Hour 2 – Callers Have Questions, Mike Greenberg

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: Callers Have Questions, Mike Greenberg

Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick, with “the Danettes”
Guest: Mike Greenberg

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Episode Theme

Hour two of The Dan Patrick Show delivers a lively mix of sports talk, listener calls, and interview banter—highlighted by ESPN's Mike Greenberg discussing his new book Got Your Legends. Key topics include MLB playoffs, the Bengals trade for Joe Flacco, coaching controversies, and Greenberg’s deep dive into sports “Mount Rushmores.” The segment blends statistics, personal stories, and trademark humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. MLB Playoff Rundown, Weather, and Polls

• [02:45] Dan covers scheduled MLB playoff games and weather updates.
• Yankees & Aaron Judge: Yankees stave off elimination thanks to Judge’s heroics; Mariners lead their series.
• Trade News: Bengals acquire Joe Flacco from the Browns, prompting discussion about Cincinnati's playoff prospects.
• Jimmy Rollins Hall of Fame Debate: The crew debates Rollins’ Hall credentials, noting 2,455 hits, MVP, and playoff performance.
• Poll Question Results:
  • Most “Bathroom Can Wait” (BCW) players: Ohtani leads with 46%.
  • Bengals playoff odds post-Flacco: 73% think no playoffs.

"Joe Flacco is an upgrade. Not, not a big upgrade at this stage of his career. But still... Cincinnati certainly becomes more threatening." – Dan Patrick [03:40]

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2. Listener Calls: Football Safety, Fines, and Emotional Coaching

• QB Tackling Injuries: Listeners discuss quarterbacks risking injury while attempting tackles (Cam Newton, Dak Prescott, Andrew Luck, Patrick Mahomes).
• Coaching Fines:
  • Jerry Jones fined $250,000; Jonathan Gannon fined $100,000 for sideline altercations.
  • Emotional stress and "teaching moments" for NFL head coaches explored (Woody Hayes, Bob Knight, Lou Holtz).
• Generational Differences in Coaching:
  • Dan reflects on a personal high school coach story—being benched for questioning the coach’s decision, illustrating evolving expectations about communication and respect.
  • The Danettes discuss how today’s athletes and coaches navigate authority.

"I never ever would speak to my coaches. That was the only time. But it was like in the moment, I'm going, why?" – Dan Patrick [14:17]

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3. Uplifting Callers and Award Picks

• [14:59] A caller shares that the show brings happiness to his wife battling cancer.
• ROTY & DPOY Picks: Dan names Abdul Carter the frontrunner for Defensive Rookie of the Year, notes a shallow field.

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4. Food Tips & Teasers

• Callers from South Bend share local snack recommendations ahead of Dan’s trip.

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5. Interview: Mike Greenberg on Got Your Legends

A. Opening Banter: Nate Bargatze Show

• Greenberg opens by confirming he saw Dan Patrick at a Nate Bargatze comedy show in NY, discussing comedic etiquette and laughing loudly at shows.
• Memorable Moment: Greenberg’s wife chides him for “laughing too loudly” at a comedy show.

  "I really think the comedian probably likes it when you laugh loudly." – Mike Greenberg [25:00]

B. Genesis and Structure of the Book

• Greenberg explains the evolution of his book ideas with research partner Hembo, from "Got Your Number" (athletes and jersey numbers) to the new book, which ranks every major pro sports franchise and assembles a “Mount Rushmore” for each.
• The book ranks all 124 franchises across NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL.

"With his research, there's a ton. You will learn a ton about athletes you may not know... some played decades and in some cases, even a century ago." – Mike Greenberg [29:52]

C. Debates, Data, and Frustrations

• Classic sports debates discussed (Pete Rose Hall of Fame, Michael Jordan vs. LeBron):

  "If there was one game of basketball being played and my life depended upon the outcome, I would pick Michael Jordan first." – Mike Greenberg [32:23]

• How research and data underpin every choice in the book, but room for subjectivity remains.

D. Toughest Mount Rushmores

• Yankees are the toughest (and easiest); notable omissions (e.g., Rivera, Jeter) could constitute a Rushmore elsewhere.
• Broadcasters like Vin Scully and Bob Uecker included on some teams’ monuments, but others (e.g., Jack Buck) were “painful” omissions.

E. Greenberg’s Jets Fandom & Broadcasting Philosophy

• Dan and Greenberg compare how they handle fandom:
  • On straight shows (e.g., SportsCenter/Sunday Countdown), objectivity rules.
  • On personality-based shows (Mike and Mike, Get Up), Greenberg embraces his Jets suffering.
• The origin of Greenberg being “outed” as a Jets fan by Robin Roberts.

  "When you're hosting a show like SportsCenter... No one but my mother is watching because they want to hear what I have to say." – Mike Greenberg [38:09]

F. Fun Segment: Fritzy’s “Get Up” Tease

• Todd Fritz reads an extended, pun-laden tease as if opening Greenberg’s show.

  "It's time to get up... It's not wacko for the Bengals to buy into Flacco." – Todd Fritz [41:41]

• Greeny applauds, jokes he’ll borrow Fritzy’s puns, and highlights the importance of always including the Cowboys in sports teases.

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6. Favorites & Callbacks

• Mention of notoriously awkward interviews (Debo Samuel, Willie Mays).
• Dan reiterates he no longer roots for the Bengals or Reds as a professional broadcaster—he roots for great stories.

"America doesn't need to hear how much I love a team or don't love a team. I just didn't want to put that bias in." – Dan Patrick [52:19]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Flacco-to-Bengals:
  "Maybe Russell Wilson, maybe a big swing for Kirk Cousins. Joe Flacco is an upgrade... Cincinnati certainly becomes more threatening." – Dan Patrick [03:40]
• On the weight of coaching errors:
  “He might not be coaching for the Cardinals next year... They found a way to lose that game. And he knows he’s coaching for his job.” – Dan Patrick [11:41]
• Greenberg on data for sports debate:
  "Every single one of them is based, for the most part, on the research that Hembo does, which, on some level, is almost indisputable." – Mike Greenberg [33:44]
• Mount Rushmore logic:
  "The people you’re leaving off [the Yankees] would probably be better than the Mount Rushmore of almost any other team in sports." – Mike Greenberg [34:15]
• On letting go of fandom:
  "No, I would root for the fan base in Cincinnati, but I don’t have any loyalty to the Bengals or the Reds." – Dan Patrick [52:19]
• Classic sports arguments:
  "The Michael vs. LeBron thing now is sort of this generation's debate." – Mike Greenberg [31:45]
• Humorous Get Up Tease:
  "It's not wacko for the Bengals to buy into Flacco. It's time to get up." – Todd Fritz [41:41]

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Timestamps for Segments

• [02:45-04:59] MLB round-up, Jimmy Rollins debate, Bengals/Flacco trade reaction
• [05:34-11:41] Listener calls: QBs making tackles, NFL coaching fines, generational coaching shifts
• [14:59-16:45] Inspirational caller; Defensive Rookie of the Year picks; more listener calls
• [24:15-42:24]
  • [24:15-27:07] Comedy show etiquette & personal stories
  • [27:07-34:15] Book genesis, structuring debates, rankings
  • [34:15-37:22] Painful omissions, franchise Mount Rushmores
  • [37:22-40:51] On Jets fandom and sports objectivity
  • [41:03-41:48] Fritzy’s “Get Up” tease/pun showcase

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Tone and Style

• The episode maintains the show’s signature loose, bantering tone—equal parts analytical, personal, and irreverent.
• The rapport between Dan, the Danettes, Greenberg, and the callers keeps the discussion engaging and accessible, whether critiquing all-time great athletes or recounting youthful coaching transgressions.

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For First-Time Listeners

• This hour offers a great snapshot of the show’s style: topical but timeless debates, friendly arguments, lots of personality, and honest engagement with callers and guests alike.
• Greenberg’s book segment, with its blend of stats and nostalgia, will appeal to fans of sports history and argument alike.
• Listener calls are treated with both thoughtful insight and light-hearted warmth.

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Next Up: Jimmy Rollins joins in hour three to analyze the MLB playoffs and reflect on his own legacy in the game.

Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It's hour two on this Wednesday. Dan and the Dan. That's Dan Patrick show. And Mike Greenberg will stop by. Greeny will stop by in about 20 minutes from now. Got baseball this afternoon and tonight checking the weather forecast in Detroit. They had their game delayed yesterday, but it looks like clear sailing in Detroit. Also Chicago, also New York and Los Angeles. So it's 3:08-50870, 890-8 Eastern Time. Your playoff baseball. Aaron Judge carries the Yankees to a 96 win as they stave off elimination. The Mariners are up 21 in their series against the Tigers. Bengals acquire Joe Flacco from the Browns. Still not sure why the Browns would help out the Bengals in that situation. Because they did help out the Bengals. Because you know what, what are the other Bengal options that they would have? Maybe Russell Wilson, maybe a big swing for Kirk Cousins. Joe Flacco is an upgrade. Not, not a big upgrade at this stage of his career. But still, if you got a guy, if you protect him, have him in the pocket and you have receivers, then Cincinnati certainly becomes more threatening. Well, they have to be more threatening than they have been. 877 3DP show operator Tyler sitting by. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that is our streaming partner and from the crew that brought you the office comes a new comedy of underdogs with major issues. The paper streaming now only on Peacock. We will upgrade and update our poll questions. And Jimmy Rollins, former mvp. Is Jimmy Rollins borderline Hall of Famer? I didn't really look at his numbers and then Todd said, Jimmy Rollins going to join us. I knew he won an MVP and a three time all Star. Don't know what else he has as far as credentials. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

Yeah, I've got that three, three time all star, one mvp. He never finished top five, another mvp, a bunch of gold Gloves. Very good playoff numbers. It feels like unlikely.

[Dan Patrick]

I would say all very good. Yeah, okay.

[Paulie]

There was a time though he was the guy. Short period of time.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, one year he was the guy. How many career hits?

[Paulie]

2,455.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right. I'd say you got somebody's attention, I would think. I don't know. What, what's the best. He's finished. Is he still on the ballot? The hall of Fame ballot? I'd be curious about that. While you look at that. Seaton, would you give me the poll results from the first hour and our poll question for hour two. Most BCW in sports.

[Dr. J]

Well.

[Dan Patrick]

Or just baseball. Judge Ohtani, Riley, Raleigh, other. Right now, Ohtani has about 46% of that vote. Raleigh and Judge are splitting about 25%. And that's a Bathroom can wait. Yeah, that's bathroom can wait. We also have this one from Marvin. After Joe. The Joe Flacco trade. What should the realistic expectations of the Bengals be? It's a division title wild card, AFC championship game or no playoffs. Right now, no playoffs. Have 73% of that vote. Okay. All right, I'm gonna look at the glass. Half full would show Flacco. Yes. Paulie.

[Paulie]

20, 25 hall of Fame voting. Jimmy Rollins got 71 votes. That's 18%. You need to be on 75% of the ballots to get in.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but you have to have a certain number of votes to stay on the ballot. Yes, it did. I don't know. Is he staying on the ballot?

[Paulie]

Checking.

[Dan Patrick]

Because that will be the key. Okay. All right, we'll get to some phone calls here. Mentioned the baseball last night. Cal, Raleigh, homeward with the M's over the Tigers. And Aaron Judge, pretty impressive so far in that series. And hit a bomb. And this is what it sounded like last night.

[Mike Greenberg]

There's the pitch. High fly ball, deep left field, down the left field line.

[Caller]

It is off the fair pole. Pay now, pay now, pay now.

[Todd Fritz]

Three run homer, Aaron Judge.

[Mike Greenberg]

This game is tied. It's six.

[Dan Patrick]

Six. Okay, some enthusiasm from our favorite Yankee broadcaster, Dave Sims.

[Todd Fritz]

Playing to the crowd.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. He's playing to his crowd. His fans.

[Mike Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

Yankee fans are tuning in. They want to hear the excitement of the big home run.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Mike Greenberg]

We did it.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Chris in Syracuse. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Hey, thanks, Dan. Hey, I wanted to mention a couple things. Off of quarterbacks making tackles yesterday, Paul mentioned that King Newton's career was really affected by a tackle that he made where he got injured. And I find that interesting that in that one super bowl, that ball's on the ground and he wanted to have nothing to do with it. And I know it's somewhat reactionary, But I think QBs really need to pick their spots when they tackle. Like Dak in the opener this year against Philadelphia, made that great diving tackle that saved a touchdown. And that was a close game at the time. And if CD had made a couple of those plays at the end of the game, that could have been the difference between winning and losing.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I'm okay if you're gonna make a swipe tackle at somebody's foot like Dak did. I just don't want you being like Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck became a linebacker every time, and he admitted that he'd throw an interception. He'd be so angry that he wanted to make that tackle. You can't. And Mahomes was trying to make, you know, kind of a swipe tackle, and he did alter the, the defender, you know, a little bit. But you go low in that situation. But, you know, I have no problem if my quarterback is going to stay out of the, out of the fray, because the thing that I'm worried about is not the tackle you're going to make, it's every one of those defenders who get a free shot at you. Because now you're not a quarterback, you're just a regular player. And that's when you get blasted. Let's see. Row in Missouri. Hi, Roe. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. Dan at. How are you? I'm first time caller. I'm really excited. Longtime listener. 410, 105 pounds. My question is, what do you think Jerry Jones Fine. Is going to be? You know, that's what he's going to get, right?

[Dan Patrick]

$250,000.

[Caller]

Okay, I missed that. I'm sorry. And then I had one other question, a comment. You know, you were talking about the fist pump. You go in for the fist pump, the handshake. I'm a little girl, little young woman, whatever, and I always go in for the hard handshake.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, well, I'll remember that, Roe, when I see you and I go, okay, I'm supposed to give you a firm handshake. Thank you, Ro. I appreciate that. Yeah. Jerry Jones, $250,000. Jonathan Gannon got $100,000 for his altercation on the sidelines. Grant in Oregon. Hey, Grant, what's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, good morning, dan. First time caller. 61215. Hey, just wanted to talk a little bit more about that Jonathan Gannon situation. Obviously, I don't think it's right for him to ever put his hands on any sort of a player, but I think it does reflect a little bit of the emotion and the, just the stress that's put on, especially an NFL head coach where those situations like that matter in his coaching life in the NFL and that kind of game determines whether or not he continues as a head coach in the NFL.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I get it. You know, I've seen some of the great coaches in history I mean, Woody Hayes, at the end of his career was trying to take on a defender who was at. Charlie Bauman. The interception, Clemson in a bowl game. Lou Holtz has gone onto the field. Bill Cowers got. I mean, these coaches, they. They preach, you know, having some kind of decorum, you know, keep your cool. You know, don't. Bob Knight would do that all the time, and he was the worst offender with it. Yeah. And I have no problem with the NFL or the Cardinals fining him $100,000. I mean, he knew he did something wrong. That's why he, the day before apologized, because it didn't look good. Yes, Todd.

[Todd Fritz]

Now, is that supposed to be some kind of teaching moment? I know you lose. You can't analyze it too much in the moment you have your emotions or in the back of your mind, like, it's that kind of play that's going to get me fired. I got my family here. People do stupid things like that. You know how much of that sometimes you never know in the back recesses of your mind if the season's not going well, and it's more selfish. It's certainly not a teaching moment to get in someone's face like that and touch them. Well, they're less likely to do it because you put your hands on them.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I don't think that you're. That certainly wasn't a teaching moment for him. I mean, it can be, but, you know, you have to have your act together. And plus, he's coaching for the Cardinals. He might not be coaching for the Cardinals next year. And every one of these games, they have that game. There's no way they can lose that game until they found a way to lose that game. And he's probably fed up with it, and he knows he's coaching for his job.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paul, I disagree a little bit. I think it's. I liked Jonathan Gannon going over to yell at his player. This guy purposely dropped the ball before the goal line. If he doesn't get physical, I'm fine with Jonathan Gannon airing him out in person, right there on the sidelines in front of everybody, right up to the point where he put his hands on him.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Having been a person who's been yelled at, I mean, it's embarrassing because everybody's watching. I was sent to the showers in the first half of a basketball game when I was in high school because we were killing Kings Mill. Killing him. And my dad had traveled all night next day to get to the game, and all of a sudden the coach says, hey, I'm going to put in this second string. And I think I said, why? And then my coach told me to shower, so I had to walk. I had to walk of shame in the first half. So I made it seem like my contact lens came out and that I was just going. And then I'm down in the locker room at halftime, and I'm thinking, God, this is embarrassing. And so I had to eat it because I talked back to my coach and I didn't. He didn't yell at me or, you know, he embarrassed me. But it taught me a lesson. I mean, it was a great moment of learning, even though I didn't learn anything until later when I analyzed it. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

So you guys were up big. You were a starter, and he just was rotating in the backups because it was a blowout and you wanted more time.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was very judicial when it came to giving playing time. And. And, you know, I'm. I'm there. I'm killing. Kings Mill, their arrival. I've got it. I want to put up some big numbers. My dad flown cross country. And then I get there, I think he sits down and we have a timeout, and I end up getting pulled from the game. Yes, Tom, why.

[Todd Fritz]

Saying why that disrespectful? Is that just a different era that I, you know, some people can't relate to today's kids?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yes. That's.

[Todd Fritz]

How dare you demand an explanation from me, the coaches, to what you. This is the decision. You don't ask why.

[Dan Patrick]

I never. I never ever would speak to my coaches. That was the only time. But it was like in the moment, I'm going, why? Like, why. Why aren't we supposed to be in there and dominating and. But, you know, our coach was saying, I want to play the other guys. I was being selfish. Yes, Marvin.

[Mike Greenberg]

That's the same generation who answers because I said so. That's that generation.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. My generation. I've used that before with my kids. Well, why. You know, you didn't go to school. You didn't study very. Because I said so. That's it. Let's see Tommy in the outer Banks. Hi, Tommy. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Dan and the Dan, thank you so much for taking our call. I don't know how much you're or you feel you're appreciated. I know you put a lot of work into what you do. A lot of show prep, a lot of meetings, all hours of the day, and people only hear just a few hours of what you do, but I know that a lot more goes into it and you've made my wife so much happier with what you're doing. She's enduring endometrial and cervical cancer and going through radiation and chemo and she really can't speak on the phone, but wanted me to call in regards to, I guess you were talking about DraftKings and the offensive Rookie of the Year, as if we're both Jags fans and hopefully you'll lean that way. Do you have any opinions on Defensive Rookie of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, Tommy, my best your wife. I'm glad that if we can put a smile on her face, Abdul Carter is the Defensive Rookie of the Year right now and Jihad Campbell is second. And so I think Abdul Carter by default. I don't know if anybody's really distinguished themselves, but Abdul Carter and you play for the Giants. Giants have a Thursday night game against the Eagles, so you get a standalone game against that Eagle, the weapons that they have. Yeah, Paulie.

[Mike Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Abdul Carter, like you said, it's kind of default. He's playing a lot. Not a lot of other rookies making any defensive impact yet.

[Dan Patrick]

And I don't know about Defensive Player of the Year. I don't. I haven't really explored that, but I don't. I haven't seen any odds for that. We'll see if DraftKings has that. Dustin in South Bend hi, Dustin. What's on your mind? Hello.

[Caller]

Just a couple snack suggestions while you guys are in town. Yesterday's in Granger and I'd also tell you Testin's over in Laporte ball about 20 minutes from the stadium.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Well, thank you, Dustin. Getting some nice suggestions from the fans from South Bend. We'll be out there next Thursday and Friday. Let's take a break. Mike Greenberg has a book, new book, and we'll talk to him. Been a while since we've chatted with Greenie. Also in an hour from now, Jimmy Rollins, he's doing baseball for tbs. The former Philly great as the Phillies trying to stave off getting eliminated, getting swept. And boy, you can point fingers at the top of the lineup. They Trey Turner, Bryce Harper, Schwarber. I think they have three hits and three for 21. Maybe something like that. But give credit to the Dodgers starting pitching. It's been great. We'll take a break. Greenie joins us next here. Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.

[Dr. J]

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[Mike Greenberg]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Ebon]

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[Snax]

What's up everybody? This is Snax from the Trap Nerds podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long.

[Dan Patrick]

Kicking off this month I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror.

[Mike Greenberg]

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[Snax]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Snax]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Snax]

Will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale. Jason versus Freddy, Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October. We're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Trapper Nurse Podcast from the Black Effect podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Nicole Garcia]

It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia and on Burn Sage Burn Bridges we aim to explore that culture.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly like very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric that this is something we've been doing for like hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence.

[Nicole Garcia]

That's Sierra Teller Ornelas, who with Rutherford Falls became the first Native showrunner in television history. On the podcast Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story along with other Native stories such as the creation of the first Native Comic Con or the importance of Reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage, Burn bridges on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. J]

But the humility in knowing that life is this classroom that we should never graduate from is what is going to keep you growing. And that's all that matters. World Mental Health Day is around the corner and on my podcast just heal with Dr. J, I dive into what it really means to care for your mind, body and spirit. From breaking generational patterns to building emotional capacity, healing is a journey and wholeness is the destination.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm gonna walk away feeling very healed.

[Mike Greenberg]

And feeling like, yes, I'm gonna continue my healing journey and I'm gonna get.

[Ebon]

Some keys to from you.

[Dr. J]

Listen to Just Hill with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Say good morning. Those watching on Peacock are streaming partner. Download the app if you haven't done so. If you would like to watch this mess unfold every single morning, Monday through Friday for three hours, all 13 cameras that are involved. 877-3-DP show. We'll update our poll results. Jimmy Rollins will recap the baseball from yesterday and he's in Los Angeles, so he'll get us ready for the Phillies and the Dodgers. So you got all four games, all four series coming up today and tonight he's Mike Greenberg. He is ESPN's host of get up, also Sunday NFL Countdown and has a new book out called Got yout Legends ranking America's sports franchises and their most iconic figures. He collaborated with his great producer Hembo and he's ranking the NFL, NBA baseball, NHL franchises from best to worst and a Mount Rushmore of legends for each. The book got your legends. Greeny. Good to talk to you again, Dan. You come up with the idea about this?

[Mike Greenberg]

Well, I'll tell you all about the book in a second. But first and foremost, it is always a thrill and an honor for me to be on here with you and the guys. So hello to everybody. And second, I need you to settle a bet for me. Were you at the Nate Bargazi concert at Madison Square Garden two weeks ago?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Mike Greenberg]

Okay. I thought so. So I was sitting there and someone walked by and I said, I'm 99% sure that's Dan Patrick. And stay said, go find, you know, go say hello. And I said, I will. And I got up and I couldn't find you. You had walked in and you kind of walked. You made like a turn. You went around a curve. I don't know where you went. And then I couldn't find you. And the people I was with said, that wasn't Dan Patrick. And you don't know that. If you went over to talk to Dan Patrick, you wouldn't even know who you were. And I said, I guarantee you Dan Patrick would know who I was. I'm going to find him. And I spent, I was distracted through the entire Jimmy Fallon portion of the evening trying to find you. And I never did again. So I am now confirming on the record that was indeed you.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, it was. Went with my family, had a great time and his dad was great up there. Jimmy Fallon was great up there. And I had not seen Nate. I'd seen his stand up on Netflix. And my daughter's the one who said, dad, you'll love him because it's just everyday situations that he's talking about that we can all relate to. But he does it in, you know, an impressive way. And I met him backstage afterwards and you see Chris Rock there. Well, that's testament to how good you are that Chris is coming out to watch you perform.

[Mike Greenberg]

So when Jimmy Fallon is opening for you, you know that you've, you know, something. And we saw him, we had friends who had, had been turned on to him and we, so we went to see him at Radio City maybe a year and a half or so ago before he blew up so big that he's now hosting the Emmys and all of that. And it sort of led to an interesting debate which is, can you laugh too loudly at a comedy show? My wife yelled at me. Here's another of those that I was laughing too loudly. And I said, you know, honey, I, I really think the comedian probably likes it when you laugh loudly. I sort of the idea of the entire exercise. So I got, I got, I got chastened for laughing too much at the Nate Bargazzi concert.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'm sure Nate would be fine. Although there are times when you can hear a stand up act and you can hear a laughter that might be annoying.

[Mike Greenberg]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Like there's now, I don't know if, if it was hype, I don't know how your laugh is, but if it's high pitched or something, then he probably would have singled you out and made fun of you.

[Mike Greenberg]

Yeah, I was not close enough to the stage at Radio City that he would have, he would have heard it. She was convinced I was drowning him out for the people around us. Anyway, I'm glad that we settled that. Thank you for taking care of that for me. How's everything else going?

[Dan Patrick]

Everything's spectacular. So you dive into this topic. Not an easy topic to kind of. Well, it's not one topic, it's a variety of them. But when did you decide that? All right, America needs this.

[Mike Greenberg]

So I had this idea. It's the third book that we've done, Hambo and I, so if you know Himbo, his research is ridiculous. Like he is whatever the geniuses are at NASA that like put are eventually going to put a man on Jupiter. That's what Himbo is to sports research. And during COVID I had this idea. It just came up from an idle conversation we were having with someone you'll remember, Pete McConville from ESPN, who's one of the few people who has been around as long as you and I and about which players own Each individual numbers, like the uniform numbers, like 23, clearly belongs to Michael Jordan and 99 belongs to Wayne Gretzky. But how about all these other numbers? Who owns them? And I thought that might make an interesting book. So we did a book called Got yout Number, in which we assigned that who owns every number from 1 to 100. And candidly, it sold better than the publisher expected it to. So they said, come up with another idea. So then I figured, I've been doing sports talk for 30 years. So we came up with a book. The second one was called Got yout Answers, in which we picked the 100 best sports debate topics and sort of using his research, answered them. And that also did well. So we had another idea. Hembo said, let's do the Mount Rushmores. You and I have both done. And so has every sports fan. And frankly, it goes beyond sports. Watch the Mount Rushmore of this. What's the Mount Rushmore of rock guitarists? What's the Mount Rushmore of stand up comedians? The Mount Rushmore of this or that or the other. So we decided, using his research, to come up with the Mount Rushmore of every team in the four sports, as you just said, the NFL, the NBA, the NHL and Major League Baseball. And so we chose those. And then it was my job to write it. The way we do the books is he does the research and then I do the writing. I sat down to write it and I realized we don't really have a construct for how we're going to lay them out. So do we just do them by sport? Do we do them alphabetically? Neither of those. None of the ideas I had seemed interesting. So we said, well, hell with it. Let's just rank all of the teams from, you know, the best one to the bottom one. So the best one is the Yankees. And some of the teams that have just come into existence are down at the bottom and using winning percentage and championships and all sorts of other things. So the book sort of has two separate areas for debate, which is, did you agree with the people that we chose to be the Mount Rushmores of literally every team? And then do you agree with the way that we ranked them? And whether you agree or disagree, hopefully it'll be fun to read. And what I like the most about it, because I, Dan, grew up reading a ton of sports history books. I read a lot about sports history and I feel like that's sort of a lost art, if indeed that is an art. Not enough of that going on. So there's a ton of sports history in it. There's a ton. With his research, there's a ton. You will learn a ton about athletes you may not know a whole lot about because some of them are contemporary, but some of them are played decades and in some cases, even a century ago. So hopefully, whether you agree or disagree, you'll learn some stuff about some of the great athletes of all time.

[Dan Patrick]

What's the sports debate that leaves you frustrated?

[Mike Greenberg]

Well, I mean, the contemporary ones, like the. The what. What my mind goes to when you ask me that question are what are the go tos that. Those of us who did sports talk that depended on phone calls, which is what I used to do before I came to espn. I started out and Ray, you were working your way up, like, as a TV guy and CNN and ESPN and SportsCenter and everything. I came a different route. I came from sort of the traditional, you know, call this number right now and let's have this argument. So I go back to the ones that were just a. Like, on a slow day, you just throw this question out and they would do your show for you. So the big One in the 90s was, does Pete Rose belong in the hall of Fame or not? So I don't know if it frustrates me, but it's. It's a question that people are so divided on. The people on either side of it feel so strongly and passionately about their respective sides. And this, of course, was long before Pete died. So it was. It was a really good, fun, easy debate to throw out there. The Michael versus LeBron thing now, I guess, is sort of this generation's debate. And I can tell you that, like, my son is a crazy basketball fan. Grew up playing nothing but basketball. He's 22, and he never stops telling me that LeBron is the greatest player of all time. And, you know, it makes me crazy, but you just had to have seen it. I'm. I'm. I will forever be a Michael guy. I remember sitting with you in the bowels of the old Chicago Stadium when I was covering those Bulls teams because I worked locally in Chicago. And you would be in town to cover the finals and you would. You'll remember hanging out with, like, Terry Boers and Jesse Rogers, all those guys you used to hang out with, and those were my friends. And so you were there, and I was like, wow, Dan Patrick is here. And, you know, I would just sit at the table and listen. Anyway, the point is, I always tell younger people, if you didn't watch Michael Jordan play, then I can Understand why you don't know the answer to this question, but maybe the best way I can explain it is if there was one game of basketball being played and my life depended upon the outcome, I would pick Michael Jordan first, and then I would make whatever plans you want to make for the extended future because he was going to find a way to win better than anyone else would. So, anyway, those are the two that jump to my mind when you ask the question. I don't know if it's exactly what you meant, but that's sort of where my head went.

[Dan Patrick]

But do you provide information? Does Hembo provide information so you can win your sports debates?

[Mike Greenberg]

100%. That's the idea here, is that our. Our debates, particularly in the second book and in this one as well, every argument we make is based on all of this data. I mean, in this day and age, there was so much data and information that's available inside and outside of sports that we're not. We're not really debating. We're telling you the data says these four people are the best, or the data says this guy was the best at this or that. Now, as you and I both know, no matter how old you are, I think younger people have a greater appreciation of data now than. Than people our age. But at the same time, no one, I don't think anyone thinks that the numbers tell the entire story. You know, there's a science to it, and that's really what is provided in the book. Hopefully the writing adds a little bit of the art to it because in the judgment of anything, there's both of those. But yes, every single argument that we make in all three of the books, and especially this one, because we are literally talking about four people from 124 different teams, every single one of them is based, for the most part on the research that Hembo does, which on some level is almost indisputable.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to Mike Greenberg, he has a new book out. It's called Got yout Legends Ranking America's sports franchises and their most iconic figures. Give me the team that was the toughest to come up with. It's Mount Rushmore.

[Mike Greenberg]

Well, the toughest and easiest at the same time probably was the top team, which is the Yankees, which is to say when you do the Mount Rushmore of the Yankees, the people you're leaving off, if you pick the top four people that you're leaving off, they would probably be better than the Mount Rushmore of almost any other team in sports. So for. I'll just tell you the four People not on the Yankees, Mount Rushmore are the only player ever unanimously elected to the hall of Fame, which is Mariana Rivera, the face of the sport for two decades, which is Derek Jeter, the player who won the most World Series of any in history, which is Yogi Berra, and the most infamous, notorious, significant, important owner in sports for a generation, which is George Steinbrenner. So that foursome would probably be almost as good as just about once you get past the Lakers and a few of the others, that would probably be better than the Mount Rushmore of any other team. But the Yankees had Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle on this, so there's just no. In my opinion, there's no debating those. So that was. It was both. It was painful to leave the people off that we left off, but it was easy to choose. I'll tell you what was hard, because we did include some announcers, like Vin Scully is on the Dodgers, Mount Rushmore. Bob Ucher is on the Milwaukee Brewers, Mount Rushmore. But we decided in all cases, we would break a tie in the favor of players. There were managers, there were coaches, there are executives. But in all cases, if all the light just went out of my office because I didn't move. Hold on a second. Wait, let me. Sorry. I didn't know that would happen.

[Todd Fritz]

Hold on.

[Dan Patrick]

Times are tough there at the mothership. All right.

[Mike Greenberg]

Yes. If they think. They think the office is empty. Sorry about that. Leaving. Like Jack Buck off of the St. Louis. I've had a lot of people from St. Louis that are mad that we left Jack Buck off of the Cardinals list and some of the other announcers that if we were going to include any announcers, we should have gone all the way and put on those like Ernie Harwell isn't on the Tigers list, and Jack Buck isn't on the Cardinals list, and there are a few others. And again, that was really. And we write about. I mean, I write chapters on every one of these, so their names are mentioned in all of them. But those were tough decisions to make. I'll tell you another one. I have some Green Bay Packer fans, like, people who really know the history of that franchise, that are upset that we didn't include Curly Lambeau. And we do write a lot about him. Obviously, his name is on the stadium, but we felt. I mean, you had to put Lombardi on the list, and then we put the three quarterbacks. It just seems you've got Bart Starr, you got Brett Favre, you got Aaron Rodgers, all the MVPs that they won. Star still has the best postseason winning record of any quarterback in history and is the only quarterback in the modern era to win three straight championships. People think it's never been done, but that's wrong. They just didn't call it the super bowl when he won the first of those three. But he won three in a row. It felt like those three had to be on. But there are a lot of people who think if you don't include Curly Lambeau, you're making a mistake. So we've had a lot of pushback. You know, the really passionate fans of different places will have pretty strong opinions.

[Dan Patrick]

I know that you're a pronounced jets fan, but, oh, God, now I don't have any allegiance anymore. When I got to SportsCenter, I shed my allegiance to anything with the Bengals or the Reds. I just. It was easier for me to do it that way. But you go to work on that Monday after a Sunday with the jets or after. I mean, there's. There's sports depression and. But you still have to do your job. Like, there's no loss that affects me with the Reds or the Bengals, the teams that I grew up rooting for, where I go into that next day. But you do. You just absorb it, like you're. Are you conditioned? You just go, okay, this. This is what it means to be a Jets fan.

[Mike Greenberg]

At this point, I think my sports soul is calloused enough to sort of absorb that, the depression that is being a Jet fan. It's interesting because I host two different shows, and this has always been my philosophy, Dan. And I'm not sure how you see it, but when you're hosting a show like SportsCenter, as you did for all those years, as well as anyone ever did, or in my case, when I host the Sunday Morning Countdown show or when I host the NFL draft, those are shows people are not watching because I'm on them. They're watching them because they're fans of the sport. When I was hosting the NBA, they're watching because they're fans of the sport. No one but my mother is watching because they want to hear what I have to say. And so in those cases, I don't bring my fandom to that conversation at all. I don't treat the jets or any other team that I pay attention to any differently than I do any other team on talk shows that are my own shows. So when we were doing Mike and Mike, or now when I do get up, up, I figure the reason people are watching is because of your personality. It is because of who you are. They're tuning in to hear what you have to say about things. And in those, like, that's how I got to this. I didn't play. You know, I didn't. I was. I'm not a former athlete. I'm just a fan. I'm just a kid who grew up loving sports in the 1970s, and those are my teams. So I've never made any secret. I don't know if I've ever told you this, but the way that started was your friend and mine, Robin Roberts on the old On a Saturday morning Sports Center. Right before Robin left to do gma, I was hosting a Saturday morning sports center with her. And the jets were playing a playoff game that night. And this was before there was Mike. And Mike. This is before any of that. And I had never acknowledged what team I rooted for. I would have thought that that would be totally verboten, that I would, you know, Norby would call me in and fire me if that came up on the air. And in my own little private way, I wore a green tie that day. That's it. Said nothing of it. Just as wearing a green tie. And then in one of those little moments that you have for chit chat on SportsCenter, you know, where there would be like that little interaction, Robin says, greeny, I see that green tie. Obviously you got that on for the big jets game tonight. And I thought, oh my God, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me. Here I am, I'm anchoring ESPN News five days a week. They put me on SportsCenter like once a month. I'm getting this chance and now I'm getting, you know, outed as a fan of a team. This is going to be the worst thing that ever happened to me. And obviously nothing terrible happened. And then it wasn't until we started doing Mike and Mike that I thought, well, what am I going to sit here talking about? You know, like, what. What is the. We can't just sit here and analyze in a, in a dry way all the X's and O's of all these games. People want to hear what your passion is. So we talked about that. And there's no question I talk about the jets differently than I do other bad teams in the sport. It just, it's just the way it's going to be.

[Dan Patrick]

Before I let you go, Fritzi, who you know well, wants to try out as an announcer for get up and he has a get up tease that he Would like to read for you. So, Todd. Todd, you ready?

[Todd Fritz]

Let's do it.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Todd Fritz]

Good morning. You thought the Yankees were done, but who are we to judge? The captain spread some Tuesday night fever as the Bronx Bombers are staying alive. It took a while to get things racing in the Motor City and then Seattle Slew. Did LeBron make the wrong decision again? Wait until you henna see. The reaction would be a sobering end for the Cubs with old Milwaukee Brotherly glove. Can the Phil's catch up with those artful Dodgers? An angry bird is fined in Arizona. And are you fine with Jerry's bird flip explanation? If a puck dropped on the ice and no one saw it, did it really happen?

[Mike Greenberg]

Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

The NHL is underway and he got rescued from the dog pound in Cleveland by Cincinnati. We'll tell you why it's not wacko for the Bengals to buy into Flacco. It's time to get up.

[Mike Greenberg]

That is very well done, Fritz. He only missed one thing. Somehow, some way, you have to get the Cowboys in. I mean, you can't. We can't possibly do it.

[Dan Patrick]

It's true.

[Mike Greenberg]

You can't.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, no, we. We had Jerry's. Jerry flipping off the crowd. So we did squeeze in. Cowboy didn't get Dak in, but you got. You got Jerry in there.

[Mike Greenberg]

Oh, I miss. I must have been laughing over that one. That's extraordinarily well done. I will steal most of those puns from you. I particularly like Seattle Slew. That one goes for those who remember. That's a very well played one.

[Todd Fritz]

Thanks, book.

[Dan Patrick]

Greeny, good to talk to you. Good luck with the book and thanks for joining us.

[Mike Greenberg]

Great to see you Call it is a delight to be on. Great to see you, Dan and everybody. Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Greenie. The book is called get got your legends ranking America's sports franchises that are most iconic figures. He's Mike Greenberg. All right, Todd, there you go. You keep working your way back to espn. Yeah, once this show's over, you'll be like, hey, Greenie, remember me? Are you texting Greeny right now? Hey, great appearance.

[Todd Fritz]

As soon as you go to break, I'll go to the phone.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, we'll take a break. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Thursday night Football is on, and it's only on prime video. This week. It's a rivalry renewed as The Philadelphia Eagles take on the New York Giants. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member, Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Eagles and the giants Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details.

[Ebon]

Hey sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro tell you how to manage your money? Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards. If you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem. A year from now when you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates. I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan starting with your local credit union. Shopping around online looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge.

[Dan Patrick]

Judge.

[Ebon]

It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt. And it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment free money advice, listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Snax]

What's up everybody? This is Snax from the Trap Nerds Podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all our October long.

[Dan Patrick]

Kicking off this month I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror.

[Mike Greenberg]

Games from Resident Evil to Solid Hill.

[Snax]

Me and Tony bringing Backfire team on.

[Dan Patrick]

Left for Dead two and we just gonna be going over some of the greats.

[Snax]

Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movie and figure out why black people always gotta die first.

[Mike Greenberg]

The Umbral reliquary invites any and all.

[Dan Patrick]

Foolish brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take it all sales are final. Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special.

[Snax]

And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale, Jason versus Freddy, Michael Myers versus The Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October. We're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Traverse Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Nicole Garcia]

It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly like very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for like hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence.

[Nicole Garcia]

That's Ciara Teller Ornelas, who with Rutherford Falls, became the first Native showrunner in television history. On the podcast Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story along with other Native stories such as the creation of the first Native Comic Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage, Burn bridges on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. J]

But the humility in knowing that life is this classroom that we should never graduate from is what is going to keep you growing, and that's all that matters. World Mental Health Day is around the corner. And on my podcast, just heal without Dr. J, I dive into what it really means to care for your mind, body and spirit. From breaking generational patterns to building emotional capacity, healing is a journey and wholeness is the destination.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm gonna walk away feeling very healed.

[Mike Greenberg]

And feeling like, yes, I'm gonna continue.

[Lauren LaRosa]

My healing journey and I'm gonna get.

[Ebon]

Some keys from you.

[Dr. J]

Listen to just Hill with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Some a caller asked the defensive player of the year, according to DraftKings, right now, Aiden Hutchinson is your favorite, followed by Micah Parsons, Miles Garrett, Nick Bonito. The Broncos.

[Todd Fritz]

Heck yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

He's one of those guys that you don't know him, but then you watch the game and you're like, why don't I know this guy? Sneaky. Who's that?

[Todd Fritz]

Number 15 breaking through.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Thank you, Todd. Will Anderson is also in there. Jared Verse, T.J. watt, and Fred Warner. Fred Warner, Corey in Kansas City. Hi, Corey. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Hey, good morning, Mr. Patrick. Always a pleasure to speak with you. A six foot three tall piece of white chocolate. Marvin. By the way, you have a standing honorary invite to the persons of heights barbecue. Anyways, hey, by the way, guys, just for the record, remember, presidents are temporary, but Wu Tang is forever. Anyways, just wanted to say I'm a dedicated podcast listener, so I'm always a little bit behind on some of these topics. Have a TV show recommendation, and then also a shout out to the weirdest interview you ever had. TV show recommendation is the rehearsal starring Nathan Fielder. Kind of reminds me of you guys. You're not really sure what's scripted and what's not. And it's also kind of like, unlike anything you've really ever seen before. And then for your interview, Debo Samuel, from being the first guest to ever answer a question by drinking water to Marvin doing his best Chris Farley impression. God, that was a show.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Corey. That was at the Super Bowl. I knew it wasn't going to go well. I knew it was going to go well. Debo Samuel shows up during commercial break. I walk up, say hello, and really very little acknowledgment. And I thought, okay, you know, maybe it's gonna warm him up a little bit here. And then I realized, now that was about as good as it was going to get. And then. But I had promised Marvin that I was going to let him ask a question. I didn't go to him. Like, I. I give up. Marvin's a Niner fan. And I said, you know, go ahead and ask Debo a question. And I think you ask a question, Marvin.

[Mike Greenberg]

I did not have a question at all. Because in my head, if Debo doesn't want to answer Dan Patrick's questions, what makes you think he wants to answer my questions? So you were like, hey, Marvin's an honest fan. He's got a question. I was like, no, I don't.

[Dan Patrick]

He. I don't think Debo knew who I was. I think he was just there. It was a paid, you know, gig that they have at the super bowl, but I don't think he was interested in engaging.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paul, it was outdoors. It was in Scottsdale, and it was cool in the morning, but it wasn't cold.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, it was cold when you showed up.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

You woke up to Debo and you. Debo, Dan Patrick, his response was, whose idea was it to have the show outside? And that's it. That was the longest sentence he had.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Todd, how would you compare that experience to your Willie Mays interview in Scottsdale? And the amount of eye contact that was going on in body language, that.

[Dan Patrick]

Was such a long time ago. And, you know, Willie, I. I hated. I hated asking if Willie would talk about Barry Bonds. I hated that because he was put in a tough situation, and he Even said, you know, I got to talk about that bleep, you know, steroid stuff. He was not saying that about Barry, but, yeah, that. That was one that I. I don't know. I'd like to have that one back and not ask him because it just. I felt like, I don't know, I was picking on somebody a lot older in a situation where they didn't want to talk about Barry. So. But I'm. I was such a Hank Aaron fan that, you know, I, I had, you know, take that and put it to the side. My job's to ask questions. And. But that one now, it was uncomfortable. I felt bad. Let's see. Ocean. Austin in California. I don't know if I got that right.

[Caller]

Yeah, hi, Dan, can you hear me?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Caller]

Yeah, hi. Yeah, Austin in California. I called a couple of weeks ago. One of a few Bengals fans here in California. You know, I was listening to your. Thanks for taking my call. I was listening to your interview with Mike. Really, really nicely done. Fan of Mike as well. And you talked about how you grew up a Bengals Reds fan, but you kind of dropped all of your fandom when you joined SportsCenter. And I know you've talked about this several times on your show in the past, but I just, I don't know, like, deep down, is it always still in you? Like, for example, if the Bengals were in the super bowl and they played another team and everything, being objective and there's no real underdog story. It's two even teams. Do you not, deep down, root for the team that you grew up rooting for? Or how do you. How have you taken that out of your conscience?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I would root for the fan base in Cincinnati, but I, I don't have any loyalty to the Bengals or the Reds. I want a good story, but, you know, America doesn't need to hear how much I love a team or don't love a team. I just didn't want to put that bias in. And look, it's worked for Chris Berman. It's worked for other people. Stuart Scott with Greenie. I just. That was the. The path that I chose. Difficult at the time, but I'm glad I did it that way. Final hour on this Wednesday. Jimmy Rollins will stop by. We'll talk some baseball with him after this. When you own your own business, you own every decision. Catch the red eye or take the.

[Mike Greenberg]

6Am Make a new hire or promote internally.

[Dan Patrick]

Celebrate a win with the toast at the gate or unwind at the lounge. Big props to this team. Some decisions are A win win like earning eight times points on Chase Travel. Introducing Chase Sapphire Reserve for business. With $2,500 in annual value, it's the business card that gives back all you put in. Visit chase.com ReserveBusiness to learn more. Cards issued by JP Morgan, Chase Bank. Any member of DIC subject to credit approval terms apply.

[Nicole Garcia]

It may look different, but Native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia and on Burnsage Burn Bridges, we aimed at explore that culture.

[Dan Patrick]

Somewhere along the way it turned into this full fledged award winning comic shop.

[Nicole Garcia]

That's Dr. Lee Francis IV who opened the first native comic book shop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show. Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn bridges on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. J]

I love that you created this system that revolves around you, creating these pockets of peace. World Mental health day is around the corner and on my podcast just heal with Dr. J, I dive into what it really means to care for your mind, body and spirit. From breaking generational patterns to building emotional.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Capacity, I'm gonna walk away feeling like.

[Ebon]

Yes, I'm gonna continue my healing journey.

[Dr. J]

Listen to just heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Guys, I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody.

[Mike Greenberg]

Lauren LaRosa. You hear that exclusive.

[Dan Patrick]

Lauren came in hot.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I came in telling the truth. Every day I'm bringing you the latest in entertainment, breaking down the headlines you can't stop talking about and giving you my very unfiltered take on the biggest stories in the industry. From exclusive news and y' all know I got it to us breaking down the interviews. Cause y' all are my co hosts. Now I'm giving you the deep dive on some of the biggest moments in pop culture.

[Todd Fritz]

Oh my God.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Listen to the Latest with Lauren LaRosa weekdays on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Culture eats strategy for breakfast right?

[Dan Patrick]

On a recent episode of Culture Raises Us, I was joined by Valisha Butterfield, media founder, political strategist and tech powerhouse for a powerful conversation on storytelling impact and the intersections of culture and leadership.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I am a free black woman from.

[Dan Patrick]

The Obama White House to Google to the Grammys. Valisha's journey is a masterclass in shifting culture and using your voice to spark change. Listen to Culture Raises us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is an iHeart podcast.