Hour 1 – Parity Is King in the NFL, Ross Tucker

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The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1 Summary

Episode: Parity Is King in the NFL, Ross Tucker
Date: December 22, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Main Guest: Ross Tucker (CBS Sports, Westwood One)

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Overview

In this episode, Dan Patrick and the Danettes dive into the chaotic nature of the 2025 NFL season, focusing on the league's parity and unpredictability. The crew recaps wild games from the weekend, discusses the playoff picture, and welcomes analyst Ross Tucker, who offers in-depth football insights. The hour is marked by humorous banter, especially regarding listener bets and office hijinks, but centers squarely on debating which NFL teams are genuinely for real as the postseason nears.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Parity and the Numbers Behind It

• Survive and Advance Mentality:
  Dan opens by emphasizing that "opinions don’t matter" in the NFL—the standings do. Teams like Jacksonville and Seattle may not “look” great, but they keep winning, and ultimately, that's all that matters.

  • Quote (Dan): “You don't get stylized points here. It's just math. You just win and move on.” (04:30)

• Year-to-Year Turnover:
  Dan shares striking stats about postseason turnover and how it fuels hope for NFL fanbases every season:

  • At least four new teams qualify for the playoffs each year (36 years running).
  • Quote (Dan): “Next year there's going to be four teams that didn't make the playoffs that will make the play. At least four...” (05:50)
  • This season, teams like the Bears, Niners, Seahawks, and Patriots clinched spots after missing out the previous year.

2. Team Legitimacy Debates and the Jaguars Case Study

• Jacksonville Jaguars' Sudden Rise:
  Dan walks through Jacksonville’s impressive win over Denver—driven by Trevor Lawrence finally living up to his potential with better coaching. Still, he admits skepticism about whether they’re truly elite:

  • Quote (Dan): “Jacksonville had an unbelievable win and it wasn’t a fluke... but I’m still not convinced that they’re that good. But it doesn’t matter.”
  • Stat: Jaguars beat a Denver team on a home winning streak (12:06–12:54)

• Listener Bet & Limerick:
  Marcus from Jacksonville calls in, cashing in on a prior bet (“pie to the face” for Todd) after predicting the Jaguars would win by two touchdowns in Denver. He delivers a witty limerick saluting Trevor Lawrence:

  “They said that the Jaguars they'd mince
  but Trevor did not even flinch.
  With spirals on fire he climbed even higher.
  Now welcome the long waited prince.” (13:41)

3. Skepticism About Playoff Teams and MVPs

• Who Do You Believe In Less:
  The crew and listeners tackle poll questions about which current playoff teams (NFL and CFB) inspire the least faith, with a playful, negative edge to the day’s question.

  • Teams like the Texans, Jaguars, Broncos, Patriots discussed in order of perceived legitimacy.

• Dan's “Show Me” Philosophy:
  Both Dan and Ross Tucker echo that regular-season success means nothing without postseason results: “Show me in the playoffs.”

  • Quote (Dan): “You just have to win, that’s the validation.” (06:50)

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4. Ross Tucker Interview (24:00–39:00)

NFL Parity & Deep Dive on Jacksonville

• Ross’s Jacksonville Praise:
  Ross says the Jaguars are being underestimated and are more dangerous than people realize:

  • Quote (Ross Tucker, 25:56): “They are really good… In a five game stretch, Trevor Lawrence didn't have to play in the end of the fourth quarter in four of those five. That’s NFL teams!”
  • Credits weapons like Parker Washington, underrated tight ends, and a coaching staff with a “chip on its shoulder.”

• Underdog Mentality:
  Ross notes the motivation derived from feeling overlooked, attributing it partly to OC Liam Cohen’s small-market roots and attitude.

Quarterback Landscape

• Elite QBs Missing Playoffs:
  Ross highlights an unprecedented scenario:

  • “Mahomes is not making the playoffs. We know that Burrow’s not making the playoffs. Highly unlikely Lamar Jackson is… Three of the four clear elite quarterbacks are not in the playoffs.” (29:13)

• Josh Allen’s Pressure:
  With other stars out, Allen faces the spotlight:

  • Quote (Ross Tucker, 30:06): “The time is yours, bro.”

Controversial Officiating: Lions-Steelers

• Botched Presentation:
  Dan and Ross decry the Lions-Steelers ending, where a go-ahead Lions touchdown was reversed due to penalty—with the official first announcing “touchdown,” then calling it back.
  • Quote (Dan, 32:12): “How could you possibly say it’s a touchdown in Detroit and then say but there was pass interference, no touchdown?”
  • Ross jokes the ref should’ve sold it more like the Grinch (32:30).

Other NFL Notes

• DK Metcalf’s Confrontation with a Fan:
  Ross expects a suspension, making clear players cannot physically respond to fans—no matter what’s said from the stands.

• Analyzing the 49ers:
  Dan and Ross marvel at how Kyle Shanahan has coached through adversity (lost stars, declining production) to keep the 49ers winning. The underperformance in total sacks is offset by high-level execution and toughness from veterans like Christian McCaffrey.

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5. Best & Worst of the Weekend (Listener Calls, 46:18+)

• Best: Steelers’ win and playoff clinch, Niners' resilience, Jaguars’ statement win, Sean Payton’s sideline reactions
• Worst: DK Metcalf’s swipe at a Detroit fan, the confusing ending to Lions-Steelers, Chiefs’ quarterback woes

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Ross Tucker on Jacksonville (25:56):
  “They are really good… This is the best we’ve ever seen Trevor Lawrence play.”

• Dan Patrick on postseason validation (06:50):
  “If you win, that’s the validation. And I think that’s the amazing part of all of this.”

• Ross Tucker on NFL parity (29:13):
  “Mahomes is not making the playoffs… three of the four clearly coming into the year, the best of the best quarterbacks, three of the four are not going to the playoffs.”

• Dan Patrick on officiating blunder (32:12):
  “How could you possibly say it’s a touchdown in Detroit and then say but there was pass interference, no touchdown.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Parity & Postseason Turnover: 04:30–06:30
• Jacksonville Postgame Bet/Limerick: 12:06–13:59
• Ross Tucker Interview Starts: 24:00
• Jags Analysis + QBs not in Playoffs: 25:56–30:06
• Lions-Steelers Refereeing Debate: 31:07–33:30
• DK Metcalf Fan Incident: 34:58–36:10
• 49ers Coaching & McCaffrey Praise: 36:15–38:49
• Listener Best/Worst Calls: 46:18–49:15

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Tone

Upbeat, irreverent, and conversational, with frequent moments of humor (pie bets, family anecdotes) alongside passionate, sometimes skeptical football analysis. Dan and Ross are insightful but not afraid to challenge hype or call out confusion, whether among fans or officials. The camaraderie among the Danettes shines through, especially in the playful way listener bets and controversies are handled.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This hour is a quintessential Dan Patrick Show blend: sharp NFL insight with a heavy dose of skepticism, real respect for statistical trends, and acknowledgment of the unpredictable, churn-heavy nature of the NFL. With fresh examples from the weekend and expert commentary from Ross Tucker, it’s an ideal catch-up on how and why NFL “parity is king”—and why being skeptical of hot streaks and wild-card darlings is perfectly justified… at least until the playoffs say otherwise.

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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody gang's here. Ready to go. I need a timeout. Tired a lot of football. Got a game coming up tonight. It'll be the 49ers are 5 1/2 point favorites against the Colts. We'll recap everything that happened over the weekend and get you ready for the games coming up this week. It's a Monday. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. 8773 DP show email address [e-mail] Twitter handle @DP show we say good morning if you're watching on Peacock. That's our streaming partner. If you'd like to watch the program and our radio affiliates around the country. Stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of this award nominated program. First hour brought to you by Mako. They bring your car back to life. Affordable paint jobs, light collision repairs. Get a free estimate today. And remember, oh, better get Mako. Our buddy Ross Tucker will join us in about 20 minutes. CBS Sports. Nate Burleson will stop by as will Rick Neuheisel. Rick's got a college football song for us as promised. So Monday night game niners at the Colts. Your phone calls operator Tyler sitting by 8773 DP show and there is still time for you to vote on the most valuable and least valuable. Danette. Go to danpatrick.com tabulating the votes and we will close the ballot box tomorrow at 11am Eastern to make the big announcement. Who is the most valuable. There we go. And least valuable Dan it. What happened to my drum roll there? No, I'm sorry. There you go. That's not exactly a drum roll. All right, we have a poll question, play of the day, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming and we'll recap the college football. Look ahead to the matchups with Rick Newheisel coming up a little bit later on. You know, it's just math when you get to the NFL, your opinion, my opinion, our opinions, they don't matter. I mean, it's fun in September and October. Oh, that team's not good. Oh, that team is going to be great. That team's a Super bowl contender. He's an mvp. It doesn't matter. I mean, it all plays out. So your opinion of the Steelers, it doesn't matter. They won the game. Controversial. Okay. Should Detroit have won that game? But they didn't. So it doesn't matter. You don't get points. There's no stylized points. How many did you win by? You won the game. That's all it's about. It's survive and move on. So when we talk about, man, that team's really good or that team's not really good, they're going to have to show me in the playoffs. Like Jacksonville. Jacksonville had an unbelievable win and it wasn't a fluke. They were the better team And I'm still not convinced that they're that good. But it doesn't matter. They will show us how good they are. The packers did everything they could possibly do to lose that game against the Bears. I don't know how good the Bears are, but it doesn't matter. They won the game. And back to Jacksonville. They went on the road and beat a great Denver defense. Okay, now if I said, who do you believe in more? The Texans, who I believe have won seven in a row in the same division with Jacksonville or Jacksonville. You're probably going to take the Texans. We've seen them more recently, be better later in the season and get to the playoffs. What Trevor Lawrence has done, he's supposed to be great. He's not Tyler Shuck, he's Trevor Lawrence. He's the number one pick in the draft, but he finally got coached up. That's really the difference here. Just like Liam Cohen did with Baker Mayfield in Tampa, he's coaching up Trevor Lawrence. Now. You're seeing what he's supposed to be. He didn't have good coaching before this. He does now, and you can see the big difference. But what are you going to say? Let me see what you do in the playoffs. Like Seattle. I don't know how good Seattle is, but they've won five in a row. They've played great. So once again, you don't get stylized points here. It's just math. You just win and move on. And I think that's the amazing part of all of this. What? You know, we had Baker Mayfield of the Buccaneers, super bowl contender and mvp. That's gone. Do you believe in the Carolina Panthers? It doesn't matter if I do or not. If, if you win, that's the validation. And I think that's the amazing part of all of this. And remember this, going into next season, you have the Bears, Niners, Seahawks and Patriots all clinched playoff spots. They missed the postseason last year. So we're on a streak of 36 consecutive seasons. At least four teams each season have qualified for the playoffs after failing to make the postseason the year before. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. Every year there's going to be. So next year there's going to be four teams that didn't make the playoffs that will make the play. At least four, Chicago and New England both finished last in their respective divisions, clinched playoff spots. So 27 of the last 30 years, at least one team has made the playoffs the season after finishing last or tied for last in their division. The NFL Loves this. The NFL is giving you hope every year you can actually go into a season and have hope. There's only a couple of teams where you go. No, I don't think so. Now baseball, I mean, over half the field. Basketball, over half the field, no chance. But in football, you have a chance to make the playoffs. You can go from worst to first. And you see that for 36 consecutive years, four teams, at least four teams not in the playoffs, in the playoffs the following season. Seaton, what's poll question today? We're going to go with one here from Paulie. Skewing negative. Oh, wow. Odd on a Monday, right out of the gate. We don't usually do that. What's the playoff current playoff team you have the least faith in. Okay, do we, we have nominees? We do. And it's actually split between college football and the NFL. Alabama, Miami Hurricanes. Why don't we do, why don't we do NFL one one hour and college football the other hour. Go double up on the negativity, I guess. Heck yeah. But a double negative is a positive. It is the season. As somebody said to me over the weekend, you know, when you take the lesser of two evils, it's still evil. I'm like, did you throw them out of your house? No, I didn't. No, I didn't. You know, hey, I think the Christmas party went off really without any issues, any, no snafus. I will say best dressed family. Not even close. Not even close. Shay and Irving and his wife and three daughters. They look like they were right out of a catalog. It was picture day for the Shay, Shay and his, his daughter and all three daughters. One of the daughters broke open the pinata, so she gets her name on a plaque. Oh, it was good times. Great oldies. Got everybody out of there by around 8 o'. Clock. Oh, party ended at 6. You had stragglers and we had one person who stayed until midnight. He wouldn't go. And he's, he's a friend of the family. But they started watching Father of the Bride. Oh, God. I know. So my wife, my dog. No, I want, I won't watch it. I, I will not watch it. I, I, I just said because my daughter goes, you should watch it before I get married. I go, hun, I'm going to be father of the bride. I don't need to watch the movie, okay? She goes, I don't know you and Steve Martin. I go, no, hun. So they all watched and you know, they're all crying. And so I said, I'm going to bed. But we pulled it off. We had the Christmas holiday party and everything I think went, oh, you know what I forgot. Todd, didn't you have a bet with Marcus in Jacksonville? Who joins us now? Hi, Marcus.

[Marcus]

Good morning, Dan. How's your morning going?

[Dan Patrick]

Great. You know, for those who didn't hear your bet with Todd, could you maybe recap that for us?

[Marcus]

Well, I'm happy you asked, Dan, because I've got three things for you this morning. I've got some receipts, I've got a limerick, and unlike the Denver Broncos, I've got a franchise quarterback.

[Dan Patrick]

What is that about? Okay, Marcus, do we have Marcus's prediction? Okay, let's play that from last week. He came in firing from both barrels. Here we go. Marcus in Jacksonville. Hi, Marcus.

[Marcus]

Good morning, Dan. I've got a pie to the face fit for Fritzi here. The Jacksonville Jaguars, my Jacksonville Jaguars are going into Denver to beat the Broncos ass on Sunday.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Marcus]

I'm gonna spot him. I'm gonna spot him 13 points because we're winning by at least two touchdowns and we're gonna win the Super Bowl. I'll take it off here. Unbelievable.

[Todd]

He's got the Jaguars winning by two touchdowns in Denver.

[Dan Patrick]

He's giving you 13 points.

[Todd]

I would have probably taken that as a straight up win for Denver. So I will totally go in with that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I can't blame you about a round of applause for Marcus. Marcus and Jacksonville. They won by 14.

[Todd]

Is that Marcus and Jacksonville? Marcus from the Caesars sportsbook.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, here we go. Todd. I walk in, Marcus, first thing he says is something, something he knew something I said he knew your team wasn't as good as Jacksonville.

[Todd]

Apparently to confidently say the Jaguars are going to win in Denver. A team that's won 15 straight home games and on our 11 game winning streak and that they specifically by 14 and the final score was 3420 is ridiculous.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. And you're going to get a pie to the face today.

[Ross Tucker]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Todd]

Ridiculous.

[Dan Patrick]

Marcus, anything else you'd like to add?

[Marcus]

Yeah, here's my. Here's my limerick about the game yesterday. They said that the Jaguars they'd mince but Trevor did not even flinch. With spirals on fire he climbed even higher. Now welcome the long waited prince.

[Dan Patrick]

The prince takes down the Broncos. Well, Marcus, thank you. And yeah, Paul, I. After this pie is served to Todd, what about a futures bet of who goes further? Your thoughts? Yeah. Well, I gotta ask Todd because he thinks Marcus knows something. Todd, would you be willing to take a another bet with Marcus, who goes further in the playoffs?

[Todd]

Do we do. Is this a double or nothing or.

[Dan Patrick]

I think it's still out of his pie. He called the shot, so this has to be post pie bet.

[Todd]

Well, I. We can also go with the fact that he said the Jaguars are going to win the Super Bowl. Does he want to do that as a bet that the Jaguars versus the field to win the Super Bowl?

[Dan Patrick]

I think it'd be fun. How about we just do it where Broncos Jags, who goes further and then if you want to bet him again, if Jacksonville goes further, if they win the Super.

[Todd]

I'm a sucker for content. You know, these days that it seems like I'm kind of in a corner on that. So, yeah, I think the Denver should go further than the Jaguars and the player.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, so, Marcus, you have a bet who goes further in the playoffs between Jacksonville and Denver or when the.

[Marcus]

Jaguars win the Super Bowl. Todd could just write me a nice limerick back.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. If. If Jacksonville wins the super bowl, then you'll.

[Todd]

Very least I can do the Jaguars with the Super Bowl. The very least.

[Ross Tucker]

All right.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, thank you, Marcus. That. That was quite a call. He said they would win by at least two touchdowns. And he gave you 13 points at home.

[Todd]

He nailed it exactly 34.

[Dan Patrick]

20.

[Todd]

It's ridiculous.

[Dan Patrick]

He believes. He believes in Jacksonville, but, you know, Jacksonville's playing this victim game like, nobody believed in us. No, no, we would have no reason to believe in you. You know, it's. It's not like, oh, you did this one year and then you took a year off. It's. You haven't really done anything. Now, granted, it's been a mess. Coaching carousel, the Urban Meyer debacle. But Trevor Lawrence is supposed to be great. Okay, then be great. But everybody is going to what feels like we still want to see what happens. Has Jacksonville clinched a playoff spot? I don't think they have. Technically. No. Okay. Yeah, Paulie. But when the Jacksonville Jaguars players say nobody believed in us, it's factually correct. Yes, because it's. It's still going on. If a Bills player said, you know, what America was against us, nobody believed in us. It's just not true. Like, I don't believe in the Ravens. And there's reason to not believe in the Ravens, by the way. A bad loss. All I could see, Derek Henry just stand on those sidelines. I kept going, wait, is he a decoy? Like, is the defense going to go, where is Derek? And all of a sudden you're going to run a play and go, he's right over there on the sidelines. Here's what we're gonna do, okay? They prepared for him all week. We're gonna take him out of the game, huh, man, like, what? Yeah, he'd already run for 128. John Harbaugh may be going to the hall of Fame, but there are times, you know, when you have coaches and they do think, unless he was hurt, unless something else was, you know, in play. I was kind of surprised at that. I hope Joe Burrow is now having fun. It certainly looked like he did against the Dolphins there. So there's a few games to recap. We'll get to your phone calls coming up. 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Todd will get a pie to the face at the end of the show. And yes, I was supposed to get a pie to the face on Friday, and it's not my fault. Todd made the mistake. You were confused. You did not. You did not. Your clock management was horrible, terrible.

[Ross Tucker]

You.

[Todd]

You did not weasel out of anything. You glasses off you.

[Dan Patrick]

I did.

[Todd]

You had all the body language, as if someone was going to get hit with a pie. And I lost track of time. And I'm talking and they're begging me to hit you with the pie. And I think they're tricking me into hitting you prematurely. And I just totally didn't do it on time.

[Dan Patrick]

And there's nothing else to say. Social media is all over me. I'm like, I didn't do anything. We had our cameraman saying, all right, 30 seconds. Yelling out, 30 seconds, 10 seconds. Hit him, Todd. Hit him. And I closed my eyes. I'm like, took off my glasses. Go ahead, blast me. And you whiffed. You froze in the moment.

[Todd]

Coward. You weaseled out of it. You were supposed to get with a pie, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Seaton. That's how backwards we've actually got Todd twisted up.

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[Dan Patrick]

Just what in how much of a.

[Public Ad Voice]

Knot and a pretzel we have his.

[Dan Patrick]

Brain that even when we're, like, trying to help him, he's like, no, they're messing with me. Then something wants to be helpless. They're obviously doing something to me. I don't know who is going to hit you in the face with a pie today, but I guarantee you their clock management will be really good.

[Todd]

Will happen, actually on camera.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. So if you want to pick whoever is going to hit you in the face, we'll make sure that they. They hit you even a brg.

[Todd]

Anybody?

[Dan Patrick]

It could be anybody. Anybody you want, Todd. We should try in 2026. We should find a way to have the dogs hit us with pies. That would actually be Emmy worthy. Yeah. All right, let's take a break. Ross Tucker will join us to recap the weekend. Your phone calls. We'll get to those best and worst of the weekend. We're back after this on the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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[Dan Patrick]

People will be talking, lauding the Jags. Oh, my God, they're great.

[Ross Tucker]

If you.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait until the postseason. I'm sorry. I'm gonna wait. Yes. You sensing a huge movement to jump on that bandwagon? I don't think so. I'm not quite picking up on those same vibes. I gotta admit, if I said, who do you believe in more? Broncos, Jags, Texans? You can even throw the Patriots in there. I'm gonna. I have a pretty good idea where the Jags are in that list. I think. I think so, too. We don't hand out awards for our favorite guests, but this guy would be high on the list, in my opinion. He's Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, Westwood One. And he did Jets, Saints yesterday. He'll be on the call for the Niners Colts tonight on Westwood One. Round of applause for a great year for Ross. Yeah. Thank you.

[Ross Tucker]

Thank you guys for having me so much. I really appreciate it. I was wondering if you had an award for best guests and I was curious where I might fit in.

[Dan Patrick]

Should we start one where we put maybe our top five or six people who join us all the time and maybe we'll do that. But you're going to be up against Reggie Miller. I mean, there's going to be a few people in there. Steve Young, I mean, there's. I don't know. Do you want that?

[Ross Tucker]

Well, you know how I feel about it. Then if I'm going to come in first, I think it's a great idea. If I'm not going to come in first, I just don't think it's really necessary. Let me be first in my own big head.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay?

[Ross Tucker]

Let me be first in my own big head. I'll just assume based on the feedback I get from your great listeners that I'm. That I'm number one. You don't need to have an official vote and ruin my. Ruin my expectations.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, If I said, who do you believe in the most? And I put those teams up there so the Texans, Jags, Broncos, Patriots. Who's first right now?

[Ross Tucker]

I would say the Jacksonville Jaguars. And I know you guys said last and I know you're not believing them. They are really good. I mean, I watch them a lot because last week I did Jets, Jags. Okay, think about this for a second in a five game stretch. Trevor Lawrence didn't have to play in the end of the fourth quarter and four of those five These are NFL games. This is NFL teams. This is not a power four versus a group of five or whatever anybody wants to talk about. These are NFL teams where four games out of five, the Jags were able to put Nick Mullins in the game. Then you go out to Denver and you dominate the Broncos like the Jaguars did. Their offensive lines playing very well. This is the best we've ever seen Trevor Lawrence play. Their weapons are a lot better than people realize. Parker Washington can play. Breton Strange, the tight end can play. They're like, Jacoby Myers is kind of like that guy that's always been just okay. But people don't like. The Jaguars are sort of that team, Dan, that has a bunch of underrated, underappreciated, under the radar guys that are a lot better than people realize because they don't play a lot of marquee games. Even yesterday, okay, they're playing the team with the number one seed. They're playing the, you know, the big bad Denver Broncos. That was a 405 game. That wasn't the featured Tom Brady, you know, Kevin Burkhart game. That went to the Steelers Lions that have the Jaguars played. I think the Jaguars played the Chiefs like in week four on Monday night. That might have been their only prime time game the whole year. Defensively, they got a bunch of guys and as you can tell, and I noticed this last week when I was there, they have an immense chip on their shoulder. Liam Cohen, he's from Rhode island, okay. He's got that, that New Englander in him. He takes offense to every. He doesn't discriminate. He just takes offense to everything. He even drops the line about. Yeah, I mean, for a small market team like us, it wasn't even a knock by Sean Payton. You know, Sean Payton was just being honest and realistic. So they'll take any little edge they can. And I know people sit here and think, does that really make a difference? Yeah, it does. It just stokes your fire a little bit more every day. It's not really about the game. It's about every day during the week giving you the edge to prep just a little bit harder.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And I'm not rooting against the Jags. I want their fan base to know it doesn't. I'm just saying I gotta wait to see it happen. Same thing with the Ravens. You know, I. Lamar Jackson, let me see what you do in the postseason. I, I mean, the Steelers, I don't know how good they are. I know when you get to the postseason, you get in and you Lose. So I would like to see a little more from you. I want to see Drake May in the Patriots in the playoffs in a big moment there that, I mean, I think that's just natural reasoning with a lot of these teams. Show me. We said this before. I want to see what happens with Justin Herbert in a big moment. Yeah, you can throw for 4,000 yards. All of those things are great. We're a bottom line sports society.

[Ross Tucker]

Well, I got news for you. Sorry. I got news for you though. Dan Mahomes is not making the playoffs. We know that Burrow's not making the playoffs. We know that it looks highly unlikely Lamar Jackson is going to make the playoffs. So think about that. Before the year, if we did any quarterback rankings, any quarterback discussions. There was a clear top four. There was a clear elite group. And, and we talk about how it's by far the most important position in the sport and all that. Three of the four guys that are clearly coming into the year, the best of the best quarterbacks, three of the four are not going to the playoffs. I don't think that the Ravens are going, which by the way means Josh Allen. The time is yours, bro. I mean, it is your time.

[Dan Patrick]

Can there be more pressure on Josh Allen to finally get to a Super Bowl?

[Ross Tucker]

Yes, there's even more because those other guys aren't in it. There's even more. But the point I was going to make is a lot of those teams you just mentioned, right? Jacksonville or Herbert or you know, the Steelers. Somebody has to win these games, Dan. I mean, a lot of these teams are going to be playing against each other. I mean, these are the teams in the playoffs. So you just name three of the seven teams that are going to be in the playoffs in the afc. I mean, I guess all three of them could lose their first round. But some, somebody has to win these games. We have to start to believe in somebody because Mahomes, he's not coming.

[Dan Patrick]

I didn't understand. Now I understand the, the call in the Lion Steelers game that, you know, it was pass interference, offensive pass interference. If you want to call that, you call that. But the fact that the play looked like it was still alive, if there's no pass interference. Now I'm going to play the call here and then I'm going to come to you because I have a couple of problems here. Marvin, play that. The last play there in the Lions game. 4th and goal for the Lions from the nine ball game on the line right here.

[Ross Tucker]

They need the end zone for the win.

[Dan Patrick]

Jared leans in there's the snap on fourth down.

[Ross Tucker]

Jared back. Jared step it up. Jared looking, throwing end zone.

[Dan Patrick]

It is caught by Amon Ra shy of the end zone. He flips it back to Goff. Dogs into the end zone for the touchdown.

[Ross Tucker]

There's a flag that came in two flags. Did they rule him down? Are they gonna say pass interference against Amon Ra? There's no time left on the clock. Here comes Carl Cheffers. The officials have finally broken. We're gonna get the call right here. Is this game over or not?

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[Dan Patrick]

Really on the field is a touchdown. However, on the offense, by rule that penalty is. Is not enforced and there is no replay. The game is. Wow. There is no touchdown. Wow. Okay. Talk about a bait and switch. That is embarrassing for the official. It's a touchdown, but there's pass interference. There is no touchdown. Game over, good night and drive home safely. How could you possibly say it's a touchdown in Detroit and then say but there was pass interference, no touchdown.

[Ross Tucker]

I. I think Dan, he should have sold it harder and really pulled off a Grinch move there. Shepherd should have been like the ruling on the field is touchdown Detroit Lions. Except unfortunately there's a penalty. The game's over. You guys lost. See ya.

[Dan Patrick]

But I wonder if the whistle. Because they clearly had stopped Amon Ross St. Brown his forward progress.

[Ross Tucker]

Right.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if a whistle. Let's say there's no past interference. Would they. I guess they would have allowed that touchdown because he said that it's a touchdown. Except for there was past interference.

[Ross Tucker]

Absolutely. They would have allowed it. Which would have been incredible. I mean Amon Ra, first of all, that was about as blatant a Pastor Fear. I don't know what he was doing. He went right up to the guy and just two hand shoved him. Probably didn't need to do it, but he did. But can you imagine if Jared Goff on a pitch back scored the touchdown diving into the end zone to for the Lions to be able to go to the playoffs and that that's how that game had ended. But you have to call it a touchdown. Dan. If you're going to call the two point conversion in the Seattle Rams game where Charbonnet just walks over and picks up the ball that's in the end zone. I gotta be honest, I had much more of a problem with that. That. That to me should not have been two points for the Seahawks. The. The whistle blew in that one. In that one the whistle blew. In my opinion as a player once the whistle blows. Nothing after that should count because what would have happened if the whistle blew and Charbonnet is just walking over to pick the ball up? Am I allowed to just come in and just crack him? No, I would have been penalized. So if I'm, if Charbonnet is going to score the two point play, but if I came over and just annihilate him, they would throw a penalty on me, then you can't say the two point conversion counts. I had a real problem with Thursday night. Way worse than, than Cheffers in that game yesterday.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, Westwood One. He'll be on the call for the Niners and the Colts on Westwood One. What is DK Metcalf doing with the fan? His team is winning. He's probably going to be suspended for a game. You make contact with the. I, I know fans say a lot of bad things, negative things, but you can't, you can't take matters into your own hands. What do you think the NFL does?

[Ross Tucker]

I think that they probably will suspend him because this is a lot different than the fan initiating physical contact or the fan, you know, somehow coming on the field or anything like that. DK Metcalf went all the way over into the stands. It wasn't like the guy was right behind him. I mean, that was a good 10 yards behind him. Obviously, whatever the guy said. The guy told the Detroit Free Press that he called DK by his real name. I don't know, it's whatever the D is and the K is. And I guess I didn't know that. But now evidently DK does not like that. By the way, now every defensive back knows that DK does not like if you call him by his real first name. But you can't do that. You cannot walk over. I feel very strongly when fans cross over the line that that's very different. To me, this, you're allowed to say whatever you want to say from the stands. You're allowed to say whatever you want to say. And a player cannot go over there and initiate anything, especially putting their hands on him. I think that the NFL has to come down on him hard, right or wrong.

[Dan Patrick]

Your game tonight, explain to me how the Niners are doing it this year.

[Ross Tucker]

They are a really very well coached team.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, this might be Kyle Shanahan's best coaching that he's done and nobody's going to talk about it when you lose your two best defensive players. Iuka's a no show, Debo's gone. I mean, you had Mac Jones for a while now. Purdy in. In the most competitive division in football.

[Ross Tucker]

It's incredible. You're right. It might be Kyle Shanahan's best coaching job. You know, they have 16 sacks. That's by far the worst in the NFL. Everybody else has at least 22. I'll give Salah.

[Dan Patrick]

So Miles Garrett has more sacks than the Niners.

[Ross Tucker]

Miles Garrett has six more sacks than the Niners. It's unbelievable. I'll give Salah a lot of credit because you lose two of the top 20 players in football on defense and he still has had a couple games where they gave up less than 10 points. We'll see what happens tonight. My guess is, dan, they'll drop 8 in coverage and pack it up and in and force Philip Rivers to try to have to fit the ball in tight windows or throw it deep. But they're just very, very well coached both sides of the ball. The offense is a machine. Here's the other thing. It's crazy. Watch the game tonight, Dan, and tell me that McCaffrey hasn't lost just a little.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yes, definitely he's lost it.

[Ross Tucker]

And the guy's going to have 2,000 yards from scrimmage. He's third in the NFL with over. He's going to have 418 touches. The last time somebody had over 400 touches was McCaffrey had 408 in 2019. I'm in awe. Imagine this, okay? Imagine not being the player you used to be and losing a step or half a step. And yet you go out and get an NFL football over 400 times and have over 2,000 yards. That guy coming off of the two injuries last year, that guy is an absolute warrior. I'm incredible. I'm like, he's one of those guys in my, in my hall of Fame that I'm in awe of that he's able to do this. The mental and physical toughness, just like you just. Hey, listen, I had to fly from New Orleans to. Through Chicago to Indianapolis to get here to call a game with Kevin Harle tonight. I mean, you know, profiles encourage. I know that. I don't. I don't know when the last episode they've done is, but I stay in. I have to stay in a Marriott here. And I just went to the M Lounge. Breakfast was delicious. It's not easy, man.

[Dan Patrick]

You're my hero. Thank you, buddy. Merry Christmas to you. Safe travel.

[Ross Tucker]

Yeah. Merry Christmas, guys. Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Ross Tucker. That's why he's one of our favorites there. He'll be on the call in Westwood One radio. That'll be the Niners Colts coming up tonight. We'll take a break Play of the Day next and your phone calls right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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Oh my God. The play of the day. Play of the day. Check this out. Snap. Caleb Clay fit. Looking to throw. Going deep. Searching for DJ Moore over the shoulder. Catch made. Touchdown Bears. It's over at Soldier Field. The Iceman cometh. The iceman Taketh a 46 yard spiral to the end zone to DJ Moore. What a throw. What a catch. Bears radio network. But you got to give credit to the Green Bay Packers. You did everything you could possibly do to lose that game and lose that game. Malik Willis though, played pretty well. Bears have won six games this season after trailing in the final two minutes. It's your play of the day brought to you by great folks at Panini. They just sent us a Caitlin Clark book that is awesome. And available on their [e-mail] rare inserts start a continue collection now at paniniamerica.net hottest rookies, biggest superstars, the all time greats and the only place to collect them all Panini trading cards. So thank you again for your partnership on this program. Update the poll results and then we'll get to some phone calls here by the Way there is a groundswell for a meet Tuesday. Dylan wanted to know if I'd give him the okay to get some product from Heartland State. Co I said, yep, it's a. Whip up a batch of something tomorrow. Be our final show before the holidays. So we'll have a meet Tuesday tomorrow to go along with most valuable, least valuable Dan net announcement and of course, the much anticipated most valuable BRG Seton. Who or whom do you believe in least? The Alabama Crimson Tide or the Miami Hurricanes? Who or whom do you believe in least? I'm gonna. I'm gonna say Miami again. Yeah, of course. Of course you're gonna say yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, I think so. I mean, you know, they did win at A M. Defense is good. Just not sold on Carson Beck leading you to the promised land. But Alabama, you gotta. You gotta give him credit, man. Social media was all over Alabama when it was 17 to nothing. Oh, Notre Dame should have been in there. And then all of a sudden they went quiet. And if you're Oklahoma and you're playing at home, you're up 17 to nothing. Then all of a sudden your place, your punter forgets to punt, your quarterback throws a pass pattern where the receiver, you know, miscommunication. The DB was the only one there, took it back for the touchdown and momentum. Man, did that shift and it never went back to Oklahoma. All right, a couple of phone calls in here. David in Ohio. Hi, David. Welcome back. What's on your mind?

[Marcus]

Hey, Dan. Happy holidays.

[Dan Patrick]

You guys in the.

[Marcus]

Dan, it's best and worst of the weekend. Steelers beating the Detroit Lions and vaulting Paul's team into the playoffs. You're welcome, Paul. Worst of the weekend is DK Metcalf taking a swipe of that Detroit Lions fan. Uncalled for. There's no place in our sport for that.

[Dan Patrick]

So thank you for. All right, thank you, David. Buddha in San Francisco. Hi, Buddha.

[Marcus]

What up, dp? Happy Monday, boys. Good yontiff, Fritzi. Well, dp, you and Ross just brought it up, but it is so wild to me that my Hobbled Niners are in the position they're in. And I mean, if we win tonight against Old Man Rivers, we're. We should be favored against Paulie Bears next week and then the final week. That's spicy Meatball at home against the Sea Chicken. So excited about that. Best of the weekend, Dan. Shout out to Marcus in Jacksonville. And Dan, some of the shots of Sean Payton on the sidelines yesterday during the game were hilarious. Like, his facial expressions were like oh, better call Mako because the Jaguars look legit. Dp. And my favorite was Liam Cohen's comments out of the game about the smaller team market going up to the mile high and getting that wind. That was snarky.

[Dan Patrick]

I like that.

[Marcus]

And worst of the weekend, Dan, the ending in Detroit, like you guys just talked about it. But I mean, like my big mama says, that was embarrassed. I mean the, the refs looking confused out there and also the, the Chiefs QB room. Man, what a fall that has taken down to the third string quarterback.

[Dan Patrick]

Not good. And CBS has got to show, you know, more replays like split screen. It took four minutes to decide what would happen on that final play. All you're doing is showing the refs and Jared Goff trying to get involved in the conversation. Show the replay. I don't want to see officials going, I don't know. I don't know. What do you. I don't know. What about you? I don't know. I think it's a touchdown, but then it's past interference. All right, well, make sure you let people know. Don't say it's a touchdown and then come back and say no on second after further review. It's a touchdown that's called back because there was past interference on the play. Horrible. Horrible. Yes, Paul, it reminded me of old days with that show American Idol and Ryan Seacrest, you are going home tonight. Like he would like drag it out.

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I couldn't believe the ref said touchdown first. It's mind boggling. It's it. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, if we listen back to it, the official should have done it exactly backwards to what he said. The last thing he says I think is there is no touchdown. You got to make that clear first and then go on to explain why there is no touchdown. Especially in Detroit where everyone's going to lose their mind celebrating which they hear. It was a touchdown.

[Dan Patrick]

You're not going to hear that. It's not a touchdown. All you're going to hear is it's a touchdown and then you're not going to hear, yeah, but there was pass interference. Game over. Oh, man. Talk about burying the lead. You know, when you're the official, it took you four minutes and then you screwed it up. Oh, my goodness. All right, so new poll question coming up next hour. We'll talk to Rick Neuheisel. Rick Neuheisel promised a college football song for the holidays will give you our best and worst of the weekend. And the popular analyst for CBS Sports, Nate Burleson will join us as well. 8773-DP-SHOP and by the way, go to danpatrick.com you can place your vote for most valuable and least Valuable. Danite I have not asked for any updates on who is leading or not leading. I'm going to be like Chris Fowler is with the Heisman Trophy. I'm just going to wait. I'll open up the envelope tomorrow and I'll make the announcement. Most Valuable Least Valuable Dan M. And Most Valuable BRG Mario has a pie to the face coming if his prediction's wrong on the brg.

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What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Mmm. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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