Hour 2 - Caleb’s Chaotic Comments

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 2 - Caleb’s Chaotic Comments

Release Date: May 16, 2025
Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Participants: Rich Davis, Bri (Co-host), Steve Covino (Producer)

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1. Introduction to Caleb Williams' Comments

In this episode, Rich Davis and Bri delve into the recent remarks made by Caleb Williams, the quarterback for the Chicago Bears, which have stirred significant conversation among fans and analysts alike. The discussion centers around Williams' comments as presented in Seth Wickersham's biography, American Kings.

Notable Quote:

• Rich Davis [08:59]: "Carl Williams, Caleb's dad, said, 'Chicago is the place quarterbacks go to die.' And then Caleb said, 'Do I want to go there? I don't think I want to.'"

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2. Breakdown of Caleb Williams' Statement

Rich and Bri dissect the implications of Williams' statement about Chicago being a challenging environment for quarterbacks. They explore whether Williams regrets his choice or if his perspective has shifted since joining the Bears.

Notable Quotes:

• Bri [09:32]: "I don't think it matters, man. I really don't."
• Rich Davis [09:54]: "If you're a Bears fan, does this leave you butthurt? If you're a Bears fan?"

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3. Impact on Chicago Bears and Fan Reactions

The hosts discuss the historical struggles of the Bears in securing a standout quarterback and how Williams' arrival might change the franchise's trajectory. They consider fan sentiments, especially those who have long supported the team despite past disappointments.

Notable Quotes:

• Rich Davis [11:03]: "If you’re a Bears fan, does this bother you even a little?"
• Bri [13:03]: "No, you're not. You’re not marrying Caleb. Well, he's not your wife. Why does it bother you? He's on your team. Make the best of it."

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4. Comparison with Other Athletes and Teams

Rich and Bri draw parallels between Williams' situation and other athletes who had to adapt to unexpected team environments. They highlight how embracing the new setting can lead to personal and professional growth.

Notable Quotes:

• Rich Davis [10:14]: "They gave us the Pope."
• Bri [14:07]: "I'm glad you brought that up."

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5. The Role of Backstory in Athlete's Legacy

The conversation shifts to how an athlete's backstory can enhance their legacy, even if the initial reasons for joining a team were fraught with challenges. They argue that overcoming adversity often makes for a compelling narrative that resonates with fans.

Notable Quotes:

• Bri [15:50]: "Stories matter and it brings a face to them."
• Rich Davis [18:12]: "Every great story starts that way."

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6. Broader Reflections on Team Dynamics and Legacy

Bri and Rich reflect on the importance of focusing on current performance and future potential rather than past grievances or negative comments. They emphasize that the legacy of a team and its players is shaped by their collective achievements and resilience.

Notable Quotes:

• Rich Davis [19:26]: "Some people have their eyes set on a college when they're a young kid..."
• Bri [19:41]: "I believe that to be true. It doesn't matter at all."

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7. Concluding Thoughts and Future Outlook

In wrapping up, the hosts remain optimistic about Williams' impact on the Bears. They suggest that his presence could mark the beginning of a new era for the team, potentially leading to playoff success and a stronger legacy.

Notable Quotes:

• Rich Davis [19:26]: "It's a fun story, but it really is interesting. I just don't think it matters much."
• Bri [19:41]: "Good for them, you know, it's not that it's not interesting."

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8. Additional Highlights

While the primary focus remains on Caleb Williams, the episode also touches upon other sports topics, including:

• Michael Jordan's NBA Rookie of the Year Anniversary: Rich and Bri celebrate the 40th anniversary of Jordan's rookie achievement and discuss his recent involvement with NBA on NBC.

  Notable Quote:

  • Rich Davis [21:54]: "Michael Jordan is going to be part of the broadcast team in some capacity when the NBA returns to NBC."

• Fan Interactions and Personal Anecdotes: The hosts share personal stories and engage in light-hearted banter about sports memorabilia and fan experiences.

  Notable Quote:

  • Bri [53:26]: "And I must have had about 400 chips yesterday and 40 tortillas."

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Conclusion

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show provides an in-depth analysis of Caleb Williams' comments about the Chicago Bears, exploring their significance for both the player and the franchise. Rich Davis and Bri offer thoughtful perspectives on how such statements can influence team dynamics, fan perceptions, and the broader narrative of an athlete's career. Additionally, the episode touches upon other significant sports anniversaries and fosters engaging discussions relevant to avid sports enthusiasts.

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Note: Timestamps indicate the point in the transcript where notable quotes were mentioned, providing context and enhancing the summary's accuracy.

Transcript

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[Bri]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Bri]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Bri]

Sure they don't put their little booger fingers all over.

[Rich Davis]

It's so funny. I open packs with him and if I feel like he has a good one, I'll be like, yo, hand that to dad and I'll put in a little plastic for him. Because you're right, his little grubby Pokemon card hands.

[Bri]

Yeah, sweet Shohei Ohtani card with the jelly all over it. He's five.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, look, you know what? He, he got a skubal rookie in a 2024 pack.

[Bri]

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[Bri]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Bri]

Rocking my Yankee tee. Look at that. Woke up, put my Yankee gear on. I'm ready.

[Rich Davis]

Baseball. Baseball.

[Bri]

I'm wearing stirrups. I'm so fired up.

[Rich Davis]

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[Bri]

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[Bri]

I guess you're away. Okay, I'll show you in a minute.

[Rich Davis]

You'll never know. Sam. Carlos Rodone.

[Bri]

Yes.

[Rich Davis]

Is he hot right now or is he struggling? I haven't. I know right now, four and three era, the low threes. But is he.

[Bri]

Here's the thing.

[Rich Davis]

They found himself.

[Bri]

He's one of those dudes that unravels. That's what they figured out. Like if something goes wrong, it's like, oh, you know, everything collapses after that. Someone makes an error, he's like, ah, Jesus. You know, he doesn't get a call that he wants. Ah. And then the world starts falling apart. They're trying to keep him composed, and he's been a lot better since they've figured that out. And he's been great. I think he's been great. Yeah, he's one of those solid pitchers that we expect him.

[Rich Davis]

He's.

[Bri]

He's no Max Freed, but he's good.

[Rich Davis]

Pitching for the, the Yanks tonight, Mets are throwing Tyler McGill.

[Bri]

I think ever since he's been able to grow a scruff back, he's just more dominant, more comfortable in his skin.

[Rich Davis]

Fair enough. Second question. Not about the Mets. Yanks. On our bonus podcast, over promised. We did a video podcast. Have you lightened up a little bit? I loved all the schedule releases by the NFL teams. 32 Social media managers were all high fiving each other. And Cavino's like, who cares? It's a schedule.

[Bri]

It's not that I don't care about the schedule, it's just that these videos do nothing for me. I think they're corny. Unless it's your team. I get it. You're excited about your team and who they're playing and. Oh, man. But to be cheering for the social media team, man, the social media department. They're insane, right? Who cares? These videos are corny and they're meant for like teenagers. Are you really into Minecraft?

[Rich Davis]

No, but what I'm saying is the same way the NFL draft went from a couple old guys smoking cigars in a wood paneled basement, bro, I watched back.

[Bri]

You thought Schedule Rizzy was a good one. The spoof on Skyrizzy.

[Rich Davis]

I thought it was funny.

[Bri]

Yeah. Rich said, this is what he goes. These are my top five. I'm like, if these are the best ones, I don't even want to see the rest of them.

[Rich Davis]

Well, I said, okay then I must have saved you from the other 27 then, huh?

[Bri]

You could see Rich's top five on our bonus pod over promised. That's on fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. Like we said. I'm not saying I'm not into creativity and that I don't appreciate the effort, but for me to make a huge hoopla out of it like you do and get all excited and like it's nudie magazine day or something, I don't care at all about these videos. Well, hey, Rich. Rich is in the McRib. He's like, the people at McDonald's, like McDonald's food are like excited about the McRib coming back.

[Rich Davis]

I get excited a small little fraction of people.

[Bri]

Like, yeah, schedule release.

[Steve Covino]

Woohoo.

[Bri]

I like McRib.

[Rich Davis]

You mean all these videos that have tens of millions of views? You bird brains.

[Bri]

Yeah. They are trying to cater and appeal to younger people with Minecraft and all that stuff.

[Rich Davis]

That's cool.

[Bri]

But you expect me to care about that? I thought it was honestly, for lack of better term, Rich mad corny.

[Rich Davis]

Well, do you know what? Go back to only caring about Aaron Judge. I hope he goes oh for four times.

[Bri]

Hold on. It is cool to see the evolution of what the schedule, premiere and debut has become. It's like this big. Wow. I can't wait to see what they do.

[Rich Davis]

Well, that's kind of cool. A team that's going to get a little more buzz this year because you know, we're hoping and thinking next step, next level stuff for Caleb Williams and I gotta ask. Distraction unnecessary. Who cares? He's there now. But if you don't know the story last hour we, we, we sort of set this up. Caleb Williams and his dad. There's a book coming out and in this book his dad said Chicago is.

[Bri]

Placed Wickersham some props is Seth Wickersham's book.

[Rich Davis]

I was gonna give you it's not.

[Bri]

Just like some, some Dr. Seuss book.

[Rich Davis]

It's a, it's a book the places will go.

[Bri]

Right.

[Rich Davis]

Seth Wickersham has a book, American Kings, a biography of the quarterback. And in the book, a little preview. Carl Williams, Caleb's dad, said, chicago is the place quarterbacks go to die. And then Caleb said, do I want to go there? I don't think I want to.

[Bri]

Is that as Carl, the truth Williams.

[Rich Davis]

And I think as you read more and more of the quotes, it's stuff that I wonder if Caleb Williams regrets saying or is the narrative like, you ever have the mindset of like, yo, I didn't want to come here, but now I'm here and it's awesome.

[Bri]

Yeah, I don't think it matters, man. I really don't.

[Rich Davis]

If you're a Bears fan, does this leave you butthurt? If you're a Bears fan?

[Bri]

No. Based on what are you a sports baby?

[Rich Davis]

Based on the history of Justin Fields and Trubisky and all the people that have.

[Bri]

Dude, what does Chris Rock say? Just be happy you're with her now, right? Just be happy you're with them now. Just be happy that he's a Bear now you're going to cry about it because he didn't like them. I'm sure it's different story now. It's like Shador Sanders with Cleveland. You think that was his first choice? It wasn't his dad's. If you go back to 2018 and read the tweets, well, I don't want Sanders like, I don't want my son. I'd never let my son play in Cleveland. Well, guess what? That's what happened. They're going to make the best of it.

[Rich Davis]

Well, Jinx, guess what? Carl Williams said, quote, I don't want my son playing for the Bears. So prime time and Carl Williams have something in common. Their sons ended up playing on teams that they were like, I don't want my son playing for that team.

[Bri]

My parents didn't want me moving to California either. And look at us, we're prospering out here. It's great sunshine, am I right? Palm trees.

[Rich Davis]

I miss you, Stephen.

[Bri]

What other, what other job sectors are.

[Rich Davis]

There where the employer chooses you, but.

[Steve Covino]

You don't get to choose the employer?

[Bri]

Usually it's a two way street.

[Rich Davis]

I was saying, didn't your mom say I want him on ESPN or NBC Sports? She never said that. She never said that.

[Bri]

She never said she let me go out and make my own choices and.

[Rich Davis]

Apply to wherever and I like, if.

[Steve Covino]

You'Re a Bears fan, wouldn't you just.

[Bri]

Be like, I don't know if Daddy Williams is wrong here, because it's kind of like we haven't had a, like.

[Steve Covino]

A really, like a big time quarterback.

[Bri]

For about, what, 40 years? Hey, let me ask you this.

[Rich Davis]

Since Jim McMahon had sunglasses on and was doing the Super Bowl Shuffle, the Bears haven't had.

[Steve Covino]

They've had like, Rex Grossman, they've had.

[Bri]

Jay Cutler, they've had a little bit of. A little.

[Rich Davis]

A little sprinkle of success with Mitch Trubisky.

[Bri]

But like, they haven't had, you know, someone like, obviously, like, you know, Patrick.

[Rich Davis]

Mahomes or Josh Allen.

[Bri]

Yeah. They haven't had a superstar.

[Steve Covino]

They haven't had a superstar for a long time.

[Bri]

And he has this type of potential for sure. But do you twist this and embrace him regardless of what he thought previously.

[Rich Davis]

You twisted and say, dad said. Do you twist it and say, yo, man, like, there's been times where I think it's fair when someone's like, you know, I came here and didn't think I was gonna love it, but you know what? Now I do.

[Bri]

Yeah. Cuz that's believable. Where you live right now, was that your first choice? No. You're like, ah, man, the place I really wanted, someone else bought it. But you know what? I got this place and I made it my own. And I'm really happy. Worked out for the best. I can't. I can't even imagine living in that other place because this place, man, I absolutely love it. You don't feel that way about certain things in your life.

[Rich Davis]

Some people have their eyes set on a college when they're a young kid, right? Like, absolutely, I want to go to Penn State. And then you don't get in. And you're like, I went to Rutgers. But you know what? I met my wife and my best friends at Rutgers.

[Bri]

You know what? The universe had a different plan and it worked out. And, yeah, I can't even imagine playing anywhere else. I believe that to be true. It doesn't matter at all. It's a fun story, but. And it's cool to know that the truth and the backstory, but I don't think it matters to the fans or what his output is going to be or his legacy is going to be with the Bears at all.

[Rich Davis]

Let me ask you this. There's the twofold question we'll answer and move on, because there's plenty of other stuff to get to. But if you're A bear.

[Bri]

Why don't you go trifold, like Spotty's wallet?

[Rich Davis]

I'll give you three questions.

[Bri]

Give me three with Velcro. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Number one. If you're a Bears fan, does this bother you even a little?

[Bri]

No, you're not. You're not marrying Caleb. Well, he's not your wife. Why does it bother you? He's on your team. Make the best of it.

[Rich Davis]

And based on the history of your team and the coaches he didn't want to play for are no longer there. So you could almost argue. Yeah, that's a big part of it that you can almost argue that he's like, yeah, I don't know if I could play with. With this coaching staff. In fact, there were also parts of this book previewed where he was watching film, and they didn't even tell him, like, what to watch and what to do, and he felt very misguided.

[Bri]

By the way, if you really want to play stat, boy, I would say 90% of people in sports don't play for the team they really wanted to because they all had childhood affiliations that they rooted for. So they were probably like, yeah, I wish one day I could play for the Steelers. That didn't happen for everybody.

[Rich Davis]

You know, that broke my heart. Iowa. Sam.

[Bri]

Bri.

[Rich Davis]

When I met my hero, Joe Montana, years ago, I was like, joe, you know how much you meant to me? In fact, I told Joe Montana that I wore his pajamas when I was a kid. That was embarrassing.

[Bri]

You know what he said? I remember. I was there. He goes, I hope you still don't wear them.

[Rich Davis]

I love Joe Montana. As a little boy, I had the starting lineup figure. I had a poster on my wall until I graduated to my Cindy Crawford poster in my bedroom was Joe Montana. And when he told me, he's like, yeah, I was always sort of a Steelers guy. I'm like, what? He goes, yeah, I played for the Niners, but I was a Steelers fan.

[Bri]

That's what I mean. You think the 49ers were his first choice? No, he was super pumped about it, made the best of it, and he became a 49er. But it wasn't like, his first thought or dream, I doubt, so. So it's not that really big of a story, even though it is.

[Rich Davis]

Layer a waste. Do Bears fans care? You're gonna say no.

[Bri]

Layer two, just happy they have him now.

[Rich Davis]

In life, your. Your job, your relationship, opportunities you've got personally and professionally. Are you interested at all in the backstory of, like, well, we were gonna hire this guy? But we didn't, so we went with you. Hey, I wanted to date this guy. Yeah.

[Bri]

It's interesting. Like, before I got into radio, I was waiting tables at Bennigan's and I was this close to becoming a firefighter. Cause I thought my radio career would never prosper. And. And look at me now. And for Dan Patrick. Oh, my goodness.

[Steve Covino]

Where's your mustache?

[Bri]

No, seriously. No. I wanted to be Mr. Mr. August in the calendar.

[Rich Davis]

He just wanted to be in the calendar.

[Bri]

I just wanted to wear the suspenders, but only the suspenders. But yeah, the backstory to anything is always cool. Isn't that why you watch any documentary?

[Rich Davis]

I'm going to give everyone in Chicago a little hope because they already have great deep dish pizza. They have a great city. They have a lot of great things in Chicago. The bulls in the 90s, which we're going to talk about in a second because there's a Michael Jordan story we want to get to.

[Bri]

They gave us the Pope.

[Rich Davis]

They gave us the damn. You know, they gave us the damn 90s bulls and the Pope and deep dish and Lou Malnatis and listen, Chicago is a great place.

[Bri]

Disturbed Chevelle. Lots of great music.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Bri]

Dyed rivers green rivers 25 and 6 to 4.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, a lot of good stuff out of the stadium.

[Bri]

Frohman.

[Rich Davis]

Hello. Sausage King, Wrigley Field, the Cubbies. Chicago is great. I'm going to tell you why it's okay, Chicago. Because this Caleb Williams story might just be the funny happy ending where when you guys finally make some playoff runs and maybe get there, maybe when your first super bowl since the Super Bowl Shuffle, you'll go back and be like. And so funny. Caleb didn't even want to be here. Because that is the backstory, my friends. That's the backstory to New York Mets legend Keith Hernandez. Keith Hernandez, who has been part of the Mets organization for 40 plus years. He's one of the most beloved players in organization history. He's part of their broadcast team for the last 20 years.

[Bri]

Yeah. And he snubbed us when we worked at sny.

[Rich Davis]

And I love Keith Hernandez.

[Bri]

No, that's cool.

[Rich Davis]

But no Keith Hernandez. But you know what? Talks about, openly talks about when he was traded from Whitey Herzog's Cardinals to the Mets, he thought about, like, I may quit Mets.

[Bri]

Ugh.

[Rich Davis]

They stunk.

[Bri]

And it worked out for the best.

[Rich Davis]

And he ends up becoming.

[Bri]

Everybody loves him there. Yeah. He's the face of the franchise. He's the dude. He's the guy everybody rolls out the red Carpet for Keith. He's one of the legends.

[Rich Davis]

And it's no. It's no secret that when he got traded from the Cardinals, he was an MVP for St. Louis.

[Bri]

Yeah, he didn't want to go there.

[Rich Davis]

He. He told his agent, like, do whatever you can to stop this.

[Bri]

But again, Rich, you've said it before. It's part of the story. It doesn't make it bad. It makes it actually more interesting. When you ask people about their relationships, how much pride, how much fun does the woman usually. It's usually the woman who says something like this. And I say this respectfully, oh, my God. When I met Sam, it's like I kind of hated him. And then I really hated him. I was like, no. Ew. And then, oh, my God, I got to know him, and he's the best. And then he asked me out, and then now we're in love, and now we're married. But it's always that part of the story that pulls you in, like, oh, wow. Yeah, you hated him, right? That's how Caleb Williams felt.

[Rich Davis]

I'll be honest.

[Bri]

But again, every great story starts that way.

[Rich Davis]

I'll pat you on the back because for the rest of the weekend, you and I are not pals because of the Met Yankees. But that is so freaking accurate. How many relationships are like, oh, my.

[Bri]

God, I couldn't stand him when we first met. He was so full of himself.

[Rich Davis]

When we first met, I was like, ew. And then the girl's like, and then I loved him. And you know what, Chicago, there's your Caleb Williams front front end of your story. Hopefully the back end of your story. I like a nice back end who does. Hopefully the back end of that story for Chicago is a Super bowl at some point with this guy, and then you'll be.

[Bri]

He'll make a speech, make. You know, man, when I first heard about, you know, I wasn't playing Chicago, I know how to feel about it.

[Rich Davis]

And you remember, even my pop said, you don't want to go.

[Bri]

You know, man, I don't know if this is best for you, but, Chicago, you changed my life. I love you. We did it.

[Rich Davis]

And he's got Ben Johnson.

[Bri]

He's got a guy who was one.

[Steve Covino]

Of the best in the NFL the last few seasons with the Detroit Lions.

[Bri]

So the hardware of Chicago was their reputation and just the franchise in general.

[Steve Covino]

And not having great quarterbacks for so long. The software is Ben Johnson. The software is what you can change in and out.

[Bri]

Yep. The reputation is the software that can be changed.

[Rich Davis]

I Was saying. That's a great point. You're right, because the criticism came with people that have since been let go.

[Bri]

Exactly. Yeah. So this could be a great love story like any other one, you know, starts off a little rocky. Just a little bit. Everybody has their challenges, but good for them, you know, it's not that it's not interesting. It is. It's really interesting. I just don't think it matters much.

[Rich Davis]

Hold on, I gotta. I gotta look, I'm sorry. I gotta call up my. My bear schedule. I won't watch a corny video. Don't worry.

[Bri]

Rich loves to look at the schedule game. It's true.

[Rich Davis]

I love a little schedule watching. I'm trying to see what the. Oh, this is gonna be.

[Bri]

Rich loves watching buttcheeks walk by at the gym and NFL schedules.

[Rich Davis]

I'm the guy that, come the football season, I'll be able to tell you who plays who. Like week seven. I don't know why. It's just I'm fascinated with. With looking ahead.

[Bri]

It is important. But you, man, she's week one suckers.

[Rich Davis]

Monday Night football, Vikings at the Bears. So Caleb Williams starts out with, you know, the new system in place, new coaches in place. Week one at home hosting what seems to be JJ McCarthy and the Minnesota Vikings. So that should be a great Monday night matchup. You know, it's funny. You look at all the matchups for Week 1 of the NFL, and because no one has sucked or been awesome yet, you can make a case that every game is awesome.

[Bri]

Do I have to watch every lame announcement video or can I just look it up? No.

[Rich Davis]

From now on, I'm demanding that if you need to know, I can't be.

[Bri]

The only one that's like, yeah, whoopity do. They made some goofy parody. This is terrible. Honestly, I couldn't sit through 30 seconds of either any of those.

[Rich Davis]

Let me see. Who did the Atlanta Falcons play? Let me watch their Mario Kart video. No, you don't want to.

[Bri]

No, honestly, no. I don't want to play Mario Kart. I don't want to watch this video.

[Rich Davis]

All right.

[Bri]

Maybe that's just proof that my attention span is non existent. Thanks to social media.

[Steve Covino]

The Ravens actually had a cool one. They had like, a severance themed one that was like, kind of. Okay, great.

[Bri]

I think by that, by the time it showed me that when I had fallen asleep, I had to nudge him, he had.

[Rich Davis]

He had dozed off. I was like, camino and the Ravens. He's like, but again, we went over.

[Bri]

The top five on over promised our bonus podcast. You could watch it and judge for yourself. That's on fox Sports Radio's YouTube page.

[Rich Davis]

Well, you know, I want to stick in Chicago for a second if that's cool with you, because Today is the 40th anniversary of a big moment for Chicago. You might have heard of this guy, Michael Jordan.

[Bri]

I'm sorry, who?

[Rich Davis]

Miguel Jordan.

[Bri]

I know Mike who runs this. Never heard of him. Mike Jordan. Mike Jordan. I don't know that.

[Rich Davis]

When you were a kid, if you were a kid of the 80s and 90s like us, it was all about the Michaels. Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson, Michael Jordan and every kid in your class. If you.

[Bri]

Oh, I thought you're gonna say Michael Bolton, you big liar. I know Rich is a huge fan.

[Rich Davis]

And Bolton, if you grew up in the 80s or 90s, it is fair to say there were two to three Michaels in every classroom.

[Bri]

Oh, without a doubt. Every.

[Rich Davis]

Mike, you know you had an initial. Oh, yeah, Mike L. Oh, yeah, that's Mike C. My dad's name is Mike. It was the name of the 80s Mike.

[Bri]

He was born in the 50s. But yes, it's a very popular name. Mike, Mike.

[Rich Davis]

Mike Seaver. Your favorite.

[Bri]

Mike Brady. Michael Scott.

[Rich Davis]

So Michael Jordan 40 years ago today was named the NBA rookie of the year. And earlier this week we talked about on our show in the afternoon. I want to rehash this a little bit. We talked about it because we have more time to think about it. Michael Jordan is going to be part of the broadcast team in some capacity when the NBA returns to NBC.

[Bri]

They're calling him special contributor. What does that mean? Well, we have our theories.

[Rich Davis]

Well, we'll get to that. And why, how, where, who, why at this point all these years later, where Michael Jordan has kept almost like a mysterious Persona not on social media, never seemed to be pulled into any media. The last dance was orchestrated by him. He was the puppet master, you know, of what we got to see during COVID last dance, big documentary. But besides that, Michael Jordan sort of been a man of mystery that sits back and collects hundreds of millions of dollars a year in Nike and Jordan money. Why is he doing this? As Covino said, we have our theories and we get to it next right here in for the great Dan Patrick Covino and Rich, Fox sports radio has.

[Steve Covino]

The best sports talk lineup in the nation.

[Bri]

Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app.

[Steve Covino]

Search FSR to listen live.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis.

[Bri]

And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich Davis]

You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio Apple.

[Bri]

Why should you listen to Covino and Rich?

[Rich Davis]

We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world.

[Bri]

We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss.

[Rich Davis]

And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right?

[Bri]

So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say.

[Rich Davis]

I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth.

[Bri]

Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific.

[Rich Davis]

And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kobe no Rich, wherever you get your podcast. And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich.

[Bri]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify, the thing that you refuse to say. Hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that.

[Steve Covino]

May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt important, possible, and step boldly into the best version of yourself, to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well being, and climb your personal mountain.

[Rich Davis]

Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that.

[Steve Covino]

Listen to Made for this mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on everybody's business from Bloomberg Business Week, I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek Smith. Every Friday we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. Guests like Business Week editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull. We'll take you inside the boardrooms, the back rooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick.

[Bri]

Hey, I want to learn about vechain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing.

[Steve Covino]

So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck, this podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best selling author and meat eater founder Stephen Rinella.

[Bri]

I'll correct my kids now and then they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.

[Steve Covino]

So join me starting Tuesday, May 6, where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bri]

I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lodd. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big.

[Rich Davis]

Way, in a very big way.

[Bri]

Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osbourne.

[Rich Davis]

We have this misunderstanding of what this.

[Steve Covino]

Quote unquote drug thing is.

[Bri]

Benny the Butcher, Brent Smith from Shinedown got be real from Cypress Hill, NHL enforcer Riley Cote, Marine Corvette MMA fighter Liz Caramouche.

[Steve Covino]

What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change that.

[Rich Davis]

Stories matter and it brings a face to them.

[Bri]

It makes it real.

[Rich Davis]

It really does.

[Bri]

It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast.

[Rich Davis]

Yo, what's up, buddies? Kavito and Rich in for the great Dan Patrick, Fox Sports Radio. It's Friday, an NBA playoff weekend, a Subway series weekend. Any good fights this weekend or no?

[Bri]

Yeah, me and you. If you don't shut up. If you don't stop about your stupid methods. Juan Soto.

[Rich Davis]

I want to see if I can make a prop bet that Aaron Judge strikes at two or more times tonight. Let me see here.

[Bri]

I'll tell you what, I'm giving Juan Soto no props. I can't wait to hear this guy booed.

[Rich Davis]

Never seen a fan base hate a guy that was on their team one year. Get off his pueblos.

[Bri]

All right, I know we're going to talk about that, but I do want you to know that there's a lot of viral buzz about how the Yankee fans are going to welcome Soto back to the Bronx after he chose the Mets, right? I mean, he had a World Series run with the Yankees. That's why Rich, it does matter. And he chose the Mets.

[Rich Davis]

Get out of here.

[Bri]

But Yankees fans are like, yeah, of course they're going to boo the hell out of this guy. But they're also going to chant. They are trying to plan maybe a silent treatment just to throw them off. But it's going to be a lot of booing and a lot of Grisham's better. You might hear that Grisham's better. I can't wait to see what happens. Can't wait.

[Rich Davis]

I, I really feel like Juan Soto is probably thinking, who cares? He is going to be locked in and zoned in. I do think that you guys are throwing.

[Bri]

How many left?

[Rich Davis]

Are you throwing a lefty tonight? Rodone, you throw any other lefties?

[Bri]

I don't, I don't look ahead like I'm not a schedule watcher.

[Rich Davis]

I don't like, I don't like the Mets against lefties. But anyway, Subway Series, some great NFL news. We got, of course, some NBA playoffs. I said it yesterday, I'm not the guy that says told you so, but I couldn't understand why OKC was favored by 6 yesterday. It was in Denver. You still got Jokic, you got Murray, and now we're going to see a game seven. And I said it yesterday, not that it was by design Covino, but this was a real great test for OKC. If they win at home, Game 7, they're going to feel like they could beat anyone. I know they're not the defending champions, but Denver two years ago, Jokic, arguably the best player in the league. It's him and SGA for mvp. So I think a game seven, if they come up big, yeah, that might be you.

[Bri]

Don't let them start gaining momentum and confidence either.

[Rich Davis]

But then again, then they have to go face Anthony Edwards, Michael Jordan's son, as you call him.

[Bri]

Well, speaking of Jordan's son, I'm not the only guy that says that even their split screen faces sort of match up perfectly. I know, but speaking of mj, Michael Jordan, everybody wanted to be like Mike. Transcended.

[Rich Davis]

Sometimes I dream.

[Bri]

Yeah, me too. He is me. Transcended fandom, meaning it didn't matter if you were a Knicks fan. Everybody loved Michael Jordan. Everybody. Every kid of the 90s. I know I did. Pumpkin pie, haircutted Jersey kid, had Michael Jordan all over my bedroom. Ken Griffey Jr. Certain guys just transcended your alliance or allegiance to any team. And you watched him play, you watched him dunk. You tried to mimic his moves.

[Rich Davis]

You were watching Michael Jordan when Gatorade came in a glass bottle.

[Bri]

That's true. That is true. You know what, though? I'll tell you this. As much as I love the sneakers too. Space Jam was never my jam, to be honest. Never was. And now NBA on NBC. The first question is why? We have our theories and. But it's the anniversary of Michael Jordan, rookie of the year, 1985, 40 years ago.

[Rich Davis]

Before we talk about NBA on NBC, we reminisce a little bit.

[Bri]

Sure.

[Rich Davis]

He is me. Like Mike, I wanna be. I wanna be learned.

[Bri]

Wow, Rich, hitting the high notes.

[Rich Davis]

Damn.

[Bri]

I didn't think you could do it this early, but again, that was 1985. You were rocking Jordan ones. You were watching Back to the Future.

[Rich Davis]

Great Scott.

[Bri]

He probably had a feathered haircut, but yeah, 85, 40 years ago. That's nuts.

[Rich Davis]

You're watching the Goonies, man.

[Bri]

And you know what? I know, I know we're going to talk about Michael Jordan a little bit here. And I like breeze angle on this, to be honest. I really do. Not that I'm surprised. I'm just surprised. I didn't think of it, Bri, that's all.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, but he was, like, shocked that Brie came on.

[Bri]

No, no, no. Brie is intelligent and she's great. I'm just shocked that I didn't think of this. You know, why is he being a special contributor? I mean, he's plenty busy with his race team and everything else, his business moves. And just being Michael Jordan, does he really need to be out there on NBC? But it's also the anniversary, Rich. Yesterday was the anniversary, but this week was also the anniversary. It happened May 15, 2016. Do you know what happened this week? I find it to be a pivotal moment in baseball. For one man's.

[Rich Davis]

Let people think about that.

[Bri]

For one. For one man.

[Rich Davis]

A pivotal moment in 2016 baseball on this day.

[Bri]

Yeah. Something happened. I'll give you a little hint. Something happened yesterday, 2016.

[Steve Covino]

And.

[Bri]

Yeah. Yeah, a little.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, right, there's a hint. Bam.

[Bri]

And I don't think the guy was ever the same after this happened. It was like a career changer, in my opinion.

[Rich Davis]

Speaking of anniversary Kavino trivia.

[Bri]

Yeah. Michael Jordan. It's really interesting, Rich, because like you said, what gives Michael Jordan the mystique that he has is that he played in an era and in a time where social media didn't exist. So we didn't know Michael Jordan's opinions. We didn't know. And again, he was still living under a microscope. Everybody followed the guy, loved the guy, but we didn't know his real thoughts. Did you say a microscope? A microscope. If Danny G. Was here, he'd be grumbling.

[Rich Davis]

Yes, I'm grumbling inside.

[Bri]

I'm giving you some side eye, Sam, But I think that's part of the reason why we still love him the way we do is because we only really knew him as a basketball player and as the guy that wore air Jordans.

[Rich Davis]

In fact, some criticize him for not speaking up on certain issues.

[Bri]

Social issues. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

To the point where, you know, you don't really say much. You can't upset many people.

[Bri]

He was different times.

[Rich Davis]

He loved. In the 80s and 90s, everyone wanted to be like Mike. And with the NBA returning to NBC and round ball rock is making a comeback. I'm glad you brought that up.

[Bri]

I'm glad.

[Rich Davis]

Well, Rich, best basketball.

[Bri]

The record riches. Rich is a bigger John test fan than he is a Michael Jordan fan. But I think part of the NBA on NBC, Michael Jordan angle, John Tesh. And it was also announced that Vince Carter is going to be part of the coverage. Coverage. I think they're really looking for that nostalgia. I don't think Jordan's doing it for the money. I think he's doing it for that fan base and the younger fan base that he still needs. It's like marketing 101 for me. You know, I always use the same example. Rich big brands like Budweiser or Coca Cola, they're not advertising to you, you know, you know what that is. They're advertising for the younger generation. So it's in their brain. Brand recognition. And the NBA is still a young man's game. And a lot of people, a lot of young people watch it. They know of Michael Jordan. They never saw him play, really. They've seen the highlights. They know the shoes. But you know what? Now he's going to be there every once in a while, back in everybody's face, young people's face, reminding everybody that he's the guy.

[Rich Davis]

I think last dance was for some, for a younger generation, I think that might have been the most they learned or knew about Michael Jordan. Watching that documentary during COVID And perhaps just a reminder, I just want to talk about the money for a second because every time I hear someone say, man, I wonder what they're paying this guy. You know, my first thought is I read that he makes about 4 to $500 million a year. We're talking half a billion dollars. Billions and billions and billions. Guy makes 400 plus billion dollars from the Jordan brand and Nike.

[Bri]

Yeah, not too shabby.

[Rich Davis]

Billions and billions and billions and billions and billions. And when you make that much money, even if he got a Tom Brady contract, what did Tom make 300 something million over 10 years? If Michael Jordan made 20, 30 million dollars a year, NBA and NBC, which he's not, if he did, to be a contributor, that would still be like, yeah. What does that mean when you're making. It's like, you know, they always say like a guy like Bezos or.

[Bri]

Yeah, he's not doing it for the money.

[Rich Davis]

Like if they. To stop and pick up $100 bill is a waste of their time. Those type of silly things. You hear how much. You ever see that stat of like how much Bezos makes per minute? Michael Jordan doesn't need the NBA on NBC's Money.

[Bri]

No, I don't. Why is he doing it for free? But yeah, it's not for the money. I think it's again, just to be out there. Might miss it a little bit.

[Rich Davis]

I also think a reminder like, hey world, as, as we all get older and younger generations come into play, I want to remind everyone here, Michael Jordan here, I'm the goat.

[Bri]

But here's the thing. Can I give you another example? He's a busy guy. He doesn't need this. He's got a lot going on. Like we said, endorsements, race, team. He's Michael Jordan. He's a brand. He's a walking brand. Just walking around. Cov.

[Rich Davis]

You ever think he's bored, though? Meaning, like, you know, you love that game.

[Bri]

You might miss the NBA actually being part of it.

[Rich Davis]

You know when you say, like when people say if you win the lottery, would you retire?

[Bri]

He's bored, golfing and living an awesome life. I don't know. That could be. You can't discount that.

[Rich Davis]

I'm just saying imagine if every day you had the ability to go on a yacht, go on a private plane, go wherever you want. You know, think after a while you might be like, all right, maybe I want a little. Meaning maybe I want a little something.

[Bri]

Okay, but let's break this down. Special contributor, very specific. What does it mean? It means he's not going to be there all the time. That's what I think. Yeah. And he's going to do his best and it's going to be interesting, I guess, Bryant Gumbel sort of thing. Meaning I think he didn't do some interviews or some produced sort of package once in a while, but he's not going to be that guy that's there all the time because they're so pumped to have him as part of NBC that it's on his schedule and they're always going to keep him in that Great light because his brand's too big to take any risk. I don't think we're going to see, like, his true feelings on a certain situation. I'm glad you cutting down young players like his style. And I don't think it's going to work for his brand, and I think it's going to be. You remember when Roger Clemens was like, yeah, I'll pitch, but I don't really want to pitch. I really don't have to pitch. No. Like Rocket. But it'll be like home games and we'll, you know, revolve everything around you. So he's like, all right, well, I guess. I think that's what they're going to do for Michael Jordan. Like, hey, look, you're Michael Jordan. You don't need us. But guess what? We really want you. So we're going to do what you want, when you want and how you want, and that's really it. And we'll reap the benefits because we'll see them. And then a whole younger audience also gets to see him.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. I think there's also something to be said about too much to risk with the brand. And look down at your feet right now. At least someone in this room is wearing dunks or Jordans or something, right?

[Bri]

I mean, they got boxes of them at home.

[Rich Davis]

It's a brand that I should say, jeepers, Every.

[Bri]

Where'd you get them? Pay leased.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Bri]

Every shoes that pay lease. So Rich is wearing Crocs, by the way.

[Rich Davis]

I'm not wearing Crocs. I'm wearing low. I'm wearing dunks today. But. But most guys own at least one pair of Jordans. There's too much to risk. So I'm saying you're not going to hear any, like, crazy hot takes from Michael Jordan. It's going to be pretty safe, and he'll be in control. And I believe most are saying they'll likely be prepackaged, like nice segments that nothing live.

[Steve Covino]

Big picture stuff.

[Rich Davis]

Like, big picture stuff.

[Bri]

Think about it this way. It's been 40 years today since he won rookie of the year, right?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, it's been a minute.

[Bri]

1985. Do you know anything about where Michael Jordan stands on, like, current players? No. You barely know how he feels about LeBron, which was never really. Honestly, I think what LeBron wanted it to be. You kind of knew how he felt about Kobe. Right. They had a mutual respect there for sure. But you don't know what he thinks. I think you're going to get that from Vince Carter. That's like his role. I think you're going to get some great insight there. He's not going to come out and try to be like, like Shaq and Charles Barkley. It's not even going to be his role. Special contributor. Very specific. I know Stan on yachts.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Bri]

That's pretty much where he stands these days.

[Rich Davis]

You know, I'll say this on golf courses, right. Sometimes legends have the ability to, quote, pass the torch intentionally or unintentionally. Right. Like if David Letterman. I always remember David Letterman.

[Bri]

Conan.

[Rich Davis]

Conan talks about how there was a moment where Letterman sort of gave him the thumbs up. He went on Conan show when it first started and he was like, ah, you're a, you're a young funny guy. I like this guy Conan. And by doing that, he pretty much told the late night audience, I David Letterman endorse who's top of the heap. Who, who didn't love David Letterman.

[Bri]

King of the hill.

[Rich Davis]

King of the hill.

[Bri]

A number one.

[Rich Davis]

He said to the world. Yeah, I like this young Conan kid. I think Michael Jordan has the ability to really endorse.

[Bri]

And by the way, someone hold on pause also sign of great character because a guy like David Letterman doesn't have to do it. We've been in radio a long time. I don't think anyone has ever been like, hey, Kavino and Rich, you know who has? Colin Cowherd. He's always said nice things about us. Yeah. And it shows you honestly that he's the man. My dad would say I'm kissing ass. Hey, don't be kissing ass. I'm not. It's the truth. But in other places we worked, the big dogs there, they never really acknowledged us at all. So for David Letterman to do that shows a lot about who he is.

[Rich Davis]

And the fact that the great Dan Patrick is like those guys are my fill in. Right. It's the pat on the back or I guess you would say the endorsement. Michael Jordan has the ability to go on NBA on NBC.

[Bri]

Yep.

[Rich Davis]

And say, hey, you know what world. If you ask me, Michael Jordan, you know, the goat that everyone loves. You're wearing my sneakers right now. And oh look, you probably have a power along with my jump man logo. Anthony Edwards or you know, just might be my son.

[Bri]

I love this boy.

[Rich Davis]

What if he's like win Benyama, you know, he's the face. Like whatever he says would carry so much weight.

[Bri]

Oh my God. So much weight.

[Rich Davis]

He can make the next king. Yeah, he's making.

[Bri]

Yeah. I knight him something he really never did for LeBron and Bri has an angle that involves guys like LeBron and why MJ's doing this and we'll get to that and the other anniversary that we teased, we'll get to that next.

[Rich Davis]

All right, CNR in for the great Dan Patrick Fox Sports Radio Be sure to catch the live edition of the.

[Steve Covino]

Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.

[Bri]

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[Steve Covino]

Is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.

[Rich Davis]

You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say. Hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that.

[Steve Covino]

May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself, to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well being and climb your personal mountain.

[Rich Davis]

Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that.

[Steve Covino]

Listen to Made for this mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times, the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on everybody's business. From Bloomberg businessweek, I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek Smith. Every Friday we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. Guests like BusinessWeek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the back rooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick.

[Bri]

Hey, I want to learn about vechain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing.

[Steve Covino]

So listen to everybody's business on the I Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck, this podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best selling author and Meat Eater founder Stephen Rinella.

[Bri]

I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.

[Steve Covino]

So join me starting Tuesday, May 6, where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bri]

I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott and this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big way.

[Rich Davis]

In a very big way.

[Bri]

Real people, real perspectives. This kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.

[Rich Davis]

We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing is.

[Bri]

Benny the Butcher, Brent Smith from Shinedown Got Be real from Cypress Hill, NHL enforcer Riley Cote, Marine Corps vet, MMA.

[Steve Covino]

Fighter Liz Caramouche what we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things.

[Rich Davis]

Stories matter and it brings a face to them.

[Bri]

It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast. Hey, welcome back to the show. Covino and Rich in for Dan Patrick. Always an honor. I was just watching Dan Patrick and I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry.

[Rich Davis]

I'm so jealous of DP's relationship with the sand. Oh, yes. He's going to be in the Happy Gilmore.

[Bri]

Oh, yes. Who are these bozos?

[Rich Davis]

Rest in peace. Morris the Alligator from Happy Gilmore.

[Bri]

Oh, yeah. I've been mourning that all week, Rich.

[Rich Davis]

I know. It's all week we've been really.

[Steve Covino]

Morris the Alligator has gotten more like eulogized than most.

[Rich Davis]

Like Val Kilmer.

[Bri]

No, seriously? Yeah, it's ridiculous. We did talk about that, believe it or not, on our show yesterday.

[Rich Davis]

Alligator bit my handle. Oh, my God.

[Bri]

Oh, yeah. So Normally we're on 2 to 4 on the west, 5 to 7 on the east. Shout out to all the affiliates. Thank you for hanging out with us, Covino and Rich, wherever you are, whoever you are, it means a lot.

[Rich Davis]

And if we're not, if we're not on your affiliate normally, I mean, wouldn't we be a good fit?

[Bri]

Yeah, let's make that happen. What's the hold up here? What are you doing? Live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Remember, after the show, the DP podcast goes up and if you miss any of the show, just search Covino and Rich where you get your podcasts. And Saturday morning, tomorrow morning, when I'm celebrating the Yankees win, when I'm celebrating the Knicks, Danny G has our best of the week dropping. So be sure to check that out. The best of the week drops manana. Follow rate and review. Search Covino and Rich again. I'm Steve Covino. That is Rich Davis.

[Rich Davis]

I feel like I'm gonna drop some blue and orange donuts at your house tomorrow.

[Bri]

Sounds good.

[Rich Davis]

Double doozy. Get you fat and Mets colors. Perfect.

[Bri]

I'm doing the first part on my own. I stuffed my face yesterday. Oh, and I woke up today. Did you mention that there's a new Mexican place in the area? And I tried it out per Spot's recommendation and I'm like, I don't know. I turned a random Thursday into a fiesta. And I must be good, right? Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

They call them taquito cavino. Yeah.

[Bri]

It's ridiculous. So I gained 30 pounds yesterday, but I'm happy to be here.

[Rich Davis]

What's your fun fact about Mexican restaurants? You love to say, I don't know what, for every four chips you have, it's one tortilla. You have to realize that's like one.

[Bri]

Tortillas or taco tortillas, though. Yeah. But for every four chips, man. And I must have had about 400 chips yesterday and 40 tortillas. So anyway, Sam is here, Bri is here. Spot on the videos at Covino and Rich, fox Sports Radio's YouTube channel. Check it out. And before we talk about the other anniversary, because there's another anniversary this week that involves a moment in baseball. Yeah. That changed someone's career. It's also. Today is also the 40th anniversary of Michael Jordan's Rookie of the Year, 1985. And we've been posing a question all week. Well, what does special contributor mean? Why is he now doing NBA on NBC? Yeah. What's the.

[Rich Davis]

What's the motive?

[Bri]

Hey, Bri, what's your theory on it? Because I do find it really interesting, Bri, super producing. What are your thoughts?

[Steve Covino]

I was just thinking that it's just a different audience now. It's a whole different generation now. Right.

[Rich Davis]

That, that. And you had a thought about LeBron James.

[Steve Covino]

LeBron has a podcast, Mind the game with Steve Nash, who I obviously love. But it's just. It's just a different type of, you know, media. Right. Like, you can compare the two. Like, okay, LeBron has this podcast, and now MJ's gonna be on, like, huge network TV.

[Bri]

So Michael Jordan, still so competitive and wants to remind every generation that he's still the guy because he's seeing all these other players making moves after basketball, and they all have their podcast. And LeBron James, you know, how many years does he have left? Maybe he wants to step in the booth and follow the Tom Brady's of the world and the other goats of the world that do it. Michael Jordan's like, nah, I'm the dude. I'm doing NBA on NBC.

[Rich Davis]

I hate to say it.

[Bri]

He still may be that competitive.

[Rich Davis]

I hate to say it, but the same way the Kelsey brothers, because of the popularity of Taylor Swift and everything, they decided to do a podcast immediately. It was like, number one, there's a million NBA podcasts. But if Michael Jordan decided to do one or just enter the media world, the reality is, guess what? It would be Covino number one. Number one, it's Michael Jordan. So maybe there is a competitive nature that goes even that far where it's like, yo, everyone else got a podcast or a show.

[Bri]

Maybe special contributor really means blocking LeBron James and, you know, entering that world a little bit.

[Rich Davis]

We have more CNR and for Dan Patrick next.

[Bri]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Bri]

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[Steve Covino]

I just answered a few questions online and Talkspace matched me with a therapist. We meet when it's convenient for me and I can message her anytime. It was so easy to set up and they accept Tricare. Therapy was going so well, my husband and I started seeing a couple's therapist through Talkspace too.

[Bri]

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[Steve Covino]

A lot of times, big economic forces show up in our lives in small ways. Four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. Small but important ways from tech billionaires to the bond market to, yeah, banana pudding. If it's happening in business, our new podcast is on it. I'm Max Chafton. And I'm Stacey Vanek Smith. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Made for this Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well being and then climb that mountain.

[Rich Davis]

You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say. Hey, this is my mountain. This is the structure.

[Steve Covino]

Listen to Made for this mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich Davis]

I think it's a sign of great mental health to acknowledge the dark wolf inside you.

[Steve Covino]

It's Mental Health Awareness Month and on a recent episode of the one you feed, Josh Radner from How I Met yout Mother joins us to talk about fame, self acceptance, aging, and finding peace in discomfort.

[Bri]

That is the mercy of time. That time it is a healer.

[Steve Covino]

To hear this and more on healing, identity, and the wisdom of slowing down, open your free iHeartRadio app. Search 1. You feed and listen now. Why is a soap opera Western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6, where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart podcast.