Hour 1 - NFL Training Camp Holdouts

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1: NFL Training Camp Holdouts

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Dan Patrick Show
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
• Description: Dan Patrick hosts a daily radio show featuring A-list guests from sports and entertainment, offering insights on pop culture and sports with a dose of humor.
• Episode: Hour 1 - NFL Training Camp Holdouts
• Release Date: July 23, 2025

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Introduction

Timestamp [03:20] – The show kicks off with Paul Pabst presenting the "Stat of the Day," highlighting NFL training camp holdouts. The focus is on Terry McLaurin of the Washington Commanders, whose holdout is not receiving as much media attention as other high-profile players like Micah Parsons and Trey Hendrickson.

Main Discussion: NFL Training Camp Holdouts

Terry McLaurin’s Holdout

Timestamp [03:20] – Paul Pabst:
"Terry McLaurin is holding out in his last year with the Commanders. At 29, he's earned two Pro Bowls and a second-team All-Pro designation over the past three seasons with impressive stats—82 catches, 1,100 yards, and 13 touchdowns last year."

Analysis:

• McLaurin's performance merits greater recognition and a substantial contract.
• His holdout signifies potential undervaluing by the Commanders.

Comparison with Micah Parsons and Trey Hendrickson

Timestamp [05:50] – Dan Patrick:
"Micah Parsons is set to become the highest-paid non-quarterback in the NFL, which raises questions about salary cap strategies and their impact on team dynamics."

Timestamp [08:02] – Dan Patrick:
"I’ve been pretty consistent... [referring to contract negotiations]. I understand the nature of the business... I need to take care of my family."

Discussion Points:

• Micah Parsons: Expected to receive a significant contract increase, impacting the Cowboys' salary structure.
• Trey Hendrickson: Despite outperforming T.J. Watt, Hendrickson faces challenges in securing a comparable contract, highlighting discrepancies in player negotiations based on team reputation and management.

Quote [09:00] – Paul Pabst:
"If he was playing for the Cowboys, it would [get more attention]. But he plays for the Commanders, a team not currently seen as Super Bowl contenders."

Dallas Cowboys’ Contract Management

Timestamp [11:30] – Paul Pabst:
"Jerry Jones appears to prioritize media attention over sound contract negotiations, similar to past dealings with Dak Prescott, leading to inflated salaries and potential financial strain."

Timestamp [16:07] – Paul Pabst:
"The Cowboys are extremely top-heavy with salaries for quarterback, wide receiver, and edge rusher, potentially sacrificing depth and future flexibility."

Analysis:

• Jerry Jones’ Approach: Aggressive contract negotiations attracting media spotlight but possibly undermining team balance and salary cap management.
• Impact: Overpaying key players may limit the team’s ability to sign or retain other talented players, affecting overall competitiveness.

Ownership’s Role in Player Contracts

Timestamp [14:40] – Seton O'Connor:
"Signing a player early can save money temporarily, but it often leads to renegotiations as the player's performance peaks, complicating long-term financial planning."

Timestamp [17:27] – Marvin Prince:
"Contracts tied to performance metrics, such as per-sack payments, could align player incentives with team success, though their practicality remains uncertain."

Discussion Points:

• Early Contracts: Potential cost-saving measures versus the risk of inflation as player performance improves.
• Performance-Based Contracts: Innovative approaches to ensure players are compensated based on tangible contributions, though implementation challenges exist.

Strategies for Contract Negotiations in the NFL

Timestamp [13:41] – Marvin Prince:
"Archetypes like Joe Burrow illustrate how early and proactive contracts can secure talent at favorable rates, serving as a blueprint for managing key players."

Timestamp [19:02] – Paul Pabst:
"Teams successful in securing top talent early, like the Eagles, often enjoy sustained competitiveness and better financial metrics within the salary cap."

Key Takeaways:

• Proactive and strategic contract negotiations can offer long-term benefits, securing talent while maintaining financial health.
• Balancing player satisfaction with team needs is crucial for sustained success.

Caller Interactions

Opinions on Team Management and Contracts

Timestamp [20:10] – Caller (Andrew in Washington):
"Jerry Jones seems more interested in showcasing his wealth than in making rational contract decisions, leading to overpriced contracts that burden the team."

Timestamp [34:01] – Seton O'Connor (Poll Question):
"If your team could only sign one All-Pro for the same money, would you choose a wide receiver or a defensive end?"

Poll Results [54:34] –

• Option Chosen: Defensive End (79%)

Discussion:

• Defensive End Priority: Emphasizing the impact of top defensive players on the game can outweigh offensive contributions in contract priorities.

Insights on Player Performance vs. Contracts

Timestamp [15:24] – Paul Pabst:
"Contracts should reflect both performance and potential. Players like Trey Hendrickson, who have demonstrated exceptional performance, deserve contracts that recognize their contributions."

Timestamp [16:32] – Marvin Prince:
"Introducing performance-based elements in contracts could incentivize players to maintain high performance levels, benefiting both the team and the player."

Notable Quotes

• Paul Pabst [08:08]:
  "If they don't want me here, they don't want me here."

• Dan Patrick [16:10]:
  "We either choose players based on potential or based on performance."

• Seton O'Connor [14:40]:
  "Signing a player early can save money temporarily, but it often leads to renegotiations as the player's performance peaks."

Conclusion

Timestamp [55:31] – As Hour 1 wraps up, Dan Patrick and his co-hosts emphasize the complexities of NFL contract negotiations, highlighting the delicate balance between player performance, team financial health, and strategic management. The discussion underscores the importance of proactive contract strategies and the potential pitfalls of prioritizing media attention over sustainable team building.

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Transcript

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

I mean, honestly, you know, you know, for me, it really don't matter. Like I said, I've been pretty consistent.

[Paul Pabst]

If they don't want me here, they don't want me here.

[Dan Patrick]

I go around my business. I understand the nature of the business. Like I said, as long as I'm hearing and under contract, I'm gonna do what I have to do to perform at the highest level. But if this is then this is then, you know, there's. There's same way that Jones, Jerry Jones and Steven Jones and the other Jerry Jones take care of their family. It's the same way I need to take care of my family. You know, I got my own 3k tomorrow, so we all need to take care of our own family.

[Paul Pabst]

Okay? It's going to get done. That's why I don't want to waste your time, you know, talking about the Cowboys. If. If this wasn't going to get done, if I thought that there was a real risk here, then it's a big story. I do think it's a story just from the standpoint of, once again, it's Jerry doing this. He did this to Dak Prescott. Remember, Dak signed his deal. What was that? The Sunday of the first week of the NFL season prior to the game. Did you need to go that far, that long to make him the highest paid quarterback in the NFL? Seems like you could have done that earlier. Now you take kind of a slighter shot at Dak Prescott that he didn't stay healthy. I had to pay him all this money and Dak. Michael Parsons could get hit by a car and, like, what are we doing here? You're running a business. It just feels like this is more entertainment than running a business. Hey, I'm going to go to a press conference, and I'm going to be all over SportsCenter. That's disappointing. If I'm a Cowboy fan. You just want them to do it right. Just do it right. Get our guys in, okay? You overpaid for Dak, all right? CD Lamb's a really good player. You're spending 30 million. Micah's going to cost you 42 million. Dak cost you 60 million. Okay, now let's work on the rest of the roster because we have to compete in a division that has the Eagles and the Commanders. You know, the Bengals are in a division with the Ravens and the Steelers are all in. Now, that's what I don't understand with the Bengals logic as well. Yet now you have, you know, Mike Brown, the Bengals president, saying it's foolishness that Shamar Stewart is still unsigned. In the language here is Stewart wants everything guaranteed. Even if there's conduct detrimental to the team, he wants everything fully guaranteed. And then Mike Brown said, well, we don't want to pay somebody who could be in jail, which is a big leap of, you know, faith of or lack of faith with the guy you drafted. Yeah, but he could end up in jail. And then I don't want to pay that. Okay, so this is. Once again, it's the Bengals. And yes, they've been to a Super Bowl. They've been to a Super bowl more recent than the Cowboys. But when you have these owners who get involved or how they get involved, it usually doesn't go well. Most of your organizations, owners don't get involved. They have GMs and coaches who do that. But Jerry Love. Jerry is the coach and the GM and the owner. And, you know, after a while you go, it's unfortunate because I would say to Micah Parsons, you could assign Micah Parsons to a deal that was less than T.J. watt or Miles Garrett. You could have done this. You could have been proactive to say, dude, you're our guy, and you could have saved some money here. And this is all about squeezing everybody in that salary cap. And this is a team that is so top heavy. I mean, is there another team in the NFL that's this top heavy quarterback, wide receiver, edge rusher. Is anybody coming close to the Cowboys and how much money they're spending? But you could have got ahead of this. You could have done that with Dak, you could have done that with CD Lamb, and you certainly could have done that with Micah Parsons. Remember this ownership that says they're all in. What does that mean, all in? And then the Bengals, you need defense because the Ravens are going to be a Super bowl contender. The Steelers, probably better than they were last year. Get in front of this now. You know, gone are the. The old school ways of. We're playing hardball with these guys. You know, this. This has to be almost working together, hand in hand, a partnership with these players. Trey Hendrickson wants to be there. You don't act like you want him to be there. Michael Parsons wants to be there. You don't act like you want him to be there or we do. But you're not getting a team friendly deal if I'm Micah Parsons. No way would I give you a team friendly deal. If I was kind of proactive to this months ago. Yes. I mean, look at Mahomes. Mahomes gave the Chiefs a team friendly deal. Why? Because he had trust in the front office. They would continue to surround him with talent. They would be competing for Super Bowls. Now. Yes, it's a 10 year deal for $500 million, but still, I said it at the time, in two or three years this will be a bargain. And that's exactly what's happened with this. But he had trust in ownership, he had trust in his gm, trust in his coach, and look how that's played out. Brady did that. Hey, I'll help you here. But I have trust. I have the best coach in history and I have a great owner, a hall of Fame owner. And I'm going to be competing for championships. And I think it worked out pretty well. Yes, Paulie.

[Marvin Prince]

And you're exactly right about signing early to save a couple bucks. If you go back to Joe Burrow and the Bengals, they signed him a year earlier. They could have waited a whole nother year. He's completely under contract. But they thought, we know what we have. He's a sure thing. We sign him now, we get him at this rate, we sign him a year later, that rate is now 3 million more per year. So they look at as saving money by signing one year early.

[Paul Pabst]

And that could mean the difference of keeping somebody signing somebody and $3 million. But I, once again, I'm not sure I understand the logic of this with the Bengals situation and certainly the Dallas Cowboys. But I will say I think, I don't think Mike Brown is looking for attention. I think Jerry Jones is looking for attention. He loves attention and he got it. And this will pass. That's why when I bring it up, I'm like, gosh, how important is this? Because Micah Parsons will get signed. Yes.

[Seton O'Connor]

I mean, I agree to some extent, but I think you can sign a player early and save a couple of bucks, right? And you sign a four year deal at this rate and then year two, they have the best year of their career. And they say, well, maybe we rearrange year three and I'm just gonna sit out here a year early before we can really start talking about this. I mean, we saw like Darrell Rivas, we've seen people, that dude was a master of holding out. He would sign a 10 year deal and after year two, be like, nope, redo it. Which I'm all for, actually, but there really is no. You can get in early, but that just means that's the earlier. You're going to be renegotiating the back end of that contract.

[Paul Pabst]

But look at what the Eagles did. They got in early, and they got bargains, and they're favored to repeat as a Super bowl champ. I understand what you're saying, and I don't agree with these players who say, hey, I outperform my contract. No, this is the contract you sign. You have to live up to something here because nobody ever gives money back. If Trey hendrickson signs for 35 million, it's not like he's gonna go, hey, I only had four sacks. Wait a minute. You want me to give money back? Yeah.

[Seton O'Connor]

See, this is what drives me crazy. Are we paying for potential or are we paying for performance? Because Trey Hendrickson, he's performed. Now pay the guy who's like, wow.

[Paul Pabst]

Why would we pay him?

[Seton O'Connor]

He's already done everything. He's now.

[Paul Pabst]

He's too old.

[Seton O'Connor]

We already got his best years. We're not gonna pay him now. Well, then which side of it is it? I understand that there's a certain mindset of, like, how about we don't pay anybody ever anything, and we just get them for as cheap as possible? I understand that it's garbage, but I get it. You either have to choose one side of it or the other. You're either choosing them on potential or you're choosing them on performance.

[Paul Pabst]

Well, I think it's the timing of that. But also with Trey Hendrickson, you know, he's 30, if he was 28, then maybe. Maybe it's different. But 30, and you're saying, man, we got 35 sacks out of this guy the last two years. What do we want to give him? Meanwhile, the Steelers looked at TJ Watt, same age, and said, we're going to make you the highest paid defensive player in the game. Highest paid non quarterback in the game. So it. I think it depends on the timing and depends on the organization. Yes.

[Marvin Prince]

Paulie and Miles Garrett, two years younger than Trey Hendrickson. And that's it. It's not even a question that he gets a deal. What if Trey Hendrickson did a deal where he got, I want $3 million per sack. There's the contract. Give me $3 million for the next three season. Contract. $3 million per sack if I get 15 sacks. I've done my job. I'm a first team all pro, and you give me 45 million bucks. Everybody wins.

[Paul Pabst]

I can't do that.

[Marvin Prince]

I know you can't, but it'd be great if you could.

[Paul Pabst]

Now if he said give me 2 million per sack, so that's 30 million and then you could give him another bonus if he makes an All Pro or Pro Bowl. And, and I don't know if you can put that language into contracts or how much you can put into a contract. But you know, that's where a player then gets selfish, where, you know you're asking him to do something or, you know, wide receivers would do that. They come back to the huddle. I got to get my touches, man. You know, I got to get X number of yards, I got to get X number of catches. Then it becomes selfish and it's detrimental to. But I, it is interesting when we talk about, do I pay you on potential, Do I pay you on performance? I think it depends on the team and the age of the player. With that, we'll take a break. We're going to settle on a poll question. We'll come up with a couple options. Sandman will join us. Tyron Matthew announces his retirement as training camp gets ready to start. And we are going to have the hall of Very Good a little bit later on the football version of the hall of Very Good. Take a break. Just getting started on this Wednesday. Glad to have you on board, Dan and the Danettes. Dan Patrick show thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning, 9 to noon Eastern or 6 to 9 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Dan Patrick show at foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.

[Seton O'Connor]

Hey, we're Covino and Rich. Fox Sports radio every day 5 to 7pm Eastern.

[Paul Pabst]

But here's the thing.

[Seton O'Connor]

We never have enough time to get.

[Paul Pabst]

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[Seton O'Connor]

Well, you know what it's called?

[Paul Pabst]

Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships and if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time. It will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promise and also uncensored by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Over Promising. Remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcast Wherever you get your podcasts, life's messy.

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

Ozzy Osbourne passing away yesterday at the age of 76. I believe it's one of those great mysteries that you have. You know, there's certain artists where you go, man, that guy is crazy. And I remember the first time I heard about Ozzy, it's like he bit the head off a bat. And I go, what? And then all of a sudden, he had to get shots, you know, rabies shots, because he bit the head off of. I don't know if he did bite the head off a bat, but there was always this mystery of Ozzy Osbourne. What does he do when he goes home? Does he live in a dungeon? What is he up to? And then all of a sudden, you had the Osbornes that came out totally ruined. What I thought the vibe was going to be with Ozzy Osbourne, where you see this guy kind of shuffling around the kitchen. Sharon got the little dogs that are crapping on the floor, and, you know, he needs help with everything. They. They have to have closed caption putting his, you know, translating what he's saying. And you go, oh, no, that's not our rock star, Ozzy Osbourne. But you couldn't go to a sports venue, it feels like, without hearing Crazy Train from Ozzy Osbourne. It just feels like every team and not just professional teams. And the. The illusion that he gave you, like, Alice Cooper was one of the first artists back in the 70s where he had a guillotine and he, you know, cutting somebody's head off or giving the impression they're snakes and they're. And then I met Alice Cooper in Scottsdale playing golf and could not have been just a. Nor more normal, nice guy drinking Budweisers and. See, sometimes when you. You know, I don't. I don't want to be behind the curtain with some of these artists and realize that, you know, they're into macrame or, you know, they're gonna be knitting or something in a rocking chair or something. Yes.

[Marvin Prince]

Paulie, Fritzi and I were talking about it. We were little kids when Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath were hitting, so we didn't know the music. But you could not know who Ozzy Osbourne was. I remember he was like a nightmare tale for kids. Or remember Keyser Soze? He was this. He's a crazy guy from London who bit a head off a bat in concert. And he was. You didn't have to know anything about music to know who he was and be a little intimidated or scared by his. His presence.

[Paul Pabst]

I heard he got 50 rabies shots.

[Dan Patrick]

In the neck or like, those kind of crazy stories are going around.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, I don't think it was the music as much for a lot of people. Now, obviously, die hard Black Sabbath fans, but I think for the general public, they knew about Ozzy because he supposedly bit the bat, head off a bat. And then people knew him for his show, which was a great reality show. I mean, that was. That was very entertaining. But it did ruin the image of who I thought, you know, Ozzy Osbourne was going to be. You're putting subtitles up there and you're going, I don't know what he said. And they finally put it up there. I think that's what he's saying here. Yes, Marvin. I think Ozzy Osbourne is probably a generational gap for a lot of people, because there's probably younger kids that are like, oh, the guy from the Osbournes. And probably your dads and their moms are like, no, no, no, no, no. He was somebody before the Osborne's reality show. Yeah, Black Sabbath, ozzy, age of 76. And he had one last concert a couple of weeks ago, and I felt bad for him. Now they were raising money, and I think they raised a lot of money. But, I mean, they really had to wheel him out there and. And have him perform one more time. And I and his daughter got engaged, I think, backstage after the show. And I just, I don't know, felt like they were propping him up there. I felt bad for him. But maybe, maybe, you know, he got great joy out of that, that he got to perform one, one last time. Yes, he, he.

[Seton O'Connor]

But whenever I got to see him in concert a couple of times solo and with Black Sabbath, they did like a reunion tour. And that was just. Seeing Ozzy was one thing, but Black Sabbath, it was. Even though he was reading off the prompter, he was still Ozzy. Like this version of Ozzy where he really couldn't move, he couldn't do whatever. It was still incredible where you're like, that's him. That's him right there. And that's like, Tony Iommi. This is Black Sabbath. And they're playing Paranoid. This is unbelievable. But what an incredible moment. And to have that type of. You know, it must have been 40 years since that album came out. That came out in, like 70, I guess. Just seeing him and it. All of that mystery. Even if it had been gone a little bit, it was still Ozzy and it was still that moment.

[Paul Pabst]

Guy.

[Seton O'Connor]

It was great.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, Paulie.

[Marvin Prince]

And in the past 20 years, I looked it up, a lot of Black Sabbath songs have been used in different movies, big movies. The Biggest one being the movie Iron Man. They don't use the song at all. They use Back in Black during this movie. But at the very end, when Tony Stark goes I am Iron man, they cut to the credits and they play Iron man to end the movie. And it's just perfect timing.

[Paul Pabst]

All right, 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP show ratings for the British Open, the championship, up 21%. How about that? So you had a foregone conclusion and people still watch. Now, I don't know if people watch more people watch because you're looking at a golf course that's unlike our golf courses. This is link style. It's on the water. You know, you're looking at fairways that don't look like fairways. The bunkers are different than ours. Greens are sometimes huge. But people watched. They watched Scotty Scheffler. Now, do I think he's a ratings draw like Tiger? No. Nobody is. But the fact that the ratings were up 21% and I think up maybe 14% on Sunday, when I think everybody knew Scotty Scheffler was going to win the ratings for the WNBA All Star Game, they were down 35% over last year. See, this is a. This is a tricky time for the WNBA because they are looking for more money. They should be paid more money. I just think there has to be an awareness around the league of it's not a house of cards, but you do need Caitlin Clark. You need her. And I don't know if everybody looks at this the same way, because there's a lot of players and teams that are very good, but there have been players and teams that have been very good for the last 20 years. You got to be careful with this. Embrace those that need to be embraced. Now, I'm not saying different rules. I'm not saying officiate differently, but I am saying embracing what she means. And even Angel Reese, Angel Reese, you know, she brings people to the TVs, she brings people to the arenas. She's not a dynamic player, but she is a personality. And she plays hard. But understanding that the league has had this. They've had teams, they've had hall of Fame players. They've never had Caitlin Clark. And it just feels like there's this. Yeah. Kind of tolerating Caitlin Clark. These numbers are real. The number of people who were interested in watching this. This isn't those who showed up at the arena Indianapolis. This is those watching tv. Those numbers. That's A subtle reminder of be careful, be careful that you don't kill the golden goose.

[Marvin Prince]

Yes, Paulie, I know it's apples and oranges and not comparing the two athletes, but the past 25 years, when Tiger woods would not be present for a major, the casual fan skipped it. And that took a little off the top of the numbers. WNBA fans, they still watch the WNBA All Star Game, but when Tiger would be out for a major, it took just a little heat off it and it showed up in the ratings.

[Paul Pabst]

Well, you're looking for the casual sports fan. There were fans who watched, who weren't golfers when Tiger was Tiger. You have basketball fans maybe that begrudgingly watch, but then I think when they watch, they realize how talented these women are. You just have to get people to watch a game. You have to get them to go to a game or watch. Watch the tv. This is, you know, those numbers. That's real. And Caitlin Clark has been injured all season long, not able to play. We thought that it was going to be a big bonanza playing in, you know, her town, Indianapolis, but 35% ratings down from the previous year. All right, poll question. Seton, what are we going to go with? Hour one.

[Seton O'Connor]

See, if your team could only sign one all pro for the same money. Just sign a wide receiver or a defensive end.

[Paul Pabst]

So do I want Justin Jefferson or Miles Garrett? We say that you could say that. You could. Man, I'm going to take Miles Garrett because I don't think there's that many of those guys. I think we have a lot of wide receivers. Justin Jefferson is, you know, is he better than Jamar Chase? I mean, we could go down the list and say we could group. CD Lamb. There's. There's wide receivers you can group in there, but, you know, Miles Garrett, T.J. watt, Michael Parsons, I mean, that's about it. Nick Bosa, Max Crosby kind of in there as well. I'd probably take a guy who I know can impact every single play because he has to. He's on defense. Whereas Justin Jefferson, how many plays will he influence now? Is he going to take maybe two defenders with him and help somebody else? Does that help in the running game where the defensive backs are playing back a little bit further? I understand all of that, but I think, like Aaron Donald, to me, you can make a case was the best player in the NFL, most valuable player in the NFL from the standpoint of he. It felt like impacted every single play one way or another, he was going to impact two guys had to block him, and he was still going to disrupt the play. We don't hand out MVPs to defensive players, but he was one of those guys that you had to know where he was every single play. Even if you did, he was going to be a disruptor. You don't have too many of those players. Justin Jefferson is spectacular. But if you said, I get Jamar Chase and you get Justin Jefferson, I'm okay with that. Miles Garrett. I would probably say I'd take him over Justin Jefferson. Let me get a couple of phone calls in here. By the way, Andrew in Washington. Good morning, Andrew. Welcome back. Good morning, Dan Dennett. Thanks for taking my call. It's great to be back. Just had two comments. One on Jerry Jones, one on the Rich Eisen show being sore losers. But Jerry Jones, he just seems like that guy in the neighborhood that wants everybody to know he can pay whatever he wants or something, that he's the richest man on the block. No matter what he does, he will always end up getting what he wants. It doesn't matter how much they pay for, but everybody talks in the neighborhood behind his back. Like, dang, Jerry, why are you paying so much for that stuff? I can get that stuff no matter what, or I can get a better version of it for cheaper. So I just kind of see him as that old man that just wants to spend his money. Rich Eisen Show. I went back and watched it again as far as the Family Feud, and yeah, they were icy. In the end of game celebration, like you said, Dan, there must have been some talk going on because you look.

[Dan Patrick]

At you guys, you guys are happy.

[Paul Pabst]

You want to receive them. You want to shake some hands. You guys did it for charity. Their guys looked a little icy. If you go back and watch it. Yeah. Oh, I know. I felt it. I'm actually jumping up and down celebrating with Fritzi. And one of Rich's producers, he said, you know, and he started to talk about they. They gave Fritzi a second chance. You're not supposed to get a second chance. I'm like, I'm. I'm celebrating here. We're jumping up and down. We're on TV right now. How about you act enthused? We're on tv. Fake it. Fake it a little bit here. Come on. You're better than that. Le Cheryl in Georgia. Hi, La Cheryl. Hi. Five, seven and a half and an amazing 209.

[Dan Patrick]

First, first, my condolences to the Osborne.

[Paul Pabst]

As well as the Warner families and.

[Dan Patrick]

Their huge fan bases who have lost.

[Paul Pabst]

Their loved ones over the weekend. My heart and prayer Prayers are with them.

[Dan Patrick]

I am calling this morning as well.

[Paul Pabst]

To wish my husb.

[Dan Patrick]

Husband, Mr. Bill Badgett, my man, my.

[Paul Pabst]

Man, my man who's a long time.

[Dan Patrick]

Hardcore DP show fan. A wonderful happy 38th birthday from myself and our 2 year old, Harper Rose. Harper, can you tell daddy happy birthday?

[Paul Pabst]

How about that? La Cheryl. Thank you, that's very nice. Was it Harper Rose? Is that the two year old, two year old thing? Yeah, Very nice. So it's a Bill. It's Bill's birthday. Lacheryl.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. 38.

[Paul Pabst]

Alrighty. 38th birthday. Here we go. Happy birthday. Thank you. She's gonna love this. You're welcome. Very sweet. Very sweet. David in Ohio. Hi David, what's on your mind today? Hey, Dan. Yeah, piggybacking on what the other caller said. Yeah, Rich Eisen, he seems to be a little bit salty, but he comes from went to school at Michigan which is known for cheating and scandal. And I just think he's just hanging out with. Hanging out with Connor stallions a little bit too much. So I think maybe he just needs to get off the crazy train. Ozzy Osborne reference. Rest in peace. Thank you. All right. Thank you, David. Thank you.

[Seton O'Connor]

Yes, if I'm not mistaken, Rich's quote was. I'm sorry Dan, I can't hear you with the ring in my ear. After Michigan had won that title and been accused of cheating all around that same time. Is that what you're saying to Rich right now? Rich, I'm sorry, I can't hear you with the ringing in my celebrity family feud here.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, and. And Rich stealing the line from Patrick wa when he used that with his. His super Stanley cup ring. So. So there's Rich, but you know he's taking from Patrick was line that couldn't hear sampling I guess is what. I don't know why they want to make this a few but they seem hell bent on. They're basically calling I think Steve Harvey a cheater that he helped cheat to help us with. I think that's what they're saying. Am I interpreting that correctly? Because you're saying that somehow, some way, Steve Harvey wanted us to win.

[Marvin Prince]

Paul, Steve doesn't make the call. Mr. Harvey doesn't make the call on the set. There's producers back there who say what to do. It was a blip moment where Fritzi had an answer that was up there and they said no, give me another. That was the entire thing. We go by what they tell us to do.

[Paul Pabst]

They've done that before. Correct from what we've been told by expert witnesses that they've seen Steve do that before. But cheating? I think we took advantage of something, maybe, but not cheat, because we didn't know we did anything wrong. Kenny in Indiana. Hi, Kenny. What's on your mind? Good morning, everybody. Two quick things. You know Rich Eisen's group, it's no worse than a bad call that went your way instead of their way. Get over it. Good grief. And in tribute to Ozzy Osborne, you ought to have your crack research team dig up his rendition of Take Me out to the Ball Game that he sung at Wrigley Field. The poor man didn't even remember the words. Yeah, that one was tough. That one's that's up there. And seventh inning stretch lore at Wrigley Field. All right, we'll take a break. We'll get some more phone calls. Adam Sandler is going to join us. Coming up next hour, the Sandman and Play of the Day. Up next. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning, 9 until noon Eastern, 6 to 9 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live every day at YouTube.com thedanpatrickshow Tired.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. For my Heart podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the Turning River Road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor? But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt. For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey. Listen to the Turning river road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Roubais and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers and more to explore explore the stories that shape us on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving booktok theories and obsessing over book to screen casts for years. And now I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character or cried at the last chapter or passed a book to a friend saying you have to read this, this podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book club on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts are wherever you get your podcasts. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline I think in the New York Daily News, it's Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Cappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Paul Pabst]

Of the day. This is the play of the day. Check this out.

[Dan Patrick]

Here comes the two.

[Paul Pabst]

Two swung on. Blasted lift off right field. This one is gonna go. It is out of here.

[Dan Patrick]

Cal Raleigh, number 39 on the season.

[Paul Pabst]

And he has given the Mariners the lead with one big swing as courtesy of the Mariners radio network. The big dumper, as they like to call him. Cal Raleigh, 39th home run of the season. That is your play of the day. Tire rack's been doing it for over 40 years. The right tires for how and what and where you drive, ship fast and free, backed by free road hazard protection. Convenient installation options like mobile tire installation. Tirerack.com the way tire buying should be. A nickname is so important to certain players, like Honey Badger, Tyron Matthew, who just retired. You knew him. He was a Heisman finalist. He was Honey Badger, the Big Dumper. I mean, Cal Raleigh's playing in Seattle, so not exactly your media capital. Getting a lot of attention there, but getting a lot or more attention because of the nickname. Now he is performing well, 39 home runs, pretty incredible. But you also, you have the nickname there. It just helps. I wonder about this. Like Hootie and the Blowfish, if they were just called whatever, you know, throw out a name, it just wouldn't be the same. You know, Hootie and the Blowfish stood out because you're thinking, all right, is Darius Hootie, and they're the Blowfish. And it's neither. It's really. They had two friends in college. One was named Hootie and one was named Blowfish. And they decided to call the band that. But if it's just, you know, four generic guys with a name now, they did have some hits. But I do think having the name, the nickname or band name is really important sometimes because he would just be Cal Raleigh. Oh, who's the guy who plays in Seattle? He Was hitting all the home runs. Oh, it's the big dumper. Yes. Marvin. That's like a guy like Frank Thomas. Somebody went to high school with somebody named Frank Thomas. But the Big Hurt. The nickname made it. Yeah. I mean, Dion with Prime. I mean, there's just certain nickname. Ali was the greatest. You know, some of those people already had the attention. But it's the guys who were kind of on the periphery where you go, who's the guy? And then you might remember the nickname, like Honey Badger. If I said Tyron, Matthew retired, and you'd be like, oh, who's that? Honey Badger. Honey Badger retired. Yeah, he did. Yeah. Paul.

[Marvin Prince]

And good players or semi great players can be emboldened by that nickname. If you say, hey, David Ortiz, I ran into him. But if you say Big Poppy. Everyone knows who Big Poppy is. You barely need to know baseball or the big unit. Randy Johnson had a look. He was tall, he was wild. He was. But then you throw in the big unit. Or Oil Can Boyd. There's a picture of Dennis Boyd for the Red Sox years and years ago. Oil Can Boyd was cool and it gave him a hook.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah. I don't even know what his stats were. I just knew that Oil Can Boyd because he drank these beers that look like a can of motor oil. I think that's how he got his nickname. Yes. Marvin.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul Pabst]

George Ruth. That's not moving me. But Babe Ruth for sure. Lou Gehrig, the Ironman. He was the original Iron Man. Yeah. Having that nickname, that's helped. Cal Raleigh here, 39 home runs. Let's see. Quentin in Arkansas. Hi, Quentin. What's on your mind today? Hey, good morning, Dan. 59160. I wanted to kind of touch base on the Nielsen ratings that you'd mentioned with the Open as well as the wnba. So I'm in the industry. And one of the things Nielsen did in the last couple of months is they unveiled their new kind of big data panel hybrid service where it blends traditional sampling with first party data from all these streaming platforms. So I guess I want to propose the question we really seeing these big swings and in recent months where every big event is setting all these Nielsen ratings. Or is it? We're just getting better at kind of collecting this data with the way that we consume sporting events now. Thanks. Thank you, Quinton. I think we're better at gathering the data. Remember you used to have a Nielsen box? You had to kind of log what you watched. I mean, it was an inexact science, but there was a lot attached to the Nielsen ratings. I think, trying to get the streaming part, you know, platforms and being able to gather that information. But, you know, these are. Sometimes the numbers are really good, or, you know, a football game, it's on Amazon. And what's the number going to be where, you know, traditional media like NBC, but, you know, we were looking at Scottie Scheffler and that the ratings are up, you know, 21%. Caitlin Clark not playing in the WNBA All Star game, they're down 35%. So you can't say, oh, yeah, the numbers are getting bigger and better. When the WNBA, that's a huge drop, 35% over the previous year. Yeah, Paulie.

[Marvin Prince]

And I think Ohtani would and is having that effect with baseball if he's in the World Series. It truly is a World Series. And the casual fan wants to see Ohtani do both this year in the World Series because it appears he's going to pitch in the postseason.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, I mean, there's only a couple athletes like that. There's only been a couple athletes through history where we're watching because they're playing. Jordan, you watch because he was playing. Tiger, you watch because he was playing. I mean, the numbers will, you know, prove that. Bear that out. Caitlin Clark, when she plays the numbers, they bear that out. But, you know, it's a handful that you have. But as far as Nielsen ratings, it was just like an inexact. I think we got a Nielsen box one time growing up. We forgot the law. We didn't write stuff down. We had no. I don't know. Hey, we watched Gunsmoke. Okay? Write it down. We watched Gilligan's Island. I don't know what it did for those ratings. If anything, we probably screwed them up. Let's see. Billy in Washington. Hi, Billy. Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

How are we doing, brother?

[Paul Pabst]

Good. Hey, I just want to give. I just want to give a quick shout out to. To my boy Seaton in the back there. Hot Water Music. Best band and in my lifetime, Chuck is the man. And love you guys. Peace. All right. Well, thank you, Billy. That's Seaton's band. All right. Shout out.

[Seton O'Connor]

Hot Water music.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah.

[Seton O'Connor]

Lads are on tour now. Check social media for dates.

[Paul Pabst]

Okay. You want to update the poll results from the first hour?

[Seton O'Connor]

That's. I would love to. Is Hot Water music the greatest band ever? Yes and yes. If my team could only sign one all pro for the same money. Wide receiver or defensive end. DN's running away with it. 79% of that vote. That makes sense.

[Paul Pabst]

By the way, Rich Hill, 45 years of age, pitched for the Royals last night. Five innings, he gave up six hits, one earned run and his fastest pitch was 91 miles per hour. 45 years of age. Good for him. Bringing some cheese there over 90 miles an hour at 45. Love it. All right, one hour in the books on this Wednesday. Two more to go, including coming up in 30 minutes from now. Adam Sandler will stop by. Fritz, he's here. Seton, Marv, Paulie, yours truly. Hour two, the Dan Patrick Show. After this.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Seton O'Connor]

It was just me naked.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts. This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope about the rise of deepfake pornography and the battle to stop it. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robaix and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. The new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart Podcast where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page and off each week. I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry and add way too many books to your TBR pile. Listen to bookmarks by Reese's Book club on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts are wherever you get your podcasts. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and left a woman behind to drown. Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week, we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast. You, the listener, ask the questions. Did George Washington really cut down a cherry tree? Were JFK and Marilyn Monroe having an affair? And I find the answers. I'm so glad you asked me this question. This is such a ridiculous story. You can listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.