Hour 1 – Messi Is Inevitable, Taylor Twellman

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1: “Messi Is Inevitable, Taylor Twellman”

Date: July 8, 2026
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show, iHeartPodcasts & Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode kicks off with Dan Patrick and the crew returning from vacation, live from Lake Tahoe for the American Century celebrity golf event. The heart of the hour is a detailed conversation with soccer analyst Taylor Twellman, focusing on Team USA’s stinging World Cup exit and Lionel Messi’s latest magic act on the world stage. The show weaves together sports insights, playful ribbing, celebrity sightings, and musings about playing at the intersection of sports and pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points

1. American Century Celebrity Golf & Return from Vacation

• [02:49–05:05] The Danettes recap their team dinner at a Lake Tahoe German restaurant and share anecdotes about “boots” of beer and camaraderie.
• Celebrity sightings teased for the tournament: Ray Allen, Vince Carter, Jason & Travis Kelce, Steve Young, Larry the Cable Guy, Rob Riggle.

2. Poll Questions & Banter

• [06:23–08:39] Poll of the day: “Are you more of a lake or ocean person?” The crew debates lake boating vs. ocean boating, with Shark Week references and humorous asides about sunscreen mishaps and golf attire.
• [08:39–10:56] Anticipation for heavy soccer talk, with a focus on Team USA's disappointing World Cup performance. Dan notes Belgium’s long odds but says the U.S. simply wasn’t ready for the big stage.

3. US Soccer & World Cup Reactions

• [10:56–12:41] Discussion on the cyclical American relationship with soccer: “40 million people watch the World Cup and then move on. Our level of care is not consistent.” (<mark>[11:18]</mark>)
• Dan laments the lack of a U.S. ‘superstar,’ comparing it to the national obsession with winning the America’s Cup after losing it, noting, “We don’t have the same passion for soccer because we never had it to get it back.”

4. Messi’s Miraculous Comeback and Impact

• [12:41–13:55] The crew marvels at Messi’s performance: Egypt led Argentina by two with 11 minutes left, only to lose in dramatic fashion. Dan jokes, “Sports radio in Egypt today has got to be… scalding.” (<mark>[12:55]</mark>)
• FIFA and officiating conspiracies enter the mix, Dan noting “rules, but then there are rules that are meant to be broken just a little bit.” (<mark>[13:18]</mark>)

5. World Cup Frequency & Casual Interest

• [14:23–14:53] A debate over whether making the World Cup an annual event would help or hurt interest. Todd quips, “If every day was Hanukkah, it wouldn’t be special.” (<mark>[14:53]</mark>)

6. Taylor Twellman Interview: Deep Dive on U.S. Soccer and Messi

• [25:58–34:43]
  • Team USA’s Performance:
    • Twellman: “The surprise for me is how flat the United States looked five minutes in… the moment was too big.” (<mark>[25:58]</mark>)
    • The big letdown was not just the defeat, but looking unprepared emotionally and mentally.
    • Dan: “It felt like Groundhog Day again… give us a positive, though.”
    • Twellman: “In the way they beat Paraguay tells you it’s there… but are we gonna hang a banner for three first-half goals? … To then be as flat after that is… the toughest thing for me to articulate.” (<mark>[27:24–29:16]</mark>)
  • Christian Pulisic’s World Cup:
    • Twellman: “From January 1st to the World Cup, he had zero goal contributions for Milan… He’s a fantastic player, but everybody on the field against Belgium was not good enough.” (<mark>[29:34–31:16]</mark>)
  • Explaining Soccer Roles via NBA Comparisons:
    • Dan asks if Messi is like a quarterback or point guard.
    • Twellman: “Messi is your quarterback-point guard… he’s a unicorn. If we’re really going to talk about this position, Messi’s up top, everybody else is down below.” (<mark>[31:38]</mark>)
    • On Erling Haaland: “He’s your Shaquille O’Neal. He’s not Kobe Bryant.” (<mark>[31:55]</mark>)
    • Messi as Steph Curry: “Steve Kerr showed the Warriors Barcelona film because they just flowed, just like Messi… Messi’s still tilting the field at 39.” (<mark>[33:25–34:43]</mark>)
  • Memorable Quote:
    • On Messi: “Father Time has knocked on the door, called the house phone, called the cell phone. He hasn’t picked up… and the field is still tilting to him.” – Taylor Twellman (<mark>[34:35]</mark>)

7. American Soccer Culture & International Comparisons

• [35:48–37:48] The crew debates why American soccer can't just “buy” elite talent like college football can buy recruits. The U.S. will have to grow organically, not through international “acquisitions.”
• Paulie: “We can’t use NIL to acquire Mbappe.”

8. Messi’s Legacy and the Egypt Collapse

• [37:48–38:58] Discussion of how Messi is credited for everything, but Argentina was a true team win, especially in overturning Egypt’s lead with only 11 minutes left.

9. Lighter Fare: Inside Jokes, Poll Results, and Miscellany

• [41:12–42:32] Debates over the dramatic soccer goal call (“Goooooaaaallll!”) and its place in soccer culture.
• [42:32–43:28] Best and worst of the weekend calls: Messi’s comeback vs. Team USA’s “Molly whopped” defeat.
• Fun banter on Logan Paul’s hat, sunburn stories, and shorts faux pas.

10. NBA Free Agency, LeBron James Decision Anniversary

• [44:32–46:50] Briefly touches on Lakers signings and LeBron’s pending decision, noting the anniversary of the original “Decision.” Teases a fun game: “How do we find out LeBron joins his next team?”

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Notable Quotes

• On Team USA’s flat performance against Belgium:

  “The surprise for me is how flat the United States looked five minutes in… it felt like the moment was too big.”
  — Taylor Twellman (<mark>[25:58]</mark>)

• On U.S. Soccer’s progress:

  “In the way they beat Paraguay tells you it’s there. … But what bothers all of us… are we gonna hang a banner for three goals in the first half?”
  — Taylor Twellman (<mark>[27:24]</mark>)

• On Messi’s greatness:

  “Father Time has knocked on the door, called the house phone, called the cell phone. He hasn’t picked up… and the field is still tilting to him.”
  — Taylor Twellman (<mark>[34:35]</mark>)

• On the American soccer fan cycle:

  “The casual fans… they watch the World Cup and then move on from soccer for three years and 11 months. Almost like the Olympics.”
  — Dylan (<mark>[11:12]</mark>)

• On World Cup frequency:

  “If every day was Hanukkah, it wouldn’t be special.”
  — Todd (<mark>[14:53]</mark>)

• On Messi vs. Erling Haaland:

  “Haaland is your Shaq, not your Kobe.”
  — Taylor Twellman (<mark>[31:55]</mark>)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:49–05:05] Tahoe dinner, “boots” of beer story, celebrity golf preview
• [08:39–10:56] U.S. loss to Belgium, soccer in American sports culture
• [12:41–13:55] Messi’s miraculous comeback for Argentina against Egypt
• [25:58–34:43] Taylor Twellman interview: U.S. Soccer’s psychological battle, Messi, player comparisons
• [35:48–37:48] Why the U.S. can’t just “buy” a star like college football teams
• [41:12–42:32] “Goooooaaaallll!” debate & fun poll results

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Memorable Moments

• The vivid retelling of a man’s attempt at the “boot of beer” record and the team’s pub night escapades.
• The pure exasperation and gallows humor of American soccer fans after another World Cup disappointment, with Dan noting, “It felt like Groundhog Day again, even though we got to the knockout stage.”
• Taylor Twellman’s NBA analogies to explain elite soccer positions to American sports fans, connecting Messi’s style to Steph Curry’s influence in basketball.
• The running in-joke about Todd’s inner ear infection, hat sunburn, and “wedding cake bet” after being wrong about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce marrying.

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Summary

In this entertaining and incisive hour, Dan Patrick’s show blends the lighthearted (pub food, golf hazards, goofy polls) with the weighty (U.S. Soccer’s existential questions, Messi’s legacy). Taylor Twellman provides expert analysis and resonant metaphors that help American listeners grasp the international game and its heartbreaks. With World Cup fever, celebrity sports, and just a dash of Taylor Swift wedding gossip, the episode exemplifies the show’s unique ability to bridge sports culture and conversation.

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Transcript

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[Paulie]

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[Paulie]

deep in the Jeremy Lin file. My name is MC Gin. Excited to tell you. About last but not least, I'll be chatting with guests from all walks of life about the power of humor when it comes to facing difficult times. These will be conversations that remind us all life is hard. Laugh harder. Listen and laugh. But not least with Mc Gyn on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It's a meet Wednesday. Dylan doing the honors today along with the great folks, direct tech chef Greg. What's the menu? We'll get that out of the way first. Well then it's pub day. Okay? That's the theme. So we got smoked shepherd's pie, smoked bloomin onion. Okay. Pulled beef sandwiches and lemon pepper smoked wings. Okay. Why are we using that voice? Today I'm trying to be dramatic. Oh, okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Did it work?

[Paulie]

Just. Is that your golf voice? That's my golf gymn would be very proud. It's the American century classic and a lot of big names out here. We had a great time last year and our thanks to NBC and peacock for letting us come out and basically take over the place here. We're at the Edgewood country club. Got a chance to play this on Monday with Dylan. We had big day. Ray also Mario, the eyes and ears of the show. So we went out there, you know, we got to play the course, so we're going to be really knowledgeable. When somebody talks about what they hit on 17, uh, hopefully they don't hit what we hit on 17, which was not much of the ball. Dylan. Dylan played great. And then all of a sudden they put a camera on him and I think he hit it maybe past the lady's teeth.

[Dylan]

The.

[Paulie]

The 17th has legitimate beach in the middle of it. Yeah. And I barely reached that section, which was about 15 yards away from. All right, stat of the day brought to you by panini America. The official trading cards of the program. First hour brought to you by tire rack. They've been doing it for over 40 years, helping you find the right tires for how and what and where you drive and ship fast and free. Free road hazard protection. Tire rack.com the way tire buying should be. Play of the day poll question. Stat of the day. We've been gone for a little while, so we will do best and worst of the weekend on this Wednesday. Phone calls. Tyler sitting by 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Taylor Twelman, the great soccer analyst, former USA team player, striker. He will join us coming up a we'll ask about team USA moving forward after a humiliating loss to Belgium. Also recap some of the world cup action. And Messi and crew do it one more time. Brian Baumgartner, our buddy from the office, he played Kevin. He will join us a little bit later on as well. We did go to a restaurant last night. Now right at the base of the mountain here in lake Tahoe. I think it's the Himmel house. And that this was the big German set this up. And we had sausages, we had sauerkraut, we had cabbage, we had beers in boots. I mean, we had it all last night. It was a team building dinner last night.

[Dylan]

Yes, Paulie, there was a mustard caddy, which was your choice of mustards. It was glorious. The der Himmel house was beautiful last night.

[Paulie]

Yeah. And then all of a sudden I didn't realize. Now there's a bar that I think is by Dodger Stadium, or at least there used to be, where you could get a boot of beer. And so when I had the opportunity to get another boot of beer last night, Dylan's the one who put me, you know, onto that. He was like, hey, why don't we get a boot? And I said, okay, what's a boot? He goes, a boot of beer. And then we ran into a guy who was trying to drink five boots of beer in an hour. So that's five liters of beer in an hour. And I guess the house record at the, the Himmel House was 54 minutes. Yes, Paulie.

[Dylan]

Yeah, it was this huge stein, the kind of stein where you needed two hands and muscle to pick it up. Yeah, we did the math. In five liters, that would be like ten and a half pints of beer

[Paulie]

in less than an hour. Yeah, because Ford Timberlake had the record. I don't know when I. Yeah, I saw it on the board.

[Dylan]

That's a name.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Ford Timberlake, he has the record. I don't know when we last left this guy, of course, Fritz, he was flirting with his wife. She was very attractive.

[Todd]

Their anniversary was going to be the next day. So if he got all beat up from the drinking there 14 year anniversary is going to be the next day today.

[Paulie]

Yeah, but, yeah, just fun times last night and. But we're here, ready to go, excited to be back after an extended vacation. Dylan, poll question for the first hour is going to be what we got a couple Dan for. For starters, are you more of a lake or an ocean person? Okay, Did we do this last year?

[Dylan]

Yeah, but it was a. We did about two hours on it.

[Paulie]

Okay, I'm gonna go lake since, you know, I'm a big pontoon guy now. So I, I'd say, like, I like looking at the ocean. I'm okay with being in a lake. So you don't like to take. You like boat on lake? Not boat on ocean. No. Is it the waves? It's a lot of things. Sharks. It just feels. Yeah. It's Shark Week, by the way. Oh, yeah. I hate Shark Week. I. I do.

[Dylan]

Oh, that's un American.

[Paulie]

I, I hate Shark Week because I'm flipping through the channels. I mean, how many shark channels are there? Yes, Todd and the sharks.

[Todd]

According to the nightly news, which I love to watch with our friend Tom Yamas, they're getting closer and closer to the shore. You can just go walk two feet into the water and you can get bit by a shark. It's like right by the sand. That's frightening.

[Paulie]

By the way, you missed a spot on your forehead. I did. When you were supposed. Paulie said, put suntan lotion on and you have your hat on backwards. It's all the cool kids.

[Todd]

I have like a big red. Big red mark.

[Paulie]

Don't let Colin Cowherd see you with your hat on backwards. You can't be a good booker.

[Todd]

It's not. It's not good.

[Paulie]

Yeah, you have a little spot there.

[Todd]

I look like a Peyton Manning when he wears. His helmet's too tight.

[Paulie]

He takes a helmet.

[Dylan]

So, Dan, when you're wearing a snapback hat backwards, there's that little half moon shape. And a bunch of years ago, Fritz, he did this and had a scalding sunburn right in the middle of his forehead. And so I went to him trying to be nice, and I said, fritz, you should put a little sunblock on that spot. Are you going to get that thing again? He goes, why wouldn't I do that? And then he walked away.

[Todd]

I know I didn't get to it right away. It should have been more of a priority. Now it looks kind of stupid.

[Paulie]

All right, so, Dylan, that's one poll question. Do we have anything a little more meaty, juicy? Yep. Well, we're going to also add Rivers to that as well. I'm not a Rivers guy. No, no. Doc Rivers. But that's it. Yeah, Rivers. Phoenix.

[Todd]

Thanks for saying that.

[Paulie]

You like Doc Rivers. You gotta give me 48 today. Come on, Dan, what else do you have? Well, we got obviously some soccer talk. Dan, how disappointed were you by Team USA's performance against Belgium? A lot? A little or not at all? Well, I think I wasn't surprised, put it that way. And we were all watching together in a bar. And like, you know, you root for Team usa, but I think you really have to be practical with this. They're just a better. Belgium is a better team. But to give you an idea, Belgium, their chances of winning the World cup are plus 3,000. Those are the longest odds of all the teams. They're tied with Switzerland, so they didn't get beat by a what is considered a great team. That team played great. France is still your big favorite. Then Spain, Argentina, England, and then it goes down to Norway, Morocco, Switzerland and Belgium. But we'll talk to Taylor Twelveman about this. Of what do we take away from this? Because I think there's. We Tend to, you know, skew to the negative and go, oh, we did it again. We got bounced and we got embarrassed on the world stage. Almost 40 million people watch that soccer match. I don't know if we build off of it, because this is where we've been before in the knockout round. We got to get. We got to get to an elite eight, you know, Final Four. Then it feels like, you know, we're making progress. I. I know that we love this sport. We want to love this sport. We want to be better at this sport. We're just not. Not yet. And if you look at. We don't have Mbappe, we don't have. Well, we don't have Messi, but nobody does Holland. You know, there's. These guys are great, great players, but until we get one of those guys, then it's going to be the curiosity, I think, of how far can we go? Not can we win. We like to win things. Remember, we didn't care about the America's cup until we lost the America's Cup. And we're like, damn it, we're going down under and bringing it back. We didn't know it's a bunch of rich people in yachts. Like, we're going, we got to get it back. You know, we don't have the same passion towards soccer because we never had it to get it back. Yeah, Paulie, it feels like one of

[Dylan]

those things where the hardcore soccer fan, they follow the sport, they follow the USA team for four years, all the qualifying, but the casual fans, those 30 million, 40 million you mentioned the other day, they watch the World cup and then they move on from soccer for three years and 11 months. Almost like the Olympics. Like, I love swimming in the Olympics. I don't follow swimming for the next three and then three and a half years.

[Paulie]

It's.

[Dylan]

It's not a niche word. It's not the right word, but our level of care is not. It's not consistent.

[Paulie]

Yeah, but that's why now, if it was every year, then maybe we would follow it for far more religiously than we do. You know, curling, in the Olympics, we're all in on curling. When's the last time you said, man, I haven't watched a curling match in a while. Kids, let's go see some curling matches. But watching the soccer, the passion is what I love. When you see what it means to other countries, that's the. That's the joy that I get. The entertainment I get is like, damn, this is like, you see Messi crying on the pitch like it means that much. This is his last one. Ronaldo's gone from World cup play. You're seeing these younger players under the age of 30, and they're producing, too. That's another thing. When you tune in, you go, okay, who's the good guy? Who's the guy I want to see? And I remember when I took my wife to a Stanley cup final, Philadelphia against Edmonton with Wayne Gretzky, and she goes, who's, who's the, where's the great one? And I said, that guy? She goes, the little guy? And I go, yes, watch him. And, you know, by the end of this, you know, hockey game, she's like, I think I kind of get it. But you can watch soccer. And you go, I don't know who's great in this World Cup. You know who's great. Yeah, Paulie.

[Dylan]

Like last night against Egypt, it felt like Messi was inevitable. He was, you know, he didn't have a great game up until the end where he got that goal. But, you know, Egypt had that lead that I don't know if that's 28,3ish. What Egypt had up two on the defending champions.

[Paulie]

11 minutes to go.

[Dylan]

11 minutes to go, and they give up three goals. That sports radio in Egypt today has got to be.

[Paulie]

Oh, scalding. Yeah. Johnny in the pyramid. Yeah. They're probably, you know, chopping this up.

[Dylan]

All the pyramids are the Danets.

[Paulie]

Yes. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah, Johnny. And the pyramids. What do you think? Thank you, Todd.

[Todd]

Got a lot of affiliates. Don't be jealous.

[Dylan]

They have a lot of money and the pyramids.

[Paulie]

I'm so mad about the defense yesterday. I think their coach, though, did call out FIFA governing Barty, saying that they might have had an agenda to keep Messi in the World Cup. Look, I, I, the amazing part is people are surprised that this could be political. I mean, it's, yeah. You know, Cutter has to tell people, hey, we're going to host the World Cup. It's 120 in the shade, but we got to play at night where we're going to give you a boatload of money. Okay. Like, you know, there's rules, but then there are rules that are meant to be broken just a little bit.

[Dylan]

The Winter Olympics in Jamaica.

[Paulie]

Yeah. You're like, the president's involved and how involved? And he's not involved, but he was involved. Good stuff. Yes. Dylan. It's just crazy to hear FIFA and corruption anywhere near the same sentence. You know, you might as well put IOC in there as well. Any other poll questions here for the first hour? We'll get to phone calls coming up as well. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. A lot of luminaries here. Big time celebrities here. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, I have a question. Would you. Because you mentioned the World cup, with the interest level one year versus every four years, would the average casual soccer fan be more or less interested in the World Cup? Was. I think they'd be less interested. Was every year a big reason why I tuned into the World cup and I don't really care for soccer and the lack of scoring and the flopping and everything was because this is a big deal. They only do it once every four years, just like the Olympics. I wouldn't, certainly wouldn't care as much if every year there was an Olympic Games.

[Paulie]

Thank you. Yes, yes. Still, if every day was Hanukkah, it wouldn't be special.

[Todd]

Valid point.

[Paulie]

But if every day was Christmas, same thing. Right, Tom?

[Todd]

But every day is a Super bowl to me.

[Paulie]

To me it is. Because you like to take days off.

[Todd]

I don't like to take days off. Sometimes I have a medical emergency.

[Paulie]

Oh, my God. Okay. I haven't seen Todd in 10 days. I see him, he goes, I might as well get this out of the way first. I go, what now? He goes, inner ear infection. Almost couldn't fly. And I said, well, you're still getting hit with a wedding cake because we made the bet that you said Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift would not get married. You did not believe in love.

[Todd]

I thought they were going to be partners like Oprah and Steadman. They did get married. It was gonna be after we're all off the air and the shows.

[Paulie]

So we do have a wedding cake that I guess somebody's gonna smash you with that later today.

[Todd]

For the middle and right side of my face.

[Paulie]

Yeah. So Todd goes, just don't hit me in the left ear. I go, we're gonna hit you in the face.

[Todd]

They scared me a little bit at the doctor. As neurotic as I am, I guess they didn't understand. I need some bedside manner. It's like, you know, if you fly, your eardrum can rupture.

[Paulie]

Okay, but you did fly. You did fly.

[Todd]

But I was. I was told that they advised against me flying.

[Paulie]

Okay. And then you tell me about some finger issue.

[Todd]

Yes. I have a little bump on my index finger on my right hand, which I thought the dermatologist was going to be able to just freeze like a water assist. She sent Me to a hand specialist on Monday, August 31. I can't join you guys because the surgeon only does morning surgeries, and he's got to do a surgical procedure to get this thing off my finger.

[Paulie]

Is it surgery or is it a procedure?

[Todd]

I think it's a procedure, but to listen to the dermatologist when she sent me to a surgical place.

[Paulie]

Place, by the way. And this is when I. I. First thing I hear when I see Todd, not, hey, how you doing? How was vacation? He's like, might as well get it out of the way. Inner ear infection. And I've got this blemish. And the finger is on your middle finger?

[Todd]

Middle finger of my right hand.

[Paulie]

So Todd flips me. He's showing me this. He goes, I don't mean to do this, but I'm just showing you. So you've got some surgery coming up.

[Todd]

And then eventually I got around saying, so how was your vacation? I know you got. Your daughter's getting married next month, but enough about you got this thing on my finger.

[Paulie]

Yes.

[Dylan]

Paul, you know, we may have buried the lead about the Taylor Swift Kelce wedding. A lot of luminaries were there, and we have multiple reports that Ross Tucker and his wife were present at the wedding.

[Paulie]

Wow.

[Dylan]

I don't. That's not confirmed, but a lot of people saying it's true.

[Paulie]

But he's from Taylor Swift's hometown.

[Dylan]

I think it's Wyo. Missing. Pennsylvania.

[Paulie]

Yeah. I think he's from the same hometown.

[Dylan]

Yeah. But he's a. He is show adjacent. It's like our show is partially invited.

[Paulie]

Yeah. And I know a lot of people want to know if I was invited, and I wasn't. But you know what? I didn't have a connection to them other than, you know, Kelsey went to University of Cincinnati. I'm from Cincinnati. He's been on the show many times. He knows I love, love Taylor Swift. I have a sweatshirt I don't know, not far from New York City. He could have gotten there, but. No, it's okay. You know, the reason why I didn't want to go is I didn't know what to get them for a wedding gift, and that would have been really awkward. But I was thinking maybe some DP show gear. You know, just something like that. Maybe some tailgate moonshine. We got some inventory we had to clear out here. All right. Okay, we're back. Kind of, but we're. Come on, let's go. Let's get fired up here. Look at the sun behind us here. If you're watching on peacock golf claps out here. Okay, let's go, let's go, let's go. All right, we'll talk some soccer coming up next. Back after this. From Tahoe, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

I can make a brain for you and then we can test what drug

[Dan Patrick]

is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain. Here are some hard truths that I would explain. Expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration and get myself into a world of trouble.

[Paulie]

I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work to make you look more defined.

[Dan Patrick]

They say it works.

[Paulie]

I don't know.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

The Declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered, you know, sentences and paragraphs about enlightenment ideals, does also have this darker history to it. Why is it important for the darker part of the Declaration of Independence and the American Revolution? Why is it important that Americans know about it? Well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagle. Gohin Tawa Don Chalai Kayatli. Que la citizen of Cherokee Nation. Are you guys big Chiefs fans? Hell yeah. This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to

[Dylan]

be and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the iHeartRadio

[Dan Patrick]

app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Paulie]

Quite a guest list here, Paula. You want to run down some of the luminaries at the American Century?

[Dylan]

Yeah, a lot of guys golfing. Roger Clemens, Alex Caruso. He was here last year. Derek Carton Brown, Jay Billis, Jerome Bettis, Charles Barkley, Nate Bargetzi. Ray Allen. Okay, real quick, celebrity sighting. I'm spoiling my own celebrity sighting.

[Paulie]

Ray Allen.

[Dylan]

Ray Allen is right. I was at the airport the other day. Our flight, Ray and I, in that order. Our flight got delayed five hours and we were like scrambling and I went up and said, I introduced myself quickly. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah. I go, we're in a jam. I go, he's like, we're in a jam. And he. We both broke and went different directions and did find flights out here.

[Paulie]

Okay.

[Dylan]

But he said hello. Okay. Yeah, that's. But Vince Carter, maybe.

[Paulie]

I think Vince is going to stop by.

[Dylan]

That's cool.

[Paulie]

I think Austin Reeves is going to stop by as well. Yeah. So there's, there's a, Like, I don't know how many celebrities, 80 celebrities, something like that.

[Dylan]

Steve Young is going to be here.

[Paulie]

I don't know if Steve Young. How does he go? I didn't know that. Is Aaron Rodgers here?

[Dylan]

I don't have him on the list. I think he's got another commitment. He's usually here.

[Paulie]

Okay.

[Dylan]

Trevor Lawrence. Speaking of Lawrence. Lawrence. Larry the Cable Guy.

[Paulie]

Oh, Larry the Cable Guy.

[Dylan]

What a run.

[Paulie]

I saw Rob Riggle. Who else is.

[Dylan]

I got Jason Kelsey in the rundown.

[Paulie]

I heard that he was going to be here. Yeah, see, this is when I knew when Travis Kelsey was going to get married, because I was trying to figure out. I go, okay, let me see if I can find out somebody who can tell me what the guest list is. And then all of a sudden, I go, oh, I got a preliminary guest. Listen. Wait a minute. No, Jason Kelsey. He's getting married the week before, and then that way his brother can go to the wedding, and then he's obviously, you know, done with the wedding festivities, in his duties, his best man. So he would be out here. Travis. I don't know where he is, but hopefully he'll be able to see the video of Todd getting smashed with a wedding cake because he didn't believe that this. You guys thought this was a publicity stunt? You and Seaton did.

[Todd]

I thought it was somewhat a publicity stunt, but they're so popular. Especially Taylor Swift doesn't need extra publicity. I just thought it was gonna be one of those, maybe we're too big to actually, you know, exchange vows and do the ring things. We're gonna do the we're super fantastic people, and we're just gonna be together. We're partners. We don't need to say we're married and be husband and wife. That's what I thought.

[Paulie]

Maybe they're old school.

[Todd]

I like that.

[Paulie]

Maybe they're traditional.

[Todd]

I'm happy that they got married, but I didn't think they would.

[Paulie]

Okay, but can you imagine if you go back to, let's see, 2009. I go back to 2009. Travis and Jason Kelsey playing football at Cincinnati. If I would have said to them, hey, Travis, by the way, you're going to be one of the greatest tight ends of all time, and you'll marry one of the biggest, most important people in the world. Biggest pop star in the world. And Jason Kelsey will be a finalist for People magazine. Sexiest Man Alive. Yeah. And a hall of famer at that. Go figure. All right, Taylor Twelman joined us yesterday as we got here early, so in case we needed to tape some interviews due to the scheduling Here. And Taylor finished with his practice round and then joined us here on our set in Lake Tahoe. And I got a chance to talk to him about the World cup. And I started off by asking him, how surprised should we be? What happened to Team usa?

[Dan Patrick]

The results stinks. The surprise for me is the how flat the United States looked five minutes in. I was watching with Marty Fish and his family. I looked at Marty and I said, I. I can't believe how sluggish they are. Like, it felt like the moment was too big. And that surprised the heck out of me. That is the biggest surprise. So to answer your question, the results, take it for what it is. You could lose two one and literally honorably sit there and say, they scored a great goal. It happens that. That's the sport. Look at what Argentina did against Egypt. Right? So that happens. That's messy. Miss Penalties. Stuff happens in sports. But the attitude, the energy level, the being overwhelmed in the moments, Dan, my word, that that is going to be. I don't know if they ever swallowed that pill.

[Paulie]

The thing that worried me is we get this far and then we get humiliated.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paulie]

We got embarrassed.

[Todd]

Yep.

[Paulie]

And then I worry that it's, you know, the reaction is going to be the same. Oh, we can't compete on the big stage. You know, we don't have the firepower. You know, all of the things that these, These tropes that we've been saying over and over and over and over for decades, it felt like Groundhog's Day again, even though we got to the knockout stage, give us a positive, though, that. That we should be taking away from this.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'm actually glad you phrased it that way because it's honestly exactly why I feel sick to my stomach still.

[Paulie]

Right.

[Dan Patrick]

Because the general public that I am trying to embrace, because I think some part of soccer media's issue is we're so inclusive, and we. If you don't say the right words in the right terms, we shun you away. In order to really grow this, you don't need to do that. So everyone's saying the same thing. Well, we lost to Belgium, of course, round of 16. We always lose in the rounds of 16. And this is what happens, the game against Paraguay. And remember you had me on earlier in the World cup and I said quarterfinals or bust. I'd still be sitting here if they lost two one saying that it was, quote, a bust. The positive, the barometer, the way the potential is. The word I would use, guys, is the way they beat Paraguay tells you it's there. And I think the general public needs to understand this. In World cup qualifying in South America, that is Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Uruguay, Bolivia, in altitude, Paraguay gave up six goals. That's only the only six. So to score three goals in the first half against them, that tells you it's there. But what bothers all of us, ex players, anyone that's within the ecosystem. So what are we gonna do? Hang a banner for three goals in the first half? You know what I'm like. I say that tongue in cheek, but I also say that like, come on, come on. In the way the Bosnia game went, I was so proud of how the team said, this is gonna get ugly, it's gonna get scrappy, and this group did it. To then be as flat after that is. That's the toughest thing for me to sit here and honestly try to articulate how I feel and how they feel.

[Paulie]

Taylor Twelveman, Apple TV lead soccer analyst five time all star. With the New England Revolution, they turn quickly on Christian Pulisic. I know it didn't take long for social media injury, like, I don't know. Do you put an asterisk by this?

[Dan Patrick]

Listen, Christian's a fantastic player and I still think he's always going to be in the conversation for the best player ever. But you can't be, you can't be naive and not remember that from January 1st to the World cup, he had zero goal contributions for Milan. Before that, I just want everyone that's listening to know. July 27, 2025 to January 1, 2026, he was second in gold contributions in Syria and then literally saw ghost. Because a player of his caliber, you can get assists. Someone like myself, I only scored goals. I wasn't anything else. I wasn't anywhere near that. So he's not just a goal scorer. I need the general public to understand. But he's, he's the playmaker. He does things that other players can't. He's your guy for the United states. However, from January 1, 2026 to the beginning of World cup camp, before the Senegal game, he had zero goal contributions. So if anyone's a little surprised that he struggled in this World cup, well, he didn't read the tea leaves. But then Senegal came and he was really good. And then Germany came and he was solid. And then the first 45 minutes against Paraguay, I was like, hang on a minute. And then he's injured. So there's no asterisk. Dan, it's a long winded answer to your question. There's no Asterisk, he is. This is when you're put on the pedestal and everyone remembers the bigger moments. Absolutely. But I need this to be said. Everybody on the field against Belgium was not good enough. It wasn't because Pulisic didn't do anything. Attacking third, they were all not good enough.

[Paulie]

And you being a goal scorer, I've always wondered if I was going to look at the attributes of a quarterback or a point guard like you. You have to see things before other people's. Like, Messi, is he a quarter. Does he have to be a quarterback in how he sees the field? Is he a point guard? And Howie, because you gotta. You gotta see something before it happens.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, I. I would say so. Messi is your quarterback point guard. So he's the metronome by everything that plays through him. He's also a unicorn, so we need to make that abundantly clear. Like, if we're really going to talk about this position, Messi's up top and everybody like Holland.

[Paulie]

And Holland's a goal scorer.

[Dan Patrick]

Here's one for you. Erling Holland is Carl Malone. He's not John Stockton. He's not. Because Erling Holland, he doesn't need 7580 touches. If you look at the last three games, it's under 40 touches or something. And he just hangs out, but he finishes plays. He's your Shaquille o'. Neal. He's not Kobe Bryant. Right. He's not. The point guard is your quote, unquote, in our sport, the playmaker that sees everything. Now, it's a little different because the quarterback has everything in front of him.

[Todd]

Right.

[Dan Patrick]

In soccer, it's 360. So you got to be aware of what's behind you, what's not. And that's why Messi is so unique and different, because he plays further up the field, yet he's got eyes behind his head. He sees different things. Pulisic is your in. In basketball terms, he's. He's your two. He's your two.

[Paulie]

But Mbappe is Mike Holland.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paulie]

Yep.

[Dan Patrick]

He's not a point guard. He's. He's not. He's not messy.

[Paulie]

Messi scores, though.

[Dan Patrick]

That's why he's a unicorn.

[Paulie]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, it's a. In basketball terms, it's a triple double, but he leads the league in points scored, where you're like, wait a minute. How's that possible?

[Todd]

Wait a minute.

[Paulie]

Like, is he Steph Curry?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that's a better analogy. For me. That's a better analogy because he can

[Paulie]

do Steph Never stops running, always movement, always. And you constantly say the same thing. How the hell is he doing that? Yes. Against those guys. Because Messi's not biggest, fastest, strongest. There's no.

[Dan Patrick]

And Dan, that's such a great analogy because Steve Kerr showed the warriors in their heyday Barcelona film. He showed Barcelona film of when Messi was there because they technically.

[Paulie]

You better credit me with that.

[Dan Patrick]

Absolutely.

[Paulie]

Sure.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, with my concussion problems, I'm gonna forget 10 minutes anyway, so it doesn't matter. But the truth of the matter is, like Steve Kerr said, look, they're playing positions within our system. They're not defined. And remember when those warriors teams were so good, they didn't play with the definitive five. Their four wasn't a definitive four. They were just free flowing. It's a great analogy because I do think, and I don't know if Steph's ever said this, I would love to. I wonder if Steph watched those tapes and said, huh, look at what Messi's doing. He's going where the ball isn't. So the ball ends up coming to him. And you guys know this way better than me. In basketball, the court tilts and flips when Curry's on the field. Messi is 39 years old. Father Time is knocked on the door. It's called the house phone. It's called the cell phone. He hasn't picked up and the field is still tilting to him. He missed a penalty kick against Egypt and he still wins the game. It's, it's unheard of.

[Paulie]

Good to talk to you.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you.

[Paulie]

I'd love to be here. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

[Dan Patrick]

Would you guys lose a bet to have me on the show?

[Paulie]

No. No. Win or lose, Team usa, we were having you on. Right, Paul, we did a whole text

[Dylan]

chain yesterday about how we had to get you here today.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you really?

[Paulie]

Absolutely.

[Dylan]

We had a whole text chain.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't believe that.

[Paulie]

No, no.

[Dan Patrick]

I, I, I, what was it on the Motorola Razor?

[Paulie]

No, no. I saw Big Cat and TFT yesterday and they said they were going to have beers with you watching the soccer match. Oh, we did.

[Dan Patrick]

I had, I had, halfway through the

[Paulie]

game, I had rally.

[Dan Patrick]

Big Cat looked at me because what's wrong? I'm like, dude, I'm trying anything right now. Boys, thanks for having me.

[Paulie]

They could have used you. Thank you, bud.

[Dan Patrick]

Thanks, guys.

[Paulie]

Taylor Twelveman, Apple tv former USA striker a lot of fun. This is a guy who, on short notice, before we went on vacation, he pulled over to the side of the road and said, oh, I can zoom with you. So we appreciate that. Paulie was asked a question that I thought was interesting about trying to make a parallel between one sport and another sport.

[Dylan]

So, yeah, people were saying this week, and someone said at the airport I was talking to about soccer. If Indiana University football can right the ship and win the college football national title, why can't USA Soccer win? And on the surface, it seems fair, but I think it's really apples and oranges. Kurt Signetti and Indiana can get some money together and grab some other players that they have access to. And in America, you know, the Team usa, there's some international finagling and you can get a player from another country here and there a little bit, like if they change their citizenship, but you can't acquire Messi or Holland. You can't really do that. And I think here until America, I don't think it's ever going to be a full soccer country. It's a. It's a.

[Paulie]

We got too many other options.

[Dylan]

Too many other options. And if in Italy, they live and breathe soccer from four years leading up to the World cup, and it's a. It's an international disaster for them that they're not in it this year.

[Paulie]

Yeah, we can't use Nil to acquire Mbappe. Like, you know, if we could, you know, great. But we'd only be using him every four years for the World Cup. But, yeah, IU has Mark Cuban. Whoever is going to be donating money, they can go out and get, you know, Mendoza from Cal. Although at the time, nobody knew how good he was going to be, but they went out and spent some money. They have a talent pool that is the entire United States. We don't have the world to be able to go out and buy a player, you know, unless it's. What did Joel Embiid change his nationality? Yeah.

[Todd]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

He played for Team USA in the Olympics. Yep. Yeah. Even though he's from Cameroon. Yeah.

[Dylan]

It's a nice acquisition.

[Paulie]

Yeah. But I don't know if we can get anybody, convince anybody that, you know, hey, we. We want to come on in. We're. We're going to make you an honorary American. Yes.

[Todd]

Marvin Messi plays in Miami. He could have come over here.

[Dylan]

God, that'd be a great acquisition.

[Paulie]

Yeah, but how great would he be with Team USA as opposed to Argentina? He.

[Dylan]

He would need a lot more help than he's. He gets a lot of help.

[Paulie]

Yeah, he does get a lot of help. That was a team win by Argentina. Too many. Look, we don't know the other players. We know Messi and he gets credit but his team won that against Egypt and look, I don't know, people are going, well, is it 28 to 3? Was it the Knicks coming back from 29 down. You're up 20 on the defending champs with 11 minutes to go and you're going to end Messi's World cup career and a team effort to come back. Although once again Egypt's coach not thrilled. He thought that there was some, there were some games going on within the game and he might have a point. There might have a point there. All right, we'll take a break. We'll get to phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend. He played Kevin on the Office. Brian Baumgartner, we got a chance to talk to him yesterday and he has a really, really, really interesting request for when he dies. He's never said this before and we were really surprised of and he said I could play a role and when Brian dies. So he'll join us a little bit later on. Yeah, that's a reason to tune in. Find out what Brian Baumgartner wants to do when he dies.

[Todd]

All right.

[Paulie]

Stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. We're back after this with our play of the day. Fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Oh my God. Of the day. This is the play of the day. Check this out. I know, I'm a buzzkill. I don't like it. I think you're trying to take away from what Messi did and become more of the star. I know. Buzzkill. That's me. Yes, Dylan. How do you not like that? That guy was literally died. He was running out of breath. Okay, you know, how about we dial it back 20% there? How about just one go a little up? Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

Part of the problem I think is since it's just very little scoring. So I guess you can get away with that if it was a kind of sport where it's like 9 7. You can't do that a dozen and a half times.

[Paulie]

That's courtesy of telemando Lionel Messi. The game tying goal from Argentina. Play of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. Hottest rookies, biggest superstars, the all time greats. One place to collect them all Panini trading cards. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. You guys okay with the goal? You know, like three or four times drawn out. You, Dylan, you're okay. Okay.

[Todd]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

I love it. Yeah. Paul. Paul, Soccer purist.

[Dylan]

Yeah, I, I remember Andres Cantor from 25 years ago, and it was niche and cool, and I think now it's his thing he kind of has to do.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Almost like a little.

[Dylan]

Gus Johnson does it a little bit. He does his thing. I don't need that much in soccer.

[Paulie]

Yes.

[Todd]

I don't care for people that make it all about themselves. It's about the guy that scored the goal.

[Dylan]

That's funny.

[Todd]

Yes.

[Paulie]

Okay. I'm gonna give you a blue. Yeah, you are boot for that. Okay. Poll question results. Dan, do you prefer lakes, oceans, or rivers? 46% say flakes. You're correct. Okay, thank you.

[Dylan]

I'm surprised.

[Paulie]

I would have thought it would be oceans. And how disappointed were you by Team USA's performance against Belgium? 58% say a lot. Okay. And you know where I'm seated, so I've got a chair for a guest. Then I've got Marvin and Paulie in the front row. The back row elevated with Todd and Dylan. And Dylan's got these shorts on and. Oh, no, you gotta really, really be careful of how you sit with those shorts on. Because we had a Sharon Stone Basic Instinct moment earlier today where I looked over and I went, oh, no, you can't do that to me. The left pant leg. You're just staring down the barrel. That's. There's a reason I haven't uncrossed my legs in a while. How about we put a blanket over your legs there? I'd love that if Sharon Stone's there. Fine.

[Dylan]

Yes, Paul, Dylan, Yell four when you uncross your legs.

[Paulie]

All right, a couple of phone calls here. Best and worst of the weekend. Here we are at the American Century. And you know, we don't have any protection here.

[Dylan]

We used to have this, like, glass half fence to protect you from spray golf balls.

[Paulie]

Yeah, not everybody out there is good. Just want to let everybody know that we had some stray shots last year that came in into our set like a helmet. I, I, I know I'm looking over my shoulders if I can do anything about it when somebody hits a shot in here. All right. Buddha in San Francisco. Hey, Buddha, what up, dp? Happy hump day, boys. Well, Dan, I'm here in Tahoe, up in my room, and I can almost see the set. Spectacular view. I'm about to head over and say come, come say hello. But Dan, I think this is probably the most activity on a break that we've ever had in sports that I can remember.

[Dan Patrick]

Anyways.

[Paulie]

I mean, my Lakers finally found freedom. NBA making major moves. Ronaldo ends his career inside Jerry world ironic. And Spain is stacked. Best of the break. DP the world, sweetheart. Campo Verde making Argentina and Messi nervous. Like Fritzi trying to get out of his sausage cost him nervous. I mean, that's, that's serious. And they will never be forgotten. That should be a movie in the movie in the making for sure. And worst of the break, the US Men getting Molly whopped on Monday. I mean, in Seattle, all the height. I mean, everybody was calling Belgium old red card being overturned was just bad juju in my opinion. That was bad. We'll see you soon. Buddha David in Ohio. Hi, David. Hey, what's up, Dan? Welcome back. Best of the weekend, Lionel Messi and

[Dan Patrick]

Argentina coming back from a 2 to

[Paulie]

0 deficit against Egypt at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta.

[Dan Patrick]

And honestly, the second Egypt went up two to nothing.

[Paulie]

Falcons fans probably got nervous because if we've learned anything, no lead is safe in that building.

[Dan Patrick]

First it was 28 to 3.

[Paulie]

Now Egypt's lead is officially in denial. Thank you. Oh, wow. David give that to you. 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle the DP Show. We'll talk a little bit more about the free agency. What's going on with LeBron. And oh, by the way, today is the anniversary of LeBron making the decision to take his talents to South Beach. Do you think there is any chance that LeBron was holding out for this anniversary? Marvin says no. There is no correlation between. He's not going to do it the way he did with the decision. There's no way.

[Dylan]

Press release.

[Paulie]

Okay. Yeah.

[Dylan]

Paul, later today we're playing decision two. How does it play out? We each have to guess. There you go. Nicely timed. How do we find out? LeBron joins whatever his next team is. We're going to play that game later.

[Paulie]

Well, probably shams would be how I'd find out or Wendy or somebody like that.

[Dylan]

I think it's going to be. I got to save it for the game.

[Paulie]

Okay. All right. All right. We'll have that game coming up. And I like the Lakers. I like what they did. I think they're better off today than they were two weeks ago. And we'll talk about this. I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago. Make your decision on LeBron and move on. If you're keeping him, great. He wants to stay, great. You got him for one more year. I. I applaud them. You rip the band aid off. Rip it off. Move forward. Austin Reaves will join us probably tomorrow on the show. We can talk about, you know, the new look Lakers. Walker Kessler, I like him. I. For what they want to do and what Luka wants from a big man. I think that they upgraded. Build a roster here. You're going against really good teams in the West. Yes. Yes. Marvin.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, they're better, but are they a contender?

[Paulie]

Well, I don't know if they were a contender before. Oh, they weren't. Yeah, you said better, and I was like, yes, four games better. Well, you're better. But how about we. We start thinking about the future, not now. And LeBron was now. Now, if you said, hey, we got a chance to win it, then I'd be all in. But they didn't. Hour two on the way. More of your phone calls, Dan and the Dan It's Dan Patrick show.

[Dan Patrick]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Paulie]

Guaranteed human.