The Dan Patrick Show — Hour 2 (August 20, 2025)

Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show
Episode: Hour 2 – Arch Manning and Nick Saban in the NFL Together?, Greg Olsen
Host: Dan Patrick & Crew (Seton, Marvin, Paulie, Fritzy)
Main Guest: Greg Olsen (Fox Sports NFL Analyst, former NFL TE)

Episode Overview

Hour 2 centers on a fast-paced and humorous sports roundtable with the Dan Patrick crew. Key topics span the shifting NFL quarterback landscape (especially Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones with the Colts), wild rumors about Arch Manning and Nick Saban's NFL future, the enduring value (or wasted payroll) of pro athletes like John Wall, and a deep-dive football conversation with Fox’s Greg Olsen. The crew debates players’ career worth, explores team-building choices, navigates sports business/economics, and flashes their trademark banter and wit.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Colts' Quarterback Conundrum

• Anthony Richardson’s uncertain future: Richardsen, still just 23 and with limited experience, is viewed as one of the NFL's biggest question marks. The crew debates his fit and future — noting he's played fewer than a full season of games in two years and is younger than many incoming rookies. With Daniel Jones now in the picture, Dan wonders:
  • “Richardson…it might be the beginning of fading into the Josh Rosen category, a talent we never fully saw or realized.” – Dan Patrick [06:36]
• Coaching instability’s role: Decisions about QBs often come down to front office and coaching stability (or lack thereof). Comparisons with the Giants, who drafted Jackson Dart (as per the bit), amplify the challenge coaches face in win-now or rebuild scenarios.
• Potential trade bait: Dan reads Dan Orlovsky’s suggestion that teams should try to acquire Richardson for a mid-round pick, mentioning Eagles, Rams, and Vikings as possible suitors.
• Developmental QB speculation: “I don't know if I want Anthony Richardson trying to emulate Lamar Jackson…” – Dan Patrick [08:55]

2. Arch Manning & Nick Saban: NFL Rumor Mill

• Arch Manning's future at Texas: Despite his grandfather Archie’s claim (since walked back) that Arch is staying at Texas another year, Arch insists nothing’s decided:
  • “I'm really just taking it day by day right now.” – paraphrased by Dan Patrick [10:47]
• Saban-to-NFL myth-making:
  • The show pokes fun at rumors of Nick Saban coming out of TV retirement to coach the Browns and draft Arch Manning—highlighting how improbable the logistics and incentives would be.
  • “There’s a lot of things that have to happen for him to go, ‘I’ll give up the TV gig…’” – Dan Patrick [11:54]
  • The rumor’s origins (Lane Kiffin, Colin Cowherd, Greg McElroy) are traced with tongue-in-cheek glee.

3. NBA Player Contracts & Value: The John Wall Example

• A career of two halves: Once a five-time All-Star and #1 pick, John Wall’s career ends with him getting paid $44M to not play for the Rockets.
  • “You go from being an all-star to being told…we have to pay you, but we don't want you to play.” – Dan Patrick [15:12]
• Salary game segment: The crew plays a guessing game on Wall’s career earnings, humorously riffing on NBA salary inflation (“celery, celery, celery…”). Wall made $286 million, with $200 million earned after his last All-Star season [17:29].
• NBA vs. NFL contract culture: Multiple examples (Ben Simmons, Isaiah Hartenstein) illustrate NBA deals’ scale and guaranteed aspect compared to the NFL, eliciting envy and awe.

4. NFL Contract Negotiations & Player Representation (Greg Olsen Interview)

• Olsen’s contract experience:
  • “My agent, Drew Rosenhaus…handled all negotiations. I was up to speed…but no, I never participated directly.” – Greg Olsen [27:36]
• On Jerry Jones negotiating directly with players: Olsen says it’s unusual and may cross CBA boundaries if an agent is officially registered, but notes a player can always opt to self-represent.
  • “This is why you pay the money—to keep the personal animosity out…these contracts get tough.” – Greg Olsen [28:41]
• Which holdout is more concerning, Trey Hendrickson or Terry McLaurin?
  • Olsen sees Hendrickson’s Bengals absence as more damaging due to its defensive impact in an AFC arms race [30:01].

5. Front Offices Owning Draft Mistakes

• Olsen praises the Colts (and GM Chris Ballard) for potentially making a swift, honest evaluation of Anthony Richardson, even if it means admitting a top-5 miss:
  • “The best organizations understand… ‘This was a miss’... If you continue to push it down the road and say ‘it’s gonna change,’... typically that blows up the entire organization.” – Greg Olsen [31:39]
• Dan adds this QB churn (like Darnold, Mayfield, Geno) is now more common, and sometimes a new environment is best for all.

6. Broadcasting: The Art vs. Science

• Olsen breaks down the learned skills of TV vs. instinctual football analysis (timing, dealing with producers in your ear, play clocks, collaborating with play-by-play partners).
  • “There’s no such thing as a good color analyst without a good play-by-play guy. They are the heroes…” – Greg Olsen [38:17]
  • Dan notes that broadcast-timing and talking in soundbites is a huge adjustment—"20 seconds in TV...feels way different than on the field." [37:07]

7. Hall of Fame ‘Feel’ Debates

• Rapid fire session, Dan asks who feels more Hall of Fame: Matthew Stafford or Russell Wilson?
  • Initially, Greg Olsen says recency bias favors Stafford due to the Rams' run. But after Dan removes names, both agree Wilson easily gets the nod if basing only on statistics/accolades [40:03-40:47].
• On Cam Newton:
  • “When you talk about changing the way the game is played…Cam was at the front end of a lot of that.” – Greg Olsen [42:03]

8. Most Interesting NFL Teams: Draft

A crew round-robin debate on who is the most interesting (not “best”) NFL team for 2025—criteria open-ended:

• Picks included:
  • Steelers (Aaron Rodgers' new home)
  • Raiders
  • Falcons (“Bijan Robinson, Drake London, Kyle Pitts…can Penix make it work?”)
  • Buccaneers (Baker Mayfield’s leap)
  • Commanders (an “obvious” wild card)
  • Broncos, Bengals, Vikings in round two

9. Greg Olsen’s Podcast ‘Youth Inc.’

• Olsen describes his show on sports parenting and athlete development, with guests like Tom Brady and Malcolm Gladwell, and a focus on modern issues in youth sports culture [34:06].

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On ousted stars cashing big checks:
  “Of [John Wall’s] $286 million…he made $200 million after he stopped being an all-star.” – Paulie [17:54]
• On Nick Saban-to-NFL gossip:
  “Colin said it was the worst kept secret in the south…but when it came out, I’m like, I had not heard that.” – Dan Patrick [11:54]
• On candid self-correction by NFL GMs:
  “If you continue to push it down the road…typically that blows up the entire organization…So I do give Ballard a little bit of credit.” – Greg Olsen [31:39]
• On the ‘science’ of broadcasting:
  “The football part is the easy part. Making that fit into a three-hour live broadcast…is an adjustment.” – Greg Olsen [37:07]
• On changing the quarterback archetype:
  “When you talk about changing the way the game is played…there’s very few, if any, playing the way Cam Newton did. Now, the game is played on the move.” – Greg Olsen [41:39]

Timestamps for Notable Segments

| Segment | Description | Timestamp | |---|---|---| | Colts QB carousel & Anthony Richardson | Dan, Paulie, and crew dissect the Colts’ crossroads | 05:02 – 10:35 | | Arch Manning & Saban rumor mill | Manning rumors, Saban’s TV future, media misinformation | 10:35 – 13:19 | | John Wall career & NBA salary game | NBA contract culture, Wall’s peculiar career arc | 13:31 – 18:05 | | Greg Olsen interview begins | Olsen reflects on his NFL pay, negotiations, life in TV | 27:19 – 29:44 | | Fast reaction: Bengals/Hendrickson vs. Commanders/McLaurin | Olsen assesses high-profile contract disruptions | 29:59 – 31:01 | | Admitting front office draft mistakes | Colts and Anthony Richardson as a case study | 31:01 – 33:12 | | ‘Youth Inc.’ podcast discussion | Modern youth sports culture, show origin & guests | 34:06 – 35:29 | | Broadcasting learning curve | “Football is the easy part,” the art of TV | 35:29 – 39:51 | | Hall of Fame: Stafford v. Wilson v. Newton | Lively context vs. stats debate | 40:03 – 42:28 | | Most Interesting NFL Team Draft | Crew’s picks for the most compelling teams | 49:21 – 52:08 |

Tone & Style

Dan Patrick and his team mix sharp sports analysis with casual, self-effacing humor and plenty of inside jokes. The style is conversational, frequently veering into tangents, back-and-forth ribbing, and listener engagement. Greg Olsen’s segment stands out for its blend of candid industry reviews and the kind of meta-insight only a recent player-turned-broadcaster can offer.

Summary for New Listeners

This hour is a microcosm of Dan Patrick’s appeal: sports talk as freewheeling, intellect-meets-barstool, with ample focus on the business/game interplay. Whether it’s parsing Anthony Richardson’s fate in real time, poking holes in football Twitter rumors, or marveling at NBA payrolls, it’s smart radio that doesn’t take itself (or sports’ mythology) too seriously. Lead guest Greg Olsen elevates things with perspective on both athlete transition and the behind-the-scenes reality of TV sports.

For more, tune in next hour for MLB’s Mark Pryor, Ross Tucker, and continued NFL-centric debate.

End of Hour 2 Summary