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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Marvin
His passes, blocks and still found a way to get 33 fourth quarter points. I'll just drop the mic on that one. There's no excuses about that.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, Broncos.
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Paulie
I didn't like him in college, but.
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Brian Windhorst
I love him Now I don't remember.
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Marvin
I don't think Bo Nick said anything about being too short. That's why five passes were blocked against the.
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Dan Patrick
Did you buy the Bonix jersey yet?
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Marvin
I have not. That's just because that's not. That's not because I haven't bought it. I bought one. I bought one for Jordan, my son. I sent him the old retro 1977 one. And you know, if I buy another jersey because I have so many of them, it would probably.
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Dan Patrick
Did you get a Russell Wilson jersey?
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Marvin
I did not. I got other Russell Wilson shirts which were ridiculous that said, you know, they had him next to Peyton Manning and John Elway, like they were going to be like the three great Bronco super bowl champions.
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Dan Patrick
It was a bad purchase. By the way, the stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. The Flacco around and find out T shirt is alive and well@the danpatrick.com store. All right, Seaton pull question from hour one and do we have the hall of Good T shirt?
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Seaton
Yeah, that's up there. That's up there. There's also a Dodgers T shirt up there as well.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. World Series opening up tonight. I just want to make sure I tune in for the first at bat when Shohei Ohtani comes to the plate and how Toronto is going to react to him. Remember we had Steve Phillips on the former Mets GM and he's like, ah, you know, I think all signs are leading to Toronto. And then I think he was affiliated with the Blue Jays. I maybe I don't know what kind of role. But he, he talked about, you know, because I thought, all right, he should know. And then all of a sudden there was a report that Shoehe Otani's jet was going to Toronto and then it wasn't. It. He might have been in his jet, but he wasn't in the jet when it was going to Toronto. So those fans might be a little frosty there with Shohei and his first at bat.
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Paulie
Yes, Paul bigger all time pump fake Shohei to the Blue Jays, LeBron to the Knicks.
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Dan Patrick
I would say LeBron to the Knicks because I'm probably reminding people that Toronto was in the sweepstakes here for Shohei. We you had some. Jared Dudley was on the Knicks, wasn't he? And he was talking about that he's hearing that LeBron's going to the Knick. I would say that the proximity of when he made his announcement. He's in Connecticut, not far from where The Knicks practice. And I thought, okay, maybe there's a possibility. Yeah, Paul.
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Paulie
We were in the old studio, so I remember it like it was yesterday. And we get the word that LeBron is doing his announcement at the Boys and Girls Clubs of Greenwich, five minutes from the Knicks practice facility, just over the border. And we all looked at each other, said, he's going to the Knicks. Yeah, we all said it.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. I would say that that was the ultimate pump fake. I don't know if that. I don't know if people think that it was that close with Shohei going to Toronto. I think there were erroneous reports. And therefore it felt like it was a little bit more front burner. And it wasn't. I don't even think he was on the stove. All right, so World Series coming up tonight. Shea gilge's Alexander had 55. Last night. They had another double overtime game. You also had Steph Curry with the big night. Aaron Gordon puts up 50 as well. So some of the basketball last night, looking at some of the games this weekend and the NFL and also in college. And I'd like to look at the point spreads here just to see, like the Titans at the colts. The Titans, 14 and a half.
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Brian Windhorst
That's a lot.
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Dan Patrick
The Titans are gonna. They're gonna knock off somebody. The Colts are scoring a lot. This is one of those gotta win. We're gonna do the most must win game of the weekend. Coming up a little bit later on, the Cowboys and the Broncos. That is spicy. The Dolphins at the Falcons. When, you know these teams eventually pull it together for one game. Like the jets are gonna surprise somebody. Browns, Patriots. That's at the Patriots. Bills minus seven at the Panthers. Like, these are those tricky games where you go, it's a seven. Although Bryce Young, I don't think is playing. I think he's. When he got injured against the Jets. The Buccaneers at the Saints. This is where I always go with the team that you don't think will win. It's at the Saints and maybe the Saints, you know, surprise somebody. The Niners, Texans. The Bears are getting six and a half against the Ravens. And the Ravens have one win. So you have a four and two team versus a one win team. Yes.
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Seaton
Our two poll question, who do you like this weekend? The four and two bears at plus 6.5 or whatever. Six and a half or the one in five Ravens.
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Brian Windhorst
How is that possible?
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Dan Patrick
Lamar Jackson's not even healthy, but I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if he's playing yet. I I think he was at practice, but I don't know if he was participating. Feels like probably would be. If you're gonna six, you're. You're favored by six and a half. Good grief. I got to believe that he's playing. I mean, that screams, oh, I'm taking the Bears in the six and a half. Right. It's like, man, that's easy money here.
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Paulie
Yeah, Paulie, it's like Vegas doesn't have the same opinions that we do, you know, four and two. Oh, the Bears are doing well. They're on a hot streak. The Ravens are in disarray. Vegas doesn't believe that they're looking at this game different than the records.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, but you know what? Vegas has been on top of the Ravens, that they're not that far away from winning this division. At least last week or the week before, the odds were better than the Bengals and not that far off from the Steelers. Oh, maybe the schedule's pretty easy in the second half. And Lamar comes back and they started out slow, I think, last year, and then turned it around, but I don't know. Just feels, you know, you take out the ping pong tables and, you know, cornhole. I don't know. And then John Harbaugh said, I didn't take it out. The players did. The captains, the leaders took it out. Like, okay, all right, if you. If you tell me that. Okay. Like, I'm not sure what it's going to mean now. We mean business. Hey, no more games here. The only game we play is the one on the field. Yes, Barbara.
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Marvin
So that's their version of a players only meeting. Like, you know what, guys? Oh, no more toys. No more toys. Yeah, like, you know what, guys.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, you had me there. Like a great pause, Spence. Yes, sir. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Let's see. Lucas in Texas leads us off our two. Hi, Luke.
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Caller
Hey, Dan. Good morning.
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Dan Patrick
Good morning.
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Caller
You know, there's lots of legal proceedings and conversations going on right now, and I need to bring that to bear on the deep show. I have some evidence. And then I have an accusation against one of the Danettes. I have reviewed the footage from the last two meat Fridays, and there is a certain Danette, soon to be named, who is extremely slow in particular, going through the line. Everyone else is actually sampling the food, and he's making a very clear effort to have a perfect plate, sampling every little bit of every little dish. Now, this is personal to me because I grew up with a father who did the very same thing. Drove our family nuts because he would just be sitting down while everyone else had already finished up. So my claim, which I leave to the jury of the other Dan s and Dan yourself, is that one Paul Pabst Friday pass hole of the DP show.
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Paulie
Okay, Paulie, I think I knew it was me with the accusation. I like to enjoy and peruse the lovely spread that our team puts out for us and I'm very grateful for it. So I take a look at it and I try to sample everything, whether I might not like it or not. So I look at that as a positive. I try not to clog the lane though.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Marvin
Yes, Todd, I don't think I'm a lane clogger. I've had problems with other lanes on the highway, but I'm I guess the opposite. I like to have everything in one big mound or clump and they could all be on top of each other. And I treat it as if the last meal and there's going to be no time or room for seconds.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. I always tell you, I said, Todd, you can always go back. But you, you go all in on one, you know, one pass through and that's it.
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Marvin
I get excited. I'm like, I'm going to take a little or a lot of each of these things.
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Dan Patrick
Andrew in Washington. Hi, Andrew. What's on your mind?
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Caller
Good morning, Dan Dennett. Thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to talk a little bit about the gambling scandal that's going in the NBA and maybe something that kind of steered it in the direction and gave it some of the information that it needed. And it might be from a friend of the show, some information is out there that they're connecting these players to Rick Pitino. That has nothing to do with it. If you look back, the feds did a raid in July of 2022. And in that raid all they took was money, which tells you they were looking for other things. Now when they do these raids, they might be asking for information because everybody knows about Sammy the Bull Gravano. Everybody knows about Michael Franchise. They are snitches. And so that's how the feds do this. They get ideas and they need somebody to break. Now unfortunately, if you look at it, the court case for this person that had the July 2022 raid was in September of 2025. His co conspirators are actually connected to a transnational Israeli crime organization. And the sad part about it is you look at it differently today because this friend of the show's son was also in an auto accident that was supposedly from a steering wheel malfunction. Now, I might be taking a few steps, but I do believe there's information that Gilbert Arenas have provided to be able to soften his case of conspiracy at his Encino home. When he kind of got raided in July of 2022. I didn't know if Gilbert has been contacted or might be able to come on the show or can talk about it.
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Dan Patrick
Thank you, Andrew. Once again, that is speculation. Gil is not talking and if he is, he'll be talking on his own podcast. Can I connect the dots? No, I, there's only so much information we have now. I have made calls. I did talk about, you know, Gilbert Arenas and his situation, but once again, I, I, you can't just throw it out there. I mean, this is really serious. This a, this is potentially devastating to the NBA. If one of your coaches maybe gave information to gamblers and what happens is you get compromised and maybe Chauncey Billups got compromised or Gilbert Arenas got compromised, or Terry Rozier, Damon Jones, then you have to give us information. You owe us. You can pay off your debt. This is how it works. Now, I'm not saying that happened, but you have to look at these things wide eyed and say, why would Gilbert Arenas or why would Chauncey Billups get involved in this? Sometimes you get involved in something and you don't know what you're involved in in until it's too late. Now you get compromised. And did that happen? We don't know. But I got to be fair to the investigation here because you can speculate. And this isn't a, this isn't a time or a place for hot takes. Not with something like this. You can have a hot take on the Viking season. Not on this. Yeah, Paulie.
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Paulie
Gilbert Arenas on his own personal Twitter, verified Twitter yesterday, posted kind of a jokey photograph of him with a bag of food. It says, got that informant lunch special this morning. That was 19 hours ago.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I know.
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Paulie
So Gilbert is having fun with it on social media.
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Dan Patrick
But didn't he have one about Gilbert the snitch that I didn't see? Was there something on that yesterday? Marvin there, he's, he's been kind of having fun with this.
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Marvin
He's alluded to it in a couple of times. And on his podcast he alluded to it a little bit. And then I think the co, some of the co hosts were like, don't play like that.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. All right, let me take a break. Brian Windhorst will join us on loan from the mothership. More of your phone calls and the man who gave us Round Ball Rock, John Tesh, will stop by to perform Round Ball Rock a little later on. Back after this Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning, 9 to noon Eastern or 6 to 9 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Dan patrick show@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast Inside.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
Up, we'll zero in on some of the marquee matchups, college and pro football also the most must win game of the weekend. We'll have that for you coming up as well. Cindy in North Carolina while we wait for Brian Windhorse from the Mothership. Hi Cindy, what's on your mind?
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Caller
Hi long suffering Dolphins fan here. As I was watching the game last night I thought oh yeah, we play the next Thursday night and I looked at our schedule and I realized oh my goodness, we have four more standalone games including an international game And a flex game. And then of course, to cap it all off, on Pearl Harbor Day, we play the Jets. So I'm wondering what would compel the NFL to put us in a total of six standalone games and a flex game.
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Dan Patrick
Well, you were a playoff team and they probably looked at you as with Tyree Kill and Tua. And why not? They were going to showcase you. They thought you were actually going to be good. Cindy, they made a mistake. Even with Tyreek, you guys weren't very good. The 2A situation isn't getting better and it feels like there's going to be a house cleaning at the end of the year. But those standalone games are tough because then everybody has an opinion about your team. If you played at one o' clock on a Sunday, nobody has an opinion. But a standalone a Thursday or a Sunday or a Monday, and then the next day everybody's got an opinion about your team. Yeah, Paul.
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Paulie
And when there's a backup quarterback, the promo has to pivot. It can't be Carson Wentz, Justin Herbert, it's gotta be Justin Jefferson. And the offense takes on Justin Herbert.
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Dan Patrick
Stu in Indiana. Hi, Stu. What's on your mind today? Hi, Dan.
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Caller
Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I just had a little.
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Dan Patrick
You mentioned the coach in the final scene of Hoosiers, the final game that.
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Caller
Coaches that coach's name. He's an actual legendary coach here in Indiana.
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Dan Patrick
His name is Ray Crow.
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Caller
He's probably in the top five or top ten in all time wins here in Indiana in high school boys basketball. And I'm driving, so I didn't have a way to check this, but I believe he was the head coach of the high school team from Indianapolis. Christmas addicts. And I, I think that team was the first high school team in Indiana that was all black to win.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, that was Oscar Robertson's team. Yeah, Oscar Robertson, Crispus Attucks. Yeah, yeah, I was talking about that. You have this final seconds turnover and you know Jimmy Chitwood's going to hit a game winner. And the coach was like smiling. I don't know. It felt like they were taking cutaways and putting them in and they had to. There should have been a little more anguish there. Maybe. I was looking for a little more acting from coach. Yes, Paulie.
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Paulie
So at the end of Hoosiers, Jimmy Chitwood holds the ball for maybe 20 seconds and then takes a shot in the real game. I think it was Milan High School. The guy, his name was Bobby Plump. He held the ball for four straight minutes, motionless with a Tied game. And then took the last shot. 4 minutes, no shot clock.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, it's not good. But back then that would have been.
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Paulie
Bad in the movie.
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Dan Patrick
But I thought if I come up on you, then there can be five seconds and then there's a jump ball.
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Paulie
Not in high school. Back in the 50s, there was no shot clock. There was no five second rule checking a player. He stood there emotionless for five minutes. Four minutes.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. That's why all the. The greatness of Dean Smith. And then he ran those four corners. I mean, he had Phil Ford and I don't know, I hated that stalling tactic. But you had teams that were able to do that. Yeah. Marvin. Yeah.
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Marvin
Michael Jordan on my team. Let's run the four corners. What are you talking about?
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Dan Patrick
But Phil Ford was a great point guard. He's one of those all time great college players, but not necessarily a good pro career. In fact, I don't even know how much he played in the NBA. Ernie DiGregorio played for Providence. They went to the final four back in the early 70s. He was a dynamic point guard. He was rookie of the year, I think, for the Buffalo Braves, coached by Jack Ramsey. And they had Bob McAdoo, but he kind of trailed off as well. You know, just certain guys that they have these unbelievable college careers. Rick Mount. Rick Mount's one of the greatest scores in college basketball history. But he was just kind of undersized when he went to the NBA, I think the Indiana Pacers. Yeah. Paulie.
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Paulie
Yeah. Phil Ford played seven years in the NBA. A little bit starter, a little bit bench.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, he's a great player. Not a great shooter, but great leader, great, you know, ball handler, run the, you know, four corners. Hey, let's go watch a team stall.
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Marvin
North Carolina like you have. You got a bunch of five stars.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Well, I don't think they were labeled five stars back then, but if you.
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Marvin
Go to North Carolina, you're somebody.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Marvin
Yeah. Oh, you know what? Let's just stall. Like we're UMBC or somebody like that.
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Dan Patrick
Jason. Jason in Phoenix. Hi, Jace. What's on your mind?
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Caller
Hey, thanks for taking my call, guys. Yeah, I'm pretty not happy right now. Like two things really got me kind of irked. Just this whole pitching situation with the Dodgers. $1.5 billion, it's just a monopoly. And then she goes. Alexander, man, this push off thing, it just. I played basketball I cannot stand. I want to like literally fight him. Like watching him push off these people and like the reps are not calling it like what the heck, Jason, you.
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Dan Patrick
Got anger issues here.
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Paulie
It's a push off.
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Dan Patrick
It's okay, you know, great players get away with stuff. Yeah, but he's pushing off. I know he is. He is. Not to the point where you should want to fight. Shea, Gilgames, Alexander, our two and a half poll question.
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Paulie
Like, the tush push bothers me, but Kelsey, I'm not going to come from.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I'm not going after, you know, Jalen Hurds. Let's see. Aiden in Utah. Hi, Aiden. What's on your mind?
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Caller
Hey, Dan.
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Dan Patrick
Good morning. Good morning.
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Caller
Yeah. Yeah, I, I've always been a big component. Oh, sorry. I've always pushed that the NBA is not really. NFL's not rigged. I fight back against everybody who claims it is. I still don't believe that it is. But just watching this go down, it's. It's crazy. I was watching ESPN yesterday. Greeny had shams on and on the bottom ticker. It was a promo for ESPN bet. And it's just like while they're talking about the gambling situation, it's like, what, what, what would they. What would have to happen for gambling to be outlawed again?
- [33:58]
Dan Patrick
It's not happening. That ship has. That yacht has sailed. It's on a ship.
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Paulie
I'm going to bloop you for that.
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Dan Patrick
It's. It's a yacht. Brian Windhorst, ESPN Senior NBA writer Wendy, thanks for joining us. I know you're busy. When did you get a heads up that there was something going on here? Let's start with Chauncey Billups. We knew about Terry Rozier, but Chauncey Billups, any heads up?
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Brian Windhorst
Good morning, Dan. I had no heads up and I'm not sure Chauncey did either. You know, I was. I'm here in LA and I'm staying at the same hotel as the Timberwolves. And I ran into some Timberwolves folks yesterday in the hotel like an hour after this happened. And they had been in Portland the night before. They played against the Blazers. Some of the players, some of the folks I talked to said they talked to Chauncey. They complimented him on the way the team looked. They had a real close game. Came right down to the final minute and their home opener against Minnesota. Chauncey talked about how excited he was about the team, about how good of a training camp they had. I don't think Chauncey knew it was coming either. Maybe he knew he was the subject of an investigation. That's possible. But the fact that he was going to get arrested in the wee hours I don't think he knew it was coming. I'm not sure how much heads up the NBA had. I'm sure they knew it before I did, but I'm not sure that's how the feds operate.
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Dan Patrick
What's the worst accusation pertaining to the NBA in your opinion?
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Brian Windhorst
I don't think that this is a scandal that rocks the NBA to its core. I know that there are people that are going to use it to say that. And certainly their association with sports betting can be called into question as all people associated with sports can be ESPN's can be. Really. There's two accusations here and I think the poker stuff is fascinating. I mean, this is right out of a movie. You're talking about mob stuff. You're talking about cheating at poker games, rigging poker games. That was all interesting at the press conference. None of that has anything to do with the NBA. Now there are potentially NBA people who were at these games. I'm sort of fascinated that the Justice Department seems interested in protecting the rights of people playing in illegal poker games. Like they're worried about the victims playing illegal poker games. But that's for another day. But the Genovese crime family or whatever, I laughed out loud about four times at that press conference. That has nothing to do with the NBA. There's two different cases here. They were tied together in the announcement and I understand why they did that. Within the. Within the case against the folks involved with the NBA, there are two different accusations. One is that two players took themselves out of games so their unders would hit. Both of them were publicly known. John Tay Porter has already pled guilty and has probably been an informant on this case. The other, Terry Rozier, was known and was investigated by the league and he continued to play. And that's definitely something the league has to address. And I will. I've talked to league about that and I'll tell you in a minute what they said. That is certainly a concern. That is not something that was new news. It was new that Terry Rozier got federal charges, but that was not new. So you can be upset by that, but it was something the league was already aware of. The other thing that was accused was three different individuals were accused of leaking information to betters about who was going to be available in the games. One was Chauncey Billups, one was Damon Jones and one is an indirect Orlando Magic player that was unnamed where the Magic player told somebody who told somebody else. And they don't even indict anybody there. And that has been a soft Target for the NBA. Dan for decades, the team decides or knows when a star player or any player is going to play in the morning, usually, and then doesn't reflect it on the injury report because they're worried about strategy and letting the other team know. And there's this window of hours where there's inside information available. People have exploited that for decades and that is what Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones are being accused of. There's a problem the NBA has tried to address. They've tightened their injury reporting rules. They've fined teams for not following them. But there's still a window there that can be exploited. And that's what this is. So it's definitely serious. The NBA has got to worry about prop betting and Adam Silver has talked about this. But this is the addressing of a problem that has existed for a long time. It's not nothing, but I don't think it's like a scandal that's rocking the league. They're going to have to change some polic. But it's. And it's mostly shocking that it ensnares a Hall of Famer like Chauncey Billups. And let's wait and see who else might get involved with the poker because NBA guys like to play poker and they're not all in casinos. So I'll see about that. But this is huge headlines. But I'm not sure that this is the dire scandal that it may seem. If you just watched the press conference.
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Dan Patrick
Yesterday talking to Brian Windhorst of espn, senior NBA writer, the one that stood out was Chauncey Billups letting somebody know that he was going to be resting his starters, that they were, quote, unquote, tanking. That, to me is troubling because that's from a head coach that's not a former player like Damon Jones, that's a head coach. So that's the one that's the most troubling for me.
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Brian Windhorst
I would agree. I would agree. And I would say that in the indictment. And I'm only going by what's in the indictment, Dan. And I will tell you, the indictment's about 40 pages long. I read the indictment from front to back, and I'm not sure how many people who are talking about the indictment actually read it. Okay, so in the indictment, it doesn't accuse Chauncey Billups of selling the information. It does accuse Damon Jones of selling the information. In fact, in the indictment, that names Chauncey Biller. Well, actually doesn't name him. It refers to him as co conspirator 8, but then gives his resume, it practically give his Social Security number. It's very clear who it is. It doesn't say that he did it for money. It doesn't say what he did it for. Now, let's. If it comes out that he knew that this individual that he told was going to sell it to Betters, that's really bad. If he had some sort of. Maybe he owed somebody money and did it as a favor, if there was some sort of return from that, then I think you're looking at something serious. If it was just Chauncey having loose lips and that loose lips leading to hundreds of, you know, tens of thousands of dollars in betting winnings, that's different. The FBI does not accuse him of selling it. The FBI accuses Damon Jones of selling it. In fact, the FBI says that Damon sold information on Lakers players to multiple games and one of the games proved to be wrong. The bettors lost the bet and the guys wanted their money back. So I am going to. It is very upsetting that Chauncey is involved in this. The Lee has to take serious action as it involves with their public information versus private information on player availability. But I am not going to sit here and say, oh, my God, this is the end of the NDA and everything's got to be reevaluated.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. I mean, we have the headlines and they're juicy. And you're right, we don't do deep dives much anymore. If you're Adam Silver, what would be your game plan if you were advising him?
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Brian Windhorst
Yeah, so the first thing I would say is the thing that the league is going to have to address is why Terry Rozier was investigated by the league and was allowed to keep playing. And when the feds investigate him, they ended up indicting him. The league has a little bit of egg on its face on this one. So I asked the question to the league, how'd that happen? And this is the answer that they gave me on the record. League spokesman Mike Bass. I'll tell you his name, but he's speaking for Adam Silver. Basically, it's that the NBA is not the Justice Department. They can't do wiretaps. They can't have witnesses roll over on each other. They can't get access to everybody's text messages. They can do investigation. They can get some access to some people's phones. They can do investigations in terms of, you know, asking people and sort of threatening them and whatever. And I even asked them, I go, well, what did you do in Your investigation. They say we're not going to say what we did because we don't want everybody to know the tactics we use. But they certainly don't have the Justice Department. And that sounds a little upsetting, but it's also candid. You know, the NBA saying we're not the Justice Department is a candid answer. It's not a satisfactory answer, but it's a candid answer. So now what Adam Silver is going to have to do is explain what the league can do. Okay, they can't beat the Justice Department, but now it's incumbent on him. But what they can do in these types of investigations. And then here's something that's just got to be simple, Dan. I've actually talked about this for years. They've just got to be more honest with injuries that the teams cover up injuries for strategic reasons. I'm not asking them to reveal a player's exact health information and violate HIPAA laws. But if 40 people in the team organization, if 40 people went to shoot around that morning and know that the star player is not playing at 6 o' clock or at 7 o', clock, they need to tell the world that. And sometimes it is a game time decision. Sometimes the star player has to go out there and stretch out and see how his calf feels and see how his wrist feels or whatnot. Sometimes the concussion protocol isn't determined until closer to the game. So say that, you know, but there is this soft target that the NBA has had for decades. I mean, reporters are asked to operate in that field all the time. We are asked, you know, to come on television and say whether LeBron James is playing or not because maybe we happen to know that he went through shoot around or something like of those nature. That is something that the gamblers have tried to get information and have gotten that information for decades. So the NBA's got to tighten that. And this investigation is probably going to force them to do it. They have tightened it some. They haven't just put their hands in their pockets. When sports betting came in, they changed their rules. But the rules haven't gone far enough. And this accusation is, is in the cracks that there are still people operating in.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, they got to get rid of prop bets, you know, especially college athletes. They should not be involved with prop bets. There's enough pressure there. I don't know if, I mean, are, are we too far down the road that if the NBA said to FanDuel, DraftKings, whoever Vegas, no more prop bets, do they have any authority to do.
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Brian Windhorst
That that's not my end of the business. I couldn't tell you. I would say though that like I've not seen gambling walk back in one iota. Maybe at some point it will have to be just for society, but I have, I've only seen it go one way. And I think you're right. I think the people that are, that are most susceptible to being compromised are people who have nothing to lose. Okay? A lot of NBA players have a lot to lose, okay? Even John Tay Porter, who was holding on to the NBA by the skin of his teeth, had a lot to lose. College players, there are certain college players who know their careers are not going anywhere, who don't have anything to lose. And so that's college's soft spot. Before I covered the NBA, I covered the Mid American Conference, okay? There's a ton of players in that conference whose careers are going to end in where they're at. They have nothing to lose. That's a soft spot for college. That may has not been been a scandal yet, but I'd be worried about it. Just like you can find me talking about this, this gap that where the NBA, you know, the game time decision gap, I've talked about that over the years. This indictment surprised me in terms of Chauncey Billups being involved. It did not surprise me that this is the spot where gamblers could take advantage.
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Dan Patrick
Great to talk to you. Have a good weekend. Thanks for taking time. Thank you.
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Brian Windhorst
Take care.
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Dan Patrick
That's Brian Windhorst, ESPN Senior NBA writer. I remember being at the NBA finals and somebody had told me some information and yeah, I wasn't passing it on, I'm not a gambler. But it was valuable information to a gambler and I, you know, I didn't really think about it and they probably didn't think about it either. But if you put that in the wrong hands, you know, that's, that's when you have situations like this because, and you know, Brian brings up great things, you know, like Shefty's going to find out a lot of information, but he's got to be really careful in what he says with that information because the amount of money that's betting and you're talking about, sometimes it's a half point, you know, the over under point spread injury, who's hurt, who might not play, who's not going to be 100, like just little things. And how many times do these games come down to, hey, USC, Notre Dame, what was the point spread? Nine and a half. Notre Dame won by 10 and that's where people get misconstrued. On oh, it's fixed. No, that's Vegas doing its job. Vegas isn't fixing these games. Vegas is really good at telling you this is what's going to happen. And that was a classic example.
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Brian Windhorst
Isn't that so weird to you though?
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Dan Patrick
I know people. How are they that good? I know, but people like, that's why it's fixed. You know, ten ten point spread and they had it at nine and a half. I give them credit. That's why I don't bet I can't beat them. Take a break. The most must win game of the weekend. We'll have that for you coming up. More of your phone calls after this. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning, 9 until noon Eastern, 6 to 9 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app.
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Dan Patrick
Like Kings Hawaiian slider Sundays to enjoy the NFL games with friends and family and football. Paulie hates alliteration. Make that Watch party or tailgate special a great one. Pick up Kings of Wine this weekend. Sliding into the weekend. Let's see. We got A and M against lsu. Wow. A and M is favored in that game. Can you imagine if Brian Kelly loses another game before he goes into maybe the tougher part of their schedule? A and M is favored by two and a half at lsu. See, that's one of those that screams lsu.
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Paulie
Yeah, Paulie, LSU has lost two of their last three. They got A and M at Alabama, a spicy Arkansas squad, and then they.
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Dan Patrick
Finished with Oklahoma, Ole Miss and Oklahoma. So Ole Miss runs the football. Usually you think Lane Kiffin gonna pass the ball. So you have baseball, you have game one tonight, Game two on Saturday. Timberwolves at the Lakers. That's Anthony Edwards against Luka Doncic. And Bears, Ravens. And you have the Ravens favored by six and a half at home against a four and two Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears contenders or pretenders?
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Paulie
Is there something between those two? Because they're neither.
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Dan Patrick
I think they're contenders.
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Paulie
I don't think they're in contention to do any real damage in the NFC playoffs.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Paulie
And they're not a bad team. There's gotta be some type of in between.
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Dan Patrick
Slide into the weekend with a slider Sunday, courtesy of Kings Wine. You'll find them in the bakery deli section of your local grocery store. Time to play Best week in sports. Who had the best week in sports? By the way, the most must win game of the weekend. Next hour. Next hour. Todd. Who had the best week in sports?
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Marvin
George Springer and the Toronto Blue Jays. 32 years that three run Homer and they are taking on the Dodgers starting tonight.
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Dan Patrick
I like that. I like that. Seton.
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Seaton
Best week in sports. Victor Wembanyama.
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Dan Patrick
He's back.
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Seaton
Back in a big way from some pretty serious health concerns too. What do you have, like 40, 15 and something? Yeah, it's a great way to announce you are back.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, that's one of those they forget. Oh, what was he out for? Blood clots. You know that's not one of those high ankle sprains?
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Seaton
Some kind of thrombosis situation? That's never good.
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Dan Patrick
Marvin.
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Marvin
I'm gonna go with Oklahoma City Thunder. Sga. That whole crew, they raised their banner opening night. They won two straight double overtime games. And Shay Gill just had 55 last night.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I think you said 95 in the first two games. Paulie.
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Paulie
This is simple. But it's Shohei Ohtani. The game last Friday was all timer and a reminder to everybody he's going to win the NL MVP in the next few weeks. He's got to be an incredible overwhelming odds to win World Series mvp.
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Dan Patrick
But when did the week start that we're talking about? Because that was a week ago tonight.
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Paulie
Best month?
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Seaton
I, I, some I. Sometimes I'll go back Friday to Friday.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Yeah, I just wanted. I didn't know what our definition of a week was.
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Paulie
Just under the wire.
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Dan Patrick
Does it start on Sunday or Monday?
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Seaton
I think it starts Friday at noon.
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Dan Patrick
Friday at noon.
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Seaton
Because that's when we're off the air. So our weekend starts Friday at noon. You can go Friday right up until this Friday morning. That's how I determined that.
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Dan Patrick
All right. That's fine. I mean just ask a question. That's what I do for a living. Do you want to give us an update on the poll results?
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Seaton
Do I want to?
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Dan Patrick
Will you? Yes, I will. After the. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, that's gonna keep everybody.
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Seaton
Oh yeah.
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Dan Patrick
And then John Tesh is going to join us and he's going to play round ball rock for us. Todd, you're not singing.
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Marvin
I will not.
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Dan Patrick
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