Hour 1 – Ray Lewis Is not Walking Through That Door, NFL Power Rankings

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show — Hour 1

Episode Title: Ray Lewis Is Not Walking Through That Door, NFL Power Rankings
Date: September 23, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick, with Danettes (Paulie, Seton, Todd, Marvin)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts & Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Overview

This episode dives deep into the fallout from the Detroit Lions’ dominant win over the Baltimore Ravens, spotlighting shifts in team identities, the evolution of NFL defenses, and this week's evolving power rankings. Along with a dose of Dan Patrick’s trademark humor and banter, the hour features insight into the Ravens’ defensive struggles, the Lions’ statement performance, increased fumble rates in the NFL, and a spirited debate on whether listening to audiobooks counts as reading. The show also opens the lines for thoughtful listener calls and includes a reflective interlude about Dan’s eventual post-retirement plans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lions vs. Ravens: Where Did the Ravens' Defense Go?

• Dan Patrick opens with concern about the Ravens’ defensive legacy, asking where the “opportunistic” and “dominant” Ravens defense has gone.
  • “Where did the Ravens defense go? Because it used to be the Ravens had a great defense…now they're an offensive-minded team, which is fine unless the offense you're facing is better than your offense.” (03:07)
• The Lions ran for 224 yards, the most the Ravens have allowed since 2017.
• Noteworthy: The Lions achieved two 95+ yard TD drives in one game, a rarity since 2021.
• Dan praises Dan Campbell's coaching style—gruff but sharp, balancing aggression and solid game management.
• Aiden Hutchinson’s impact is highlighted: “Aiden Hutchinson is back, in case you didn’t know” (04:27).
• The key turning point: A forced fumble by the Lions on Derrick Henry, leading to a pivotal score.
  • “And it sounded like this...” [Replay of Lions’ turnover call] (05:56)

2. NFL Fumble Trends & the ‘Punch Out’ Technique

• Discussion centers on increased running back fumbles, focusing on Derrick Henry’s three straight games with a fumble.
  • Henry’s own frustrated quote: “Crazy right now…fumbles in critical moments…ain’t a good shot. I apologize to [Titans] Nation and I just keep working and get this fixed.” (06:37)
• Dan traces the origins of the punch-out technique to “Peanut” Tillman, suggesting defenders now prefer punching for the ball over tackling.
  • “If you can't tackle [Derrick Henry], then go for the ball. I certainly understand that…I wouldn't want to tackle him.” (07:32)
• Seton shares stats underscoring the trend:
  • Average RB fumbles/year: ~120 (2018-2023), jumped to 140 last year, tracking to 160 this season (08:26).

3. Who’s in Better Shape: Ravens or Chiefs?

• Early poll question debate: Which contender is better positioned—Ravens or Chiefs?
  • Dan: The Ravens’ division is softer with AFC North injuries, but their defense is alarming. The Chiefs’ offense lacks firepower, but their defense is sturdy.
    • “Ray Lewis isn't walking through the door. Terrell Suggs isn't walking through the door.” (09:20)
• Todd points out divisional dynamics favor the Ravens, especially post–Joe Burrow injury (10:56).

4. NFC Power Rankings: Tier One Debate

• Who’s elite in the NFC after the Lions’ win?
  • Dan’s top 4: Eagles, Lions, Packers, Rams. He resists recency bias and explains why he won’t dismiss the Packers after one strong game (11:55).

5. Tangent: Do You Actually Read Books?

A humorous and relatable interlude on modern reading habits

• Dan and the crew grapple with attention spans, the intimidation of thick novels, and whether listening to audiobooks counts as actual reading.
  • “I try, I look like I read a lot of books, but I read a lot of articles. I can last through an article, unless it’s a really long article…” — Dan (12:45)
  • Paulie pushes: “Is listening to a book on tape reading a book?” (15:09)
  • Dan: “I’ll give you full credit. I mean, somebody’s reading the book to you, but that’s okay.” (15:19)
  • Todd: “To me, that’s like an audio movie… It’s being read to you.” (15:29)
  • Debates over Cliff’s Notes vs. Monarch Notes, Brussels sprouts vs. Brussel sprouts, and Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse’s name origins add a light-hearted touch (15:45–17:59).

6. Listener Calls: Game Analysis & Football Philosophy

• Keith from Chico and James from Virginia offer detailed breakdowns of the Lions-Ravens game and personnel needs (26:17–28:28).
  • Keith: “Aiden Hutchinson makes his return… forces a fumble… played great to over 200 yards on the ground, four rushing touchdowns, all while golf gets sacked zero times.” (26:17)
  • James: “Ravens need another elite receiver… I trust Derrick Henry all the way.” (27:35)
• Dan comments on the pundit tendency to “move the goalposts” for big-name teams, observing that “not very many people are watching games—they’re watching highlights” (29:58).
  • Paulie and Seton discuss how teams like the Chiefs are given the benefit of the doubt on reputation, unlike the Ravens (31:10).

7. Dan Patrick’s (Non-)Retirement & Post-Show Musings

• Dan dismisses rumors about coming out of retirement for TV, reiterating he’s content hosting his show through his planned timeframe.
• Seton and Paulie pitch ideas for Dan’s future—deep-dive interview shows, à la Letterman or Roy Firestone.
  • Dan: “I don’t think people find people that interesting anymore from the standpoint of watching them do an interview…” (37:06)
  • Paulie: “You’re the best interviewer in the business. That’s what people would be tuning into.” (38:53)
• Dan jokes about possible future in acting or “awful Broadway” (39:43, 40:03).

8. Play of the Day

• Lions’ RB David Montgomery’s 31-yard touchdown run puts the game on ice. (44:36)
  • “Golf takes, turns, gives to Montgomery… there he goes… to the end zone, touchdown Detroit Lions… Lions have put this game on ice.” — Lions Radio Network (44:36)

9. More Listener Calls & Power Rankings Debate

• Listeners weigh in: Lions as Super Bowl contenders, the effect of division strength, and perennial questions about QBs and playoff wins (46:41–51:27).
  • Dan: “It’s the same thing with Lamar and the Ravens… you got to have rings.” (47:31)
  • Todd: “If the Chiefs go to the Super Bowl again, Patrick Mahomes is going to be in the Michael Jordan category…” (51:27)
  • Dan: “Mahomes would be… more ‘LeBron-like’, because Mike didn’t lose championships.” (51:49)
• Final power rankings reaffirmed: Chiefs and Lions as favorites, strong words for the Rams and Eagles as well.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It used to be the Ravens had a great defense…now they're an offensive-minded team, which is fine unless the offense you’re facing is better than your offense.” — Dan Patrick (03:07)
• “Ray Lewis isn’t walking through that door. Terrell Suggs isn’t walking through the door. Ed Reed is not walking through the door.” — Dan Patrick (09:20)
• “All three of Derrick Henry's fumbles this season are off punch outs. Maybe it's not Derrick Henry. It's the new play for the defenders.” — Seton (08:26)
• “Is listening to a Book on tape. Reading a book?... I’ll give you full credit.” — Dan Patrick (15:19)
• “You want your life to work out…you got to study.” — Dan, on advice to his kids versus his own study habits (17:13)
• “You’re the best interviewer in the business. That’s what people would be tuning into.” — Paulie (38:53)
• Play of the day: “Lions have put this game on ice” — Lions Radio Network (44:38)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:07 — Dan’s opening monologue/Ravens-Lions analysis
• 05:56 — Key turnover: Lions’ forced fumble on Derrick Henry (audio clip)
• 08:26 — NFL fumble stats and “punch out” discussion
• 09:20 — Who's in better shape: Ravens or Chiefs?
• 11:55 — NFC Tier One power rankings
• 12:45–17:59 — Book reading, audiobooks, and Cliff’s Notes debates
• 26:17 — Listener “Keith” with Lions-Ravens breakdown
• 29:58 — Dan on “moving the goalposts” in sports narratives
• 37:06–40:03 — Dan’s post-retirement musings & Letterman-style show pitch
• 44:36 — Play of the Day: Montgomery’s touchdown run
• 47:31 — Playoff QB legacy discussion (Lamar & Mahomes)
• 51:27 — Chiefs, Mahomes, and the Jordan/LeBron analogy

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Tone & Style

True to form, the hour balances sharp sports analysis with playful banter, pop culture tangents, and self-deprecating admissions. Listener calls are invited to offer precise, even “analyst-level” observations. The hosts encourage humor, authenticity, and a touch of nostalgia.

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For listeners seeking a full NFL recap, a look at shifting team narratives, and water-cooler-worthy sports debate—with all the laughs and asides of the Dan Patrick Show—this episode delivers on every front.

Transcript

[Dan Patrick]

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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It's hour one on this Tuesday Dan and the Dan Patrick Show. A lot to recap Jim Harbaugh will join us in an hour from now. Fitz, Magic, Ryan Fitzpatrick will join us and as well, your phone calls always welcome. Operator Tyler sitting by 877-3-DP-SHELL. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Thank you for downloading the app. We say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. The merchandise store is open for business, stocked with new gear. Go to danpatrick.com STAT OF THE Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program this first hour brought to you by Little TLC from Mako from dense to faded paint, they've got you covered. Literally. You can get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako. Play the Day Poll question Stat of the Day all of that forthcoming. Watching the game last night and watching what the Lions did to the Ravens made me wonder where did the Ravens defense go? Because it used to be the Ravens had a great defense. They always had a great defense and opportunistic defense. They forced turnovers, they got sacks and they led with their defense. Now they're an offensive minded team, which is fine unless the offense you're facing is better than your offense. And the Lions offense last night was that when you have two drives over 95 yards, you're sending a real loud message to the other team. You can't stop us. You could only hope to contain us. David Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs each scored two rushing touchdowns. They rushed for 224 yards. That's the most a Ravens defense has allowed since 2017. The Lions, the first team to have two touchdown drives of 95 or more more yards in the same game since 2021. That's one of those, that's old school. That's not flashy, that's not tricky. That's just, hey, we're gonna run, we're gonna run over there. Montgomery is going to run over there. Jameer Gibbs is going to run there. That's when you, you take a team's heart away and then you couple that with seven sacks and then you have the punch out of Derrick Henry and the Lions with a huge win. And then the Ravens have to go to Kansas City next weekend. One of those teams is going to be one in three. But the Lions, everything, you know, as far as, oh, they're coordinators, they're not the same team. And you know, they got, they got blown out when they played the Packers. Absolutely. But what we've seen is Dan Campbell gives the presence of this gruff guy, but he calls a Good game because I, I put this on Dan Campbell with his ability to handle the offense and you saw that last night. Now they're still going to go forward on fourth down. They'll have a couple of trick plays in there. But this was just an Aiden Hutchinson is back, in case you didn't know. But you know, you had the big play. And that was Derek Henry's fumble. And it sounded like this. Jackson hands it to Henry, five balls.

[Caller]

Out, picked up by the Lion.

[Dan Patrick]

They've got it inside the 20 yard line. DJ re the football in his hands. The Lions stripped it away from Derrick Henry. What a big turn of events.

[Caller]

And the Lions have got it now.

[Dan Patrick]

And it's the punch out that, that's, you know, and it started with Peanut Tillman with the Bears. I think he's the godfather of the punch out. But here's three fumbles with Derek Henry and two of those fumbles have cost them dearly, cost them the game. Here's Derek Henry on his fumbling issues. Crazy right now. Three games straight in my career, straight straight. Fumbles and critical moments. Yeah, ain't a good shot. I apologize to Slot Nation and I just keep working and get this fixed. Yeah, you just don't expect that. And I always go back to Tiki Barber when he had his fumbling issues with the Giants and nearly cost him his job. And then he learned how to hold the ball differently and he, he was, he ran almost like Forrest Gump with his arms up really high. But he wasn't fumbling anymore and has had a borderline hall of Fame career because of that. But with Derek Henry and the punch outs, and this is. If you can't tackle him, then go for the ball. I certainly understand that. I wouldn't want to tackle him. But if you can go for that punch out, and plus these defensive players are allowed to hit the opposition like you can punch somebody in the arm. I mean, there's, there's nothing, there's no rules against that. And if you go back to. I don't know if it was hard knocks and Seaton probably can give you better information on it. I didn't see it, but Seaton told me about it when Aaron Rodgers was mad at Max Crosby because Max Crosby on every play was hitting Aaron Rodgers in his passing army.

[Paulie]

Yeah, I think it was Aaron Rodgers. It was definitely Max Crosby though. And whoever the quarterback was, if it wasn't Aaron Rodgers, I apologize. But he, every time Max Crosby even got near him, he punched him in his throwing arm, right in the shoulder. He'd punch him. And the quarterback, it's like, dude, stop, man. You know what you're doing? He's like. Max Crosby's like, what?

[Dan Patrick]

What?

[Paulie]

I don't. What do you mean? What do you mean? Every time he went by him, bang, just smashed him right in the throwing shoulder, right in the arm.

[Dan Patrick]

But you're allowed to do that if you're a defensive player. I can wind up and say, I'm going for the ball. I can try to punch you, and worst case scenario, I'm going to hit you in the arm. Yeah. Paulie.

[Seton]

All three of Derrick Henry's fumbles this season are off punch outs. And I went back and looked. He never has had more than five in a single season. So maybe it's not Derrick Henry. It's the new play for the defenders. I asked our stats people to look at this. From 2018 to 2023, there was an average of about 120 fumbles per year by NFL running backs. Last year jumped to 140. This year, it's on pace for 160.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seton]

So in the past two years, fumbles for running backs are up quite a bit.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, we'll come up with a poll question. Got our play of the day coming up as well. And phone numbers. 877-3-DP-SHOP SEATON. What are we going to go with? First hour of the program?

[Paulie]

Let's see. Well, we have a random one here that maybe I'll save for a second, but who's in better shape right now, the Ravens or the Chiefs?

[Dan Patrick]

It feels like we've seen the best that the Ravens are going to be from the standpoint of offense. You know, you lose to Buffalo, no shame in that. You lose to the Lions, the way you lost to the Lions would be really disconcerting because I don't. Ray Lewis didn't walk in through the door. Terrell Suggs isn't walking through the door. Ed Reed is not walking through the door. You got to score a lot of points. Now. You do have the potential to do that because Lamar did have a good passing night. It's. It's almost as if. And Troy Aikman said this on the broadcast, he's like, hey, I wouldn't rush Lamar Jackson. I would have as many defensive backs as possible because I don't want him to run. I. I can have him stay in the pocket. We can eventually get to him. And that's what they did last night. They had seven sacks on him. It seems. I'm. I don't Think he's ever been sacked that many times, even close to that? Because you would think he would be able to get away, but they kept him in the pocket and then you have the secondary is like, you know, we're going to bottle up their, their receivers and it worked. Now, I did have a good passer rating and threw for three touchdowns, but what the Lions did was an interesting philosophy, but it still goes back to the Ravens defense. The Chiefs have a good defense now. They don't have the offense that the Ravens have, but I do think once they get a couple of their wide receivers back, then we're going to see if Kansas City is real. And maybe Kansas City still has Tyree Kill in play because I don't think the Dolphins are going anywhere. Yes, Todd, I think the Ravens are.

[Todd]

In better shape only from a division standpoint. With Joe Burrow out, the Browns aren't anything even though they snuck past the the Packers. But Denver and the Raiders and Chiefs, granted they're all one and two, but just looking at the AFC north and af, I'd be more comfortable as a Raven fan in the long run this year.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it's a great point. If you buy into is Denver going to be like they were last year? The Chargers, they got injuries. Najee Harris out for the season. So yeah, I certainly understand putting divisional play in there. Nick Bose is done for the year. Another injury for the 49ers. Wow. An ACL tear and Naji Harris's ACL with the Chargers. What other or Achilles? What. What else do we have seen?

[Paulie]

Tier one of the nfc. Paul just sent this over. Tier one of the nfc. Is that the Eagles alone or the Eagles and the Lions?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I would put the packers in there too. I mean, the packers blew out the Lions, so. And granted they, I know they lost to Cleveland, but if we're going recency bias, then I understand that. But Green Bay did beat Detroit head up. I would, I would put three teams in there. I mean, I still think the Rams are in that top five in the nfc, but I would say and I think the Eagles would look great. I mean, they needed heroic performance by Jalen Hurts and a blocked field goal. I would say Lions, Packers, Rams, Eagles. That'd be my top, my top four. What else?

[Paulie]

Do you read books?

[Dan Patrick]

I try.

[Paulie]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Often. Yes.

[Paulie]

Here and there or no.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Mike Florio came in yesterday and he's got a new book and he want to know because I have all these books in here. I have a huge wall of books. And he goes, do you Read books. And I go, no, I mean I tried to, I just don't have the attention span. I try, I look like I read a lot of books, but I read a lot of articles. I'm, I can, I can last through an article, unless it's a really long article and then it takes me a couple of days to get through that really long article. I just, I, I, I lose interest. The same thing with TV shows. You know, there's a series on and you know, my wife will say, man, you really like severance? And then I watched I think 12 minutes and I was done. And she goes, how did, how do you only give it 12 minutes? I go hun, you gotta capture, capture my attention or I'm gone.

[Seton]

Yeah, Paulie, but what kind of articles? Those deep dive Vanity Fair articles or like those Us Weekly six paragraph articles.

[Dan Patrick]

I probably could, you know, get through a Vanity Fair article or GQ or Esquire, but you know, Us Weekly, you know, if I'm at the physical therapist, I'm gonna look at that. When they say, Mr. Patrick, we're ready for you. Hold on, I'm, I'm reading something here. Timothy Chalamet has got a new haircut. Hold on, I'll be there.

[Todd]

Yes, Todd, is it completely attention span or do you ever get intended by the size of a book? Like I can deal with like an 150 page book, but can you sit down with some four or five hundred page thing, a novel? I'm like, I'm never going to get through this.

[Dan Patrick]

This will take a year. I can't do it. And then my wife is in a book club, so she's reading a book a week. And then I'm like, okay. I said, and then she'll say, hey, you know, you should read this book. And then she'll give it to me and then she realizes that I didn't read the book and I just say I'm, you know, I'll read the COVID and what, you know, people are saying about it, but it's, it's just, even when we have guests on and they have a book out, I'll read reviews on it, but, and sometimes I'll go through and get excerpts. You know, Seth Wickersham wrote an article about the quarterback and I actually read a lot, you know, I just skipped chapters and, and I was just looking for whatever I found interesting. But yeah, it's a shame because I am not a good reader. Never have been.

[Seton]

Yes, Paulie, follow up question on do you read books? Is listening to a Book on tape. Reading a book.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna give you credit for it. Yeah.

[Seton]

Partial credit or full credit?

[Dan Patrick]

I'll give you full credit.

[Seton]

Your voice went up a little.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'll give you full credit. I mean, somebody's reading the book to you, but that's okay. I'm fine with that. Yes. Todd, that.

[Todd]

To me, that's like a audio movie or something. I don't know if that's reading a book. I think, you know, flipping the pages, even if you're using technology and you're moving it with your finger across the board or whatever, I just. That sounds like.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know.

[Todd]

I'm not gonna say cheating. It's not the book experience, in my opinion. It's being read to you.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, it's either that or Cliff Notes version. And I was king of the Cliff Notes version, by the way. It's Cliff's Notes.

[Seton]

Cliff's notes?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

As in his personal notes?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it's cliffs. I don't know. I mean, I don't know Cliff, but Cliff's Notes. I remember I would. I'd read those. Yeah. If you said I could do Cliff Notes or I could have somebody read me a book, I'd rather somebody read me a book instead of me just cheating off somebody's paper. Yes.

[Paulie]

That's kind of like. They're actually called Brussels sprouts.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

It's not Brussels sprouts. They're Brussels sprouts from Brussels.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

[Todd]

You ever use Monarch Notes? That was another thing. Clip notes were yellow, but there was also a red book called Monarch Notes. They both kind of did the same thing, and they were, like, in competition with each other for some reason. Monarch Notes and clip Notes. So you don't have to read the book when you get the assignment.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd. I wasn't a good student.

[Paulie]

I didn't care enough to actually do the Cliffs Notes.

[Dan Patrick]

I just, like.

[Paulie]

I'll just wing it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I. I wasn't a good student. I waste my money on these, I'm ashamed to admit. Bad student. Whenever I would tell my kids about grades and, you know, studying, and they go, well, you didn't. I said, yeah, I know, but. And you're successful. Yeah, I know, but still. And then I'm like, you know, talk to your mom. Yes.

[Paulie]

That's the worst part of, like, you're talking to your kid about, like, hey, man, you really got to study and do it. Like, trust me.

[Dan Patrick]

All right?

[Paulie]

You really want to.

[Dan Patrick]

Why?

[Paulie]

Why do I have to trust you? Well, because you want your life to work out.

[Dan Patrick]

You're great.

[Paulie]

You want to do, like, whatever. So you're not happy with the way.

[Dan Patrick]

Your life worked out?

[Paulie]

Yeah, no, I am. I'm just saying. So what, you think it could be better? Dude, don't do this to me, all right? I'm just telling you, you got to study.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, all right.

[Paulie]

Don't twist my words.

[Dan Patrick]

Damn kids. Yes, Paul.

[Seton]

Lastly, just on this theme, it's Cliff's notes, Brussels sprouts. Is it Ruth's Chris Steakhouse?

[Dan Patrick]

Ruth.

[Seton]

Ruth, Chris. Is there an apostrophe?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Seton]

That's hard to say.

[Dan Patrick]

I know.

[Seton]

What's the genesis of that?

[Dan Patrick]

I think it's Chris is maybe her son.

[Todd]

Huh?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know.

[Paulie]

I think Ruth took it over from.

[Dan Patrick]

Is it Ruth? Chris? You know what? Let me take a break here. I mean, we're getting into a real, you know, heavy topic.

[Seton]

We're learning, though.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, yes.

[Todd]

Just lose the ego. You have to put Ruth on it. Just if it's Chris's Steakhouse, so you're the owner. But why do you have to get Ruth in there?

[Dan Patrick]

I could be just making that up.

[Todd]

You may be right. It's a terrible name.

[Dan Patrick]

I might be making that.

[Paulie]

Is it like, man, this steakhouse is so Chris.

[Dan Patrick]

No, it's. It's Ruth.

[Paulie]

Yeah, right. Ruth's Steakhouse is like.

[Dan Patrick]

So it's not Ruth. It's Ruth. Chris, let me take a break. Welcome to the program. Just getting started on this Tuesday. We're back after this Dan Patrick show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show. Weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubber lips, blaming me. Well, you know what it's called? Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're going to be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time. It will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough, Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promised and also uncensored by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Over Promising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us Listen to Over Promise with Cavino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Dan Patrick]

This is John Middlekop from Three and out with John Middlekop. Thursday Night Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. This week the Seattle Seahawks face the Arizona Cardinals in an NFC west showdown. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Seahawks and the Cardinals Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com amazonprime for details.

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It's Miller time. What's that mean to you? It can mean a lot of things to a lot of different people. For me, it's the end of the show, end of the week on Friday. Papa Miller Lite. And they've been doing it for 50 years. Cheers to Miller Light. The great taste of light beer. For people who Love beer since 1975, it's a perfect time to celebrate game day with friends and family and great tasting light beer. It's Miller time. It always is cold. You put it in the glass, you take that first sip and you go weekend. It's a taste you can depend on. A great beer trusted by beer lovers for 50 years. Simply put, it just tastes different. It tastes great. 96 calories, just 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Miller Time's always a good time. It's a great time. Iconic. 50 years later. Miller like great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com Patrick. You'll find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. I want to talk to you about your home security just for a minute. I used to think home security was maybe an alarm that went off or maybe you would have really good locks on the door. How about you get a security system that stops crime before it happens? Yeah, proactive, not reactive. It's easy to install. That's the simple part of it. We love it. There's a lot of reasons to love Simplisafe home security. They use AI powered cameras. Simply Safe. They are changing the game. They identify threats, somebody lurking outside your home and immediately alert Simply Safe's professional monitoring agents. They will intervene in real time and they access two way audio to confront the person. Maybe it's a siren that they're going to sound or spotlights to scare them off or even get in touch with the police. It's real security and more than 4 million Americans trust simply Safe with their home security every day. Including me. 60 day money back guarantee, no long term contracts. Simply Safe earns your business keeping you safe and satisfied every single day. Visit SimpliSafe.com Dan to claim 50 off a new system. SimpliSafe.com Dan there's no safe like Simply Safe. Settle on Our poll question, we stumbled upon Ruth's Chris Steakhouse for some reason. And, Oh, I think it's Cliffs Notes instead of Cliff Notes and then Brussels sprouts. So I guess the woman Ruth bought a steakhouse that was called Chris's Steakhouse, and so she just kept the Chris Steakhouse, but it was Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. Is that how the story goes? Yeah.

[Seton]

When she. It was a steakhouse as popular in New Orleans back in, like, 1920s and 30s and 40s, she bought it in 65. A woman named Ruth Fertile. Her advisor said keep the name in some fashion because it already had branding. So when she expanded, it became Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. She actually told Fortune magazine she hated the name, but she was talked into it.

[Dan Patrick]

Were there more Chris Steakhouses?

[Seton]

They wanted to keep him from redoing another steakhouse of the name Chris Steakhouse. Like, control the branding, I guess.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay.

[Seton]

But they got pretty big in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah. I've been there before. They're still around. Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.

[Todd]

A little tough if you have a list for something.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I've been there. Yeah.

[Todd]

That's why I never go there. I'll just get a Swanson Hungry Man Dinner and call it a night.

[Dan Patrick]

See? You'd rather not go there because you don't want to.

[Todd]

I'd love the fancy dinner, but I can't really say the name. If I can't say the name, I'm not going to die.

[Dan Patrick]

Bruce. Chris. Chris. Coming.

[Todd]

Table for two, please.

[Dan Patrick]

Lamar Jackson sacked seven times, matching a career high. He was sacked seven times by the Steelers back in 2021. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes that. What? Stat of the day. Thank you, Ron Burgundy. Keith and Chico leads us off. Good morning, Keith. Welcome back.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. Good morning. I'm just here to give the Lions their credit for last night, starting with the defense. They get seven sacks on Lamar. Obviously, that ties his single game record, which he just pointed out. So very impressive there. Aiden Hutchinson makes his return. He gets a second. Forces a fumble in the second half. They really needed him back, and you can see how it helped everyone else on the defense. Offensive line for Detroit played great to over 200 yards on the ground, four rushing touchdowns, all while golf gets sacked zero times. Good job to the O line. Lamar getting his kneecaps bitten off with the Lions getting constant pressure on him. He seemed to be a little indecisive in the pocket as the game went on. I thought he could have avoided some sacks had he chose to run sooner in his progressions. Also, Derek Henry losing that fumble, costing his team a late game possession again. He's got to call Tiki Barber and get that thing high and tight. Thanks, guys. Have a great day.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Keith. Do we think Keith was reading that?

[Todd]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seton]

I think he may have been reading that.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Paulie]

It was. I appreciate him trying to stay on topic and be precise.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, he was organized and well prepared. He was like an analyst there.

[Paulie]

He kept it high and tight.

[Dan Patrick]

Let's see James in Virginia. Hi, James.

[Caller]

Good morning, brother. Happy Tuesday. DP Dan X. Salute the commanders, man. Wow. If there's one thing I think the Baltimore Ravens are missing is another elite receiver. Andrews is great. We can't continue to lead the team in receptions and yards. Only five catches from the top wide receiver, Bateman. They need someone that can take it over the top. I don't know what's gonna happen in Miami, man, but I think Tyreek Hill can really help that offense. As far as the pumblings go, that last one came from behind. He didn't really see it. Does have to hold it tighter, but he's one of the best in the game. I trust Derrick Henry all the way. I think the ratings don't make the playoffs. Without a doubt, man. I don't see any reason why not. But if they can add a playmaking receiver to go along with Dave Flowers and Bateman. Game changer, man. Y' all have a great day, gentlemen. I definitely wasn't reading it.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, James. Thank you. We get people breaking this game down here. I like it. I think the Steelers have backed off interest in Tyreek Hill, at least from what I've read. But that doesn't mean it won't heat up again, because I think it will. If Dolphins lose a couple more, then all of a sudden you gotta really. That's where you have to be honest with your team. And be honest as early as you can. So you start preparing for next season, you know who's gonna be here, who's not. Is there anything we can do to better ourself for next year? And you don't want to say that. You don't want to say it after three games or four games. But sometimes reality sets in and you can't avoid it. Richard in Indianapolis. Hi, Richard. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

ADP sticks one bought a pork tenderland sandwich away from three Bills. Hey, Dan, I just wanted to ask really quickly what your thoughts on the willingness of pundits to move the goal post for some teams. For example, you know, Indiana beats up on Illinois, and, well, Illinois is probably just a bad team, and Syracuse goes down to Clemson, and Clemson's got a real problem. Well, Syracuse might have a really good team, and Notre Dame beats Purdue, lets them score 30 at home, and somehow they're on their way to the College Football Playoff, and this is their redemption. And I just wonder how we can just shift these narratives because of the name on the front of the jersey.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I think, and this is my observation is you will have a lot of analysts, a lot of opinions, and not very many people are watching games. They're watching highlights, and there's a lot of college football to watch. And I watched Indiana, but I was given a heads up that this is a really fun, explosive offense. And that was a week ago. And so I'm watching this game with Illinois, and Illinois likes to run the football. But that's. I mean, I've. I'm a Heisman voter and I do watch a lot of football, and I watch a lot of random football as well. But I think you get people who have opinions and they're based in tradition. Maybe Syracuse does have a really good team. I mean, they struggle to beat UConn, but you win against Clemson, that's saying something. Oklahoma State's not good. Are they that bad that Oregon blows him out by 60? Maybe. I don't know how good USC is. I've watched, but I don't know how good they are. They got Illinois coming up. I mean, we're going to find out if Illinois should have been in the top 25 to begin with. Yes.

[Paulie]

Eden, it's kind of like. It reminds me of. Why would we give the Chiefs the benefit of the doubt but not the Ravens? Because the Chiefs have been there, they've done it. They've shown that they're an absolute powerhouse who know how to sort of get over the top of that hill, where that's. The Ravens haven't. Certainly haven't won in a while.

[Dan Patrick]

Proof of concept.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

So, you know, a team that sort of bubbles up like Syracuse, all of a sudden, they don't get the same benefit of the doubt as a Clemson.

[Dan Patrick]

But Indiana should get the benefit of the doubt because last year they were in the playoffs. And I remember somebody saying to me, who's this year's Indiana? And then I said after the Illinois game, indiana is this year's Indiana. Yes.

[Paulie]

Is one year good enough to get you over that, get you that benefit of the Doubt.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know that it is recency bias. Yes. Because Indiana was good last year. If the team is good last year, then I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because I'm assuming that you still have your coaching core and maybe your star players. It's when you lose your quarterback or wide, you know, those kind of your star players, then I'm not going to give it to you on name alone now. Notre Dame. Notre Dame. I expect to run the table. Defense is the issue. And that's where I'm wondering if the head coach all of a sudden takes over the defense. But they do have some offensive, you know, really explosive players, some fun players. They, they just, I mean, they lost two tough games. Miami's the number two team in the country. Texas A and M is the top 10 team. I have to be fair to that, that Notre Dame lost two tough games. Shouldn't have lost the A and M game. Miami was the better team.

[Seton]

Yeah, Paulie, I think it takes like what Seton was saying sometimes years to get that stigma of they're not really a serious college football school. You go back a generation to Boise State. They had to win 11 games a couple times. Then we put them in the big dance. And Indiana, they had Michael Pennix a few years ago. They, they've been relevant now for five or six years, up and down, but it takes a while to shake off that. Well, that's a cute story, but they're not a big boy yet.

[Dan Patrick]

And I think Boise State. Does Boise State have the second most wins since 2000 in college football? I don't know. Once again, random stat, but for some reason I thought they had the second most wins since 2000. Yes, Paulie.

[Seton]

Yeah, that would probably be right. I would, I would have to check it, but looking at that, they average about 11 wins a year for the past 20 years. Yeah, I bet Gonzaga's the number one for college basketball.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. But we, we do tend to look at the cute store. Like Gonzaga is a powerhouse, but we tend to look at them and they go, man, look at that mid major. Look at that little team there. You got some guys who can play a little bit there. I mean, Chad Holmgren went there for a year. They've had guys go to the NBA. Yeah, Marvin.

[Todd]

But they needed to do it on a consistent basis for about 10 years until we took them serious. And they could get guys like a Chet Holmgren to come to Gonzaga.

[Dan Patrick]

Let's see, what else do we have here? Mikey in Syracuse. Hi, Mikey. What's on your mind.

[Caller]

My good buddy Dan Patrick.

[Dan Patrick]

How are you, my friend? Good, good. Mike.

[Caller]

Third time caller, longtime listener officially weighing in 59175. Thank you. Thank you. Michael Jordan, the goal of basketball came out of retirement. Tom Brady, the goat of football kind of came out of retirement. Dan Patrick, coming out of retirement. Let's say the mothership or another big.

[Dan Patrick]

Nope, nope, nope. I haven't retired yet to come back. But no, I, I've had opportunities, I've had opportunities with other places, but I, I don't want to do TV on a full time basis. I just want to do this show. But I've had opportunities, game shows, hosting things, and this is what I want to do. But I still have two and a half years left before I announce my comeback. Oh, Todd's really interested now.

[Todd]

No, I wanted to just add, you can never say never about anything in life. You can't say 100%. Never. When you wrap things up in February, 2028 or whatever, if there's some special opportunity, may not be full time, maybe it's some kind of cool part time thing. Well, I can do that once a month. I can do that.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, that's not really a comeback because I'm still going to be doing things. I'm just not going to do something Monday through Friday.

[Todd]

Yeah, but most people think retirement is, I'm sitting on a hammock with chips and a, in a Mountain Dew and I'm going to go travel the world and I'm not working at all.

[Dan Patrick]

But that's what you, that's what I consider retirement.

[Todd]

Retiring and dabbling in stuff. I guess, you know, that's like hobbies, like learning how to put a guitar or something.

[Dan Patrick]

I can, could you imagine me doing that?

[Todd]

Definitely not.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I can't. Yeah, I, I'll be doing something. I'm just, I, you know, the, the daily routine. I'm gonna give that up. I've been selfish for a long time. When you think about it, it's been about my career with my family and, you know, I promised my wife I'd be like one of these days, you know, I'll be around.

[Seton]

Well, you'll be home for like three weeks and she'll be like you working anytime soon.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Be careful what you ask. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, I think you're too hard on yourself because our employers can be selfish too and give you guilt trips. Can you do this shift? Can you do that shift? But it's my kid's birthday. Yeah, we really need you Someone called and sick and. Right. There was a period of time where you felt like you had to say yes to everything. I did always be available and miss family thing.

[Dan Patrick]

I did. I did. Absolutely. I missed a lot of different things. I was being selfish. Yes.

[Seton]

Paulie, I have an idea for your post retirement job. Would you like it now or later off the air?

[Dan Patrick]

Like later, Two and a half years or today?

[Seton]

I could save for two and a half years or I could do it all.

[Dan Patrick]

No, you could do it right now.

[Seton]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seton]

I look at what you do and have done very similar to what David Letterman did and over his career, a lot of work, multiple days a week. It's a grind of a daily show. I could see you very much doing what David Letterman did and doing a focused interview show with athletes and others after your career here is done. I think that would keep your appetite for asking questions and inter doing interviews, interviewing older people, newer people, and if you do like 15 episodes a year, I think that'd be a really good role.

[Dan Patrick]

It's been done.

[Seton]

It's been done, but it's been done. Like, like Bob Costas did it 13, 14 years ago.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seton]

There's a whole new generation of athletes to sit with.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think people find people that interesting anymore from the standpoint of watching them do an interview with somebody.

[Seton]

I think there's a hole in the industry to have a show like, but.

[Dan Patrick]

Everybody has a podcast. Like everybody has their own, their opinions out there. It just feels like celebrities are so much more readily available. And I don't know if you can do something that's unique, something different.

[Seton]

But if you remember, and I'm dating myself here, but when Larry King Live was a nightly show, you look forward to seeing who he's going to have, who he's going to do a deep dive on. And there's not a lot of deep dives anymore.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but there's so many shows and podcasts now. I just don't know if there's any, you know, who's interesting, who hasn't been interviewed or doesn't allow people to interview. Yeah, see?

[Paulie]

Yeah. I think, respectfully, I think you're looking at this completely wrong in that you're known as one of the best interviewers in the business. So the point is you're interviewing them, not necessarily who you're interviewing.

[Dan Patrick]

Exactly.

[Paulie]

So that's why, like, that's why to me, interviews on this show has always been so important because you're the best interviewer in the business. So we need to interview People, that's. It's our greatest strength on this show is you as an interviewer. That's what people would be tuning into. It's almost like when somebody has someone on a show, you're like, oh, this person must be interesting because they're having them on. Not this person makes that show interesting.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, I appreciate the compliment.

[Todd]

Yes, Todd, I was very drawn, but also dating myself. Sports look, which became Up Close with Roy Firestone. That was a show where they didn't just do X's and O's, they really dove into the person, the human being that made them tick. And that's like a perfect kind of thing for you where you love to talk about things that have nothing to do with, you know, what did you do there on third and eight? It's like, you know, what makes this person tick as a human being? That's the fascinating stuff.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, though. Yeah, well, I got two and a half years figured that out. Maybe I just go full time actor. Oh, yeah. Maybe just full time la. No, that. No. And I might do some theater summer stock. I'm gonna do awful Broadway. You know, it's not off.

[Seton]

Extremely.

[Dan Patrick]

It's awful Broadway. Yeah, I like it. Maybe I'll do that. I don't know. Let's take a break here. Okay.

[Seton]

We covered a lot there.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, we did. We did. Marvin, you're a great interviewer.

[Todd]

Everyone's complimenting you. So I should have jumped into arguably.

[Dan Patrick]

The best you are. You're kind of tough on compliments there, you know, you just don't give them out.

[Paulie]

And it just basically stole my compliment and regurgitated it. Which is.

[Dan Patrick]

That is true. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Hijacked, kind of stealing my material.

[Todd]

I'm really sorry, guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Okay, how about we take a break here and when we come back, phone calls and the play of the day. After this, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Todd]

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[Dan Patrick]

This is John Middlekop from Three and out with John Middlekop. Thursday Night Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. This week the Seattle Seahawks face the Arizona Cardinals in an NFC west showdown. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Seahawks and the Cardinals Thursday at 7pm Eastern, only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details.

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[Caller]

Cuts to the right at the 15.

[Dan Patrick]

Down to the 10, down to the.

[Caller]

5, to the end zone. Touchdown. Detroit Lions demo to the house 31.

[Dan Patrick]

Yds and the Lions have put this game on ice. Demo. That's the ticket. Lions Radio Network. That's your play of the day, brought to you by Rapid Radio's official walkie talkie of the DP show. Push to talk service with national LTE coverage. That means no subscriptions ever. Get them before bad weather occurs. Visit rapidradios.com up to 60% off free shipping. Let's see, I mentioned this random stat. I thought Boise State had the second most wins since 2000 in college football. Turns out they are third on the list. So it's Ohio State, Oklahoma, and then it's Boise State and Alabama have the same number of wins. Georgia and Clemson. This is the start of the day. David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan, I've got a theory as to why. Why Travis Kelsey and Andy Reid. They've had some recent beef. Maybe Travis and Taylor aren't inviting them to the wedding there. So.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right. Well, thank you, David. I would say Andy's going to get invited. I think that's their relationship because Andy Reid is the one who initiated contact with Travis Kelce this time. I think the last time it was Travis who maybe initiated some contact there. Yes, Paulie.

[Seton]

Yeah, the more you, that doesn't seem like a big deal because it seems like something that's somewhat commonplace with those two guys and they could both get away with it. If this were like a new coach with a young quarterback, that would be an issue.

[Dan Patrick]

David in Florida. Hi, David. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hello, this is Dave in Tarpon Springs, Florida. First I'm a long time listener since day one. First time caller six, four three two eight. Second Detroit Lions, I think are going to be a Super bowl contender this year. I was going to say the super bowl representative, but I would belie my loyalty to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who I think are going to play Detroit for the chance to go to the Super Bowl. But I think after last night, I don't think there's anybody close to them. I think Green Bay is close, but I think. I think Detroit's the answer.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you know, we do this with recency bias now. I have the Lions winning the super bowl, but after I. What Green Bay did to them, you know, makes you pause for a moment because you lose your coordinators, and then all of a sudden you're going, okay, not easy to replace those two coordinators. And Jared Goff is, you know, going to be affected by this. They still have a lot of talent on that team, skill position. We've seen this before. We've seen it the last couple of years. I expect them to be a really good regular season team. I want to see what you do in the postseason. It's the same thing with Lamar and the Ravens. You can talk about Lamar. Steve Young said yesterday he thinks Lamar could turn out to be the greatest player ever played the game. You got to have rings, you could have MVPs. But you know what MVPs bring? The question of why didn't you win Super Bowls? Why didn't you win more Super Bowls? Aaron Rodgers won one, Peyton Manning won one and a half. They want all those MVPs. You know, for Tom Brady, it wasn't about an MVP. There's regular season stats, and then there's postseason stats. And, yeah, I hope Lamar figures it out. I hope he gets that opportunity to play in a Super Bowl. And the same with Josh Allen. I would hate for you to have a career where you're that decorated, you're that highly thought of, and then you're going to be asked the inevitable question, why didn't you get. Win a Super Bowl? Why didn't you get to a Super Bowl? It's not all on the quarterback, but then sometimes it is. And maybe I should have put Tampa in there with these other teams. When you look at the best teams in the nfc, Tampa's a good team, maybe a really good team playing a bad division. And you got to factor that in. You know, some of these teams going through the regular season, whether it's in their own division or, you know, when they're playing Kansas City or you're playing Buffalo, you're playing Baltimore, you know that this takes a toll on you. And you might end up with 11 wins. You might be more Battle tested than a team that's going through a bad division. I mean, somebody's going to win the AFC south, right? I don't know how good they are, but somebody's going to win that. I don't think the NFC south is that good. Tampa Bay could put up 12 wins, 13 wins. Now all of a sudden, they got home field advantage. I don't know if they're better than Detroit, but they might be in a better situation than Detroit. And that's really what this is all about. Stay healthy. Win the games you're supposed to win. Shane in Massachusetts. Hi, shane.

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. 5, 8, 180. I'm sitting here with my newborn daughter. I've been a huge fan for about, like, six years now. I had a huge question. You know, with all these different wins over the weekend, I'm still a huge Eagle favorite, but if you had to take a. If you were a betting man, who would you be your favorites of NFC and afc?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I. I'm not going to change. And congratulations on the baby. I mean, I just sort of did that where I still believe in Kansas City. Proof of concept. And I believe in the Lions as well. But when I was making my super bowl pick, I really like the Rams. I like them a lot. Front office coaching staff, quarterback skill position, defense. I really like them. But you got to get over the Eagles, hump the Eagles. It'd be hard to go against them. I don't think they played great. The Lions, you know, they're in there. Tampa Bay. A lot of people like Tampa Bay. Yes. Marvin.

[Todd]

If the Chiefs go to the super bowl again, Patrick Mahomes is going to be in the Michael Jordan category. Because you're going to say Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson didn't go as far as they needed to because of Patrick Mahomes. That's going to. What's going to end up happening.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, Mahomes would be Maybe in the LeBron category because Mike didn't lose championships. LeBron has lost championships. Mahomes has lost the Super Bowl a couple of times.

[Todd]

Oh, I was just saying, as far as other great players not getting to the championship.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, okay. But I think he might be more LeBron. Like, he'd have to. If he went and lost another one, then all of a sudden, you know, we start to look at him. Maybe LeBron like. Right. Because Michael never lost Mike, of course he didn't. Never missed a shot either.

[Todd]

I didn't see any misses.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd]

Nobody.

[Dan Patrick]

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