Hour 2 – Arch Manning and Nick Saban in the NFL Together?, Greg Olsen

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show — Hour 2 (August 20, 2025)

Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show
Episode: Hour 2 – Arch Manning and Nick Saban in the NFL Together?, Greg Olsen
Host: Dan Patrick & Crew (Seton, Marvin, Paulie, Fritzy)
Main Guest: Greg Olsen (Fox Sports NFL Analyst, former NFL TE)

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Episode Overview

Hour 2 centers on a fast-paced and humorous sports roundtable with the Dan Patrick crew. Key topics span the shifting NFL quarterback landscape (especially Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones with the Colts), wild rumors about Arch Manning and Nick Saban's NFL future, the enduring value (or wasted payroll) of pro athletes like John Wall, and a deep-dive football conversation with Fox’s Greg Olsen. The crew debates players’ career worth, explores team-building choices, navigates sports business/economics, and flashes their trademark banter and wit.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Colts' Quarterback Conundrum

• Anthony Richardson’s uncertain future: Richardsen, still just 23 and with limited experience, is viewed as one of the NFL's biggest question marks. The crew debates his fit and future — noting he's played fewer than a full season of games in two years and is younger than many incoming rookies. With Daniel Jones now in the picture, Dan wonders:
  • “Richardson…it might be the beginning of fading into the Josh Rosen category, a talent we never fully saw or realized.” – Dan Patrick [06:36]
• Coaching instability’s role: Decisions about QBs often come down to front office and coaching stability (or lack thereof). Comparisons with the Giants, who drafted Jackson Dart (as per the bit), amplify the challenge coaches face in win-now or rebuild scenarios.
• Potential trade bait: Dan reads Dan Orlovsky’s suggestion that teams should try to acquire Richardson for a mid-round pick, mentioning Eagles, Rams, and Vikings as possible suitors.
• Developmental QB speculation: “I don't know if I want Anthony Richardson trying to emulate Lamar Jackson…” – Dan Patrick [08:55]

2. Arch Manning & Nick Saban: NFL Rumor Mill

• Arch Manning's future at Texas: Despite his grandfather Archie’s claim (since walked back) that Arch is staying at Texas another year, Arch insists nothing’s decided:
  • “I'm really just taking it day by day right now.” – paraphrased by Dan Patrick [10:47]
• Saban-to-NFL myth-making:
  • The show pokes fun at rumors of Nick Saban coming out of TV retirement to coach the Browns and draft Arch Manning—highlighting how improbable the logistics and incentives would be.
  • “There’s a lot of things that have to happen for him to go, ‘I’ll give up the TV gig…’” – Dan Patrick [11:54]
  • The rumor’s origins (Lane Kiffin, Colin Cowherd, Greg McElroy) are traced with tongue-in-cheek glee.

3. NBA Player Contracts & Value: The John Wall Example

• A career of two halves: Once a five-time All-Star and #1 pick, John Wall’s career ends with him getting paid $44M to not play for the Rockets.
  • “You go from being an all-star to being told…we have to pay you, but we don't want you to play.” – Dan Patrick [15:12]
• Salary game segment: The crew plays a guessing game on Wall’s career earnings, humorously riffing on NBA salary inflation (“celery, celery, celery…”). Wall made $286 million, with $200 million earned after his last All-Star season [17:29].
• NBA vs. NFL contract culture: Multiple examples (Ben Simmons, Isaiah Hartenstein) illustrate NBA deals’ scale and guaranteed aspect compared to the NFL, eliciting envy and awe.

4. NFL Contract Negotiations & Player Representation (Greg Olsen Interview)

• Olsen’s contract experience:
  • “My agent, Drew Rosenhaus…handled all negotiations. I was up to speed…but no, I never participated directly.” – Greg Olsen [27:36]
• On Jerry Jones negotiating directly with players: Olsen says it’s unusual and may cross CBA boundaries if an agent is officially registered, but notes a player can always opt to self-represent.
  • “This is why you pay the money—to keep the personal animosity out…these contracts get tough.” – Greg Olsen [28:41]
• Which holdout is more concerning, Trey Hendrickson or Terry McLaurin?
  • Olsen sees Hendrickson’s Bengals absence as more damaging due to its defensive impact in an AFC arms race [30:01].

5. Front Offices Owning Draft Mistakes

• Olsen praises the Colts (and GM Chris Ballard) for potentially making a swift, honest evaluation of Anthony Richardson, even if it means admitting a top-5 miss:
  • “The best organizations understand… ‘This was a miss’... If you continue to push it down the road and say ‘it’s gonna change,’... typically that blows up the entire organization.” – Greg Olsen [31:39]
• Dan adds this QB churn (like Darnold, Mayfield, Geno) is now more common, and sometimes a new environment is best for all.

6. Broadcasting: The Art vs. Science

• Olsen breaks down the learned skills of TV vs. instinctual football analysis (timing, dealing with producers in your ear, play clocks, collaborating with play-by-play partners).
  • “There’s no such thing as a good color analyst without a good play-by-play guy. They are the heroes…” – Greg Olsen [38:17]
  • Dan notes that broadcast-timing and talking in soundbites is a huge adjustment—"20 seconds in TV...feels way different than on the field." [37:07]

7. Hall of Fame ‘Feel’ Debates

• Rapid fire session, Dan asks who feels more Hall of Fame: Matthew Stafford or Russell Wilson?
  • Initially, Greg Olsen says recency bias favors Stafford due to the Rams' run. But after Dan removes names, both agree Wilson easily gets the nod if basing only on statistics/accolades [40:03-40:47].
• On Cam Newton:
  • “When you talk about changing the way the game is played…Cam was at the front end of a lot of that.” – Greg Olsen [42:03]

8. Most Interesting NFL Teams: Draft

A crew round-robin debate on who is the most interesting (not “best”) NFL team for 2025—criteria open-ended:

• Picks included:
  • Steelers (Aaron Rodgers' new home)
  • Raiders
  • Falcons (“Bijan Robinson, Drake London, Kyle Pitts…can Penix make it work?”)
  • Buccaneers (Baker Mayfield’s leap)
  • Commanders (an “obvious” wild card)
  • Broncos, Bengals, Vikings in round two

9. Greg Olsen’s Podcast ‘Youth Inc.’

• Olsen describes his show on sports parenting and athlete development, with guests like Tom Brady and Malcolm Gladwell, and a focus on modern issues in youth sports culture [34:06].

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On ousted stars cashing big checks:
  “Of [John Wall’s] $286 million…he made $200 million after he stopped being an all-star.” – Paulie [17:54]
• On Nick Saban-to-NFL gossip:
  “Colin said it was the worst kept secret in the south…but when it came out, I’m like, I had not heard that.” – Dan Patrick [11:54]
• On candid self-correction by NFL GMs:
  “If you continue to push it down the road…typically that blows up the entire organization…So I do give Ballard a little bit of credit.” – Greg Olsen [31:39]
• On the ‘science’ of broadcasting:
  “The football part is the easy part. Making that fit into a three-hour live broadcast…is an adjustment.” – Greg Olsen [37:07]
• On changing the quarterback archetype:
  “When you talk about changing the way the game is played…there’s very few, if any, playing the way Cam Newton did. Now, the game is played on the move.” – Greg Olsen [41:39]

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

| Segment | Description | Timestamp | |---|---|---| | Colts QB carousel & Anthony Richardson | Dan, Paulie, and crew dissect the Colts’ crossroads | 05:02 – 10:35 | | Arch Manning & Saban rumor mill | Manning rumors, Saban’s TV future, media misinformation | 10:35 – 13:19 | | John Wall career & NBA salary game | NBA contract culture, Wall’s peculiar career arc | 13:31 – 18:05 | | Greg Olsen interview begins | Olsen reflects on his NFL pay, negotiations, life in TV | 27:19 – 29:44 | | Fast reaction: Bengals/Hendrickson vs. Commanders/McLaurin | Olsen assesses high-profile contract disruptions | 29:59 – 31:01 | | Admitting front office draft mistakes | Colts and Anthony Richardson as a case study | 31:01 – 33:12 | | ‘Youth Inc.’ podcast discussion | Modern youth sports culture, show origin & guests | 34:06 – 35:29 | | Broadcasting learning curve | “Football is the easy part,” the art of TV | 35:29 – 39:51 | | Hall of Fame: Stafford v. Wilson v. Newton | Lively context vs. stats debate | 40:03 – 42:28 | | Most Interesting NFL Team Draft | Crew’s picks for the most compelling teams | 49:21 – 52:08 |

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Tone & Style

Dan Patrick and his team mix sharp sports analysis with casual, self-effacing humor and plenty of inside jokes. The style is conversational, frequently veering into tangents, back-and-forth ribbing, and listener engagement. Greg Olsen’s segment stands out for its blend of candid industry reviews and the kind of meta-insight only a recent player-turned-broadcaster can offer.

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Summary for New Listeners

This hour is a microcosm of Dan Patrick’s appeal: sports talk as freewheeling, intellect-meets-barstool, with ample focus on the business/game interplay. Whether it’s parsing Anthony Richardson’s fate in real time, poking holes in football Twitter rumors, or marveling at NBA payrolls, it’s smart radio that doesn’t take itself (or sports’ mythology) too seriously. Lead guest Greg Olsen elevates things with perspective on both athlete transition and the behind-the-scenes reality of TV sports.

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For more, tune in next hour for MLB’s Mark Pryor, Ross Tucker, and continued NFL-centric debate.

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End of Hour 2 Summary

Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio, hour two on this. Okay. We'll talk some football with Greg Olson, the Fox analyst. He'll join us coming up in a little bit. Also, former all star pitcher. Now the Dodgers pitching coach, Mark Pryor will stop by as will Ross Tucker of Westwood1 and CBS. Glad to have you on board. Gang's all here. Morale is high. Fritz, he's here. The minister of humor, Seton Marv, Paulie, yours truly, and of course, Paulie's shirt. If you're watching on Peacock, you might have an opinion. I likened it to Urkel when he wore those suspenders. It looks like Paulie has suspenders on. And we asked this great audience to maybe give us a comment on Paulie's shirt. One response. It reminds me of the tennis sweaters from the 1920s. I like it. Here's another one. I have the same shirt. I love it. I get a ton of compliments from the ladies. And also this one, Paul's shirt looks like something Tony Soprano wearing would have worn.

[Paulie]

Oh, less of a compliment.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah.

[Paulie]

I don't know. That one's a compliment. The tennis sweater thing I like.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. I think basically it's gone over well in the room. I'm probably with Seaton. Seaton said it's very Paulie. Like, Todd liked it, which should bother Paulie. And Marvin, you. You're all in on this, but I'm.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Really hoping he has something to do after this. Oh, yeah, like maybe a family photo at Sears or something like that.

[Dan Patrick]

That's definitely. Paul's got a meeting outfit for sure. 100. Yes. Do you have something going on after the show?

[Paulie]

Yes, and I was dressed accordingly.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yes.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Todd, I think it's the West Hartford Open.

[Dan Patrick]

I think they're in town.

[Ryan Seacrest]

They got the, they got the doubles matches. You didn't like that one?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, tennis. No, no, I'm not piling on. I just, I, I wasn't quite sure what.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Looks very Tennessee. That was a point I was trying to make. I missed the Mark, obviously.

[Dan Patrick]

But I.

[Paulie]

Was talking about some kind of golf event, I guess.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm assuming that's what you thought.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I wasn't quite sure if it was tennis or golf, but. All right. Welcome to the program already in progress. We'll have a new poll question for hour two. Your phone calls, 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP show spent a little bit of time talking about the Colts situation at quarterback. Anthony Richardson is once again on the sidelines. Daniel Jones come on down. And Richardson is still one of the league's bigger question marks. He's in two years played less than a full season worth of games. He's younger than Caleb Williams. He's younger than Shador Sanders, younger than Bo Nix and Michael Penix Jr. III. So Jones comes in and he's had peaks and valleys and got out of New York. And he gets a second chance like Baker Mayfield's head and Geno Smith. Sam Darnold Richardson. It might be the beginning of fading into the Josh Rosen category, a talent we never fully saw or realized. And the offense belongs to Daniel Jones. And just like Anthony Richardson's career, the story where it goes from here is really anybody's guess. But a lot of these decisions are made on the stability or lack of stability with the coaching staff. Just like the Giants with Russell Wilson and just like the Colts with what's going on with Jackson Dart, or I should say with Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, you got Jackson Dart who was drafted in the first round by the Giants. Can you go with him knowing if you start out one and eight and they could easily start out one in eight, those coaches, the coach and GM might not last. All right, poll question. Seaton for hour two is going to be what? Well, let me update you here. We got one from Marvin. Pick one to make the Pro bowl this season. Daniel Jones. Justin Fields, Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson. Dang, man, this is a crazy one. There's a three way tie for second I think right now. Justin Fields running away with it. Wow. To make the Pro bowl this year. That's a wild one. Yeah, I picked Daniel Jones. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, The Colts were 8 and 9 last year and they have a division that's not hard to steal a playoff spot from.

[Dan Patrick]

So you're saying maybe nine and eight?

[Paulie]

Yeah, I'm just the Daniel Jones ramp up. Is not that as hard as if he was in other divisions?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I feel better about their playoff chances with Daniel Jones, but once again, where are you Going with your franchise unless you admit now we made a mistake. I saw where Dan Orlovsky, he posted this on potential landing spots, teams that should offer the Colts a mid round pick for Anthony Richardson. This is according to Dan Orlovsky of the Mothership Eagles. Eagles have Tanner McKee. Now he's a sixth round pick out of Stanford and he's actually performed pretty well in the preseason. You got the Rams, the Rams, you have Jimmy Garoppolo and you have Stetson Bennett Jr. The fourth, and then you have the Vikings. Sam Howell is the backup to J.J. mcCarthy. Richardson's only 23. He has 11 touchdown passes, 13 interceptions in 15 career games. But according to Orlovsky, maybe a mid round draft pick could get you Anthony Richardson.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, how about a team like the Ravens, they have a run and pass quarterback already who's great, but you put him behind Lamar Jackson, learn from Lamar Jackson and use him in maybe a Wildcat situation or something else. They have Cooper Rush and someone named Devin Leary. They're not exactly set at the backup position and you can make them a development project.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if I want Anthony Richardson trying to emulate Lamar Jackson because Lamar Jackson, you know, he is a very underrated passer and maybe people are finally realizing it might not look like Tom Brady, but he is a very good passer. He's a good passer. Anthony Richardson, he is not a good passer. Footwork's terrible, but these things, I, I feel like you can teach these things, but it's the willingness to learn. And then can you actually command an offense? You know, there with John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson? Okay, maybe you would get a couple of reps in a blowout game, but he needs, I feel like we got to play him to find out if he can play. And maybe that's what the Colts have already found out. You know, maybe you put him in a developmental league and find out if he can play, but on this stage he hasn't been able to play. The other quarterbacking situation got a little headlines. Was Arch Manning, not to be confused with Archie Manning, his grandfather and grandfather, who Arch is named after, was talking about how it's almost a foregone conclusion that Arch will go back to Texas after this season. And then architecture said, well, you know, I haven't really played. And do we have a little bit of that? Is there any, any comment from. I think it was pretty quick of Archie saying, oh, you know, kind of misspoke. They walked it back a little bit. But Arch Was saying, you know, I haven't even played yet and you know, nothing's decided. Yeah, Paul.

[Paulie]

Yeah, the Arch audio is all garbled, but the Arch Manning said, I don't know where he got that from, referring to his grandfather. He texted me to apologize about all that. I'm really just taking it day by day right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, well, I do think he'll play two years at Texas. I think it'll be this year, next year. Did you see where Nick Saban, I think he was on with Greg McElroy, his former quarterback. And McElroy is the first one, I think who came out and said, hey, I'm here and Saban coming back. And then Lane Kiffin said something Colin Cowherd had it that Saban was going to go to the Browns and they were going to draft Arch Manning. Which sounds great in theory, but it not in reality because you'd have to have the number one pick. And what happens if Saban, you know, hey, I'll take the job but Arch is going to go back to Texas. And I think that Saban kind of said to McElroy made fun of the fact that he had him, you know, going to coach in the NFL again. And as only Saban can chide you. But yeah, I thought that that was interesting and look it well, Colin said it was the worst kept secret in the south. But you know, when it came out I'm like, I had not heard that. And there's probably a reason because it doesn't make sense that yeah, if the Browns get Arch Manning and Nick Saban wants to come out of retirement at age 74, but there's a lot of things that have to happen for him to go, I don't give up the TV gig. You, you've proven you're one of the great coaches of all time. You, you're making great money, there's no stress and you get long off season, you'd be crazy to go back. And you know, I'm gonna go back to Cleveland, I'll make it right. He was an assistant coach with Belichick. But I like that saban gave Greg McElroy a little grief there because maybe it was McElroy who then told Lane Kiffin who was an assistant coach at Alabama and then all of a sudden it started to get out more nationally. But so poll question, do we have it for hour two? Seaton. Yeah, we got one right now that we're working on. More interesting choice, Dylan's shoes or Paul's shirt. We have a little bit of a style off happening today. Dylan, the graphics guy in the back, is wearing what I've been describing as Nickelodeon Yeezys. I'm not really sure exactly what those are all about, but they're very typically Dylan. Okay. Much like Paul's shirt is typically Paul. It's. They're both perfect examples of their personal fashion. Yeah, Paul.

[Paulie]

Yeah. My style could be summarized maybe like a yacht rock type thing. And Dylan's would be like, he looks like he could be related to John Daly with his outfits.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

I think that's fair.

[Dan Patrick]

One other topic here, and this won't get headlines, but it does with us. John Wall's career is over. And this is one of those where you go, he was. He was kind of a Internet sensation. There was. There was talk about John Wall before he got to Kentucky, and he was the number one overall pick. In fact, when he was going to his press conference that morning, he was with his mom and he called into the show and here we are. How many years later and his career is over. Five time all star. He was an all defense selection. He won a slam dunk contest. He was very, very good at Kentucky, one of the fastest players in the league. But he went from being really good to being told, we don't want you to play, but we're still going to pay you. The Rockets, I think, paid him $42 million to not play. I can't remember an NBA career where you had somebody who was that good. Now, granted, he put up numbers with Washington, but still, it might have been five consecutive all star appearances. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

Yeah, that's right. From age 23 to 27, five all star appearances. He had seasons with 23 and 11. He was, you know, second league and assists. One year he was second for rookie of the year. He had a very nice run. His. It's tough to quantify his career because you can't say bust, but it didn't live up to the hype. Marvin and I were talking about it. He was early social media guy, where the social media. And he was on it before he even got to Kentucky.

[Dan Patrick]

But you go from being an all star to being told that you're on the roster or we're going to pay you, we have to pay you, but we don't want you to play. Ikeva's a healthy scratch. Yes.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Marvin, 44. We. And we've always said this too. We always mentioned John Wall. Like, look, he's making $44 million to not play.

[Dan Patrick]

That's how we talked about John Wall.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Post His Washington days.

[Dan Patrick]

Now we do career salary. Can we play the career salary game with John Wall for years? He is. He's up there. Salary, salary, salary.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Salary.

[Dan Patrick]

Celery, celery, celery, celery, celery, celery, cele. Okay. Any excuse to play that career salary game. John Wall.

[Paulie]

John Wall was in the league for 11 years. He played for nine years, not including his Kentucky salary.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow. Too soon.

[Paulie]

They're proud of that down there. They don't care.

[Dan Patrick]

$9.5 billion, I bet. Okay.

[Paulie]

Closest to the hole. John Wall as A rookie made 5.1 million in 20, 21, 22. The Rockets paid him 44 million to not play basketball whilst healthy. Total salary with John Wall.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin, you start.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm gonna say 275.

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm going 276.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd, I got a box. Marvin, now 275 is right. Right there.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I.

[Dan Patrick]

275 and $1. But I'll go 276. All right, Todd.

[Ryan Seacrest]

244.7.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna go 277. That's.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know what? You know what?

[Paulie]

Are you throwing a flag?

[Dan Patrick]

Let me. Hold on. Let me pull it out of my pant leg. Okay. Through the BS flag.

[Paulie]

That's why you want to go last. $286 million for John Wall.

[Dan Patrick]

That's not bad. That's not bad. Good living, those contracts. That's why when I hear about, you know, other sports with contracts in the NBA, everybody's making, you know, 30, $40 million a year, it feels like. And they all get paid. They're all guaranteed. Yes, Paul.

[Paulie]

Of his $286 million that John Wall earned, he made 200 million out of it after he stopped being an all star.

[Dan Patrick]

Who is his agent? Jarell Rivas.

[Paulie]

Like he's on a boat somewhere.

[Dan Patrick]

Kirk Cousins. Mission accomplished right there. That is mission accomplished. I'm an all Star now.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't know, Supermax or whatever.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep. Sign me up. Sign me up. Zombie up. Okay. All right. So Mark Pryor, the Dodger pitching coach, will join us next hour. Ross Tucker will stop by as well. But up next, we'll talk some football with Greg Olson from Fox. We're back after this Dan Patrick show.

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[Dan Patrick]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Danielle Fishel]

What do you say, Buzz?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Another beer.

[Dan Patrick]

And triumph over addiction.

[Danielle Fishel]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[Dan Patrick]

Good luck to you and become a true hero. Buzz and I will proceed into the lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.

[Dan Patrick]

Starring me, John Lithgow.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Can you put it through Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.

[Dan Patrick]

You get your podcasts. Columbia.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hey, sis. What if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro tell you how to manage your money again? Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part. When you pay down those credit cards, if you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem a year from now when you do feel like you are blank. Leading from these high interest rates, I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan, starting with your local credit union. Shopping around online looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets, I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt. And it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like, stick your head in the sand. It's not nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to Go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment free money advice, listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

We'll talk to Greg Olson From Fox, their NFL analyst, three time Pro Bowler. He'll stop by here in a moment. 877-3-DP-SHOP Email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP SHOW we just looked and the Rockets paid John Wall, what was it, close to $200 million to play 40 games.

[Paulie]

John Wall was paid $126 million over the course of four seasons to play 40 basketball games.

[Dan Patrick]

Dang.

[Paulie]

It's actually worse than the Ben Simmons deal. Ben Simmons with Brooklyn?

[Dan Patrick]

His.

[Paulie]

The Ben Simmons era with Brooklyn. 69 games played, $123 million.

[Dan Patrick]

Dang. Dang. Those guys get paid in the NBA. They do. They get paid. Yeah. To not play. That's amazing. Yes. Marvin.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Trey Hendrickson is looking for Isaiah Hartenstein numbers.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

For a guy to set screens and grab eight rebounds a game. Same amount of money.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep. Yeah. Just different players association TV deals, all those, you know. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, here's a different question. Would you rather make $40 million a season to not play or $35 million a season you get to play?

[Dan Patrick]

Would I rather be John Wall in Houston or T.J. watt in Pittsburgh?

[Paulie]

Yeah, one's just sitting, watching basketball, the other actively participating, but 5 million less.

[Dan Patrick]

I'd still rather be T.J. watt. You know, I gotta play. Yeah, you want to play. I mean, you're still making great money. I don't think John Wall was like, I don't know, maybe John Wall might have been like, I don't know. I don't really feel like playing. I'm just gonna sit back and cash all these checks. But I don't think so. I think he wanted. He didn't even have to say that. They told him, hey, why don't you just sit back and relax, John, we owe you this money. Like, how bad do you have to be at that point in your career where they don't want you to even be on the roster? Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

The season before the sit out season, no injury listed, was 21, 22 in 20 and 21. John Wall averaged 21 points and seven assists a game as their starting point guard. He was good. Still good.

[Dan Patrick]

But what happened?

[Paulie]

They went a different direction with, like, younger players and I think he was the odd man out, and they decided just to sit him a healthy scratch.

[Dan Patrick]

But nobody wanted a guy who could put up 20 and 10 now because it was.

[Paulie]

He was 31 years old making $44 million.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, they're all making that kind of crazy money, aren't they? What's Isaiah Hartenstein of OKC making? Is he making. Does he make more than T.J. watt? Does he probably does that old question. Yeah, Isaiah Hartenstein.

[Paulie]

I got Isaiah Hartenstein. He just signed a new deal, right? I think, yeah, he's going to make 28. 5 next year.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. So he's kind of. He's making more than Trey Hendrickson is. You know, these contracts are crazy. Crazy in basketball. Greg Olson, he's a Fox analyst, three time Pro Bowler joining us on the program. What was your, your best salary in the NFL?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I want to say towards the end of my career, I probably was making 7 million. And now the best tight ends in the league are making 16.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you ever participate in negotiations, be in the room when they're discussing your contract? No, no.

[Ryan Seacrest]

My, my agent, Drew Rosenhaus, I had him since I came out of Miami. He handled all negotiations. I mean, I was up to speed. He would call me and debrief me in pretty good detail along the, you know, along what was said and what the conversations in the back and forth. But no, I never participated directly. I tried to stay out of that and just let him handle kind of being the go between between myself and the organization.

[Dan Patrick]

Why is Jerry Jones allowed to negotiate with Micah Parsons individually when I think the CBA says your agent has to be in there to, you know, negotiate?

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's a great question. And I thought all along that was a very interesting part of the conversation. I know you guys now are bringing it up and discussing it. I don't, I don't know the exact reasons, I don't know the exact legalities of what's in the CBA by writing, but my understanding was always players can represent themselves. There's multiple players throughout the league for a long time that have negotiated their own contracts because they don't have a registered contract agent on file with the NFLPA or, you know, all that. So in that regard, you would work directly with the general manager of the front office to negotiate on your own behalf. But my understanding was if you had representation and that was filed with the, with the PA and all of that, that they should be the go between. So I'm not sure the exact specifics, but I think it's a great question. I just think it adds to what we're seeing now. It leads to this Ex this is why players have agents and I know 3% is kicked around and that that's being now negotiated to a lower number for a lot of young players. And I get it. But this is why you pay the money to keep the personal animosity out of the way between you. These contracts get tough. Whether, whether you're Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Micah Parsons or a guy further down the roster, the team is going to use every bit of leverage they have. They're going to tell your agent or in this case yourself reasons why you shouldn't make what you want and then you're going to try to counter that and it's going to get testy, it's going to inevitable nature of negotiations. And that's why having that buffer in between keeps things from getting personal like we're seeing here in Dallas.

[Dan Patrick]

More concerning, let's take Micah Parsons out of the equation because I do think that deal will get done. The Trey Hendrickson with the Bengals or Terry McLaurin? Which one is more damaging to that team's potential success this season?

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's a great question. I would say Hendrickson up in Cincinnati, just because we know how much conversation has surrounded the Bengals defense. They fire the D.C. they hire Al golden, you know, the longtime college D.C. from Penn State who was most recently at Penn State, I mean, at Notre Dame. I guess my question is, can that defense be. They weren't very good to begin with last year and Joe Burrow had an unbelievable season and they still fell short of expectations with the whole emphasis on the off season for them getting back into the likes of the Bills and the Ravens and, and the Chiefs to get themselves back in the AFC to that echelon with Joe Burrow. They can't do it without the defense getting better. And now you take away the sack leader, you take away your best defensive player. Can you assume that you're going to be back in super bowl contention to complement one of the best offenses in football? So I would say for them this is a significant storyline and if they can't figure it out what was already a weakness, now you take away your best player, you have to assume it's even worse.

[Dan Patrick]

Help me understand why Anthony Richardson would be the bust and not the Colts general manager Chris Ballard. Because Anthony Richardson didn't take himself at 4 overall. The Colts did. They took a project that high who wasn't. He had glimpses in college. But you start him week one like I'm, I'm just trying to under and the kid is 23 years of age and it feels like the NFL will move on from him.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. And again, this is not an indictment of Anthony Richardson. I don't. I don't know the kid that well. I don't know the ins and outs behind the scenes there. But I will say this in credit to Chris Ballard. I think the best guys in the NFL, whether it's coaches, front office, personnel, general managers, when you know you've made a mistake, I think the teams that continue to double down, double down and prolong this experiment end up finding themselves out of work. I think the best organizations understand, you know what, this was a miss. And now this is a big one. Right. You take a top five quarterback, it sets your franchise back multiple years. But if you continue to push it down the road and said it's going to change, it's going to change. And I can't admit failure. I can't admit that I was wrong. Typically that blows up the entire organization. And there's another general manager there. So I do give him a little bit credit. It's behind the scenes, him and Shane Steichen are saying, you know what we missed, he's not the guy. Daniel Jones gives us a better chance to win. I almost think that's the more difficult decision and one that they, if it was even close, Anthony Richardson, just because of his draft pedigree, would be the week one starter. So I think we see this all the time in free agency. The Eagles just won the super bowl and huffed their big free agent signing from the Jets. They paid a bazillion dollars. He didn't play down the stretch, and guess what? This year they shipped him off for pennies on the dollar to another organization. And Howie Roseman said, you know what, I missed on that one, but we're going to move on. So it's different when it's the quarterback. But the good organizations admit defeat. They admit when they were wrong, and you got to move on.

[Dan Patrick]

I think that's really a great point, and I had not thought of that. And maybe that's what the Colts are doing. That. Yes. We saw two years and he's not our guy. Now maybe you can trade him to somebody and maybe he could. We're, you know, we're seeing this cycle now far more than we used to. Two years, maybe three years didn't work out. Now you go, you're gonna be a backup. And it's like almost the Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Geno Smith, you know, we'll. We'll bring you back around. Maybe It's a better coaching staff, maybe it's a better team, and maybe Anthony Richardson still has a future. We're talking to Greg Olson, Fox NFL analyst, and you can tune in to Youth Inc. And Greg has a weekly podcast. He had Tom Brady on, Malcolm Gladwell on. And you're talking about sports and parenting and the next generation of athletes. How'd you come up with this idea?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, so it's actually been a really, a really fun project for us. You know, I'm a dad of three. I'm the son of a high school football coach from New Jersey, legendary coach out of the northeast, coached over 40 years, coached me and my brother. So I grew up in this world. Like, when I was a young kid, the highlight of our life was playing varsity football one day for my dad. Fortunately, I was able to go on and make a career out of it. But now, as a father, raising three young kids in a very different youth sports culture than any of us remember and any of us really grew up in. And there was a lot of things that we were doing wrong, a lot of things that I didn't have a great idea of what the right path forward was for my sons and my daughters. And we said, you know what? There's a lot of really interesting people out there that have great perspectives and great lessons to be shared, and let's go find those people. So we've had a lot of really cool conversations. Our latest season that we, that we just dropped, you know, you mentioned Tom Brady. We had Malcolm Gladwell this year, this week, and next week, we'll have Ryan Day coming off the national champions, getting ready for that big Texas game, and CJ Stroud and just some really fun and really insightful people that have really good experiences that can be great for parents, coaches, young athletes, people dealing with different adversities. We think it can really help a lot of people. And along the way, as the host, quote, unquote, I'm learning more than anyone and trying to implement a lot of these values and lessons into my own youth coaching and also into just my parenting.

[Dan Patrick]

It's Youth Inc. And it's a weekly podcast. I. I was curious about this when we were going to have you on of how much of your job now as a broadcaster for Fox is your football knowledge and how much of it is the ability to understand tv.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, I, I think it's a great question because I joke with my, with my producer and director all the time. Like, the football part I always felt pretty good about, you know, the football part I Felt like I always understood and I saw and I really enjoyed talking the game and formulating different storylines to present to the viewer and letting them kind of unravel in real time during the broadcast. The TV part is the part I think all of us have to learn, right? You have to learn how to go in and out of commercial breaks. You have to learn how to talk to the truck. You know, I always joke like, still to this point day, when I want it behind the defense, you know, the fancy TV people call it, you know, I want the pit. You know, I want pit framing. I'm like, I just want behind the defense, whatever that is called. Give me that. So I'm still learning some of the nuance, the terminology, where all the cameras are. And I've gotten a lot better now going into my fifth year. But it's, it's very interesting. The football part, I feel like that's, that's the easy part. Making that fit into a three hour live broadcast. Talk in segments, talking sound bites, not talking over your play by play commercial breaks, ad reads. Fortunately, I've had great partners. I got Joe Davis now, who's incredible, Kevin Burkhart before that. They handle all the tv and I tell them I'll just do the football part. So it's, I've been lucky in that regard.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you're on a play clock too, though, when you think about it, that you might have 12 seconds to describe something and then you got to turn it over to your play by play guy so he can do his job. And this is where Jim Nance is unbelievable, because Tony Romo, Tony will kind of color outside the line sometime. And all of a sudden, you know, Jim's got a grab it at the last second and, you know, go third and eight, you know, so I understand the timing part of it, but so many guys that came through espn, these are legendary coaches and players. And I said, you got to understand tv. And even Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungy on football night in America. I said, you guys are rookies, you know nothing about tv, listen to me and you'll do fine. You know football. But that's only part of the equation. They look at you go, you just talk. I go, no, if I, if somebody in your ear goes, hey, you got 20 seconds. Well, you don't know what 20 seconds is in real time playing a game. You do 20 seconds in TV, you're like, I don't know, how long, how long am I going? You went 42 seconds. You're like, I did?

[Ryan Seacrest]

No. And you're spot on and the voice in your ear is an adjustment early on in my career. The natural, the natural instinct of anybody is when someone says something to you while you're talking, you stop and you want to listen. Well, obviously you sound silly on live television if you do that. To your point about play by play guys, there's no such thing as a good color analyst without a good play by play guy. They are the heroes of all of this. They are the professionals, quote, unquote. Like they keep this train on the tracks running and give you the space and the breath and the, and the leads to then talk about the things that they really know you're interested in or you feel good about and you want to take the broadcast. So it is more of a dance. It is a rhythm. It's ever changing. Every game has a different cadence. There's games that have a million penalties and a million commercial breaks and a million injuries. Those get super choppy. And then there's the dream games, which every play is a long, fluid drive. There's multiple first downs in every possession. You can really let some of these storylines unravel. You don't feel like you have to force it in because it's a three and out punt commercial. So again, it's, it's a that the part of the, the part of the experience that I've enjoyed the most is the unpredictability of it where you don't. You have a basic idea of the matchup, you have a basic idea of the flow of the game. But then once it's kicked off, no different than a player, nobody can sit there and say, I know exactly how this game's going to go and I'm going to talk about X, Y and Z in that order. Chances are that's going to be thrown upside down and then you have to adjust on the fly and make it sound fun and interesting.

[Dan Patrick]

I had a couple of rapid fire questions before we let you go. Who feels more hall of Fame? Who feels more hall of Famey Matthew Stafford or Russell Wilson?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow, that's a great question. Kind of interesting. Career arcs, right? Like Russell started out so hot and now down the stretch trying to find his way. Stafford obviously started in a perennially terrible organ team, got them a little bit better and then has had his success later. Oh man. I think creatures of the moment Stafford, it feels like because just because the last memories we have of his or his teams have been more relevant as of recent Russ. For as amazing as Russ has been, a lot of, you know, his Success can't. That's a really good question. But I think if you put a gun in my head, just recency bias would be Stafford, but I would probably make the argument that they both are deserving.

[Dan Patrick]

If I take the names off the resumes, it's a no brainer. It's Russell Wilson.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Interesting because that's the point. Like, yeah, the Pro Bowls. I think it's recency bias, which was kind of my initial instinct with Stafford. In my mind, there's no question that Russell Wilson is a Hall of Famer. I think everyone's going to try to use the last couple years of kind of bouncing, finding a home, but they forget just how dominant he was. I know Seattle was incredible. I know the defense, but that, that shouldn't be taken away. In my mind. Russell's a Hall of Famer. The way you pose the question you posed was such a good one. I think the recency success of the Rams, the Super bowl and Stafford post Detroit, I could see that being the argument.

[Dan Patrick]

Is Cam Newton a Hall of Famer?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, in my mind he is. And I think you have to look past I don't know where, I have no idea where he stands in total yards passing and total touchdowns. I don't know statistically, which I know is a big part of that process. When you talk about changing the way the game is played, quarterbacks running the ball on short yardage, quarterbacks playing, you know, down near the goal line, the ability to still be a 4,000 yard passer from the pocket. When he came into the league, there was very few if any guys playing the quarterback position the way he played it. And now there's almost no pocket passers left or there's, you know, burrow, there's a couple. But the game is played on the move. The game is played athletically, it both in and out of the pocket. And Cam was at the front end.

[Dan Patrick]

Of a lot of that Great stuff. Great to talk to you. Hope you have a great season coming up. We'll check in with you and the podcast. It's a weekly podcast. It's entitled Youth Inc. With Greg Olson. Next guest will be Ryan Day. CJ Stroud is also on the guest list and he's already had podcast tape with Tom Brady and the author Malcolm Gladwell. Thanks again, Greg. Great spending time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Thanks, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

We'll take a break. When we come back, the most interesting NFL team. That's next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live this Labor.

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

Chris in Syracuse. Hi Chris. What's on your mind?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, thanks, Dan. Hey, in the first hour you were mentioning about when the Reds and Dodgers are in the same division in the NL west and remember in the 70s, Dan, they were both so good that there were years when one of them wouldn't win 9,900 games and they wouldn't even make the playoffs. And yesterday you were mentioning about Jerry Jones dropping the MICA contract, getting it done at the most opportune time for publicity. I wonder if he'll do the same thing that he did with Dak on the eve or the day of the season opener. He'll drop the news, which this year it's Philadelphia, Dallas on NBC at night. He'll probably drop it in the afternoon. And lastly, off a play of the day, Yankees hit nine home runs. The last time they did that was sometime in April. And that game was the catalyst to all this torpedo bat talk for three, four days. And then it was gone. Now we're pushing late August and we haven't even heard about it.

[Dan Patrick]

I know, I know. It was. It was changing the sport. It's ruining baseball. Torpedo bats. And then all of a sudden they disappeared. Jerry is not going to wait until that day of when the Cowboys play the Eagles because you need Michael Parsons in camp. Dak Prescott was in camp. They were just going to get a new deal done. And Jerry said, we'll get a new deal done. This is different. Micah Parsons, he's not practicing. And you can't just say, hey, your deal is done. Now suit up and go play against the Eagles tonight. All right, Most interesting team in the NFL, whatever your criteria is, doesn't have to be the most exciting, doesn't have to be the best. It could be a bad team. Most interesting team in the NFL, Todd.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I find the whole division very interesting.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm going with Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm extremely interested to see what's going to happen. Okay. All right, once again, it's your criteria. Your. Your blueprint for interesting. Seaton. Most interesting team in the NFL is. Well, I was gonna say the Pittsburgh Steelers as well, but I'll change that up to. It's kind of a toss up between two teams. I'll go with the Las Vegas Raiders. I think they're actually a really interesting team this year. All right, Marvin.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The Atlanta Falcons. Michael Penix. All those weapons.

[Dan Patrick]

Bijan Drake, London, Kyle Pitts.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm interested to see what they do.

[Dan Patrick]

Was it a local Atlanta or Savannah TV station that had Michael Pennix and they. They had the font underneath and they didn't spell Pennix. They put an S in there.

[Paulie]

Autocorrect.

[Dan Patrick]

And. Yeah. So you could. How does that happen? How did. How does that happen, Paulie? The most interesting team in the NFL is.

[Paulie]

I love all three picks. I love the Falcons pick. Penix always raises up every team he's on. I'm going with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 10 and 7. They outscored their opponents by 117 points last year. Baker Mayfield threw for 41 touchdowns. Sixteen picks, 41 touchdowns. It feels like they're that close. If one of the heavyweights in the NFC can slip up.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Seaton, did no one say the commanders?

[Dan Patrick]

No one did because they're. They're definitely. They would be my other team. That is absolutely the most interesting. Are we doing round two of the most interesting Snake draft?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay, Todd, Bo Nicks and the Denver.

[Dan Patrick]

Broncos, Are they gonna live up to the hype?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Sorry?

[Dan Patrick]

Are they gonna live up to.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Everyone's on the Bronco bandwagon. Let's see what they do.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Marvin.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The Cincinnati Bengals.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep. That's my pick as well. Because even if Trey Hendrickson comes back and plays, how much of an impact you're going to be leading with your offense? Joe Burrows put on a pedestal and he's going to have to be even better than what he's been. And he was great last part of the season. You know, they were. Talk about MVP conversation for Joe.

[Paulie]

All right, Paulie, with my final pick of the draft, I'm going with the Minnesota Vikings 14, 3 last year. And they replaced their quarterback with a guy who hasn't taken a pro snap yet. That is a good but dicey situation.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, let's see. Dane in Texas. Hey, Dane, what's on your mind? Hey, good morning, Dan.

[Ryan Seacrest]

How are you doing?

[Dan Patrick]

Good, sir.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'd just like to thank you for suggesting, I guess you had one of the ways brothers or both of them talking about America's team. Holy cow.

[Dan Patrick]

It was amazing, Dan.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know, I get the best way.

[Paulie]

To sum it up. It was like Quentin Tarantino meets Tennessee Williams.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know, the. The truth is stranger than fiction.

[Dan Patrick]

It was brilliant. All right, well, thank you, Dave. Yeah, I saw the first episode. Now, I'm not learning a lot, but, you know, maybe it's not fair for me to say that in my position because I've heard a lot of this, most of this stuff, in fact. We've had some of the Cowboys on telling some of these stories, but it's. If you're a Cowboy fan, you'll love it. All right, we'll take a break. Final hour coming up, Dodger pitching coach Mark Pryor and Ross Tucker, our good buddy as well. Hope you'll stay with us, Seaton, Paulie, Mar, Fritzi, and yours truly. We're back after this.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

Learn [e-mail] hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Now through August 26th, it's back to Deals Time, where you can enjoy storewide deals and earn four times points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Lindor, Oreo, Lays, Celsius, Cottonelle and Snapple. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pick up or delivery subject to availability restrictions apply. Visit Albertsons or Safeway.com for more details. Why are TSA rules so confusing? You got a hoodie on. Take it all. I'm Manny. I'm Noah, this is Devin and we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? I can't expect what to do now if the rule was the same, go off on me, I deserve it, you know. Lock him up. Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

No Such Thing. Hello, I'm John Lithgow. We choose to go to the moon.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast, One Small Step for Man about Buzz Aldrin, one of the.

[Dan Patrick]

True pioneers of space.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You're a great pilot, Buzz.

[Dan Patrick]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't. Buzz, starring me, John Lithgow on the.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Get fired up y'.

[Dan Patrick]

All.

[Danielle Fishel]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe, to the show, and we had a blast. Take a listen. Sue and I were like, riding the lime bikes the other day, and we're like, whee.

[Dan Patrick]

People ride bikes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Because we got more incredible guests like Megan in store, plus news of the day and more. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. This is an iHeart podcast.