Hour 1 – TJ Watt Gets Paid, Lloyd Howell Steps Down

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1: TJ Watt Gets Paid, Lloyd Howell Steps Down

Introduction In the July 18, 2025 episode of The Dan Patrick Show titled "Hour 1 – TJ Watt Gets Paid, Lloyd Howell Steps Down," hosts Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and Lee DeLapp delve into significant developments in the NFL, notably T.J. Watt's substantial contract extension and the resignation of Lloyd Howell, the Executive Director of the NFL Players Association (NFLPA). The episode offers in-depth analysis, humorous banter, and insightful commentary on these pivotal moments in the league.

T.J. Watt's New Contract The conversation kicks off with a detailed discussion about T.J. Watt's groundbreaking contract extension. Brady Quinn announces, “We got a new deal. Got an extension. It is here. Domino has dropped” ([11:22]). The hosts break down the financial specifics, highlighting that Watt’s deal is a three-year contract worth $123 million, making him the highest-paid non-quarterback in NFL history with an annual salary of $41 million ([11:36], [11:43]).

Jonas Knox raises questions about the structure of the deal: “Why isn't T.J. Watt guaranteed?” ([11:47]). The hosts analyze the implications of Watt’s contract, comparing it to Micah Parsons’ recent $35 million deal ([17:21]). Brady Quinn remarks, “He puts T.J. Watt as the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. $41 million a year he's going to get” ([11:47]).

Implications for the NFL and Other Players The discussion shifts to the broader impact of Watt’s contract on the NFL, particularly concerning the Cincinnati Bengals' ability to secure similar deals for their players. Brady Quinn suggests that the Bengals may struggle to match Watt’s offer, implying that this could set a new benchmark for defensive players: “The Cincinnati Bengals are the exact opposite. [...] They are the Rob Parker of the NFL” ([13:48]).

Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn speculate on future contracts, debating whether other players like Micah Parsons will receive comparable deals. Quinn highlights the timing and market dynamics, suggesting that teams may now have a clearer understanding of the financial landscape following Watt’s hefty extension.

Live Bet Jesus: A Lighthearted Interlude Amidst the serious financial discussions, the hosts engage in a humorous segment about a figure known as "Live Bet Jesus." Brady Quinn shares an anecdote about a past incident involving Live Bet Jesus making successful betting picks live on air: “Live Bet Jesus made a pick and like most of his picks, it hit and won on the air and on a live sporting event” ([04:25]).

Jonas Knox and Lee DeLapp humorously critique Live Bet Jesus’s betting prowess, with Knox warning listeners to "fade him as much as you possibly can" due to his unreliable track record ([05:19]). This segment provides a brief comedic relief from the intense sports discussions.

Lloyd Howell's Resignation and NFLPA Challenges The latter half of the episode focuses on the resignation of Lloyd Howell from his role as Executive Director of the NFLPA. Brady Quinn narrates Howell’s departure, questioning whether it was due to undisclosed conflicts of interest, such as his ties with the Carlyle Group: “was hiding stuff from the players? Wasn't the, the conflict of interest that he was working with a private equity firm” ([30:07]).

Jonas Knox offers a critical analysis of the NFLPA’s internal issues, arguing that Howell’s resignation is symptomatic of deeper problems within the players' union. He states, “This is a moment where the NFLPA, the players union, needs to look in the mirror collectively” ([30:49]). The hosts discuss the necessity for the NFLPA to rebuild trust among players and improve its representation capabilities, especially compared to other major sports leagues like the NBA and MLB.

Brady Quinn highlights the diversity in player education and understanding within the union, emphasizing the need for better education and communication: “In some instances, you don't have to be a bookworm or a scholar of sorts to be a professional football player” ([16:50]).

Reactions and Insights The hosts express skepticism about Howell’s legacy and the future leadership of the NFLPA. They speculate on potential successors and the challenges that Don Davis, the interim Executive Director, might face in restoring credibility: “Don's awesome. He's been with the PA for a long time. He's trusted by players” ([33:00]).

Jonas Knox further critiques the hiring process that brought Howell into the position, suggesting that it may have been influenced by power dynamics and lack of proper vetting: “the process... now it looks even more shady and it looks like power grabs by different people” ([35:12]).

Conclusion The episode wraps up with a reaffirmation of the significance of these developments for the NFL landscape. Brady Quinn underscores the critical juncture at which both T.J. Watt’s contract and Lloyd Howell’s resignation place the league: “We're not hopping on that [T.J. Watt's contract]." ([13:52]).

Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn conclude with thoughts on the necessity for the NFLPA to evolve and for the league to adapt to new financial realities, ensuring fair representation and competitive compensation for players. The hosts leave listeners contemplating the future dynamics between players, the union, and team management.

Notable Quotes

• Brady Quinn on T.J. Watt’s contract: “It puts T.J. Watt as the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. $41 million a year he's going to get” ([11:47]).
• Jonas Knox on NFLPA's challenges: “This is a moment where the NFLPA, the players union, needs to look in the mirror collectively” ([30:49]).
• Brady Quinn on Live Bet Jesus: “Live Bet Jesus made a pick and like most of his picks, it hit and won on the air and on a live sporting event” ([04:25]).

Final Thoughts This episode of The Dan Patrick Show provides a comprehensive exploration of significant NFL developments, balancing in-depth analysis with engaging dialogue. Listeners gain valuable insights into player contracts, union dynamics, and the broader implications for the league's future. The hosts effectively blend serious commentary with lighthearted moments, making the discussion both informative and entertaining for sports enthusiasts.

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[Brady Quinn]

It is the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for Dan and the guys. You can hear us weekday mornings before Dan, 9:00am Eastern time or, excuse me, 6:00am Eastern Time, 3:00 clock Pacific, whatever. It's before this show Monday through Friday. And we will be taking you all the way up until noon Eastern Time, 9 o' clock Pacific here on this Friday morning. I feel like we've gotten through it. Yesterday was like the last, not a whole lot of sports really going on. All right. Because now baseball's back after the All Star break. You've got some golf event on another ugly course over in Europe somewhere that people are really fired up about. And other than that. But I feel like we've gotten through the real difficult.

[Jonas Knox]

Just want to take a shot super early, huh? Super quick, six zero one into the show, huh? He's, he's gonna try. But I think really what I'm most disappointed about as I was going through the rundown before the show today and I didn't see anything about a special guest, Live Bed Jesus. Now for the Dan Patrick show listeners who don't know who Live Bed Jesus is. Jonas, could you explain who this is?

[Brady Quinn]

So years ago, we were doing the show on FOX Sports Radio on Sunday nights and got interrupted by some lightning and thunder in the studio. Some music started playing in a piece of paper. What was the music like? A prayer?

[Jonas Knox]

Madonna. All right.

[Brady Quinn]

And so the piece of paper fell down onto the desk and I just read what was in the paper and it was somebody by the name of Live Bet Jesus.

[Jonas Knox]

Was there a signature on it? Was it signed? No, it wasn't signed by.

[Brady Quinn]

It just said LBJ. And I didn't know LeBron was a gambler. And then I came to find out that Live Bet Jesus made a pick and like most of his picks, it hit and won on the air and on a live sporting event. So, you know, if you, when, when everyone talks about the popularity of in game wagering and in game betting, just remember where it started, right here on FOX Sports Radio with a, a being, we'll call it named Live Bet Jesus.

[Jonas Knox]

Now, mind you, I should warn our listeners and Lavar, I think you've actually seen Live Bet Jesus in action enough to know this guy's a flipping loser. You want to Fade him as much as you possibly can. You want no part, I mean, no part of any bet. This loser lays. Lee, you can back this up too. What's his lifetime win percentage? Like 200, 300%, something like that.

[Lee DeLapp]

That's, that's very generous of you, Brady. I'd say roughly about high ones.

[Brady Quinn]

Boy, there's a trusted source.

[Jonas Knox]

I gave Live Bet Jesus some of my money in, in Vegas. And you know, I gotta tell you how to work out. I gotta tell you, first of all, I gotta tell you, the experience of being in his presence at first was overwhelming, exciting, maybe a little bit nerve wracking. But you know, we went with, we went with it, you know, I gave Live Bet Jesus my money and, well, nothing came back.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay, that was.

[Lee DeLapp]

Can win, but the winnings aren't going to be yielding you much. That's, that's for sure.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay, what happened in Vegas was there was a fight during super bowl week on, I think Thursday night. And Lavar. Listen, Lavar got some advice about who to bet on. And because of a shoddy decision and a terrible decision.

[Jonas Knox]

It was a terrible decision.

[Brady Quinn]

It was screwed. But you can't go up to the sports book in Vegas and be like, hey, that was a terrible decision. Can I get my money back? They'll tell you to go kick rock. So it didn't happen and it's unfortunate.

[Jonas Knox]

What would Pete Prisco say? He'd say you're on the wrong side of a good bet.

[Brady Quinn]

That's it.

[Jonas Knox]

That's it.

[Brady Quinn]

That's the go to. Yeah, I was on the right side of it. It just didn't work out, you know, do the same thing all over again.

[Jonas Knox]

The reason why I bring that up is that golf tournament that you're not a fan of, the over there in Port Rush that they're playing, you would think that Live bed. Jesus, if he had any cojones, anything on him, you know, you'd think that maybe, just maybe he would want to visit the show for a segment, maybe lay out a live bet. But I don't know. He's probably, probably too big of a.

[Brady Quinn]

You know, my, my problem with the Open championship or the British Open, I'm just going to call it the British Open. The courses are so unattractive. Like Augusta national, beautiful on tv. Like the US Open. Oakmont. I've been to Oakmont. Beautiful. Like, you go through all the major championships. You go to a golf course, it could be golf and stuff out here in Southern California.

[Jonas Knox]

You've never been there. How would you know?

[Brady Quinn]

Watching tv.

[Jonas Knox]

It's beautiful in its own way.

[Brady Quinn]

What's its own way? They got weeds in the background.

[Jonas Knox]

No, no, that's called Heather.

[Brady Quinn]

Wait, what?

[Jonas Knox]

It's a. It's a link style. I want to know where that name came from.

[Brady Quinn]

Wait, what?

[Jonas Knox]

It's. It's called Heather. Yeah, it's. It's a link style course. There's nothing wrong. That's how it's supposed to look. Oh, that ain't nothing but some Heather on. Yeah. Why is it some Loreno on the back of the course?

[Brady Quinn]

Why is it heather. It's very white of them.

[Jonas Knox]

You gotta go. You gotta go take a stroll through the Lorenas. Yeah, I don't know where that one's going, but, I mean, what does it matter? Heather's.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, it doesn't matter. Watch it. There's just weeds. You're in an open field with weeds. Oh, they decided to mow that part. All right, let's tee off, everybody. It's like, come on, dude, clean up your grass.

[Jonas Knox]

Why you. So why are you so down on the course, Jonas?

[Brady Quinn]

I just don't like the way it looks. That's it. That's the way I feel about it.

[Jonas Knox]

No, you know what he's saying? This is. This is due to his experience being over in Ireland, people weren't as friendly to Jonas. I did.

[Brady Quinn]

I did, too.

[Jonas Knox]

I don't know that, Joe. I don't know. I don't know. They weren't as friendly towards you, weren't as welcoming. You know, it was. Jonas really played up the whole thing. He would barely drink any of his Guinness, which was noticed by many locals that said, oh, you don't want to assimilate to our culture.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay, first of all, you're Guinness and you drink coffee. The Dan Patrick show guys were there as well, too. We were all out there. And there's a thing you do in Dublin or in Ireland where you've got to drink down to the line. You've got to drink your splitting.

[Jonas Knox]

It's called splitting the G. All right.

[Brady Quinn]

Well, they can split this G. Dang. I almost got there, and I'm not going to be judged because I didn't accurately get to the line. Okay. Like, I didn't see a lot of people accurately get to splitting the G. Wow.

[Jonas Knox]

Lavar. I'm not gonna let him keep going because he's not really ever talking about really what took place. Okay. You know how many people bought us a Guinness? Do you know how many Guinness at the end of the show? At the end of the Day. Yeah, I'm sure there were, but they were all left full just sitting there. Yeah, that's just sitting there. That's offensive. Until. Until Lee would come by and polish them. Oh. Lee made it look like Jonas actually drank any of the Guinness that people bought for him. I got your bag, Jonas Lee, how did that make you feel to split the G?

[Lee DeLapp]

Oh, I. I'm pretty good at it. I get it one every six times, at least.

[Brady Quinn]

Split my G at least three times.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, wow.

[Brady Quinn]

In Ireland. And here's the thing.

[Unknown]

Oh, that please land just a little bit.

[Brady Quinn]

Lee's like any good dog. Whatever you don't finish, they'll take care of. Like this. That's why they invented the term doggy bag.

[Jonas Knox]

I can drink extra stout Guinness all day.

[Brady Quinn]

Really?

[Jonas Knox]

All day.

[Brady Quinn]

It doesn't fill you up.

[Jonas Knox]

That's Rasta. Rasta brethren. That's. That's. We drink man. Drink that.

[Bob Crawford]

It doesn't fill you up. Hey, dude, It's a light beer up.

[Jonas Knox]

Extra stout.

[Brady Quinn]

Really?

[Bob Crawford]

What?

[Brady Quinn]

Not me.

[Jonas Knox]

That's. That's, that's. That's my weapon of choice. In fact, outside of surveys is like drinking. I, I've. I've been on this Corona Light like, like thing lately. I don't know why, but I've been really liking Corona Lights.

[Brady Quinn]

I thought you were Pacifico guy.

[Jonas Knox]

I. I love Pacifico, but like, it's been hurting me. There's this one beer coming out that I feel really good about, but we'll, we'll hold on to that. Well, you know, let's Stick City. We, we, we. Citrus Wheat. But let me tell you something, Brady.

[Brady Quinn]

How long we've been hearing about. We're gonna get some Stick City beer. How long are going on for?

[Jonas Knox]

Not hold my breath. Yeah, you should. Wolf tick coming. I promise you it's on the way. Anyway, one thing that's not coming is T.J. watts. New deal. Got an extension. It's here. It is here. Domino has dropped.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. Three years. $123 million.

[Jonas Knox]

I know how to take that line. Lead up to it.

[Brady Quinn]

$108 million.

[Jonas Knox]

Why isn't T.J. watt guaranteed?

[Brady Quinn]

It puts T.J. watt as the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. $41 million a year he's going to get. So they tack on another three years.

[Jonas Knox]

More or 100,000 more than.

[Brady Quinn]

I think 100 million more.

[Bob Crawford]

One million more than Miles.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay. All right, so which. You know what that means? Yeah, we got. Who's next up? You gotta believe say his name. Lavar. Yeah, because I don't Think. I don't think Hendrickson is going to get that type of contract. So I don't think. Yeah, I don't think Dallas has to wait anymore. Like now, Now Michael Parsons can get his deal done. Thanks, Captain Obvious. Now the question, who did that? Who did that? I think the question now becomes, is it like 41 point, you know, one or 41 point, million more, you think A million? Those are rookie numbers.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay, so do you think the Bengals, in seeing this deal, looked at him with like, that's awesome. Like literally not even a thought, like, they'll never go near that.

[Jonas Knox]

I think, yeah, that's absolutely cool. They're not going near there. Lavar actually. And you backed him on this. Jonas Lavar made the case yesterday that he thinks Jerry Jones wants to say, hey, hey, boys, I'm paying. I'm paying the most defensive play, the most money for the defensive play in the league. The non quarterback. I'm paying him the most. Yeah, that might, you guys co sign. That might be a little out of context, though. I mean it. I'm not saying he's waiting to say that. Well, I just don't think he wants to have to be the one that has to say he didn't where he knows he has to. That's all. Well, all I'm saying is the Cincinnati Bengals are the exact opposite. Well, there you go. Yeah, that organization we can agree on, to Jonas's point. What was that? What was that? They just drove by. Was that T.J. watts deal? Yeah, we're not hopping on that.

[Brady Quinn]

He's like, way to go.

[Jonas Knox]

We don't use the H OB lane. We'll stay right here in this one.

[Brady Quinn]

Like, they are the Rob Parker of the NFL. Like, like Rob Parker who brings his own tea bags. Rob Parker, super bowl week. And they're not even like name teabags. They're. They're store brand, signature select from Ralph's or Albertsons or Piggly Wiggly. And it's because he doesn't want to spend money on actual tea bags. That's the Cincinnati Bengals. I'm a woman. They have no interest. They have no interest in matching that deal.

[Jonas Knox]

But all serious, all seriousness, if you're Hendrickson, what are you going to do? Like, that's got to be the biggest question here. What is he going to do, retire? Why would you retire when you can make a lot of money? Like, okay, resign to the fact that you're not going to get that money from the Cincinnati Bengals. They're not going to trade them. Do you think they Trade them. Who does the trade? Who does the trade?

[Brady Quinn]

Well, they gave him a chance to go seek a trade and nobody.

[Jonas Knox]

And nobody moved, nobody, Nobody budged. Okay, so you don't have the opportunity to go seek a trade. I, I mean, is it messed up to say at some point you got to say, I'm not going to get this type of money in the market. I'll get as close. He can get into the 30s, right? Yeah, he can get close to it. Yeah, he can get tough. The tough part about his position now is you would have thought if something was going to happen, it would have happened earlier this year where there's a bit more cap space, teams are spending a lot of money. But you know, again, we kind of talk about like deadlines, do deals. You always hear that phrase. In this case, look, he's under contract and it's the last year of his deal. He's scheduled to make what, 15.8, you know, as far as his, his salary this year, which is grossly underpaid considering how productive he's been the past two years. But he's 31 and we've keep talking about that age 30 number and what that means for players as they move forward. Greater injury risk, you know, lack of production tends to kind of fall off. So that's that kind of, that, that point in time where teams want to, you know, not necessarily have to shell out a ton of money. So I think as we get close to the season, he'll get traded for. And obviously if that team trades for him, they know that, like he's being traded to show up and get paid more than whatever the Bengals are paying him. I think the tough thing for the Bengals is that if they were going to replace him, which they have with their first round pick and Shemar Stewart, they should have done whatever trade deal was on the table before the draft because that's where you had the most leverage. Now that you already have his replacement, it looks kind of tough. And then on top of that, teams are looking at you thinking, well, you're kind of desperate because not only have you not signed this guy to extension, but your first round rookie, you know, draft pick, has not even signed his deal. He hasn't been there at all. So it becomes a very difficult situation all the way around for Hendrickson purely because of the size of these deals that the Bengals can't pay and then the fact of his age and factoring in other pieces of it, and really the Bengals and where they're at, where they don't have to move on from him yet. I mean, and he's under contract, so they can find him and they can, you know, do whatever they need to do to try to entice him to come back and play under the contract that he's currently playing on in this.

[Brady Quinn]

In the same off season, max Crosby signed 1 for 35 million a year, and now we've just seen TJ Watt sign 1 for 41.

[Jonas Knox]

It's going to be closer to Max.

[Brady Quinn]

We've literally in the same offseason. That was like two months ago.

[Jonas Knox]

And I. Honestly speaking, I think Cincinnati is going to try to get it for less than 35. I think it'll be in the 30s, but it's going to be less than 35 is going to be. What does Hendrickson want to do? But I think that again, back to the original point. Now the stage is set. Now Jerry Jones can go ahead. He knows what he has to pay. He can go to. Go to Micah's representation and say, here's the market. Here it's now. Here it is. Like, let's get the deal done. I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Parsons deal drops today or like in the next couple days. Today, tomorrow, Monday. I wouldn't be surprised. So that's. They were just. They're waiting on TJ then. That's what you're saying? I believe so. I said it yesterday. I know. I. I believe so. I do not think that they wanted to put. He said he wasn't waiting, that he wasn't looking either. Well, smack him in the face. You are. I. I almost called you a name on. On live radio. Why are you so stuck on that line like Michael, first of all, I'm talking about Jerry Jones, not Michael Parsons. And I stand 10 toes down on the 10 toes that Michael Parsons is not looking for a contract. He's. The contract is coming to him. And Jerry Jones was most certainly most certain, likely waiting for TJ Watt to get his deal done. And I don't think that Jerry Jones would want it to be out there that the Pittsburgh Steelers did a better deal with T.J. watt than he did with Micah Parsons. Knowing the conversations and the players, as we mentioned, that you have to make comparisons to. As it applies to Micah Parsons. I stand on that.

[Brady Quinn]

You mentioned Jerry Jones. He actually was asked what he wants out of the Micah Parsons extension. Let's take a listen.

[Bob Crawford]

I want me some glory.

[Jonas Knox]

Ho. I mean, again, you guys are a hole.

[Brady Quinn]

I don't know what that is.

[Jonas Knox]

Go to break. You know what?

[Unknown]

I don't have the patience to jack.

[Jonas Knox]

I don't either. I'm with Jerry. Jerry, maybe you and I should do the show.

[Brady Quinn]

I don't know what that means.

[Jonas Knox]

Cuke wants to keep talking about Michael waiting on a contract. You sitting here talking about Jerry on some acting like, Like. Like my. My stepbrothers that I. I want to kick out of the house. The. The slumber party is over. I don't want y' all here anymore. I'm taking my Sega Genesis. Y' all need to go home, man. Like, I think you're touching on something that I've. I've come to learn over the years. And this is where I'm, like, out of touch with it because I'm just a. You know, I grew up in a middle class family in the midwest is. I know some people who are, like, wealthy, and they will brag about, like, bets they've lost or money they've lost, how much it is that. That they. Right, exactly. So it, like, puts them in a category of, like. Oh, yeah. And it's like, okay. And this actually falls in that category then. If you're telling me that you think he's going to kind of brag, if you will, about paying Micah Parsons more than any other player in the league. I don't know that he's going to brag about it. I just know that he doesn't want to have to be in a situation where somebody else did a bigger deal for the same position. We know this someone eventually will. I don't know who that player is, but we always know that, like, it doesn't need to be at the same time. It doesn't need to be. And. And weeks apart. Days apart.

[Brady Quinn]

I. I don't think it bothers him if he ends up paying more than he could have two months prior. I don't think it bothers him at all. I. I think I've always thought it's like a fashionably late tax. Like, he's okay.

[Jonas Knox]

How cheap you are. That's shocking to hear you say. Well, because he's talking about someone other than himself.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, this isn.

[Jonas Knox]

If he was talking about himself, it'd be much different.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, please.

[Jonas Knox]

I saw what he. Can you imagine if Jonas missed a sale at Ross dress for less? Like, he would be so frustrated by it.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, I can still remember one I missed. I swear to God, I saw on my life. I swear to God. And I remember my mom telling me, I think we're gonna regret that.

[Bob Crawford]

Oh, wow.

[Brady Quinn]

Because it was there.

[Jonas Knox]

What was it? What was the sale. What you, what do you pass up on?

[Brady Quinn]

It was a jacket. It was a jacket that was like $9. And her and I were, were looking through Ross, and I still, I remember this moment. She's like, well, let's just, you know, we'll, we'll come back. I was like, okay. And then we went back like a week later, and it was not there.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, it's gone. It's gone. That day. It's gone. Like minutes or. I love watching Lavar look at you as you tell us. He's so full of crap.

[Brady Quinn]

I'm not even. I'm not even making that story up on everything. I remember her telling me specifically. Yeah, listen, you know, sometimes when you want something, maybe you just have to jump right then and there. I was like, oh, okay, that's a good point. Lesson learned. But I still remember that raw stress for less. Thousand Oaks still there, by the way.

[Jonas Knox]

Them defects on them, them clothes. Like, if you could find one that just had that, just that slight defect. You were good. You were good. It's like, oh, it's a starter. Well, it's the Pittsburgh Penguins, right?

[Brady Quinn]

There's no Gittsburg.

[Jonas Knox]

There's no I in pins. Not this one. That's a different sport.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, it's like those, the liquor store glasses you get. They're not Oakley's.

[Jonas Knox]

They're Okies.

[Brady Quinn]

You know, there's no. Hell, I swear to God.

[Jonas Knox]

Why are you chiming in on this? Wouldn't leave me a resident expert.

[Brady Quinn]

Am I making that up like you get fake glasses at a liquor store?

[Lee DeLapp]

Oh, yeah, I get them all the time. You get the, the Ray Ban fake oat. The fake Ray Banlies.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, that's the best.

[Bob Crawford]

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[Jonas Knox]

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[Bob Crawford]

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[Jonas Knox]

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[Bob Crawford]

New episodes drop every Thursday. So do yourself a favor and listen.

[Jonas Knox]

To Inside the Parker with Rob Parker.

[Bob Crawford]

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[LaVar Arrington]

Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm EBONY and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private. We're excited. Explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house.

[Bob Crawford]

Unarmed.

[LaVar Arrington]

Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's Your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Dani Shapiro]

Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness, the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro and these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you. Stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jonas Knox]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.

[Brady Quinn]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Bob Crawford]

We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch and so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.

[Brady Quinn]

When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile. Pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

[Jonas Knox]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brady Quinn]

It is the Dan Patrick show here. Fox Sports Radio, Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in we'll call it a little over 15 minutes from now.

[Jonas Knox]

You know about slapping.

[Brady Quinn]

You talk about a really awkward. Is that what it is? Speak for yourself.

[Jonas Knox]

Not anymore. I flick. I used to speak for myself. They got rid of that show too. So to the memories.

[Brady Quinn]

Coming up here in a little over 15 minutes from now, you talk about an awkward moment. We've got it for you. That'll be. That'll be yours here again, a little over 15 minutes from now here on the Dan Patrick Show. Like this I'm trying to figure out what happened here. So Lloyd Howell, who's the executive director of the nflpa, resigned.

[Jonas Knox]

Is. Oh, oh, was.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, was what happened? Was it, was it like hiding stuff from the players? Wasn't the, the conflict of interest that he was working with a private equity firm that was working with the NFL? Cause we were told last week, hey, nothing to see here. He was vetted, no problem whatsoever. And apparently I guess not. He decided, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and take a step back here. So away we go with the latest development in the circus. It is the NFL. Pa. Wow.

[Jonas Knox]

I don't think anybody should be shocked by it, but let's, let's hear what Q has to say about it. There's a lot of layers to this, obviously, and I think he stepped down most likely because there's internal pressure over the things that were brought up that honestly, you know, players were unaware of. Whether that be through the interview process, his relationship with the Carlyle Group, which is looking to invest in some of these franchises, whatever the case may be, probably shouldn't have been the guy in the first place if he was going to have such a short tenure. And you realize there was some of these conflict of interest. So here's my issue with all of this is if you are, you know, looking at this and being honest with yourselves, it's not just Lloyd Howell who's stepping down because of some of these conflicts of interest and things that have occurred, because there's a voting committee on this, right? There's a players elected from each one of those teams that's going to vote and decide whether or not he should be the executive director. So that vote took place. You really should be calling in question the people who are making that vote. Now, granted, we weren't in the room, we don't know what that conversation was like when they voted. But this is a moment where the nflpa, the players union, needs to look in the mirror collectively. This is like every player that's part of it and say we need to figure out a better process of not only figuring out and hiring who that executive director is going to be to get the best person possible to represent a union that is weak in terms of how we challenge the owners. But even greater in context, when you look at the NBA, the MLB and other unions around them, it is the most powerful league yet. It's the weakest union. So hopefully this is a wake up call to the NFLPA and all who are involved and all the players as well, to get more Involved to be more active and understanding A lot of the things that players, when I would sit in meetings and they would go over the CBA they were unaware of. I remember sitting in the Seattle Seahawks team meeting room and players being irate about the fact that there was going to be blood testing, which they had agreed to in that cba. I mean, standing up, screaming, shouting, angry. I mean, everything you could imagine. And I remember walking out of that meeting thinking, this isn't on those players for acting emotionally about what they're being told. It's because we aren't doing a better job collectively as a union of educating every single player of what exactly we're signing up for. And I've heard some of those calls when, during the lockout period, what that sounded like, where certain players were pushing to sign the deal, pushing to sign the deal, sign the deal. And I get that there was players who were in need because they'd blown through whatever savings they had. And there were players who wanted to cash in on contracts that year. So they wanted to be able to do a new contract or get an extension at the right time, where it was an uncapped year. So there's, there's all sorts of different motivations behind it. But this should be a wake up call for the NFL pa. It really should. And I think, I believe Don Davis is stepping in as the interim. Don's awesome. He's been with the PA for a long time. He's trusted by players. Love Don. So hopefully, maybe it's not just an interim, you know, term for him. Maybe, maybe it's, you know, or maybe he's going to end up being the new executive director. Optics wise, this had to happen. I think that understanding that you had findings that were, you know, pertinent to what's going on with the people you represent, that's just, that's as horrible a bad look as, as it gets. So now you move into, there's going to be tremendous trust issues that, that develop from this. What, what else, what, what, what else is there? What happened next? What should we expect now in terms of that, that explanation and, and antidote for, for the players? The spectrum of, of education and understand, it's very, it's a very wide spectrum from highly, highly, highly educated to highly, highly, highly under educated. And that's just a reality that exists. Some of these guys really, really need more in terms of understanding simple things. Not just, not just getting into business, but getting into just simple things of understanding. And in some instances you don't have to be a bookworm or a scholar of sorts to be a professional football player. So there's that. To me, what, what we're looking at right now is the idea and the understanding of what is the value proposition that is at play and at stake with the nflpa. Right. Like to me, we look at these other unions, why are they so good? It's because you have the most high profile guys that are going to back in these, in these union, these union room meetings. There's only a handful of guys that are going to be commanding the type of dollars we just talked about with TJ Watt getting his contract. There's only a handful of these guys. There's only a handful of influential players that are actually going to be around long enough where these things truly are debatable, where they matter, where they impact you. The other guys, they're trying to survive. I want to make a roster. I hope I can make a roster. I hope I can make a year's wage. So to me, I think that is, this is such a, I feel like it's an easy fix and it's a complicated one all at one time. The easy fix is you gotta get your most highest worth athletes to come together and make sure that whatever it is that the agenda is, that agenda is fitting and it's fair to the players and the players are, are given a fair opportunity to understand what those, those things are like a drug test like the, the GLA and, and your name, image and likeness, the benefits that are connected to what you have going on, the rules of engagement between you, the player and the franchise that you play for. There's a lot of things that can be maybe reduce the, the lack of trust that is there. But, but also with that being said, I think there's so many moving parts, so many different agendas amongst the players, amongst, not just outside of that, amongst the players. I think that it's, it's probably going to be very, very difficult as it's been to find out where you land on what the proper solution to all of this is.

[Brady Quinn]

How can anybody take them serious again?

[Jonas Knox]

That's, and that's, it's a, it's a proper question.

[Brady Quinn]

They're like, oh, we're going to get this and that. Because I remember Demora Smith came out in like 2017 and he was talking about, man, next time around we're going to get this and we're going to get that. And then you come to find out, man, everybody was in it, like everybody was involved. It just, I don't Know how, I don't know how you regain the trust of not only the, the players, but also the public as well, too. To even take them serious again feels weird.

[Jonas Knox]

No, I mean, and Lavor brings up the best point. And really, to hammer it home, you were doing union deals for players who aren't even in the league. Like the guys who the deals are doing. The negotiations with different collective bargaining agreements are oftentimes in college, maybe your average career length is three years. So oftentimes you're trying to make sure those players who are, if you're doing a bell curve right, who are half the league, who only are in there for three years, you're trying to educate them, get them to understand all of it. But the reality is it's the guys who are not even in the league yet who are most likely going to be walking into whatever collective bargaining agreement you just negotiated, which is crazy. Crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. And, but, but it makes it really, really hard. You look at baseball, you look at the NBA, you look at something that's in the league, guys have guaranteed deals. When they sign a five year fully guaranteed deal and they get bought out, they're still making two thirds of that, or they're still making a good chunk of that, depending on the language of it. So teams have to invest with them, they have to be patient with them. They have to, you know, if they get traded, they're still on that deal. The other team's absorbing that. So there's a lot, there's a lot of things. Now they could get bought out and maybe they're out for a minute, but they'll find their way back into it. You know, they tend to have, if they make it, a much longer career path. So it just is a lot of people too. That's the other thing. A lot of people, you get so many people opinions. Like every, every collective bargaining agreement that it comes to, you've got probably seven, eight, nine different things that you're trying to improve upon and the owners have one or two. And so that makes it difficult to ever make any headway. But even more than that, to get a consensus on any one thing that people feel strongly about it is it's tough. I mean, look, J.C. treader, by the way, might be the next one to go. Yeah, I mean, in all seriousness, he was the president when I believe Lloyd Howell was hired. And then he got hired as the chief strategy officer. And there are some things that came to light that, you know, obviously he was most likely aware of during that process. And then how he ended up getting hired. You know, it now looks even more shady and it looks like power grabs by different people. So it's unfortunate because again, greatest league, greatest sport in the world, but the players are represented better. And like I said, I've got optimism because of Don Davis. I love Don, he's a good guy and I think he'd be good for the players.

[Brady Quinn]

It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Two pros and a cup of joe filling in for Dan and the guys.

[Bob Crawford]

Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app Life's Messy.

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[Unknown]

Cheers to 50 years of Miller Light. Great tasting light beer. For people who love beer. They've been doing it since 1975 and they were sponsoring drafts at the Draft in Green Bay. Big sponsor Friends of the show. Tastes great. Less filling. And it's a taste you can depend on. Great beer. Trusted by beer lovers for five decades. And they make it simple. Simple and great. You have the malted barley for rich balanced toffee note flavors. Iconic golden color. You pour that and you go, man, that looks good. Tastes good. 96 calories. Just 3.2 grams of carbs per 12 ounces. Miller Time's always a good time. It's a great time for me. The original light beer since 1975. Still iconic after 50 years. So Miller Light. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com Patrick. You'll find the delivery options near you. Or you can pick up Miller Lite just about anywhere that sells beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Here's to Miller Light.

[LaVar Arrington]

Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebonae and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant, but he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Dani Shapiro]

Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness, the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro and these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories of I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you. Stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jonas Knox]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.

[Brady Quinn]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Bob Crawford]

We need veteran players and we need young players like you're building a team.

[Brady Quinn]

From scratch and so the succession plan.

[Bob Crawford]

Of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.

[Brady Quinn]

When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile. Pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

[Jonas Knox]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brady Quinn]

It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming up top of the next hour. Somebody is trying to save football.

[Bob Crawford]

All right.

[Brady Quinn]

They are trying to save football. And we've got the details for you again. Little over 12 minutes from now, we are going to remind you, we're going to remind you here that you should check out the fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe. So you never miss our very best FOX Sports radio videos on YouTube. YouTube.

[Bob Crawford]

Sometimes you can't get to everything in.

[Jonas Knox]

The world of sports or entertainment.

[Bob Crawford]

Good thing the guys are here to bring you in case you missed it.

[Brady Quinn]

And for that, we turn it over to our executive producer, Lee D. Viva la vida.

[Lee DeLapp]

Just, just a good song gets you in the mood. I don't know if you caught that on Coldplay. Well, if you did miss that, you might have also missed that Coldplay had a concert this week over in Gillette Stadium.

[Jonas Knox]

What happened?

[Lee DeLapp]

Well, something went viral. Kiss Cam panned over to astronomer CEO Andy Byron. He's a big time CEO for this astronomer company. Happened to be linked up with his hr. Head of chief. Chief and head of hr, Kristen Cabot. Problem is they're both married to other people. Kristen. Mary covered her face and he ducked out of frame. Chris Martin, who was watching the. Chris Martin, of course, the head of Coldplay was watching. Say, hey, look at these cute couple that. Oh, they're either very shy or they're having an affair. Turns out, yes, they were having an affair moment has gone viral now. And Andy Byron's wife has taken herself off of social media, removed her name off of other sites.

[Jonas Knox]

You think?

[Lee DeLapp]

Yeah, you think. And Kristen Cabot has happens to be divorced. Double checking that. So, yeah, there you go. Viral moment.

[Jonas Knox]

She's not married. Yeah, no, she wasn't. She was recently divorced.

[Bob Crawford]

Recently divorced.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, that makes it a little better. Like maybe a little. I mean, really, it may be a little better. I mean, it's worse. Well, here's the worst story, Mary. Now people are actually identifying people who are around them because they obviously knew of this. So now they're being drug into this, too. Oh, darn. Which makes it Even more interesting. Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, you knew it. Is anybody gonna call out Coldplay for being nosy?

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, that is hilarious. He called it right on stage.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. Mind your business.

[Lee DeLapp]

He did apologize right afterwards, saying, I think we might have done something bad there.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, you think?

[Bob Crawford]

I think more people on these cameras.

[Lee DeLapp]

Need to take a lesson.

[Bob Crawford]

I saw a Taylor Swift fan who, like, threw a towel over her head while being interviewed because, like, she didn't want to show her face on TV.

[Lee DeLapp]

Because she was skipping work.

[Bob Crawford]

She had called in sick to work to go to this Taylor Swift concert.

[Lee DeLapp]

I think more people just got to do that.

[Jonas Knox]

So that's actually the question that comes to mind with all this, surprisingly, is should they have reacted more cool and calm in the moment because their reaction was what drew all the attention. It did.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

But I think the damage was done.

[Brady Quinn]

To me, that's the only thing the guy did wrong. Just the way he acted.

[Jonas Knox]

Did you see her face? His. His face was kind of like, o f her face was like, life is over.

[Brady Quinn]

I think the guy apologized on social media and in his apology he used Coldplay lyrics.

[Lee DeLapp]

It turned out that was a deep fake.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, it was fake, okay. Because that was being reported. I wish that was true. He's exonerated on all charges.

[Jonas Knox]

Talk about a sick feeling. If that were to happen, I don't. How would you react to that? Hold on, hold on. I'm feeling sick about this. Him and her.

[Unknown]

And.

[Brady Quinn]

And by the way, shame on Gillette Stadium for having such poor lighting that the guy thought that was his wife.

[Jonas Knox]

There you go. That's what he should have did.

[Brady Quinn]

They also should be exposed.

[Jonas Knox]

You know what? Something happened where there was like a family tragedy or something to that effect, and. And there was just consulting that needed to take place. Yeah, hold on. I. I need Jonas to unload his clip. I know he's got a bunch more jokes sitting in here. I don't. I could tell by looking at him on camera. No, he's sitting on a bunch of stuff. That's where he was like. Well, he did nothing wrong. He did nothing wrong. What did he do?

[Brady Quinn]

Who plays in Gillette Stadium?

[Jonas Knox]

Dang Patriots. Not the Patriots. Yeah, not lately.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, what do you got?

[Brady Quinn]

Well, they're going to sit in judgment, all right? The people that are. That own and operate Gillette Stadium are going to sit in judgment based on stuff we know about them.

[Jonas Knox]

So. So clearly they're. They're leading the way on being poor examples.

[Brady Quinn]

Exactly. Keep going, Jonas, Keep going. It's that environment.

[Jonas Knox]

I know you got more than this, bud. Keep going.

[Brady Quinn]

Hey, Lee, what's this guy's name, this Andy Byron? Andy, you got my support.

[Jonas Knox]

He's on a roll.

[Brady Quinn]

You got my support.

[Jonas Knox]

Just.

[Brady Quinn]

I think this is reckless reporting and so what? They were hugging each other. Big deal. You can't give somebody a hug these days just.

[Jonas Knox]

Cause that is true.

[Lee DeLapp]

Their fingers were interlocked.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, so that was scandalous Tang, Lee.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, who goes that far to know that?

[Brady Quinn]

You remember the Pirates fan who fell over the outfield wall?

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, his fingers clearly were interlocked.

[Brady Quinn]

So this guy didn't want her to fall out of the press box.

[Jonas Knox]

That's. There it is.

[Brady Quinn]

And out of the suite.

[Jonas Knox]

There it is.

[Brady Quinn]

And so.

[Jonas Knox]

God, this was a safety precaution.

[Brady Quinn]

God forbid he shows a little bit compassion and concern for a woman in distress who's going through a divorce, but we're gonna out this guy. Coldplay ought to be ashamed of themselves.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, Lee, you have a work wife.

[Lee DeLapp]

Everybody has work wives. Yeah, I agree. Nothing wrong here.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah. Lee, you've never gone on a trip with your work life, have you? I mean, it's not like you've ever interlocked hands with your work wife. Yes, we never. Oh, no. What happened to Jonas?

[Brady Quinn]

There's.

[Jonas Knox]

What. What happened to Jonas?

[Bob Crawford]

You've never.

[Jonas Knox]

You've never done that, Lee? No, Lee has never had anything go that direction with. Hey, I mean. I mean, at least they were in the states when this.

[Brady Quinn]

And we don't need to say that again because. Yeah, listen, it happens to the best of us, apparently. So that's.

[Jonas Knox]

It's not like they were out of the country, you know, at a Coldplay concert. They were at Gillette Stadium. If there was one city you wouldn't want your work wife, you know, or to be seen with your work wife. Or I guess for women out there, your work husband. Like, what city would that be? Thank.

[Bob Crawford]

Vegas.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, probably Las Vegas.

[Brady Quinn]

What happened?

[Jonas Knox]

Miami. Miami. But it's Vegas number one. Gotta be Vegas.

[Lee DeLapp]

Got the motto.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, Vegas has got to be pretty bad again. Good thing no one's ever been there.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. What about Vancouver? Is that a. I'm thinking outside the box here. I don't know why this is outside.

[Jonas Knox]

Does that make it more exotic? We're in the box. Go to break. Back. Go to break.

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[Jonas Knox]

Hotline, a different type of podcast.

[Bob Crawford]

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[Jonas Knox]

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[Bob Crawford]

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[LaVar Arrington]

This is such a ridiculous story.

[Jonas Knox]

You can listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bob Crawford]

I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that.

[Danielle Robaix]

Meant for my heart. Podcasts and Rococo Punch this is the Turning River Road. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. But in 2014, the youngest escaped. Listen to the Turning river road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bob Crawford]

My Uncle Chris was a real character, a garbage truck driver from South Carolina who is now buried in pan alongside the founding families of Panama. He also happens to be responsible for the craziest night of my life. Wild stories about adventure, romance, crime, history and war intertwine as I share the tall tales and hard truths that have helped me understand Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.