Hour 1 – Wemby Needs and Enforcer, NBA Draft Lottery

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show — Hour 1: Wemby Needs an Enforcer, NBA Draft Lottery

Date: May 11, 2026
Host: Dan Patrick & Danettes (Fritzi, Marvin, Paulie, Dylan)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the aftermath of Victor Wembanyama's ejection from a Spurs-Timberwolves playoff game, with Dan analyzing its impact, the NBA's handling of star treatment, and the longstanding "enforcer" role in sports. The crew also explores the fallout from the NBA Draft Lottery, issues with league tanking, and reactions to the 76ers-Knicks playoff series. Interspersed are fan calls, playful banter, and a segment on the rising popularity of certain baby names.

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Main Topics & Key Insights

1. Victor Wembanyama’s Ejection and Consequences

Timestamps: [01:38] – [10:28], [16:08]

• Incident Recap:
  Wembanyama was ejected (flagrant 2 foul) in the second quarter after an elbow thrown during a highly physical playoff game. Dan emphasizes the official rules: “A flagrant one is unnecessary contact. A flagrant two, unnecessary contact and excessive contact. Therefore, that can result in an ejection and possible suspension.” [02:07]

• Star Treatment and Historical Context:
  Dan contrasts Adam Silver’s commissioner era with David Stern’s, noting the perception that stars get lighter punishment today.

  • “I think because we like Wemby, we want to see Wemby, we don’t think the NBA will suspend him… If David Stern was commissioner … [He’d] probably scold me with this.” [03:00]

• Physicality and 'Enforcer' Culture:
  Dan draws parallels with hockey’s “enforcer” strategy and the NBA’s historic handling of stars getting roughed up.

  • Quote: “If you’re going to bang up Gretzky, [enforcers would] come in and pound your face. Now, you can't do that in basketball. But I would bring in Kelly Olynyk and say, Kelly, why don't you rough up Anthony Edwards accidentally?” [07:27]

• San Antonio’s Response & Coach’s Comments:
  The Spurs’ coach, Mitch Johnson, insists the league must protect Wemby:

  • Mitch Johnson at [07:11]: “If the people that are in charge of controlling the game and protecting the physicality of the game don’t do that, then at some point he’s going to have to protect himself.”
    Dan’s reaction: “As a coach, you gotta make sure that you keep your cool with this. You don’t like it happening. You just don’t want to lose him.” [07:17]

• The Play in Focus:

  • Paulie, after watching replays, emphasizes intent:
    • “He could have easily not done it. When you see it, it’s hard not to call. Very hard not to call.” [10:09]

• Suspension & NBA’s Dilemma:
  Dan doubts suspension will follow: “He’ll probably be fined; then therefore, they’ll keep him from being suspended.” [08:52]
  The default stance: the ejection was justified, but sitting out another game isn’t necessary. [16:08]

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2. NBA Playoffs & Philadelphia 76ers Post-Mortem

Timestamps: [10:28] – [16:45]

• Knicks vs. 76ers — The End of Philly’s Season:

  • The Knicks hit a record-tying 18 first-half threes. [10:28]
  • Dan questions Philly’s future, criticizing Joel Embiid’s reliability:
    • “It's weird to say it, but they’re two different teams when Embiid is on the floor and when he’s not. … I can’t count on him. I can’t build around him. Am I going to trade him?” [11:25]
  • Marvin challenges whether the Sixers’ season was a success, given high payroll and a sweep.

• Fan Reactions and Playoff Ticket Economics:

  • Notably, many Sixers fans sold their tickets to Knicks fans because, “they didn’t think they were going to win this series. … Why is it teams can have business moves, but a fan can’t have a business move?” [14:13]

• Notable Quotes:

  • Dan: “Just because they did something doesn’t mean you get to do something. And he did load up the elbow. He had intent. I got to throw him.” [16:10]
  • Marvin: “A second round sweep by the Knicks is not a successful season.” [13:07]

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3. NBA Draft Lottery: The Tanking Issue

Timestamps: [16:48] – [30:42]

• Draft Lottery Outcomes:

  • Utah, Memphis, and the Wizards all benefit from strategic losing/tanking.
  • Dan: “Tanking won. Those who tank won … probably the last year that you’re going to be able to truly [tank]. Utah was blatant. The Wizards finally won something.” [16:52]

• Franchise Misfortunes & Tanking Penalties:

  • Pacers miss out on a top pick after a poor trade and a “natural” bad season. Dan decries executive mismanagement — trades for marginal improvement cost teams when luck turns. [22:31]
  • Utah fined $500,000 for sitting top players in competitive moments:
    • “[The fine isn’t] the fine. It’s the embarrassment of, you guys are tanking right in front of us. … I mean, this is manipulating a game when you think about it.” [27:04]

• Suggested Reforms:

  • Dan proposes flattening lottery odds post-elimination to prevent intentional losing.
  • Quote: “What if you just said, whenever you’re eliminated from the postseason, then you go into the lottery? Everybody gets the same odds.” [25:45]

• Ethics of Tanking vs. Fixing:

  • Dylan: “Taking, like, by definition is throwing the game. You’re trying not to win the game. … If anyone in the organization was caught having money on the game, they’d go to prison because they’d be like, you fixed this game.” [29:57]
  • Dan, on semantics: “I don’t like to use fixing a game, but you kind of are fixing the opportunity for the other team to win.” [30:16]

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4. Listener Calls & Lighter Segments

Timestamps: [30:46] – [44:46]

• Best and Worst of the Weekend:

  • Callers praise WNBA’s opening games and lament the Astros’ poor pitching and Sixers’ playoff flame-out. [30:56]
  • “My worst, and I hate to tell this to Fritzi, I think we need to actually just admit that our Astros are actually bad this year.” – Caller Lucas in Texas [31:56]
  • Anthony Edwards lauded as the “most exciting” player despite not being the “best.” [32:15]

• Baby Names, Sports and Pop Culture:

  • Amusing debate around unique, quirky, and traditional baby names, sparked by LaMelo Ball reportedly naming his son "LeOne Ball." [32:45]
  • Dan: “There should be somebody—when you put in the paperwork for a name—like a Judge Judy, an ombudsman to say, ‘Let’s talk this one out.’” [33:15]
  • A playful rundown of the most popular baby names for 2025 (Olivia for girls, Liam for boys). [44:00]

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5. Fame, Franchises, and NBA Commercials

Timestamps: [39:42] – [43:28]

• Market Size and Athlete Fame:
  • Conversation on how markets (like New York) can make fringe players more famous than stars elsewhere (“John Starks vs. Mitch Richmond”). [41:30]
  • “It’s great being a New York Knick when the Knicks are good.” [41:13]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Dan Patrick on Wemby's Flagrant:

  • “You can’t be thrown out of a game because you want to let everybody know you’re not going to take this.” [06:23]

• Marvin on officiating:

  • “The refs looked at that replay a little bit longer than they normally would have. … They did not want to eject him from the game yesterday.” [09:35]

• Dylan comparing tanking to game fixing:

  • “You are intentionally trying to generate an unfavorable result that you have control over.” [30:27]

• Paulie on organizational tanking:

  • “It’s not throwing a game, but it’s not like Lauri Markkanen had an ankle sprain that was light … This was a game where they had a small lead going into the fourth quarter, and the coaching staff or management … said, we’re going to do our best to not win.” [28:25]

• On market fame:

  • “It’s like when you’re with the Cowboys, you’re famous. … Other players are great, but you’re famous.” [41:30]

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Segment Timestamps

• Wemby ejection & NBA star treatment: [01:38] – [10:28], [16:08]
• Spurs coach & ‘protection’ of stars: [07:11] – [07:33]
• Knicks-76ers playoff fallout: [10:28] – [16:45]
• Draft lottery recap and tanking: [16:48] – [30:42]
• Listener calls & WNBA notes: [30:46] – [34:01]
• Baby names & cultural discussion: [34:02] – [44:46]
• NBA fame by franchise size: [39:42] – [43:28]

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Tone and Style

The tone is signature Dan Patrick: conversational, insightful, with humor and light self-deprecation. The Danettes inject playful banter, quick-witted commentary, and audience engagement through call-ins and polling. The environment is friendly but critical where appropriate—especially on the issues of tanking and player discipline.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

You’ll walk away understanding:

• Why the Wembanyama ejection matters (for him, the Spurs, and NBA precedent) and what comes next.
• How “tanking” shapes league dynamics and why the NBA may finally try to clamp down.
• The broader implications of franchise size on player fame and the ongoing evolution of sports stardom and fandom.
• Spirited, offbeat takes on parental naming trends, with plenty of laughs and cultural color.

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Transcript

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Flagrant 2 and let me give you the rule book here. A flagrant one is unnecessary contact. A flagrant two, unnecessary contact and excessive contact. Therefore, that can result in an ejection and possible suspension. I think because we like Wemby, we want to see Wemby, we don't think the NBA will suspend him. Now I go back to ptsd, Post Traumatic Stern disorder when David Stern was the commissioner, because if I brought this up to him and I said if Victor Wembanyama got suspended and I would have the audacity to question the commissioner, as I once did, you can't suspend him. He already got suspended, really got kicked out of a game in the second quarter and then he would probably use the word palaver and then he would scold me with this Commissioner Adam Silver, do I think, now here's the one thing that's tricky with this. And look, I don't agree with what Wemby did. I know that he's getting, you know, jostled. He's getting hit in the Face, he's getting pushed. There's a lot of things that go on. This is the way that you are going to combat Victor Wembanyama. His skill and his size. They are going to rough him up. We talked about this when the series started. They're going to be physical with him. He's got to be careful. He's got to be. He's got to make sure he's not the one who's going to be the enforcer. That's where you have a guy come off the bench and say, all right, why don't you smack Anthony Edwards here? I mean, this is what happens in baseball. You kind of police yourself here. You can't be throwing elbows. You can. And I disagree with the coaching staff, with the Spurs. Yes, it's physical. It's playoff basketball. But there's a better way to do this than me losing Wemby for an entire game that you probably should have won. But I think that's going to be as we move forward. How does San Antonio protect Wimy? How do they let Minnesota know you're not going to get away with that again? But watching that last night, it's above and beyond and it's excessive. And I wouldn't rule out a suspension. Man, I've been around the NBA for over 50 years. I wouldn't rule out that they would suspend him now. If it's the regular season, he would probably be suspended. If this would have been a fourth quarter flagrant two, then he'd probably be out for this next game. But watching that last night, you watch it in slow motion. It doesn't help now. Not that the officials get to look at that, but the commissioner does. And that's where you look at it and you go, it's beyond excessive. Like he was. He was hoping to connect with somebody. I get the frustration level, but you're the best player on the floor. You can't be thrown out of a game because you want to let everybody know you're not going to take this. Do we have the coach of the Spurs, Mitch Johnson? Here we go. It's getting to a point that it's. If the people that are in charge of controlling the game and protecting the physicality of the game don't do that, then at some point he's going to have to protect himself. We've been asking him to do that now for a while.

[Todd]

I'm glad he took matters into his old hands again.

[Dan Patrick]

Not in terms of hitting Nasrid by all of them. Be very clear about that. I'm glad Nazrid was okay and I didn't want him to help him. But he's going to have to protect himself if they're not. And I think it's disgusting. That's a playoff voice there with the coach of the Spurs. You can't do it. You can't. Now, I know he wants to side with Wemby, wants to, you know, let him know that he has his back. As a coach, you gotta make sure that you keep your cool with this. You don't like it happening. You just don't want to lose him. Because Minnesota benefits greatly because of that. This is why when Wayne Gretzky was doing, you know, what Wayne Gretzky did, Edmonton, all the other teams he played for always had an enforcer. If you're going to bang up Gretzky, Dave SEO is. Marty McOrly is going to come in and pound your face. Now, you can't do that in basketball. But I would bring in Kelly Olenek and say, Kelly, why don't you rough up Anthony Edwards accidentally? I can't lose Wemby and I do want to have his back. And I know it's frustrating. And there was a play in a previous game where he got pushed from behind. It's going to happen. Michael Jordan didn't get up and fight people. When the Pistons game plan was to knock Mike to the ground, the best player in the game, they roughed him up. But Mike didn't get up and say, I'm going to fight Bill Lame Beer. Now, he probably wanted to, but that's where you have players who will do that for you. Great players. That's when you know a great player, somebody throws at your head. You know, you've hit two home runs. I'm going to throw inside. I'm going to hit you. I don't like it, but this is what happens. And then that's when your pitcher does that to their star player. You police each other. And I hated to see Wemby getting tossed from that game, but I wouldn't rule out now. He'll probably be fined then. Therefore they'll keep him from being suspended. One more game and it's a second quarter violation. And I think if that was in the fourth quarter now, we'd have a real, real discussion here. But you're the spurs, you're favored. Don't screw this up. You're better than Minnesota. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

The refs looked at that replay a little bit longer than they normally would have. If it was a regular season game, that would have been a quick flagrant.

[Dan Patrick]

2.

[Marvin]

They. They did not want to eject him from the game yesterday.

[Dan Patrick]

No. And you don't want to, but you have to in that situation. It was so excessive. You have to do it. You want to see stars be stars. But I can't have you out there after one of their players. Source Sole stars. Because you hit him in the jaw. You see what I did with that? Yeah. Thank you. He got hit. Stars.

[Todd]

Stars.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Yes, Paul.

[Paul]

I watched it about a dozen times. And as Wemby is getting bounced around and the ball is in play, one of the players, the Timberwolves, kind of reaches around and hits him in the eye. Not too hard, but he hit him and he clearly gets in his head and he loads up and swings. And that's the thing. He could have easily not done it. When you see it, it's hard not to call. Very hard not to call.

[Dan Patrick]

Give credit to Anthony Edwards, 16 of his 36 in the fourth quarter, but Minnesota was down eight points. They come back to win that game. Then you have the knicks with the 76ers. New York making 18 first half three pointers. That, that ties the record for most first half three pointers in an NBA game, regular season or playoffs. Last time it happened, the Cavaliers in 2016. The Knicks are doing everything right now. You got rest for OG and Anobi if you're going to need that. Brunson playing at a high level, if anything, you don't want to have too much rest here, but you were too good against Philadelphia. And the story will be about Philadelphia because we tend to put a period at the end of their paragraph this season. And now you look ahead to what do you have here? You got Joe, lnb. Normally that's where you go, okay, great. We got him locked up for three more years at $180 million, give or take. I like the backcourt, but I don't know, like, it's weird to say it, but. But they're two different teams when Embiid is on the floor and when he's not. And Embiid put up good numbers. It's just I can't count on him. I can't build around him. Am I going to trade him? We always do this where we go, oh, you know, that team will just trade him. Well, then you have to always look at the other side and go, why would you trade for him? If he's not playing for them, he's probably not playing for you. So let me get this straight. Expensive and injury prone okay, we'll take him and, you know, use correctly. Maybe, you know, maybe you can get him for pennies on the dollar. Maybe it's a. Like a Golden State with Steve Kerr coming back two more years, maybe you could get where you don't rely on him and get that contribution. But if you're Philly moving forward, they had a good year, surprising year. Like Paul George, I can't count on him to be better next year. I can't count on Embiid to be better. Maxi and Edgecombe, I can count on them. Kelly Oubre played pretty well. Yeah. Paul.

[Paul]

You got two more years of Paul George at $110 million guaranteed.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marvin, you seem so stressed out about the 76ers, but do you think this was a successful season? Because if I tell the naked eye, you just look at that team with the naked eye, like, hey, I have Paul George. I have Tyrese Maxey, I have Joel Embiid. A second round sweep by the Knicks is not a successful season.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think people thought that the Sixers would be this good at the end of the season or at least even get here, because we didn't know about Paul George and we didn't know about Embiid. So I. I don't know. I think their odds at the beginning of the year were 12 to 1 to win it all. And so maybe there were heightened expectations, more than I remember. Yes, Mark, it should be.

[Marvin]

You see how much they're getting paid.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I know, but that doesn't. There's a lot of guys who get paid who aren't good. They're not healthy. Just be. It's not about your paycheck. It's Joel Embiid and Paul George should be good when they're healthy. You know, when that. When you start your sentence with, you know, the Sixers, when they're healthy. Okay, stop, stop. I don't want to hear it.

[Dylan]

Yes, Dylan, I don't think anyone even had them beating the Celtics, including the city of Philadelphia.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, well, that was another thing with the tickets. You know, Philly fans are going to get slammed because they probably sold their tickets yesterday. If I'm a Philly fan, I sell my tickets like game four. The reason why they were selling their tickets is they didn't think they were going to win this series. I mean, it's just a business move. Why is it teams can have business moves, but a fan can't have a business move? Hey, I got a 200 ticket. You want to give me two grand. Sure. I'll go to a pub and watch. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

And if you're a Knicks fan, it's cheaper to take the train park go to the game in Philadelphia, get a hotel room rather than it is just taking a subway and going to the Garden. Those prices are out of control at Madison Square Garden. So why not take a quick train ride or a quick ride to Philadelphia?

[Dan Patrick]

Here is Josh Hart the next guard on taking over Philadelphia. Were you even a little surprised at how. How many McFans were here today? Nah, man, because everybody was begging for

[Dylan]

that, for Philly to not sell their

[Dan Patrick]

tickets and all that stuff. So, man.

[Todd]

Yeah, it's.

[Dan Patrick]

I used to think Philly was a

[Dylan]

sports know if it is anymore, man.

[Dan Patrick]

And Josh Hart went to Villanova. Little shot there. City of Philadelphia Flyers get swept. Phillies fire their manager. 76ers. You got the Eagles, though. You always got the Eagles.

[Marvin]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Dylan, what's poll question first hour of the program.

[Dylan]

All right, Dan, we got a couple wembanyama should be suspended for game five or all good. He got his punishment. Do you have a problem with him being injected yesterday?

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, he needed to be ejected.

[Dylan]

That's cut and dry.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Look, just because they did something doesn't mean you get to do something. And he did load up the elbow. He had intent. I got to throw him. I think now it's. Are you going to find him and or suspend him? I think he paid the punishment being suspended for most of a playoff game and I wouldn't suspend him. Another. But they might find him. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

I was less surprised he got ejected, more surprised that he had to be explained what that means. A flagrant foul too, that he didn't know that that means he's done for the night. I found that to be very wild.

[Dan Patrick]

What else do you have, Dill?

[Dylan]

We could talk a little draft lottery.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I'm gonna wait.

[Dylan]

Wait.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'm going to wait and talk about that. Because Tanking won. Those who tank won paid off in probably the last year that you're going to be able to truly t. Utah was blatant. Blatant. The Wizards finally won. Something felt bad for AJ DeBona because he didn't look like he won the lottery yesterday. It's like, hey, you're not going to go to Utah where you played your college ball with byu. You're. You're going to be a Wizard, huh? Yep. You're going to play with the Wiz. That's where you start going. Who do they got on their team. You know who. Where am I going? Washington. Okay, who did I get? Anthony. He didn't play. Trey Young. Oh, okay. Who else do they have? Don't. Do they have the guy who got punched by Draymond Green? Do they have him? All right, we'll take a break. Phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend. Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls and talk a little bit about the lottery. Coming up after this Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod, pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help you win big at the sportsbook, and all the best guests. Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight fire with Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts every Friday. At the end of the show, I said, the weekend's ready to start. When you hear this, it's Miller time. I raised my glass to Miller Light. They've been doing it for 50 years now. They are iconic. They are the original. They're legendary. That's why I reach for a Miller Light. And you should, too. Enjoy Miller time by enjoying Miller Lite in a place where you're free to enjoy yourself. You can have a walk with a family member. Now's the time. Because the best beers are the ones you don't expect. A taste you can depend on. Great beer. Trusted by beer lovers for 50 years. Simple ingredients, malted barley, that rich, balanced toffee note flavors and that iconic golden color looks gorgeous and it tastes great. Cheers to legendary moments with Miller lite and great taste. 96 calories. You go to millerlight.com Patrick, you'll find delivery options near you. Or pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time all the time, anytime. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. It's Miller time.

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[Paul]

It's a real reaction.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, I I actually felt sorry for the kid because I think he was kind of stunned. But imagine that in life if there was a lottery and we were all waiting to see where we were going to live, where, who we were going to play for, who else is going to be there? It's not the location it's the franchise, the Wizards. Now, I go back to when they were the Bullets and they were a great organization back then, Won an NBA championship. Wes Unselled, Elvin Hayes, Phil Shinier, and a lot of great players. It's been a while since we've been able to say that. Now, the Pacers had the second worst record this season, 19 and 63. They traded a top four protected pick for Avica Subak. He's with the Clippers. And then they just so happen to fall out of the top four. So the pick isn't protected and it goes to the Clippers. So they get Zubak from the Clippers. They gave up two players, two first round picks and a second round pick. Now here's the problem that I have with this. The Clippers were 13 and 38 when they made the trade. Like, what do you, you think you're going on a run? You don't have Halliburton the entire season. That's the biggest problem I have with this. You got 13 wins, your best player's not playing and you're gonna, He's a nice player, but I don't need him. Now. He's probably would have been available after the season. This, everybody knew was a great draft. And you know what, this is where you just say, hey, we're not, we're not tanking. We're just not going to be a competitive team this year. And you know what, you take the hit, you get a top five pick and all of a sudden you turn, you know, turn things around next year. This is a great, great day for the Clippers. But two first round picks, a second round pick, a couple of players, and I went, oh my God. And Kevin Pritchard apologize to the fan base. I think he's the president of basketball operations or the gm, but you don't get that too often where he said, hey, you know what, we tried, didn't work out. And then when you talk about that, you need a little bit of luck. I, I don't want my team relying on luck. I like skill. You know, call me old fashioned, but I like skill. Not. I don't know, I hope we get lucky. I mean, I said that in high school.

[Dylan]

Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. And turns out I did as well as the Pacers did. Yes.

[Dylan]

Dylan, what about it's better to be lucky than good? Well, or neither in this case.

[Dan Patrick]

I want to be good. You know, your luck runs out, as they say, but with the Pacers, and you're going, you got 13 wins and now you're gonna make this deal. You. You weren't going to be competitive. What do I know? Yeah, but I do think this is the last year of truly tanking. And look, Memphis tanked. Utah blatantly tanked. Wizards tanked. They all benefited from this. What if you just said, whenever you're eliminated from the postseason, then you go into the lottery? Everybody gets the same odds. All the teams that don't make the playoffs get the same chances. You get one chance to, you know, go first, second, third, on. On down nine. Don't know if the commissioner would go for that. Probably not. But that way, you take out tanking because it's like, all right, you're bad. And maybe you start to develop players while you're getting ready for next season, and you're going to be in the lottery. Yes, Todd, it could help with the

[Todd]

tanking issue, but then there's always that team or two that they're just naturally terrible. And you could blame the GM or the front office, but that those teams that need to be built up somehow a little bit, they're obviously going to suffer because they weren't tanking. They're just naturally awful.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, well, then you get better. I mean, or you shouldn't be in the job. Like, I can't sit here and go, well, you're bad again. Here you go. Well, you're bad again. Here you go. I mean, Utah was sitting Jaren Jackson Jr III and Laurie Markkanen in the fourth quarter, and marketing is a really good player. Like they were doing. They got fined $500,000 by the NBA. Now, it's not the fine. It's the embarrassment of, you guys are tanking right in front of us. I mean, this is manipulating a game when you think about it. I'm not saying they're throwing a game, but it's in the ballpark of this, because I'm going to. I'm going to sit my two best players in a game that we can win. I mean, imagine in. In any sport where you go, you know what? Why are you sitting. Your. Why is. Why is Patrick Mahomes sitting in the fourth quarter? You know, we just got to protect him. Hey, that's where I'd come down really hard on Utah. I mean, $500,000 is nothing, but there might be, like, a ceiling of how much you can find a team for sitting players. Yes, Paulie, it's not throwing a game.

[Paul]

That word doesn't work here. But it's not like Lori Markin had a ankle sprain that was light, and they said, he's out for the next month. And that's organizational tanking. This was a game where they had a small lead going into the fourth quarter, and the coaching staff or management or both said, we're going to do our best to not win this game. How is that much different?

[Dan Patrick]

I know. I don't like it, but that's. I mean, the NBA has got a couple of problems. Load management is one, tanking is one, and those are really, really important. Certainly the load management, but. But tanking. And look, teams have done this throughout history, but they weren't blatant. I mean, the cavs tanked for LeBron. Somebody was on the coaching staff, said, hey, look, we had, you know, instructions here, and mission accomplished. They got LeBron. So I don't know if you can figure out a way to try to mitigate, you know, the damage of. You've mailed it in. Unless you say, you know, when the 76ers had the process. I'm like, okay, you guys have an idea that you're not going to be good for a few years, let the fan base know, and you meet them halfway. How about we charge you in accordance to how well we play? How about that? A novel approach here. We play great. Tickets are going to be more expensive. We don't play great. Come on in. We still want you to come out and see our players. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

I mean, taking, like, by definition is throwing the game. You're trying not to win the game. When, however, you manage to do that, even if, like. Like Paulie said, you have a small lead, and then you start sitting guys like, if. If anyone in the organization was caught having money on the game, they'd go to prison because they'd be like, you fixed this game for doing that exact same thing.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, I know. We. I. I don't like to use fixing a game, but you kind of are fixing the opportunity for the other team to win the game. Yeah.

[Dylan]

Do you're intentionally trying to generate an unfavorable result that you have control over?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Like, I mean, Obviously it's not 100% apples to apples, but they are very much in the same living room.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, they're in the same fruit salad.

[Dylan]

Exactly. They're the honeydew melon of the fruit salad.

[Dan Patrick]

We'll get phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like 8-7 7-3-DP show Lucas in Texas. Hi, Luke. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. Good morning.

[Dan Patrick]

Good morning.

[Caller]

Just wanted to hit with a quick best and worst of the weekend. A best. It wasn't all just the men's basketball. The WNBA kicked off, and I watched probably the highest percentage of an entire WNBA game that I have. And at least a couple years, it was the Fever and the Wings, and it was just a great game back and forth. There's a ton of playmakers on both teams that came down to a final shot that just barely missed out on the Fevers chance. So just a great experience. I had a couple of family members that never watched the WNBA that were kind of like, oh, wow, they're really good. It was just a lot of fun. I think it could be a good year on the WNBA side. My worst, and I hate to tell this to Fritzi, I think we need to actually just admit that our Astros are actually bad this year. That pitching staff is awful. They're wasting a good offense. So it's just never fun. Early on in a season, realizing that your team might be one of the real stinkers of the season. So definitely worse, but it'll all balance out. Thanks, guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Lucas. They're not Todd's Astros. Todd's Astros are from the 80s.

[Todd]

That is fact that it's fair.

[Dan Patrick]

You would be a faux fan.

[Todd]

I like the old uniforms with the rainbow stripes. And I like the Cesar Sedanos. Ninos, Cabell's and Bob Watson.

[Dan Patrick]

Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach.

[Caller]

Adp. Thanks for taking my call. Best of the weekend was Anthony Edwards. I know he's not considered the best player in the game, but to me, the most exciting to watch. And worst of the weekend, I'm glad it was a happy and healthy baby. But Lamelo Ball, naming his son Leone Ball, that nickname's already taken. That's what the French call Lance Armstrong.

[Dan Patrick]

As my mom would say to all of her children when we had children, you have them, you name them. She never questioned any name. Now, we didn't have any crazy names, but, you know, there. There should be somebody. When you put in the paperwork for a name, there should be like a Judge Judy, an ombudsman there to say. Let's. Let's talk this one out a little bit here. Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin]

We got to start caring about our future. We got to care about our kids.

[Dan Patrick]

It's all about the kids.

[Marvin]

The one ball.

[Dan Patrick]

The one ball.

[Marvin]

No one said that. No. When my wife was pregnant, we literally said the full name. Just. All right, this sounds good.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

Hey, Lawan Lavar. Ball.

[Todd]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

The one ball.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yes. Yes. Dylan, at that point, is it kind

[Dylan]

of on the responsibility of the doctor to be like, guys, it's your kid.

[Dan Patrick]

But the doctor's not there. Well who?

[Dylan]

Someone has to be.

[Dan Patrick]

Who's there? Well, the nurse is there.

[Dylan]

Okay, the nurse then.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, the doctor's gone. He's got other things to do. He's not going. Hey, let's just sit around and think up names.

[Dylan]

I haven't given birth yet before Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

I don't understand like coming up with a unique or odd name where you could even have your kid get picked on or you spell it in a strange way. Does that somehow you're hoping your kid in the future is going to become this creative, special, unique person because they have a unique, odd name. What is the motivation for doing that is my question. What do you think it is?

[Dan Patrick]

I have no idea.

[Todd]

It has to be that, right? If you come up with a unique weird name, he's going to be a unique, special kid and adult because he's so different than everybody with his weird cool name.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, say hello to Hollywood. It's like if you're not naming your son or daughter something different, then what's wrong with you? Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

I mean I've always said Todd, no disrespect, but naming a baby Todd was always funny to me.

[Todd]

I didn't love it. It's grown on man. I love it.

[Dan Patrick]

Or Harry.

[Dylan]

Harry. Harold.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, George.

[Dylan]

There's not a lot of Harolds and George's getting named these days though.

[Dan Patrick]

No, but it's, you know, it'll come around.

[Dylan]

Yeah, it's like fashion.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You know, it's all cyclical. But I remember when we were naming my son and we're going to name after my dad and its name is going to be Jack. And then my mother in law was not having it. She goes, that's not a baby's name. I'm not calling him that. And I said, well then don't call him anything. And then, you know, my wife gets a phone call from, you know, hospital bed and she's like, you know, her mom's ranting about me not, you know, being nice to her about the name we gave my son. She's like, put Dan on the phone. And I'm like, she goes, I, I can't deal with this now. Okay? I said, all right, okay, don't worry about it. You know, he'll grow into a grown up's name. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

I feel like Jack's pretty. Like that's pretty basic. I mean it's not like LA1 or anything like that. Also Jack Patrick has a nice ring to it.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, Jackson, it's a strong name. Yeah, but it's not crazy.

[Dylan]

No, not at all.

[Dan Patrick]

And then my mother in law wanted to call him Johnny, like John Johnny. I go, no, no. And then I go, then let's call him St. Johnny. And then she was like, why would you do that? I said, never mind, it's a sports thing. Call him Mullen. Yes, Dan.

[Paul]

You know, I love this topic. Off the ball name. Solomon Ball is the point guard for UConn basketball. He goes by Solo Ball. Yeah, I would definitely stick with Solomon in that situation. That's an easy fix.

[Todd]

All right.

[Paul]

Another topic I. You mentioned having an ombudsman at the. At the place. So when no one leaves the hospital. Yeah, the hospital. I grew up with a girl named April Showers. Great girl friend of mine, but they named her April Showers. And that's a tough one growing up.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul]

And lastly, most popular boy's name and girl's name in America. I have the list for 2025. You want to take a shot at it?

[Dan Patrick]

I think you should wait. Okay. Because I got the play of the day. More phone calls and we'll get to that right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Dan Patrick]

Oh my God. The play of the day. This is the play of the day. Check this out. Can't get it past slaving. He gets it to Hall. Hall whips it across Blake with a shot. He scores. It's over. Series over. Jackson. Blake wins it in overtime. That's courtesy Hurricanes radio network. Three of the four previous teams open a playoff run with eight consecutive wins. Have gone on to win the Stanley Cup. That's your play of the day. Play of the day has been helping. Well, it's tire rack. They've been helping you find the right tires for how and what and where you drive ship fast and free. Backed by free road hazard protection. Mobile tire installation. Ask about that. A lot of convenient installation options including that. Tirerack.com the way tire buying should be. I saw where Josh Hart of the Knicks has a commercial. Carl Anthony Towns has a commercial. Carl Anthony Towns has a cameo in the Devil Wears Prada too. It's great being a New York Knick when the Knicks are good. Marvin Was saying this to me. He goes, who was more famous, John Starks or Mitch Richmond? I said, not even close. John Starks. Now Mitch is a better player, but John Starks playing for the Knicks. Knicks were playoff team. You know, it's like when you're with the Cowboys, you're famous. You know, other players are great, but you're famous. Duke basketball, you're famous. Yes.

[Marvin]

Mark, like Notre Dame is in that same category. Great player. Notre Dame, really famous.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Paul]

Paul, if you most wanted to not be famous, which is an awkward line, what NBA team would you play for? If you most wanted to hide out,

[Dan Patrick]

Sacramento would be up there.

[Marvin]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Now I have a soft spot in my heart for Sacramento. I do watch their games. I do. I, I, Somebody has to. And I, I do watch them. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

That's why I feel like Chris Weber's underrated. Only because he made Sacramento relevant. And they were on national TV week in and week out.

[Dan Patrick]

That team was really good, though.

[Marvin]

Oh, I know. But it started with the Chris Weber trade.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Mitch Richmond. Yeah.

[Marvin]

And it's like, man, Sacramento. And he turned them into a contender.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

You know, it's funny. A few years ago, OKC would have been a great place to hide out for a little bit.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. It might still be.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

But Chad Holmgren has a commercial with sga. I don't know if they're getting too many national ones. They win another title, then maybe I don't like when we try to force somebody into being popular or. Because there are times when I'll see a commercial and I'll go, I don't know who that is, but they must be a social media influencer. And then I'll ask my daughters, like, who is that? And then they'll, you don't know, but, you know, whoever. I'll go, no, I don't. But I'll find out. All right, Paulie, before the commercial break, said, most popular baby names in the United States, 2025. LaMelo Ball and his partner had a child and named him One Ball.

[Paul]

They did do it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Le one ball. Don't you have to do Le two Ball? Or, you know, maybe a three point specials like a Le three ball in the side pocket. Thank you, Todd.

[Paul]

Careful.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah. Gotta have a couple meetings there. All right, the most popular boys name.

[Paul]

We're gonna start with girls.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, girls. Okay, okay.

[Paul]

All right, I'm gonna give you a hint.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paul]

The number one name in America last year for a girl baby, obviously. Four years in a row. Champion. This is the four straight year. Okay, we'd like a shot.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin's got his hand up already.

[Marvin]

Amelia.

[Paul]

No, that's seventh.

[Dan Patrick]

Dang. Yes. Todd.

[Paul]

Check that. Amelia's fourth.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd.

[Todd]

Caitlin.

[Paul]

Not on the list.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow. Kendall.

[Paul]

Not in the top 10.

[Dan Patrick]

Now. It is in my household, of course. Yes. Dill.

[Dylan]

Ashley would spell like, a dumb way, like L, E, I, G, H or something like that.

[Paul]

No and no. Not in the top 10. All right, I'll give you some hints. Sophia, Evelyn. Isabella. Mia. Sophia. Amelia. Emma. Charlotte. And the number one is. Any last guess for the fourth straight year, Olivia is number one.

[Dan Patrick]

Olivia. Tyler likes that name. Olivia. Oh, geez.

[Paul]

You gotta give me a warning.

[Dan Patrick]

Our. Our former cleaning lady.

[Paul]

Oh, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Her name was Olivia, and Tyler called her live. That was his live tour.

[Todd]

May have to run you here. I may have to run you right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, you're gonna run me, bro.

[Paul]

Code violation.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah. Okay. What's up, Ty? Boys names now.

[Paul]

Okay, top 10. Here's a hint. A lot of these names almost seem European or British, including the top one.

[Dan Patrick]

Francis.

[Paul]

I don't have Francis in the top two.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Marvin.

[Marvin]

Liam.

[Paul]

Liam is number one overall. Who would else? Who would like to go for two, three, or four?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Dylan.

[Dylan]

Jalen.

[Paul]

Jalen. Not in the top ten.

[Dan Patrick]

Dang. Yes. Mark.

[Marvin]

Henry.

[Paul]

Henry is fifth. A couple hints. Lucas. William Mateo, making its debut on the Ace spot. Elijah. James. Theodore. And then there's two more.

[Dan Patrick]

Jack.

[Paul]

Jack has fallen out of the top 10 for the first time. Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey. Okay.

[Paul]

Dylan did not make it. Oliver is third. Paste eater.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paul]

And Noah is second.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no. Hey, thanks, Paul. Yeah. Billy in Iowa. Hi, Billy. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Good morning, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. And to the crew as well. Love watching you on Peacock. I have a best and a worst. I have a personal best. And then a quick question.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Caller]

Best. Seeing the Timberwolves play and seeing that Illinois flavor that they have is really awesome. Hope they can continue that. The Sixers, the worst. My gosh. I didn't expect them to win the series, but win a game. A personal best. Today is the 30th anniversary of me and my bride Jennifer to be married. So I love that. Love her to death. And then I also sent a show. The show. An email on April 20th. I hope you got a chance to read it. I went through a major medical thing, and you guys were there to help me deal in the recovery. I'm kind of on the other side of it, but I'm doing. Taking care of a Thing. And I just wanted to give my appreciation and thanks to the show.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, happy anniversary and thank you, Billy. Thank you for sharing. Michael in Nashville. Hey, Mike. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. How's it going? The other day, I was thinking when the show ends, I thought it would be kind of a cool idea if

you and the Dan at stock, we could let y' all could host a

really big party for everybody going away and like, sell tickets to the event. It seems like everybody could all say kind of goodbye together. And I thought it'd be kind of cool to meet some of the regulars, like James and Virginia. Gus in LA and Buddha was curious

what you guys thought about that.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, somebody came to me and said, what about a cruise? And we all got on a cruise and then we invited people to get on a cruise. But given what's going on with cruises right now, probably not a good thing. But, yeah, I. I was broached with the possibility of hosting a cruise. I don't know where we're going. I don't. So. But they were like, oh, yeah, you could have like five days and then, you know, you could have. Musical guest. Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin]

What about one big live show in like a theater? Like a Q A. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

I thought the retirement is less work for me.

[Marvin]

I said before 2028.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, I'm getting. I'll take it under consideration. Probably means no.

[Marvin]

Do what you want to do.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd is in the confessional coming up. If you're watching on Peacock. One hour in the books on this Monday. Best and worst of the weekend. More phone calls coming up right after this.

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