Hour 1 - Worst Losses of Week 11, A New Heisman Candidate

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – November 17, 2025 (Hour 1)

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A deep dive into the dramatic and surprising results of NFL Week 11, debates about the league’s best teams, worst losses, and the evolving landscape for the Heisman Trophy race. Lively banter, insider takes, callers’ best and worst moments, and candid conversations about the intersection of sports performance, media narratives, and team fandom.

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Episode Overview

Dan Patrick and the Danettes (Paulie, Todd, Marvin, Dylan in for Seaton) recap an NFL weekend full of upsets, ugly performances, and playoff implications. They argue over which teams suffered the “worst loss,” debate which top contenders are for real, and analyze the increasingly murky Heisman Trophy race. The hour features candid critiques, humor, interactive polls, and thoughtful calls from listeners about the weekend’s highs and lows.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Week 11 Fallout – Are the Contenders Legit?

• Questioning Top Teams:

  • Dan opens by sharing confusion about the true quality of several supposed contenders:

    “Are the Lions that good? Are the Chiefs that good? Are the Ravens that good? Are the Seahawks that good? I’m not quite sure…” (07:03)

  • Both Dan’s preseason Super Bowl picks—the Lions and Chiefs—lost, and now look vulnerable as the playoff race tightens.

• Lions vs. Eagles Recap:

  • Lions’ aggressive play calling by Dan Campbell is questioned:

    “Sometimes three points is okay. I like to… it feels like it's a participatory three points. …That hurt the Lions.” (06:23)

  • Goff critiqued as “vanilla,” while the Eagles’ defense earns praise but Jalen Hurts’ passing draws skepticism.

    “I'm not going to my grave saying Jalen Hurts is going to beat you through the air.” (06:47)

• Chiefs’ Struggles & Playoff Picture:

  • Chiefs’ continued mediocrity after loss to Broncos. Patrick Mahomes sounds “scripted” in his postgame comments.

  • Dan on Mahomes:

    “It’s like you pull a string and he just spits out an answer… there used to be a doll called Chatty Cathy and… she would just say, you know, these scripted things. That's what it sounds like after a loss like that.” (14:16)

  • Despite being 5-5, Chiefs are “still dangerous if they get in.” Dan projects their remaining schedule and expects about 10 wins.

• Poll: Worst Loss of the Weekend

  • Candidates: Chiefs, Lions, Seahawks, Chargers.
  • Dan and the Danettes agree the Chargers (scoring only 6 points at Jacksonville) are most disappointing.

    “Just six points. I mean, come on, what are we doing?” (09:58)

  • Poll update: “Chargers running away with that at about 55%.” (47:52)

2. Ugly Wins and Defensive Dominance

• Rams’ Ugly Win: Four interceptions from Sam Darnold yet nearly lost to Seattle.

  “That Seattle defense is good, but if you’re the Rams… why is this team still in the game?” (07:35)

• Ravens’ Unimpressive Victory:

  “The Ravens won, but … that's not one of those where you go, yeah … Lamar Jackson didn’t look good at all.” (12:58)

• Poll: Worst Win of the Weekend
  • Leading: Ravens with “about 57%.” (47:52)
• Miles Garrett’s Sack Milestone:

  “He has at least 12 sacks in six consecutive seasons. That broke the record NFL record of five straight seasons set by Lawrence Taylor.” (16:21)

3. Jamar Chase/Jalen Ramsey Spitting Controversy

• Incident: Camera caught Jamar Chase appearing to spit at Jalen Ramsey during the Bengals game, triggering debate about appropriate punishment.
  • Dan is adamant:

    “You have to come down really hard on him. …there should be a real deterrent. … Sit him out for a couple of games.” (28:55)

  • Dan, tongue-in-cheek: “Jalen Ramsey is allowed to punch Jamar Chase if you spit on me, you’re allowed to punch that guy.” (29:15)
  • Paulie on the violation:

    “You could hit someone, you could declete someone… this is beyond. And everyone agrees with him.” (30:56)

4. Heisman Race – A New Contender?

• Discussion on Heisman Candidates:

  • Dan highlights Georgia's Gunner Stockton (“five total touchdowns … he’s playing in big games”) and calls Jeremiah Love (Notre Dame) “the best player in the country right now.”

    “He is playing at a different level.” (24:56)

  • Ohio State’s Julian Sayin and Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza also in the mix.

• Running Backs and “Cupcake Weekend”:

  • Noted shift away from running backs in the award race.

    “Granted we don’t single out or highlight RBs the way we once did…” (25:14)

  • Paulie brings up “Cupcake Weekend”—easy matchups before rivalry/major games.

5. Listener Callers – Best & Worst of the Weekend

• Memorable Fan Moments:
  • Chris in Syracuse: Raves about Wemby’s highlight dunks and mourning Kenny Easley’s passing. (32:53)
  • David in Ohio: Best = Steelers’ win; Worst = Gamecocks’ collapse after blowing a 30-3 lead.
  • Atlanta Falcons fan Al in Atlanta:

    “I actually threatened to sue my parents for child abuse for moving me from Kansas to Atlanta as a child and making me a Falcon fan… I have nothing left with football and… it’s the worst.” (48:48)

  • Dan’s humor and empathy:

    “You’re not going to quit, Al. I know you. You’re not a quitter. But your teams might be, but you’re not a quitter.” (49:52)

• Fandom Pronouns Bit:
  • Jimmy in Oklahoma calls out Todd for switching between “we” and “they” when talking about his Broncos:

    “Your pronouns, your pronouns are all over the place… anytime he says we, you gong him.” (36:23)

  • Todd admits,

    “It should always be we… I slip sometimes with they because I get frustrated…” (37:12)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Jalen Hurts:
  “I'm not going to my grave saying Jalen Hurts is going to beat you through the air.” (06:47, Dan Patrick)

• On scripted athlete interviews:
  “It's like you pull a string and then he just spits out an answer. There used to be a doll called Chatty Cathy...” (14:16, Dan Patrick on Mahomes’ post-loss quote)

• On ugly wins:
  “The Rams had an ugly win. Yep, that's an ugly win. … Seattle lost that game. Didn’t feel like the Rams were winning that game.” (48:06, Dan Patrick)

• On fan misery:
  “I actually threatened to sue my parents for child abuse for moving me from Kansas to Atlanta as a child and making me a Falcon fan.” (48:48, Caller Al in Atlanta)

• On the Game Day atmosphere:
  “If you want 10,000 people to show up at 6 am in the dark in Eugene, Oregon, you got it, you can't just break down games calmly. It has to be a show.” (40:27, Paulie)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:07: Show opens post-commercials, Dan sets up the NFL discussion and playoff uncertainties.
• 06:20: Lions/Eagles breakdown and criticism of aggressive coaching.
• 07:35: Super Bowl odds debate and skepticism over team performances.
• 09:38: Poll question: "Worst loss in the NFL this weekend?"
• 12:58: Ravens’ win described as “not impressive,” Lamar Jackson criticized.
• 13:53-14:16: Mahomes’ “Chatty Cathy” quote after Chiefs’ loss (audio played and critiqued).
• 15:29: Consideration of “worst win” poll (Ravens leading).
• 16:19: Miles Garrett sack milestone.
• 28:55-30:56: In-depth discussion of Jamar Chase spitting incident; calls for strong punishment.
• 24:49-25:54: Heisman race and potential dark horse candidate Gunner Stockton.
• 32:53-35:27: Calls from listeners; best and worst of the weekend, sports tragedies and heroics.
• 47:04: Play of the Day: Packers’ Christian Watson touchdown catch (audio highlight).
• 47:52: Poll results update – Chargers worst loss; Ravens worst win.
• 48:48-49:52: Atlanta Falcons fan laments his miserable fandom; Dan offers commiseration and wit.

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Structure & Flow

• Show moves briskly: Dan & the Danettes jump between headline results, football analytics, social issues (spitting controversy), and fan interaction.
• Tone: Friendly, irreverent, knowledgeable—mix of humor, sharp criticism, and genuine sports analysis.
• Frequent quick polls, running jokes (pronouns, “Chatty Cathy”), stats.
• Call-in segments peppered throughout; hosts play off one another’s quirks and opinions.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode serves as a comprehensive “Monday Morning Quarterback” unpacking of what matters—and what’s frustrating—after another wild NFL Sunday. If you want context on which teams are for real, which losses sting the most, evolving Heisman races, or if you just need to hear a group of sports fans wrestle with the agony and joy of fandom, Hour 1 delivers it all—plus a good laugh and plenty of insights to fuel your own debates.

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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on FOX Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody. Gang's all here. Seaton still on the road. We'll check in with him. He's made it to Vegas. The big German in the TV truck made it to Vegas as well. And we will be out there Thursday and Friday. You can join us at the fountain blue. And Dylan is in for seating today. Fritz, he's here. Marv, Paulie, yours truly and of course the back room guys as well. Great response to the calendars. We have autograph non autograph calendars [e-mail] also check out the tailgate store. See how you can get an autograph calendar with select tailgate purchases while supplies last stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. We will have phone calls as we always do every Monday. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. 877 3DP show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. He was the first person I heard who fell in love with Drake May. He's Tim Hasselbeck, former quarterback. He works for the Mothership. I want him to take a victory lap. He'll join us coming up next hour. Football tonight, Cowboys three and a half point favorites at the Raiders. We'll recap all the football. There were some ugly football yesterday. There was some entertaining football. There's also some situations that probably warrant a closer look. Are the Lions that good? Are the Chiefs that good? Are the Ravens that good? Are the Seahawks that good? I'm not quite sure because both of my super bowl teams lost yesterday, the Lions and the Chiefs, and they're on the outside of the playoff picture looking in and I start to wonder here, you know, NFC north is tough sledding here and it's not a foregone conclusion that the Lions are the best team in that division. And they might be, but you know, everybody else is capable of providing a scare or maybe, you know, maybe Green Bay wakes up and realizes you got a defense that's this good and you might blow this opportunity. Josh Jacobs and that injury, the severity of that, their season could hinge on that. He's that valuable. But in no particular order, you know, watching the Eagles with the Lions last night. Jared Goff, vanilla. Now, I'm going to give the, you know, the defense a whole lot of credit here because the Eagles defense is still pretty good. The offense, the, you know, and, and if you're relying on Jalen hurts to throw almost 30 passes, that concerns me. Yeah, because it's. It should be starting with Saquon Barkley. The teams are doing a pretty good job saying, all right, let's see if Jalen hurts can beat us. And I wouldn't, I wouldn't go to my grave saying, jalen hurts going to beat you through the air. Bad call at the end. That was offensive pass interference. But, you know, Detroit just, you know, you're going to have that aggressive play calling from Dan Campbell, and you're going for it on fourth down. You know, at some point, you got to realize maybe your team in that game, in that moment is not going to pick up the first down. And sometimes three points is okay. I'm okay. I like to, you know, it feels like it's a participatory three points. Hey, you got to get something here. All right, we'll give you three points. I don't want to come away with nothing. And that hurt. That hurt the Lions, the Chiefs. And I kept waiting, kept waiting, still waiting. And give Denver's defense a whole lot of credit. And Bo Nicks made some plays. That's what you want. You know, Tony Romo was talking about that. You know, give me that kind of defense and give me a quarterback who can make plays in the fourth quarter, which kind of sounds like the Chiefs, but here they are average and maybe not making the playoffs. But if they do make the playoffs, you know, I'm looking at the odds here, you know, because I'm curious about super bowl odds after this weekend. The team with the best odds to win the Super Bowl. Todd, I'll start with you. Who does DraftKings have the number one team?

[Todd Fuhrman]

I think they're still going to go with the Chiefs.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Marvin, the Bills.

[Paulie]

Paul, the Rams.

[Dan Patrick]

Dylan, the Eagles. It's the Rams followed closely by the Eagles. Then it's the Bills, Colts, Seahawks and Chiefs are tied. Then it's the Lions, Ravens, Broncos and then the Patriots. So this is according to DraftKings this morning. And the Rams got four interceptions from Sam Darnold and could have Lost the game. That Seattle defense is good, but if you're the Rams, you're like, why is this team still in the game? You couldn't put them away. The Eagles, Buffalo, that's a big win. You know, this is a depleted Tampa Bay team. Give credit, Tampa. You know, at least being on the road and putting up a fight there. Josh Allen, that's pretty incredible stat line for him. The Seahawks with the loss in the Chiefs, the Lions, the Ravens won, but it wasn't. That's not one of those where you go, yeah, you kind of go, yeah. I mean, Dylan Gabriel has not played well, but if he stays in, Cleveland probably wins that game. And Shador Sanders got in. Look, the offensive line is not good. And also he has no pocket awareness. None. Now, that probably stems from not trusting your offensive line, but they still could have won the game. The Broncos, that defense, you know, when you're, when you're getting the Chiefs to settle for field goals, you are in great shape. But you know, they're, they're putting pressure on Mahomes. You get nine hits on him. So that's just some of the Cliff Notes version of what we saw with the NFL. This first hour, brought to you by the great folks at Tire Rack. Helping you find the right tires for how and what and where you drive ship fast and free, backed by free road hazard protection, convenient installation options like mobile tire installation. Tire rack.com is the way tire buying should be. All right, Dylan, you're in for Seaton. You come up with the poll question today.

[Dylan]

All right, Dan, so Paulie sent me this. We're going to kind of populate the answers. Who had the worst loss in the NFL this weekend? Okay, we've got some options here. Chiefs, Lions, bucks, Seahawks, Chargers.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, my gosh, the Chargers. Yes, I know. Just six points. I mean, come on, what are we doing? There's a couple of teams that were just going to go. Let me wait until the playoffs. And the Chargers are one of those teams. Seattle's one of those teams where I don't care what your record is now. You gotta produce in a big way in a big moment. And I don't trust those teams.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, the chargers are still 7 and 4. They're still doing well in the division. I could find you articles from September where Justin Herbert was the leader for MVP and the Chargers were the hot team. And they score six points at Jacksonville.

[Dan Patrick]

So I'm looking at the Chiefs here. They got the Colts at home. The Chiefs are at the Cowboys. They host the Texans they host the Chargers, they're at the Titans, they host the Broncos, and then they're at the Raiders, okay, they could end up with 10 wins. They could, they could easily, in my opinion, 10 wins. Because let's say they beat the Colts, they beat the Cowboys, they beat the Texans, they beat the Chargers, they're at the Titans, they could win that. I mean, they got the Broncos at home. This is not a difficult. That's why Vegas still likes the Chiefs as one of the super bowl favorites. They're five and five and we know how dangerous they are. I don't care what their record is, just as long as they get in. I'm looking at the Ravens because Vegas likes the Ravens to win that division and with the injury to Aaron Rodgers. So the Ravens have the jets at home, Bengals at home, Steelers at home, Then they're at the Bengals, Patriots in Baltimore, then they're at Green Bay, and then they're at Pittsburgh, okay, so they could end up with nine wins. They, they could go nine and seven. If I look at the Lions, the Lions at six and four, they host the Giants, they host the packers, they host the Cowboys, okay, they could win all three. Then they're at the Rams, Steelers at home, they're at the Vikings and at the Bears, okay, the division games are, that's what's tricky here with Detroit. I, I could look at Detroit winning 10 games. Giants at home, packers at home, Cowboys at home, Steelers. Yeah, I, I could see 10 wins for them. I could see 10 wins for the Chiefs, maybe, maybe 11. Baltimore, I could see maybe nine wins. But you know, it depends on when you're playing, who you're playing. Like you can't afford a loss to the jets or the Bengals are coming to town, you know, even the Steelers, you, But that's always a tough game. That's knockdown, drag, out. Then you're at the Bengals, Patriots come to town, you're at Green Bay and at Pittsburgh. Okay, so it gets a little, little tougher there. But I could see them nine wins, maybe 10 Chiefs, I would look at 10 wins and the Lions probably got the Giants, Packers, Cowboys. Okay, they could win all three at the Rams. Not good. Steelers at home. Okay, so I'll give them 10 wins, give them 10 wins. The thing with the Ravens is they don't look good. Like Lamar Jackson didn't look good at all. I mean, when you're getting out played by Dylan Gabriel like that to me was alarming because I thought, okay, just a two time MVP and he wasn't playing well, at all. Yeah. Paul.

[Paulie]

Going back to the Chiefs. I don't know if this is legal, and I think it's called collusion, but can all the AFC teams share notes on how to keep the Chiefs out of the playoffs? It's like when Michael Jordan left to go play baseball. If they missed the playoffs. It's like, oh, it's, it's open now.

[Todd Fuhrman]

It's.

[Paulie]

Everyone has a chance.

[Dan Patrick]

Here's Patrick Mahomes after the loss. Obviously, it's going to be tough, tough to get back in the division race, but at the end of the day, all the goal is to get into the playoffs and try to make a run at it. And all you can focus on is next week. You got to learn from this one as much as possible, knowing that we're going to get a great, great opponent coming into Arrowhead this next week. And we're kind of at that point.

[Todd Fuhrman]

Where we got to find a way.

[Dan Patrick]

Just to win football games and gotta, gotta keep moving forward. That's what this league's all about. It's like you pull a string and then he just spits out an answer. There used to be a doll called Chatty Cathy and you pulled the string. And then she would just say, you know, these scripted things. That's what it sounds like after a loss like that. Tough loss like that. All right, we're 5 and 5. We're average, but we're above average when we get to the postseason. It's like the Eagles yesterday, they didn't look good, but that's a big win. You know, style, points in college, it matters not in the NFL, but you got the win. Wasn't pretty. And still goes back to the Jalen hurts. He's an average passing quarterback, but he's an above average quarterback when it gets to the postseason. And that's what this is all about. Seattle, though, watching that, I kept thinking they could win this game. Unbelievable punt to pin them back, you know, in the like one yard line. Unbelievable punt and then you're trying to get into field goal range. They had a chance and could have won that game, which is crazy. All right, what else do we have? Dill, that's all.

[Dylan]

So I just posted that one, Dan. We went with Chiefs, Lions, Seahawks, Chargers for the worst loss. We could also do worst win. There was a few of those poor example.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, is the Ravens win a bad win for a team that has been terrible and just getting to 500?

[Dylan]

I would say so. I mean, they got, they got to. They won by seven against Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders.

[Dan Patrick]

The Rams had an ugly win. Yep, that's an ugly win. By the way, Miles Garrett had four sacks in that game. You know, you pencil him in for 15 sacks every, it feels like every year. And but I think he's had nine of his. Does he have 15 sacks this year? Nine of his 15 have come in two games.

[Paulie]

Yeah, he's got 15 in 10 games.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

I don't need to do the math, but I think he's on pace for 28.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And nobody is going to care or they're not going to be important sacks, though. But that, that's pretty amazing though. He's the, let's see said four sacks. He has at least 12 sacks in six consecutive seasons. That broke the record NFL record of five straight seasons set by Lawrence Taylor. Stat of the day, Stat of the day, Stat of the day, Stat of the day. Here comes that. What? Stat of the day. First ballot hall of Famer and nothing else to show for it. That's unfortunate. And I thought he was on his way out and then all of a sudden, you know, the Browns have to give you an offer you can't refuse. Deshaun Watson, here's an offer you can't refuse. Miles Garrett, here's an offer you can't refuse. That's not how the only way they can keep people. And you know, another thing with the Bengals laws, I'm not bringing back Joe Burrow now. Not going to bring him back. And, and we'll talk about what happened with Jamar Chase and Jalen Ramsey because the NFL has got to come down hard on Jamar Chase. Hard on him. We'll talk about that coming up. We'll get to your phone calls as well. Best and worst of the weekend. We'll recap the college football weekend as well. And maybe, maybe there's a front runner to the Heisman that nobody's talking about. Have that for you coming up as well. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to.

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All right, let me try it. Mmm. Okay. Yeah, totally. Winner, winner chicken breakfast. I'm gonna have to keep this right here. Make sure every breakfast is a winner with the delicious new bacon, egg and chicken biscuit from AM PM ampm. Too much Good Stuff Got our poll question, play of the day coming up and get to your phone calls as well. Before we went to our commercial break, I said that there might be a surprise. I'm not going to say Heisman front runner because it feels like it's going to be between Fernando Mendoza or Julian say in Ohio State and Indiana quarterbacks. But I would put in Georgia's quarterback, Gunner Stockton because that's a big time game. Against Texas. He had five total touchdowns, 24, 29 for 229. And he's playing in big games. Playing for Georgia. Feels like his one moment though his one highlight was when he got his helmet knocked off in the playoffs last year. You remember that play, it was like wow. And got. He stayed in as well. But I think he's played really, really well. This is going to be close. I think this will be. I mean, Julian say is completing 80% of his passes and Ohio State's the number one team in the country. Fernando Mendoza is a good story. Transferring in from Cal, Indiana's number two in the country. You know that showdown with Ohio State for the Big Ten title. I don't know, it's tough. Now if you said who is the best player in the country? He's Jeremiah Love at Notre Dame because those are mo like he is playing at a different level. Now granted we don't, you know, single out or highlight running backs the way we once did, but the plays that he makes, well, really that backfield is wonderful with Notre Dame and you know, they beat Pit at Pit and Pitts the 22nd ranked team in the country and they roughed him up. But Jeremiah Love has had some highlights. He's had some moments there and, and look, I have a vote and you know, there's still a few weeks left to play. Although this weekend this is one of those we get to play somebody not very good as we get ready for a really big game. Yes. Paul.

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Dan.

[Paulie]

It's called cupcake weekend. Historically in college football, Samford. Not Stanford.

[Caller]

Stanford.

[Paulie]

Samford is at Texas A and M. Sanford is 1 in 10 A and M is 10 0. There's not even a line on this game as of right now. I got you, Charlotte. University of Charlotte 1 in 9 at Georgia. The spreads 44 1/2. Eastern Illinois 3 and 8 is at Alabama. No line.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

It's just a wasted weekend.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. And you had some almost upsets again the last two weeks in college football. It's been the almost. You know, Iowa, Michigan was on the ropes as well. You know you see you had some game and give credit to Oklahoma. Man, that defense was wonderful. It was great. And you got a great quarterback at Alabama and they put some heat on him.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, I saw some people in the media saying there's still a way, a path for Texas to make the playoffs beyond the record. They just don't look threatening. Is that fair?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think they're that good. Yeah, I think we keep waiting. You know, you got Arch Manning, you got all this money, you've got Sark as your offensive minded head coach. But you got, you know, that's, that's there's losses and then there's an SEC loss like they got roughed up. Georgia said this is how you play football. I think they held them to 19 yards rushing and Arch, you know, didn't look bad. It's just Georgia played Georgia football plain and simple and that's where you go, okay. Sometimes it is different with some of these teams. All right, we'll get to phone calls. Coming up. Still waiting for an injury update on Aaron Rodgers and it's his non passing hand. If there's a fracture there, can he wear a cast, a soft cast? Josh Jacobs with the packers after the win. I'm not going to put that on Jameis Winston. I do believe his receiver either cut short his route when he threw that final interception. But I did watch a lot more of that game just because of James Winston entertaining as always.

[Dylan]

Yes, Dylan, I did lose that parlay which was over one and a half touchdowns and over half an interception. I got, I got the interception part at the very at the buzzer. But James ran one in though which.

[Dan Patrick]

The situation that we saw with the Steelers in the Browns. We should get some sound on this, Marvin. There's sound on this. We should have that because Jalen Ramsey said, you know they, he was drawn back and forth with Jamar Chase and you know Jalen Ramsey loves to do that. Jamar Chase does as well. And then all of a sudden whatever Jalen Ramsey said to Jamar Chase and then Ramsey said he spit in my face and the officials didn't see it in the moment. But there is a camera angle that does have that way does spit in his face. I mean he truly he was, he was trying to spit through his windshield there that he had in his helmet. Jamar Chase denied it which try telling that to the NFL home office. But this is where you have to come down really hard on him. You know, I'm going to suspend him like I want to. I there should be a real deterrent of, you're out for this game and you're out for the next game. How about you write a letter of apology to say I'm sorry that I treated you less than human. Sit him out for a couple of games. I mean, Jalen Ramsey is allowed to punch Jamar Chick. If you spit on me, you're allowed to punch that guy. And I hope they rescind whatever punishment they're going to have for Jalen Ramsey or cut it down or, you know what? Better yet, make Jamar Chase pay for it. But to me, there's. There's just no call for that. There's no room for that. There's no. Well, he said this, that there isn't. I mean, Jalen Carter, there's no excuse for that. And I know it happens. I know it's happened. I know the old NFL had happened. I realized that. And you've had some notable players. Mean Joe Green accused of spitting on an offensive lineman. I know it happens, but it shouldn't happen. I would make it a strong, strong, strong deterrent. And I would sit him out for a couple of games. I would not bring back Joe Burrow to play. I don't want him running around. You have nothing to play for. If you had won a couple of these games, then maybe. But I would sit Jamar Chase down and I would let the rest of the league know, if you get caught doing this, we're sitting you down for two. You're going to lose two game checks. Yes, Todd.

[Todd Fuhrman]

And it'll be bad enough if you apologized in a timely fashion, even if it was created by a PR person, but then to double down and admit multiple times that you didn't do it makes it that much worse.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I don't know if he thought, well, nobody's going to see this, but, you know, close proximity and there's always a camera angle on somebody at some time. And these two had been going at it. So they had had a couple of plays in a row where they've been going back, back and forth. And I think both were acknowledging, hey, this is kind of what we do. But I don't know what Jalen Ramsey said that would have triggered getting spit on. It doesn't matter what he says. Nothing should trigger getting spit on in a situation like that.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paul and Jalen Ramsey, after the game, he was pretty cool about it. And the reporters were asking about it, and he's like, we don't do that. Guys don't do that. You could hit someone, you could declete someone. You could. All these other things. He goes, this is beyond. And everyone agrees with him.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. We should have Jamar Chase's response, because all he has to do is when somebody says to him, hey, did you spit on him? And then he says, I never opened my mouth, you know, and then he goes on to give his explanation. Oh, it's a yes or no. Did you spit on him? No. That's your answer. Not a long winded way of saying that he didn't. It felt like the longer he talked, the more guilty he was. And it turns out that's the case. Yeah, Dylan.

[Dylan]

I mean, if I was Jamar Chase and I knew that I spit on him, I would probably say, no, I didn't do. And be like, hopefully they don't see.

[Dan Patrick]

There'S no camera angle. Yeah, it's. That was bad. It's bad. Yeah, Dill. Oh.

[Dylan]

And I think it probably didn't help too, because Ramsey has had a bit of a reputation as being a hothead throughout his career. So I imagine at first glance, they just looked over, saw him hit Jamar Chase, and were like, all right, we know it's you. Dead to rights.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, they usually get the guy who retaliates. So, you know, everybody got to see it. And he takes the, you know, punch at him. And then you. You realize that there's more to it.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paul, it does feel like such a violation. Like, you know, if you were in line at a Starbucks and you got into it with another person and they spit on you and you hit them, I think if you went to a court, you get off. If there's video of someone spitting in your face and you almost defended yourself or your honor, I think you get off.

[Dan Patrick]

But I'm gonna have to suspend you from Starbucks, though. You can't go to Starbucks. I mean, there's gotta be a penalty.

[Paulie]

That would be tough for you.

[Dan Patrick]

That would be really tough. And that's why I'm always on my best behavior when I go to Starbucks. Alrighty. A couple of phone calls, Chris in Syracuse. Good morning, Chris. Lead us off. Best and worst of the weekend.

[Caller]

Hey, thank you, Dan.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Best and worse. And also, I saw a piece in the most read publication in our nation, maybe the world, the Wall Street Journal, November 14, page B4. It was about NBC Universal launching its new network, NBC sn. And the first show it mentioned, in fact, the only show it mentioned was the Dan Patrick show. You know, 20 years or so ago, you left the safety security of ESPN for the complete unknown and yeah. That gamble paid off for you, the Danets, and especially for your audience and fans. My best Wemby, Friday night versus the Warriors. Wemby throws a pass to himself off the backboard for a jam, and then he catches an inbound pass with one hand and dunks over Draymond Green. And then he gets in Draymond's space.

Yeah. Yeah.

This year he's definitely added a little edge and sandpaper to his game, which I like. And my worst, hearing that the great defensive back Kenny Easley passed away at 66. And I always thought he was a little underrated, maybe because he played in Seattle, but I put him up up there.

Right.

With the greats like Ronnie Lott.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Kenny easily could hurt you. Yeah. And sometimes where you play, you know how much recognition you get. You know, I got some blowback because I said, if Cal Raleigh played for the Yankees and Aaron Judge played for Seattle, who's winning? You know, the mvp. But, hey, I stand by it. Yeah, I. I stand by that statement. Aaron Judge is a first ballot hall of Famer, but location had something to do with that vote. Plain and simple. They would build a statue or they would have some kind of plaque if cal Raleigh hit 60 home runs playing catcher for the New York Yankees. Plain, simple. Yes.

[Paulie]

When you say blowback, did people think you were dinging Judge?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Oh, then they didn't understand your point. You're talking about the landscape of the media and the coverage.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, yeah.

[Paulie]

My name.

[Dan Patrick]

I can't have everybody be on our level of intelligence.

[Paulie]

Yeah, that's us. Mensa. We put the men in Mensa.

[Dan Patrick]

David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. Got a best and worst of the weekend here real quick. Steelers finally woke up from their winter hibernation this weekend against the Bengals. Like Tony Phil popping out, beating the Bengals. And worst of the weekend, got to go to the South Carolina GameCocks, blowing a 30 to 3 lead against Texas A and M, pulling a full Atlanta Falcons and giving up 28 unanswered to lose 31 to 30 in the biggest collapse in school history. Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

And the news came out prior to the game that Mike Elko was going to get a contract extension. So everybody benefits. When. When there's job openings and your name gets mentioned, that's when you go right into the chancellor, president or athletic director and say, I'd like to stay. And then all of a sudden these guys get, you know, extension. Although we're waiting for Lane Kiffin. Seems like it's taking a little bit longer. A little bit longer. See, you know, here you are before the game, you're a big favorite, like 24 point favorite against South Carolina. And all of a sudden you're down 30 to 3. And then Paulie sent out a note. He goes, yeah, they're talking about a contract extension for Mike Elko. And then they come back and win that game. Win that game to keep their national title hopes alive. Crazy Jimmy in Oklahoma. Hi, Jimmy. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, D.P. what's going on?

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, man.

[Caller]

Hey. Hey, Fritzi, let's go. Broncos nine or two.

[Todd Fuhrman]

Yeah, man, let's go.

[Caller]

Hey, not so fast, my friend. Not so fast. I am very disappointed in you and I love you, but the word's disappointed when you use they and we. And now you're on we. But you were on they. Your pronouns, your pronouns are all over the place. And you take that hat off your head, sit on a desk and Dan, I beg you, anytime he says we, you gong him.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay? Thank you, Jimmy. All right, Todd, you have to make up your mind. Is it they or is it we? When it comes to the Broncos. This is over the next two and a half years. Are they they or are they we?

[Todd Fuhrman]

It should always be we. I slip sometimes with they because I get frustrated on a bad penalty or a game they should have won or what have you. And then you start distancing yourself. It sounds like you're distancing yourself because you're using they, but it's always we.

[Dan Patrick]

Now, I'm not even bringing into question your journalistic objectivity. Like it's not there, right? It's we. Yes.

[Todd Fuhrman]

Like Riley Moss. They have to stop committing past interference down the field in case.

[Dan Patrick]

Anthony in Vegas. Hi, Anthony. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Mr. Patrick. Doing great over here. Best and worst. I actually got no worst, man, only best. You and I'll be. Football squeaks by UNLV basketball road win in Memphis. Come on, give Pastner some love. Even though the first three games were rough and end the weekend with San Francisco Niners. All right, looking good.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Anthony. They're hanging in there. Brock Purdy came back. Look good. Christian McCaffrey doing what Christian McAffrey does. And boy, Arizona put a stamp on that envelope and mail it in. Damn. Madden Pittsburgh. Hi, Matt. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Good morning, boys. I got a best and worst of the weekend Pittsburgh based Worst of the weekend Narduzzi runs his mouth and gets spit on all over Heinzfield. And then the best of the weekend, though. College day, game day comes with a bird, makes the city look beautiful, and the mothership doesn't do everything great. But I have to think that they clone Herb Street. I go down there, I see him around 11 o' clock noon. I come home, listen to the night game, and he's there also. He's the best thing going on television. Hang up and listen to your thoughts and suck it.

[Dan Patrick]

Back row. All right. Herbie's travels. I mean, the peripatetic Kirk Curb Street. But, you know, there's so much energy with McAfee there. There's nobody like him. And now look, there are people probably on both sides with that opinion. But he brings energy and you know it. That's where it's contagious. Sometimes you kind of settle in. You know, Reese has been doing it, Herbie's been doing it. Desmond been doing it for a long time. Coach Saban, not known for his personality. But I, McAfee's brought out everybody's a game again. Just feels like you got to raise your level a little bit in the energy, the field goal kicking, you know, that's big. Aaron Donald's on stage with them, and they got their shirts off and pushing each other, and it's, it's different. It is. They, they, they're, they're going to put on a show like I've done broadcast. But those guys are doing a show. When they go to your town, they're putting on a show. It's not just. When I did Football Night in America, I was doing a broadcast. I wasn't doing a show. When I did SportsCenter, we were doing a show. We were trying to do something. It wasn't a broadcast, it was a show. Or at least that was the attempt. This. We're trying to put on a show, not a broadcast. And to be able to do it and do it at that kind of level and have that energy. I mean, kudos to, you know, what Pat's done. Yeah, Paulie.

[Samsung TV Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

If you want 10,000 people to show up at 6am in the dark in Eugene, Oregon, you got it. You can't just break down games calmly. It has to be a show.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I mean, there's, you still have to cover the matchups, and they do that really well. But, you know, it's, it's an event. I mean, college game day. When you look at some of the greatest shows in history, like Sports center should Stand alone because it changed. It changed the paradigm, changed everything, changed local sports. It, it, you know, it launched A lot of stars there. Pardon the interruption should be in there as well. College game day should be in there as well. Like hall of fame shows. Those, those are three right off the top of my head. And yes, you know, is there territorial bias with the mothership? Yes. Because I remember when game day started and I thought, gosh, all right, they're going out on the road and then all of a sudden college kids getting up, wanting to be on tv, bringing signs out there and then you bring in coach Corso and you know, then you had, you know, it became a show and to be able to the sustainability of that show. And it starts because you got a great host in Reese. And then you throw in coach Saban. Whatever he says is gold. And then you throw in Pat. I think he's brought out more of a personality with Herbie and Desmond. So it works. Credit to them. You know, Mike and Tony are still doing part in the interruption. Amazing. One of the great show. One of the great shows. Not just sports shows in TV history and sports centers in there as well in college game day. It's a very, very high bar. All right, we'll take a break. More of your phone calls coming up. And our play of the day is next. Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Todd Fuhrman]

I'm Robert Smith, this is Jacob Goldstein and we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history and some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode. How Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're gonna have mavericks on the show. We're gonna have robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked. Like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Dan Patrick]

Oh my God. This is the play of the day. This is the play of the day day. Check this out. Packers to the line of scrimmage. Second down and seven at the Giants 7 yards line. Green Bay trailing by one. A shotgun snap to Lovey Bobbles for a moment. Now lost it right side of the end zone. Watson leaping grab. A sensational touchdown catch. Christian Watson.

[Caller]

My, oh my, oh my.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Dylan]

So we've got two. Dan so worst loss in the NFL this weekend, the Chargers running away with that at about 55%. And then worst win in the NFL this weekend, the Ravens are running away with that at about 57.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I mean, the Rams did beat a very good team, but it, it's kind of like Seattle lost that game. Didn't feel like the Rams were winning that game. Seattle stayed in it. Four interceptions. I don't know how often we've had a quarterback throw four interceptions and you still win the game. Check. Jameis Winston maybe in his career.

[Paulie]

James Winston.com checking.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, couple more phone calls in here. Al in Atlanta. Hi, Al.

[Caller]

I'm just speechless. If this is just. I actually threatened to sue my parents for child abuse for moving me from Kansas to Atlanta as a child and making me a Falcon fan. At one point last night I was willing to have grown up in the flat boring plains of Kansas just to be a Chiefs fan. And then my side piece that supposed to make me feel good when my main love is just stomping on my heart goes and does that, you know, gets a blocked field goal or extra point to like. I can't take the sport of football anymore, Dan. Even I wasn't even that much of a basketball fan my entire life growing up. I think I might be a Hawks fan now because at least vegans you're going to winning streak. It makes me feel good. I. I have nothing left with football and. And it's. It's the worst. Dan, I'm.

[Dan Patrick]

You're not going to quit, Al. I know you. You're not a quitter. But your teams might be, but you're not a quitter. Thank you, Al. It is malpractice when you think of it that your parents, your dad says you're rooting for this team and then all of a sudden you wake up and then you're like, I don't know, 11. You go, why, why am I. This team isn't any good. Why am I rooting for them? Because I root for them. And then my dad's dad rooted for them. They're like, shouldn't I be able to pick Cody in Texas? Hi, Cody. By the way, you got Monday Night Football. This is. Man, that might look good. You know when, when, when the schedule comes out in August, you go, all right, Cowboys in Vegas. Cowboy fans going to Vegas. I like that. Okay, Ashton Genty, they're adding him. They got Brock Bowers, Max Crosby, Pete Carroll, Geno Smith. Then maybe could build off last year. Cowboys, they got Micah Parsons, they got. Wait a minute now. This will still do a big number because it's the Cowboys, but this is maybe what could have been. And maybe enjoy Pete Carroll while you can because I can't imagine that you're going to bring him back next year. All righty, Cody, what do you have?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. Just. It's funny, kind of piggybacking off, Al. Took my boys to their first college football game over the weekend. Worst of the weekend, the first half of that Texas A and M Aggie football game. Best of the weekend, second half, man, my Aggies are undefeated. And like you said, we got the Cowboys tonight going to beat the Raiders in 10 City. Let's go.

[Dan Patrick]

But I keep waiting. There's. There's always these moments. I don't care how bad your team is, I say this every year. At some point they act like they should. They play like they're being paid to be good and you'll get a surprise. Now, I used to always bet when I bet Home dog Monday night. Always. Now I don't bet anymore. And the Raiders make me nervous. They should have one of those games. Maybe it's tonight, but everybody seems to have one of those games where you go, man, these guys aren't any good. And then all of a sudden you'll go, wait, what happened? Wait, the Falcons did what to Buffalo, the Jags did what to the Chargers? Wait, the Browns beat the packers, you know, so you have those moments. I don't know if this is one of those moments for the Raiders tonight, but, boy, did they disappoint this year.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paulie, I have that stat for you. By the way, most interceptions thrown in a win. Since 1980, there's been two quarterbacks who had five picks in a win.

[Dan Patrick]

Brent Ford.

[Paulie]

No, he's a bunch of three interception games, okay? Jared Goff's had five picks in a win and four picks in a win in his career. And 12 years ago, Tony Romo had five picks in a win. Jim, he predicted that, by the way.

[Dan Patrick]

That he's going to do it. Coming up, he deserves a victory lap. Tim Hasselbeck of the Mothership, he's the first person who said, I think Drake May is the best quarterback in the draft when he was coming out. So we'll talk to him not only about that, but some of the other results from the weekend. One hour in the books, two more to go.

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