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Booger McFarland
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Dan Patrick
Are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. We made it to a Wednesday. It's hour one on the program Gangs all here ready to go. Starting five is Fritzy Seaton, Marv Paulie, yours truly and of course the back room guys coming off the bench. Booger McFarland of the Mothership will stop by in a little bit. We got some college football to talk about. Oklahoma State fires Mike Gundy. Oklahoma needs a new quarterback. John Matier, the leading candidate or one of the leading candidates for the Heisman, out for probably a month with hand surgery. Dan Hurley, UConn basketball coach. He's got a memoir written, a memoir. And he's in his early 50s. Maybe this is part one of his memoirs. Maybe you'll have a couple of them. He'll join us a little bit later on 8773-DP-SHOW email address dp dan patrick.com Twitter handle @tpshow Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app. We say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country this first hour brought to you by Rapid Radios, the official walkie talkie of the show. Push to talk nationwide LTE coverage. That means no subscriptions ever. Business owners, stay connected with your employees anywhere. Visit rapidradios.com for up to 60 off free shipping. STAT of the day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the DP show. And the merchandise store is open for business, stocked up with new gear@danpatrick.com Play of the Day poll questions Stat of the Day all of that forthcoming. I mentioned some of the football headlines. The Tigers continue to collapse. They've dropped nine of 10. The Guardians have won nine of 10. Therefore, we have a tie at top. The American League Central Baseball is going to RoboBo umpires in 20, 26 or at least a little bit. Now we know where this is going, but this is where they just say, man, we're going to try it out for a little bit here. But they've been testing this for a few years now in the minor leagues. But as it stands now, there will be limited challenges for balls and strikes. And let me give you a little bit of the information here. Hitters, pitchers and catchers will be the only ones allowed to trigger this system. They tap their head and then the challenge is on. The pitch will be shown on in stadium scoreboards and then teams will be able to retain, if they're correct with that, their challenge. So kind of like with tennis where they show you if the ball is in or out. Now they're just getting started with this, but it's called the ABS system, Automated balls and strikes. But they do this in tennis. They have 12 cameras in each ballpark tracking the ball. Margin of error is 1/6 of an inch. So the, the zone will be two dimensional plane here. But there's a couple other things that I found interesting with this and we've talked about this before. It's, it's going to be taking over baseball that if you want to get the balls and strikes correct, then just have it. You still have to have an umpire. There's not going to be a robot out there. I think everybody thinks like, you know that Fox football robots out there. It's not going to be a robot. It's going to be automated balls and strikes.
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Todd
Yes, Todd, that's exactly what I thought it was. Why do they call it robots? Like, you're entitled to your opinion, but that was a strike.
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Dan Patrick
Thank you, Todd. So adding robot. See, I don't even like robot umpires. They don't call them robot umpires in tennis, do they? It's just a challenge system. But the umps will be also cutting down on ejections. Because I was curious, the percentage of ejections in Major League Baseball among players and managers and coaches. 60. Almost 62% of the time were related to balls and strikes. Okay, so they're going to cut down on that. You'll cut down on ejections here for derogatory comments there. And in case you're wondering, umpires, according to the ump scorecards, they, they're right 94% of the time on pitches 94% of the time. But you're going to have two challenges and it has to be immediate because you can't wait for somebody to look at a replay in the dugout. It has to be with the catcher, the batter or the pitcher. If the, if the goal is to get it right and you have the technology to get it right, then use it. But I, baseball wants to speed up the game. I get that. And they done it. You know, the pitch clock is great. The runner on second base to start extra innings is embarrassing. But, you know, they add bigger bags, so there's more stolen bases. Okay. They want more offense, they want more movement. All right, we, we've accomplished that. This, I, I still think, you know, it, it's entertainment. You're presenting something. So now I can show you something on the Jumbotron and you could see did they get the call right or not? Just like in tennis, I think it's going to be part of the fabric of the game. They're going to dip their toe in it. And I think by 2030, this is how baseball is going to be called. You'll, you'll still have the umpires. You will just have somebody up above who will then say to the umpire that, you know, it's a ball or it's a strike. Now you're going to have somebody up above managing the game. The umpires will just be the mouthpiece to say if it's a ball or strike or they might not even say anything. They may just show it up on the screen. But this is where we're headed. I'm, I'm okay with it. You know, I, I've watched enough games where I watch an umpire and I go, what, what game is he calling? Like there are, there are brutal calls and you know, these umpires are human. There's umpires who hold a grudge. They do. There's umpires who are very friendly to certain pitchers or they're just pitcher friendly strike zones or the other way around. And this will take away that as well. And how many times do you watch a game? We get center field camera. It's not really center field because it's not directly behind the picture. But we look at it, we go, that's a strike. But if, if the camera was over right behind the picture, you'd realize that it wasn't. So sometimes it's an optical illusion, but we are headed towards the automated balls and strikes. And baseball is trying now. Baseball didn't change at all. You know, all these different leagues, they're always trying to implement something new. Baseball didn't change for centuries. And then all of a sudden here they are at the forefront, they're trying everything, anything. And I think it's just this Commissioner is going to leave his mark on this game in a variety of ways. Whether we're going to say he was a great commissioner or not. I think he has improved the game. But it says get rid of the runner at second base to start the 10th inning. Come on. That's something you do in Little League just so you can get the kids home. So you know, Savannah Bananas doesn't even do that silly stuff. Yes. Yes.
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Todd
Todd, do you like the tapping on the head for the challenge? How about like the red challenge flag in your back pocket? Drop it on home plate or throw it towards the pitchers mound if you want to try to get some more.
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Dan Patrick
No, I don't want you carrying a flag up there.
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Todd
There's a little handkerchief in your back pocket.
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Dan Patrick
No, no. Then somebody's going to go, oh, damn, where's my. I don't have my hanky. I'm sorry.
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Todd
What if someone's just adjusting their helmet and they take that as a challenge? No, I was just kind of tapping my helmet.
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Dan Patrick
I had an itch. What if you accidentally drop the hanky?
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Todd
That's a valid point.
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Dan Patrick
Thank you, Todd. Yes, Pauline?
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Marvin
I was reading Jeff Passon's article And there's only four players on this 11 person committee that voted on this and developed it. He said a couple of those players voted against it. I wonder if the players don't like this because it takes away their skill in gamesmanship of dealing with a tighter strike zone or expanded strike zone. If you're Paul Goldschmidt, you're like, okay, this hump is going low. That helps me. I could, I could work that. I think it hurts the player, the talented player.
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Dan Patrick
I think it hurts the pitcher.
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Marvin
That too. I think it absolutely hurts.
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Dan Patrick
I don't think it hurts a hitter. A hitter once. Just call it so I know what the strike zone is.
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Marvin
Yeah, it hurts both players. I agree.
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Dan Patrick
It, you know, pitchers get so much leeway. You know, you'll be like, yep. And then you go, are you kidding me? It feels like more hitters get upset with calls than pitchers get upset. Yes.
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Paulie
I think if I was a catcher, I would be more upset than anybody because that's sort of. That the, the art of framing a pitch to get a call would be completely removed by this.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah.
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Todd
Todd, why was that ever okay in baseball? Strike is a strike and a ball is a ball. Why is it, oh, this ump calls strikes a certain way and one calls it the other way. If they did that in football, that'd be ridiculous. Oh, he doesn't Call holding that one. Oh, you could do past interference all you want. That guy does very little.
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Dan Patrick
They do that. They. They do that in the NFL.
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Todd
It's ridiculous. A call is a call. I don't understand. Oh, that's. Joe west calls it like that. So get used to it. You can throw it high and they'll call it a strike.
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Dan Patrick
Well, but this is where I wonder, you know, with the umpires that they have all these. You're graded after each game. But you would think at some point you would say, you know, hey, Tommy, you're calling way too many holding penalties, or, hey, you're not calling enough pass interference. I. I would think that they would have, you know, checks and balances with that. But you're right about catchers. You know, the art of framing a pitch. But if you can get the call right and, you know, we're fine with it in tennis, and those guys complain about everything in tennis. So get the call right. It can still be entertaining. You can put it up on the jumbotron and everybody can play the game. Play along. Yes.
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Paulie
That's the thing that drives me crazy about this. You put in the system where you can get the call right twice. Well, if you're going to put in the system to get the calls right, just do the whole thing.
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Dan Patrick
Well, if you continue to get the call, though, then you get to continue to keep your challenges.
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Paulie
Yeah, but still. Okay, so then you get it wrong two times, and then the third time, well, now I can't charge it. And it's obviously a strike or a ball. Well, now I can't because I used them the other times. What, what's important? Getting the call right or using your tapping your helmet times. Enough times. Right.
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Dan Patrick
I just. Stupid baseball wants to try this out. So it's not one of those where you go to a game and go, wait a minute, what's going on here? It's just want to let you know this is coming, but this is what it's going to look like and feel like for everybody. Even with the pitch clock, Everybody hated it. Oh, what are you doing? Baseball's timeless, you know, you should be able to pitch when you want to pitch or get in the batter's box or any of that nonsense. And then all of a sudden it's like, wait a minute, they're going to wear a wristband. Wait a minute. Now we don't even talk about it now. It's just part of the game. And I think that's what these commissioners want. It's just. You don't like the kickoff. Like. Okay. We don't. Aesthetically, it looks weird, but we're okay. We're getting. We're getting kickoff returns. Hey, that's great. Yeah. Paulie.
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Marvin
According to this new rule, teams that run out of challenges over the first nine innings will get an extra one in the 10th and so on. So if you use yours in the 10th and the game goes to the 11th, you get one in the 11th. That's pretty smart of MLB to anticipate that issue, because imagine if, you know, World Series, Game four, and you're out of challenges.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Paulie
And you start the runner on second.
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Dan Patrick
And then you challenge the thing that.
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Paulie
Forces them into the.
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Marvin
Could we have a. A playoff series that ends on a strikeout? And they ask for a replay as the guys are running onto the field like the 28. Three?
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Dan Patrick
That. That would be a walk. Yeah. Yeah. I could see where you would have something like that, but. Okay. At least they're trying. At least they're looking, exploring. And I'm. I'm. I don't like change. For change sake. I. If you're going to do it, then do it. But you're kind of doing it now. This is next season. They're kind of doing it next season. All right, Satan, poll question today for the first hour.
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Paulie
I think we should start with robo umps.
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Dan Patrick
See, they got to get rid of that term. That's what scares people.
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Marvin
It's like meatloaf. It's a distasteful term. Remember we talked about how meatloaf is like, if it had a better term, people would enjoy it more. Robot umps gives you the feeling like the old guys are going away and being fired.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Like, are you gonna have machines out there? Is this going to be AI. No. No, it's not. It's just like tennis.
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Booger McFarland
That's it.
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Dan Patrick
You're still going to have your linesmen, your umpires. You're going to have everybody there. And baseball has to have umpires on each base. You have to be able to call somebody out or safe, you know? So that's why you're still going to have that. You're not having robo umpires. Yes.
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Paulie
It's a little bit like the. The tennis judge is a little bit like, respectfully, Alec Trebek.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Paulie
In that the. The tennis judge has a computer telling them all of the information. They know the right answer because that thing gave them the right answer. And they can sit up there and be like, no, I know what it is. This is the right one. When you have all the answers.
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Dan Patrick
It's easy to. Yeah.
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Paulie
Azerbaijan. I'm sorry, no.
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Marvin
Nice cop.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Paulie
Because I'm just looking at the computer screen and it's telling me if it was in or out.
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Dan Patrick
Where is Mesopotamia? No, sorry.
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Paulie
No, I'm sorry. That's too uncommon.
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Dan Patrick
Yes, Todd.
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Todd
So why now all of a sudden? I know the technology has gotten better. All of a sudden they want to make sure the calls are right. Usually things in sports are decided upon based on viewership and attendance. This isn't going to necessarily make the game more exciting or compelling. You more likely to go to a game or watch a game because there's challenges on a ball or a strike and it's the antithesis of trying to speed up the game as well, which is what they keep wanting.
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Dan Patrick
How many games have you gone to this year?
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Todd
I have gone to, I think, zero games.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, you think?
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Todd
Quite. I'm trying to. Try to remember if I went in the beginning of the year, but I don't think I did.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Todd
I have not gone to a game.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Todd
But I don't think anybody, even a big sport fan, is going to be.
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Dan Patrick
But you can't go to less games than you went to.
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Todd
Right. But what I'm saying, I'm talking about the average fan is not going to watch more baseball, go to more baseball because they are making an extra effort to get it right. It's all about the dollars.
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Dan Patrick
I don't think they're trying to get you to go to the game because you get to see a ball or strike called on the jumbotron.
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Todd
So it's just we have this extra technology. We might as well use it and get the calls right.
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Dan Patrick
Yes.
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Todd
It's that simple. I always think there's a devious, you know, backdrop.
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Dan Patrick
I know you do.
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Todd
The owners in the league is like, what can we do to finagle an extra buck or something or get people more interested, which. And this is not an example of getting more interested in the game.
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Dan Patrick
No, I don't think this improves attendance. I think they're trying to improve the quality of the umpires and the game experience that you want to make sure that they're getting calls correct. That's all. Yes.
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Paulie
But we're only going to make sure we get them correct. If you challenge us to do it.
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Dan Patrick
I know I'm going to tap my helmet at the appropriate moment.
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Paulie
As long as you haven't tapped your helmet too many times, then you can challenge us to make sure we get the call right. Other than that, we just say whatever it is.
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Dan Patrick
How about we take a break? All right. Take a break.
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Todd
Yes.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Leave it to you to go.
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Todd
Need it to be said, and after a couple of calls, you can't challenge anymore.
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Paulie
You asked us to get it right too many times, so now we're not.
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Todd
Going to get it right.
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Paulie
We're going to do whatever we want.
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Dan Patrick
We're turning off our robo umpires, but leave it to you to go, oh, there's got to be some nefarious reason.
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Todd
That's what it is.
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Dan Patrick
It's all sneaky. Hey, come on, kids, we're gonna go watch robo umpires. We're going to the game.
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Todd
There was a conversation behind closed doors with the league and the owner's like, here's what we're going to do. We're gonn like we care about balls.
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Dan Patrick
We're going to take a break. Booger McFarland will join us coming up next year on the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern.
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Booger McFarland
But here's the thing.
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Dan Patrick
We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to.
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Covino
And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, you blubber lips, blaming me. Well, you know what it's called? Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been overpromising women for years.
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Covino
Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're going to be talking sports, of course, but we're also going to talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised.
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Dan Patrick
Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich and make sure you check out Over Promise and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's going to be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go.
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Covino
Over promising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Middelkoff
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Todd
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Booger McFarland
Wow. Most important. Probably The Georgia, Alabama game. I. I think when you look at that game, DP I. I think, you know, Georgia, we kind of forgot about them a little bit until they had the big win at Tennessee. Alabama, we kind of wrote them off after they lost to Florida State. Both teams have kind of bounced back a little bit, and now they face each other. And Kirby Smart, for everything he's done on the collegiate level, I think he's one in six against Alabama. Now, a lot of that had to do with Nick Saban, and Nick Saban is gone, but he lost to Caleb last year, so I think that's the biggest game this weekend. And probably number two would be LSU going to Ole Miss, because I think we find out a lot about both of those teams to see if they're both for real from a national championship standpoint.
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Dan Patrick
But if Kaylin DeBoer in Alabama beat Georgia, that takes a whole lot of heat off.
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Booger McFarland
Kaylin DeBoer not only takes heat off of my. I think it clearly puts him in a position where he cannot be judged going forward because he would have been two and all against Kirby. And that's something that I think if you're an Alabama faithful, if you can beat Georgia, then you can beat anybody in the country. And so for him to win that game two years in a row, I think really makes not only him feel good, you also got to think like, his wife and his kids, they gotta. They gotta live in Tuscaloosa. And so I think the entire family will feel a little bit more stable and could kind of live their life in Tuscaloosa. But you lose that game now, you got two losses. As the. As. As the calendar turns to October, and I think the heat gets back turned.
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Dan Patrick
Up, it feels like Brian Kelly is not secure at lsu, or at least I always get that feeling that it's like, yeah, but he's got to win some of these games here. Like, this is. Feels like a really important game for Brian Kelly. You would know better than anybody how secure is he in that job at lsu?
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Booger McFarland
I think he's very secure because I know what the. I know what the bout is like, and the bout is substantially large. And unless you're Texas A and M who wants to spend $75 million buying out a coach, then I think BK realizes, and I think everybody in college football realizes that there's a difference between the heat being turned up because the natives are restless, and then there's also a difference to heats being turned up and you may get fired. I think BK feels the heat because every coach who preceded him has won a national championship. Saban, Les Miles, Ed Ogeron, they all won national championships in the first three or four years. And this is year four for bk. So he feels that he. And regardless whether LSU wins this game or loses this game, the heat is still going to be there until the ring has been secured. And so he understands that. He knows it. He's heard it from me. He's heard from a lot of people what the expectations are. I think this is the best defense that he's had. The offense is not, for whatever reason, clicking on all, all cylinders. So it should be a good test in Oxford on Saturday.
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Dan Patrick
Mike Gundy and Dabo Sweeney didn't forget how to coach. What happened.
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Booger McFarland
I think Mike Gundy got caught in a situation where he didn't evolve with the times. And when you don't evolve, you get left behind. I think Dabo is in a situation that's a little bit different because Dabo did start to evolve. He went into the transfer portal. His best defensive player came from Purdue out of the transfer portal. You know, it's kind of a weird thing up there. Dp they got a ton of talent. Like, talent is not the issue. And so here's what I always go back to. When you have a coach that's been successful and you have a team that has a ton of talent, but that team is not winning, I always go back to this. There's a disconnection between this team and the coach, and you wonder how that could happen. But at a certain point, the message starts falling on deaf ears. Like the coach can be the same and the team can have been in the program, but the team is not hearing the message for whatever reason. I think that's the case up in Clemson, man. They got probably five or six guys that are going to be drafted in the first two rounds. So how can a team that talented be one in three? Somehow the there's a disconnect between the coaches and the players. And on top of that, I'll go one step further. I don't think Dabo has hired the greatest coaches to run his offense and defense since he's in the last few years. Like, he's got Gary Riley running, running the offense, he's got Tom Allen running the defense. There's a disconnect there also, because when talent and the coaching staff don't connect, I think what you get is you get one in three.
- [30:13]
Dan Patrick
Booger McFarland, ESPN NFL college football analyst, a studio analyst on ABC. And you can also see him on NFL Prime Time with Chris Berman on ESPN Plus. More concerns about the Ravens or the Chiefs?
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Booger McFarland
Kansas City, Because I think when you look at Kansas City, they've won with their defense the last few years and the defense is still pretty good. But at a certain point we always knew the offense would come and Patrick would come and, and, and Travis would come. But like the best parts of their team are not performing. Kelsey's not performing. Trey Smith, the right guard is not performing. You say, well, what, what the hell does the right guard mean? It's really simple. It means protection for the quarterback and opening holes in the run game where they're not doing either. I understand Rasheed Rice is out with a suspension. You're trying to figure out when Xavier Worthy is going to come back. So at a certain point I think they're going to get their weapons back. But if they lose this game, they're 1 and 3. I think Baltimore wins the game and they're 1 and 3 and at a certain point the hole is too, too big. And I get very concerned when the team is revolving around one guy. And it seems to me that if Patrick doesn't make courageous plays, like they don't move the ball. And so it's no longer a team, it's turned into a one man show. And I don't care who you are, one man shows don't survive in the NFL. It's too many grown men, it's too many great players. You have to have a team and right now their team is not as good as he's been. For those reasons I listed, I was.
- [31:47]
Dan Patrick
Wondering if the Giants, I, I knew they would go to Jackson Dart eventually. But do you start him at home against a better team in the Chargers or on the road against an inferior team, the Saints?
- [31:58]
Booger McFarland
You know, it amazes me, like, why does everybody always try to be concerned and try to pick the pick the place that he starts at dp like he's a, he's a professional football player. Take the band aid off. Like, this is not Ole Miss, this is not Syracuse. Like we're not playing for the Peach bowl, we're playing for the Super Bowl. Take the band aid off, let him go play. And if he fails, great, turn the tape on, coach him up and send it back out there. Like at a certain point we have to stop trying to hand pick a moment for success. We almost treat these guys like our kids. You know, I want my child to be successful. So you try to put them in a spot where they can have success early. So they can get confidence. I get that. But at a certain point, don't you want your kid to kind of fall and kind of scratch themselves up a little bit? Like, I don't want them to bust ahead of them, but, but I do want them to fall so they can kind of grow and learn. I think you have to treat the quarterback the same way. Is, is he going to struggle against San Diego or Los Angeles? Absolutely. He might get his head beat in, but he'll be better for it the next day. He may struggle against the Saints. He'll be better for it the next day. The only way you can teach a guy or, or a player can learn something. I truly believe you learn more through failure than you do through success. So I want him to fail soon. So shame on you for trying to hand pick where you put him at. Dp, put him out there, let him play.
- [33:19]
Dan Patrick
Hey, I learned more. People say, how do you know? Like what, what, what do you buy in on a quarterback? I said, I want to see what he does when he throws an interception, what he does the next series. That, that will tell me everything. I want to know what you do when it's all starting to cave in. And yes, get him out there, let him play. I think they're viewing him as a savior with the Giants. And if you're Brian Dable, he, he has to be a savior to save your job. It feels like can I think, what do you have to see if your ownership of the Giants with Jackson Dart that you're going to bring back that coaching staff?
- [33:56]
Booger McFarland
I think if you see the quarterback fail and then continually get better throughout the season, because I think we all feel like a rookie quarterback is going to struggle, but what you want to see is progress. You want to see him, he may not be Jaden Daniels because he's not, but if you can have some, some moments of success the way Jayden Daniels did as a rookie and toward the end of the year, then you can say, okay, I think the coach can get it out of him. And now I'll bring the coach back. But because I think at some point, and the Giants have been very patient because at some point you got to stop the cycle. You got to stop the cycle of coach on the hot seat, rookie quarterback play, rookie quarterback coach get fired, then you start over. Because now rookie quarterback has raced, has wasted year one and now year two is a learning year and then you're in the year three, and guess what? At a certain point he's going to want to be paid. It's kind of the same thing that's going on in Chicago. Like everybody's talking about like Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams came in, now Ben Johnson is there. I think those two guys are married for like four or five years. I think that's the way to do it. Like you have to marry the coach and the quarterback so he can have time to actually coach the player. And, and so if you're Giants ownership, if Brian D. Shows that Jackson Dart has any type of pulse throughout the season, I think you bring him back. I think you bring him and Joe Shane back maybe on a two year deal. And if they can't get it done at that point, then you make a change. By then, at that point, I think the quarterback will have enough experience where you can figure out whether or not you want to keep him or you want to give the new coach an opportunity to go draft his own quarterback.
- [35:29]
Dan Patrick
If I put everybody at ESPN in the Octagon, huh, who comes out?
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Booger McFarland
I think Chris Canty's going to be a candidate to come out. Myself will be a candidate to come out. I think Marcus Spears probably is a candidate to come out. I mean beyond that, man, like some of these dudes at espn, like it's a lot of dudes that are soft, like Mike Greenberg. Mike Greenberg is soft, man. Greenberg is not. As a matter of fact, Greeny is not even entering the Octagon. Yeah, Kevin Nagandi's not getting in the Octagon. David Lloyd, like some of these guys are not getting in. I think the only person who is a non athlete that may get in would probably be Michael Lee's, but he just had both knees replaced so I'm not sure how long he would last.
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Dan Patrick
How about Shefty?
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Booger McFarland
Have you seen Shefty try to do the Lambo leap or do the gritty? Yeah, like there's nothing athletic about shifting.
- [36:29]
Dan Patrick
Nothing.
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Booger McFarland
And I love him to death. Now he's a, he's a pretty good golfer, so I shouldn't say there's nothing athletic about him. But as far as using that athleticism to in any shape, way or form fight. No, no chance.
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Dan Patrick
What about Kendrick Perkins?
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Booger McFarland
I'm not sure the level of stamina is there for KP to last in the Octagon. And I love Pert. Like perk is 7ft tall and I know Perk is losing some weight, but at a certain point, like you like those rounds last five minutes and so what I would do against Perk is just run for five minutes. Dp like just I'm gonna shuffle, shuffle for Five minutes. And stay out of the way.
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Dan Patrick
Orlovsky can't get in the octagon.
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Booger McFarland
You know what? I don't call him Orloski. I call him the human exclamation point. Because he's six' five and £200. He's, he's bigger than you think. Also, I, I don't know if he's tough. He's a quarterback. Like, how many quarterbacks have you seen that's not named Jim McMahon or Brett Favre that are tough? Like, I, I just don't, I don't think that the quarterback is being tough. Just like you. Like, you host a show, you're amazing at what you do. Nothing about you says I'm tough. Nothing. I mean, and I'm gonna say that to your face now. Super smart. Maybe you're a good golfer. You and I have haven't played golf together, but nothing about you says tough.
- [37:50]
Dan Patrick
That's fair. But mentally tough is something that, you know, that's, that's really rare that I'm mentally tough. You know, I'm sort of like Brady, that you underestimate me and then I become the goat. So underestimate me. It's your.
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Booger McFarland
You know, that may be the only time that someone, even you, compare yourself to Brady, number one. Number two, I want to pick your brain on this. I'm going to the Ryder cup on Friday. Okay. What are your thoughts on the Ryder cup in New York and how do you think this is going to play out? Because I have a theory. Because the course is set up, the rough is not as long because the US Is not the straightest off the tee. I get that. But I think, speaking of mentally tough, I think the Europeans, because of their experience, may be a little bit more mentally tough than the Americans. Let me hear your thoughts on the Router Cup.
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Dan Patrick
Well, I think that we've seen where they galvanize better than we do. Yes, and yes. And I think that there is, there's so much psychological warfare that's involved in this. Like, you must be mentally tough. There's a five footer to have the hole and you got to have guys who can do that. And I think the European team, the way they're built, we've always had individuals. They have a team. And I think even though you have some marquee guys there, big names, they, they still come out as a team. And a team is always going to beat individuals. So I can, I would not be surprised at all if the Europeans win this thing.
- [39:17]
Booger McFarland
That's a great point. I would also add to that. And correct me if I'm wrong, I think the Americans are getting paid, and the Europeans are doing this for free. I think there's something there because. Not that the Americans asked to get paid, even though Patrick Kent wants to be paid to wear a hat, that's a whole different story. I do think, to your point, the Europeans would do this, and they are doing it for free just because of how much it means. I think some way, shape or form, they've always felt inferior to America when it comes to golf, and I think that's why they may get up for this more than the Americans. Would that be fair to say?
- [39:52]
Dan Patrick
I think it's. It's always resonated. It's more important to them.
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Booger McFarland
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Because they have been underdogs, but, you know, most of them live in the United States, so it's not like the old days where you. They maybe weren't playing that much against the PGA Tour guys. Now, you know, they're. They're all kind of comrades in arms here. You got the whole live and the PGA Tour, and then, you know, so Dechambo is the one guy that's the one guy that I'm more curious about than anybody else playing. Do his teammates like him, his style of play? You know, is Justin Thomas going to be his partner here? How does that go? Do you match him up with Rory? I mean, you know, do we get fireworks going, all of those things? So I, I. And that's, you know, a wonderful course for them to play. But the Europeans have played well on that golf course.
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Booger McFarland
I think if, if you're, if you're Luke Donald, I'm pairing Terrell Hatton and John Rom, and I'm sending them out first because I want to set the tone in New York. I need somebody who's used to handling the pressure, who's used to the crowd, and I need a little bit of a guy who's ornery. And I think you get that with Hatton and John Rom. My question for Keegan is, who you going to send out first? Are you sending Scotty and Russell Henley out first? Are you or, or are you going to kind of, you know, send DeChambeau out first just because of the attitude? If it were me, I need to win that first point. I'm sending Scottie Scheffler, Russell Henley, and if I'm the Europeans, I'm sending Terrell Hatton and John Rom. I haven't seen any pairings, but it wouldn't be, it wouldn't surprise me if that's the first match out Friday morning at 7:10.
- [41:33]
Dan Patrick
Look at you. You don't need football. Break down golf here. I love it.
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Booger McFarland
I like having, I like having fun. You know that buddy.
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Dan Patrick
I love it. I love it. Hey, have a great weekend. Thanks again for talking to us and have fun out there anytime.
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Booger McFarland
I appreciate you guys having me. Thank you very much.
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Dan Patrick
Booger McFarlane. He'll see him on NFL Primetime with Chris Berman every Sunday at 7:30 Eastern on ESPN Plus. Take a break. Phone calls coming up and our play of the day after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Todd
Breaking ball on the loop for the center field. Coming on, coming on.
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Booger McFarland
It drops in front.
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Todd
Here comes judging around third, the throw. Not in time. Jose Kamaro at the victory for the New York Yankees as they clinch a playoff spot.
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Booger McFarland
They're Barbie cameo from first base, courtesy.
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Dan Patrick
Of the Yankees radio network. Yankees clinched their eighth playoff appearance in the last nine years. They're within one game of Toronto in the American League East. That's your play of the day. Play of the day, brought to you by Moo. Most cars on the road could use a little tlc. They bring your car back to life. Affordable paint jobs like collision repairs. Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako. They were certainly celebrating the Yankees after clinching a playoff spot. Might be just a wild card spot, but they were. They were really excited about that. Yes, Marvin, if this was the Athletics.
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Todd
Sure, but you're the Yankees and your expectations and not even talking about, oh, Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantle or Joe DiMaggio.
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Dan Patrick
No, no.
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Booger McFarland
You guys went to the World Series.
- [47:44]
Todd
Last year getting a playoff spot. Look, I'm always celebrating, but let's not pop the champagne. Or even the Bud Lights.
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Dan Patrick
Yes.
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Todd
Or the Miller Lights.
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Marvin
I didn't know what type of celebration. I had to look it up. They had the. The tarps out. They had champagne, they had the goggles. This was a well choreographed event.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, but who plans that? Did Aaron Boone say. Yep. If we win, we clinch, we're going to celebrate. Did ownership say something? Were the players aware that there was going to be a celebration for what might just be a wild card birth? Yes.
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Marvin
You would think that the clubhouse guys got the order from someone, hey, get it ready. Get the champagne, the tarps, the goggles. But you would think that the manager would have to give a thumbs up at some juncture.
- [48:31]
Dan Patrick
Would you celebrate like that for a wild card birth if you're the Yankees? Yes, Todd, Absolutely not.
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Todd
With their tradition and their history, that just seems ridiculous to me. Even though there's some players that never experienced the press before. I get that. Let them have a little celebration, especially if they bow out early. But no.
- [48:49]
Dan Patrick
Anybody else have a problem with celebrating a wild card? What is right now a wild card birth, playoff appearance and you're the Yankees. You got to factor in that you're the Yankees because it's, you know, as Marvin said, if it's the A's who made the playoffs, then, yeah, go crazy. Se. I'm not against people being happy, but.
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Paulie
It'S a little excessive. It's It's a little excessive.
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Dan Patrick
We, we talked about robo umps, the automatic automated balls and strikes that are coming to baseball just a little bit next season. Chris in Syracuse on that topic. Hi, Chris.
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Chris
Hey, thanks, Dan. Hey, yeah, I wanted to comment on that and also I just wanted to say I, I heard Brian Callahan, Tennessee Titans, was head coach, was relieved of his play calling duties and they gave it to the quarterback coach. So yeah, with a new gm, I wonder if he's on the hot seat. And yeah, poor showing Houston. I wonder if that'll be his demise. And yeah, on the robos, I think down the road when it's full time, one aspect that's going to be entertaining is, you know, the players are still going to complain about the balls and strikes.
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Dan Patrick
So what are they going to do though?
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Chris
Inevitably look at the umpire and the umpire will just shrug his shoulders and say, hey, what do you want from me, pal? And yesterday I caught only one segment. You guys were talking Shawshank Redemption and Paul mentioned something I didn't know originally they wanted Morgan Freeman's character to be portrayed as an Irish guy, which I thought was ironic because when Andy Dufresne and Red met for the first time, they were chit chat. And after the chit chat, Andy looked at him and said, hey, why do they call you Red? And he was playing catching. He turned him and said, I guess because I'm Irish.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, it's a sneaky line because they had originally were going to cast Irish somebody who's Irish for that. Thank you, Chris Patrick in Ohio. Hi, Patrick.
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Patrick
Hey, how you doing? The long time, third time I've ever called you. Yeah, I want to shout out to the Dan, it's as well. I've been listening forever. I was a truck driver so I didn't get to call it much, but I've been listening for. Since you've been at your house, I think, and I love this show. Yeah, the Robo man. I think they can, you know, if we're going to go with it, let's just go all the way. I think just make it part of the entertainment there. You know, you let the crowd vote on the balls and strikes and you know, if it's a bad call after so many bad calls, you know, you just fire the umpire right on the spot. This is your fifth bad call.
- [51:15]
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Patrick. I'm, I'm okay with change. I don't want this to be like the Roman Coliseum or is it a thumbs up or thumbs down for the umpire? Reggie in California. Hi, Reggie.
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Patrick
Hey, Dan. This is Reggie. Coming. Hey. I just want to say I had a co worker that I worked with, 30 years old, registered nurse, just passed away suddenly last week. She was a long time Dodger fan. And me and her used to go back and forth about Dodgers bullpen. God, it just used to make me smile when the way she used to get, you know, all riled up about the Dodgers bullpen. They're not doing so hot. But anyways, rest in peace, April. Registered nurse. We love you. Okay. RoboCop, Robo Umpire. Yeah. Hey, how are the. How are the batters gonna. How is this gonna affect the batters? You know, the batter's been, you know, all their life they've been, you know, coming up to the plate and, you know, listening to the. The umpire stir. Right. Well. And you're out of here.
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Dan Patrick
Thank you, Reg. That's not changing.
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Marvin
He was all fired up to do that.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yes. Rest in peace, April. See? Would you update the poll results from the first hour of the program?
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Paulie
I sure will. We have up there right now robots in baseball, umps or chumps.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. All right.
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Paulie
Right now, 66% of the audience have robots in baseball as umps. I think that means they like it. If it was chumps, it would be a negative. I think people like it.
- [52:59]
Dan Patrick
All right. Danny Hurley, he's going to join us. Coming up, final hour of the program has a memoir. Is he Dan Hurley now? He's not Danny Hurley.
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Todd
I still don't know. I see Dan. Danny. We'll have to ask him.
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Dan Patrick
A Danny, at what age do you just become Dan? Yes, Todd.
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Todd
But Chris ever wants to be Chrissy.
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Dan Patrick
For some reason, she could be whatever she wants to be.
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Todd
Good point.
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Dan Patrick
One hour in the books. Two more to go.
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