasting good years of your hard, hard work and belief. ... That’s what we all want: a chance to win a Super Bowl."
Lavar on the power of rumor (14:22):
"You put it out there, it gets distributed, then all of a sudden, something that was a nothing becomes a something."
Jonas on trade rumors (09:15):
"The Raiders are going to be like: 'Nah, man, kiss my ass.'"
Lavar on veteran frustration (18:17):
"There’s nothing like wasting good years...and now you’re too old to have those impactful conversations about actually winning a Super Bowl."
Comic relief (15:36):
"Hey, go play the Raiders slot. Everybody, spin the wheel. Dang. Another L came up. What do you know?" — Jonas
Tone & Atmosphere:
Comedic, lively, and insightful. Jonas and Lavar blend real football analysis with their own experiences and playful, sometimes edgy, banter. The show is great at both breaking down hard NFL news and keeping it light with sports pop-culture references.
Takeaway:
Despite swirling rumors and PR strategies, star player trades remain a matter of team leverage and market value—not podcast friendliness. The Crosby-to-Chicago speculation is fun fodder but still a remote possibility unless the Raiders are bowled over by a trade offer.
For listeners who missed the episode:
You’ll get a clear, in-depth understanding of the NFL’s rumor mill, the realities behind blockbuster trades, and why not every “bromance” on a podcast leads to an actual player move. Plus, you’ll enjoy the hosts’ comedic chemistry, especially as they jump between football analysis and wild tangents about hockey, slot machines, and even Olympic shenanigans.
Key Segment Quotes with Timestamps can be referenced above for deeper context during re-listening.