Hour 2 – American Songwriters, Best and Worst

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 2 – American Songwriters, Best and Worst

Date: May 4, 2026
Host: Dan Patrick (with Paulie, Todd, Marvin, Dylan)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

Hour 2 of the Dan Patrick Show dives into the New York Times’ “50 (actually 30) Greatest Living American Songwriters” list and the surprising omissions and inclusions sparking heated debate among the crew. Dan and the team review which artists made the cut, who got snubbed—especially Billy Joel and Hall & Oates—and what it means to be a great songwriter versus a great performer. The conversation naturally swerves to sports analogies, playful banter, and calls from listeners who weigh in on songwriters, sports upsets, and listener-favorite moments. Other hour highlights include continuing NBA playoff storylines, the future of NBA coaches like Billy Donovan and Steve Kerr, and a humorous review of Todd Fritz’s "ToddCast."

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The NYT 30 Greatest Living American Songwriters List (02:12–13:05)

• Dan sees the NYT Magazine cover story and is surprised at the omissions. He rattles off names like Bob Dylan, Carole King, Outkast, Bad Bunny, Stevie Wonder, and Bruce Springsteen as present, but is bewildered by the absence of Hall & Oates and Billy Joel.
  • "Hall & Oates are still alive. I think they wrote most of their music. And then I go, Billy Joel is still alive. ... They're not in there." (02:57)
• Paulie confirms it's a top 30 (not 50) list and flags that the Times published a postscript with 11 snubbed songwriters after reader backlash.
  • "I'm surprised with Billy Joel because even if you don't like his music, you can't argue with the success of his work for, you know, a 10 year period." (04:23)
• They debate requirements: does an artist need to write their own songs to qualify as a great songwriter?
  • Paulie shares a Garth Brooks anecdote: "Robert De Niro doesn't write his own lines." (05:46)
  • Dan: "Sinatra didn't write anything, I don't think." (05:52)
• Chris Stapleton’s songwriter bonafides come up, as does whether he should’ve made the list for his wide-ranging body of work.
• Dolly Parton gets universal praise:
  • Marvin: "Dolly Parton should just be in there alone. Just for writing 'Jolene' and 'I Will Always Love You' in the same day." (06:53–06:59)
  • Dan shares Dolly’s story of meeting the real "Jolene" years later.

2. Fairness, Snubs, and List Controversy (10:27–13:36)

• Dan voices frustration at the apparent arbitrariness:
  • "If you're putting Lionel Richie on there, I got to put Billy Joel on there." (10:27)
  • Acknowledges the intentionally provocative aspect of such lists: "These lists kind of want you to be upset about a snub." (11:28)
  • "I don't want to be criticizing somebody to try to lift up somebody else. But Lionel Richie. Billy Joel." (11:04)
• Paulie notes how lists are made for engagement/clicks ("Maybe the Billy Joel snub is on purpose..."), suggesting recency bias/favoritism toward "cool" songwriters over those with broad appeal or historical singles.

3. What Makes a Great Songwriter? (12:21–14:25)

• Dan: "Part of writing a song is making it successful, not just being cool and hip or whatever."
• They joke about Billy Joel and Lionel Richie being "schlocky," but acknowledge their huge success.
• The greatest living songwriter, in Dan's view, is unequivocally Bob Dylan:
  • "Dylan. ... I'd say Dylan, he's still writing good music. He can't sing good music, but he still usually gets favorable reviews for his music that he's still writing today." (14:01)

4. Sports Analogies and Pop Culture Frustration (14:43–16:15)

• Paulie draws a parallel between Billy Joel's lack of critical respect and Terry Bradshaw's omission from greatest QB lists, despite major accomplishments.
  • "Terry Bradshaw never gets in conversations with great quarterbacks, but if you look at the numbers—four Super Bowls..." (16:27)
• Dan jokes about getting so animated debating songwriters at home that only the dog and (sometimes) his wife are left to listen:
  • "I'm looking for an audience at home. The dog will listen, but...the cat, he's not listening...And so I'm complaining about how do you not have Billy Joel..." (14:56)
• Calls out media for putting in “newsworthy” selections just for attention (“clickbait!”).

5. More Music Debates—Who Belongs? (17:05–19:39)

• The team debates whether Billy Joel or Terry Bradshaw was “better” in the ‘70s.
• Todd notes: "And Billy Joel is doing it by himself...Terry Bradshaw had terrible towel, great defense, Steel Curtain..." (17:12)
• Multiple hosts share their live Billy Joel concert experiences (Billy’s daughter Alexa performs on stage; Dan once sat in the same row as Christie Brinkley).
• Jokes about Alexa (the performer and the Amazon device).

6. Listener Calls: Songwriters, Sports, and Show Fandom (24:47–33:02)

• Callers bring more fuel to the Billy Joel snub fire, praise playoff hockey, and share personal connections to the music and show.
  • Ernie: "You make women want to listen to your show. ... We all listen to Billy Joel. I mean, what is going on? Why is he not on that list? The Piano Man." (26:54)
  • Lighthearted banter about attractiveness and “ranking” the show’s hosts (27:31–28:10).
• A listener shares that trying Todd's "ToddCast" podcast led to a marital dispute during a road trip, with both host and team finding humor in its divisive appeal:
  • Dan: "The Todd cast is not for everybody, but everybody should at least try. It's pretty fascinating...This is a perverted mind starring Todd Fritz." (29:17)
  • Todd: "I don't know how clean it is, but it's good fun." (29:33)

7. Current Sports Headlines: NBA Coaching Carousel & Playoff Rundown (35:37–38:59)

• Billy Donovan rumored as a leading candidate for the Orlando Magic head coaching job; Jamal Mosley fired after a string of first-round exits (23:09–24:47).
• Steve Kerr's potential future—remaining in coaching or returning to the media.
  • "I think Orlando would be interesting...I could see Billy Donovan doing that." (32:47)
  • "Steve Kerr, I think is going to go into the media again. You're 60 years of age. You got a Hall of Fame coaching career. You've won titles." (36:04)
• Quick hockey and NBA playoff observations, with notes on defensive ratings and roster observations.

8. Best and Worst of the Weekend—Team Roundtable (44:20–47:01)

• Todd:
  • Best: Sixers historic comeback over Celtics after trailing 3–1
  • Worst: Reds’ wild pitching meltdown against the Pirates—seven consecutive walks in one inning
• Dylan:
  • Best: Cam Young’s wire-to-wire Cadillac golf win
  • Worst: Mario, the director, bets on six Puerto Rican jockeys at the Derby, but not the winning one.
• Marvin:
  • Best: Jared Allen's big playoff performance for the Cavaliers
  • Worst: Reed Shepherd's shooting woes in Lakers game.
• Paulie:
  • Best: Horse racing reporter Donna Brothers retires after 26 Derbies
  • Worst: Scary Derby mishap with the horse “Great White” and a rookie jockey.
• Continued playful debate about Fleetwood Mac and songwriting teams.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Patrick:

  “If you’re putting Lionel Richie on there, I gotta put Billy Joel on there.” (10:27)

• Marvin (on Dolly Parton):

  “Dolly Parton should just be in there alone. Just for writing 'Jolene' and 'I Will Always Love You' in the same day.” (06:53–06:59)

• Paulie (on music list snubs):

  “It feels like these New York Times lists and other lists, they kind of want you to be upset about a snub. And maybe the Billy Joel snub is on purpose because Fiona Apple made the list.” (11:28)

• Dan Patrick (on family reactions):

  “I'm looking for an audience at home...The dog will listen, but she can't respond. The cat, he's not listening…" (14:56)

• Caller Ernie:

  “You make women want to listen to your show...we all listen to Billy Joel. I mean, what is going on? Why is he not on that list? The Piano Man." (26:54)

Memorable Light Moments

• Playful “concert war stories” about Billy Joel and Alexa.
• The show jokes about Alexa (Billy Joel's daughter) triggering Amazon devices.
• Dan: “Maybe they should have expanded it to 50. All you gotta do is be alive. Hall & Oates. Billy Joel. They’re alive.” (13:05)
• Paulie’s comparison of Billy Joel’s ‘70s/‘80s popularity to Terry Bradshaw’s Super Bowl success.
• Todd and Marvin improv Billy Joel lyric jokes, including “For the Longest Time,” and the famous “Allentown.”

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Key Timestamps

• 02:12 — Segment begins, NYT Magazine songwriter list sparks debate
• 03:59 — Discussion about who’s left off the list, standards for inclusion
• 06:53–07:03 — Praise for Dolly Parton’s songwriting; humorous Jolene story
• 10:27 — The Lionel Richie vs. Billy Joel debate
• 11:28–12:11 — List “snub bait,” Fiona Apple vs. Billy Joel
• 14:01 — Who's the greatest living songwriter? Bob Dylan consensus
• 17:12–18:44 — Comparing Billy Joel to Terry Bradshaw and live concert stories
• 24:51–29:43 — Listener calls on songwriters, sports, and show personalities
• 35:37–38:59 — NBA coaching carousel and franchise futures
• 44:20–47:01 — "Best and Worst of the Weekend" panel segment

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Tone & Style

• Laid-back, witty, sometimes irreverent, fueled by camaraderie and nostalgia
• Frequent sports-to-pop-culture analogies
• Banter, mild self-deprecation, and a focus on including listeners in the conversation

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Summary

Hour 2 of The Dan Patrick Show is a lively, music-and-sports-infused roundtable, centered around the controversy over the New York Times’ living American songwriters list. The conversation is equal parts analysis, nostalgia, humor, and crowd-sourced opinion—ranging from genuine musical admiration (especially for Dolly Parton) to playful sports analogies and listener engagement. Snubs like Billy Joel and Hall & Oates drive passionate, tongue-in-cheek debate, while the segment slides easily into trademark Dan Patrick Show territory: playful mocking of one another, fielding quirky calls, and riffing on current NBA and MLB storylines, before closing with highlights and lowlights from the weekend—including a wink at the show's own cult-hit spinoff, the “ToddCast.” The hour embodies the show's ethos: blend pop culture, sports, and fun, with a knowing smile toward the audience.

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Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio Hour 2 on this Monday. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. Best and worst of the weekend operator Tyler sitting by doing nothing but ANSWERING YOUR PHONE CALLS. 877-3DP SHOW we say good morning those watching on Peacock, also NBC Sports Network, or those listening on our radio affiliates around the country. For my birthday, Rec Tech is giving away a grill. You can go to rectech.com and search the Dan Patrick show for details. Then Tune in for Friday, May 15. Chef Greg from Rec Tech will be here to give it away. Give it away, give it away now. Reckon. Teq, Speaking of music, picked up the New York Times Magazine. Taylor Swift was on the COVID And I go, all right, I'll, I'll read about Taylor Swift. And it was the 50 greatest living American songwriters. And I thought, okay, I'll look at that. And you go through and you see Bob Dylan is in there. Carol King is in there, gave us the great album Tapestry. You got Outcast in there. So there's bad Bunnies in there. There's a variety of artists in there. And you're kind of going through Stevie Wonders in there and you're going, okay, Bruce Springsteen. All right. Then all of a sudden I go, well, hall and Oates are still alive. I think they wrote most of their music. And then I go, billy Joel is still alive. I think he wrote most of his. They're not in there. So the top 50American living American songwriters, is it top 50 or top 30? Paul?

[Paulie]

I got 30.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, well, maybe they should have gone to 50s. So then Billy Joel and Holland Oates would have made that. But I was kind of surprised at this list. That and some of the, some of the artists I didn't know, and some of them are just songwriters. But I did, I was kind of surprised that hall and Oates and Billy Joel didn't make the cut.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paul, I'm reading the list and I'm surprised with Billy Joel because even if you don't like his music, you can't argue with the success of his work for, you know, a 10 year period. They did have a postscript article, 11 Great American Songwriters who didn't make our list. The New York Times, they did that because of the reaction.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, who did they put in there?

[Paulie]

All the people you just named that didn't make it. Like Billy Joel and a few others.

[Dan Patrick]

Did hall and Oates make their list of. Because I don't, I don't know if they wrote their music. I know Billy Joel did.

[Paulie]

Frank Ocean made it. Billy Joel did. Hall and Oates did not.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, well, we, I. To be fair to the list in New York Times, I should check and see if hall and Oates actually wrote their music. Kendrick Lamar is in there. You know, there's people that deserve to be in there. It just kind of surprising that you have the, the 30 greatest living American songwriters and Billy Joel doesn't make that list.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paul, does it matter if an artist writes his songs or her songs?

[Dan Patrick]

James Taylor's not in there, is he? Because I think James Taylor wrote his music, so I'm not. I'm not. I don't think James Taylor is in there among the top 30. Yeah. Paulie.

[Paulie]

I remember seeing an interview with Garth Brooks, the great country star at his peak, and he even said, I don't write the songs. I'm giving songs. I'm the performer. And because people were asking, oh, you don't write your own songs.

[Dan Patrick]

It's.

[Paulie]

If it's a bad thing, he goes, well, you know, Robert De Niro doesn't write his own lines.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, there are. Sinatra didn't write anything, I don't think. I mean, I get it. There's certain artists that will take what you give them and then make it theirs. But did Chris Stapleton make it in among the greatest living American songwriters? I don't know if Chris did. He's written over a thousand songs. He's written songs where he hands them out to other people. He said Adele. He. He wrote a song for Adele. This is. He said, I didn't even know who Adele was at the time. But, you know, he wrote a song for her. Wrote a song for Darius Rucker. I mean, he's written a lot of songs. I would think that he would be in there. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

We got Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton in there, and Young Thug and Willie

[Dan Patrick]

Nelson should be in there. Willie. Willie is one of the great songwriters of all time. And any list that has Dolly Parton in, I'm fine with that. Yes, Marvin.

[Todd]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

Dolly Parton should just be in there alone. Just for writing. Jolene and I will always love you in the same day.

[Dan Patrick]

Jolene, I think Dolly talked about. She eventually ran into Jolene years later, and she said basically that Jolene didn't. Didn't hold up. Like Jolene didn't look like Jolene when she wrote the song. Yeah. Yes, Marv.

[Marvin]

There's pictures of young Dolly Parton, and the question always is, what did Jolene look like? Because if you're leaving Dolly Parton for Jolene had better been top five, dead or alive.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But this is Dolly talking about how beautiful Jolene was.

[Marvin]

I need a young p. Need a young picture. Young Jolene.

[Dan Patrick]

The Magic have fired Jamal Mosley. Well, here we go. So Billy Donovan and I was told this a while ago when it looked like he was going to leave the Bulls, that where would his two. Two places be that he would go to? One was Golden State, and the other one was the Orlando Magic. Well, the Magic make the playoffs. They're playing well. Jamal Mosley is not going to get fired if they end up winning that series and move on, no matter what would happen that next round. But Billy Donovan, maybe this time he does take the Orlando Magic job. I did talk about the Sixers, Joe. LMD talking about don't sell your tickets to the Knicks when they come to town. 2024. The Sixers ownership group bought more than 2,000 tickets during a first round playoff series to keep them out of the hands of the New York Knicks. Now, this time around, ticket sales will be limited to those located in the, quote, greater Philadelphia area, end quote. The team plans to make sure that this is the case by confirming where you live based on the credit card billing address of the purchaser to make sure the Knicks are still going to get tickets. We're not fooling anybody here. You're going to get your ticket and tickets and no matter what, you'll probably sell them if you think you can make, you know, good money. Because the Nick song, the Nick folks are going to be coming in and spending money here. So let's see best and worst of the weekend phone calls coming up. Dylan, the poll results from hour one. And what are you going to go with an hour two?

[Dylan]

Our latest poll, Dan, was would you take a Triple Crown win if it meant being jockey height the rest of your life? About 67? Say no for the second hour. We got one from Paulie about the Derby is when, when it comes to winning a race, who should get the most credit? The horse, the jockey, the trainer, or the owner?

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. And I would say I think the

[Dylan]

trainer ends up getting a lot of the credit. They tend to be the most famous, obviously. Secretary. There's been famous horses, but the trainers who win tend to, I think, get associated the most with it.

[Dan Patrick]

Nile Rogers is on this list of great songwriters. Lucinda Williams is on here as a great songwriter.

[Caller Kenny]

And.

[Dan Patrick]

And most of these people belong on this list, I would think. But I still would be if, if you can see Todd, you should know. Well, I don't know if you'll know, but Stevie wonders on this. Did hall and Oates write their own music?

[Todd]

Everything I'm looking at suggests that the majority were from hall and Oates, that Daryl hall wrote a lot of them. John Hoats did a few. There was some collaboration. There was a woman named Sarah something that was part of it, but that they supposedly wrote most of their own music.

[Dan Patrick]

Paul Simon is on here. Jay Z is on here. Obviously, Taylor Swift is on here. I mean, there's Missy Elliott's on here. Lionel Richie. Okay. If you're putting Lionel Richie on there, I got to put Billy Joel on there. And I think that there is a podcast on, you know, this topic. And I think somebody talked about Billy Joel's music being schlocky. I think that was the word. But I mean, Lionel Richie had. See, I don't want to do this.

[Marvin]

Come on now.

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Marvin]

I don't want to not get in this lane.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't want to be criticizing somebody to try to lift up somebody else. But Lionel Richie. Billy Joel. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Worst song. We Didn't Start the Fire or Dancing on the Ceiling.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, let me ask Todd.

[Todd]

I would go with We Didn't Start the Fire is not quite as good as Dancing on the Ceiling.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yes, Paul.

[Paulie]

It feels like these New York Times lists and other lists, they're kind of want you to be upset about a snub. And maybe the Billy Joel snub is on purpose because Fiona Apple made the list. She had a nice little two year run. She was famous for a while and had some cool songs. I don't know if she had the impact or success of Billy Joel. And I'm being very fair.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm surprised Sheryl Crow is not on here. I mean, she's a hall of famer. But Chris Stapleton did not make it. Oh, my God. Hey, I don't want to get too caught up in it. I just. I was surprised at that. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

I think we could agree that Billy Joel and Lionel Richie are both kind of schlocky.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, they're together. Yeah. But I mean, nobody's written a hit in whatever, 40 years, I don't think. Yes, Paul.

[Paulie]

Part of writing a song is making it successful, not just being cool and hip or whatever. Like, whatever worked for Lionel Richie worked.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And Lionel Richie was Commodores.

[Marvin]

He was.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. All right. But I don't know how much he wrote for the Commodores. I don't know.

[Marvin]

I mean, I'll take Brick House. If I write Brick House, I'm all right.

[Caller Kenny]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, what'd you think of Running with the night, Playing in the shadows? That was a pretty cool song. Lionel Richie.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't. I don't. I don't know if I'm familiar with that. They were running with the night Playing

[Todd]

in the shadows Just you and I

[Dan Patrick]

Till the morning light. Still not familiar.

[Todd]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I mean, you know, maybe they should have expanded it to 50.

[Caller Kenny]

All right.

[Dan Patrick]

All you gotta do is be alive. All the notes. Billy Joel. They're alive. Yes. Dylan.

[Dylan]

I think there was a massive oversight here in that Todd wasn't even considered for the list. He has written numerous original songs.

[Dan Patrick]

You know what? Snub talking Pittsburgh, let's get quizzical. One dining one dining mole.

[Todd]

I should bump Fiona Apple for sure. I don't know about the other ones.

[Caller Kenny]

All right,

[Marvin]

take that Stevie Wonder conversation.

[Caller Kenny]

Your face.

[Todd]

You gotta answer it just right.

[Ernie]

You know what I mean?

[Dan Patrick]

Don't goog it.

[Todd]

Just try to think it out.

[Dan Patrick]

All righty. Alrighty. Yes, Marv, to you.

[Marvin]

Who's the greatest living songwriter just overall?

[Dan Patrick]

Dylan.

[Marvin]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'd say Dylan, he's still writing good music. He can't sing good music, but he still usually gets favorable reviews for his music that he's still writing today. So I. I would say Dylan with what he wrote, what it meant, and it still continues to perform.

[Marvin]

Yes, Mark, I know your issue was some of these guys haven't written hits in 40, 50 years, but I think it's basically at their apex. They were just churning out just unbelievable songs.

[Caller Kenny]

Correct?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yes. Yeah. Paul.

[Paulie]

Yeah. That's like saying Jim Brown hasn't had a thousand yard season, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but he's dead, so he couldn't be on the list. Okay. Yeah. Just saying.

[Paulie]

I love how upset you get because during the commercial break, I could hear you on the phone going, yeah, did you see the list? You're talking to someone about the list.

[Dan Patrick]

I was talking to my wife because I. I'm looking for an audience at home. And you know, the. The dog will listen, but, you know, she can't respond. The cat, he's not listening. My daughters usually have their earbuds in. And then there's my wife. And. And so I'm complaining about, how do you not have Billy Joel? Like, I don't. I don't understand that. And then I started bringing up other names and then all of a sudden I'm getting worked up and there's really nobody to play off of. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

So that means the list did its job.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but I don't like being toyed with like that. No, it's like when the mothership had Michael Jordan, the greatest college player of all time. It was embarrassing. Even Mike would say, no way. Lu Alcindor is the greatest college player of all time. It's not even close, but it's like, we got to get eyeballs on this. Didn't the WNBA just have something about the top 10 players and they put Caitlin Clark on the page and she's 10th on the list, so you got to Put her up there just so you can tune. You know you're going to read it. Bait and switch. Click. Bait and switch is what it is.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paul, I think I had the football comp to the. The snub of Billy Joel. Should I save it or do it now?

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, is it, is it worthy to go?

[Paulie]

No, it's not worth it.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

I would say Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw never gets in conversations with great quarterbacks, but if you look at the numbers, four Super Bowls and he was responsible for a lot of getting them there and winning, but he never gets discussed. Billy Joel success, you can't argue with,

[Dan Patrick]

okay, who was better in the 70s, Billy Joel, Joel or Terry Bradshaw? That old question.

[Paulie]

That's a great one though. I think it's fair because Billy Joel success, you may think it's hokey now, but he was gigantic in the 70s

[Dan Patrick]

and 80s and he's dating Elle McPherson and Christy Brinkley, reportedly at the same time.

[Paulie]

His list is better than your list.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, but his, his kiss on my list. There you go, the hole in oats, Todd.

[Todd]

And Billy Joel is doing it by himself. You know, he got, you know, he, he was like a one man gang. So that I would lean towards. But Terry Bradshaw had terrible towel, great defense, Steel Curtain and Stallworth and Swan and Franco Harris, Rocky Blair.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, we, we, we, we know.

[Todd]

I'm just. That's why I lean towards. Of the two hokey ones, I would go less hokey to Billy Joel.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think Billy. I don't think Terry Bradshaw was hokey.

[Todd]

But to Paul's point about like what we, you know, putting those two together and making them analogous. It's because of the hokiness that they would. We make an analogy between those two being left out of things.

[Dan Patrick]

Get Terry Bradshaw and Billy Joel on the phone there. Toddlers.

[Todd]

That would be something.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, you'd be in heaven if that

[Todd]

would be a fantastic.

[Dan Patrick]

Hi, Billy. I just want to say I wanted to move to Allentown because I wanted to live. I'm living here in Allentown. I didn't start the fire. I wanted to play the piano.

[Todd]

I could sing the Pittsburgh song to Terry.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that'd be great. Yes, Marv.

[Marvin]

I could just hear Fritzi. Oh, Billy. I've been a fan for the longest time. See, what I did is this song for the longest time.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd, I think you and me, the only ones. You've seen Billy Joel in concert.

[Todd]

I saw him multiple times.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You saw him with Elton John.

[Todd]

I did. I saw him with Elton John. I Saw him separately, I'd say at least three times, and it was great. And I saw him recently for the last concert that he did. I don't know if he's ever going to perform again because of health issues, but I saw him at Mohegan sun last February and that was his last concert so far.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Todd]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

I got to see him at the Garden in the same row with Christy Brinkley.

[Todd]

That's awesome.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And then they're, let's see, who do they have? Well, his daughter sang. Yeah.

[Todd]

Alexa.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Alexa came on stage.

[Todd]

They put the boat on the stage too, which was really weird. I don't know how they were able to put the whole yacht thing on there.

[Dylan]

The down Easter.

[Todd]

Yeah. Take a. Ladies and gentlemen, the down Easter. Alexa. And she came on there on the boat and they pulled it in with like a rope.

[Dan Patrick]

But don't you think if you're saying, hey, Alexa, and then the Alexa thing comes on every time you're talking to

[Todd]

her, that would be problematic?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Caller Kenny]

Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

How about we take a break? No, no, no, no. We're not doing this.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paul, if this were 1987, it would have been the greatest segment radio history.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it'd be a great segment there. I think we answer our own question why we don't win a sports Emmy. Take a break. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey is cabino and Rick from Fox Sports Radio now, in addition to hearing

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[Paulie]

10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.

[Marvin]

I was having trouble stopping the muscle

[Superhuman Podcast Narrator]

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[Ernie]

The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection.

[Debbie Brown]

This Mental Health Awareness month. Tune into the podcast Deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self discovery and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace and self mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier, we're not becoming more social and connected, we're becoming more individualized, but we actually need people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you. To hear more. Listen to Deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Covino or Rich]

If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down.

[Dan Patrick]

Portia accusing Kelly of sleeping with a married man. They holding K. Michelle back from fighting.

[Marvin]

Drew Pinky has financial issues.

[Ernie]

I like the bougie style of Housewives show.

[Dan Patrick]

I think it looks like it's gonna be interesting.

[Covino or Rich]

On the podcast Reality with the King I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the tea everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this at the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, Listen to Reality with the king on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

Orlando Magic have fired their head coach and Billy Donovan could be the front runner for that. Jamal Mosley got He was there for five years, made the playoffs the last three years, bowed out in the first round those three years. But if they win this series, no matter what happens the following series, does he keep his job? He's still the same coach. If they win that game and they get swept by Cleveland, does he get fired? Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

I think so. It kind of felt inevitable. Anything outside of a crazy championship, maybe Eastern Conference championship run? Only because I think there was been, you know, looming issues between Paolo Banchero.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

And the head coach.

[Dan Patrick]

And I wonder if they've been entertaining the idea of Billy Donovan maybe quietly, privately laying groundwork there. They got to move on from Jalen Suggs. Jalen Suggs shouldn't be in that rotation. He was shooting, you know, 29%, I think, from 3 point range. And I know he's had injuries. He'd just never been a great player. You know, Bain played well. Bronze Wagner is a really good player. Paolo is a really good player. They. They have a nucleus here. This is one of those where you kind of go in, you add a little bit, and then all of a sudden, like, you're legitimate. Yes, Marv.

[Marvin]

And they were the eight seed, but their eight seed was misleading because they kind of underachieved all season long. I think Jamal Crawford said that also, like, they weren't your typical 8 seed. It wasn't like the Charlotte Hornets that got in.

[Dan Patrick]

Zach and Knoxville. Good morning, Zach. What's on your mind?

[Caller Kenny]

Adp, thanks for taking my call. Draymond saying that Steve Kerr hindered him is like Dylan saying that. You're holding him back. I think he'd be a French podcaster, probably a forklift operator at best. But my question is, do you think anybody in the east can compete with whoever comes out of the West? I think any team that comes out of the west, it can beat any team that comes out of the East. Do you agree with that?

[Dan Patrick]

It's hard to picture if it's the Knicks or the Sixers or the Cavs, Detroit. I just. I mean, I'm looking at the odds here. From DraftKings, the Thunder minus 145. Then it's a big, big drop to the spurs at +3.70. And then a really big drop to the Knicks, third at +850. Then it goes down to the Pistons +1800. I mean, they're really not factoring in. The spurs would be in the Western Conference finals, and if the Thunder played the Knicks, they'd be big, big favorites. They're huge favorites with everybody else. Pistons, Cavs, Sixers, Timberwolves are plus 10,000 to win it all. Yes. Morph.

[Marvin]

We haven't talked about the Thunder or the spurs because they've been done playing for the last week. They took care of business, and everyone else has gone to six or seven games.

[Dan Patrick]

Sounded like you're yelling at people.

[Marvin]

I'm sorry, guys. I was just. I just riled up.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, fair enough. Ernie in Houston. Hi, Ernie. What's on your mind today?

[Ernie]

Hello, Mr. Dan Patrick. You are amazing because you make women want to listen to your show. Thank you for bringing up Billy Joel. We have six brothers. They're all athletes. And I listen to you because my husband of 36 years and my beautiful son who's an all star athlete, Lawrence Sandoval, we all listen to Billy Joel. I mean, what is going on? Why is he not on that list? The piano Man.

[Dan Patrick]

I agree, Ernie, and thank you. You are correct that women love to listen to this show. I don't know if they love to watch the show. Did she say watch the show? I think it's just listening, you know, maybe. Ernie, do you watch the show or listen to the show?

[Ernie]

I do both.

[Caller Kenny]

Oh.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh.

[Ernie]

I'm in the car with my husband. We listen to the reruns, and then when I'm at home in the morning, I listen to you because you've really elevated the importance of sports.

[Caller Kenny]

You.

[Ernie]

You really acclimate what it means to be a true sportsman. It's all about life, really.

[Dan Patrick]

Ernie, if you're going to rank the handsomeness of the show, could you do that for me?

[Ernie]

Well, I have six brothers, so I can say truly, I would give you a five.

[Dan Patrick]

I get a five.

[Ernie]

I like. Yeah, I like. Well, out of seven, you know, when you. You know, when you think about it, when you think about.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know, it's out of 10. Ernie, like, oh, no, no, no.

[Ernie]

We don't do 10 in fashion. You do seven. You do.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm talking about looks.

[Ernie]

Oh, looks. I would say eight because I like sweats.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, then Fritzi's probably a 10.

[Ernie]

Well, hey, take what you will, but the reality is you are elevating sports.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, thank you, Ernie. You elevated me. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Sound like Ernie didn't want to answer the question.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think so. I don't think so.

[Todd]

Little non committal there with the numbers.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. It's okay. Kenny in Boston. Hi, Kenny. How's morale today?

[Caller Kenny]

Thanks. Taking my call. Dp Best of the weekend is just playoff hockey in general. I'm a Cane fan, but honestly, any. Any NHL game you watch in playoff is just awesome. You can't beat the intensity, the energy of it. But worst of the weekend, Dan is getting into a big fight. My wife. And it was strictly due to Fritzi driving home from a trip trying to kill time. And each took turns putting on a podcast. Thought we tried the Todd cast from last week, and needless to say, the wife was not happy. She's questioning now what I'm interested in. My character. Even your show, to be honest. So I'm in David's control. Dp. So thanks, Todd.

[Dan Patrick]

I tell everybody the Todd cast is not for Everybody, but everybody should at least try. Is pretty fascinating in the, you know, it's a Beautiful Mind, the movie Russell Crowe. This is a perverted mind starring Todd Fritz.

[Todd]

It shouldn't cause marital discourse or discord or any kind of problems like that. It's all. It's good, clean fun. I don't know how clean it is, but it's good fun.

[Dan Patrick]

It's not clean.

[Todd]

It's good fun.

[Dan Patrick]

Russell in Philly. Hi, Russ. What's on your mind today?

[Caller Kenny]

Hey, dan. Dan, it's 612 10. Member of the BBC. Thanks for taking my call. So best and worst of the weekend. I got two best. My son went on a singer prom Friday night, June 2. He'll be graduating July 31. He'll be heading off to college to play football. And my bestest is, is after 42 years, we finally beat the Celtics in the playoffs and we're on our way to beat on the Knicks and stop crying, Jalen Brown. You guys are up 3:1. You should have closed it out. We had the chance.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Thank you, Russell. Yeah, he's right. But you know when you say there's an agenda and referees told you that they had an agenda, once again, I'll be shocked if Jaylen Brown does not get fined for those comments. Now, this is a different commissioner. This is a player friendly commissioner. But this was on his Twitch account. It wasn't after the game, it wasn't post game. It was on his Twitch account. Dwayne in Pittsburgh. Hi, Duane.

[Caller Kenny]

Hey, Dan. How you doing?

[Dan Patrick]

Good.

[Caller Kenny]

Can you hear me? Hey, before, I wanted to talk about that Joe Morgan bottle of wine because I, I made it. But before we go to Joe Morgan, what about Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam

[Dan Patrick]

as his songwriter? I don't know if that's a collaborative effort, but I don't know if Eddie is solely responsible for writing Pearl Jam, but not everything.

[Caller Kenny]

But he wrote most of those songs on 10, which was one of their, you know, biggest and best albums ever.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'm surfing.

[Caller Kenny]

That was his demo tape to get the job. I mean, pretty. Pretty good songwriter.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And thank you for the bottle that you sent. It's a Joe Morgan bottle of wine that was made by the folks who run the Roberto Clemente Museum. And then Dylan brought it back. And thank you, Dwayne, for doing that. Joe Morgan of the Big Red Machine. I was kind of surprised that in Pittsburgh they didn't like Big Red Machine and vice versa. Big rivalry there. But thank you for sending that. 877 3DP. Show still haven't heard anything about Steve Kerr. Now there have been articles that say either he is going to leave, he's making 17 million. Do you want to have that amount of money on the books with a coach and you're not going to be a championship caliber team? I think Orlando would be interesting. If you're going to coach, you either want to go where you got a chance to win again, or maybe you have a team sort of in the embryonic stages of being that team in Orlando. You can make the argument that that is a, that's a good nucleus there. You know, they're off the radar because they're in Orlando. Does Billy Donovan take the Orlando. I don't see Steve Kerr going to the Chicago Bulls, even though he's beloved in the city. But Orlando, I could see Billy Donovan doing that. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paul, if you're Golden State, how much do you want to keep Steve Kerr?

[Dan Patrick]

I. I wouldn't because I'm not winning. You. You almost have to have a change in philosophy. But here's the hard part. You know, you still have Stephen and playing at a pretty high level. What do you do with Draymond, Jimmy Butler? I mean, can you blow it up and still keep Steph Curry? But I don't know, do I want to? I mean, that. That franchise spends money. They're not afraid of the aprons. But do I want to pay Steve Kerr for a team that might be a 500 team? And I would say no. But if you still had. I mean, they're just not a championship caliber team. I think they're, they're still entertaining because Steph is still wonderful and Draymond can be entertaining, good and bad. But even they've kind of missed on some rookies. The James Wiseman one, you get him second pick overall, that's where you're going to go. Oh my God. The, the riches, the luxuries that we have here. I was also looking at this. If, if this matters to you. It does me the regular season defensive ratings. Now, I'm, I'm not always big on this, but this. The Pistons were the number one rated defensive team. Spurs were second, then the Knicks. How can the Knicks be third with Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns?

[Marvin]

Yes, Marvin, I think they have great defensive players like Miles Bridges and Not Miles Bridges, OG Anunoby and Mikhail Bridges.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, the Lakers are fourth on the list.

[Marvin]

Market small.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes,

[Marvin]

he's making up.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, come on. So the top four highest rated defensive teams are still in the playoffs. The Rockets after That the Magic Timberwolves, OKC Celtics and then the Cavaliers. But you know, you start to look at this and this is when defense matters, when you get to the postseason. But I can't imagine like the Lakers, the fourth best defensive rating. Marcus Smart must have really cleaned up a lot of messes there. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marvin DeAndre 8 and 2. Maybe they play good team defense.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Okay, team defense. Let's see David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind today?

[Caller Kenny]

Hey, Dan, I hope you had a good weekend. Best of my weekend watching the Cavs and the Raptors last night. And friend of the show, reggie Aloysius Miller Jr. III goes up into the third row to help out Donovan Mitchell,

[Dan Patrick]

I believe up in the third row

[Caller Kenny]

after he was chasing a ball and I thought that was, that was so cool. So thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, David, Steve Kerr, I think is going to go into the media again. You're 60 years of age. You got a Hall of Fame career, coaching career. You've won titles. You're as decorated as just about anybody in the history of the game. ESPN probably desperately would love to have him. There are reports. Steve could go to espn, I could see that. But man, that's a grind. And, and to be a championship caliber team to win. And then all of a sudden you're just an average team. I mean, that Phil Jackson, he mastered it. He knew, hey, I got, I got Michael Jordan, I got Scotty Pippen, now we got Rodman winning championships. All right, they want to take the wrecking ball to it. They're not going to bring back everybody to win another championship. I'll go to the Lakers. And we saw what happened there. I couldn't imagine Phil Jackson, even though going to the Knicks to try to run that organization didn't work out, but it's got to be so tough that you're, you're one of the, the winners, greatest winners. And then all of a sudden, games aren't going to matter. Now, I know they matter, but you're not playing for high stakes. And having played with the Bulls, he was on the spurs coaching staff. Then you have Steph and Clay Draymond. You're winning titles and then you're going to go to what? That's why I think I'd go back to the media, maybe do that for five years.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, Steve Kerr, four titles, 12 seasons in Golden State. Remember when he got hired? I just saw a couple articles. I don't think he had coached head coached any game at any level.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he turned down Phil Jackson with the Knicks. And I thought, wow.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Because then I thought, all right, what's he see that maybe I'm not seeing? This is kind of like when Pete Carroll went to Seattle. Now, I know there was probably some other reasons why he left college football, but Seattle was in Seattle when he went there. But. And you know, with Golden State, they weren't that motion offense shooting threes. You know, that when Steve, you know, with Mark Jackson there, they were a different team. And Steve came in and like, we're going to change this or maybe Steph Curry changed Steve Kerr. Yeah, Paulie, I don't want to use

[Paulie]

the word lucky, but Steve Kerr being fortunate to play or coach with certain players. He played with Michael Jordan. He played underneath Popovich. He's coached Steph Curry at his peak. I mean, alignment works. The right alignment.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I think it's fortunate you can use it. Yeah, he's fortunate. He's fortunate. How about we take a break? When we come back, we will give you our best and worst of the weekend. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Superhuman Podcast Narrator]

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

[Paulie]

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on £10.

[Marvin]

I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

[Superhuman Podcast Narrator]

Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Covino or Rich]

If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down.

[Dan Patrick]

Portia accusing Kelly of sleeping with a married man.

[Marvin]

They holding K. Michell from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues.

[Ernie]

I like the bougie style of Housewives show.

[Dan Patrick]

I think it looks like it's gonna

[Covino or Rich]

be interesting on the Podcast Reality with the King I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the tea everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand as somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this at the end of the day when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the king on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Ernie]

The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection.

[Debbie Brown]

This Mental health awareness month, tune into the podcast Deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace and self mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected, we're becoming more individualized, but we actually need people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you. To hear more. Listen to Deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

The ToddCast review, 4.9 stars out of five. So congratulations, Todd, on your podcast. [e-mail] A couple of comments here. The Todd cast is what happens when confidence outruns direction. No structure, no plan, all Todd. Another one says five stars somehow makes less sense the more you listen. Okay. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paul, what's the recommended age to listen to this show?

[Dan Patrick]

To the Todd cast, Like the.

[Paulie]

Is there a minimum,

[Dylan]

like a board game? Like ages, whatever, nine and up? Yeah, I'd go older than that.

[Dan Patrick]

I'd say 21. That fair?

[Dylan]

Legally, 18, I think, makes you an adult. Right. 21 though, just for a little buffer.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, it's. It's more than PG13. It's R, but like it's a funny, friendly R. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Ah, I think it's NC17. Oh, I think it's Showgirls of podcasting.

[Dan Patrick]

Whoa. The Showgirls. Let's go around the room. Best and worst of the weekend. Todd, I'm gonna start with you.

[Todd]

Okay. Russell from Philly will appreciate this one. The Sixers were an NBA record. Oh, and 18 when trailing 3:1 in a series. The Celtics were 32:0 when having a 3:1 series lead. But Philly beats Boston. The playoff Sally for the first time since 1982. And Maxi and Embiid first team teammates in NBA history each have at least 30, 10 and 5 in a game. Seven worst your Reds against the Pirates. Sally in the bottom of the second inning off. You guys saw this. Cincinnati pitchers combined to walk seven consecutive batters as part of a five run inning. Pittsburgh scored their first four runs of the inning without having to put the ball in play. The Pirates batted around three times in the first four innings. Had every Pirate started driving at least one run. And for the second straight game, Reds catcher Jose Trevino had to pitch the seventh and eighth innings. The staff threw a total of 111 strikes and 100 balls. Come on, Reds, let's get it together.

[Dan Patrick]

Dylan, best and worst.

[Dylan]

All right, Dan. My best of the weekend, Cam Young goes wire to wire, wins the Cadillac championship, even called a penalty on himself. There's ball moved out address, but he's playing some pretty good golf lately. My worst, Dan. There were seven Puerto Rican jockeys in the Kentucky Derby. Mario, our director, who happens to be Puerto Rican, bet on six of them.

[Dan Patrick]

Not the winner.

[Dylan]

That is a true story.

[Dan Patrick]

Mario, who has uneven breasts.

[Dylan]

Oh, no.

[Dan Patrick]

By the way, we found that out last week. Yeah, we did. Yeah. You guys took a picture in Pittsburgh in a bar and had your shirts off.

[Dylan]

When I look good by comparison.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Dylan]

That means there's problems.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yes. Paul.

[Paulie]

So this is your breast of the weekend.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, oh, the.

[Dylan]

And worse.

[Dan Patrick]

Blue. Blue.

[Todd]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. So that's interesting because Mario was bragging about the Puerto Rican jockey winning. He didn't say that he didn't bet on that horse.

[Dylan]

Oh, but he did not.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Marvin, Best and worst.

[Marvin]

God, Mariel's breast is awful. Best of the weekend, Jared Allen, 22 points at 19 rebounds, three blocks. He look like Shaq in the second half.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

For the Cavaliers, worst of the weekend, our boy Reed Shepherd, 4 for 19 from the field, 1 for 10 from three in their loss against the Lakers. They needed him to kind of just step up. Not even be Kevin Durant, but just step up a little.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Paul. Best and worst.

[Paulie]

Best of the weekend. NBC's iconic horseback reporter Donna Brothers after 26 Kentucky Derbies is retiring. That's a very tough sideline job interviewing a horse after a race.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Let me see. Melissa Stark be on a horse on the sidelines for Kansas City Chiefs game.

[Paulie]

Yeah. And she did a really good interview with the jockey.

[Dan Patrick]

She did.

[Paulie]

Yeah. It was. It was good.

[Caller Kenny]

Tv.

[Paulie]

The worst of the weekend, just before the Kentucky Derby started. There was a horse called Great White and it got kind of bumped before it got in the thing and jumped up, fell back over, almost crushed the jockey. And they were both scratched from the race. And it was the jockey's first time in a Kentucky Derby. Could have been really dangerous.

[Dan Patrick]

Imagine that's your horse, you got your family, big moment all day. All everybody gets dressed up. All of a sudden it's the Derby, and all of a sudden your horse going into the gate and then all of a sudden not going in the gate. Yes, Dill.

[Dylan]

I will say Great White had some fire, though. If that horse was allowed to race, I think it's gonna do some damage.

[Dan Patrick]

Stacy in North Carolina. Hi, Stacy. What's on your mind?

[Caller Kenny]

Hey, Dan, Good morning. Thank you. I'm a smooth 150. I wanted to give you for the poll question. Fleetwood Map, Nick Fleetwood Rumors. How is that not on the list? Or did I miss it? And they are on the list.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, this is individual artists. This isn't team. And I don't know, you know, Lindsey Buckingham probably had more to do with the modern day version of Fleetwood Mac, but I don't know if he was. You know, I think they all wrote under Fleetwood Mac. Yes. Marv.

[Marvin]

Oh, Contrary Monfrey. There are a couple of teams. Brian and Eddie Holland, they wrote a lot of the early Motown hits for

[Dan Patrick]

the Supremes, but they weren't in a band.

[Marvin]

Correct, but he was just saying duos.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Marvin]

And Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis are on this list and.

[Dan Patrick]

But they weren't artists. They were just writers.

[Marvin]

Correct. But I think he was just saying just teams overall instead of just individual songwriters by themselves.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yeah. You want to put them in there. This is one of those where if you put somebody in, you got to take somebody out. Yes. Mark.

[Marvin]

I don't see Billy Joe from Green Day in here.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm not even going down that road. Not gonna do that. No. Nice try, Marvin. I am staying in my Green Day lane.

[Marvin]

Come on. It's something unpredictable, but in the end, it's right.

[Todd]

I hope you have the time of your life.

[Dan Patrick]

More phone calls coming up. Best and worst of the weekend. Our good buddy, one of our favorites, Jim Jackson, will join us. He was working over the weekend. 877-3-DP Show. Email address [e-mail] and our Twitter handle @dpshow. Todd is here. So is Dylan, Marvin, Paulie, yours truly in the back room, guys. Final hour on this Monday, right after this.

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[Superhuman Podcast Narrator]

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the Enhanced Games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

[Paulie]

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on £10.

[Marvin]

I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

[Superhuman Podcast Narrator]

Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ernie]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

Guaranteed Human.