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Dan Patrick
My starting lineup is here. Fritzi Dylan, Marv Polyers. Truly the back room guys. We'll check in with Chris Haynes, great NBA reporter stat of the day, brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Paulie also wants to plead his case. He wants to be on the Russell Wilson hall of Fame committee. Russell Wilson announcing his retirement. He will work for CBS's pregame show. We'll have that for you coming up as well. And Shohei Ohtani is doing something that hasn't been done since 1913, and it doesn't bring into the conversation the name Babe Ruth. So we'll have that for you coming up as well. 8, 7, 7, 3. DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle DP Show. My Golden Knights try to go for another win at the Hurricanes. Game two coming up tonight. Jalen Brunson closes as only Jalen Brunson can. Nicks over the spurs by 10. Up one oh. In the series, game two. It'll be the Knicks, five and a half point underdogs once again. But Jalen Brunson in the fourth quarter, closing out. They were down 14. They come back to win by 10, a 24 point turnaround and they've gotten comfortable with double digit deficits here. This is something that, you know, fourth time in the last 30 years a road team has come back from a double digit deficit to win Game 1 of the NBA Finals. None of the previous three. The Sixers in oh one, Celtics in 2022, Pacers in 2025, went on to win the series. Chris Haynes out of the day. Of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes that one. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app. And we say good morning to Chris Haynes, senior NBA insider for NBA on Prime and the association on NBA tv. Chris, there was a moment last night at the end of the game where Jalen Brunson did not celebrate after that win, but he went right to the referee, Scott Foster, and he wasn't mad at Scott Foster, but there was clearly an exchange there. And I had Fritzi reach out to you earlier and ask you if you knew what had happened then. So can you download us on what Brunson was upset about at the end of that game?
Chris Haynes
Yeah, I can. Dp thanks for having me, man. It's a long time. So this is what I can say. And I saved, I've saved this for you. I haven't reported this yet, so I'm gonna do it here.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Chris Haynes
And then if you give me 10 seconds to tweet it, I'll do that as well. But dp, what happened is the, the NBA right now was told. Sources inform me that the NBA is investigating two courtside fans that towards the end of the game, of game one, they were directing some vul fame, flopping, flopping taunts at Jaylen Brunson. And that happened probably around 20 second range, 20 seconds left in the game. And so then after the game, Brunson goes over to Scott Foster and he's not arguing with Scott, but Scott was right there. He was within distance of hearing what the fans were saying. And so Jaylen was just basically telling Scott, hey, Scott, listen, you know, do something about this. You, you see what they're saying. And I was told that the, the fans kept on, kept on saying some pretty derogatory remarks, taunts. And at that point, Scott, you, you see Jalen Brunson kind of looked like he was going to take a step towards that direction where the fans were at. And then you could see Scott tell them, hey, let's not do this. You guys won, you know, go Ahead. So I was told the NBA is looking into these two fans. Just, just a moment. D.P.
Dan Patrick
all right, go. Go ahead and tweet it out.
Chris Haynes
All right, link that and on threads as well. Okay, I am done now. DP all right. You were saying?
Dan Patrick
I was trying to figure out kind of, you know, we love to do this. Did the spurs lose? Did the Knicks win it? And I give credit to the Knicks here. I think the spurs look tired. Fourth quarter. Wemby settling for threes, not getting inside. I thought Carl Anthony Towns played great. Josh Hart. So your takeaway from this, if you're the spurs right now, your takeaway from what went wrong and how to fix it is what.
Chris Haynes
DP I hate to go to this because it's so easy to go to this, but it's the constant. It's the constant reality. It's a trend at this point. When Wemby goes 6 of 21, 7 of 25 of 17, the spurs lose. Simple. Simple as that. And I'm not putting it all on Wimy because obviously dear and Fox is out there. He has been struggling ever since. He's still dealing with that bummed ankle. But when Wimy is efficient and not selling for that outside jump shot. DP 42% of his shot attempts were three pointers. Yeah, he was 6 of 21 from the field, 2 and 9 from 3. That's playing right into the Knicks hands. Obviously you know the Knicks are going to be physical. They want to play physical basketball. When whoever's guarding Wimby and at a certain point Wimby is going to have to adapt to that and understand that. Yes, while his skill set, while he can do everything on the court, you have to understand that at certain times of the game it may cause for you to impose your will. And I know, you know, physically he's just not at that point right now. But the one thing that he has that nobody else has is 7ft foot height, 7 foot 5 height. And a lot of times he doesn't use that to his advantage. But he's going to need help elsewhere as well. But I think that's the constant trend. DP when he's he a guy that a guy that size can't continue having too many of these terrible shoot nights. It can't be 6 to 21. You know, we're not used to seeing guys of that size struggle like that from the field too often.
Dan Patrick
I don't know what the role analytics play with the spurs, but I'm still trying to understand this, that Dylan Harper at times was the best player on the floor. He plays four minutes in the fourth quarter. Kelton Johnson, sixth man of the year, Harrison Barnes and Luke Cornett played more than he did de' Aaron Fox. You can't be paying a guy $50 million and he gives you that. So this is, this is the problem I had watching that game. It just didn't make sense. Maybe substitution patterns, but I don't know if this is analytics or is this just gut feeling of making moves or not making moves?
Chris Haynes
Yeah, that's a good question. Dp. I mean, we didn't know how they were going to disperse. I should say we're going to start off defensively because we know Wimby like, tends to like to guard a guy who's not really a three point threat, which allows him to stay closer to the basket. So with that being said, Carl Anthony Towns was going to be a guy that I was looking at saying, okay, who are the spurs going to put on him? Champagne really can't stay with him on, you know, on the physical standpoint. And so I thought this was going to be a series where we'll see a lot more Keldon Johnson and a lot more Harrison Barnes because those guys present the physical matchups and the physical makeup that can contend with a Carl Anthony Town. So I was a little dp, I share your sentiment. I was a little confused as well by the rotation, but, you know, I'll, I'll chalk it up to game one just being that filling out period, trying to see different matches, see what works. But Dylan Harper is a stud. He's a true stud. And on de' Aaron Fox, dp, the one thing about de' Aaron Fox that he does do, and I understand why they're continually, you know, using him, is that he does stabilize the offense. You know, when the ball is in Stephon Castle's hands, he's. Stephon's playing amazing, doing things on both ends of the floor, but he is turnover prone. So I think they still have the confidence in de' Aaron that he can at least get the ball up court and get them into their sets. But yes, I agree he has to start shooting better because if you're out there, they expect you to produce.
Dan Patrick
Chris Haynes, senior NBA Insider for NBA on prime and the association on NBA tv. I do this almost on a daily basis talking about Jalen Brunson's ability. And I think if you saw him in high school, he was considered a great player. But he goes to Villanova. I don't know if anybody Thought that's going to translate to the NBA. Even in Dallas, where you go, boy, he's a nice player. And then all of a sudden he joins the Knicks. The Knicks wanted Donovan, they wanted Mitchell, and they got him. He was the consolation prize.
Chris Haynes
That's saying a lot right there. DP I remember when, when he signed his deal or. Well, well, when. When news got. When new not signed, when he signed his deal, but when news got out of what the Knicks were going to be paying him to leave Dallas, I remember Knicks fans out, you know, enraged, like, what we're paying, we're paying this back up. This.
Dan Patrick
What.
Chris Haynes
What are we doing? I, I remember that because I was the one that reported it. So I remember the outrage that that was had. And then it didn't take long for him to win over Knicks fans and, and it surely didn't take long for the NBA world to recognize he was a special player. But now this guy at 6:1, he may say he's 6:2, but I, I think he's more 6:1, this 6:1 guy who's not. It's not classified as an athletic guy. You know, it still marvels people how he can dominate, how shifty he is, how he can create, get inside the paint. And one thing I'll say about Jalen Brunson, even though he was struggling for probably three quarters, two and a half quarters of the game, Carl Anthony Towns, I want to give props to him. He kept him afloat. Landry Shamit, guys, OG had big shots. Alvarado came off the bench, had some good minutes. His teammates kept him, kept him in the game to the point where Brunson finally found his groove and was able to cash in later on. So Jalen Brunson is a star. He's special. You can already put him in the Mount Rushmore of Knicks greats at this point, at this stage.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I know that we want to. We're quick to have the Mount Rushmore here, you know, Frazier, Frazier and Willis Reed and Patrick Ewing on there, Bernard King. And if you want to put Jalen Brunson in there, you know, Bernard never won, Patrick didn't, Willis and Walt did. But Brunson's, you know, you win a title, they'll build a statue.
Chris Haynes
Oh, for sure.
Dan Patrick
I mean, they'll build one right next to the Statue of Liberty. But the statue, the Statue of Brunson and Statue of Liberty, she was 64 and I had a good handle.
Chris Haynes
Would that make the Brunson statue bigger than the Statue of Liberty?
Dan Patrick
No, it can't do it? No, because Brunson 6:1 Statue of Liberty. Yeah. It's great to talk to you, as always. Have fun down there, and we'll talk to you soon.
Chris Haynes
Yes, sir. D.P. always a pleasure, brother.
Dan Patrick
Chris Haynes, senior NBA Insider, NBA on Prime and the association on NBA tv. Yeah, that cleared up something, because I. I don't know what was being said. I just know Brunson wanted Scott Foster to know something was being said, and you need to do something about it. Two fans saying something, and then you have a fan who walks on the floor. So security, I'm hoping will be a little tighter there. Coming up in game two, Anthony in Portland. Hi, Anthony.
Caller Anthony
Good morning, fellas. Much respect, peace and blessings. I'm from Erie, Pennsylvania. I live in Portland, Oregon. And in 2000, January 2nd, I ran on the field, Ralph Wilson Stadium. I was in the end zone area, and I'm trying to make my attempt, and a security guard is shaking his head no, his hat blew off his head. And I'm. I darted on. Security surrounded me, and I said, okay, you got me. And then one spear chucked me, and the other one slammed me on my neck. And, yeah, they were not nice to me. Before I did that, my roommate said, give me the car keys because I'm not getting stuck in Buffalo.
Dan Patrick
Why. Why did you have to run on the field?
Caller Anthony
You know, I bought tickets for my grandfather to go to the game with me because he was a Colts fan. He ended up in the hospital. And. I don't know.
Dan Patrick
Did you. Didn't you. Did you end up in the hospital as well?
Caller Anthony
No, it was. It was weird in that. The little jail they have because they don't, like, check people. People are back there smoking cigarettes. They had cell phones. It was a weird jail. There was a Santa Claus drunk and, like, yeah, it was. It was weird. But I got criminal trespass and disorderly conduct, and I went to the first court hearing. I never went to the second one. I moved out to Portland, and like, 10 years later, I get this notice in the mail. They want their hundred dollars. I said, boy, how bad's Buffalo doing? They tracked you down in Portland for 100 bucks. But I finally got that taken off my record.
Dan Patrick
And you don't seem, you know, too bothered by this, Anthony.
Caller Anthony
No, I don't know. I was young and, you know, everyone always asks, were you streaking? Did you streak when I tell the story? No, I wasn't streaking.
Dan Patrick
Well, thank you for that story, Anthony. Yes, Dylan?
Caller Dylan
I grew up with this kid whose dad, I believe it was during the 1994 New York Rangers run. Jumped on, brought skates and jumped on the ice at the game and was skating around. And it's just funny to picture getting taken to jail with skates on because I don't think they let you go back in the stands and get your shoes. He had a picture of it, too. I remember it was like him, you know, like just skating around.
Dan Patrick
Phone calls coming up, we'll update our poll results. Paulie wants to plead his case for Russell Wilson Jr. III, hall of Famer. He'll do so next right after this.
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Nick Jonas
Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.
Marvin
What's the news?
Joe Getty
Huge news.
Nick Jonas
We created our own podcast called hey Jonas.
Joe Getty
We invented a podcast.
Nick Jonas
Well, we didn't invent it. We, we just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts, but this one's extra special.
Caller Dylan
So how did we, how do we
Nick Jonas
actually come up with the name hey Jonas? Guys, I honestly don't remember.
Dan Patrick
I think it was on a call
Nick Jonas
about what we should call it and, well, we were thinking, I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes, I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey Jonas. And offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that. Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.
Dan Patrick
We don't care where you hear it.
Drink Champs Host
June is Black Music Month and on the Drink Champs podcast, we're speaking with the hottest names in the culture like Swae Lee.
Caller Anthony
Do you realize how legendary you are?
Swae Lee
I appreciate that I be seeing it, but I'm like, man, I still got, like, so much more to do. Like Prince, he dropped like 30 albums. We dropped like five right now. That's the rate we gotta be going.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, that's a good attitude.
Drink Champs Host
You'll also hear stories from industry legends and hip hop pioneers like Fab five Freddy.
Fab Five Freddy
I directed one of Nas's early videos.
Dan Patrick
Which one?
Caller Anthony
One Love. Wow. Yes.
Fab Five Freddy
I literally filmed in his apartment in Queensbridge. His moms were still up in that apartment. Nas was just beginning to take off. His pops used to live near me in Harlem. His dad introduced him to a whole lot of, you know, conscious stuff, and he made a young prodigy.
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Akilah Hughes
Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is getting a new one put up in its place.
Chris Haynes
As long as there's a politics of
Paulie
race in America, there's going to be
Chris Haynes
a politics of remembering the Civil War.
Dan Patrick
To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard. Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're a historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job.
Akilah Hughes
I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky Statehouse that's actually worth the wall space.
Dan Patrick
We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that?
Caller Becky
They are just fueling a fire that is really catching.
Akilah Hughes
You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Theo Henderson
Mainstream media is full of cruel depictions of the unhoused, stories that shame and blame and paint the unhoused as a mon. We the Unhoused is the podcast that's changing that. I'm Theo Henderson, creator and host, and for years I've created a space where the unhoused and their advocates can tell their own stories. In the last few months alone, I've interviewed unhoused parents, immigrants, mutual aid organizers, veterans, the LGBQTIA community, and the policymakers who make the laws that impact the unhoused existence. We Unhouse is a two time Webby and Signal award winning show with many exciting guests on the horizon. Tune in this week for my interview with Dr. Jill Wicheric, a street doctor turned influencer whose work with the Unhoused community has made a huge impact online and in her community. Listen to we the Unhoused on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Dan Patrick
Phone calls are welcome. Tyler sitting by. He'll take those calls. Shohei Otani allowed two hits. He struck out six six scoreless innings. He lowered his ERA to 0.74 through 10 starts. I believe this is the lowest ERA since 1913.
Caller Todd
Of the day.
Dan Patrick
And the Cy Young race in the National League is wild because Christopher Sanchez had his streak of shutout innings snapped. Now the Phillies beat the Padres. He had a streak of 50 and two third consecutive scoreless innings. That's the third longest in the live ball era. That's since 1920. So Oral Hershiser had 59. That was in 1988. Don Drysdale had 58 in 1968. But Ohtani, this Cy Young's important to him. Then I go back to Dave Roberts telling me that in spring training it's like, how important is winning the Cy Young? He goes very this just feels like, hey, what do you want me to do? Give me a new challenge here. But that's crazy, crazy impressive. Yes. Dylan.
Caller Dylan
Yeah, I got the NL Cy Young odds currently.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Caller Dylan
Christopher Sanchez is leading the pack at plus 135 followed by Jacob Mizarowski at plus 200 and then Shohei Otani plus 550. So decent odds but not, not out of it at all.
Dan Patrick
Where's schemes?
Caller Dylan
Skins is fourth at plus 950.
Dan Patrick
This is wild. Wild. Yeah.
Paulie
Paul and Ohtani's hitting stats way up in the last seven days, 14 of 26. He's hitting.301 now.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I think he had a nice month long stretch here. Had a couple of hits last night, but six scoreless innings and he's gotten to that point where we're not surprised. But you have the the best era through the first 10 starts since 1913. Yes.
Paulie
Paul, someone asked me the other day about Ohtani. Well, there will be others like him. Do you think teams are going to let others wag the dog like he did and pitch and hit full time?
Dan Patrick
Yes. If I'm a team. Like I would still want to know if Paul Skeens wants to hit because he was a real good hitter when he was at the Air Force Academy. And if I could have the curiosity here of a team now, the Pirates are playing pretty well, but if I'm a team like the Marlins, would I. Would I want to give somebody that opportunity just for the curiosity factor? Yes, I would. Because it's really rare if you have a great pitcher who wasn't a great hitter when he was growing up. But if I can have somebody who has that ability to be a competent hitter and you know he's going to be my starter every fifth day and I can have him that bat in the lineup. Sure. Yeah.
Paulie
Paul in two years before he got to LSU, Paul Skeens, in two years at Air Force, he hit.367 with 24 homers.
Dan Patrick
I got at least be curious.
Paulie
He wasn't average. He was one of the best hitters in the conference.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah. So. Yes. Would I do that? Yes. Did the prices go up for Game 3 of the NBA Finals? This one in the Garden?
Paulie
Yeah, they went up quite a bit in the past week. I think the get in price for one seat nosebleeds was 4, 900. Now I have it at 7500 for one seat just to get in any seat. The built the worst seat.
Dan Patrick
Worst seat in the building. Yeah. Yes. Dylan.
Caller Dylan
So that means you could get Yankees, Mets, jets and Giants tickets for the next two seasons for essentially the price of going to one Knicks game.
Dan Patrick
But could you imagine if. Let's just say the Knicks are up three zero and you're going to have game four in the building. What do you think the get in price would be for game four at the Garden? Nine. $10,000. Yes.
Caller Dylan
Dill, we could do a little closest to the hole and then if that happens, see who's. See who's closest. I would guess nor it's north of 10 grand.
Dan Patrick
Well, I don't think they're going to be up 3 0. Well, after last night, I know it's one game. One game I've. I've seen a lot of first game. Oh my gosh. Did you see what Allen Iverson and the Sixers did? Yeah. And then I saw what happened the next four games. Not equating the Knicks to Allen Iverson and the Sixers back then against the Lakers. But we've seen those. Oh my gosh, I remember Philadelphia. What was that? The Boston Massacre where Philly beat the Celtics like by 44 something. Andrew, Tony was. Andrew, Tony was underrated, man.
Paulie
You loved him.
Dan Patrick
He was. He was a bucket. Andrew Tony was a bucket. But I think they lost like by 44 points. In game one. And then everybody's like, oh, my gosh, it's over. And then Celtics came back to win it. 40. Was it 40 point margin, Paulie? Yeah.
Paulie
The Celtics humiliated the Sixers. I'm reading that. By A score of 121 to 81. Larry Bird, 24, 15 and 10.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Marvin.
Chris Haynes
Andrew.
Marvin
Tony's got one of my favorite nicknames, the Boston Strangler. Yeah, because you should just kill Boston on a regular basis.
Dan Patrick
What was his number? 22. God, he was good. He was. There are certain guys where you go, he's going to score, like Vinnie Johnson. He's just going to score. They knew how to score. They expected them to score. So did I have that reversed? It was Boston beat Philly by 40, not Philly beating Boston. Yeah. Huh. Okay. Yeah. I'm getting old, you know, I'm forgetting things now. Little things. What's your name in the back?
Caller Todd
I'm Todd. You call me Fritzi, usually.
Dan Patrick
Oh, hey, Free Fritzi.
Caller Todd
How's it going?
Dan Patrick
How are you?
Caller Todd
I'm doing okay.
Dan Patrick
All right. Great to see you. Okay, here we go. Paul has been asking for this. He said, could I have a moment? I said, like, what's. Wait, what's going on? No, no, A moment on the show. I said, okay, what's the moment? I need to start the ramp up for five years from now with Russell Wilson getting into the Pro Football hall of Fame. I said, okay, I'll let you be part of the. Let's elect Russell Wilson to the Pro Football hall of Fame. He announced his retirement yesterday. Now, do I think he's retired? Retired? No. He's going to be in New York working for CBS in the studio. Let's say something happens with Dak Prescott. Oh, Jackson Dart, maybe, you know, with the Jets. But this is a job. Hold on to it because, you know, I tell. You know, when guys get these jobs, I say, they don't come around that often. You won't get another chance if you decide that you're gonna go back into coaching like Jon Gruden. This should have been his. His job, you know, for a long, long time. But if I'm Russell Wilson, I would. I would say you got a job. You can stay in this job. You're a young guy and you're going to be with CBS pregame show. As long as CBS has the NFL. Yes. Yes, Paulie.
Paulie
All right, I have a question for the room. Let's assume Russell Wilson does not play again and does not add to or detract from his hall of Fame candidacy. Would it be fair to say that the last two years he undone. He undid a lot of goodwill, a lot of traction he had to the hall of Fame? Would be fair to say, yeah. So in Pittsburgh, he was 6 and 5 as a starter, 16 touchdowns, five picks. Didn't go great. Last year with the Giants, 0 and 3 as a starter really went poorly.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. But this. This started in Denver.
Paulie
Right. So in Denver, his first year in Denver, he was 4 and 11. Sixteen touchdowns, 11 picks. Not good. His second year, he was 7 and 8 as the starter, 26 touchdowns and eight picks. But it was not a great season.
Dan Patrick
Well, you had a coach who didn't want him. I mean, he. He has great stats. His touchdown to interception ratio is probably top five all time. But we forget how great he was. That's how long ago it's been. And do I think he's. If I take away his name and I say, here are the stats, he's a Hall of Famer. Problem is I can't take away his name and it feels like he might not be liked. It might be all the Legion of Boom is the reason why you got to two Super Bowls. You threw an interception that cost your team. I'm just going by what I think. If, if I'm going to make an opposite case, why didn't you give it to Marshawn Lynch? Well, it wasn't his call, but. And Russ, to me, was the best player on the field that night against the Patriots. I thought he was incredible. But do I think he's a Hall of Famer? I do. I think he's more of a Hall of Famer than Eli Manning. I think he's more of a Hall of Famer than Philip Rivers. I think he's more of a Hall of Famer than Matt Ryan.
Paulie
Do you think enough people agree with you?
Dan Patrick
I don't think so. You know, if Matt Ryan wins that super bowl against the Patriots, he's Hall of Famer. Right. If Russ beats the Patriots, again, definitely a Hall of Famer. But it's tricky where you go, boy, that one game or that one pass is the difference between you being a Hall of Famer, not a Hall of Famer. You went from a sure thing to I don't know. Yeah.
Paulie
Paul, if David Tyree doesn't hold on to the ball and they lose and Eli Manning is one and one, finish
Dan Patrick
that statement, he's probably not a Hall of Famer. I mean, you have people who don't think he's a Hall of Famer. I mean, he compiled, but he did have two of the biggest moments and he beat the Patriots. Is that enough to make you a Hall of Famer? Yes. Marvin. Yeah.
Marvin
Eli hasn't gotten to the hall of
Dan Patrick
Fame yet, but he will.
Marvin
You think so?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, he will. Yeah. He's not a first ballot hall of Famer or Hall.
Marvin
He might not be a Hall of Famer at all.
Dan Patrick
No, be a Hall of Famer.
Marvin
So those two wins. Because I would say Brady is the most important last name in his candidacy.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, but then the name Manning is second most important because your brother's already in the Pro Football Hall.
Marvin
But that's. To me, that last name has nothing to do with him. Whether or not he gets into the hall of Fame or not. His brother, I mean, his father's not in hall of Fame. It's only Peyton.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but Eli won two Super Bowls. Arch played on a bad team.
Marvin
No, I'm saying. Yeah, the two Super Bowls. Not his last name. Forget his last name. If it's. If he's Eli Jones, he's going to the hall of Fame. Just because of those two super bowl wins.
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Caller Dylan
Dylan, if Russ goes to two Super Bowls but he loses both, so he doesn't have that one Super Bowl. Is it even a conversation with his stats and everything?
Dan Patrick
I think it's more of a conversation, a debate about that. Look at his. He had 350 touchdown passes and 100 something interceptions. I mean that's Aaron Rodgers. Like that, that touchdown to interception ratio. I just don't think we looked at Russ as the reason why Seattle was winning.
Caller Dylan
Well, and I wonder too if the Seahawks winning last year was Sam Darnold like basically a whole new team. Not saying it overshadows Russ, but he's not the last guy to have won in Seattle.
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Paulie
Paul Russell had seasons of 34 touchdowns. 34, 35, 31, 40. Those aren't pedestrian numbers. Those aren't Troy Aikman, no offense, where he was part of a great team. Here's a couple stats. How many quarterbacks in NFL history have at least 300 touchdown passes and fewer than 125 interceptions?
Dan Patrick
1, 2.
Paulie
Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson. Oh, here's another.
Dan Patrick
Well, that was the one. Yeah, he was the other.
Paulie
Here's another one. Quarterbacks that have 40,000 plus career passing yards and eight plus playoff wins. It's a good list. It's probably 10 guys, but it's Brady, Brees, Manning, Favre, Rodgers, Big Ben, Marino, Eli Elway, Flacco, by the way, Flacco Russell Wilson and Joe Montana, they all feel like hall of Famers.
Dan Patrick
Yes, Todd.
Caller Todd
It pains me because of the way things worked out or didn't work out in Denver, but for Russ specifically, just because of that one play, I know how much we get caught up with one super bowl win versus two super bowl wins. But that one play should be the difference in someone, you know, being immortalized
Dan Patrick
in the hall of.
Caller Todd
I personally have a problem with that, and I think he's done enough for the hall of Fame. Not the first ballot or anything like that, but I can't take that on him because they decided not to hand the ball off to Marshall to Skittles Marshawn Marshall.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Todd. Yes, Marvin.
Marvin
I don't even think it's the past that got intercepted. I think it's the last four or five years of his career that undid it, because if he kept playing at a Pro bowl level and he still had the super bowl victory and a Super bowl loss, he's going to the hall of Fame. It's the play from his last four years that undid his hall of Fame candidacy.
Dan Patrick
Has anybody else played themselves out of surefire hall of Fame? Can you think in. In any sport in history where you go, boy, that guy limped to the finish line. I don't know if he's a Hall of Famer because he was in those first eight, nine years. You're like, oh, of course. Because he was going to the playoffs. He went to two Super Bowls. He was going to Pro Bowls. I think he had 10 Pro Bowls. Yes, Mark.
Marvin
For different reason. Reasons, obviously. Antonio Brown.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Paul.
Paulie
Like, we don't do this in baseball. Ken Griffey Jr's first 10 years were galactic. His next 10 were good. He didn't play himself out of anything. Albert Pujol's first 10 were as good as anything ever. His next 10 were good.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but Russ didn't have 10 years that were galactic. He had 10 that were consistently great. Junior had 10 years that were galactic, and then he had 10 good years, got banged up a lot. Yes, Marv.
Marvin
If Russell Wilson has an MVP award, I don't even think this is a discussion, because he would have just been a Pro Bowler. And how much stock do you put into those Pro Bowls? Was he an alternate? Was he a starter? So that goes. That comes into playoffs.
Dan Patrick
Well, if Matt Ryan, who won an mvp, won that super bowl, he's going into the hall of Fame. But I don't. I don't think he's viewed as a Hall Of Famer. Yes. Dylan.
Caller Dylan
I also think with the Malcolm Butler playing the Super Bowl, I think Pete Carroll takes the brunt of the blame for that over Russell Will. Like, at least in the court of public opinion. Like, yeah, he threw the pick, but it's really the play. Call that people, I think.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but that's not on Pete Carroll. It's Daryl Bevel.
Caller Dylan
Daryl Bevel.
Dan Patrick
Like, he's the guy. It's weird how Daryl Bevel. And then you'll look at Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn was the head coach of the Falcons. Kyle Shanahan's the one who's calling those plays, man, with the Falcons. And instead of just, you know, running the ball up the middle three times, kick a field goal, now they need two scores. Now you're going to win a Super Bowl. So sometimes we blame the wrong guy. Yeah. Dale.
Caller Dylan
If we're going off of nicknames, in terms of hall of fame candidacy, Mr. Unlimited is pretty good. But he's also the asterisk and robot Russell.
Dan Patrick
Wait, wait, those are Russ's nicknames?
Caller Dylan
According to Pro Football Reference. I was familiar with Mr. Unlimited and Dangerous.
Dan Patrick
I heard Dangerous, but not Mr. Unlimited.
Caller Dylan
You never heard Mr.
Dan Patrick
Unlimited?
Joe Getty
No.
Theo Henderson
Oh, really?
Paulie
Like Mr. Worldwide?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, that.
Caller Dylan
That was that. He was all Mr. Unlimited all the time back in Seattle. Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Oh, his wife is.
Caller Dylan
She's Mr. Unlimited.
Dan Patrick
She's Ms. Unlimited. She's first team Ms. Unlimited.
Caller Dylan
Yeah, she's pretty Unlimited.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Yes.
Paulie
Paulie, here's one last stat.
Dan Patrick
All right?
Paulie
Quarterbacks who have thrown 300 plus touchdown passes and run for more than 4,000 yards in their career, how many do you think there are?
Dan Patrick
1.
Paulie
1. Russell Wilson. 353 touchdown passes and 5,600 rushing.
Dan Patrick
That's pretty good.
Paulie
But his rushing yards were never spectacular. They were efficient. He'd run for like 500 yards, but never 1100 yards. So it's like he never. He led the league in touchdowns once. He never had 50. He never ran for a thousand. It's like, you know, not the Joe Johnson of the league.
Dan Patrick
Well, we'll revisit this in five years from now. He's not going to be a first ballot hall of Famer. Yes. Marvin.
Marvin
So you're coming back in five years for the Russell?
Dan Patrick
Yes. Just for this. I think it might be six years or seven years. Price. Seven years before now. It will help Russ. Guys who have gone into TV and they stay present. Guys have benefited from being in the broadcast booth. Dan Deardorff did. I thought Dan Fouts did. Like they're. They're still Omnipresent. And it's not like a guy goes away. Like I've, I've campaigned for Ricky Waters for years. I thought he was that first running back wide receiver and he played with the Niners. I thought he was a great player. You know, Roger Craig got in. I'm happy for that. But you know, there's certain guys where they're not doing anything. They're not there on Monday Night Football or a Sunday afternoon. And I do think that that helps out. How about we. Yes.
Marvin
Marvin, do you think the nickname Legion of Boom hurts his hall of Fame candidacy? Because you had such an iconic defense that was leading the charge?
Dan Patrick
I would say that's part of the equation. It's like the doomsday defense. Purple eat purple, People eaters, the Steel Curtain. Like those defenses were so recognizable, fearsome foursome, that it does take away from the other side of the ball. Yeah, Dale.
Caller Dylan
Yeah, but he was great too. It's not like a Ravens Trent Dilfer situation. Whereas like the defense literally had to win them the game. Of course they did. But like he. They were no slouch on offense either.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but Marshawn lynch was more famous than Russell Wilson.
Caller Dylan
Yeah, it's true.
Dan Patrick
So you had Legion of Boom, then he had Marshawn, and then you had all this third round draft pick out of Wisconsin. And he seems like he's pretty good. Yes, Marv.
Marvin
Another thing that hurts him is when they won the super bowl, he was not super bowl mvp. It was somebody on the defense.
Dan Patrick
True. Yes.
Caller Dylan
Still, I better nickname Beast Mode. Mr. Unlimited or Legion of Boom. That's pretty good trifecta. You got on the same team.
Dan Patrick
I would say Beast Mode.
Caller Dylan
Beast Mode.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, because he ran like that. Legion of Boom is pretty good.
Caller Dylan
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Mr. Unlimited is not. No, no, that, that, that sounds like a social media influencer. Well, kinda like there's a Mr. Beast. Yeah.
Caller Todd
Mr.
Caller Dylan
Unlimited.
Dan Patrick
Mr. Unlimited. All right, let me take a break. Let me take a break. We'll get to more phone calls, more on the game one of the NBA finals. My Golden Knights trying to go for 20 against the Hurricanes tonight. Back after this.
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Caller Anthony
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Swae Lee
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, that's a good attitude.
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Fab Five Freddy
I directed one of Nas's early videos.
Dan Patrick
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Caller Anthony
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Nick Jonas
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Chris Haynes
Yes.
Fab Five Freddy
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Dan Patrick
Paul in Iowa. Hi Paul. What do you have for me today?
Caller Paul
Hey, Dan.
Caller with Russell Wilson comment
Well, I would say for Russell Wilson at the hall of Fame, instead of a bust, we should have a little monument that shows him doing shotgun sets in the aisle of a transatlantic flight. That would be my most memorable Russell Wilson moment. But I'm calling. It's a big week for college basketball players that are pulling their names out of the draft and transferring. A lot of negotiation. That's why I think we should call it. There's no recruiting involved. If a coach just has the biggest amount of money and says, here's what I can offer you, it's a lot different than recruiting is even for high school players. So I say that these guys are in negotiations with new schools and they get as professional as possible.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but they were doing this before under the table where the highest bidder, highest offer, the best offer. I mean, now you got to pay taxes on it. Terry in Seattle. Hi Terry. What do you have for me?
Caller Paul
Hey, good morning, Dan, and always nice to talk to you fellas. I wanted to call in to support Paulie on his Russell Wilson argument for the hall of Fame. I think as time goes on and we all take the emotion out of it, good, bad or indifferent, he's a Hall of Famer. Maybe not first ballot, but he is. And I think another stat for Paulie would be that fourth quarter all time comeback for a quarterback. Russ ranks ninth with 32, right in between Dan Moreno and John Elway. And another analogy that I could make on another sport, I throw out to you, Mike Trout. I mean, for the first five, six years that guy owned baseball and we were ready to put him in the hall of Fame right away. Well, what does this last five or six years look like? We all know the reasons, but the reasons don't Matter. It might be another argument. I love the guy, but he just hasn't done much in the last few years.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but those first, whatever, seven or eight years, I mean that's all time great. You're winning the MVP or runner up. Russ was never the mvp. You know, he played great, but Mike Trout has played great for bad teams. And I get what you're saying, but Mike Trout is already a Hall of famer. Becky in Wisconsin. Hi, Becky.
Caller Becky
Morning guys. Nice to talk to you again. I just had a couple of comments. First of all, I wanted to say congratulations to Caleb Williams on making the COVID of Madden. As a Packer fan, I am very excited and hope he has a Madden like year. I wanted to mention that I tried to call or I was going to call him yesterday, but I was a little busy. I wanted to talk about Todd being a cheapskate. I wanted to defend him because way back when I lost that pie to the face bet about the Broncos packers and called in on the caller is always right day. Todd was pretty amazing with a very generous donation that he made to my polar plunge pitch. So I just wanted to get Becky.
Dan Patrick
Becky, it's because you're a woman.
Caller Becky
You know, I wouldn't argue that.
Dan Patrick
I'm just, I'm just telling you that he, he is not afraid to spend on women. And I think it's a nice gesture. But do I think the fact that you're a woman and Todd gave a charitable donation, if your name was Bart instead of Becky, I don't think he would have been jumping on that. Yes, Todd, I don't really have a good comeback because you know it's true
Caller Todd
and you know I'm a sucker for the, for the females. But I'm glad I can contribute. That is true that I have a gender bias when it comes to how far I'm gonna go.
Dan Patrick
Yes, Dylan.
Caller Dylan
So Todd, if I was terminally ill, am I getting anything?
Caller Todd
I'd probably give you a couple bucks. Maybe I might send a pizza your way or something like that. We'll be dying, Todd.
Caller Dylan
You think I want pizza?
Dan Patrick
Well, isn't there the woman whose name is Dylan on the Today show?
Caller Todd
Dylan Dreyer.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. So if you didn't know that it was Dylan and you thought it might have been a woman, then yes, I
Caller Todd
would have been tricked. Dylan Dry. I would send all kinds of money.
Caller Dylan
I think we can work something out.
Dan Patrick
I think Dylan Dreyer might be in Tahoe again this year playing golf.
Caller Todd
Todd, I love Dylan Dryer. What do you want me to say? I Think she's a beautiful woman and a great meteorologist?
Dan Patrick
Of course she is. Did the meteorologist find the meteorologist that hit Boston? Like, did the meteorologist know the meteorologist the meteor was coming our way? Paulie is in the confessional if you're watching on Peacock. Final hour after this.
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In this episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick discusses a wild Game 1 of the NBA Finals with insider Chris Haynes and breaks down Jalen Brunson’s clutch performance and postgame controversy with fans. The latter half is devoted to a spirited, stat-heavy debate on newly retired Russell Wilson’s Hall of Fame credentials, featuring strong arguments, notable stats, and classic DP Show banter.
(01:10–13:04)
“You can already put [Brunson] in the Mount Rushmore of Knicks greats at this point, at this stage.”
— Chris Haynes (11:28)
(21:06–25:13)
(28:31–39:57)
“His touchdown to interception ratio is probably top five all time. But we forget how great he was. That’s how long ago it’s been.”
— Dan Patrick (29:46)
“Quarterbacks who have thrown 300+ touchdown passes and run for more than 4,000 yards in their career... 1. Russell Wilson.”
— Paulie (38:04)
(13:39–15:41; 45:01–49:25)
This episode captures the best of The Dan Patrick Show: expert NBA analysis, breaking news, sharp historical context, and a classic debate that ties careers, moments, and stats into the larger question of what truly makes a Hall of Famer. If you’re a fan of basketball stories, quarterback legacies, or just enjoy top-tier sports radio chemistry, it’s an hour not to miss.
Chris Haynes (on Brunson):
“You can already put [Brunson] in the Mount Rushmore of Knicks greats.” (11:28)
Dan Patrick (on Russell Wilson):
“I think he’s more of a Hall of Famer than Eli Manning.” (30:10)
Paulie (on Wilson’s rushing/passing number):
"Quarterbacks who have thrown 300+ touchdown passes and run for more than 4,000 yards in their career—1. Russell Wilson." (38:05)
For NBA playoff diehards, NFL history buffs, and debate lovers, this episode is a must-hear.