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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It's hour one on this Wednesday. Oh, we've been celebrating all night long. The Knicks won the cup. Todd's got his Knicks gear on. We are New York and we love basketball. The Knicks win the cup and they beat the Spurs. No word on the parade in New York City and when the banner will be raised. The. I do have a question, though, like an honest, legitimate question. Will the Knicks raise a cup banner? Did the other teams did. The Lakers didn't. I think we had Barkley on and I. And Barkley was saying they better not raise a banner. Did they, Marvin? Yes, I think they have a small banner. Oh, so the Knicks should do it. Yeah. They haven't had any banners go up there in a long, long time. Yes, Todd, I think you raise a cup, like at a staff dinner to celebrate with champagne, and that's the cup you raised, but not an actual thing hanging from the ra. I think the Knicks will probably raise a banner, but. But the Lakers did raise a banner, huh? Yeah, Paul. Yeah.

Paul Pabst (4:23)

Confirmed. 2023. Never forget Lakers embrace in season tournament with banner ceremony. It's not the biggest banner, but it's very becoming.

Dan Patrick (4:31)

Okay, Becoming.

Paul Pabst (4:32)

It's gorgeous. It's like black and gold and.

Dan Patrick (4:35)

Okay, a little purple. The Emirates.

Paul Pabst (4:37)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (4:38)

Yeah. But they did win. Now, I know we've joked about the cup most of the morning, having fun with it, but this is what will be lost on people, I think, and that is focusing on the spurs because they need to play in meaningful games. That's a very young roster, and I think this is something that can help them later on this season. I don't think that they're a threat to win the NBA Finals, but get in the playoffs and play with some meaningful games. You know, Stefan Castle, who played well, Wemby's coming off the bench. They got Dylan Harper. Like, they have some pieces there, but they're young and they need to play in meaningful games. And this is as close as they'll play in meaningful games. Now, they did beat the Thunder the other night, and, you know, that caught people's attention here. Now all of a sudden, you look at them and they're not the. One of these years they're going to be a pretty good team. They might be ahead of schedule here, and that's what I was taking away from this game. You're playing for something. You're playing for a cup, but you're playing for money as well. For, you know, the guys on your Team that don't make a lot of money and that can be impactful. The spotlight a little brighter there and maybe the spurs pick up some much needed experience that can help them down the road. Paulie.

Paul Pabst (5:56)

So you're saying like three, four years from now when they're in front of the podium this year when Benyama is holding the NBA title, he's like, how did this all start? You know, it was all went back to the cup that lost to the Knicks. Lit the fire.

Dan Patrick (6:09)

See, once again you're mocking this.

Paul Pabst (6:11)

You were doing a lot of mocking.

Dan Patrick (6:13)

Try not the spurs side of this.

Paul Pabst (6:15)

Oh, okay.

Dan Patrick (6:15)

The Knicks. I am. Yeah. Go New York. Go New York. Go right, Todd. Go New York. Go New York. Go with the Knicks. That we're doing it for kicks. We're hitting three pointers and you're putting up bricks. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock or the NBC Sports Network, our stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. First hour brought to you by Mako. Most cars on the road could use a little tlc. They bring your car back to life. Affordable paint jobs, light collision repairs. Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako. Say good morning to our radio affiliates as well. Operators sitting by. 877 3DP show, call in. Say hello to Tyler. Oh, it's a meat Wednesday. Heartland Steak Co sent some, you know, another gift package here just in time for the holiday. So I went out in the kitchen and all of a sudden I see that must be bacon wrapped filet mignon. We got ribeye steak paninis, pork chop milanese and creamed cor. Who is it better than we do? No, the Knicks are jealous, man. That's a victory celebration right there. But meat Friday, courtesy of our partners from Heartland Steak Co. You go the website heartlandstakeco.com and you can get some great gift ideas for the holidays. Yes. Paul.

Paul Pabst (7:45)

Yeah, I want to go back to the Knicks for a second. I was looking at the standings. They're 18 and 7, but they've outscored their opponents by nine points a game. That's the best in the east this year. Detroit is young. The Raptors are good. Ish. The Celtics are injured. In the recent 20 years, this might be their best chance to make the finals.

Dan Patrick (8:04)

Oh, yeah, yeah, Absolutely.

Paul Pabst (8:05)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (8:06)

All four previous teams to reach the NBA cup championship game. The Lakers, Pacers, Bucks, Thunder. They all qualified for the NBA playoffs. In each of the previous two seasons. The team that lost the cup championship Game advanced further in the postseason than the team that won the cup. So. Whoa. Dad of the Day, brought to you by Panini America. Yes, Marvin. They had nothing left after they won the cup. They spent exhausted. See, you guys are mocking. I'm trying to look at the positive here. I don't want the commissioner mad at me. It seems like he's upset with everybody but Amazon prime carrying this. He had this to say last night. As a fan, I think you do a great job educating, you know, other fans about the game because that, I would say has frustrated me in the past about some coverage. When it sort of reduced to one side wanted it more, this side played harder. And when you guys are explaining like, why can't a guy get a shot off? Why is a particular defense working? And when you go. And when you guys go out on the floor and demonstrate things, I. I can say as a fan, I love.

Paul Pabst (9:22)

That part of the coverage.

Dan Patrick (9:23)

I think he's taking a shot at Charles. Barkley felt like it because Charles said it was, I think, stupid. Maybe that was the word he used. Yes, Eden. Well, Charles isn't necessarily wrong. Except the only problem with it is there's nothing unique about the in season tournament. Oh, oh, wait a minute. I got. Charles called it embarrassing, not stupid. Okay, so. Well, I don't know if it's embarrassing. Yeah, but they. The idea is correct. The infrastructure in order to accomplish the idea is incorrect. Okay, Meaning tweaks would you have with this? Well, this is basically taking like a page from soccer. Soccer has all of these in season tournaments, right? Like in England, they have the FA cup right there. They have the Carabao Cup. Those are different. One of them, it's every team within the pyramid plays against each other. So it's special. Another one, it's only like the top four or five leagues, they play against each other, so it's special. This is an NBA tournament of NBA teams playing other NBA teams in the NBA season. There's nothing unique about it whatsoever. If you had G league teams in there and you had some D1 teams or something and be like, whoa, this is special. This is really something. Now we got something, but we don't have that in the United States. We have the US Open Cup. That's basically every soccer league in the country, for the most part, all get together and play in this one cup. The USL cup is every USL league playing against each other or most of the USL leagues playing against each other. There's not. If it was just the MLS cup and it was only MLS Teams playing against each other, then that would just be called a regular season. There's nothing about it. This is all just a regular season. You need to get something else. Get put European teams in there or something. But you need to make it different. Yeah, Paul.

Paul Pabst (11:13)

Yeah, I totally agree with Seaton. It feels like forced relevance. It's somewhat early in the season. If you didn't change the color of the courts, you would think it's a generally just a regular season game. Almost all the games also count in the regular season standings. So they're like double dipping it. The final felt a bit special because we were told it was.

Dan Patrick (11:35)

Yeah, it felt like we were force fed. Like, what's wrong with you? Don't you understand? You should be really hyping this up. We haven't been hyping it up. We. I don't even know if I mentioned the who were. Who was in the finals yesterday. Yes, right. It should mean something because like you, you know, if there's a trophy at stake, then you should want to win it. So let's go win it. There's just nothing unique about it other than grouping together some games and then calling it a competition. Chase Daniel from the mothership, he'll join us coming up in about 10 minutes. Robert Griffin Jr. The third. A little later on. Reggie Miller stops by. Tony Gonzalez will join us as well. You have Devonte Adams Iffy for Thursday and it felt like this was going to be a game time decision. That's what Sean McVeigh said. The commanders have shut down Jaden Daniels and they know what they have in Jaden Daniels and you know he's getting banged up. I don't think anybody's surprised that with that build was he going to get banged up? And the answer is yes. Meanwhile, Jackson Dart will continue to play for the Giants because they don't know what they have in Jackson Dart and I don't know. And I want to talk to RG3 and even Chase Daniel. I don't know if you can ask somebody to change. I never understood this philosophy with NFL teams. If you're really successful in college and you run the ball and you also pass, but you're, you know, one of your strengths is, is you run the ball because Lamar Jackson did that at Louisville and then people wondered, well, can he throw the football? He's got to learn how to play in the pocket. Well, yes, but I don't want him to stop running. Cam Newton, I don't want him to stop running. I want them to run smartly and you're going to ask Jackson Dart, can you change? And the, you know, these guys go by instinct that, you know, they're just natural, like a natural reaction time with something. You can't go, wait, wait, what am I supposed to do now? You would think slide or get out of bounds. You should be able to think on your feet. And I don't know if Jackson Dart wants to change. I don't know if he can change because this is his whole mindset. This is an aggressive football player who plays a position where you normally don't have aggression. Josh Allen is as big as anybody on the football field. I don't worry about him. But he also slides. He also plays smarter than he used to. Mahomes, you know, he's. He's on the move, but he, I think, because he has to be on the move. And then you wonder, is he going to be using his legs, able to use his legs when he comes back from this surgery? I don't want, you know, Kyler Murray is who he is, but I don't want him to change his style. I want him to change his approach. But I can't say to Kyler Murray, don't use your legs, or Josh Allen, don't use your legs. Lamar Jackson, don't use your legs. This is what made you great. This is why we took you with a, you know, high draft pick. And with Jackson Dart, I don't know if you can say to him, we love the aggression, but let's live to, you know, have another play because you can't be in concussion protocol. And what, she played 10 games and I think five times they've had him in the blue tent. You know, that's a habit. That's the problem I have with Jackson Dart. You can play with aggression. You can, you know, you can have that energy there. But do not take on defensive players. You know, if it means the Super Bowl's on the line and you're going to dive into the end zone. John Elway doing the helicopter. Okay. I mean, even go back to Carson Wentz in that game against the Rams, did he need to dive into the end zone and then get his knee blown out? No. So you're asking these guys, hey, I used to do that, or I did that in high school, I did that in college. Why can't I do it now? Because it's the NFL. And with Jackson Dart, he's got three more games. And know now is when you, you start to find out, you know, Cleveland's going to find out about Shador Sanders, these next three games going to find out is he a franchise quarterback? Because that'll be a pretty good sample size. And they probably have already made up their mind of are they going to take a quarterback high in the draft. But maybe Shador Sanders can show them, hey, I can be a franchise quarterback or some other team might look at that. So you got some players who are playing for things and it might not be playing for their team. It could be let me showcase my talents. I wouldn't be surprised if Cleveland goes all in on a quarterback and Shador Sanders is not going to be the Browns quarterback. And like that. That wouldn't surprise me at all. I think he's shown glimpses. Dylan Gabriel is not a franchise quarterback. You know, there's certain guys that they just come in and they get an opportunity and maybe they get recycled and then maybe they prove in three years or four years they can play. But you got three games. Like the Bengals are really interesting with Joe Burrow and they're playing the Dolphins. I don't know what which Joe Burrow and the Bengals will show up. I mean, they got embarrassed against the Ravens. That's a no show and that would really concern me. You know, another thing that I saw with the Cleveland Browns against the Bears, they the number of guys who didn't play in that game for the Browns felt like, it's cold. I don't want to play. And I talked to a former NFL executive yesterday and he laughed about it. He said, this feels like this is too cold and I don't know if I want to go out there. Ah, man, I'm not feeling as healthy as possible. I said, well, they do play in Cleveland. And he said, well, there's Cleveland cold and then there's Chicago cold. 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Liberty. Liberty. We will settle on a poll question for the first hour. Also, get to your phone calls as well. Chase Daniel, the Mothership, NFL college football analyst and co host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast. Also check out the Chase Daniel show on YouTube. He'll be on the call for the Independence bowl, Coastal Carolina, Louisiana Tech. That'll be December 30th on the mothership. And he'll also be in the radio booth for the Orange Bowl College Football Playoff quarterfinal on New Year's Day. Good to talk to you. Of all the tape you've been breaking down, give me, give me the one that stood out. Good or bad?

Paul Pabst (22:01)

Yeah, I mean, there's two in my opinion. The first one is Josh Allen and just what he's been able to do with so much less. And that was sort of the MVP conversation last year. And you break it down. The first half was awful. The Bills couldn't move the ball at all. The Patriots had them figured out. Bills defensively looked bad. And then you just turn on the second half and they rolled. And it's just every single time that the Bills need to make a play, they rely on Josh Allen. And Josh Allen was put in some crazy situations and he was able to make some plays. The other one, Dan, that I really enjoyed watching and I think no one is talking about them, is Jacksonville Jaguars. What Liam Cohn is doing with Trevor Lawrence, I mean, this was with, without a doubt the best game Trevor Lawrence has ever played, maybe at any level. And it's not only because the six touchdowns. Right. That's nice. And you look at the stats and you're like, oh, that's awesome. But you look at the play calling, you look at the play sequencing, meaning what plays are you running back to back to back. He has different plays in three different variations that may make the defense react. Certain ways that the amount of play action, the trust that Trevor Lawrence is throwing and just it's, it's been impressive to watch because in my opinion, the jury was a little bit out on Trevor Lawrence. Hey, how's he going to react? How's he going to be with this third head coach or fourth? Well, however many it is. And then you see what Liam Cohn's been able to do. And he's been able to highlight the strong parts of Trevor Lawrence's game, and that's throwing the football down the field. And so it's just been really impressive. The other one real quick is Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams to me and, and Ben Johnson. If you just look at what Ben Johnson's doing, he's worth 14 points a game because these. He's scheming guys wide open. But also Caleb Williams actually trying to find stuff open and throw stuff open, and his growth has been really good. I can't believe The Bears have 10 wins right now.

Dan Patrick (23:58)

Okay. But he's getting credit for that throated Dj Moore.

Paul Pabst (24:02)

Yeah, that. That was risky. I. That was. I mean, I honestly, I broke it down on the YouTube. It'll be out today.

Dan Patrick (24:08)

And.

Paul Pabst (24:08)

And when I see that throw made, it's so nonchalant, right? He has the ball down here and he just sort of tosses it up like a prayer. And I don't know, first of all, how the. The first safety missed it. And then secondly, the guy covering Dj Moore, it went right through his hands. And so everyone's going to be like, oh, my gosh, that's amazing. That's a great throw. I think it's risky, you know, back.

Dan Patrick (24:31)

To Josh Allen and, you know, trying to equate what is value and do we. It. Is it equal with being great in September and October to being great in December? And this is where Josh Allen, I mean, Matthew Stafford's been great wire to wire.

Paul Pabst (24:48)

Yes, no doubt.

Dan Patrick (24:49)

But. So I don't know if I was a voter, how do I equate what he's doing now in December as opposed to what Matthew Stafford has done the entire year?

Paul Pabst (24:59)

I think Matthew Stafford still deserves the MVP and what he's been able to do with this Rams team.

Dan Patrick (25:03)

But.

Paul Pabst (25:03)

But Dan, here. Here's my thing, and I'm not a voter. I know some people voters, and everyone votes differently. If you look at the roster that Josh Allen has and what he's been able to do lately, you can't even remotely compare it to the roster that Matthew Stafford has. Now. Matthew's making some insane throws and Matthew's playing some of the best bowl of his career. But you look at Kyron Williams, you look. And I know Josh Allen has the running back, but you look at the receiver group over there for the Rams with Puka and Devonte, and, and just it just to me, I don't think that Josh Allen has overtaken Matthew Stafford in the MVP race. But this is the year for Josh Allen, if there's any year that he's going to make some hay in the AFC and actually win a Super bowl, it's going to be on the back of Josh Allen. There's no Patrick Mahomes, there's no Lamar Jackson, there's no Joe Burrow. So Josh Allen, it's going to be talked about. If they can't, if they're limping into the playoffs, which are not right now, or they don't, they go around or two and they lose again, it just seems to me. And they, they just, they just beat the best team in the AFC other than the Broncos. And so to me, this is the year that Josh Allen has to get it done.

Dan Patrick (26:12)

Man, did you break down Philip Rivers?

Paul Pabst (26:15)

I did, yes. It didn't get a lot of views because I guess no one cares about old man Rivers. But it's on the YouTube channel. First of all, forget about any of the stats. I mean, a 44 year old, wait.

Dan Patrick (26:27)

Are you grading differently? Are you grading differently because you go, well, it's a 44 year old guy. Are you treating him the same way you would Shador Sanders?

Paul Pabst (26:37)

Not even close. And it's grading on a curve because Philip Rivers, 5, hasn't thrown a pass in five years. So he's coaching his high school team. And when you go on the road against that Mike McDonald defense in Seattle and almost when like it just, here's the thing, they can't really throw it outside the numbers because Phillips arm strength just isn't there. I mean, he threw a couple that were like lollipops and I'm like, oh my gosh, they barely fit in there. But in between the, the numbers and I would say the one thing that really stood out to me is mentally, man, he has not missed it at all. You see him out there after the first like 20 plays where he's filling it out, he's getting the speed of the game, he's changing plays left to right, he's motioning, he's doing this, he's changing the pass plays. I'm like, how do you have all this figured out? You got there on Monday. Your first practice was Wednesday. So it was, it was impressive for what it was. I mean, the stats aren't, aren't there. It's a huge Monday night game against 49ers though.

Dan Patrick (27:33)

He's Chase Daniel, the mothership, ESPN college football and NFL analyst. And his show is on YouTube. The Chase Daniel Show. I talked a little bit, opening segment about Jackson Dart. You know, the commander is going to Shut down Jaden Daniels. They know what they have with him and let him just get healthy in the offseason. With Jackson Darth, if you've been in the blue tent five times in 10 games, we have a real problem here. But I don't know how you change somebody with their style. And you as a quarterback, can you. What do you say to Jackson Dart if he was your teammate and he played this way and you were his backup, where you might say, hey, keep playing this way, I'm going to get in games. Yeah, yeah, but, but can he change, modify that style?

Paul Pabst (28:25)

He's going to have to. And it's, it's been talked about. And when you, when you watch the games and you. And you do it, it's not out of a place of like, oh, you know, I don't care about my body. I think he's just uber competitive, but it's borderline reckless right now. And I think that's what he has to understand and the new head coach has to understand. I think, I think they have to go offense for their new head coach because Jackson Dart, in my opinion, is the franchise quarterback. He's done that. And yes, there are certain ways that you can run an offense with the quarterback running, but you have to ingrain it in the quarterback's head. If you keep doing this, we're just not going to call the plays and we're not going to call the runs. And it is a big part of his game. And I mean, Dan, if you go back to his Ole Miss days, I mean, that showed up all over the film. It was like, hey, I want to take a hit. I want to do this. I mean, to be in the tent five times in 10 games, it's just not the case. And when you get into those situations, right, because the game's moving really fast, emotional, emotionally, you're just in that situation and you don't think of it and all of a sudden you just get popped. And it's just, I mean, did you see the commanders meeting with Dan Quinn on the hard knocks in season? They were talking about how Jackson Dart and Dan Quinn was talking about how Jackson Dart is reckless and he has, he has no awareness of. He's like, we have to pop him, we have to hit him. Joe Whit said the same thing. The defense square, we have to hit Jackson Dart. So it's being talked about in other locker rooms. That's how, you know it's a problem. And Jackson Dart has to, like, when he goes back this off season after, after the season and they pick the head coach, they're going to sit down and be like, this is the number one thing we have to fix. You are uber talented, but you have to be available for our football team.

Dan Patrick (30:09)

But I don't know, it's. It's been ingrained in him that his dad was a defensive back. I mean, he. He plays like he's a defensive back playing quarterback. And I just wonder, can you instinctively, as you're running, go, oh, wait a minute. I'm supposed to wait, Sly, wait, What am I supposed to do? I don't know if you can do that. And I think that that'll be a real challenge for him. And it doesn't sound like he wants to change.

Paul Pabst (30:36)

I think the one thing that I saw change and that maybe gives me hope is that if you look at Jaden Daniels in college, right, the one thing I was worried about him was he did take too many hits, whether it was sacks or running. And he's a true pocket passer that can take off and is exceptional running the football. He got smoked in college a few times. I was worried about his frame. I was worried about him getting hurt more in the NFL. He's done a really nice job, and Dan Quinn's done a really nice job of understanding. Same with Cliff Kingsbury. Hey, you got to get down and you got to do this. And it's just maybe baby steps, but I think the first thing that has to happen is he has to Jackson or has to take accountability for. For it. And if you can't, I mean, you. You're not going to sit the guy for not playing, but eventually he's going to get hurt. He's going to be out for an extended period of time, and maybe that will make it click for him. Like, hey, I can't be doing this to my team.

Dan Patrick (31:28)

The Dolphins have talked about sitting down, too. Feels like if you sit him down now, I'd like to see Quinn Ewers maybe get a little run here at the end of the year, but it feels like once you sit somebody down, are you kind of saying to the team, we're moving on from that quarterback?

Paul Pabst (31:48)

Look, if that's a great question, and. And the head coach of the Miami Dolphins, whoever it may be next year, because I'm. I have no idea what they're going to do. They're going to have a decision to make with Tua, and I don't care about his contract and. And what happens, but it just seems like, hey, has Tua lived up to the standards on what they probably thought they were going to be probably not, right? Like, playoffs have been a dud, all this stuff. And then if you sit them down, I mean, you're saying you want to see what a seventh round has for the next three games and if that seventh rounder plays well enough or maybe you're in the QB conversation. I, it just, I don't think the, the jury's out yet on if 2 is done or not. But it is a very difficult situation, especially if you're two and you're seeing McDaniels make comments and you're like, oh my gosh, like, man, I thought I'd done enough. And two has been really outspoken on a lot of different things this year. It will be interesting to see if, if McDaniels is the head coach next year, does he bring back Tua. It just, I don't know, man. It's, it's a tough situation. You know, these last three, four games for, for teams that aren't in the playoff hunt, it's all about evaluation. You know that. And so they want to evaluate not only the quarterback position, but there's going to be some stuff defensively they do, there's going to be some. Offensively they do. They need to really evaluate the last, you know, 20, 25 guys on the roster of that 53. And I don't think they want two out there doing that.

Dan Patrick (33:19)

What should the Chiefs approach be for next season?

Paul Pabst (33:23)

Man, you know, we, we, we talk about, I have a lot of really good friends in the Chiefs organization from the GM to the quarterback coach to those like a lot of guys. And when you talk to these guys, it's just like a little bit of like unknown, like, why aren't we doing this and why aren't we doing this and how are we not winning? And you look at it, Dan, and it comes down to, and I've really tried to study it because when you look at them offensively and defensively, they're, they're not like awful, right? They don't have a run game, right. And I think it's a lazy take to just say, hey, it's just the offensive line. They drafted a first round pick. They have one of the best centers in the NFL. They got to stay healthy, they paid the right tackle. And it's just one of those things where I boil it down to be like, they aren't great in one score games. I think they were 11 and oh, last year. They're one in seven this year. And that's a huge part of this deal. If you win four of those seven games, you're in the playoffs now. My home's hurt, and it's, It's. It's brutal. And I think this might be the best thing to happen to the Chiefs. Everyone wants to talk about, like, hey, you know, the dynasty's over and this and that. And, you know, Trey Wingo got on Twitter and said, hey, you know, nice season. Tom Brady tears his ACL with the Patriots dynasty. And then Mahomes, there's acl. It's just a different version, going to be moving forward. And I just think that Brett Veach, when you, when you win Super Bowls and you've been. And five of the last six, you've been in seven straight AFC championship, you've had storybook seasons every year. First of all, they played, I think, 23 extra games, almost a season and a half of extra games in seven years. So the tiredness plays into it. However, a lot of times you're just like, let's run it back, let's run it back. Let's run it back. And they've drafted well, but they got to get rid of some older guys. They got some key decisions to make. They got to shore up that defensive line. As long as they have spags and Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, I think they're still going to be fine. They're going to make the playoffs next year. Like, it's not going to be one of those things where, hey, you know, it's just a different version of the dynasty, in my opinion.

Dan Patrick (35:28)

Yeah, but when people make that comparison with Brady and Mahomes, Mahomes needs his legs. Tom doesn't. Tom. Tom didn't get slower. He was slow. Mahomes, he was their leading rusher. He was the guy who got those big plays. So it's different for him. And with that kind of surgery, you know, it's an LCL and an acl, and you're having it now. Tom got injured at the beginning of the season when he blew out his acl. So it's, you know, it's different, and.

Paul Pabst (35:58)

It is totally different. And here's the thing, though. I think it'll be good for them because they're going to have to fix the run game. Like, they're not going to have to rely on Mahomes anymore. And, yes, Mahomes like to move around. Remember, I mean, three or four or five years ago, and Mahomes did his kneecap.

Dan Patrick (36:13)

Yeah.

Paul Pabst (36:13)

And the quarterback sneak. And everyone and their mom thought, oh, he's Going to miss the rest of the season. I think there was, I think it was maybe Chad Henney that was a quarterback. He was back in two weeks. And so the, the ability to get back into train and ACL and LCL is completely different than a kneecap. But everyone thought that was going to be the end of the world. I mean, he's going to be pushing up to the season. I don't think he's, he's obviously going to have a brace on and it's not going to be able to move him. But if anyone can heal fast, I think it's Mahomes.

Dan Patrick (36:39)

When do you start chopping up the college quarterbacks?

Paul Pabst (36:42)

Yeah, that'll be after Christmas. So I got to get through this bowl game, Independence bowl, and then as we get into the start of the playoffs, it's, it's those, it's those three at the top, in my opinion. Dante Moore, Fernando Mendoza, and there's a few more that I want to look at for potential. Ty Simpson is one of them. I think he sort of played his way out. But those are the three now with Arch Manning going back and there's some other like under the radar type guys. But that'll be at the end of the end of the season for sure.

Dan Patrick (37:12)

Have the Saints seen enough that they would not be in the quarterback market with Shuck?

Paul Pabst (37:20)

Look, I know the people down there and they've been extremely happy with Shuck's development. And honestly, I think they probably should have played them a little bit earlier, if I'm being honest with you, just to see what they have. I think there's enough, there's enough tape on film to be like, hey, all right, we're good. Now if you have a high first round pick though, and if you can get into that top three, I mean, you have to look at Fernando Mendoza, you have to look at, at Dante Moore. I, I think shucks good, but you know, it's going to be interesting to see what happens with the head coach. I mean, the head coach is staying down there and in, in more, but I think, I think you're good. I don't know, there's so many other holes on that roster that you need to fix. But he's done a really nice job. I mean, if you've really broken down the film and watched it and his growth has been tremendous.

Dan Patrick (38:14)

Have fun in the Independence Bowl. Happy holidays to you and always great to talk to you.

Paul Pabst (38:19)

Appreciate you, Dan.

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Paul Pabst (44:24)

The turning point of. Remember in summer, you would spend your entire summer outside and try to stay out as late as possible. And then like, Atari was invented and those video games are invented, and that's the turning point of when kids sped more time inside than outside, probably.

Dan Patrick (44:37)

Yeah, but we didn't have Atari.

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No, I'm saying you never.

Dan Patrick (44:40)

Jim did this. No, definitely Jim did. So, you know, you kick him outside and you lock the door and you stay out there. Yes. Yeah, it was like maybe the turning point like Paul's mentioning was that's when you started getting yelled at for staying inside too long. It was like mom and dad be like, yeah, playing video games all day. So get outside. Yeah. In the summer, my mom said, if you're inside when I get up, you're working. So we were out the door at 7, 7am and didn't come back until dinner. Chris in Syracuse. Good morning, Chris. What's on your mind today? Thanks, Dan. Got a couple things to throw at you. Yeah. Last weekend, another break in. And in sports, especially in the NFL, the rash of home invasions while players are on the road is a real problem. And I believe years ago, Sean Taylor actually lost his life defending his home. And I don't know what they could do, but I wish the NFL would try teaming up with a place like simply say, Home Security Systems to maybe at least help mitigate the problem. And I am a really big Nick fan and I'm with you. I don't want to see a banner. The only thing really I liked about this tournament is that the players, I believe, each get 500 grand each. Nice for the guys on the end of the bench. And Brunson said last night that the Knicks were going to give their team managers and trainers part of the money, so. So that's good. But I am excited about raising a real banner in June and yeah, and this team reminds me of those, those 70 championship teams, Dan. You know, you had your point guard and center, your two stars, they had Clyde and Reed in the 70s. And this year you got Brunson and Cat and then guys like the Bush and Bradley who did a little of everything, played some defense. And this year we got Bridges and Anobi and Josh Hart and especially Anobi I. That guy is so unique, the way he plays. And Gretzky always used to say, I don't want to be where the puck is, I want to be where the puck is going to be. And that's OJ And Obi with the basketball. His anticipation is incredible. Well, thank you for that observation, Chris Lucas in Texas. Hey, Luke. Hey, Dan. Good morning. Good morning. I know that we're still a couple days out from the weekend, but I'm looking, looking forward to a most must win game of the weekend. And I don't want to put too much pressure on James Madison. I understand that they're there by their definitions of success, they have a successful season making the playoffs. I just feel like if there is not a Boise State beating Oklahoma type upset, soon there's going to be a lot less patience for teams like Notre Dame sitting on the sideline while a team like James Madison gets blown out by Oregon. I think if that game isn't close or if there's not an upset, I feel like we're going to be saying that that Oregon game on Saturday night, we would much rather be watching Notre Dame out at Odson rather than the Dukes. Yeah. And then Joel Clack, Fox college football analyst, had this to say about Cinderella's.

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Paul Pabst (47:47)

Nobody cares in football about James Madison or, you know, the equivalent of George Mason going, didn't George Mason go to the Final Four? They did.

Dan Patrick (47:55)

Yeah. Nobody cares in football. And he's, I mean, he's right. He's saying the quiet part out loud because there's part of us that's like, well, they, you know, let's reward somebody. If they did what you're supposed to do, then you reward them. Whether it was Boise State, Arizona State last year, and you got James Madison in Tulane. But the NCAA Tournament, March Madness, we're fine with the upsets early and then once it gets to the Sweet 16 or the Elite 8, that's when we go, okay guys, now the grown ups take over. We want to see the best teams. We want to see the best teams in college football play. And can we get to the point? What you're still going to have these teams like James Madison and Tulane make the playoffs. If you go to 16 teams now, you're going to make sure that you do get probably the 14 best teams in college football, the 13 best. And you're going to get a couple of these. Oh, wow, that was a great run. Like Liberty or, you know, some of these other schools that had, you know, meteoric rise. But I, I just think they're, we're going to have this. I don't think it's going away, at least not anytime soon. One hour in the books. Two more to go. 8, 7 7, 3 DP show more phone calls. Robert Griffin Jr III will join us. Also, Tony Gonzalez stops by and Reggie Miller with his weekly appearance. This is Sophie Cunningham from Show Me Something. Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, or OSA.

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