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Show on Fox Sports Radio, Hour two on this Wednesday. It's a meat Wednesday. We're off tomorrow and Friday. Dylan, the resident chef has beef Wellington, creamed spinach, garlic and sage whip mashed potatoes. Who has it better than we do? Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for allowing us into your homes and radio affiliates around the country, including iHeartradio. Fox Sports Radio Poll question from hour one. And what are we going to go with an hour two of the program? Seaton, if you were Damian Lillard, would you consider retiring right now? Last I checked those poll results, it was an overwhelming no. Yeah, I'm getting paid $100 million to not play for the bucks. I have to rehab. By the time I'm ready to play, I'll be 36. That's not old. That's. I mean, Durant's doing it. Why can't Dame Lillard? Now, granted, Durant's seven feet tall, so you know, he can still get his shot off. By the way, LeBron James had Kevin Durant on his podcast and he talked about Kevin Durant every time he takes a shot.

Jermaine O'Neal (4:23)

There's a few guys in our league that you believe every time they shoot, the ball is going. And KD's one of those guys. That's a lot of pressure, boy.

Dan Patrick (4:33)

No, it is.

Bridget Todd (4:34)

It is.

Jermaine O'Neal (4:34)

It is.

Dan Patrick (4:36)

Listen, like, you shoot the ball when Steph shoot the ball.

Jermaine O'Neal (4:39)

Steph, get a look. You just, you don't think it's gonna, you don't think he's gonna miss.

Dan Patrick (4:44)

Trying to think who else would be on that list. I agree. Katie and Steph, when they shoot, I think it's going in. Is there somebody where you go. He's right. In that category where it's weird when they miss. Yes, yes. Paul Peak, Ray Allen, when he was.

Bridget Todd (4:58)

Spotted up at the End of his career.

Dan Patrick (5:00)

Yeah, but I mean now. Oh, I'm sorry. Marvin.

Jermaine O'Neal (5:02)

Still Klay Thompson, he's wide open. Cash.

Dan Patrick (5:07)

Okay. Yeah. Not many guys on that list when they're open, when they shoot, they make. I always thought whenever Kareem shot the sky hook, it was going in that. It's probably the first guy that I can remember when he shot, it was going in. Yes.

Jermaine O'Neal (5:27)

Marvin, mid range was Shea.

Dan Patrick (5:31)

Yeah. Okay. I, I need a little larger sample size maybe on that. I mean, Katie's been doing this for a long, long time, so you need.

Jermaine O'Neal (5:40)

People 10 years plus.

Dan Patrick (5:42)

No, it doesn't have to be 10, but, you know, give me a good seven years. Six. Seven years. But you're right. I mean, Shay. But Shea, his. His shots are contested from the standpoint of who's guarding him is probably his size maybe a little taller. Kevin Durant's 7ft tall. They may list him at 6, 9. He's 7ft tall. If you see him next to LeBron. LeBron's supposed to be 6, 9 KD. 7ft. Yes, he does Anthony Edwards get into that list at some point? Oh, I guess he can, but I don't look him as a bucket like that. He's pretty close, though. He. Nobody's close to Steph and KD open. Look, those guys even contested for kd. He's scoring because it's rare if you're going to get a piece of his shot. I remember Anthony, who was it, just got traded from Portland, Simons, he blocked KD shot one time, and I remember seeing the highlight, I was like, I gotta watch that again. But he, he blocked his shot maybe last year, the year before, and I was shocked. Like a jumper, like Dirk. I don't, you know, he seven footer, fading away, really tough to block that shot. Yes, Paulie, it's a different shot, but.

Bridget Todd (7:02)

When Jalen Brock, center of the Knicks, does that little cross into the middle and it's about 10, 11ft and he has an open eye on it and it rims out like.

Dan Patrick (7:09)

Oh, yeah, it's a surprise. But Katie and Steph are in a category, you know, all time category. I always thought whenever Bird had a wide open shot, it was going in. I'd put him on that list, too. Paulie talked about Ray Allen wide open. Yes. I'd put him on that list too. Anybody else you can think of, Marv.

Jermaine O'Neal (7:32)

Like wide open.

Dan Patrick (7:34)

Where you go, that's a bucket. Now we're talking about kd, you know, somebody contesting him and it always feels like it's going in. Yeah. Paul Steph is the one seed, though.

Bridget Todd (7:44)

When you see him with no one around and it doesn't go in, the crowd does.

Dan Patrick (7:47)

Oh, yeah. Yes, Mark.

Jermaine O'Neal (7:49)

And there's nothing worse than watching the opposite. The opposing coaches going, how is he open?

Dan Patrick (7:57)

But I can go back to when the Lakers played the Celtics and Magic hits the sky hook. The Celtics call timeout. They run a play and James Worthy is actually holding on to Larry Bird's shirt, his jersey, and he loses. Larry Bird in the corner. And Larry can win the game from the corner. And he misses the shot. And we had James Worthy on. He goes, oh, my God, I can't believe that I lost him. And he could have hit that shot from the corner. Kind of rattles in and out. Alrighty. We'll come up with a poll question for hour two. Jermaine o' Neill, former all Star, is going to join us. Jim Jackson stops by as well. Joining us now is Brett McCormick, Sports Business Journal. He covers stadiums, fan experience, ticketing. He covers it all. And we were thinking about having you on, Brett, because I'm looking at what the Cleveland, what the Browns are doing moving to the suburbs, and I guess it's a dome stadium. But I was wondering, when does the stadium become obsolete in your eyes?

Bridget Todd (9:05)

Great question and thanks for having me. And as a long suffering Hornets fan, I hope that Con Knuckle joins the list you were just talking about. That is the, that is the prayer in Charlotte.

Dan Patrick (9:17)

Yeah.

Bridget Todd (9:17)

No, this, this is, this is a topic I'm thinking about a lot right now because you have this cycle of stadiums that are coming up to the put up or shut up question. I guess. So these stadiums built between 1995 and 2005, you've got like Jacksonville, Charlotte, Houston, Denver. I mean, there's probably a dozen of them. And it's the kind of the critical juncture of where, you know, architecturally and engineering wise, you look at should we renovate this or should we build a new stadium? And you know, I don't write about the, you know, whether these should be financed by who or, or whether it's a good investment or what. But that is about the lifespan is 20 to 25 years. You're really studying should we build a new stadium in a, in a different location or should we renovate what we've got? And you've got all of the above going on right now. And a lot of those decisions are dictated by location. You know, is it, is it in a urban area or is it developable around it or, or Whatever.

Dan Patrick (10:17)

I, that's what I, I understand the Browns, if you want to do a dome stadium, I, I get that. But where that's located is great in my opinion, having been there and, and it feels like you could develop around that, I guess, if you want. I've been to Foxborough where the Patriots play. I mean, they try to set up something there like, hey, come out to Foxborough. Well, you go to Foxborough to see the Patriots, you're not going to go to, you know, Dave and Buster's there or Applebee's. Bring the kids and let's go 20 miles or something. You know, the Bears are moving out of downtown as well. Is that a dome stadium as well?

Bridget Todd (10:57)

That's a good question. We haven't seen the design yet, but so what they're looking for is space. So I think with the Cleveland waterfront, I think there is an issue that it's difficult to develop down there because of some roads and the way it's set up. But you would think that in both cases Chicago and Cleveland, that the waterfront would be difficult to beat. But I think what they're looking for is space. And it kind of speaks to one of the trends that's happening in sports venue design right now. More with other sports, especially baseball, where you've got people coming to 80 games. It's a little different with the NFL, but what they're trying to do is set up a stadium as a hub of a district where again, you have people living, working and playing. And that's what they're looking for, is space. And so it is kind of, when I talk about location, the location for certain teams can be, you know, in an urban setting, downtown, in the midst of everything. And for other teams, they may need space. If you kind of think about the Braves, you know, Atlanta Braves kind of started this second round of mixed use development. They left a downtown in Atlanta and moved out to the suburbs and created their own like Stepford Wives Village or Potemkin Village of Braves baseball. And so, you know, so teams have seen that. And, and the thing with mixed use development is it's appealing to sports teams because they don't have to share it. It's not in the revenue sharing. So this is money that they keep. And so that, that has been a big impetus for doing this kind of development.

Dan Patrick (12:19)

And you're talking about the Bears, the Commanders, Carolina Panthers, the Jaguars, Calgary Flames, you know, renovation there for the Saddle Dome, the Royals and White Sox might be on the list there of, of doing the same thing. I, it feels like, you know, even when you look at the Dallas Mavericks, where Mark Cuban said, I'm not a real estate guy, and I'm going to sell it to real estate people and then try to develop around the stadium and then bring in a casino, it. Is that the blueprint for what we should expect with all, you know, even Wrigley. Wrigley's got its own sports book there.

Bridget Todd (12:59)

Yeah. And it's. It kind of speaks to, you know, and you watch the costs of these are just go. Are like, skyrocketing. And it's. Part of it is because more is expected of venues now. You know, you used to have a lower bowl, upper deck, you know, maybe some suites. And that has really shifted. I mean, you've got all kinds of seating products and different types of areas you can stand, and there's different technologies that allow you to buy beer faster and more often. And so, you know, from that, from that standpoint, the experience has changed a bit. What people expect, like, how you get in is often easier than it used to be. And so. Yeah, and. And so I think what they have always thought about is you get people to come early and you get people to stay later. And again, that's the money that you're generating that you don't have to share with the other 30, 31 owners. And, and that's become highly appealing. As you know, this. This whole thing has become more competitive. I think more of the sports ownership groups are looking at these as businesses and less of like, a cool status play thing that I'm going to hand off to my kids. And so you're seeing, like, a lot of new ownership groups that are coming in with very different ideas. Josh Harris with the Commanders and like the Walton family with Denver, which is going to be added to this list. I think they've got a project that is brewing out there. So, you know, kind of different ownership groups bringing different ideas, and then just the changes that have happened with the fan experience over, like, 20 to 30 years are really influencing these designs.

Dan Patrick (14:23)

Yeah, I go back to Camden Yards because they moved it back into the city, and you had the waterfront there, a beautiful stadium, had the warehouse there. Great fan, but I don't know, is that becoming obsolete? Camden Yards that. Are they going to want to do something different?

Bridget Todd (14:42)

I don't think it's obsolete, but I think you could see more around it. So if you think about what's across the parking lot is MNT Bank Stadium, which is another one of these where the Ravens play that's getting renovated. You've got, like, this massive parking lot in between that. And so if I'm a parking lot, I'm like, you know, you're in the crosshairs because it's the lowest. You know, it's the lowest possible use of land is to. Is to park on it. And so. And if you think about with Camden Yards and M and T Bank Stadium, there's a train that runs right by it, you know, so if you can get people to use the train, you can use that parking lot for something else. I would watch Citi Field with this. You know, you've got a highly aggressive owner who's very. He's got some change. And they've got, you know, probably one of the best public transit setups in the US for public sports, for sports venues. And, you know, he's trying to build a casino and basically develop those parking lots. So I think the Camden Yards thing is. Is the aesthetic and, like, the. The vibes there are probably more popular than ever, but you just got to have something beyond it now. It kind of. The stadium itself sort of bleeds into this next level, you know, this next layer.

Dan Patrick (15:48)

What is the least modern stadium or the worst stadium?

Bridget Todd (15:54)

Great question. So I would say. So we were just talking about Camden Yards. Camden Yards kind of sparked this, like, revival of. I. I don't. I don't know the architectural term, but maybe like, neoclassical or something like that. The one that was built right before that was. I think it's now called Rate Field, where the White Sox play. And this is the last of the last stadium before all the cool stadiums, basically. And so that's. That's widely agreed as one of the. Just. They have, like, no personality. It's. It's. There's. There's not much there.

Dan Patrick (16:24)

Wasn't that cellular, wasn't it? US Cellular?

Bridget Todd (16:27)

It's. It was guaranteed rate. US Cellular.

Dan Patrick (16:30)

Yeah, I. I was there.

Bridget Todd (16:32)

Even the names.

Dan Patrick (16:32)

Yeah, I was there for the last game at Comiskey and one of the first ones at the Cell. I remember that, you know. Yeah, I think charm is the word. You're probably like, we want something that has a little charm to it, a little nostalgia as well. But what is the best stadium in America?

Bridget Todd (16:51)

Great question.

Dan Patrick (16:53)

Like.

Bridget Todd (16:53)

And actually modern.

Dan Patrick (16:54)

Modern state.

Bridget Todd (16:55)

Let me add. Let me add one more to the worst ones.

Dan Patrick (16:57)

Is.

Bridget Todd (16:58)

Is. Everybody's excited to see what happens with RFK because I think FedEx field night or. Or nor whatever it's called now. Northwest Mutual something. Northwest Stadium is widely agreed. It's probably the worst stadium in US Sports. I mean the location, it's out in the middle of nowhere. There's nothing around it. You know, you literally had sewage fall on people. Ra fall over. They got sued. So I think everybody is stoked to see what happens with, with them and potentially rfk the best stadium. This is a great question and it's probably like a bit objective. It kind of depends sport to sport. It's going to be different. But I, I think I really love the mid city kind of older style ballparks. I think everybody does. I would even say, I would even say the Pittsburgh Pirates have a pretty strong, pretty strong case, which has always cracked me up because if you had promotion and relegation and Major League Baseball, you know, they'd probably, they'd probably be a single A team by now. But because, because they don't get relegated. They've invested in their ballpark and it's, it's beautiful. The Camden Yards is, it's definitely up there. I mean they're about to do a major renovation on it which will modernize it. But I don't think, you know, I don't think that's, I don't think they're going to touch any of the kind of mystique of it. You know, I don't, I don't overly love Fenway and Wrigley because they're, they're really, really old. Like so they are very cramped. And you know, in terms of somebody who visits stadiums, you know, it's not, it's not like a great, it's not a great time. Yeah, that's, that's a great question. I really like Pittsburgh. It's a great, it's a great ballpark.

Dan Patrick (18:25)

Brad, thanks for joining us. We appreciate it.

Bridget Todd (18:27)

Yeah, it was fun. Thanks for having me.

Dan Patrick (18:29)

All right. Brett McCormick, Sports Business Journal. Now you start to look at these stadiums, I mean it's, it's incredible the number of stadiums that are being built or renovated. And you go back to what Stan Kroenke did in Los Angeles, even with the Golden State Warriors. Like you want to have something and then you want apartments around it. You, you want to have things around it. And it helps when you have a basketball or a baseball team, certainly a baseball team. So you get 81 days there, maybe you get the postseason in there, but then the other days you want to be able to get concerts in there, you want events in there. If you're got an NFL stadium, that's where I understand that you're going to want a dome. And if Cleveland wants to move out, although I love that location. Can't you put a dome on that stadium? And I think most financial experts will say the people who benefit from this are the owners. It's not like cities do the, the real estate people and the owners usually do well with this. It's like, hey, this is gonna provide job. This is gonna mean. And this is, I'm like, okay, okay. So what we're gonna do is take this teams out of the city and then build a new stadium to build.

Jermaine O'Neal (19:45)

A city around the new stadium that.

Dan Patrick (19:46)

We took out of the city. Yeah, I don't know if I want to go to the suburbs where I go, hey, come on kids, we're going to the suburbs. That you're going to go out there to a restaurant in the suburbs if you live 20 miles away. They're typically not, you know, Michelin star restaurants that they put around these things. Yeah. Hey, Gordon Ramsay opened up a new, you know, restaurant here. Let's go kids.

Bridget Todd (20:11)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (20:11)

It's called a plebes. Oh, I will get phone calls coming up, just getting started hour to Jermaine o' Neill, former NBA player will join us and your phone calls as well. We'll take a break. We're back after this.

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25 years, 25 players before training camp kickstarts a new NFL season. NFL Daily is going to look back. It is a special six episode series where myself, Greg Rosenthal and some of the top NFL minds like Kevin Harlan, Mina Kimes and Bill Barnwell make the case for each player. We're taking a look back giving you NFL Daily's top 25 players of the last 25 years. So who made the list? You know, Tom Brady's on it. Where's Patrick Mahomes?

Dan Patrick (24:56)

Kansas City.

Bridget Todd (24:57)

He's on it. How about Lamar Jackson?

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Dan Patrick (26:23)

More phone calls. We'll settle on a poll question for hour two. Dan and the Dan Patrick Show. Jermaine o' Neal, head coach of Dynamic Prep Academy in Irving, Texas. He played 18 seasons in the NBA, played for seven different teams, and back in 1996, 17th pick overall by the Portland Trailblazers. Jermaine, good to catch up with you again. Take me back to that draft night. What were you, 17 years of age back then?

Jermaine O'Neal (26:52)

Yeah, I was 17. First of all, Dan, I appreciate you having me back. It's always good to see you and talk to you, but it was a pretty amazing night. Obviously back then, the rules were a lot different from perspective, once you made yourself eligible was no, you know, time period where you can go through your draft process. It was you commit, you make yourself eligible for the draft, you know, you forfeit your college eligibility. And it was nerve wracking, Obviously, as a 17 year old and not really knowing what the process is. But I was truly blessed to have a guy named Oren tell him who is my agent and son of a Carol, you know, who went through the process with me and helped educate, educate me about the, you know, the process that I was about to go into.

Dan Patrick (27:32)

Okay, but 17 on the road.

Jermaine O'Neal (27:37)

Right? So, Dan, listen, I gotta say this. You know, the Portland Trailblazers did an amazing job on being prepared for a 17 year old.

Dan Patrick (27:48)

Okay.

Jermaine O'Neal (27:48)

And you know, all of my teammates, they made sure that I, they did things with me on the road that, you know, that made sense for my age and, and they were prepared for me to get there.

Dan Patrick (27:59)

How did they prepare you? Because there's a lot of things that can go wrong on the road no matter how old you are.

Jermaine O'Neal (28:05)

100% though I think a lot of it is. Honestly, I stuck with the core values of how my mother raised me, making sure that I understood what my purpose was when I got there. Obviously I knew the task of trying to become a professional athlete and a good professional athlete in Baske was very difficult, you know, because of that big, you know, age gap and transition. But, you know, my focus was, you know, you know, to always prove not only to the people that were saying that I wasn't a great draft pick at the time, but you know, for myself, most importantly, that I knew what I was.

Dan Patrick (28:35)

Cooper flags going in about the same age, about same age as LeBron. What advice would you give him? Man?

Jermaine O'Neal (28:44)

Just, you know, obviously things a lot different now from a perspective of social, social media and we're seeing this impact on what, how social makes people feel. He has to be able to give himself some grace as well. You know, obviously it's a lot of pressure being the number one pick going to a situation that, you know, he lost another really good player. So people are expecting him to come in and fill the void. He needs to really just focus on what he can do in his development and give himself grace over a period of time that he has to understand the transition from college to the NBA.

Dan Patrick (29:14)

You coached against Cooper Flagg.

Jermaine O'Neal (29:17)

I did, you know, quite a Bit, you know, he's, he was in my son's originally the 20, 25 class and then he reclassed up. I think it's after his junior year. But I've been coaching against Cooper, you know, since seventh, eighth grade.

Dan Patrick (29:34)

And what did you see? When did you see it?

Jermaine O'Neal (29:37)

You know, the first thing that jumped out to me right away, he used to wear these, I call it the Patrick Ewing knee pads all the time. And he was a kid, I was like, why does this kid have this knee pad? But his talent level, he always had ball skills, you know, bring the ball up, you know, beat people off the dribble. He's always athletic. You know, the thing that I loved about Cooper and I told him this in the last Nike YBL game that, you know, that I coached against him in, is that he approaches the game the right way. He's never sped up, he's never shot chasing right. He can impact the game without even having the ball in his hand. How, you know, he defends, how he blocks shots, how he rebounds, how he communicates to his team. So I definitely looking for great things for this kid in his career.

Dan Patrick (30:22)

But Carmelo came out on a podcast, I think he might have been with Paul George and he said that Cooper doesn't have the bag. Like he doesn't have that signature move. And I said, but he does everything else. I mean he's 17, 18 years of age. I don't expect him to have that signature move right away. Did you see, like he can always be a better shooter, deeper shooter, but it feels like he can go inside out, doesn't mind contact, those kind of things. But offensively, what would you suggest he needs to work on?

Jermaine O'Neal (30:57)

Just the shooting. Obviously the NBA is about shooting now, so the consistent shooting. Obviously the three point line is a little bit deeper than the college, but I would agree with Carmelo. Carmelo, I should, you know, Kyan is, was in that same class. So, you know, we've been seeing each other in the gym for a very long time. But from perspective, it's important that he understands that he doesn't have to be anybody else but himself. Right? He's like a Swiss army knife. Right. He has so many different things that he can bring to the table and he just needs to focus on that. You know, he doesn't have a, a flashy bag, but his, his flash is his impact.

Dan Patrick (31:31)

Talking to Jermaine o' Neill, head coach of Dynamic Prep Academy in Irving, Texas and spent 18 seasons in the NBA, do you have a theory on why We've seen these Achilles tears.

Jermaine O'Neal (31:44)

That's interesting. We've been talking and talking a lot about this. I think, you know, one of the things that people talk about, you know, the pace. And the pace is really fast. I think from perspective, you know, the days of practicing, you know, like, really practicing, you know, they don't practice as much. Right. They have more downtime. And when you look at the pace, you know, of how fast they're playing, and I don't know if the body's as conditioned to play at that pace. So they have a lot of rest days, not a lot of contact days. And so from a perspective of like, you know, being able to be conditioned for that quick twitch to change a possession, you know, that is something that I think has, you know, has a lot to do with it.

Dan Patrick (32:24)

Your kids ask about who you played against or you're welcome to the NBA moment. Did they. They. They want to know what was it like guarding or being guarded by who. Who's the player? Players they ask about.

Jermaine O'Neal (32:37)

I don't think the kids really ask. They always ask about how was it. Right. It's always the question of how was it to play in the league? And, you know, how was it play against, you know, guys like Shaq and Kobe and obviously LeBron and Michael Jordan. I've been able to play against, you.

Dan Patrick (32:52)

Know, all of them. But what was your welcome to the NBA moment, Akeem?

Jermaine O'Neal (32:57)

Elijah won in Houston, and.

Dan Patrick (33:02)

That was.

Jermaine O'Neal (33:02)

Not a great matchup for me.

Dan Patrick (33:05)

It wasn't a great matchup for a lot of guys. Jermaine.

Bridget Todd (33:09)

Yeah.

Jermaine O'Neal (33:09)

You know, and it's so funny, Dan. I don't think people talk enough about a king. Like a king is literally. He was. He had the footwork, he had the moves. You know, he had the jump shot. I mean, obviously he's. He's all time shot blocking, you know, leader, you know, in the NBA. I mean, he just impacted the game and so many times, and many times, you know, people don't give him a lot of credit for this, but he was fasting a lot in his career, and it's hard to do and play at that level. You know, not being able to eat before games, you know, eat through a period of time. Time.

Dan Patrick (33:40)

Yeah. I think he's underrated because we look at the big man and then it's, oh, by. Oh, yeah. Then Akeem Olajuwon. But, you know, his footwork, I think soccer really helped him. I thought his footwork was impeccable for a big man.

Jermaine O'Neal (33:56)

He used to just dance with people and, you know, I remember getting in the game and I try to give him all of my fouls, right? And was in the game to. To sub somebody that was in file trouble since 18 years old. It was. It was ridiculous. But, you know, he's a guy that I always like to watch because he was almost impossible to guard. You know, he can hit you with anything, and he was like a ballerina. I think he just danced with you at all times.

Dan Patrick (34:21)

Did Jordan take advantage of you?

Jermaine O'Neal (34:25)

No, I hadn't had a chance to guard him. But Jordan is. People always have this conversation about, you know, the greatest. And first of all, you know, these. These guys are all great, you know, within their own, you know, their, you know, games. But Jordan himself had a different or. I remember being in the All Star game, and obviously, you've been in locker room, and it's like, you know, everybody's the best players in the world, right? And we consider ourselves the, you know, some of the best, you know, in the NBA. And Jordan always come in a little bit late, right. He's the last. But you can hear him coming, right? And what I mean by that, you hear. It's. It's kind of like a. The noise, and then you hear the cameras, and then he walks in the locker room, and everybody just stopped talking and just. He just walks by, and we just looking. He was almost like a God, you know, to be honest. And, you know, he's done so much for the game, man. But I think his impact generationally, has just been something that we hadn't seen, you know, before.

Dan Patrick (35:20)

Did Kobe have that, too?

Jermaine O'Neal (35:23)

I think Kobe had it, you know, I think, you know, obviously LeBron has it as well, but they don't have. It was like. It's like greatness, A and then B and C, you know what I'm saying? From a perspective of, like, how we as players, you know, when we see him. Right. You know, I. I grew up with Kobe, so, you know, we're in the same high school class, so I didn't necessarily look at him that way.

Dan Patrick (35:45)

Okay.

Jermaine O'Neal (35:46)

You know, Michael Jordan is the one that really, I think, you know, really took the NBA to, you know, the next level, you know, with his start.

Dan Patrick (35:55)

Mike has a mystery about him. You know, there's not a mystery with LeBron. Maybe not a mystery with co. What was Kobe like, though? You. You faced him in camps?

Jermaine O'Neal (36:06)

Yeah, yeah. We've been facing each other since we were 13. And Kobe was always dedicated to basketball. And what I mean by that is, like, he. He literally dang carried around a lot of Michael Jordan tapes. Like, he would not do the typical things that we would do at camps. He wouldn't really hang out much. He was always studying, right? Always studying. So I wasn't surprised to see the type of career that he had because he wanted to sacrifice other things just to make sure he was considered one of the greatest ever played.

Dan Patrick (36:38)

I remember talking to Rick Fox, some of the Lakers, and they were out at a. A bar and I said, where's Kobe and Derek Fisher? They laughed. And I go, why? Why are you laughing? They go, he didn't go out. He stays in his room. I'm like, okay. So, yeah, I think then, I think.

Jermaine O'Neal (37:01)

That was the biggest thing, like early in his career, you heard a lot of noise about he wasn't a great teammate. Right. I mean, people didn't know a lot about him on his own team. And I think some of that was. That was his, his genetic makeup. Right. He was always studying. Right. He's always preparing. And, you know, to a point, it was almost to, you know, a default when it came to how people perceived his own teammates perceived him because they didn't, you know, get a chance to hang out with him. And that's one of the things that we always do on the team. We are always around each other and if you don't see your teammate, then you, you, your mindset is, hey, he doesn't want to be around us or, you know, something else. But he was always studying and preparing.

Dan Patrick (37:40)

This Dame Lillard situation is really interesting for me. The Bucks are going to pay him a hundred million dollars to not play. He's going to rehab. He's going to be 36. I think it's a huge, huge opportunity for Dame Lillard in a team that will get him next spring when he's healthy and could be helping a team in the playoffs. Your thoughts on what the Bucks did and Dame Lillard's future?

Jermaine O'Neal (38:07)

Well, one I'm not surprised about, you know, about the business. Now, obviously, the apron tax threshold now is in full effect, so teams are trying to figure out ways to maneuver around that. So things like this is probably. This is probably not going to be the last time we see something like this. But from a Dane Lillard perspective, I think he now has a true opportunity to win a championship now because now he gets. He doesn't have to have. He doesn't have to rush back to figure out free agency or, you know, whatever it may be. He can really take his time and really evaluate each roster, evaluate, you know, his best Fit and you know, for a player that gets a chance to basically sit out a year and prepare, I mean that's an amazing opportunity. And by the way, still get paid over the next five years. Twenty plus million dollars for a team that you don't play for.

Dan Patrick (38:54)

Did people think you were related to Shaq?

Jermaine O'Neal (38:57)

Yeah, all the time. It's funny because me and Shaq have family members in South Carolina, so we did talk a little bit about it, but I get that question all the time.

Dan Patrick (39:06)

What was it like to guard him?

Jermaine O'Neal (39:10)

Very difficult. You know, I really believe Shaq is, he's a special human being. Obviously. He's a, he's a giant, incredibly strong, very kind hearted. I think even to a point as dominant as he, as he was in his, his career and probably one of the most, maybe the most dominant player at that position we've ever seen. You know, he really cared about people and sometimes he will pull up a little bit if he liked you in the game and you know, he's just.

Dan Patrick (39:37)

Wait, what do you mean? How would he, he wouldn't take it to you?

Jermaine O'Neal (39:42)

Well, he, he will, you could tell like he will, he won't like. It's certain players that you knew he didn't like. Right. And you can tell from start to finish. Right. And then you get in game sometimes you see him talking and laughing with the guys that he's competing against and, and I think some of it was respect for other people, but also to, you know, Shaq. I think Shaq understood just how strong he was. I've never ever seen or played against a person that size, that nimble and that strong. And he could really probably just, you know, people wouldn't grabbing him all the time. You know, I thought he had great composure, but he could have really just dominated people if he really wanted to. Just destroy everybody.

Dan Patrick (40:21)

The Pacers moving forward, it almost feels like they might be taking this next year off. With Halliburton hurt and Miles Turner goes to the Bucks. What do you think? You know, you got Celtics, they're damaged. The Knicks are going to be there, the Cavs are going to be there. 76ers aren't much, but I mean the Pacers were a feel good story and then all of a sudden now you're without Halliburton and you're going to be without Miles Turner.

Jermaine O'Neal (40:51)

Yeah, it's one of those things in, in really pro sports. But you know, you obviously I was rooting for the Pacers to win it and I thought that they could win it if it wasn't for that injury, but, like, you never know, like, in this business, you have to almost be all in, you know, in the year that you can, you can, you know, you can get there. Because things like an injury or, you know, or a coaching change or a key player going to a different team, it derails it and doesn't really guarantee, you know, you'll get back there, you know, now, hell, that was. It took 25 years to get to that point. And so I do believe that it's an opportunity for some of the young teams with all the injuries, you know, that we've had, you know, late season with guys been out all of next year, like the Orlando Magic, the Toronto Raptors, I think. I think the Sixers can get back if they're healthy, you know, dominant. But, you know, we'll see.

Dan Patrick (41:48)

When's the last time you dunked?

Jermaine O'Neal (41:51)

Probably a couple. Maybe a month or so ago.

Dan Patrick (41:54)

Oh, okay. Just showing off or.

Jermaine O'Neal (41:58)

Listen, I could go to a regular league right now leading and scoring. I promise you, I still try to stay in pretty good shape. And believe it or not, every year I have kids off from my school or my club that wants to challenge me one on one. I'm the old guy that they seem to think that they can be. And I have to remind them that I. I got paid to do this for a career, you know, so I'm not gonna allow a teenager to be.

Dan Patrick (42:26)

Could you. So you could beat Cooper Flag one on one side.

Jermaine O'Neal (42:31)

I didn't say all of that.

Dan Patrick (42:35)

Okay. All right. It felt like you were on the verge of saying that.

Jermaine O'Neal (42:39)

No, I'm not saying all of that right now. Okay, here's what I will tell you. If I had. If we had a possession game where we were playing mid post to post, and we're going to just call it five, one on one. I like my chances.

Dan Patrick (42:53)

Okay.

Jermaine O'Neal (42:55)

I don't like your response on that.

Dan Patrick (42:57)

Okay.

Jermaine O'Neal (42:58)

You have no faith in me.

Dan Patrick (42:59)

I don't have to see it. I mean, what are you, 45?

Jermaine O'Neal (43:04)

46.

Dan Patrick (43:05)

46. And. And if we're just paying. Playing in the post. Yeah, you're. You're going to dominate Cooper flag.

Jermaine O'Neal (43:14)

Listen, I. I'm saying I will be able to. I like my chances against anybody in the post at this point. Now, if we're talking about playing full court, I'm not doing that. Like, I'm gonna lose that battle. These legs don't have that much gas.

Dan Patrick (43:28)

Okay. If I have you against Victor Wembanyama right now in the post.

Jermaine O'Neal (43:35)

And we.

Bridget Todd (43:36)

Just straight post yeah, post work.

Jermaine O'Neal (43:37)

Yeah, yeah, I think I got a chance. I do.

Dan Patrick (43:40)

Okay, absolutely.

Jermaine O'Neal (43:42)

Then I can. Right now I convert.

Bridget Todd (43:47)

Again.

Jermaine O'Neal (43:47)

Let's be, let's, let's.

Dan Patrick (43:48)

Okay. Okay.

Jermaine O'Neal (43:49)

You know how these, these comments go.

Dan Patrick (43:51)

When you say they're gonna go viral. I know, right.

Jermaine O'Neal (43:54)

So listen, okay, if we just say, hey, throw me the ball in the post, we go one on one versus me Garden and, and, and me having offensive possessions, I still like my chances against anybody because I still am pretty nimble from a perspective of being able to play. Now if it goes to like going up and down the court and screening rolls and all that stuff, yeah, you can take me out of that. But if it's mono, a mono. Let's post up. I think I got a chance.

Dan Patrick (44:18)

So you'd beat LeBron if you post up.

Jermaine O'Neal (44:23)

Then this is because I believe that, okay, if I had the ball and if we planned just straight post up. Yeah, I believe that I'm strong enough still. I think I'm still agile enough to score in the low post because I do it every year. I still go on the basketball court still, you know, do things. Listen, I'm sure if you ask Joe Johnson these things, right, you ask any the older guys that still work out, they're going to tell you the same thing. But they're not going to say, look, I can run up and down the court with these guys because no, we not. We can't do that.

Dan Patrick (44:55)

So you can dominate LeBron in the post is what you're saying. And Cooper flag, you can dominate him.

Jermaine O'Neal (45:01)

I said that.

Dan Patrick (45:02)

Victor, when Benyama. I just want to make sure I got this right, Jermaine. I just want to make sure.

Jermaine O'Neal (45:06)

I'm saying that I have, I feel like I have a chance to win a one on one in the low post. Like whether I win it or not. We'll see.

Dan Patrick (45:14)

Okay?

Jermaine O'Neal (45:15)

But if we're talking about just playing one on one in the post, there's something I do every year, right? I still, I still, I still work.

Dan Patrick (45:22)

Out quite a bit and LeBron's not that much younger than you, so.

Jermaine O'Neal (45:26)

Hey, man, shout out to LeBron too. Dan. Like this, 40 plus years old, doing what he's doing amazing.

Dan Patrick (45:34)

Great to talk to you again. Keep, Keep working on the low post moves. Okay.

Jermaine O'Neal (45:40)

I appreciate it then.

Dan Patrick (45:41)

That's Jermaine o' Neal, head coach of Dynamic Prep Academy in Irving, Texas. It didn't matter what name I threw out. You could deceive. He. He's just processing it. It's like I like my chances. Yes, Marv.

Jermaine O'Neal (45:57)

But we talked about that yesterday when you said, hey, does James Harden think he's better than so and so? These guys, they're wired different. Yes.

Dan Patrick (46:04)

I still want LeBron to say to KD, do you think you're better than me on that podcast? Damn, that would be a great question. Yes, but these kids don't play the.

Bridget Todd (46:14)

Way Jermaine o' Neal.

Dan Patrick (46:16)

Guys like him grew up playing, right? They don't play that low post sort.

Bridget Todd (46:21)

Of banging bodies kind of thing.

Dan Patrick (46:23)

Heck yeah, he could push Cooper flag. Yeah, but he's going to. Yeah, he could push. He could push Victor Wembanyama around. Heck yeah, he's not going to push LeBron around. Maybe not, okay? But I like the confidence. I, I have that, you know, blind drunk confidence too. Take a break. Back after this.

Bridget Todd (46:39)

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Bridget Todd (47:50)

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Dan Patrick (48:30)

I get right back there and it's bad. It's really bad.

Bridget Todd (48:34)

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Ebony (48:59)

Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

Bridget Todd (50:05)

25 years, 25 players before training camp kick starts a new NFL season, NFL Daily is going to look back. It is a special six episode series where myself, Greg Rosenthal and some of the top NFL minds like Kevin Harlan, Mina Kimes and Bill Barnwell make the case for each player. We're taking a look back, giving you NFL Daily's top 25 players of the last 25 years. So who made the list? You know Tom Brady's on it. Where's Patrick Mahomes?

Dan Patrick (50:37)

Touchdown Kansas City.

Bridget Todd (50:39)

He's on it. How about Lamar Jackson?

Dan Patrick (50:42)

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Bridget Todd (50:51)

You are gonna have to listen to find out. Listen to NFL Daily's top 25 players of the last 25 years starting on June 30th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Ebony (51:05)

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Bridget Todd (51:33)

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Jermaine O'Neal (51:35)

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Dan Patrick (51:39)

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Dan Patrick (52:05)

So this story the Cleveland Browns insider, Mary Kay Cabot. She said that Deshaun Watson reportedly has taken Shador Sanders under his wing.

Bridget Todd (52:21)

Excuse me.

Dan Patrick (52:25)

According to Mary Kay Cabot, DeSean Watson has been an awesome teammate inside the quarterback room, most meeting rooms, a great cheerleader for the four quarterbacks vying for the starting job. What could go wrong in in fairness to Deshaun Watson, maybe he truly is going to help Shador Sanders be a quarterback, be professional. And I know you're going to say from a guy who wasn't professional, but he was a very good quarterback at one point he was a very good quarterback. I'll probably get a little intel on the Cleveland Browns. If not today, maybe tomorrow, maybe a little bit more because I'm reading varying reports there about, you know, who's, who's the favorite, you know, is it Kenny Pickett? Which it feels like Kenny Pickett might be the leader in the clubhouse, but that's just to start the season. Keep in mind the Browns have two first round picks next year. Just, you know, you put that out there of maybe they, they don't have their quarterback. Greatest week in sports. Who had the greatest week in sports? Todd, I'll start with you. The best week in sports I'm giving.

Jermaine O'Neal (53:35)

It to SGA signs a new four year, 285 million dollar supermax extension.

Dan Patrick (53:39)

His salary will steadily increase until it.

Jermaine O'Neal (53:41)

Reaches 78 million during the 3031 season, according to our guest yesterday, Bobby Marks.

Dan Patrick (53:46)

Satan Dame. It's not even close, but if that's a great week. You got paid a gajillion dollars to go wherever he wants. Mark my word. Next spring, he's healthy.

Jermaine O'Neal (53:58)

Marvin, Miles Turner signing a nice big deal after a long career with the Pacers. Good for him.

Dan Patrick (54:04)

All right, Paul. Best week in sports.

Bridget Todd (54:06)

I'll go with Pittsburgh Steeler fans. It feels like your team has a.

Dan Patrick (54:09)

New urgency and I think they had a nice month off the field. Yeah, I just need the TJ Watt situation to be rectified because look, if the bra. The Bengals bring back Trey Hendrickson, they finally get him in camp and what is it? Shamar Stewart and he comes in. The Bengals are going to be there to win that division. If those two things happen, I really believe that they will be there at the end with that offense and you get a little bit of defense there. All you have to do is be middle of the pack because that offense is going to be elite. Final hour on the way. Our good buddy Jim Jackson, former NBA player. Lots of things to talk about with him. I enjoyed Jermaine o' Neill. I hope you enjoyed it as well. Had a great appearance last time he was on as well. Final hour in this Wednesday, right after this.

Ebony (55:05)

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Ebony (56:04)

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Bridget Todd (56:35)

I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1 Taser Incorporated.

Dan Patrick (56:51)

I get right back there and it's bad.

Bridget Todd (56:54)

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Ebony (57:04)

The OGs of uncensored motherhood are back and badder than ever. I'm Erica. And I'm Mila, and we're the hosts of the Good Mom Bad Choices podcast, brought to you by the Black Effect Podcast Network every Wednesday. Yeah, we're moms, but not your mommy. Historically, men talk too much and women have quietly listened. And all that stops here. If you like witty women, then this is your try. Listen to the Good Moms Bad Choices podcast every Wednesday on the Black Effect podcast network, the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you go to find your podcast. This is an I Heart podcast.