Hour 1 – This March Lacked the Usual Madness, Jon Scheyer

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 1 – This March Lacked the Usual Madness, Jon Scheyer
Release Date: March 31, 2025

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March Madness Overview

Timestamp: 15:00 - 15:50

Dan Patrick opens the discussion by reflecting on this year's March Madness, highlighting its divergence from the usual unpredictable nature. Unlike previous tournaments teeming with upsets, this year's Final Four comprises four number one seeds: Houston, Duke, Auburn, and Florida. Patrick expresses a nuanced perspective:

"It's four number one seeds, Houston, Duke, Auburn, Florida. People are disappointed, but you have the four best teams in the country."
— Dan Patrick [16:30]

He acknowledges the lack of mid-major surprises but emphasizes the high quality of the competing teams, suggesting that viewers will still find the tournament engaging despite the absence of Cinderella stories.

Interview with John Shire, Duke Head Coach

Timestamp: 23:17 - 32:08

The highlight of the episode is an in-depth interview with John Shire, Duke's head coach, who discusses his transition from player and assistant coach to leading Duke into the Final Four. Shire shares insights into his coaching philosophy and the challenges of maintaining team continuity in an era where top programs often recruit battle-tested transfer players.

"I have to be myself and wherever that takes us, you know, I can live within the. at the end of the day because that's the only way I'm going to succeed."
— John Shire [24:00]

Shire elaborates on building a team that balances freshman talent with experienced players:

"We're still bringing in really talented, ready-made players that we develop over the course of the year and have big expectations like the guys you had mentioned as freshmen."
— John Shire [25:00]

He reminisces about memorable moments from his coaching career, including the nail-biting finishes and the importance of player maturity during high-pressure games.

"I felt jittery. I felt pressure... I just try to ingrain in them from day one in the preseason of being the hunters, not the hunted, and just going after this thing."
— John Shire [27:10]

The conversation also touches on player development, particularly Cooper Flagg's unselfish playstyle, drawing parallels to NBA star Kevin Love.

"He's part of what makes him so special is him bringing along his teammates and his feel for his passing, like it is an incredible weapon for our team."
— John Shire [31:00]

Patrick and Shire conclude the interview by discussing the expectations for the Final Four and the legacy of coaching greats like John Wooden and Dean Smith.

Cooper Flagg and Player Expectations

Timestamp: 8:00 - 12:00

Earlier in the show, Dan Patrick delves into the topic of young basketball talents, specifically focusing on Cooper Flagg. He addresses the media's perception of Flagg and the burden of expectations placed upon him, comparing his potential career trajectory to that of Kevin Love.

"Maybe he's a Hall of Famer. He's a borderline hall of Famer...It's not fair to him to have those expectations."
— Dan Patrick [10:00]

The discussion includes a brief exchange with Paul Pabst, clarifying that Patrick's intent was not to disparage Love but to highlight the challenges Flagg might face due to high expectations.

"It was about Cooper Flagg and the expectations that Kevin Love has not had a disappointing career. He's probably close to a Hall of Fame career."
— Dan Patrick [11:19]

This segment underscores the delicate balance coaches must maintain in nurturing young talent without overwhelming them with unrealistic expectations.

NFL's Tush Push Controversy

Timestamp: 36:26 - 42:00

Transitioning from college basketball, Patrick discusses the NFL's controversial "Tush Push" play, analyzing its impact on the game and potential regulatory changes.

"It's like the extra point. Nobody's watching Touchdown. You go get a beer, then all of a sudden you move it back..."
— Dan Patrick [40:00]

The conversation critiques the play's predictability and the NFL's efforts to balance entertainment with player safety. Patrick speculates on the future of such plays and their acceptance among fans and players alike.

Yankees' Torpedo Bats Debate

Timestamp: 36:28 - 54:14

An extended discussion ensues about the New York Yankees introducing "torpedo bats," which have a reshaped design aimed at increasing the sweet spot and enhancing hitting performance. The segment features multiple perspectives from hosts and guests, debating the fairness and historical implications of such equipment modifications.

"It's designed to put more wood, more mass concentrate, an area of the bat where a hitter is most likely to hit the ball."
— Seton O'Connor [52:02]

Patrick addresses the MLB's approval of the bats and the potential for other teams to adopt similar designs, sparking a debate on whether this innovation disrupts the traditional integrity of the game.

"You can't go up there with a two by four...It still has to measure 2.61 inches at most in diameter."
— Dan Patrick [53:42]

Critics argue that while the design is within regulations, it gives an inherent advantage, potentially skewing game outcomes and altering the sport's historical fabric.

Best and Worst of the Weekend

Timestamp: 33:38 - 37:07

In the recurring segment, Patrick hosts callers share their personal highlights and disappointments from the weekend's sports events. Notable mentions include Duke's defensive prowess and Yankees' controversies over equipment changes.

"Best to the Duke Blue Devils defense shutting down the Alabama three-point machine...my worst hearing some Yankee haters complaining about the Yankees' new bats."
— Caller Chris [33:47]

Patrick engages with the callers, providing humorous takes and expanding on the topics to entertain the audience.

Play of the Day: Aaron Judge's Triple-Home Run Game

Timestamp: 47:05 - 49:28

Highlighting a standout performance, Patrick celebrates Aaron Judge's achievement of hitting three home runs in a single game, placing him among Yankee legends like Lou Gehrig and Joe DiMaggio.

"Aaron Judge, one of four Yankees to have at least three career games with three or more home runs."
— Dan Patrick [48:06]

The segment praises Judge's prowess and underscores the significance of his feat within the team's rich history.

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Notable Quotes

• Dan Patrick

  "It's four number one seeds, Houston, Duke, Auburn, Florida. People are disappointed, but you have the four best teams in the country."
  [16:30]

• John Shire

  "We're still bringing in really talented, ready-made players that we develop over the course of the year and have big expectations like the guys you had mentioned as freshmen."
  [25:00]

• Dan Patrick

  "Maybe he's a Hall of Famer. He's a borderline hall of famer...It's not fair to him to have those expectations."
  [10:00]

• Seton O'Connor

  "It's designed to put more wood, more mass concentrate, an area of the bat where a hitter is most likely to hit the ball."
  [52:02]

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Conclusions and Insights

• Quality Over Chaos: This year's March Madness may lack the usual unpredictability, but it showcases the top-tier teams, ensuring high-quality competition and engaging games.

• Coaching Philosophy: John Shire emphasizes authenticity in coaching, developing a blend of fresh talent and experienced players to maintain team continuity and performance.

• Player Development: Balancing expectations for young players like Cooper Flagg is crucial to their growth and preventing undue pressure that could hinder their potential.

• Sporting Integrity vs. Innovation: The introduction of redesigned equipment, such as the Yankees' torpedo bats, raises questions about maintaining traditional sports integrity while embracing technological advancements.

• Entertainment vs. Tradition: In both college basketball and the NFL, there's an ongoing tension between enhancing entertainment value and preserving the traditional aspects that define these sports.

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This episode of The Dan Patrick Show provides a thorough examination of the current state of March Madness, insightful discussions with a top-tier college basketball coach, and engaging debates on sports innovations and controversies. Whether you're a die-hard basketball fan or a casual sports enthusiast, the episode offers valuable perspectives and lively conversation.

Transcript

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody ready to go this Monday, Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. John Shire, the Duke head coach, will join us coming up here in about 15 minutes as he advances to the final four, one of eight people as a player and a coach to go to the Final Four. So we'll talk to him coming up. Seth Greenberg of the Mothership and Gilbert Arenas, former NBA all star, will stop by as well. So Florida survives Texas Tech, Duke rolls Bama, Houston rolls Tennessee and Auburn over Michigan State. Say good morning to those watching on Peacock. That's our streaming partner. Download the app if you haven't done so. Our radio affiliates as well. IHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio. As we close out the end of March and March is about madness. It's about chaos. We love the upsets, we love the buzzer beaters, Cinderella stories. But this year it's different. No mid major darlings, no double digit seeds crashing the final four. It's four number one seeds, Houston, Duke, Auburn, Florida. People are disappointed, but you have the four best teams in the country. Imagine any other sport where you go, man, I'm looking for somebody out of nowhere to play for the championship. We do that with March Madness, but you don't do that in most sports. Now the, you know, Arizona Diamondbacks were a nice story. Like we do like those nice stories and we have had incredible upsets. Go back to the miracle Mets in 1969, you know, the jets when they won the super bowl, Super Bowl 3. We like that. But Cinderella stories are fun. But greatness is what we remember. Villanova's buzzer beater, the UCLA dynasty, go back through history, all of those great teams, Duke, unlv, it's not your ideal March Madness. It's not what we, I guess expected. But I think you got the best teams fighting for the title and that still must see tv. I've always said give me madness, give me chaos until the Elite eight and then I want to see the best teams in basketball. Now North Carolina State last year was a wonderful story, great story. Knocked out Duke if you're that good. And I just want to make sure that you complete the mission. If you're a double digit seed, if you're a mid major, that you get a chance to play Butler, got to play for a couple of national titles. I Like that storyline. It's even better if they win the title. But in this case, you have the four seeds. I don't think anybody was surprised. I think those four seeds stood above everybody else the entire tournament. But this is what this is about. The best teams right now. And what you're finding is with the, the blue bloods, the powerhouses, they're taking away the players from the mid. They're, they're almost stealing the mid major's thunder by taking the mid major player. Therefore, the mid major can't make a run because they've wised up finally and said, hm, do we just want to recruit freshmen or do we want to take somebody who's already battle tested? And this is what I've said about John Caliperi for years. John, congratulations. You got another recruiting class that's going to make billions of dollars in the NBA. You need to have some players help out those freshmen because this time of the year you play different, you coach different. And you see that with a lot of these teams. Now, Duke's an anomaly. They have three players who are going to be lottery picks and they're freshmen. But a lot of these other players, you have transfers and you also have juniors and seniors who are providing that much needed leadership here. But yes, March Madness, maybe not the madness, but it's still going to be great to see the four best teams play for the championship. And I don't know if you pose that as a question, like are you disappointed with this year's March Madness? Are you disappointed that we have four seeds, the top seeds, and they're going to play for the championship? I'm not. Do I want to see a little more madness earlier? Yes, I do. And we didn't see that. But once again, you got Florida, you got Duke, you got Houston and Auburn and you're seeing different rosters, but you're also seeing these teams for the most part who do have some players who have played before and maybe they played somewhere else. And I think that's the interesting part of this, is they're taking away the mid major. 8773 DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @dp show point spreads for the the Final four just got them from DraftKings. Florida favored by 2 1/2 against Auburn. Duke is favored by 4 1/2 against Houston and the Dukies are the big favorite here, followed by Florida, then Houston, then Auburn to win it all. Come up the poll question. Play of the day, Stat of the day. All of that forthcoming, you can take advantage of the clearance sale we got [e-mail] Stat of the Day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the DP show operators sitting by to take your phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend this first hour brought to you by Mako. Most cars on the road could use a little tlc. At Mako, they bring your car back to life. Affordable paint jobs, light collision repairs. Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako. One other item I would like to address. Last week we were talking about Cooper Flag and as we always do with great players or young players, we like to do a comp go into a draft. Oh, who do they remind you of? And my point with Cooper Flag is that if he had a career like Kevin Love's career, it might be viewed as a disappointment. 90% of NBA players would sign up for Kevin Love's career. And maybe he's a Hall of Famer. He's a borderline hall of Famer. Started out great and made something of himself. I thought he would be a 14 and 8 guy and he proved me wrong and early. But I was not saying something in a disparaging way about Kevin Love. And we did invite Kevin Love on and he smartly said no need to talk about it. He knew I wasn't taking a shot at him. It's, you know, certain websites, blogs, members of the media that thought I was taking a shot at him. I'm talking about the expectation we're going to put on an 18 year old going into the NBA. Let's lower. Now nobody wants to do this, but let's lower the expectation or be fair to him. The point I was making is he'll be the number one pick. He's going to be viewed as a savior. Kevin Love was not viewed that way. Kevin was a great player who fit in. Now when he stood alone in Minnesota, he put up some great numbers at 30 rebounds in the game. But we found his value when he started to play with LeBron and he won a championship. Cooper Flagg could do all of those things and I think we'll still view him as a disappointment. It's not fair to him to have those expectations. He's not the next Larry Bird. And that's why I said maybe he's the next Kevin Love. And there's nothing wrong with that but the way it was presented and look, I'm the messenger, so maybe I didn't explain it so people in the media could understand what I was Saying this had nothing to do with Kevin Love being a disappointment. It Cooper Flag would be viewed as a disappointment even if he put up great numbers like that. That was the point I was trying to make. But I did say to Fritzi, I said, reach out Kevin. See if he wants to come on. And he said, no. He knew that I was not taking a shot at him. So just want to make sure that I clarified that. I don't want to say it was taken out of context or anything like that. It was what I said. But people chose to look at it differently than what I was saying. It was about Cooper Flag and the expectations that Kevin Love has not had a disappointing career. He's probably close to a Hall of fame career. Yes. Paul.

[Seton O'Connor]

Yeah. We did the post of that clip from Friday show, and on the post it says, quote, if you said his career was going to be like Kevin Love's, would that be a disappointment? Question mark. And probably it would be. What was not included there is the previous 60 seconds where you were talking about comparing Cooper Flag to Larry Bird and how that's overreaching at this point for an 18 year old. So that kind of took the next quote that people didn't see the ramp up of where you mentioned Larry Bird and Flag and kind of pushed it out of context a little bit.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But once again, if people. It's a far better headline. And it got a little bit of traction. I didn't realize it was a thing until Marvin sent it to me. I'm like, oh, they totally misread what I was saying about Cooper Flag and Kevin Love. But we did reach out to Kevin, as we always do. We'll reach out if we said something or somebody wants to respond. But if he wanted to come on and talk about it, great. But, you know, wisely, he chose not to because let's not inflame it any more than maybe what people were already doing. Yes.

[Paul Pabst]

You know, really, the real lesson from this is that we need our social media people to start taking your words out of context so that then we get all of that engagement about your words. Right. Because a lot of posts, a lot of accounts on all these different social media things, they were all getting a ton of engagement off of taking your words out of context. We should just start doing that on your behalf and then you can defend what we posted.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Yeah, yeah, thank you.

[Paul Pabst]

That's where we really missed.

[Dan Patrick]

I didn't give the starting lineup. It's our Fab 5, Flab 5, the King of comedy. Fritzi, you Got Seaton here, you got Marvin, Paulie, yours truly. And hey, I'm part of the Flab five. I mean, Seaton's the one. Him and Paulie, they look, you know.

[Paul Pabst]

Sinewy, still kind of skinny, fat.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I know. That's the bummer. That is the bummer when you're like, yeah, I'm looking, I'm looking good, I'm losing weight. Then all of a sudden you go, yeah, except for the belly.

[Paul Pabst]

But other than that, I'm down almost 30 pounds and still look terrible. How did that work? Yeah, how did that work?

[Dan Patrick]

How. How about a poll question today? Seaton? Yeah.

[Paul Pabst]

Would you rather be not? Well, we could go with an easy one. Your favorite right now to win the tournament. We'll just go with the four left.

[Dan Patrick]

How about. Are you disappointed with this year's tournament?

[Paul Pabst]

Well, here's why. I think a lot of people are going to say that they are. And then the reason that they say they're going to be disappointed is going to directly contradict the way that the tournament has actually played out.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paul Pabst]

People's big complaint about basketball right now is you don't know any of the players, you don't know where anybody went. Everybody's moving all over the place. What the hell, I thought, would I. And then their big complaint about this year is where's all the Cinderellas? Where's all the teams that came out.

[Dan Patrick]

Of nowhere, all the players?

[Paul Pabst]

I don't know, where's all this stuff? So like, it directly conflicts with the line of thinking.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I do. I love the chaos and the madness. I do. But I also just want, I want to watch good basketball, that's all. And if there's, there's no upsets, no buzzer beaters. Okay, do I think this is going to be the tradition? Is this going to be a pattern or is it a one off or maybe back to back years where chalk is going to be up there at the top. I, I'll go back to what I said initially. The, you know, the big schools are just picking off these players from the mid majors, preventing the mid majors from making a run like this and being a part of the madness and the chaos.

[Seton O'Connor]

Yes, Paulie, I do miss which watching a team get a week of notoriety. Was it Saint Peters in 2022 and everyone talked about their coach and these different players or Porter, Moser and Loyola 5 years ago they got all that in the Sister Jean. It feels like that is missing. It's not a complaint, but just. It's a storyline. You're used to.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but I'm fine with that. When you have those stories early in the tournament, you go, okay, let's have this guy on. That's a cute story here. That's how the kid from NC State on, you know, is he going to play football? You know, that's all great, but you can't manufacture this to say, how do we come up with more buzzer beater chaos subsets? These are the best teams in college basketball. From start to finish, it felt like these were the four best teams in college basketball. I'm okay with it.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes, Todd, the Cinderellas did bow out way too early. After a couple rounds, we held onto Colorado State very tightly, very briefly. That was like the last one standing. And even they kind of left early. And it's great to have the best teams at the end, but would have been fun a few more rounds of a couple Cinderella.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Florida survived. Texas Tech. Man, did I have some problems with the coaching with Texas Tech down the stretch. There's one guy on the floor who can beat you for Florida. Walter Clayton Jr III. That's it. Now you got some contributions from the other kid. Halk. Walter Clayton Jr. The third. The only guy, take the ball out of his hands, let somebody else beat you. That's all this is. This is simple coaching 101. Yes. Hey, we got beat by some guy who's not normally in this position. Okay? I'm not gonna let that guy who I know is the guy who can beat me. Yes, Marvin, this is one of those times where, you know what? I'm not too proud to play boxing one. Absolutely. Face guard him. Do what Duke did against Sears at Alabama. You know, when you put a little pressure on the perimeter, it's amazing how poorly you can shoot. BYU is like, okay, go ahead, go ahead. We're in the zone. We got our hands up. Duke's like, no, we're going to force you off the dribble. Go ahead. See if you can go inside. Speaking of Duke, their head coach joins us next year on the Dan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino And Rich, we talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kobe Nonrich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich. You don't need a game to have a party. You don't need a game to have a tailgate. What you do need for both of them is Miller Light. 50 years. 50 year anniversary. And I said, you know, it's Miller time. And that means. Means it's time to go to Lambeau. We're going to drafts. At the drafts. It's a taste you can depend on. You have a great beer, trusted by beer lovers for five decades. You have the malted barley for rich balanced toffee note flavors, iconic golden color. You pour that and you go, man, that looks good, tastes good. 96 calories, just 3.2 grams of carbs per 12 ounces. Miller time. Always good time. It's a great time for me. The original light beer since 1975, still iconic after 50 years. So Miller Lite, great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com Patrick. You'll find the delivery options near you. Or you can pick up Miller Lite just about anywhere that sells beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Here's to Miller Light.

[Gilbert Arenas]

There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation.

[Dan Patrick]

It's terrible, terrible dirt.

[Gilbert Arenas]

Yazoo clay eats everything. So things that get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not. In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.

[Dan Patrick]

7,000 bodies out there or more, all.

[Gilbert Arenas]

Former patients of the old state asylum. And nobody knew they were there.

[John Shire]

It was my family's mystery.

[Gilbert Arenas]

But in this corner of the South. It's not just the soil that keeps secrets.

[Dan Patrick]

Nobody talks about it. Nobody has any information.

[Gilbert Arenas]

When you peel back the layers of Mississippi's Yazoo Clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.

[Paul Pabst]

The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that.

[Gilbert Arenas]

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[Margie Murphy]

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[Gilbert Arenas]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

We'll get to your phone calls coming up, as we always do on Monday, best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. I know what he liked. John Shire, the third season Dukehead basketball coach moving into the Final Four. You've been there as a player, you've been there as an assistant coach. What's it like to be there as a head coach, Dan?

[John Shire]

Well, it's great to be with you, you know, couldn't be more excited about this opportunity. I'll feel it, you know, I'll feel it in person in San Antonio, but to be honest with you, it feels surreal, you know, like it's the promised land. Obviously, we're hungry for more, but couldn't be more excited by this opportunity.

[Dan Patrick]

You always want to be the guy who follows the guy who follows the legend. I'll go back to John Wooden and, you know, you didn't get that you got the opportunity to coach, but you're following the legend in Mike Shashevsky. I don't know if you did research or talk to people who were the ones following the legend as opposed to following the person following the legend.

[John Shire]

Well, you know what, Dan? I did more research on successions than think you could imagine, you know, especially in sport. Right. But even in business. And you? I tried to find connections about, you know, really why, you know, others weren't as successful and what went wrong and because in most cases, it wasn't about what went right. You know, it's, it's been, it's been Very difficult. And I think the, the first and most important thing I found was to be really connected with, you know, the, the former coach or the transition. And for me, you know, the fact that Coach K and I were still as close as could be and the, the, the succession, me and him were so connected about what had to change and what had to improve and what I had to do. But then obviously you're not going to win if you try to be somebody else. And so I had to come to terms very quickly with I'm not Coach K, not going to try to be him, I'm not going to try to coach like him. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be myself and wherever that takes us, you know, I can live within the, at the end of the day because that's the only way I'm going to succeed.

[Dan Patrick]

Is there a new philosophy on how to build a team in college basketball? You, you guys might be the anomaly. You got three freshmen are going to be lottery picks, but you're seeing a lot of these teams that a couple of freshmen, but it's really about getting these, you know, transfer guys or guys who are going to stay for three or four years.

[John Shire]

Yeah, I think it has changed a lot. I think the biggest difference is now you have to build your team based on year to year. You know, it's, and look, it's. When I played, this is only 15 years ago when I played the starting lineup in my group, we had over 100 starting game, over 100 games together. And look, the team we're playing in Houston, Houston has great experience together but for the most part it is year to year. I think for me the challenge is trying to find some level of continuity which I think still can be done in a different way. We're still bringing in really talented, ready made players that we develop over the course of the year and have big expectations like the guys you, you know, you had mentioned as freshmen now. But I think we, we do it our own way and that's what I'm proud of. You know, I think it's not going to be cookie cutter. We need this amount of transfers, returners, freshmen. I think it's based on the, the level of readiness that the freshmen we, we recruit have and then also the returners we can possibly bring back. And I think as you look at our roster, Dan, the combination of the CEON James, the Malik Browns, the Mason Gillis with the Tyrese Proctor and Caleb Foster, well that helps the freshman having some level of experience with them.

[Dan Patrick]

How would you do Against Proctor in a shooting contest, I would beat him.

[John Shire]

You beat me in the game, but I'm gonna beat any of our guys. Still, I think, Dan, how do you.

[Dan Patrick]

Coach a freshman as opposed to a junior or senior?

[John Shire]

I, I just think for these guys, there's a level of they need to always hear the truth. You, you have to hit them right between the eyes, but also at the same time, you have to give them really good confidence because they're going through something they've never experienced before. You know, even I'm, I'm like, I'm so impressed with the maturity these guys have. Playing in my first NCAA tournament game, you know, I remember how I felt and these guys haven't acted like it's.

[Dan Patrick]

How did you feel?

[John Shire]

I felt, you know, jittery. You know, I felt, you know, pressure. You know, we are six seed playing VCU as an 11 seed, and you just. I think there's a tendency, Dan, to, when you're the higher seed, to play not to lose instead of playing to win. And so I've tried to just ingrain in them from day one in the preseason of being the hunters, you know, not the hunted, and just going after this thing. And they've embraced that and they've done that, but I think with the freshmen, just to continue to give them confidence at the same time of trying to prepare them for things that they hadn't seen before. And that's what I've tried to do.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Duke's head coach, John Shire, joining us on the program. Take me back to the Butler national title game when you won. Gordon Hayward wasn't your guy, was he? You weren't.

[John Shire]

He was my guy in terms of me guarding him. Yeah, yeah. I was ahead on the play that he got the let. So I think the people always think about the last half court shot, which is right there. The one before that he had. We are under out of bounds. We were up by one and he had an isolation play at the top of the key and he ended up shooting about like a 15 footer from the baseline. I thought it was going in, Dan. I was right under the basketball hit. Just probably if it's an inch shorter, it goes in, it goes long. So that shot to me was, was the one that scared me. I was already thinking about the, the how we were going to win with the timeout or what we were going to do. But the half court shot was something I'll never forget. And I, I just, I felt it was off at the last second. I was ahead on the play. But. But thank God he missed it.

[Dan Patrick]

If he hit that shot, he becomes Leitner.

[John Shire]

Yeah. You know what? And probably, I don't know if I'm the head coach to Duke. I don't know if I'm. I think the whole. I think my whole life is different. I think there's a lot of things that could be different from, From. From that shot.

[Dan Patrick]

But do you explain to your kids, and I don't know if you feel this, but the late New Years, even J.J. redick, people hated Duke. Yeah, it doesn't feel that way. This is. This is a team that people may root for, maybe not root against, but they're not, you know, they're. They're like, hey, Cooper Flag looks great. I mean, you got it seems like a fun team. They play, you know, great offense and defense. Are you guys embraceable?

[John Shire]

I sure hope so. And look, it's funny because I think we are always embraceable, but like you said, I think it's a different feeling and I can't explain why that is. I hope it's the fact that you have a group of really talented players that really embrace playing the right way. You know, it's led to some beautiful offense and they're tough, you know, they're not afraid of anything. So I think that combination maybe has been received well. But again, not. J.J. redick was the same.

[Steve Covino]

I don't know.

[John Shire]

I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.

[Dan Patrick]

Have you had the conversation with Cooper Flag about coming back?

[John Shire]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Is there going to be a conversation?

[John Shire]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[John Shire]

Although I can dream about that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, you can.

[John Shire]

I just, you know, I think that's all it is in this case. I think it's a dream, and I think he's got to take the next dream in his life and be the top pick in the NBA draft and start his professional career.

[Dan Patrick]

Before I let you go, I remember talking to Steve Nash and he said during his career with Phoenix, coaches told him he was too unselfish. There are times where I see Cooper Flag maybe too unselfish. The Phoenix Suns had to tell Steve Nash to shoot more. Is Cooper Flag sort of in that it seems like he's really, really engaged to get everybody involved. And maybe I'm not going to say the detriment, you're here at the Final Four, but is. Are there times when you want him to be a little more selfish?

[John Shire]

I think you hit the nail on the head with him, Dan, because he's part of his. What makes him so special? Is him bringing along his teammates and his feel for his passing, like it is an incredible weapon for our team. But also he can want to defer at times to get them going and word our best. He's at our best when he's in complete attack mode. Teammates will get shots from that. But that's something I have to. It's probably the biggest thing we have to get on him about and just making sure he's not deferring and continually just looking to dominate, which he can.

[Dan Patrick]

Good luck in the Final Four, John. Great to connect with you again. Thank you.

[John Shire]

Thanks for having me. Appreciate you.

[Dan Patrick]

That's John Shire. So Bob Knight played in a Final Four. Coached in Final Four. He played in, I think three Final Fours. Coached in five or six Final Fours. Dean Smith, he played in a couple of Final Fours and then with North Carolina, I think he was in eight or nine Final Fours. Billy Donovan at Providence played in a Final Four and then at Florida, he won a couple of national titles as well. Hubert Davis at North Carol. I'm talking about modern era. So John Shire is part of that modern era with Hubert Davis and Billy Donovan, to a certain degree. Then you have Bob Knight and Dean Smith part of the eight men who have played in a Final Four. Coached in a Final Four. Yes.

[Seton O'Connor]

Paulie, after that interview, if anyone in the media, us included, wants to discuss Cooper Flag coming back for another year, it's a waste of your time.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, but I had to ask.

[Seton O'Connor]

No, it was a great question I had to ask.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, because, you know, that's one of those where, you know, the story comes out later this week. You know, I got to sit down. Cooper and I are going to sit down and talk about his future. No, no need to have that conversation. No, I have not. No.

[Paul Pabst]

You know, Dan, that's something that we're waiting to see. We need to get through the tournament here for. No, I have not.

[Dan Patrick]

But what he did, what he said was. What he said earlier is you got to be honest with these kids. And that's his approach. I'm just honest with them, whether it's a freshman or a senior. Chris in Syracuse leads us off today.

[Paul Pabst]

Hey, guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, Chris. Hey, thanks, man. I thought that was me. I'm like, I didn't say that yet.

[Paul Pabst]

Very good.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, Dan, I got a best and worst to throw at you in a mock headline. My best to the Duke Blue Devils defense shutting down the Alabama three point machine. I think they held him to eight and only gave up 65 points. And my worst hearing some Yankee haters complaining about the Yankees new bats that.

[Seton O'Connor]

Have never been used.

[Dan Patrick]

The torpedo bat. And Aaron Judge isn't even using it. And off of that, I got a Fritzy mock headline for the Yankee haters. Okay. In Cortez's return to Yankee Stadium, he gets hit hard with a corkage fee as Yankees go for a Ferris Bueller. Nine. Nine.

[Paul Pabst]

Nine home runs, nine times.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Chris. Chris. And Syracuse legend. Legend. Yeah. I was going to talk about the Yankee bats, and you know that baseball's approved it. If this was the Marlins doing this and be like, that's a cute story. Oh, good for them. But there is that moment of, damn, have they been hiding these bats? Oh, that's right. They had to get approval by Major League Baseball. It's not like a corked bat where you're trying to hide the bat. They went up there, and there's only a couple of players on the Yankees who are using them. But it certainly did help them over the weekend. Hey, here's my first pitch. Home run. Here's my next pitch. Home run. Here's my third pitch of the game. Home run. And then you got Aaron Judge saying, I don't need those bats. Everybody can use these bats if they want to. It's not like the. The brotherly shove or something where we feel like, hey, they're getting away with something. By the way, I think the push, tush, tush, push is in trouble. I think that's in trouble. I think it's on the chopping block with the competition committee and the owners getting together. They'll vote on it tomorrow. Mark my words. You can take away the brotherly shove. You still are not going to be able to stop the Eagles when it comes to the quarterback sneak. Okay? The offensive line can still do what they've always done, and you have a quarterback who has more leg strength than probably any other player in the NFL except for his running back, Saquon Barkley. That power and that great offensive line, they'll still be successful. But I think that we're going to go into next season without that. I think the push, tush, tush push is gone. But they'll be voting on it tomorrow morning.

[Paul Pabst]

Yes, Seaton, that actually brings us to another poll question suggestion.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh.

[Paul Pabst]

If I said the topics are the tush push and nose wiping, what are we talking about, a kindergarten class or the NFL?

[Dan Patrick]

That's where the teacher says, hey, hey, boys, knock it off. Stop with that and don't wipe your nose.

[Paul Pabst]

I'm, like, brushing my teeth, going over, like, things like, all right, what do we want to make sure that we talk about today? I'm like, football. Anything happen?

[Dan Patrick]

Football.

[Paul Pabst]

Well, you got the nose wipe. Still got the tush push. Like, what the hell is this? What the hell am I talking about? Is this football or is this like, pre K? Like, okay, kids.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, Jimmy, stop pushing.

[Paul Pabst]

Tommy, no more with the tush push, okay? And if we're wiping our nose, we do it in a tissue, not with our fingers, okay?

[Dan Patrick]

Come on, Skippy, you're better than that. But this has to do with a CD Lamb celebration. That, I guess is some kind of acknowledgement to the bloods.

[Paul Pabst]

Some type of bloods slip situation here.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, and I'm going, okay, sure. But it does sound like something that a, you know, a first grade teacher would be saying, you know, to her kids, you know. Tommy, stop wiping your nose. Hey, you two guys stop with pushing each other.

[Paul Pabst]

Push, tushes. We don't wipe our nose.

[Dan Patrick]

Gus in la. Hi, Gus. Best and worst of the weekend.

[Steve Covino]

Good morning, Mr. Patrick. Hope you and the boys had a great weekend. Best of the weekend. Even though we're shorthand my lady Trojans surviving to go on to the elite eight. I know it's going to be a tall task to get rid of Paige Beckers and Yukon tonight. I was looking forward to that rematch between her and juju, but I guess we'll never get it.

[Dan Patrick]

But this is why they scheduled this. This was going to be the matchup that we were pretty much guaranteed of Connecticut, usc, juju Watkins versus Paige Beckers. That's why people go, well, why would you do it that way? They wanted to ensure that these two teams met. It's just like LSU against Caitlin Clark. They wanted to make sure they met. And if juju doesn't get hurt, imagine the buildup to this game. Paige coming off 40 points and you're going against the next great player in college basketball. But. Yeah, I interrupted you, Gus. But it's tcu, Texas, Yukon, usc, South Carolina, UCLA already in. What else do you have?

[Steve Covino]

No worries about that, sir. And then you guys kind of already took it, you know, took the wind out of my sails with the whole thing. Because we're seeing two interesting parallels happening right now with the toast push that may or may not be banned. And then the Yankee bats. Will we see the same type of like, you know, we already see the brewers kind of like raise their arms up and in like. Objection. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. These bats. These bats. What the hell's going on? Will we see the same type of you know, reaction with it. Will. Will the Minnesota Twins or the Red Sox come out and be like, we gotta protest this. This has gotta be illegal.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But everybody can do the tushbush. And everybody apparently can get these torpedo bats. Great to hear from you guys. So the bat rules aren't really complicated. The bat shall be a smooth, round stick, not more than 2.61 inches in diameter and at the thickest part and not more than 42 inches in length. The bat shall be one piece of solid wood. Goes on to say that there may be a cupped indentation up to one and a quarter inches in depth, two inches wide and at least one inch diameter. So that's it. And it's a former Yankee who posted online that it was a former Yankee front office staffer who now works for the Marlins who develop this torpedo barrel bat. So it adds more mass to the bat sweet spot. Okay, everybody can use this. It's. It might be one of those of, hey, everybody can do the tush push. But not everybody has that quarterback and that offensive line. Everybody can use the torpedo bats, but you might not have the players who were able to do what the Yankees did. Yes, Todd.

[Todd Fritz]

So you can reshape the bat. Obviously, a pitcher can't reshape the ball, but the very least, they should be able to go back to putting stuff on it, scuff it, put Vaseline on it, whatever you want to do. If they're able to reshape a bat, the pitcher needs to be able to have an extra advantage, too.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, no, no, no. You don't compound this by adding to it.

[Todd Fritz]

They're altering.

[Dan Patrick]

There's nothing illegal.

[Todd Fritz]

You can't alter the look of a baseball. You can't change the shape in the.

[Dan Patrick]

Hand of a pitcher. Illegal toddler. To do that.

[Todd Fritz]

I think you should be able to put stuff on the ball. They're playing with the bat. They're. The pitchers should play with the ball.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul Pabst]

And they kind of already can do certain things to the ball.

[Dan Patrick]

They. They do scuff it up a little bit there.

[John Shire]

Yeah.

[Paul Pabst]

And I mean, there's like. I know there's rules about when you go to your hat and you go to this and whatever and rosin, blah, blah, all that, but there is some stuff that you can do to it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. They are getting. Spin rate is up. Yes.

[Seton O'Connor]

Paul, I'm not going to get as upset as Fritzy, but when I saw the bat, it looked illegal. It looks wrong. The look of it doesn't match baseball.

[Dan Patrick]

But you're not hiding a corked bat.

[Seton O'Connor]

No, no. It's clearly approved by the league.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you think baseball went, hey, hey, Commissioner, look at this. Yankees. I imagine if the Astros did this.

[Paul Pabst]

It'S the only way to make it more of a story. There's, like, two franchises that if they did this, it would be a story, and it's the Yankees and the Astros.

[Dan Patrick]

Or if the Dodgers did it, they'd go, oh, they're spending more money on, you know, MIT scientists who were.

[Paul Pabst]

See, that's how smart they are. That's how smart the Dodgers are. They look, they're looking to the future, okay? They got a lot of money invested in the future. Look at what.

[Dan Patrick]

That's great. More phone calls coming up. Best and worst of the weekend. Our play of the day is next. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

[Gilbert Arenas]

There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation.

[Dan Patrick]

It's terrible, terrible dirt.

[Gilbert Arenas]

Yazoo clay eats everything, so things that get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not. In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.

[Dan Patrick]

7,000 bodies out there or more, all.

[Gilbert Arenas]

Former patients of the old state asylum, and nobody knew they were there.

[John Shire]

It was my family's mystery.

[Gilbert Arenas]

But in this corner of the south, it's not just the soil that keeps secrets.

[Dan Patrick]

Nobody talks about it. Nobody has any information.

[Gilbert Arenas]

When you peel back the layers of Mississippi's Yazoo Clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.

[Paul Pabst]

The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that.

[Gilbert Arenas]

I'm Larison Campbell. Listen to under yazukle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Michael K.]

Prohibition. It's no secret that banning alcohol didn't stop people from living it up in the 1920s.

[Gilbert Arenas]

When we're five years into prohibition, the government is starting to go, okay, this isn't working.

[Michael K.]

In fact, you might even say it backfired spectacularly. I'm Ed Helms, and on season three of my podcast, Snafu, we're taking you back to the 1920s and the tale of Formula 6. Because what you probably don't know about Prohibition is that American citizens were dying in massive numbers due to poisoned liquor. And all along, an unlikely duo was trying desperately to stop the corruption behind it.

[Seton O'Connor]

They were like superhero crusaders turning the.

[Dan Patrick]

Page on a system that didn't work.

[Seton O'Connor]

Work wasn't fair and was corrupt.

[Michael K.]

So how did Prohibition's war on alcohol go so off the rails that the government wound up poisoning its own people? To find out, listen and subscribe to snafu on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Margie Murphy]

In 2020, a group of young women in a tidy suburb of New York City found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.

[Gilbert Arenas]

Someone was posting photos.

[Dan Patrick]

It was just me naked. Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts on my body. Parts that looked exactly like my own. I wanted to throw up.

[Margie Murphy]

I wanted to scream. It happened in Levittown, New York. But reporting the series took us through the darkest corners of the Internet and to the front lines of a global battle against deepfake pornography.

[Jorge Cham]

This should be illegal, but what is this?

[Margie Murphy]

This is a story about a technology that's moving faster than the law and about vigilantes trying to stem the tide. I'm Margie Murphy. And I'm Olivia Carville. This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts, Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jorge Cham]

Have you ever wondered, if your pet is lying to you, why is my.

[Dan Patrick]

Cat not here and I go in and she's eating my lunch?

[Jorge Cham]

Or if hypnotism is real, you will use the suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control. But what's inside a black hole?

[Dan Patrick]

Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe.

[Jorge Cham]

Well, we have answers for you in the new I Heart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Cham, as we tackle questions you've always wanted to know the answer to about animals, space, our brains and our bodies. Questions like, can you survive being cryogenically frozen?

[Dan Patrick]

This is experimental. This may never work for you.

[Jorge Cham]

What's a quantum computer?

[Dan Patrick]

It's not just a faster computer. It performs in a fundamentally different way.

[Jorge Cham]

Do you really have to wait 30 minutes after eating before you can go swimming? It's not really a safety issue.

[Dan Patrick]

It's more of a comfort issue.

[Jorge Cham]

We'll talk to experts, break it down, and give you easy to understand explanations to fascinating scientific questions. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to science stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some interesting folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like Chairman and CEO of Health Beauty Tarang Amin.

[Jorge Cham]

The way I approach risk is constantly try things and actually make it okay to fail.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm sitting down with legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel. I wanted a way to do something that I loved for the rest of my life. We're also hearing how leaders brought their businesses out of unprecedented times, like Stephane Bonsell, CEO of Moderna. It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Gilbert Arenas]

Oh my God.

[Dan Patrick]

The Play of the Day this is the play of the Check this out. It's the Judge swung on high fly ball deep center field. Going back, Mitchell on the track.

[Michael K.]

Goodbye.

[Dan Patrick]

Three home run day for Aaron Judge. Two more on the board for the Yankees.

[Todd Fritz]

It's 16 Ford New York in the fourth inning.

[Dan Patrick]

Courtesy of the Yankees Radio Network. Dave Sims on the call. Aaron Judge, one of four Yankees to have at least three career games with three or more home runs. He joins Lou Gehrig, Alex Rodriguez and Joe DiMaggio. That is your Play of the Day. Play of the Day brought to you by tirerack.com it's the way tire buying should be. It's really simple. You need tires. Go to tirerack.com Full lineup of Continental Tires Special offers free road hazard protection. They'll ship them fast. Free overnight. You usually ask about mobile tire installation. Tirerack.com the way tire Buying should Be the big Yankee controversy with the Torpedo bats. Michael K. The longtime Yankee announcer, talked about it.

[Todd Fritz]

Now you see the shape of Chisholm's bat.

[Dan Patrick]

It's got a big barrel on it.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, it's actually a little bit lower than the barrel. The Yankee front office, the analytics department did a study on on Anthony Volpe and every single ball it seemed like he hit on the label. He didn't hit any on the barrel. So they had bats made up where they moved a lot of the wood into the label. So the harder part of the bat is going to actually strike the ball.

[Dan Patrick]

Weird way to hit. Going up there expecting to get jammed and putting the meat of the bat towards the label. It allow you to wait a little bit longer. Yeah. Your weight. All right, okay. But anybody could do this. And the person who did come up with this is with the Miami Marlins. Now, I don't know if baseball, I don't know if they have to have a press conference. I don't know if the commissioner comes on a show and says, hey, you know, we knew about this, we had to approve this, we're fine with this. I don't know if this is one of, hey, they're getting an unfair advantage. Okay? But if everybody can do it, goes back to the Tush push. Everybody can do it. Nobody could do it as well as the Eagles. Now, as I've said before, this is really simple. Just don't let somebody stand behind the quarterback and block the quarterback into the line, into the defense, into the end zone. That's all. They're trying to use data that talks about safety. You know, the NFL is in the entertainment business. The, the play itself is not entertaining and it's predictable. And they don't like this. It's like the extra point. Nobody's watching Touchdown. You go get a beer, then all of a sudden you move it back and all of a sudden it's like, hey, like this is now must see tv, the kickoff. They're trying to figure out how we can do this where we don't have data that talks about all the injuries because they don't have that. They don't have the injury data for the Tush push. They're trying to do that, but they don't have it because if they, if they would cite that, then this goes away. But they don't have that. It's like the onside kick. They're trying to bring it back, but you can only use it if you're trailing. And normally when you're using it, you're trailing. Just here's a heads up. Only in a Super bowl, maybe, but, you know, if you want to have a full announcement, okay, we're going to have an onside kick, but it's one of the great plays in the NFL. It doesn't work very often, but when it does, it's spectacular. And how many players are involved in the onside kick, like the actual collision? Six, maybe eight. Okay. It's one side of the field. You can only have a certain number of players on each side of the kicker. And now I think they're trying to bring that back. They're trying to bring the kickoff back as well because they're in the entertainment business. Yeah. Paulie.

[Seton O'Connor]

Going back to the torpedo bats, I'm on MLB.com and they said they were designed to put more wood, more mass concentrate, an area of the bat where a hitter is most likely to hit the ball. So basically they reshaped it to put more wood in the barrel area and have more chances for hard hits. Maybe this isn't unfair to other teams, it's unfair to history. Because if a generation ago you didn't have access to these bats, bats were traditional for really 100 years.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But there's a lot of things that weren't available 100 years ago, 50 years ago.

[Seton O'Connor]

But if you make a bat that drastically increases either power or connection, that seems unfair.

[Dan Patrick]

But it can only be a certain width. It can only be a certain size. Like you can't go up there with a two by four.

[Seton O'Connor]

It basically increases your sweet spot. Almost like a driver, you know, when you want to hit a driver and they have the, you know the terminology, the sweet spot.

[Dan Patrick]

It's like that the, the bat cannot be more than 2.61 inches in diameter. So no matter what you're doing, you can take away some of the mass at the top of the bat and bottom of the bat and put it in the middle. It still has to measure 2.61 inches at most in diameter. So it's, it's not like I'm. I'm putting a piece of luggage there. And it's, it just looks weird because now if the bat stayed that way the entire length of it, so the, the sweet spot, but it extended to the end of the bat, then nobody would have a problem with it because it would look like a normal bat. Yes.

[Paul Pabst]

And I think over the course of baseball, bats have changed many times. Right. Like even didn't say Barry Bonds, they started using a different type of wood.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paul Pabst]

That was used previously before. That's why you saw so many broken bats. But they could swing it faster and get, you know, a certain amount of connection. So reinventing the bat isn't necessarily something that just happened. It's happened many times.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

And I think it's birch now. They seem to settle on every once in a while. They'll be like, you know, the new wood that they're using and then it'll be. I think birch is the new one. Yes, Todd.

[Todd Fritz]

I think the problem is also because it's such a visual thing, if you change the type of wood, you're not really necessarily looking at what's inside or what it's made of. But once you see a weird shape that you're not used to after so many years, like why now, all of a sudden, are we reshaping the bat?

[Dan Patrick]

More on March Madness with Seth Greenberg from the mothership. Our good buddy Gilbert Arenas, former NBA All Star. He'll stop by a little bit later on as well. 8773-DP-SHoVE Email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle it DP Show we're one hour in the books. Two more to go on this Monday.

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Margie Murphy]

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[Jorge Cham]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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