Hour 1 – Seahawks Win but Rams Still Favorites, College Football Playoffs Changes Coming

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1

Episode: Seahawks Win but Rams Still Favorites, College Football Playoff Changes Coming
Date: December 19, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Host: Dan Patrick

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Episode Overview

This episode kicks off with a breakdown of the thrilling Seahawks vs. Rams Thursday Night Football game, analyzes its playoff implications, and debates whether the Rams are still Super Bowl favorites despite the overtime loss. The conversation then shifts to major changes coming in the College Football Playoff format, with Dan providing insider details. The crew reflects on college football’s underdog stories, the influence of NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) money, and debates about upsets versus chalk. There’s also side discussion on Dan’s show traditions (such as office awards and food), MVP voting in the NFL, and lighthearted banter about the show’s infamous pie-to-the-face bets.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Seahawks vs. Rams: Overtime Thriller (04:13–11:55)

• Seattle wins in OT, 38–37: Dan lauds the wild, back-and-forth game and its dramatic finish, noting how either team “could have claimed the narrative” depending on the result.
• Game Analysis:
  • Seahawks had three turnovers but still won.
  • “Matthew Stafford threw for 450 yards. Puka Nakua had 12 catches, 225 yards… and Seattle's still going to win this game.” (Dan, 05:39)
  • Rams had no turnovers yet lost, raising questions about what went wrong.
  • “Do I still have questions about Sam Darnold? I do. I think they won maybe in spite of him.” (Dan, 08:14)
• Coaching Decision:
  • Seattle head coach Mike Macdonald described the decision to go for two in OT:
    • “I just felt great about our play and I… trusted our guys… once we got that drive going, it was pretty clear on what we were going to do. I loved it, but I don’t have to answer to the media, but I did love it.” (Mike Macdonald via clip, 06:31)
• Playoff Implications:
  • Seattle is now 12–3, LA 11–4.
  • “Who do you think is the favorite right now? According to DraftKings, the Rams are still the team to beat in the NFC, in the NFL. Then it’s the Seahawks, then Broncos, Bills, Eagles, Texans.” (Dan, 07:35)

2. College Football Playoff: Underdogs, Upsets & New Structure (11:56–32:00)

• David vs. Goliath in CFB
  • Dan draws parallels between college football and March Madness, questioning why underdog wins are cherished in basketball but not football:
    • “We don’t want upsets in football, but, man, do we crave upsets with March Madness.” (Dan, 10:41)
  • Nick Saban's remarks criticized:
    • “I was surprised and disappointed that Nick [Saban] said that… you're supposed to be kind of a steward of the game… James Madison and Tulane shouldn't be punished for something that college football and their committee came up with. They earned it.” (Dan, 11:37, 13:12)
• Poll Question: WR You Trust With Your Life
  • Paulie: “If your life depended on it, one catch—you taking Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Jackson Smith-Njigba or Puka Nakua?” (14:32)
  • The crew gives props to Puka Nakua for his recent performances.
• Puka Nakua’s Controversial Comments
  • Head Coach Sean McVay responds after Puka criticized referees:
    • “He was very apologetic… he's a young guy that’s a great kid that’s continuing to learn about… just the platform that… he has. I love him. We're going to continue to… help him learn and grow.” (Sean McVay, 15:09)
• CFP Format News Teased
  • Dan promises inside info ("after the break") on agreed changes to the playoff system, expanding to either 14 or 16 teams, with conference champions and top teams guaranteed spots. (12:30, revisited at 25:43)

3. Inside Scoop: New College Football Playoff Format (25:43–29:25)

• Breakdown of Proposed Structure:
  • Each of Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Big 12 guarantees their champion a playoff berth.
  • Highest-ranked remaining conference champ gets a slot.
  • Notre Dame is guaranteed a berth if in the top 12.
  • “Big Ten and SEC basically told the other conferences—‘Here’s the deal, take it or we’ll have our own playoff and keep all the proceeds.’” (Dan, 26:54)
  • Possible future expansion to 16 or 24 teams, but the immediate plan is for 14.
  • Dan and Paulie discuss “expectations management,” suggesting the NCAA leaked rumors of 24 teams to make 16 seem reasonable.

4. Paying Players & NIL Era

(32:36–34:55)

• Paulie suggests NIL has made traditional powerhouses a bit more vulnerable, though Dan points out the separation in roster talent and NFL prospects remains.
• “There’s a big separation. Is Tulane or James Madison gonna have a first-round pick?… It's just a big, big drop-off.” (Dan, 33:18)

5. Fan & Crew Reactions: More Teams, More Money

(36:35–39:53)

• Caller Josh: Points out CFB fans are never quite satisfied ("never happy") as the playoff system keeps evolving.
• Dan's analysis: “It's money. College basketball, college football: more games, more money. March Madness—more games, more money. I've said it many times, follow the money. I don't care. The answer is money; now, what's the question?” (Dan, 34:29)
• Marvin raises concern about player workload and whether the regular season will shrink with expanded playoffs: “Are we going to treat them like professionals now? Eighteen game schedule?” (Dan, 39:02)

6. Show Banter: Most Valuable Danette, Office Awards, and Food

(14:34–18:36)

• The crew jokes about strategies and possible “backstabbing” for office popularity votes.
• “There’s already backstabbing in the backroom, guys... It’s starting to get a little ugly here. And I said, great, that's content.” (Dan, 24:38)
• Office food highlights (“beef and bison chili, wagyu smashed burgers... Who has it better than we do?”)
• Playful pie-to-the-face bet updates; Seton avoids a pie for his Seahawks pick.

7. NFL MVP Discussion & Puka Nakua’s Value

(18:10–18:36, 51:17–52:33)

• Puka Nakua is praised for outperforming his modest salary: “Puka Nakua makes a million dollars this year. A million. And he's gonna make a million next year… for the Rams, he'll be paid less than $5 million.” (Paulie/Dan, 18:10)
• Jerry Rice comparisons for Puka’s football speed: “There’s a Jerry Rice feel to him... I don't care because there's football speed and then there's track speed, and he's got football speed.” (Dan, 18:36)
• Matthew Stafford said to have essentially locked up the MVP, even after the Rams’ loss:
  • “He's winning the MVP. He didn’t have Devonte Adams and he threw for 450... They’re going to be in the playoffs and he's been great from start to finish.” (Dan, 51:51)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We don’t want upsets in football, but, man, do we crave upsets with March Madness.”
  — Dan Patrick (10:41)
• “Seattle gets the win in overtime... but if Seattle had lost that game, what would we be saying today?”
  — Dan Patrick (05:25)
• “I just felt great about our play and I… trusted our guys… once we got that drive going, it was pretty clear on what we were going to do.”
  — Mike Macdonald, Seahawks HC (06:31)
• “Do I still have questions about Sam Darnold? I do. I think they won maybe in spite of him.”
  — Dan Patrick (08:14)
• “If your life depended on it—one catch—you taking Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Jackson Smith-Njigba or Puka Nakua?”
  — Paulie (14:32)
• “We’re going to continue to put our arm around [Puka] and help him learn and grow. But we never want to do things that ever offend anybody, and I know he feels that same way.”
  — Sean McVay (15:09)
• “It’s money. College basketball, college football: more games, more money. March Madness—more games, more money. I’ve said it many times: follow the money. I don’t care. The answer is money—now what’s the question?”
  — Dan Patrick (34:29)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 04:13–11:55: Detailed Seahawks-Rams game discussion and playoff implications.
• 12:00–13:12: March Madness versus CFB upsets; Saban’s comments.
• 13:12–15:34: Puka Nakua’s comments, McVay’s response, NFL discipline.
• 25:43–29:25: Inside scoop on new College Football Playoff format.
• 32:36–34:55: NIL, upsets, and shifting power in college football.
• 35:33–39:53: Conversation on playoff expansion, player workload, and the impact on the regular season.
• 51:17–52:33: Matthew Stafford’s MVP candidacy.

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The Show’s Tone & Style

Dan Patrick leads the conversation with his signature blend of insight, humor, and irreverent banter. The crew (Paulie, Todd, Marvin, Seton) bounce off one another with jokes, mock polling, and friendly rivalry, making stats and hot takes enjoyable. Dan balances fan perspective with that of a seasoned journalist, frequently pointing out industry realities, such as the money-driven nature of NCAA expansions.

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For Further Listening

• Second hour preview: Upcoming guests: Lewis Riddick (ESPN analyst), Ryan Leaf (Packers vs. Bears broadcast).
• More on CFB playoff structure and NFL MVP race.
• Update on College Football Title odds.

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This summary presents all essential content and lively debate from Hour 1, letting you catch up on the latest NFL and college football news, plus enjoy a sampling of the Dan Patrick Show’s unique spirit.

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There were a couple things it could have been. Matthew Stafford solidified. The mvp. Rams are the team to beat in the NFL. Seattle at home, Sam Darnold. They're frauds. It could have gone a couple of different ways last night. It's wild how it ended. I even joked yesterday the game was too big for Thursday night. It actually took Thursday night to Friday morning in some parts of the country. But Seattle gets the win in overtime, 38, 37. But if Seattle had lost that game, what would we be saying today? Because keep in mind, Seattle nearly won the first game between these two when Sam Darnold threw four interceptions. They had three turnovers last night and they still won the game. Matthew Stafford threw for 450 yards. Puka Nakua had 12 catches, 225 yards. Like you're going and Seattle's still going to win this game. And the Rams didn't have any turnovers. There were, you know, there were no interceptions by Stafford. So you're looking at it's 30 to 14. You go, yeah, all right. Rams are a better team. Seattle was stayed in there. You know, the defense, when they needed to, came up with some really big plays. Now, did you get some ricochets there? Did you get some bounces? Yes, you got all of those things. The punt return to me was really big. But Seattle goes for two. Here's their head coach, Mike McDonald. Well, something we had talked about really throughout the season and then really particularly for this game because of the playoff situation. You know, you play for the tie, you know, make lock up a playoff seed. But I just felt like, I just felt great about our play and I. And I trusted our guys and to Clint's credit too, he was really confident and. And then the players ultimately make it happen. So once we got that drive going, it was pretty clear on what we were going to do. I loved it, but I don't have to answer to the media, but I did love it. You're at home, you felt good. The comeback. And let's take advantage of this. So the records after last night, Seattle's 12 and 3. LA is 11 and 4. Who do you think is the favorite right now for the super bowl? According to DraftKings this morning just got the super bowl odds. The Rams are still the team to beat in the nfc, in the NFL. Then it's the Seahawks, then it's the Broncos, Bills, Eagles and Texans. So we want to make it a statement game, a statement win. But this is, this is about two teams that took advantage when they needed to. And Seattle had the last chance to take advantage and they end up winning. But it was great. It was a great game back and forth. You may get home field advantage now. Do I still have questions about Sam Darnold? I do. I think they won Maybe in spite of him. They almost won in spite of him the first time against the Rams. And Stafford looked great. Puka, Nakua look great. But, you know, Seattle ran the football and came up with a couple of big stomps and that's what you want. Get a couple of three and outs and then try to make them pay. But it was, it was wonderful to watch that game. A lot of fun back and forth. All right, so you got college football coming up, Alabama and Oklahoma on a Friday night. And we're going to look at some of the different scenarios of if Miami gets blown out. What are people going to say if Alabama would get blown out? What could happen to their head coach? What if Tulane shocks Ole Miss and then we go, well, they should have kept Lane Kiffin in there. James Madison against Oregon. Everybody has already made their declaration, Oregon's going to win. But by how much? Now all I can tell you is I watched JMU play twice this year. That defense is really good. And this might be a situation where Oregon eventually wins, but James Madison keeps it close. Oregon, Oregon starting slow, maybe a first half cover. I don't know what that number is, but James Madison's going in. This is everything to James Madison. Oregon is probably looking at this as, all right, who do we have after James Madison? I'm not saying that they're going to shock the world, but I hope we're surprised at how well James Madison can play. It's been a good program here for the last couple of years. And yes. Is this a tall task? Absolutely. To Lane against Ole Miss. Absolutely. And Nick Saban came out and said, you know, we shouldn't even have, you know, these smaller schools like you don't take a triple A baseball team and put them into the Major League Baseball playoffs. And I was surprised and disappointed that Nick said that because you're supposed to be kind of a steward of the game. Now you're not at Alabama. You're on college game day. And it's not like James Madison and Tulane created this format. It's all these so called smart people who created this format. I do have an update on a playoff format for next year. Okay, I'm going to do that after the break. And there's a couple of things in there that you should know. A couple of surprises that I found out yesterday. But I said we're going to 14 or 16 next year and it looks like they've already agreed to that. But I'll give you some of the details on the new playoff format. And Notre Dame will be in the playoff. You know, picture if they finish in the top 12. But, you know, we don't. We don't want upsets in football, but, man, do we crave upsets with March Madness. Like, if. If JMU was playing Oregon and it was basketball and Oregon was one of the top five teams, we'd be like, man, JMU can pull this off. That would be great. Or if Tulane's playing Ole Miss and Ole Miss is a top 10 team or a number four seed overall, we'd be like, Tulane, just pull it off. A shocker there. But when it gets to college football, we don't. We want chalk. We don't. No surprises here. Don't do that to us. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

I think because it's a numbers game, because there's so many teams in the NCAA tournament. All right, great. Michigan State got knocked out in the first round, but guess what? I still got duke, Carolina, Yukon, UCLA. In college football, it's not like that. There's only 12 of those teams, so you don't want one of those big dogs like Oregon. Early candidate for most must win game of the weekend. This can change everything. If JMU wins all the small schools going forward. Yeah, look, we belong.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But in basketball, you can get hot. You, you know, playing on a neutral site and, you know, you can get some magic there in college basketball. It's really difficult to shock somebody in college football, especially when you're playing at their home stadium. But I hope that they. I hope that they're able to play in a way that they're proud no matter what the end result is, because. Yes. Do I like these kind of stories? I do. Should Notre Dame be in instead of JMU or Tulane? Absolutely. But JMU and Chilean shouldn't be punished for something that college football and their committee came up with. I mean, they earned it. It's not like they go, you know what? This is a sponsors exemption and it's a golf tournament. Like, hey, you can come on in. That's not what happened. They did what they were supposed to do. Do I like it? No. I'd like to see Notre Dame in there. The. Because Notre Dame could win the national title. I think they're that good. They didn't get in, so we move on. And now you got these games coming up tonight, but guaranteed, you're going to get the. Now they never should have been in. Told you. Okay. Told who? Tell the committee. They came up with this. It's like Tulane. You know, man, I just. I'm disappointed. Nick Saban should say, hey, they did what they were supposed to do and maybe they changed the format but let's, let's welcome them. Let's see what they can do. That's what I wanted to hear out of Nick Saban instead of, you know what? We didn't you don't invite a Triple A team. You know, you, you don't invite. Yeah, we know all of that. But they did what they were supposed to do, what they were asked to do and I hope that they are able to put up a good effort there and maybe win, maybe shock the world. Seaton what's poll question for the first hour of the program? Got one here from Paul if your life depended on it. This one catch you taking Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Jackson Smith and Jigba or Puka Nakua taking Puka Nakua. Recency bias.

[Paulie]

He is getting silly with his catches.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, he, if it's, if it's around him, it's, it's his. Even when it's not around him, it's, it's his. He's. I never worry about him on the field. It's off the field. He was criticizing the officials last night right after the game and I'm going to didn't do the proposed celebration that maybe he was going to get in trouble for anti Semitic. That was, that was good that he avoided that. Here's Sean McVeigh talking about Puka Nakua's comments after the game.

[Caller/Guest]

He was very apologetic. I don't think he understood the totality.

[Dan Patrick]

Of some of the things.

[Caller/Guest]

I think he issued that apology.

[Dan Patrick]

I know this guy's heart and for.

[Caller/Guest]

Anybody that was offended, terribly sorry about that.

[Dan Patrick]

I know he feels that same exact way.

[Caller/Guest]

He's a young guy that's a great.

[Dan Patrick]

Kid that's continuing to learn about, you.

[Caller/Guest]

Know, just the platform that, that he has.

[Dan Patrick]

I love him. We're going to continue to put our.

[Caller/Guest]

Arm around him and help him learn and grow.

[Dan Patrick]

But we never want to do things.

[Caller/Guest]

That ever offend anybody and I know.

[Dan Patrick]

He feels that same way. Yeah, but that's talking about the video that he did on a podcast after the game last night. He was critical of the referees and now is when the NFL's got to find him. Now they will. By the way, Most valuable Least Valuable Dan at voting is up and [e-mail] the link also in our Twitter and Instagram bio as well. Most Valuable Least valuable danpatrick.com we will tabulate your votes and Tuesday, Tuesday in the final hour of the program. Oh Boy, that's when we make the big announcement, big reveal. And also the most valuable backroom guy as well. There's only 13 people, 12 full time people who work here, including all of us, you know, the five here. But there are some very valuable back room guys. It's a really, it's going to be a really close vote and I'm the one that's voting. It's going to be one vote for the most valuable backroom guy. And it may shock people. I'm just going to say that I don't know if the most valuable, least valuable is going to shock anybody, but there's always that possibility. That's a fan vote. Okay. I'm not, I'm not involved in that. I will cast my vote. But this, I'm gonna leave it up to the audience. Most valuable, Least valuable. Danette. I think, Fritzi, you've won it a couple of times now.

[Todd]

Yeah. Taking on both of those.

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Yeah.

[Todd]

That's, you know, the roller coaster ride, the emotions that come with these prizes.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Paul.

[Paulie]

So is there anything us, any of us can do in the last three hours here to garner a couple extra votes or lose them?

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Oh, yes. Yeah. You get to vote till Tuesday, so. Wow. Yeah, there's plenty of room to screw up. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, we were having backstabbing going on in the back room there. Is there anyone that thinks that they've got it and they're about to get the rug pulled out like Notre Dame where they thought they were going to be winning and they're not going to get that award?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know. Todd, why don't you go back and.

[Todd]

Say hello to a couple of guys?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Once you go back there.

[Todd]

I usually only go back there if there's like hot dogs or egg rolls on the, on the grill there.

[Dan Patrick]

No, you do go back to do your stand up act.

[Todd]

I'll try a couple of things out on them just to kind of see if there's something there.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. But I, I'll walk by and Mario and Anthony are trying to get ready for the show. And then Todd will do basically five minutes of stand up.

[Todd]

I have my little notebook. I'll cross out things that aren't good. I'll put a little check mark if they giggled.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paul, by the way, we've talked about this before. I think we did this with Isaiah Pacheco, the most valuable player in the NFL based off salary. Puka Nakua makes a million dollars this year. A million. And he's gonna make a million next year. He's his four years for the Rams, he'll be paid less than $5 million.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I don't think he'll make a million next year. I don't think so.

[Paulie]

But let's say that the first three years of his career he made $2.8 million.

[Dan Patrick]

But this was like Cooper Cup. And to see him on the field last night in a Seattle uniform, I mean, Cooper cup had years better than Pukinakua. But Paulie goes, how fast do you think Pukinakua is? And then he answered his own question. He goes fast enough. Yes, there is a Jerry. I brought this up a couple of weeks ago. There's a Jerry Rice feel to him from the standpoint of I don't know how fast he is, but I know he's big, but I don't know what his 40 is and I don't care because there's football speed and then there's track speed and he's got football speed. And you saw that again last night. All right, we'll take a break. When we come back, your phone calls on this meet Friday. Also, I'll give you the information I have on the College Football Playoff format that I believe has been agreed upon a while ago. But I got information last night, so I'll bring that to your attention coming up here in about five minutes. We'll take a break. We're back after this in the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, is Cavino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yup, that's right. You can now watch Covino ENRICH Live on YouTube every day. All you got to do Search COVINO and RICH FSR on YouTube again. Go to YouTube search COVINOENRICH FSR. Check us out on YouTube. Subscribe hit that thumbs up icon and comment away.

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[Dan Patrick]

And Doug, what a horrible call. Hey, ref. Open your eyes, ref. You're really not gonna call that?

[Todd]

Come on.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, ref, why don't you customize your car insurance with Liberty Mutual and save money? I don't think you get what we're doing. Sure I do. We're all just giving him advice.

[Paulie]

You guys on sports, me on saving money.

[Dan Patrick]

Nope, that's not it.

[Paulie]

Only pay for what you [e-mail] Liberty.

[Dan Patrick]

Liberty. Liberty. Round of applause for Seaton O'. Connor.

[Todd]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton said the Chiefs weren't going to make the playoffs and he was all in on the Seahawks beating the Rams last night. Fire. Yeah, the Seton Hawks. So he avoids a pie to the face. I have a pie to the face coming up at the end of the show. Fritz, he will administer the pie to my face.

[Todd]

And you said you wanted the thing on top of your head.

[Dan Patrick]

I did not.

[Todd]

You didn't want.

[Dan Patrick]

Because if I do, there will be blood.

[Todd]

It could affect the voting process.

[Dan Patrick]

That's. That's true. By the way, there's already backstabbing the backroom guys. You know, Mario is already upset. He's the defending backroom guy winner last year. Now you got some backroom guys who were nominating other backroom guys. Then you got some. I mean, now it's starting to get a little ugly here. And I said, great, that's content. Go ahead. Make sure whatever you do, you do it on camera. Okay. But we will announce the most valuable backroom guy. Most valuable Dan. At least valuable Dan at. And I have the one vote for the BRG.

[Marvin]

You.

[Dan Patrick]

The audience will [e-mail] on the most valuable. Least valuable Dan.

[Todd]

Yes, John, has anyone asked to speak with you privately in recent days or weeks to state their case?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yes.

[Todd]

Madden, Were you receptive to that? That was weak on their part to do that.

[Dan Patrick]

I. I told that person during the commercial break that if they would like to talk to me, then do it privately. Just letting you know, there's some things going on. Things going.

[Todd]

Bribes, gifts?

[Dan Patrick]

No, nothing like that. Just a chat. All right, here's the information I got. This is the College Football Playoff format that we will see it looks like next year. This was done in the spring of 2024 is when they came up with this new format. Each of the Big Four conferences, so Big Ten, ACC, SEC, SEC and Big 12 guaranteed a birthday for being their champion. The highest ranked team among remaining conferences is also involved. Notre Dame is guaranteed a birth if in the top 12 rankings. All the other slots, six of those, if you include Notre Dame as the top 12 teams at large births for the field. That means if we use next year's structure, Notre Dame would be in and Duke would have been in because they won the ACC. James Madison would not be in the Big Ten. And SEC went to the Big 12 in ACC and said, hey, we're going to guarantee your champion gets into the playoffs. They got Notre Dame support by saying, you're going to get in if you're part of the top 12 ranked teams. This is where it gets interesting. The Big Ten in SEC went to the Mountain West, PAC 12, Sun Belt, Mac, American Conference, Conference USA, and they laid out the new structure here, the new format. And they said that the two conferences, Big Ten and sec, will have ultimate control over the college football playoffs and then gave the six conferences a short window to accept the deal. It was basically, here it is, accept it. And then they did. Now, if they hadn't, the SEC and Big Ten were apparently ready to have their own playoff structure and take all the proceeds. So it would just be the Big Ten in the SEC. Right now, it's. It's for either 12 or 14. There's nothing that says what if they go to 16 or 24? But that will open up more discussion here. And my source wasn't sure if this structure would work for 16 to 24 or how that would work. But this is going to be the playoff format moving forward. And this you'll still have maybe a Cinderella story or two in there, but if you go to 14 or 16 and Pete Babaqua, Notre Dame athletic director, said we should be going to 16 teams. Maybe you're going to 14. I don't have the number and my source didn't have the number. But the playoff format is designated for 14 schools. Yes, Paulie.

[Paulie]

So a couple of weeks ago, even on our show it was talked about that it could go to 24 teams. It almost feels like that people in college football leaked out or suggested 24. So when it goes to 16, everyone's like, well, that's not so bad. 16. It's the natural evolution. Like you managing expectations. You throw out 24, which, I mean, lots of people throwing out 24 teams. People like, no way. That's too much. Regular season will get hurt.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I don't want 24.

[Paulie]

And nobody does. Which is why I think people in college football threw that out there. So when it moves quickly to 16, it's not a big of a deal.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I don't give college football much credit when it comes to this stuff because they've screwed it up. The NCAA screwed up. You can't sit there and go, man, I see what they. This is what the NFL does now. If the NFL does that, I go, okay, I see what they're doing college football and be like, I don't know, how about this? Or then how about this? And then, I don't know, let's change this.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, you know what's really bothering people, at least on social media this week, is that different. College football programs are announcing that they're resigning players. All the schools are doing it. I don't know who kind of invented, but it's now become the thing. Blank, blank. Football has re signed Ted Smith or whatever. Everyone's doing it and it's really turning people off.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm fine with it. Like there's other things to be worried about, concerned about. Then we're going to make an announcement that our quarterback is staying. There's. There's other bigger problems now. You are resigning them. It's all business. You are resigning these kids. It's year to year. Kevin in Michigan. Kevin, what's on your mind today?

[Caller/Guest]

Hey, Dan, good morning. 64199. Dan, just wanted to push back a little bit on your opinion from earlier, saying you kind of the term. We don't want to see these underdogs beat these favorites, the College Football Playoff. But I kind of push back on. On that and say it is relatively similar to basketball. Unless you're. You pledge allegiance to those teams like Ohio State, Georgia, Notre Dame, if they were in it. Anyone outside of those folks who pledge allegiance. I feel like for the most part want to see those teams go down and I think all the way back to Boise State and they're upset over Oklahoma. I know that was many moons ago, but just what an incredible game that was.

[Dan Patrick]

I know, but we keep going back to that game. We don't bring up any other game. If you give me three or four more now, I, I'm glad James Madison and Tulane are in. They did what they were supposed to do. They shouldn't be punished. All I want to make sure is that they're not blowouts, that they get blown out and then people say the following. I told you so that that's the only thing that I don't want to happen. If they happen to shock the world, great. It's content I don't have. I'm not rooting for anybody. But you know, the line is 20 and a half. I mean, the odds are probably not great. It's going to be a great game. But Kevin, thank you. I'll take those comments under advisement. But if you have a surprise in March Madness, we expect that. It's really rare. I mean there's a real separation between the powerhouses and JMU in Tulane. A real separation, talent wise and as a result, financially, how they built these rosters and do they have a chance? They're on the field, you have a chance. But if you look at the point spreads, not likely that they're going to keep it close. And that's, that's the only thing that I, I hope that we can have competitive games. That's all. Because I just don't want it. I told you so. I told you so. Yep. You can tell me so. Because you know, Vegas is expecting blowouts here. Yeah. Paul.

[Paulie]

I would say though that because of the NL Nil era, that these big heavyweight programs are a little more vulnerable than they were six or seven years ago. Like it wouldn't even be a game. Like Oregon squeaked by Iowa, which is a nice team. They had a couple other close ones. There's not a steamroller in college football anymore. Ohio State's pretty close, but even they lost.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but that's this year. I mean, Ohio State, although they lost to Michigan last year, Ohio State, Ohio State's going to have probably five first round draft picks. Five first round draft picks, maybe more. And two of their marquee guys aren't even eligible for the draft. So there's a big separation. It. Is Tulane or James Madison going to have a first round pick? I don't think so. Second round, third round? Probably not. It's just a big, big drop off. And that's where college football needs to get to the point where everybody is on a level playing field and you know you're going to get that because of nil your collectives. You know, we're heading towards it. It's not stopping right now. Even with 14 playoff teams or even 16, it's going to go to 24. March Madness will end up at 96. One of these days in our lifetime, It'll go to 96 schools. And the reason is they never pass on money. That's why when we had four teams and I, I said immediately, like, I was going to be thrilled if we got 14, the college football playoffs would be four schools. And I go, okay, that's progress. And then I said, once they realize the amount of money here, it's going to quickly double, if not triple. And that's what we're facing right now. And facing is the wrong word. That's the new world in college football. Because of the amount of money that's there for these conferences, Notre Dame, individually, there's a lot of money at stake. More games, more money. March Madness, more games, more money. I've said it many times, follow the money. I don't care. The. The answer is money. Now, what's the question? Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

And the coach of the 97th basketball team is, of course going to wonder why he got fired and be shocked that just because he didn't make the field of 96 that they showed him the door.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Todd.

[Todd]

You're welcome.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

I think if you see one of those powerhouses, maybe say, like a Texas A M get Molly whopped in the College Football Playoff, there's going to be some issues because they shell out so much money that they're gonna be like, what are we paying you all this money for? We're paying you to try to win a national title. You're not paying these guys or the collective 20 to 30 million dollars to lose in the first round of the College Football Playoff. So you're going to see more guys get fired in the middle of September, the middle of October, because these, you know, these boosters are shelling out so much money.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but Miami is, what, a three and a half point underdog, four and a half point underdog against Texas A M. So that wouldn't surprise anybody. I mean, I'm waiting. If A m wins by 14, and then you're going to hear, well, see, they shouldn't have been in. Notre Dame should have been in.

[Marvin]

Yes, Mark, but if you're a booster for Texas A M, you don't want to hear that. You want to hear that we won. They don't want to hear that. Oh, they were favored, so they should have won. No, no, we paid Mike Elko. We paid all these players 20, 30 million dollars. As a collective.

[Dan Patrick]

Miami paid their players. They all Pay their. I mean, Carson Beck was the highest paid quarterback when he went to Miami. I think he went out and bought a Ferrari or a Lamborghini. Like, I mean, they're all getting paid, but not the smaller schools.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, remember in college when like someone had a new Accord and that was cool. You imagine rolling around in a Lambo. I mean, even it's Miami, you're sticking out.

[Dan Patrick]

Josh in San Antonio. Hi, Josh. What's on your mind?

[Caller/Guest]

Hey, Dan. I'm an admitted college football junkie and I blame myself because I'll watch however many games they put on. But one thing I will say about college football fans is that we're never happy. First it was the coaches in the AP defense debating who is going to be playing in the college football championship. Then we said, no, that can't, that can't work. Let's go to a computer system, the bcs. And we said, no, that can't work. So we said, let's go to a 14 playoff. And now it's 12 teams. And now it's this kind of contrived idea that you mentioned with the Big 12 or the Big 10 and the SEC running it. I had no self control. I'm going to watch every game that they're going to put on. But I really wish, I really value. And what makes college football special is the regular season. Every game matters. And if any year, this year for a 14 playoff, those four teams are a tier above everybody else.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, yeah, I worry about the regular season, but now all of a sudden more teams have an opportunity to, if they play well during the regular season, get into the postseason. You know, it's, it's a kind of a push pull, taffy pole. It feels like, like if you have more teams, then it's watered down and it doesn't mean the same and I know, but it's, it's the new, new age. It's money. College basketball, college football, the amount of money March Madness. Why not have more madness college football? Let's have more teams, more money, more televised games. Feels like a win, win. And I don't know if they're worried about us as much as they're worried about themselves. The amount of money that now are you going to watch tonight? I mean, this is standalone game, Alabama and Oklahoma, no NFL. Maybe as we get closer to Christmas. You're staying inside. You watch the game. I know. I mean these ratings aren't going to be good this, this first rip of games because the NFL and even you got a game on opposite the Bears in the packers on Saturday night. You do have a standalone game on Saturday. I think that's noon Miami and Texas A and M. But you know they're not going to do well in the ratings.

[Marvin]

Yeah, Marv, stupid question, but do you think there's going to be less regular season games in college football if they expand the 24 teams?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know how many. I don't know how many regular season games that you can have. And then you have the postseason because you're going to say to these kids, are we going to treat them like professionals now? They're going to have an 18 game schedule or the potential for an 18 game schedule. And I wonder about that. Well, I wonder how many games is too many right now. If you have 12, you go into the playoffs now, you win what, three games? So that's 15 games. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, you think we don't care about the health of NFL players? We really don't care about the health of college players. There's zero protection.

[Dan Patrick]

That's why I said, why is it the NFL, they want to protect them and they change the kickoff. But in college football, they don't change the kickoff. That's like, ah, you got your bell. Run. Get back in there. Come on. Hey, you're getting paid. Nil. Money. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

And what about the exams and the papers these student athletes have to do? You can't keep giving them more games. They'll never have any time to study.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you being sarcastic? A little bit.

[Todd]

A little.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. Our play of the day is next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Paulie]

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[Todd]

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[Dan Patrick]

Oh my God. The play of the day. Water looks iconic. This is the play of the day. Check this out. Darnold under center.

[Caller/Guest]

Play fake to Walker.

[Dan Patrick]

Rolls to his left, Looks fired.

[Caller/Guest]

Backside wide open.

[Dan Patrick]

Reaching up, cut down. Seahawks, pull that one out of your bag of tricks. Roll to the left.

[Caller/Guest]

Darnold stops, throws back to the right.

[Dan Patrick]

Barner in the end zone.

[Caller/Guest]

And he had to leap.

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He used every bit of his 6ft 7 inches. Holy catf. The Seahawks have come back in a big way. Courtesy of the Seahawks radio network, Seattle has won five in a row. It's your play of the day, brought to you by Simply Safe. Traditional security systems only take action after somebody's already inside. That's too late. Simply Safe. Designed to be proactive. Stopping crime before it starts take 50 off any new [e-mail] there is no safe like simply safe. You can vote on the most valuable Dan, at least valuable Dan. And that's available right now. DanPatrick.com Fritzi suggested a poll question to me. If you're Lane Kiffin, do you want to see Tulane beat your former team, Ole Miss? So if you're Lane Kiffin, you don't say this publicly, but in your head. And Fritz, he gave me two options. Of course, they wouldn't let me coach them. Hey, that's what you get. Or no, I want my players to succeed and not get eliminated early. Todd, how would you vote?

[Todd]

I think publicly you say you want my players to succeed. In a private, honest moment, you would like to see things not go well.

[Dan Patrick]

How about you, Marvin? If you're Lane Kiffin, what do you want to happen for your players?

[Marvin]

You want to see them win maybe just that one game, but not the entire national title.

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton, if you're Lane Kiffin. No. No, I don't want them to lose.

[Paulie]

Paul, depending on your level of ego, deep, deep down, if your level of ego does not want Ole Miss to.

[Dan Patrick]

Advance, I would hope that Lane Kip Kiffin wants those players to succeed. He may not want his Alma or he may not want his former team with the powers that be to be able to succeed, but you can't have it both ways. Now, you can root for the players, but maybe you're not going to root for the people who are in power. But also, what's this say about Lane Kiffin? If they win, they won without him or if they don't win? Well, you couldn't win without me. Yes.

[Todd]

And if reports are true, if you're rooting for these players and sticking up for them, supposedly a number of them voted for him not to coach them, Right? There was a number of reports. So while you want, you're rooting for them and you want them to do well. But some of them, I don't want to say backstabbed you, but they were like, no, we don't need this guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Limb.

[Todd]

Go to lsu.

[Dan Patrick]

The Colonel in Tampa. Hey, Colonel, what's on your mind today?

[Caller/Guest]

Hey, Dan. How you guys doing? I think it's Thursday night. It feels like Thursday Night Football now. Dan, that was a good game.

[Dan Patrick]

Great.

[Caller/Guest]

Hey, listen, I wanted to give you an update. I had. I watched the game at four in the morning because I had a hip replacement done. Interior approach on Wednesday. Highly recommended. Great doctor. You know, Dan, there's so much Pressure on you and I, you know, us athletes of our generation to continue to perform. It's tough. I do not have the luxury of surrounding myself with 12, 13 enhancing athletic performance personnel. So you have 12 and 13 valuable players, Dan, and looking forward to a great weekend of sports and a quick recovery.

[Dan Patrick]

Love you guys.

[Caller/Guest]

And if you can send me a Wagyu burger, I'd love it.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Thank you, Colonel. I don't. How's he talking about. He's talking about you guys and our athletic achievements are. I don't know if we have any. I certainly don't have any. Any in anymore. Yes. Main character energy there.

[Todd]

And he said he doesn't have 12 guys for what. What is like to accomplish what colonel show.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I don't know what the Colonel's doing, but he just had hip surgery or hip replacement surgery. Also, a woman who works with this, Jade, just had hip surgery, and I happened to reach out to her for a different reason, and I caught her right as she came out of surgery, and she's like, hey, I'm on drugs. And I go, oh, my God, you had your hip surgery? And she goes, yes. And I go, all right, I'll catch up with you. She goes, that would be good. Yes. I checked in with her later that day to be like, hey, how'd it go? You okay?

[Paulie]

Whatever.

[Dan Patrick]

And I just got back. I'm so high. Well, she just got out of recovery when I hit her up. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

And what do you say when you have a successful hip surgery?

[Dan Patrick]

Your hip. Hip, hip. Hooray.

[Todd]

Hip, hip, hooray.

[Dan Patrick]

Nailed it. Thank you. Todd.

[Todd]

Seems on a roll.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paul, possible dumb question here. When you have knee replacement surgery or hip replacement surgery, you're not replacing it. Are you gutting out the bone area and resetting it, or what is it exactly?

[Dan Patrick]

You're replacing it, not the bone. They give you a new knee.

[Paulie]

What does that mean for someone who has never had it done?

[Dan Patrick]

And they put in a new hip, like a socket.

[Paulie]

Like the inner socket part is kind of shaved down and redone. Yeah, but not new bone.

[Dan Patrick]

You get like artificial, like prosthetics. Yeah, they. They attach it to the bones.

[Paulie]

Do they take out bone and give it to you?

[Dan Patrick]

Correct. No, they don't.

[Paulie]

Okay.

[Todd]

They don't.

[Dan Patrick]

They don't give it to you. You're not allowed to keep your.

[Paulie]

Can't keep, I think, territorial rights.

[Dan Patrick]

Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach. What's on your mind?

[Caller/Guest]

Adp. I'm also on drugs, but I did not have surgery or any knee but yesterday I just was directing somebody with my hand while I was on with you guys. So I just want to let Seaton know I don't think it's that serious with Joe Burrow. I wasn't really that intense. My hand gesture made my intensity of my voice go up. But I just want to know, do you think that Matthew Stafford's performance last night, even in a loss, kind of helped him solidify the MVP or.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah. No, no. He's winning the MVP. He's winning the MVP. He didn't have Devonte Adams and he threw for 450. I don't think he can lose it. They're going to be in the playoffs and he's been great from start to finish. Josh Allen is making, you know, a charge here, but you got it. You should reward the person who has been the best player this year. And I think if Drake May had beaten Josh Allen, now we have a neck and neck race there for mvp. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

But I think it makes it easier that Stafford's biggest competition is a second or third year player that hasn't done much in the league. If he was a vet, it'd be a different story.

[Dan Patrick]

And it's a good story. Matthew Stafford, mvp. I didn't even know if he was going to be able to last the season and he's been great. And this feels like it might be a career achievement award there. Buddha in San Francisco. Hi, Buddha. No, buddy.

[Caller/Guest]

Let's go, baby.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Caller/Guest]

I just watched the. The live look in from Seaton getting the pie to the face in San Francisco, out in the Presidio where you guys were in 2016. I was in the building, Dan, backstage with the big German and I watched that live. That was so. Man, I, I really look forward to you guys coming out here this year. And seems on fire, by the way, with the pies in the face, man, last night was awesome. Watching that game, a lot of ramifications. I'm looking forward to seeing old Man Rivers this week on Monday night against the Niners. I cannot wait to see how he plays. And I just want to say that that is going to be amazing to watch.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Buddha. Buddha kind of struggled there at the very end trying to find his words. It is weird that Philip Rivers can still play, but Tuatanga Bailoa can't play. Like we're gonna deactivate you. How about that? Philip Rivers. Lewis Riddick from the Mothership. He'll join us coming up. Ryan Leaf, he has the packers and the Bears this weekend. Former quarterback will stop by the studio as well. Updated college football title Odds have that for you coming up, hour two on this meet Friday. Right around the corner.

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[Dan Patrick]

What a matchup we got y'.

[Todd]

All.

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This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit Chance echo drum everybody showing that.

[Marvin]

School pride A game like this?

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[Marvin]

That's a game changer right there.

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[Marvin]

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