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Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's hour one on this Tuesday. The college football season has a period at the end of the sentence, it's over. Back to back national titles for the Big Ten. Wonder what SEC commissioner Greg Sankey is thinking because it used to be the SEC was the powerhouse, but once everybody got an opportunity to pay players and transfer portal, all of a sudden, nil, that changed things dramatically. Welcome to the program. 876-8773-DP shows.
Paul Pabst
Everyone got the chance to pay here.
Dan Patrick
8773-Dp-Show, 10 guy email, Ohio. Danny just showed up. Oh, let's go. Yeah. Oh, DP. O h, I owe a debt of gratitude to the Big Ten. The Ohio State is back. Who cares about a loss to Michigan? You win the national championship. We will dissect that coming up. And your phone call is always welcome. 8773 DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, the talented Christopher Mad Dog Russo. A little bit later on Rick Neuheisel, CBS Sports will stop by as well. Operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Today. Seaton will have the poll question. The minister of humor is here. Marvin Paulie, backroom guys and yours truly, Notre Dame. That was a good year. If I would have said back in that weekend when they lost in Northern Illinois they're going to play for national championship, you probably would have thought not this year. Ohio State beating Michigan. And if I would have said after that game, hey, don't worry, they're going to win the national title. After they lost to Michigan, they're going to win the national title. You have these moments. The question is how do you react after those moments? After those games, Notre Dame reacted and won and continued to win. And Marcus Freeman is a star in the sport. Ryan Day, the embattled Ryan Day, you lose to Michigan again. If you don't have a 12 team playoff, you may not have Ryan Day winning a national championship this year in Fact, you probably don't. But this is college football now. Who knows what it's going to be like next year or in five years from now. But give credit to Ohio State because they were the better team. Last night when it was 31 7, I kept thinking, all right, Ohio State, just maybe another field goal so I can go to bed. And then all of a sudden, here comes Notre Dame, and then here comes Notre Dame. And then all of a sudden, I'm going, what's the point spread? Eight and a half. Oh, my goodness. Now I'm watching. And I thought, if they don't get that third and nine when they throw it to Jeremiah Smith, now all of a sudden you got some people going, all right, there's a lot of money. The COVID of the year. When you think about it, it's 31 to 7 and you're going, I'm good. I. All these Ohio State fans, they laid the eight and a half. They're like, this is going to be a blowout. Halftime. High fiving each other. Yeah. Hey, I got your beers. Marcus Freeman comes out. Second half, Notre Dame head coach. He looked like he had just been in the washing machine. It was like, what just happened? And then they got a couple of plays, made it interesting, and Ohio State did what they needed to do with a crucial, I mean, going for it. Third and nine. Here's Ryan Day with that call on the completion of Jeremiah Smith.
Paul Pabst
We felt like we had an advantage.
Dan Patrick
With Jeremiah on that shot.
Paul Pabst
And, you know, we talked about it all week, really hadn't thrown one all game, and it was like, you know, what game on the line, you know, let's go.
Dan Patrick
Let's just be aggressive.
Paul Pabst
And I just thought to myself, you.
Dan Patrick
Know, you only one national championship, you only get one opportunity, you know, a year to do this.
Paul Pabst
Let's just lay it on the line.
Dan Patrick
And put it out there and be aggressive. And that's what we did. Yeah, third and long, and they were aggressive. Notre Dame would have gotten the ball back. They'd have had about two minutes to go. Maybe. Maybe we could have had a dramatic finish. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. First hour of the program brought to you by Rapid Radios, the official walkie talkie for the Dan Patrick Show. Instant push to talk, offering national LTE coverage. No subscriptions ever. Perfect for instant contact with your friends. And you can go to rapidradios.com 60% off and free shipping. All right, Seton poll question for hour one is going to be.
Paul Pabst
Okay, well, we've got one from here from Marvin, We've got a bunch from Todd. Paul has checked in. Where would you like to start, Dan?
Dan Patrick
I'm going to go Marvin. Because it's rare when Marvin offers up something poll question wise.
Paul Pabst
If you're an Ohio State fan, you'd rather lose to Michigan but win a.
Dan Patrick
National title or beat Michigan and lose.
Paul Pabst
In the college football playoffs.
Dan Patrick
I think this is crazy that there are fans. It's so important to beat Michigan. That has been your identity. And yeah, we won a national title, but you need to beat Michigan. If you said to Ohio State fans, you're going to lose again to Michigan next year, but you're going to play for the national championship, you have to play for a national championship. You would think you would, you would think. But you know, fan bases, the old school fan base, how important it was because it used to be if you lost that game, you weren't playing for a national championship. That was the importance of it. Now with the 12 team playoff, 14 team playoff, 16 team playoff, okay, you lose bragging rights there. But man, that national title, that'll cure everything. That's the great elixir, a national title. Yes.
Paul Pabst
Paulie, I have an idea. I'm going to present it to you specifically because you know Ohio State and the history. Okay, today is the day to start de emphasizing the Michigan game going forward. Step. You are the national title holders. You're on full scholarship now. Going forward, you've got the big payroll. Start using the word Michigan when you talk about them. Don't say the team up north. Start saying Michigan like you would say Ohio State, like you'd say Purdue or Iowa, Wisconsin. Treat them all the same.
Dan Patrick
But why can't you have both? Why can't this still mean so much? But the national title is more important than that.
Paul Pabst
Because like we've been saying, it's meaning a little too much the past decade. Start deemphasizing it and making another game beat them. You're going to beat them or not either way. But start saying Michigan, Iowa, Purdue. Step one.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, won't happen.
Paul Pabst
Not the team up north.
Dan Patrick
Not, not going to happen. Just not. Not.
Paul Pabst
Don't fight it.
Dan Patrick
I know. Just saying, hey, I'm not one of those that would go, boy, I'd rather beat Michigan and then win a national title. That's silly.
Paul Pabst
I want to follow up on that.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Paul Pabst
There's no one who really believes that that' a perception of the national media about Ohio State fans. Maybe, maybe because I can't Imagine an Ohio State fan today going, you know what? If I could have a do over this year, I would wax Michigan and take it on the chin of Notre Dame.
Dan Patrick
Yes, right.
Paul Pabst
But like, Michigan fans are somehow taking a little bit of a victory lap too, being like, yeah, but we beat.
Dan Patrick
The national champ, so I guess we really are like.
Paul Pabst
Which is absurd. That's.
Dan Patrick
I get how.
Paul Pabst
Tongue in cheek that is too. But these two fan bases are that crazy that somehow they find a way to take losses and make them wins depending on those circumstances.
Dan Patrick
Oh, if I'm Michigan, I'm taking a victory lap. Oh, heck, yes. You know, you had a bad season, couldn't find a quarterback. First year without Jim Harbaugh, and you beat Ohio State at Ohio State. And this was brought up to me by a former Ohio State player last night. And he said, you know what changed? When Michigan tried to plant the flag, he said, that changed. This football team, all of a sudden they, in their minds became an us against the world. And they were underdogs somehow. And I said, okay, I mean, I'll factor that in. That all of a sudden Jack Sawyer's grabbing the Michigan flag and throwing it away. And now all of a sudden there's a different purpose with Ohio State. Sure. Okay. I mean, if you feel that that was a seismic shift with his team. They became a little bit more, I don't know, together, but there's so much talent there. That's why, you know, when we look at Ohio State, it's hard to say that they were an underdog. I mean, they're incredible. You know, you poached guys from around the country, you spent over 20 million. I mean, you should be great. The fact that you couldn't come up with an offense against Michigan, that was what was mind boggling here. I know you lose to Oregon, but that was a close game at Oregon. This was a great team. Yes, Marvin.
Paul Pabst
So last night Ohio State was David, not Notre Dame.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Okay.
Paul Pabst
Just making sure.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, well, David got knocked down. David didn't have a slingshot. And then all of a sudden David had a shotgun. And then you're like, here comes David. And David's going to put some heat on Ohio State. But Ohio State was the better team. Can't imagine that somebody's going, yeah, but we better beat Michigan next year. I don't know if there's pressure on Ryan Day. And once again, I grew up in this environment. I grew up in Ohio. I understand that feeling. When Michigan would beat Ohio State and it ruined your college football season, but I can't imagine somebody like next year, if Ohio State doesn't beat Michigan, that Ryan Day is all of a sudden going to be on the hot seat again. Are we reheating Ryan Day?
Paul Pabst
Defrosting?
Dan Patrick
Yes. Yeah.
Paul Pabst
How in the world can that even be a conversation today?
Dan Patrick
I, trust me, we get to next season and if that happens, then we will be discussing that. People will discuss that about Ryan Day, Rick New Heisel a little bit later on and I got a couple of questions for him. And I have great respect for Rick, one of the smartest college football guys I know. I'm watching Jeremiah Smith and he's a freshman. If I said, let's say the Patriots, you can have Travis Hunter or Jeremiah Smith, who would you take with that second pick overall? Is that what it is? Who would you take? Because you got a two way star or you have this guy who's great. So we'll talk to New Heisel also. Who is more likely to go to the NFL first, Ryan Day or Marcus Freeman? How about that? Patriots have the fourth pick here, but so we'll talk to Rick Newheiser a little bit later on.
Paul Pabst
Yes, Polly, I was thinking about Nil and Jeremiah Smith as a freshman. What is his retention fee to stay at Ohio State?
Dan Patrick
But if you're Georgia, oh, like you, you at least have to, you won a national title at Ohio State, so they can't be that mad. If you say, you know what, I got to do something for my family now. I'm a, I'm a freshman. If you say that, I would, I mean, I'd at least kick the tires on it. Just say, how much am I worth? How much am I worth? I don't know. I mean, is he worth what a quarterback's worth? I'd say yes. My surprise is in the previous, but my, my surprise is against Texas. I think he had three targets. I, I, I mean, that to me is criminal. I would, I'd get him the ball no matter what. Like there's certain players where you go, I'm going to devise things to get you the ball. You have Chip Kelly devise something and that's what amazed me. I will use him as a decoy. Nah, let's just use him as the best player on the field. They went to him last night. I still would have gone to him more. Notre Dame plays man coverage. I would have gone to him and I would have kept going to him until they put two guys on him and then I'd take advantage elsewhere.
Paul Pabst
Yeah, Paul, I know all is well in Ohio State land today. But let's say Jeremiah Smith doesn't catch that ball or they target someone else. Notre Dame gets the ball back and sends us to overtime. I know it's unlikely, but the math was there. That Notre Dame can win. That Jeremiah Smith had one second half target.
Dan Patrick
I don't get that.
Paul Pabst
I was sitting there thinking about the downside and I was like, if Ohio State loses this game, it's going to be catastrophic if their star player had one or fewer targets in the second half.
Dan Patrick
I don't. I don't understand it. I'm, you know, I'm sure there's a lot of smarter people than me that could tell me, but I have to get him the ball. Have to like. Remarkable, though. I mean, when they did go to him, he made the great catch and you know, his man coverage. All right. Yes. Marvin. Sorry, one more thing. Yes?
Paul Pabst
Is it too early to play the career salary game with Jeremiah Smith? You should change the S and put a dollar sign.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. What's he worth? $10 million. Is that fair? I mean, quarterbacks get six, $7 million. There's nobody like him in the country. I don't. I'm sure Ohio State fans hate hearing about, what if you're Michigan? What if you're Michigan and you go, hey, how much we got in the collective? Hey, can you call Larry Ellison again? You know, one of the five richest people in the world and a booster there at Notre Dame, or his wife went to Michigan. Hey, Larry, we need $10 million. Which for Jeremiah Smith. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Paul Pabst
Yes, Paulie, I have on three.com their nil valuations and they're very spot on. Arch Manning is number one, Carson Beck number two. Jeremiah Smith, the wide receiver is number three. His nil valuation is four to five million dollars. He's the only non quarterback in the top 12.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, well, what's he worth now? All right. Eight, seven, seven, three DP show. We'll get to other possible poll questions. Yes, Todd, what would it be a reasonable number to leave one school for.
Paul Pabst
Your arch rivals where you can feel comfortable with that and not get destroyed if you care about your social following, what people think of you.
Dan Patrick
I would not go to Michigan. I'd go south. He's from Florida. I'd go south. Well, if Michigan gave you like three.
Paul Pabst
$4 million more, is that enough? And you're not getting that money anywhere else for whatever reason.
Dan Patrick
I think you somebody's going to match the offer. But I would be. I'd be curious. What is it costing Ohio State to keep him and does anybody reach out to him or one of his middlemen or agents or whatever? All right, we'll take a break. Just getting started. Phone calls. Everybody's all fired up today. We'll get to phone calls coming up. We're back after this Dan Patrick show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino.
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Dan Patrick
Ohio state is the third two loss national champion since 1936. LSU in 2007 and Minnesota back in 1960. You know, Minnesota used to be a powerhouse, like a serious powerhouse. I think they won two or three national championships in a row, but a long, long time ago. But you don't think about Minnesota and go, boy. Now that's a great football team. Minnesota won national titles in 1940 and 1941, Ohio State one in 1942, and then you had Minnesota in 1960. You wouldn't expect Minnesota having a couple of national championships. All right, we got to settle on a poll question Marvin already offered up. What was your poll question suggestion?
Paul Pabst
Would you rather have Michigan if you're Ohio State?
Dan Patrick
Okay. Would you rather. Would you rather lose to Michigan and win a national title or vice versa? Matt in Ohio. Hi, Matt. What's on your mind today? Good morning, Dan.
Paul Pabst
How you guys doing today?
Dan Patrick
Great, great, great, awesome. Great city.
Paul Pabst
Alima, Ohio, is where I'm calling from.
Dan Patrick
So we are.
Paul Pabst
We are on the map a little.
Dan Patrick
Bit between Ann Arbor, Michigan and Columbus.
Paul Pabst
So we get a little bit of everything. As far as Michigan fans, Ohio State.
Dan Patrick
Fans, Notre Dame fans.
Paul Pabst
To answer Marvin's poll question, the Michigan.
Dan Patrick
Game, to me, and as it's starting.
Paul Pabst
To lose, a little bit of relev.
Dan Patrick
Still be a great game.
Paul Pabst
But the people that are waking up this morning and trying to tell me, and I've heard all morning long, that.
Dan Patrick
It'S still a staying national championship because.
Paul Pabst
You couldn't beat Michigan, it doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter.
Dan Patrick
I don't get it.
Paul Pabst
I don't understand where that's coming from.
Dan Patrick
But I do in a way. But I always say regular season games.
Paul Pabst
Are like the JV game.
Dan Patrick
You can win that all you want.
Paul Pabst
But nobody came on a Friday night in high school gym to watch the JV game. They watched the varsity game. That's what the national championship was last night.
Dan Patrick
All right, thank you, Matt. By the way, whenever I think of Lima, Ohio, I think of the Thomas Crown Affair, because in the movie, in the beginning, they pronounce it Lima, Ohio. And it bothered me the entire movie, and that's saying a lot, because Rene Russo was topless at one point in the movie. I'm still thinking about Lima or Lima, Ohio. So the Thomas Crown Affair, that Pierce Brosnan was in that with Renee Russo. But they. They say, oh, Lima, Ohio. And I go, oh, no, no, no, no. It's Lima. Jamie in Ohio. Hi, Jamie. What's on your mind today? Good morning. Actually, it's Jamie, like, in. In the middle. Not Janie's got a Gun. Yeah, exactly.
Paul Pabst
Exactly.
Dan Patrick
Okay. Good morning. Long, long, long time listener, first time caller. I am bleeding scarlet and gray. I live in Columbus, Ohio. Alumni of Ohio State. But I gotta tell you, Dan, I'm a little bit sad this morning, and I'm kind of mad about it. I feel that somehow there's this huge narrative of, like, the High State Buckeyes won, but their fans are so stupid. And like, being a fan, lifelong fan, I've had heartbreak after heartbreak after heartbreak, and it was so wonderful to win, but I kept hearing this stuff that you guys are even saying, which is like, you know, they'd rather beat Michigan, you know, and looks like they're idiots. They're a bunch of idiots. And I think it is such a small, tiny voice that the national media likes to take as a narrative because it makes a good story. But I don't think that those people are idiots. They're, they're delusional that they get caught up in something. It's a myopic view of, of your season. It's about Michigan. It used to be about Michigan and not. I'm not saying this about you, Janie, but it, it used to be that was your identity. Did you beat Michigan? That's not your identity anymore. Because we do have a 12 team playoff and therefore that's why they won a national championship. If you didn't have it and it was just the top two teams or maybe the top four, then, then you're going to keep that as your identity of beating Michigan. But that's not the case anymore. I think that's exactly right. And I think that will probably play out as this new era comes in.
Paul Pabst
You're right.
Dan Patrick
For so many years. I'm 60 years old, so I remember so much the 70s and 80s where really you had to beat Michigan to do anything. And honestly, there weren't national championship, it was just going to the Rose Bowl. So you had to make those things that we don't have to do it anymore. But I think it'll still be a rival, a rivalry, but I think people.
Paul Pabst
Make it what it has to be. And when that's all you had, that.
Dan Patrick
Was live or die with that. Okay, after you lost to Michigan, what did you think was going to happen to Ryan Day? Gosh, I was. I don't know. I really hated it, frankly, because I'm a very sensitive Ohio State fan and I don't like when fans go against each other.
Paul Pabst
So it was.
Dan Patrick
I felt like it was very divisive here where some people. And I think it was out of pain and frustration and knowing how good this team was and just thinking that for whatever reason, Ryan Day is a good coach, he's a good guy, but he cannot beat Michigan. And I think right after that game, that was what was bubbling up. But Janie, you know what's going to happen next year if Michigan beats Ohio State? How are fans going to react to that? Exactly.
Paul Pabst
Yeah, well, and it's.
Dan Patrick
Yes, you're. You're exactly right. And Ohio State's beat Michigan a lot in the last 20 years. And sometimes I think younger people forget. I mean, I went through all the Cooper years when we couldn't beat Michigan.
Paul Pabst
So I think you get used to.
Dan Patrick
Something that you've had and then when you see it not happen, you think, oh, my God, we, you know, what is this? The earth is ending? But it's kind of how rivalries go. Well, I'm glad that we have that rivalry. And Janie, congratulations. Thanks for the phone call. I'm. We don't have many rivalries. I like that it means something. Now. Does it mean a little too much to some people, yes. But I do think this is the minority fan base that it might mean more to then somehow winning a national championship. I don't think you can paint, you know, the entire fan base that way. It's weird. It should be joy, it should be celebrating. And so what if Michigan beat you? I mean, you got the ultimate scoreboard. You won the national championship. Marcus Freeman was talking about being aggressive when Ohio State had third and long late in the game. And if they somehow stopped them, they got a chance to maybe, you know, score touchdown and get a two point conversion tie this game. But Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame coach, talked about blitzing on that critical third down play. Yeah, we. It was do or die.
Paul Pabst
It was that type of down.
Dan Patrick
And you know, if they run it, you know, when they get a first down, you're going to, we gotta get him stopped. And we thought at that moment the best way to get him stopped is to run zero pressure. And we have to have faith at some point that we can make a play.
Paul Pabst
And there was times in the second.
Dan Patrick
Half that we did in man coverage.
Paul Pabst
But you know, he's a heck of a player.
Dan Patrick
He's difficult to cover. You want to play zone and they'll find ways to pick you apart. You want to play man, you know, they find ways to get him the ball. And so it's a talented offense, but that's that situation right there. Judkins was wonderful. Could have given him mvp. He was, he was great. He was great. But that, that's a talented team. A really, really talented team. It's one of those where you see the end result and you go, how did they lose? How were they shut down at home against Michigan? Now Michigan is always great defensively, but it felt like Ohio State outsmarted Ohio State going into that game or in that game. And then the Oregon game, cross country Oregon, you know, that was great. It was great to see Oregon winning that game. And it kind of set up the entire season of how good is Oregon and how good is Ohio State? But we're starting to see that you're going to have more of these where teams get picked off because, you know, the talent is spread around the country. It's not just loaded up with a couple of schools. I mean, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, maybe usc, maybe Penn State, Clemson maybe like you're, it's kind of the same, but then you're going to get a couple of outliers there. Arizona State, who would have thought? Boise State, who would have thought? That's the fun part of this as we move forward. And I do think it's not going to be a surprise to have a team that has two losses that wins the national championship again because it's a longer season, more games, playoff games. And I just, I think, I think that's what the new norm of college football is going to be. Yeah, Paulie.
Paul Pabst
And a team like Ohio State can win a national title with a good 23 year old quarterback. Maybe not a five star recruit, which Will Howard wasn't, but a guy who just played like 40 games for Kansas State, comes in and plays good football with tons of talent around him.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, and he played well, but he's not a big time recruit. I mean, he's at Kansas State now. I watched him at Kansas State, but I have no life and I'm usually watching, you know, those kind of games. And I knew he had athleticism. Riley Leonard was great. He was a lot of fun. Notre Dame got their money's worth. You got him from Duke. So once again, you're not getting these guys from traditional powerhouses, but sometimes that's all you need. And you're seeing a school like Notre Dame take transfer portal people and you know, they had, you know, what, eight starters who transferred in, I think Sam Hartman a couple of years ago. I mean, that's what's happening now with college football. And I would take a 22 or 23 year old quarterback over an 18 year old quarterback. Yes, I want to have somebody there for four years, but at that position in that sport, I got to have somebody who's been through their battle, tested a couple of phone calls. Let's see Dan in Pennsylvania. Hi, Dan. What's on your mind today? Hey, D.P.
Paul Pabst
I'M calling in because I owe Fritzi.
Dan Patrick
My last pie to the face and our multiple pie to the face bet. So quick recap. Since the 2022 season, I bet that Notre Dame would win a national championship.
Paul Pabst
In football in the next three seasons. And for every year that they don't win, I take a pie to the face. So this is the final year of.
Dan Patrick
The bet and I need to know.
Paul Pabst
What pie to take. Also trying to work on something special for you so you can be a little bit patient with me. When I'm trying to create the video.
Dan Patrick
And submit, I might be able to.
Paul Pabst
Pull something off that's fun for all of us.
Dan Patrick
All right, Todd, what pie should Dan take to the face?
Paul Pabst
I'm going to say a slightly warm blueberry pie.
Dan Patrick
Slightly warm blueberry. Not with a scalding. Not right out of the oven. No.
Paul Pabst
Don't want anybody to be getting third.
Dan Patrick
Degree burns of the rush to the hospital. But slightly warm blueberry cherry would be my second. But, like, second degree burns, you're okay with that?
Paul Pabst
Yes.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Paul Pabst
Something that looks like something happened to your face, but nothing dreadful.
Dan Patrick
All right, Dan. Thank you.
Paul Pabst
Yes, Paul, that does bring back memories of when Todd and I baked a blueberry pie at 350 for 25 minutes, and then Todd was going to take it out with his bare hands.
Dan Patrick
Oh, my goodness.
Paul Pabst
And no joke. About to grab a tin with his bare hands.
Dan Patrick
Paul, he saved me.
Paul Pabst
I was gonna have to be rushed to, like some kind of local.
Dan Patrick
No, you would have.
Paul Pabst
You.
Dan Patrick
You would have burned your hand. You would have. You've never used an oven mitt. And. And you. We. Now we think you're joking. When you open up the oven and you're getting ready, like, oh, look at. Look at Todd. He's crazy. And then all of a sudden, I go, oh, my God, we're stupid.
Paul Pabst
Slash very excited about jumping into that dessert, I guess.
Dan Patrick
I'm Chris in Sacramento. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind today?
Paul Pabst
Thank you for taking my call. Sorry about yesterday. I apologize. But here's my dilemma. I want to bet. I'm a diehard Eagle fan, and I want to bet James of Virginia.
Dan Patrick
I'll give him the points.
Paul Pabst
He can either bet me a pie to the face, a shower of shame, or a wheel of punishment.
Dan Patrick
Wow. Okay. All right, well, maybe Tyler can reach out to James in Virginia. We'll see if. So you'll take. You're going to give him the points? I think it's six points now with the Eagles. All right, Chris, we'll see what we can do with James in Virginia. James in Virginia is. He is sky high, man. Sky high. Got another baby due in August. His commanders, like, when you, like, you're growing with somebody, you're walking with somebody. And, you know, go back to when he would call. When he first started calling, he would just say, hail the commanders, and they weren't any good. And every year, like, every week, he would call, hail to the commanders, and just to see that they're there in the NFC title game. That's awesome. I was talking to a friend of mine and yesterday, and we were talking about the window of opportunity because he knows that I've talked about the Niners. I don't know what that window of opportunity is now. And here we have the Detroit Lions. Now, I look at the lines differently than I do the 49ers. The 49ers spent a lot of money, and you're going to spend a lot of money on your quarterback. The Rams are going to be there if Stafford comes back. You know, I think the Rams would be the favorites in the NFC West. So you're looking at window of opportunity Detroit. Now, Ben Johnson's going to the Bears. I think it's a great hire for Caleb Williams and the Bears. I don't know if he's a head coach, but I do like that they got him and they spent money to get him, and they normally don't do those things. If you're not getting him, you're getting Pete Carroll, maybe. Pete Carroll may now go to the Raiders. Aaron Glenn looks like he would be going to the Jets. I don't know who goes to the Saints? The Jags. I think Mike McCarthy's going to get a job. And I don't know if it's the Saints of the Jags, but so, you know, now all of a sudden, we're starting to see movement here. You still have four teams left. I don't know if anybody from these staffs will get an opportunity to come in an interview. But the window of opportunity with Detroit, you're losing your two coordinators. You still have all of your talent, young talent, wrapped up with contracts here. So that's different than what the 49ers future is. Detroit still has a bright future. Now that may only be one or two more years. San Francisco, I think that window of opportunity closed. Now, all of a sudden, I'm spending 50, 55, $60 million on my quarterback, Christian McCaffrey. What's his future? Debo Samuel. What's his future? Trent Williams. What's his fee? I mean, you start to look and you go, they're going to be losing some parts here. And Fred Warner, how long can he stay at an elite level? I mean, there's a lot of questions here, but that's how quickly it changes. Andrew in Washington. Hi, Andrew. Welcome back. Hey, thanks for taking my call. Good morning, Dan. Dan, it's.
Paul Pabst
I just had a real quick thing on Will Howard, but real quick.
Dan Patrick
You're an Elvis fan. I don't know if you caught the Netflix documentary Kings of Tupelo. Has to do with Elvis impersonators. Has to do with national security. Of course, some crazy southern storyline, so I just wanted to put that out there. But I was just really impressed with how Will Howard turned his season around after that Michigan loss. You know, he had two interceptions. He was 19 and 33 in that Michigan loss. And then during the College Football Playoff.
Paul Pabst
He threw at a 75% clip and.
Dan Patrick
He averaged 287.5 yards and he had eight touchdowns, two interceptions. So although he wasn't a great recruit, it just shows like you were saying how much the transfer portal can help you out. But if you have time, I also.
Paul Pabst
Have a stand of the day if.
Dan Patrick
I could have a little bit of music. The Boston Celtics went to Golden State and achieved a win that hadn't been done in over 40 years. The Celtics beat the Warriors 125 85, handing them their first home loss by 40 or more points since January 15.
Paul Pabst
1985.
Dan Patrick
Of the day. Brought to you by Panini America. I turned on that game and I think they were down 40 and I'm like, oh, it's Martin Luther King Day. They started the game earlier and I'm going, wait, this is at Golden State. Oh my God, Steph Curry had a towel over his head. I was thinking, damn, they better make a deal. They better do something because you're starting to see what the artist formerly known as the Golden State Warriors. We'll take a break, play the day up next, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio Apple.
Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
It was like, do I send the heart now?
Paul Pabst
I don't like the color edition.
Dan Patrick
It's extremely pink.
Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
Of the day.
Paul Pabst
This is the play of the day.
Dan Patrick
Check this out. Power down to the shotgun, back to pass at his own 25. He'll gone that deep down the right side. And it is caught by Jeremiah smith.
Paul Pabst
At the 30 of Notre Dame.
Dan Patrick
He's taken to the Fighting Irish 10 yard line by cornerback Christian Gray.
Paul Pabst
Howard De Smith getting the Buckeyes in.
Dan Patrick
The Giant Eagle red zone. That's courtesy of Learfield Sports. The 56 yard catch was Smith's only target of the second half. He ended with five catches for 88 yards and a touchdown. That's your play of the day. Most cars on the road could use a little TLC at Mako. They're bringing your car back to life with affordable paint jobs and light collision repairs. Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako Seaton. Update the poll results if you can.
Paul Pabst
Yep, I'd be happy to. We got Marvin's up there for the first hour. If you're an Ohio State fan, you'd rather lose to Michigan but win a national title or beat Michigan and lose in the college football playoffs. Right now I'm happy to report 78%.
Dan Patrick
Of the people who voted in that.
Paul Pabst
Would rather lose to Michigan but win the national title.
Dan Patrick
I'm proud of you what's with the 22%? What are we doing?
Paul Pabst
We have no way to verify if the 22% are actually Ohio State fans.
Dan Patrick
John in LA. Hi, John. What's on your mind today? Hey, how you guys doing? Good. Good.
Paul Pabst
I just wanted to say, and I'm a USC guy, I'm not either Ohio.
Dan Patrick
State or Michigan, but I do feel.
Paul Pabst
That if Ohio State had beat Michigan.
Dan Patrick
They don't win a national title.
Paul Pabst
They improved by far as a team not playing for themselves, but as a team by losing commission.
Dan Patrick
If you look at, if you watch.
Paul Pabst
The games after, they were a whole different team.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I had a former Ohio State player who said the same thing. It changed after Michigan tried to plant the flag. And it's almost as if they were. You take talent for granted sometimes. Like, yeah, we're going to win. We're supposed to win. We're the most talented team in the country. And then all of a sudden you get humbled, then you react two different ways. And we saw that just like when Notre Dame loses at home to Northern Illinois and you're thinking, oh, my goodness. Well, we saw what happened after that. They went on a run. John in Pennsylvania. Hi, John. What's on your mind today? Morning, Dan. I got a good college trivia question.
Paul Pabst
For you and the boys.
Dan Patrick
All right, there's only ever been two coaches in the history of college football to have competed in and won all five of the major bowl games, that being the Orange Rose Sugar Fiesta and Cotton Joe Paterno. Very good. Bob Stoops. Oh, excellent, Excellent.
Paul Pabst
Dan, you got them both.
Dan Patrick
Both correct. All right, your last show, John Fogarty doing center field, because that's what you are in your. In your wheelhouse. All right, I'd love to have John Fogarty on again, Zach in Grand Rapids. Hi, Zach. What's on your mind today?
Paul Pabst
Hey, how's it going, Dan? Everyday listener just wanted to talk about the Michigan Ohio State poll question.
Dan Patrick
First of all, I want to start.
Paul Pabst
Off by saying that I got swirling emotions right now because I'm a Detroit Lions fan and feeling a lot of resentment right now. So it was tough last night to watch that Ohio State Notre Dame game because it was like, which knee do you cut off? You know? But the only thing that kept me going through it was hoping that I'd get to see Lou Holtz laughing his recliner chair at Ryan Day when he lost. But to go back to Janie's comments, I don't understand how she doesn't understand the narrative of Ohio State fans. I mean, this Goes. This goes back deep. I feel like Ohio State fans are hated not just by Michigan fans. And there's a deep resentment for Ryan Day because the COVID year, he said he was going to put up 100 against us, you know, and hasn't won since. I love the Harbaugh comment that he was born on third base. But as a Michigan fan, you know, they get the top recruits every year. They, you know, dump nil money into their program, which is the trending thing to do, but they still come up short against Michigan, at least for the last four years. And I, me, as a Michigan thing fan, thinks it's going to be longer, but we're still their daddy.
Dan Patrick
All right, well, thank you, Zach. Take a victory lap if you're a Michigan fan. Sure. I mean, not a big victory lap if you're a Lions fan, but, you know, you beat Ohio State. Go ahead, take a victory lap. Doug in North Carolina. Hi, Doug. What's on your mind?
Paul Pabst
Well, I'm one of the 22%, Dan, and I take. I take as my guide, exhibit A, the famous words of one Woody Hayes, who is rolling over in his grave at how elated the folks from Ohio are today. He famously said, you. You can't claim a national championship unless you win the game. The only thing that matters is how many times beat Michigan.
Dan Patrick
That's what he hates.
Paul Pabst
It's the game. And yes, there's an asterisk, and, yes, you had a wonderful season, and yes, you did. Listen, you can go to prom and your day can look beautiful, but if it's not Jenny Batch, it doesn't matter. That's my opinion. If there's an asterisk next to the.
Dan Patrick
National championship, and it's Janice. Jenny Batche. Jenny Batchy. Get that correct there, Doug. Thank you for your phone call. Part of the 22% that would rather beat Michigan than win a national championship. It's crazy. Crazy.
Paul Pabst
Yeah, Paul, there's no asterisk, but I could see how an Ohio State fan will be bummed that Michigan can talk during the off season. Weirdly, it's like. It's like a rock in your shoe when everything's going well.
Dan Patrick
I would be okay with it.
Paul Pabst
Yes. Okay with it. But I wish it didn't have to be. If I were an Ohio State fan.
Dan Patrick
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Paul Pabst
Not. Not a big deal.
Dan Patrick
I can't be that insecure that I'm going to go, well, yeah, you're right. You guys did beat us. I'd be like, oh, you know, I want to watch that national title game again. What do you guys. Were you in a. Oh yeah, that's right. You played Alabama in a bowl game, right? Christopher Mad Dog Russo joining us. Hour 2 Dan Patrick Show Catch Jon Stewart back in action on the Daily.
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Summary of "The Dan Patrick Show" Episode: Hour 1 – Ohio State Are Your 2025 CFP National Champions
Release Date: January 21, 2025
In this episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick delves into the thrilling conclusion of the 2025 College Football Playoff (CFP) season, where Ohio State emerges as the national champions despite a surprising loss to Michigan. Joined by co-host Paul Pabst and special guests, the show navigates the shifting landscape of college football, the impact of Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) regulations, and the enduring rivalry between Ohio State and Michigan.
Dan Patrick opens the discussion by reflecting on Ohio State's remarkable season. Even after a challenging loss to Michigan, the Buckeyes secured back-to-back national titles for the Big Ten Conference, signaling a potential shift in the power dynamics traditionally dominated by the Southeastern Conference (SEC).
Dan Patrick [02:42]: "Welcome to the program. It's hour one on this Tuesday. The college football season has a period at the end of the sentence, it's over. Back to back national titles for the Big Ten."
The centerpiece of the episode is a detailed breakdown of Ohio State's decisive victory over Notre Dame. Initially holding a commanding lead of 31-7, the Buckeyes faced a late surge from Notre Dame, prompting crucial strategic decisions from coach Ryan Day. The discussion highlights the tension during key moments, such as the aggressive call on third and nine by Ohio State's offense.
Paul Pabst [06:27]: "We felt like we had an advantage."
Dan Patrick [09:33]: "But why can't you have both? Why can't this still mean so much? But the national title is more important than that."
A significant portion of the conversation centers around the increasing importance of NIL deals in college athletics. The discussion specifically highlights wide receiver Jeremiah Smith's valuation, positioning him as a top non-quarterback asset with an estimated NIL worth of $4-5 million.
Dan Patrick [16:12]: "What's he worth? $10 million. Is that fair? I mean, quarterbacks get six, $7 million. There's nobody like him in the country."
The analysis underscores how NIL opportunities are reshaping recruitment and retention strategies, allowing programs like Ohio State to attract and retain top talent beyond traditional recruiting.
Dan and Paul scrutinize Coach Ryan Day's decisions during critical phases of the game, questioning the aggressiveness and strategy that ultimately led Ohio State to secure the championship despite the Michigan loss. The conversation probes whether these strategic choices might influence Day's standing and future with the program.
Dan Patrick [12:44]: "Are we reheating Ryan Day?"
Paul Pabst [09:33]: "I want to follow up on that."
A heated debate ensues over the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry, focusing on whether Ohio State fans prioritize beating Michigan over securing a national championship. Dan argues that while beating Michigan is historically significant, winning the national title should take precedence in the current playoff system.
Dan Patrick [07:38]: "It's so important to beat Michigan. That has been your identity. And yeah, we won a national title, but you need to beat Michigan."
Paul Pabst [09:35]: "Not the team up north."
A live poll posed to Ohio State fans asks whether they would prefer to lose to Michigan but win the national title or beat Michigan and lose in the playoffs. The results reveal a strong preference (78%) for prioritizing the national championship over the rivalry victory.
Dan Patrick [07:38]: "What would it be a reasonable number to leave one school for."
Paul Pabst [47:36]: "We got Marvin's up there for the first hour."
The discussion explores the sentiments of the minority (22%) who value the rivalry above the championship, highlighting the deep-rooted passion and differing priorities within the fan base.
The episode speculates on the future landscape of college football, emphasizing the Big Ten's rising prominence as Ohio State continues to secure national titles. The conversation suggests that the expanded playoff system allows teams with multiple losses to vie for championships, thereby reducing the SEC's dominance.
Dan Patrick [29:08]: "But I think people. Make it what it has to be."
Paul Pabst [33:43]: "A team like Ohio State can win a national title with a good 23-year-old quarterback."
As the episode wraps up, Dan Patrick reflects on the evolution of college football, acknowledging the enhanced competitiveness brought about by NIL and the transfer portal. The discussion underscores that the current era allows for a more diverse set of champions, promoting parity across conferences and elevating programs like Ohio State to new heights.
Dan Patrick [31:32]: "It's one of those where you see the end result and you go, how did they lose? How were they shut down at home against Michigan?"
Dan Patrick [07:38]: "It's so important to beat Michigan. That has been your identity. And yeah, we won a national title, but you need to beat Michigan."
Paul Pabst [09:35]: "Not the team up north."
Dan Patrick [26:09]: "I don't get it."
Paul Pabst [47:36]: "We got Marvin's up there for the first hour."
Doug [52:16]: "You can't claim a national championship unless you win the game. The only thing that matters is how many times you beat Michigan."
This episode of The Dan Patrick Show offers a comprehensive analysis of Ohio State's triumphant season, the shifting paradigms in college football governance, and the enduring intensity of one of the sport's most storied rivalries. Through insightful commentary and engaging discussions, Dan Patrick and Paul Pabst provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of the factors contributing to Ohio State's national championship and the broader implications for the future of college football.