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Marvin
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
Made it to a Thursday. It's hour one. Good morning. Come on in. Stay a while. Minister of humor, Fritzi is here. Dylan in the back row we got Marvin, Paulie, front row. Yours truly in the back room. Guys as well, you can be part of the program. You can email, you can tweet, you can dial us up. 877-3DP Show Operator Tyler sitting by taking your phone calls as always. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show and the first hour brought to you by Rec tech. Go to rec tech.com search the Dan Patrick show official rules to enter for your chance to win a Rec Tech grill that will hand out tomorrow Play of the day poll questions, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming. Good morning. If you're watching the program, you can watch on Peacock, download the app or the NBC Sports Network and our radio affiliates over 400 radio affiliates around the country. NBA on Prime Analyst former coach Stan Van Gundy A little bit later on, the Cavs beat the Pistons as Detroit melts down in the final two and a half minutes. They go into overtime. Cavaliers up 3, 2 in the series and a chance to close things out. And if you're looking at the point spreads, it's been three and a half now. It was four and a half last night. Pistons will be three and a half point underdogs on Friday in Cleveland and the spurs four and a half point favorites Friday in Minnesota. So no basketball coming up tonight. The NBA wisely stepping aside because of the NFL schedule release. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but it feels like when the NFL decides to roll something out, get out of the way and some of these matchups, look, we know the schedules for these teams. We don't know when they're going to be playing somebody. Is it going to be over Thanksgiving, going to be over Christmas, is it going to be overseas? So you kind of have an idea of okay, that's our schedule. Those are the games we're going to be playing. But you know, packers against the Rams on Thanksgiving Eve. Boy, that's tasty. Thanksgiving, Bears, Lions, Eagles, Cowboys, Chiefs and the Bills. Then you get a Black Friday, you get Denver against the Steelers. And who has it better than the NFL?
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Marvin
Nobody.
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Dan Patrick
Paulie, do you have last year's slate of games around Thanksgiving?
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Paulie
Yeah, the Thanksgiving Day early game was Packers, Lions. Then it was chiefs, cowboys at 430. And that did a gigantic number. I mean, I think an all time number. The late game, the primetime game was
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Dan Patrick
Bengals, Ravens, which thought that was going to be a big game. Yeah, it turned out to be a dude like the Eagles against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. It's going to do a monster rating. That's why whatever you say about the Cowboys, that not winning, not Going back to a Super bowl, not really competing at a high level. They still bring in eyeballs. The NFC east, you bring in eyeballs. Eagles, Giants, Cowboys. And you know, that's where the Cowboys, you know, stack up against any team in any sport when it comes to must see tv because you're either tuning in because your dad was a Cowboy fan, therefore you inherited that fandom, or maybe your grandfather was, and then your dad was when they were really good. And they haven't been that good for 30 years now. But you're still. You're kind of caught up in the. Why did you do this to me, dad? We have a lot of fans who. You inherit that fandom. Like, why am I a Jets fan? Well, because I was in. Your grandfather was as well. And we remember when Joe Namath won a Super Bowl. That's a long time ago, dad. Yep. I'll blame your grandfather.
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Marvin
Yes, Marvin, Are you putting the Cowboys in the same category as the Jets?
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Dan Patrick
No.
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Marvin
Okay.
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Dan Patrick
No. I'm just saying you inherit the fandom, sometimes you get the baton. And if you're a Jets fan, maybe your grandfather was a Jets fan and they won a Super bowl and then your dad became a Jets fan and now you're a Jets fan. Sometimes it's child abuse when you think about why. Why did you do that to me? Yes, Marvin.
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Marvin
But as far as being a Cowboys fan, and I'm a 49ers fan, so I do not like the Cowboys at all, but I'm not sure if that's child abuse. They've been really good. They've had great playoff. Not playoff success, regular season success, but have just, you know, crapped the bed in the playoffs.
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Dan Patrick
Wait a minute. It's a 33 year drought for America's
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Marvin
team, but I'm talking about not being competitive at all.
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Dan Patrick
Okay? I mean, they're. They tease you sometimes in the regular season, and then they get into a playoff game at home against Green Bay and you go, what just happened here?
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Marvin
So the Cowboys are the big tees.
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Dan Patrick
They. They are big tees. Yes.
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Dylan
Dylan, if you inherited being a Jets fan, I wouldn't fault you for jumping ship. There's a few teams out there where I'm like, I feel like you're allowed to move along at some point if you so choose.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, it should be. But I find that more younger fans, they might root for a player. You know, it's. Mahomes can make you a Chiefs fan or you're just a Mahomes fan. And. And it's more individualized because of fantasy football. It feels like. So when you root, when you're watching a game, you might be rooting for your team, but you're also rooting for your other team, your fantasy team. Yes, Todd.
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Todd
And when you're playing video games, you could put any player on any team. It's, it's also a lot less team, more. I'm going to create this player or put this guy on this squad. So it's totally player driven.
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Dan Patrick
And there was a move yesterday that kind of surprised me and Devon Hn, who's a really good running back, got four years, $64 million. And I was wondering, are you gonna now he's really good and he's worth the money because he can run and catch. But if I'm Miami, I kind of go all in tank and just, I, I wouldn't have brought in Malik Willis just to kind of get me through another year. I would just say, hey, Quinn Ewers, why don't you be the quarterback? And then maybe we'll be in the running for a true franchise quarterback next year. And maybe, maybe you get Arch Manning or one of these other quarterbacks expected to go in the first round. And there are probably five or six quarterbacks who are projected. But if I'm giving a chan, like I don't want to end up in six win land, I want to be like three and four wins. So, all right, we got some younger players we're trying to develop and now we're going to get a chance to get a really good quarterback. Because I've come to the conclusion if I'm the Steelers, I have to walk away from Aaron Rodgers. Now I'm looking at a business perspective here because what are we going to win? We're not the best team in our own division, maybe not the second best team in our own division. And are we going to be back here next year at 9 and 8 and kicking the can down the road? As much as I want to see Rogers play again, if I'm Pittsburgh, I think I have to just come to the conclusion, why don't we try a different approach here? Because we haven't been able to replace Ben Roethlisberger and here we are with Rogers. You're not sure is he going to. I want to know your heart is in it. Like, I want Aaron Rodgers to be there in the off season. I mean, I, I, I'm just surprised that the Steelers as an organization are waiting for Aaron Rodgers again. I'd walk away, I'd be like, no, you know we want you to be here, we want you to want to play. And maybe you just turn it over to Will Howard and just say, hey, let's see what we have with this kid. And maybe he's just a backup, but maybe we get into a better position for the next 10 years instead of next year at this time we're probably going to be coming off a 9 and 8 season, maybe a first round exit. Okay, you're not going, you know, you're always going to be stuck in neutral. It's going to be, this is as far as we go now. Do we change it up at some point? I wouldn't be waiting for a 41 year old quarterback to come back and decide what we're going to do as a team moving forward here. And that brings me to LeBron James, because if I'm the Lakers, I want to be respectful to LeBron. But I also have to look at this as a business. I would move on from LeBron. I would say, you know what, maybe we could use that 60 million someplace else. We have to resign Austin Reeves and that's a big ticket item. And maybe we go out get someone like, as I've been saying, Isaiah Hartenstein, who's just a lunch pale guy. He's going to be there, play hard every single night and resemble what a center should look like and act like in the NBA. But I, I don't try to solve everything right now because you're not going to be better than okc, you're not going to be better than the Spurs. I want to capitalize on, okay, LeBron's farewell tour. And if that's your approach, unlike with Kobe, it was a farewell tour. It felt like for the last couple of years, LeBron, you're going to make the playoffs, but are you going to like the Lakers aren't satisfied with the second round exit. You can't go away. We made the playoffs and we won 55 games and we lost in this second round. I'd walk away, I would say to LeBron the only, the only way I would bring him back and I want to see him play again. I just have to look at this from a standpoint of the organization, not my feelings for LeBron because he's surpassed every milestone. So there's nothing that you go, oh, you know, come to this game because if he scores this many points or has this many rebounds or he wins this game, I have to move on because this is Lucas team. And as great as LeBron was sacrificed by played well as the third wheel carried them, you know, the last couple of weeks of the regular season, carried them in the playoffs as well. But I have to be pragmatic about this and say, are we better in the long run here, the long haul, than one more year? Now they're in a better position, it feels like, than the Steelers are. But here you are. You're going to be waiting for LeBron. What are you going to play? Pay him? That's commensurate to being one of the greatest players of all time. The farewell tour. Well, you're the Lakers, you're the show in town. People are still going to come out to your games. So I don't know how you benefit financially. And if you want him to come back, you say, all right, come back. We're going to invest in you for one year. There was a story, Dave McManaman, of the mothership, and he had a report that LeBron was upset because he didn't get the game ball for when he surpassed Kareem Abdul Jabbar for most games or most victories. I don't even know what the milestone was.
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Todd
Most wins in the history by any player, okay, in the NBA.
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Dan Patrick
But Rob Pelinka, the GM, gave the game ball to JJ Redick, who won his 100th career game. So Dave McMenamin had this little scoopage. I don't know how this gets out, unless LeBron wants this to get out, because, you know, he's buddy Buddy with Dave McMenamin. And does he say, hey, you know how petty these MFers are? You know, they did this. Well. Then you say, well, did they draft your son? Didn't they bring in Russell Westbrook because you wanted him? Didn't they hire your podcast partner, JJ Redick? I mean, they kind of have done some things for you here. And I thought, how petty can this be? I mean, really, is this a real story? And maybe it's just kind of a window into the relationship he may have with the front office. He loves J.J. redick. Well, he should, because that's the guy. He wanted to be his coach. But I got to move on at some point, and it's really difficult. I mean, look back with the Chicago Bulls. Could have run it back one more year with Michael Jordan and Scotty, and front office decided, nope, we're going to break it up. Imagine that. They started a rebuild. They had everybody there. They just had to pay everybody. And all of a sudden, the Tim Floyd era, era and error started. Yes. So at some point now, that, to me, was malpractice. What they did. But if I'm looking at what the Lakers should do and what the Steelers should do, I gotta move on. I can't be stuck in this. Well, one more year and then we'll get to this point next year. And what are we going to be saying? The Steelers could be saying, you know, Aaron played pretty well. Okay, so what are you going to do? Well, we have the 19th pick in the draft. Okay. And then the Lakers bow out in the second round. You know, LeBron played pretty well for a 42 year old. What are you going to do? At some point you have to look at this and say it's more than just year to year. This is more of a window of where are we going to be in three years, five years. And knowing that okc, they are deep and they are young and those guys are signed up. And then you got the spurs, they're deep and they're young and you've got them signed up. So that's where you have to look at this and go, yeah. Come to think of it, it'd be nice to see. I think the Laker Fans don't love LeBron. They love having LeBron. And there's a big difference in that. Like he's not beloved because he's not one of your own. And he did come there and you got a championship in the bubble. But other than that, okay, you don't owe him anything. You've given him a lot and you can say that he reciprocated, but I can't be waiting around and he can still play at a high level. But, and maybe that's part of the problem. I know that I'm getting, you know, 21, 8 and 7 from him next year. If he was really on the decline, then it would be really easy to say, hey, you know, some nice, nice parting gifts for you. We'll keep, we'll keep Bronnie on the roster for an extra year. How's that? We'll do that for you when you leave. All right, 8 7, 73 DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP show we'll come back. Poll question today and the end of the Cavs Pistons game. I thought the officials got it wrong. We'll talk about that as well. We'll take a break. Back after this. Dan Patrick Show.
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Dan Patrick
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Dylan
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Dan Patrick
No basketball Tonight NBA taking the night off to allow the NFL center stage. That's very nice of the NBA to do that. It'll be the Pistons, three and a half point underdogs Friday against Cleveland. The spurs are four and a half point favorites against Minnesota on Friday at the end of regulation. There was a play with about maybe two seconds to go. One second to go. Jared Allen bumped to Sar Thompson and knocked him to the ground and I thought that it if they were both going for the ball then I would say okay, play on. Let's go into overtime. But Thompson is clearly bumped from behind by Jared Allen. So therefore, I have to call it. I know there's one second to go, but I, I have to call it now. I'm sure the NBA is going to say, well, he's 26ft away from the basket. He's not really in a scoring position. I understand that, but it's an accidental trip. It's still a trip. If I accidentally foul you, they still call a foul on me. And I thought that it was it. It was not a no call, in my opinion, because I thought Allen is behind Thompson. If they're both side by side, then I'm okay with that. But I was not okay with what I saw. Here is J.B. bickerstaff, the Pistons head coach. Did they give you a reason why
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Todd
there was no foul call on his. On Jared Allen on that trip?
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Dan Patrick
He found a star. It's bad. I mean, clear. He trips him when he's going for a loose ball in the game situation, you know, that's tough. It's not a debate, in my opinion, because he does trip him. I don't care if their feet get tangled up. Did you trip him? Yes, accidentally. Okay, but I'll still call foul. If that's in the first quarter, they're calling it. I don't like games to end on, you know, plays that I don't think really were going to be scoring plays or impactful plays. But this is the playoffs and you did trip him and there is time on the clock and I have to call it. Yeah, Paulie.
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Paulie
And Thompson made a great steal on the play. He should be rewarded. Not like you said, it wasn't a 50, 50 play. He got tripped from behind. You call it. He goes and shoots in the bonus and they probably steal it.
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Dan Patrick
And I don't want to hear this. And I've already heard analysts say, well, you were up nine with three minutes to go. Okay. Yes, we were. And we allowed Cleveland to come back. But was that a foul? How about we take away. We're up nine with three minutes to go and just say, just look at that play. Don't factor in. Oh, you guys blew a nine point lead. Yes. I mean, they, they went out of their way to allow Cleveland to win this game. They really did. But that to me was a foul. Whether it was accidental or not. Yes.
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Dylan
Dylan, there's some games too where the moment it heads to overtime, you're like, I know exactly how this is going to end. The moment momentum has completely shifted. And you're like, if you're the Pistons there, you're like, no.
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Dan Patrick
And I always love inside the NBA because they give you great analysis. I mean, where else can you get this analysis from Charles Barkley talking about the Cavaliers, Max Streuss, I'm thinking, what
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Marvin
Everybody's like, that's a pretty man.
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Dan Patrick
I don't think everybody. Can I ask you a question? Yes, you can.
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Marvin
What are you attracted to him about him?
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Dan Patrick
I'm not attracted to him, but I can. You said he's attractive. He's a good looking man. What are you attracted about? His good looks?
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Marvin
His face.
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Dan Patrick
His face.
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Marvin
His face.
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Dan Patrick
He's a good looking man. Okay. He's got his bandana headband on, his hair is back. He's got these bright blue or green eyes. He's got his beard on. Paulie's watching the game with his wife. And his wife, when she sees Max Stru. Like, who's that?
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Paulie
I told you that in confidence.
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Dan Patrick
Oops.
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Paulie
My wife hasn't watched 10 minutes of the NBA in 10 years. And I'm like, let's watch the end of this game. It's really tight. She's quiet, she's watching. She doesn't know Donovan Mitchell. And all of a sudden Max Struse hits a three. She goes, who's that? And she said it like that.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Now imagine you're watching Euphoria and then you say, who's that? Then you're going to get in trouble. But Max Struse, who's that? All right, Dylan, what's the poll question? For the first hour of this program,
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Dylan
we have a few dan off our earlier topic. What would be the smarter decision? The Lakers move on from LeBron or the Steelers move on from Aaron Rodgers?
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Dan Patrick
Well, I think the Steelers with Aaron Rodgers, because I gotta look at what is the ceiling here, what's the floor here, and you got smoked in the playoffs. Are we going to go through this again? Like, Steeler fans want and deserve better than this, but it feels like you're kind of. You kind of know how this is going to go as scripted. With LeBron, it's a little bit tougher to say goodbye because he plays at a higher level. But I mean, I'd, I'd walk away. I'd let both guys go. Yes.
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Dylan
Dill, it is funny when you look at the Steelers, it's like on an island. If you just heard, okay, the last two years they've drafted the quarterback from Ohio State and the quarterback from Penn State. You'd be like, one of those guys got to be pretty good. And no one feels that way at all. Drew Allers being deprogrammed.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I saw that. Can you imagine if you were his quarterback's coach at Penn State and everything that you taught him? The Steelers say we have to undo.
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Dylan
It's like the Met, they take the men in black wand and just put it up to him, go.
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Dan Patrick
But Drew Aller, who was pretty hot at the beginning of last season, it was like, okay, this guy is going to be a first round draft pick. It feels like there's always 10 quarterbacks now who may could be first round draft picks. And then we get to the draft and then we have two first round draft picks at the most important position in all of sports. But next year, next year you got what everybody considers one of the better quarterback drafts in recent memory. Yes, Marvin.
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Marvin
The worst thing that happens to quarterbacks is they play great. Their college freshman year and their sophomore year, Christian Hackenberg, oh, man, he's the number one pick in the draft. But then they have to keep playing for three and four years. Then they get exposed.
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Dan Patrick
Yep, that's what happens when I would be leaving after my third year. Yes, Dylan, last year Drew Aller had
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Dylan
like the third or fourth best odds to go number one overall. Preseason, that changed quickly.
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Dan Patrick
But if I'm Pittsburgh, I, I, I know it might hurt one year, but do I want to rip the bandage off and then try to move forward and maybe find our quarterback? I mean, Aaron Rodgers is one more year, maybe. It seems like LeBron might play two years just to prove that. I saw where Steph Curry, I think, wants to play three more years. He wants to play till he's 40, God bless him, if you can do it. But if I'm the Lakers, are we going to be better next year? How much better with LeBron and how much better without him moving forward? Because I don't think you'll be a better team next year because LeBron played really well. But I just think you got to look bigger picture here. And I don't want a player hold the franchise hostage. And if it feels like you've done everything that you can possibly do for LeBron and he's not happy or he has problems with some people in the front office, do we move on because of that? Like, I don't want to be petty because it seems like LeBron might be petty, you got to be grown ups here with your decisions moving forward.
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Dylan
Yeah, Dylan, it's funny that LeBron's, this is now LeBron's longest tenure on a team and you don't really like when you just Split second. Think about him. I associated more with the Cavs in the Heat still than the Lakers.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah, interesting. But his critics, though, the bubble championship, you know, they. They never call it just an NBA championship. It's a bubble championship.
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Dylan
Mickey Mouse.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Like you in the shadows of Mickey Mouse in Orlando.
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Paulie
Yes, Paul, that's always bothered me because that's kind of unfair to the Lakers to criticize the bubble championship. They would have had home court advantage in the playoffs. So all those games were neutral site that. That's actually makes that tougher to win the bubble championship.
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Dan Patrick
Jason in Detroit. Hi, Jason. What's on your mind?
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Caller Jason
Hi. Thanks for having my taking my call. I appreciate it. I just wanted to kind of comment a little bit about what you're just talking about with the officiating. It's not for me. It's not even just Detroit. It's just like a league wide. I mean, when you see the refs, it's like you can tell they don't. They just don't want to call that foul. And then what are we doing? You know, at that point? Like I said, it's not just Detroit. It's like a league wide thing. It's like you can they put the SGA push off on the promo for the. The road to the finals on ABC and ESPN? It's just like, what are that. It's. I'm 49. I played basketball. I played in a pro am league against Lindsey Hunter, Iran, a bunch of other like CBA guys and other stuff like that. I wanted to play in the NBA. I'm now like, this is the first time ever in my life, I'm just like leaving the house. Like when the games come on, I'm like, I don't even want to watch them. And it's like the only thing that can be talked about is the refereeing. It's like the games are just like secondary at this point.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, well, sorry to hear that, Jason, but. But you got to call that. I wonder if that's SGA and he gets knocked down or LeBron gets knocked down or Wemby gets like. I hate thinking that, but I do think that. I mean, I'm watching old clips of NBA action from the 80s in my free time and you'll see Larry Bird comes around a screen, hits a shot, and then they call foul. And it looked like the official was looking around to say, who am I going to pin this on? Because Larry Bird did not get fouled on the play. And it's one of those where you actually Hear the players saying, that's BS and it was. But you're thinking, why do we let the best players get the calls? They're already the best players. But last night, that should have been called. Like it or not, you know, playoff game. It's in the final seconds of the game, regulation. I gotta call it. That's all. Gotta call it. It's like, oh, you know, the officials, they put their whistles away when it's in the final two minutes of a football game and you don't want to call. Well, if I'm a defensive player, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna hold on to you. And you see it. It's egregious sometimes where they're just grabbing because they're like, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. That's what Seattle, the Legion of Boom did. They're like, they're not calling pass interference on every play, so why don't we hold on every single play? And they were correct. Yeah.
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Paulie
Paulie, that non call last night, though, it's in Detroit. I looked at it again. The ref is right there on top of the play. He's direct view, not shielded at all. That's where we're calling. Nothing to end this game.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And he had a great angle, and I think that's where. Who was it? Tony Brothers. Is. Was he the official last night? Now, I don't know if he was the one who was not making the call, but I think he spoke afterwards. But it was like, oh, you know, they're both kind of jostling, you know. No, it felt like Thompson had a step on Jared Allen and he, you know, was going after the ball. It was a play. So Tony Brothers was on the call or non call last night. Let's see. Andrew in Atlanta. Good morning, Andrew. What's on your mind?
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Caller Andrew
Hey, Dan, you. You're kind enough to do a big tease to the main stage. So I was driving by Magic City yesterday into work and was trying to share that clip with my son, and he started asking questions about the main stage. So I was gonna see if I could do maybe a redo so I could have a better clip to share with him and not have as many questions. Is that okay?
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Dan Patrick
Porsche to the main stage. Portia to the main stage.
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Caller Andrew
No main stages here. I just wanted to say, first time, long time. 6 2,300ish. Wanted to see, for your farewell tour, is there a way to get any clips or recordings of your early shows from the attic? And if there's a possibility to shoot a few Shows from the attic with the current team.
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Dan Patrick
The attic is closed for business. Took everything out of there. They were. They were two bedrooms up there that we converted into my side of the studio and the Danette side of the studio. But we've since taken out the big glass partition in there, all the equipment out of there. And you'd never know that we hosted a national radio show from the attic. Good times. I think everybody had a good time except for Todd and.
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Todd
Why do you say that?
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Dan Patrick
You had your little desk and it was, you know, cramped quarters. Seaton and Paulie were up front. There's three flights of stairs you had to go into every day. Up.
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Todd
I did like the smell of breakfast.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah.
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Todd
Coming from down.
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Dan Patrick
I know you guys would come in and my wife's getting the kids off to school. Let's see. Merle in Ohio. Hi, Meryl.
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Caller Merle
Hey, good morning, Dan. Thanks for the opportunity. Long time. First time. Appreciate you guys a great deal. I want to go back to a conversation from the top of the show. I think Dylan made a comment about this last week of kind of NFL fandom and you're born into it and how to let your child find their own way. Grew up in Youngstown, Ohio, just up the road. Came to Columbus to go to Ohio State. But you know, in Youngstown you've got halfway to Pittsburgh, halfway to Cleveland, and you've also got the 49ers as an option because of the departalo and York families there. My dad was a Browns fan, so I was a Browns fan. That's, you know, not an easy road to hoe between the team moving to Baltimore and just being kind of generally bad for a long time. And now everything that comes along with Jimmy Haslam and the ownership mess in Cleveland now. So my daughter, a few years ago, she's five now, so she would have been three then. We're driving through those tunnels coming into downtown Pittsburgh, beautiful city. And we were going to a Pirates game the next day. The Steelers had a home preseason game. So the lights were on over at Hines Field and she saw the diamond logo and as any three year old girl would do, said, I like that team because they've got diamonds. And she stuck with the Steelers. Since then, I've not tried to force her to, you know, choose the Browns because to your point, Dan, that's kind of an abusive thing to do to a child. So she's a Steelers fan. And thanks to my wife finding one of those Rob Lowe NFL hats, I've gone full free agency. And I'll tell You Sundays are a whole lot more fun now without the Browns.
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Dan Patrick
All right, well, thank you, thank you for that. I let my son pick whoever he wanted to pick. It didn't matter to me. And he's a Packer fan. He likes the Red Sox, think he likes the Bruins, hockey. And I'm like, pick whoever you want, but whoever you pick, stay with. And I've told the story. When he was 12, he told me he's a Red Sox fan. And so I went out and got him some gear. He wore the gear. He had a jacket, he had a hat. He wore it to school first day and he ran into some Yankee fans at the school and they took the hat, put it in a urinal and they peed on it. And so that's when I had to kind of explain to my wife what fandom is because she's not a sports fan. She, she likes in the individual things like running a marathon or canoeing or something like that. And, and she's like, she, we should go to the school and complain. I said, no, hun, this is the rivalry that. Well, they can't do that. I said, no, they can't. But they did. And it's part of the rivalry. It's okay. I said, as long as he's not getting into a fight. And they just took his hat. I said, I'll get him another hat and then you wear it. See what happens. Yes.
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Marvin
Marvin, you didn't put him in boxing lessons or anything? You take, take my son's hat off?
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Dan Patrick
No, but my wife wanted me to go and I said no, that's the worst thing. I'm not. Let him, he picked his team.
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Marvin
Let him fight.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And I said, hey you, now you're going to find out how much you like the Red Sox. And he told everybody that year they were going to win the World Series and you would have guys who were 70, 80 years of age going, he did. He doesn't he know the history like this is going to be heartbreak. And he swore to everybody they were going to win the World Series and that's the year they won the World Series. And so I said, okay, now, now you understand the rivalry. You, you got one. The Yankees have 27. The rivalry continues. Yes.
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Todd
Todd, when is it okay for a parent to get involved in so called fight their kids, battle for them? You know, is it a certain age? It is a certain school.
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Dan Patrick
Well, why don't I ask you what age do you think it's appropriate that if you fight a battle for your son?
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Todd
I think Once you're, like, in junior high school, late junior high, that probably once you're done with elementary school, you have to kind of figure it out for yourself, whether you're just getting picked on or bullied for no reason or they stole your lunch or they don't like the team you're rooting for. That's what I would say.
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Dan Patrick
Did your mom not step in on your behalf?
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Marvin
She did not.
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Todd
My brother did, though, when I got shoved down a flight of stairs for no reason. Like, late in junior high school, I was going down to the gym, to the gymnasium, and I had a big backpack on. So I'm already off balance with this big backpack with all my school books. God forbid I should leave one of the books home and not carry all them with me or put it in a locker and someone thought it'd be funny to kind of give me a little shove. And I went tumbling down a flight of stairs, and my notebook opened up and all the sheets of paper are flying everywhere, and I'm a total panic, and I'm injured, and I'm trying to gather up all my notes. And, you know, my brother let the, you know, didn't get violent, but he let, you know, those people know that that shouldn't happen again. Because he was a big guy, didn't
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Dan Patrick
want to mess with Big Ira.
- [38:44]
Todd
No. And he's not a violent person, but he just, you know, quietly said, you know, we're not going to do that again.
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Dan Patrick
Well, if you're being bullied, if it. If it's something more than, you know, a rivalry with your sports teams and something is happening, you know, chronically, then. Yeah, then you have to step in. Yes.
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Marvin
Marv, they took your son's hat off and urinated on it.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. That's a fight if he makes. But, you know, there's four Yankee fans in him, so can you fight in
- [39:13]
Marvin
that instance, then I'm getting somebody else. We're even in it.
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Dan Patrick
I think there were more Yankee fans in school than Red Sox fans. I don't think Red Sox fans wanted to come out, you know, from hiding.
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Paulie
Yes, Paul, I could have told you when you bought the hat that you're in trouble.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, okay. I see what you did with that time. Alrighty. Let's take a break. Play of the day.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, my God. The play of the day. This is the play of the day. Check this out. Nature's far circle, nature's long timer Kulak.
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Todd
These guys.
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Dan Patrick
This series is over. Brett Kulak with a bomb. Wow. Altitude Radio network. The avalanche have had 17 different players score a goal in the playoffs, most of any team this season. That's quite a, quite a call by the play by play guy.
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Marvin
It's so good. It's a serious clincher.
- [40:32]
Dan Patrick
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Dylan
Alrighty, Dan, we got two up there right now. The first was, which would be the smarter decision, The Lakers say goodbye to LeBron or the Steelers say goodbye to Aaron Rodgers? 51.6% say Lakers say goodbye to LeBron. But neck and neck there.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Dylan
And then we threw up there. Who would you most want to sit with for Pistons, Cavs, Isaiah Thomas, Mike Tirico, Eminem or 50 Cent? All of whom were in attendance last night? 41% say. Do you want to guess?
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Dan Patrick
Eminem.
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Dylan
Mike Tirico. Oh, running away with it, followed by Eminem.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, good for Mike. If I sit next to 50 or I sit next to Eminem, I'm definitely going to get on tv. I'm going to get some screen time there. I don't know if, if Eminem, if Eminem, you know, was Timothy Shalam and breaking down the second unit of the Pistons, then that would be kind of fun. And Fitty is from New York.
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Dylan
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
So I don't know about that one. And Isaiah, Isaiah. A lot of things to talk about. Yes.
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Marvin
Marv, Isaiah, Michael Jordan go, oh.
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Dan Patrick
If I sit next to Isaiah and I just say, man, what would Michael do in a situation like this?
- [42:18]
Marvin
Yes, Mark, who hates who more? Does ja rule? Does 50 cent hate ja Rule more? Does Isaiah Thomas hate Michael Jordan more?
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Paulie
Battle question.
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Dan Patrick
Well, does Isaiah hate Michael more than Michael hates Isaiah?
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Marvin
I think it's a two way street.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Marvin
Almost like John 50.
- [42:35]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I don't know. That beef.
- [42:37]
Marvin
Oh, it's been brewing for about what's today?
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Dan Patrick
Thursday, 20 years, 50s.
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Dylan
Got many known beefs. Floyd Mayweather, that was going good for a while. And P. Diddy, obviously they 50 cent had a field day with.
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Dan Patrick
I think it's 50 cent. It's not 50 cent.
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Dylan
50.
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Dan Patrick
It's fitting.
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Todd
Is it?
- [42:55]
Dan Patrick
It's not 50 cents and it's. Yeah, it's 50 cent. There's no s at the end of it.
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Marvin
F, F, I, D, D, y. Yeah, okay.
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Dan Patrick
50 Cent.
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Dylan
I think they teach their own.
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Dan Patrick
Well, in my neighborhood, it was Fitty.
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Caller Andrew
In your neighborhood?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Marvin
We've been to your neighborhood, they call him Fitty.
- [43:16]
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Marvin
Okay.
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Dan Patrick
Yes.
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Paulie
Hey, half dollar.
- [43:21]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Arlene, who's in her 80s, you know, she'll be like. Did you watch the game with Fitty last night? Yes, I did. Arlene. Jay in Oregon. Hi, Jay. What's on your mind today?
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Caller Jay
Hey, Dan, Good morning. Good morning, fellas. I have a couple things, so I'll try to be real brief concerning my Steelers. I totally agree with you that we should move on from Rodgers. I just think the thing with the Steelers and Rogers is, though, that I think the organization and Rodgers has known all along that he's coming back. I don't think he's stringing us along necessarily. I think we should have moved on from him also. And then, you know, give. Give the kid Will Howard a shot. That's why I don't like the hour pick either, because we kind of have the same dude already that we haven't even given a shot to.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I get it. But, you know, the Steelers don't rebuild. They. I can't remember the last time they were in a rebuild was when they got Terry Bradshaw as the number one overall pick. That was what, 1969? 1970. But I don't remember them. Where they go, you know what? We got five wins. We'll get better players in the draft. Yeah.
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Paulie
Paul, in the past 30 seasons, the Steelers have been under 500 once.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And, you know, feels like they'll be 9 and 8 this year. Maybe you're 10 and 7, but are you satisfied with 10 and 7, knowing that you're not a real threat in the playoffs? Like you're going to make the playoffs, pretty much guaranteed, but you're not going to do damage. Ms. Fritz, he likes to say. One hour in the books, two more to go. Fritz, he's here. Dylan's here. Marvin's here, Paulie's. Who's going into the confessional?
- [45:15]
Dylan
I believe I am.
- [45:16]
Dan Patrick
Oh, Dylan is. All right. If you're watching on Peacock, Dylan in the interrogation room. Coming up, hour two on the way.
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