The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: Chris Paul Isn’t for Everybody, Kurt Warner

Date: December 4, 2025
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show
Host: Dan Patrick, with Paulie, Seaton, Marvin, and Todd
Special Guest: Kurt Warner (NFL Hall of Famer)

Episode Overview

This hour of The Dan Patrick Show dives into NBA trade rumors surrounding Giannis Antetokounmpo, debates Chris Paul’s complicated legacy and fit in the league, and previews Thursday Night Football between the Dallas Cowboys and Detroit Lions. The crew also discusses college football coaching rumors, the transfer portal, NIL, and brings in Hall of Famer Kurt Warner for a deep NFL conversation including quarterback development and toughness.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA: Giannis Antetokounmpo & Blockbuster Trades

• Rumors: Brian Windhorst’s report resurfaces—Giannis may want out of Milwaukee, with the Knicks a rumored destination.
• Fan Pulse: A live poll says 74% think the Bucks should trade Giannis (05:25).
• Speculation: Discussion on which team fits Giannis best—New York, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, or Houston (05:27).
• Trade Value: Massive packages discussed (up to 5-6 first-round picks), but the hosts question their actual value.
• Knicks Dilemma: Jalen Brunson considered untouchable in trade talks (06:28, 06:52).
• Trade Take:

  “If you’re Milwaukee, can you rebuild?” – Dan Patrick (04:04)
  “You’re not getting Brunson… You can’t even have the conversation with the Knicks.” – Dan Patrick (06:44)

2. Chris Paul’s NBA Legacy & Fit

• Clippers Departure: Paul reportedly left the Clippers with friction between him and coach Ty Lue—“Ty Lue and Chris Paul weren’t talking.” (07:31)
• Personality Comparison: Dan likens Paul to “a lesser version of Isaiah Thomas…a tough guy, leader, but he can agitate you.”
• Paul’s Fit:

  “Chris Paul’s not for everybody.” – Dan Patrick (07:24)

• Aging Star Tension: “If you’re not that good anymore, then you don’t put up with it.” – Dan (07:55)
• Number of Teams: If Paul joins another team, he’ll reach 8 in his career, drawing comparisons to Vince Carter and Moses Malone (11:05–12:26).
• Team Fit Analysis:

  “Your two best players in Kawhi and Harden are two guys that…‘I play basketball, I get my money, I go home.’ Chris Paul really felt like a leader that wanted to win, but unfortunately, he’s the same age as me.” – Dan Patrick (10:20)

3. College Football: Coaching Carousel & System Evolution

• Penn State Coaching Rumors:
  • Interim Terry Smith likely to stay for now; Brian Kelly, Brian Daboll speculated for the future, Dan Mullen’s name floated (13:02–13:58, 21:37–22:48)
  • Noted Penn State has “painted themselves in a corner”—few top-flight options available (12:50).
• Relegation in College Football: The crew debates whether FCS (1-AA) teams should have the opportunity to move up via promotion, similar to soccer leagues (14:48–15:14).
• Transparency in Playoff Selection: Callers and the crew discuss televising College Football Playoff committee deliberations to enhance transparency and drama (15:51–17:00).

4. NFL Preview & Quarterback Development with Kurt Warner

Kurt Warner Joins (22:46):

• College Football, NIL & Transfer Portal: Warner shares insights as a parent:

  “I understand the NIL. I think guys should definitely get paid…But the idea of just jumping one place to another solely for money…I think is always going to be a problem.” (23:19)

• Lions vs. Cowboys Outlook: Warner leans towards Dallas as more consistent, though still questions both teams’ ceilings (24:47–26:01).

  “I think Dallas is maybe showing us a little bit more of what they can be…The Lions, [it’s been] a roller coaster both offensively and defensively.”

• Injury Impact: On Justin Herbert’s left hand:

  “As long as that hand's not going to get any worse, I believe Justin Herbert will be out there playing.” (27:15–28:53)

• Quarterback Traits – Smart vs. Tough:

  “I want a smart quarterback that makes good decisions...I don’t need you to take that big hit…I don’t need you to run through a defender instead of slide.” (29:06–30:30)

• Drake Maye vs. Caleb Williams Development:

  “The system really fits [Drake Maye]...When you talk about development, that to me is the first step—do you have a [play] designer that sees the game like the quarterback sees the game?” (32:12–33:01)
  “With Caleb [Williams]…he hasn’t had to process information as much…It’s a battle for him right now to change the way he’s always played the game.” (33:18)
  “Drake has been extremely accurate…Caleb has not.” (34:30)

• Can a QB Have Too Much Talent?

  “The more skills and gifts you have, the more it’s going to open up the possibilities…when is it time to run as opposed to staying in your progressions?” (35:24–37:56)

  • Steve Young anecdote: Bill Walsh had to retrain Young to stay in the pocket to become a HoF QB (37:56).
• Kurt Warner drops off due to tech difficulties (38:56), but conversation continues referencing his points.

5. NFL Pressure Metaphors – The Josh Allen Segment

• Phrase Fumbling: The hosts deconstruct Bills QB Josh Allen’s attempt at motivational metaphors—combining “pressure makes diamonds” and “pressure bursts pipes.”

  “Pressure can make diamonds and burst pipes and make diamonds…That’s how it goes. I’m not fully sure.” – Josh Allen (41:55)

  • Laughter ensues as the crew tries to clarify the idioms (42:06–43:26).

6. Lighthearted Closer: Misheard Phrases and TV

• Mangled Sayings: Paulie shares his wife’s version of "read between the lines" as “read between the limes,” leading to a round of “things people hear wrong.”
• Pop Culture Sidebar: Quick takes on the aging cast of “Stranger Things” and segue into TV preferences, before Hour 2 winds down (44:56–46:51).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

NBA Moves

• “If you’re Milwaukee, can you rebuild? We tried to get Dame Lillard… Didn’t work, we probably have to detonate here.” – Dan Patrick (04:04)
• “Chris Paul’s not for everybody. He’s kind of a lesser version of Isaiah Thomas, you know, without the titles… but can agitate you.” – Dan Patrick (07:24)

Kurt Warner on College Football

• “I think there has to be reasons on why you’re making the jump… jumping one place to another solely for money…is always going to be a problem.” – Kurt Warner (23:19)

Kurt Warner on QBs: Smart vs. Tough

• “I want a smart quarterback that makes good decisions… I don’t need you to take that big hit...” – Kurt Warner (29:06–30:30)

On Pressure

• “Pressure can make diamonds or burst pipes and make diamonds…That’s how it goes. I’m not fully sure.” – Josh Allen (41:55, paraphrased and discussed at 42:06–43:26)

Comic Relief

• “Read between the limes.” – Paulie (43:41)
• “Every cloud has a golden ceiling, you know…” – Dan Patrick (43:19, poking fun at mixed metaphors)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 05:25 – Live poll: Should Bucks keep or trade Giannis?
• 06:28–06:52 – Knicks/Brunson trade dilemma
• 07:24–08:43 – Chris Paul leadership and Clippers fallout
• 11:05–12:26 – “Eight-team” Hall of Famer trivia (Vince Carter/Moses Malone)
• 13:02–13:58 / 21:37–22:48 – Penn State coaching options discussed
• 14:48–17:00 – Imagining college football relegation system and playoff committee transparency
• 22:46–38:56 – Kurt Warner interview (NFL, college football, QB development)
• 41:55–43:26 – Josh Allen “pressure” metaphor dissected
• 44:56–46:51 – Misheard phrases, “Stranger Things” TV talk

Summary Tone

The episode maintains Dan Patrick’s signature blend of sports insight, playful banter, and sharp humor. Guests and hosts alike deliver honest, sometimes cutting, sometimes self-deprecating takes on the big stories of the day, from NBA trades and NFL strategy to behind-the-scenes college football machinations. The Kurt Warner appearance adds Hall of Fame gravitas and candor, especially on modern quarterback development and the complexities facing college athletes today.