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Jonas Knox
It's the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's lavar Arrington. I'm Jonas Knox in for Dan and the Guys, you can hear us weekday mornings alongside Brady Quinn on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe before the dan Patrick Show, 6:00am Eastern Time, 3:00 clock Pacific. But yesterday and today we are Dan and the Boys as we take you all the way up until noon Eastern Time, 9 o' clock Pacific. You can listen on the iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. If you're listening on the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. You can also watch us as well too. Today go to YouTube at 2 pros FSR on YouTube that is at 2 pros FSR. And you can hang out with us here on this three hour journey as we as we are rocking and rolling here. Lavar Good morning, everyone. I don't know if this is a sign of the times or maybe we have a little bit of a problem here, but Colorado and Coach Prime's Colorado Buffaloes, they had their spring game over the weekend. And according to Colorado Sports, only on social media, the attendance at the Colorado spring games has started to decline over the four years since Deion Sanders has taken over. In 2023, the first year, a little over 47,000 showed up to Boulder for the spring game. The next year it was 28,000. The year after that it was 20 and then approximately in between 17 and 18,000 over the weekend there in Boulder, Colorado. That according to Sean Keeler of the Denver Post. So the school was claiming that there was about 27 and change there, but upon further review, they might have rounded up an extra 10,000 to get to that number. And so there's some people that have speculated that, well, maybe, maybe the, the coolness and the newness of the Colorado program under Deion Sanders has kind of run its course. That along with the fact that, you know, coming off a disappointing season, there's a lot of stuff going on and you don't have Shador, you don't have Travis Hunter there. And so some people are worried about the state of affairs there in Colorado.
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Lavar Arrington
You don't have Shador, you don't have Travis Hunter. You were good enough to win four games when they were there, let that sink in. So we're saying that the drawing card was Coach Prime, Shador Sanders, Travis Hunter, but it didn't yield you a result like they had the, the great start. Didn't they start like three and oh, I believe his, his first year there. Yeah, and they had the big win against, what was it, tcu, early first game or something like that?
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Jonas Knox
Was it the bullfrogs I think they beat Nebraska. Didn't they beat Nebraska as well too? If I'm not mistaken, the first game
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Lavar Arrington
out, they were supposed to get, they were supposed to get spanked. I believe they. Here, here's what I'll say. Coach Deion Sanders brings a lot of the spotlight and attention his way, by the way he handles things. He's unapologetically who he is and he leads with his faith and his belief. He carries it through with his commitment to his family and the people that, that he cares about. And he's a master salesperson. He sells what, what he buys into. He was able to sell himself as, as a player. He's been able to sell himself as a coach. He was able to sell you his kids as players. He's been able to sell you Travis Hunter and ultimately he's been able to sell you the, the vision and the dream of what the Colorado Buffaloes program could potentially become under his leadership. He's, along the way sold you some Nike shoes. He sold you some blender, you know, sunglasses. Oh, yeah, he sold you some fried chicken. He's, he's, he's, he's selling you. The year before Deion Sanders got there, I believe the attendance was reported at 10,000 310,000. Some change, whatever it was. So even with his 50% fall off on attendance to, to spring game, it's more relevant and more significant than what it was when he got there. And I think sometimes we forget that those three wins was better than what they did when he got there. Those four wins that he got last year, it was better than what he did. Or, or, excuse me, the four wins the first year, the three wins last year, it was better than what it was when he got there. Building programs don't always come together like it did for Kirk Signetti in Indiana. It's an outlier. And when you look at how difficult it is, and especially in the Nil era time, how difficult it is to build a team, continue to grow the team, retain players and retain coaches, I think, I think it kind of comes across as there is a focal point that probably again, that Dion is most likely created by his personality in the way that he is. But Jonas, ultimately, I think what, what we're looking at here is the Deion Sanders effect. If this is any other school, why is this even a report?
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Jonas Knox
Right?
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Lavar Arrington
You're talking about a three win team, a four win team, four win team, three win team. Why else are we talking about this team right now?
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Jonas Knox
Because of Deion Sanders.
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Jonas Knox
And, and That's. I, I look at this and I go, if we just want to address some of the other stuff about Colorado. So some players who transferred and entered the portal. Cause they lost a lot of players who entered a lot of players. I think it was like 35 or some crazy number like that. But they've also added some players as well too. But there's. Some players have had made some comments about the program. Deion Sanders was pretty classy in his response to what they were saying, which. That whole thing especially, look, I can understand if it was back in the day and you didn't really have a ton of options and you were kind of stuck in this spot or whatever it was, but if you make the decision to leave someplace and you are also getting paid to leave that place, just shut up. Like, who? Who? Nobody cares about your complaints about the program. You made it clear and obvious that you wanted to go elsewhere, which is why you left to begin. Let it be. It wasn't for you. You didn't like the no social media stuff that he implemented? What, like, maybe there should be more of that, just in general for everybody. But I look at it and I go, you do realize the bucket of vomit that you were before he got there, right? Like, you do realize it was in a relevant program with zero buzz and zero interest. And I get that they haven't won a national title and they haven't won all these big games and they haven't been a playoff team and so on and so forth, but the fact that this is even a conversation, that it's even being talked about, I look at it and I go, whatever the win loss record is, it's a success. Because if it ain't zero, yeah, like
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Lavar Arrington
it's zero or one, it's a success.
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Jonas Knox
And if you want to make the decision after this year that you've got to move on or it's just not working, or, you know, his style isn't working, then that's fine. But I. You look back on this era of Colorado football and you can say that it peaked early and people lost interest down the stretch. Hard to argue with the fact that there's never been more interest in that program other than when they were winning national titles.
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Lavar Arrington
You can say that for college football,
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Jonas Knox
it was a rock concert.
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Lavar Arrington
You can say that for college sports that Deion Sanders invigorated all of sports with his inaugural year at Colorado.
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Jonas Knox
I think it was great, man.
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Lavar Arrington
He was a rising tide for everyone his first year in Colorado. Everyone, hey, you need to resurface get your name out, get your brand out, Go to a Colorado game. Hey, you want to get your name out there? You want. You want to get some. Some press, some media? Go visit prime in his office.
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Jonas Knox
They had. Was it Lil Wayne, Machine Gun Kelly,
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Lavar Arrington
like, the names are. So that list is so long. Of people who walked through. Thanks for my invite, Dion. Of all those people who walked through the doors and visited Coach prime, whether it was game day, whether it was off days, and just came into the office, you know, it was a who's who of people circulating through Boulder, Colorado. And if you took a poll with any of those people, those celebrities that came there, I would probably be willing to bet the bank that most of them had never been to the University of Colorado before then.
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Jonas Knox
By the way, want to correct my. I. I don't think Machine Gun Kelly actually performed in Boulder, Colorado, but he should have. All right. He should have. So that's his. All right. It's not my fault.
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Lavar Arrington
Was he there? Did he visit?
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, who knows?
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Lavar Arrington
Probably there.
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Jonas Knox
But it was a who's who of everybody that wanted to be a part of the biggest show in football, and it's why it was talked about and discussed the way that it was. So when I see this stuff come out to where people like, oh, my God, the spring game numbers are down. Okay.
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Lavar Arrington
They gave you what you wanted.
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Jonas Knox
And by the way, who knows if the weather, you know, whether the weather was cooperating. I saw that there was some thunderstorms and things like that. Maybe people didn't want to stand in the rain to go watch Colorado out of practice in a spring game. Like, what do you.
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Jonas Knox
It's. The spring game is free for a reason. Like, if you show up, you show up. If not, whatever.
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Lavar Arrington
Parking isn't free.
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Jonas Knox
They charge you for parking?
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Lavar Arrington
I believe so.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, what do you want? You want it to be?
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Lavar Arrington
What do you want?
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Jonas Knox
You want it to be? Georgia spring game where they're handing out. They're handing out condoms because ludicrous is performing.
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Lavar Arrington
Dang. They did that with. With Snoop at the Kentucky Midnight Matt.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, that one as well, too. It's like, what am I supposed to do with this? Make balloon animals?
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Lavar Arrington
Shoot some rubbers out? Everybody's coming. I went to. I've been to the last three Penn State Blue White games
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Jonas Knox
total.
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Lavar Arrington
Totally different from what it was in the early, early 2000s, late 90s. Totally different. You go this. I. I went last. When I went last year. No, it's just desolate. Like, I went last year going really?
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Jonas Knox
No Buzz.
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Lavar Arrington
No. Well, I don't know about this year, but last year, and we were basically being considered the national champs like to compete for it.
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Jonas Knox
Number two, Nobody was there, man. Wow.
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Lavar Arrington
Nobody was there. Like, it was very. Again, it was like tumbleweeds. Like, it's not what I. I was accustomed to when I was there. And I'm not trying to make it an I thing, but it's different. I think the landscape of spring ball is very different than what it has been. And. And I think historically, if we're trying to compare what it is now to what it's becoming, and that's why you saw Dion talking about having a different team to play in in the spring game, maybe that would bring a level of excitement to the fan base. Maybe that would be a drawing card to come. Because outside of Deion Sanders using his influence to bring in these acts, to bring in these celebrities and superstars to come be a part of the landscape of Boulder, you don't have that. You don't have that anywhere. And. And so when you look at why he's been able to do it, who did he have perform this year? Do we know? Did he have anybody perform this year?
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Lavar Arrington
You know, there's things that people can look at and say, okay, did. Did this person performing hold the weight of. Of people coming out and wanting to see a. A glorified practice, a walk through? It's not a. It's not a scrimmage anymore. Guys aren't going live. It's not. You're keeping score. Who wins black or gold? Like, it's not that anymore. It's a practice. So what, we're gonna take off and go see this and fill in and pack out this stadium for the sake of people being able to say that 40, 000 people were here, 60, 000 people were here. Like, that used to be a flex, but I don't think that exists anymore.
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Jonas Knox
Ye way, you know, people got other plans. You know, it's a Saturday, you know, you know, weather's in the 70s, it might rain, it might not. Next thing you know, you know, some guys out there smoking the hippie lettuce, having a couple of throat burners. You know, people want to have a good time.
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Lavar Arrington
If you're using it to have a good time. And that's why you went to do all that. The throat burner, the lettuce, the.
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Jonas Knox
The.
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Lavar Arrington
The. The high, high powered lettuce.
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Jonas Knox
Get on some of that liver lube,
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Lavar Arrington
the liver lubing, all that stuff that you're doing. You might want to do that and go in and see the new players or go see what's going on or whatever it may be. All I'm saying is, is that the criticisms that are coming towards Deion Sanders, while I'll say the attention that he garners would say it's justified for him to get the criticisms, I'll say on the other side of it, I don't think that it is proper in the sense that turning this into a sensational, sensationalized story of the fall or the demise of Deion Sanders and the Colorado football team when he's basically dealing with the same exact challenges that everybody else is in college football is a tad bit, that's, that's a tad bit out
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Jonas Knox
of line to me.
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Lavar Arrington
That's a little out of pocket.
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Jonas Knox
He didn't take over Alabama after Saban left, you know what I mean? Like, he took over an awful program. They were terrible. They were a onewin team before he got there.
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Lavar Arrington
And now you expect them to be a national title contender, Val. You expect them to be in the College Football Playoff and that's how it's supposed to be.
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Jonas Knox
Why?
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Lavar Arrington
Because you took the cheese. Dion again, as I started the, the, the segment off with Dion has been selling you on his greatness since he was in college.
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Jonas Knox
And by the way, it's not exactly like he's rolling out there 100 healthy either. I mean the guy lost part of his foot.
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Lavar Arrington
He's been fighting, he's lost fighting health
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Jonas Knox
and you know, his inside gain.
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Lavar Arrington
A dope looking girlfriend though.
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Jonas Knox
Oh yeah.
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Lavar Arrington
I mean he ain't hey, when he's best recruit, when he's recruiting for himself, he ain't missing, that's all.
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Jonas Knox
I'm just saying like, hey, he ain't
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Lavar Arrington
missing on delivering them recruits.
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Jonas Knox
What, whatever, whatever happens with this whole thing, if it ends up looked on in that, that regard, if it ends up, you know, you know, they don't end up winning more than, you know, four or five games and, and they decide they want to move on or whatnot. So what just sold you say thank you. He sold thank you because, because he brought, he brought the program back to relevance and aft. And that's really, I, I, I look at it and I, I never looked at Colorado and Dion getting there as if what's their win loss record and how they do in bowl games. I look at it as well, Are they, are they interesting again? Yes. Would it be nice to win some games? Yes. And they did. Maybe not the big ones. You know, he Also had a Heisman Trophy winner. He had a guy come out of Colorado who was a fifth round pick, who was the story of an entire draft as well too. All of that is to his credit. All while doing this with serious medical issues.
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Lavar Arrington
Not on. No gushing over Dion either. This is my former teammate. I have a ton of respect for him, a ton of admiration. I always tell the story. My rookie year, I was out of shape coming into camp. Deion Sanders pulled me aside and conditioned with me after every practice and training camp. Dion is not the diva that people think he is. He is a very meticulous. He meticulous. He is a very, very regiment oriented dude. He is a very process driven dude. Almost to the point of where you could say it's like a like OCD type stuff. Like the dude is about his business. So the things that people kind of portray or experience, thinks they experience or know about him may not be very accurate. And I say this all to say, what is the ultimate goal of trying. Like it always seems like the stories that surface about Deion Sanders are always negatively driven. What is the ultimate goal? Because at the end of the day, if your negativity leads to Deion Sanders getting fired, he don't need no money. Dion is not hurting for money. So if you get rid of him, okay, he's not coaching anymore. He gets to go off and do whatever it is, whatever else he's going to do. Probably may, may rest, enjoy. Life could come back into to media. He killed it doing that.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah.
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Lavar Arrington
They didn't push him out. He rolled out to come coach. He could easily go back into that. What is the ultimate goal is what I always wonder when you see all of these stories, because it's like fact that this man leans into who he is, his, his faith, his accomplishments, what he expects. It truly offends people. And I don't understand why Dion is so offensive to the people that are watching him.
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Jonas Knox
You mentioned ocd. You ever been around somebody who had full blown ocd?
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Lavar Arrington
Yes.
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Jonas Knox
Okay, let me tell you something. I used to work with this guy.
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Lavar Arrington
Work with one. I maybe used to. Are you going to say used to?
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Jonas Knox
Well, no. I used to work with this guy at, at a previous job who had mean full. I mean we're talking this guy had heavy duty OCD where he had to like touch the wall a certain number of times as he walked by and hold the railing a certain number of times as he walked by. And every time I'd see him and the guy looked like Beethoven too, which is Awesome.
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Lavar Arrington
I don't know what Beethoven looks like.
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Jonas Knox
Well, you know, I'll.
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Lavar Arrington
I'll just use my imagination.
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Jonas Knox
So every time I'd see this guy walk, I knew he had to touch the railing a certain way to walk by. I would cut in between him and
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Lavar Arrington
the railing just right at that point.
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Jonas Knox
Oh, it's great.
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Lavar Arrington
Did he stop?
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Jonas Knox
Oh, yeah, like, stop. Like. Almost went into convulsions.
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Lavar Arrington
Yeah, he has. You disrupted his process. That ain't right, bro.
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Jonas Knox
Hey, that's.
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Lavar Arrington
You wanted them dudes, they had.
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Jonas Knox
You know what?
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Lavar Arrington
You was growing up with your nose in the corner. That's one. You were one of them dudes.
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Jonas Knox
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Jonas Knox
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Well, you're, you're sensitive with the whole hand thing, so I could see why you would take that, that angle. That's my little shot that I took. You could take it. You could take it.
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Jonas Knox
It's a Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Lavar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. Coming up a little over 15 minutes from now, we are going to get into a story that, well, not a great one, especially with the draft coming up right around the corner for somebody in the world of football. So we'll get into that for you right here on fsr. By the way, a reminder you can Watch us on YouTube Pros FSR that is 2 Pros FSR where you can check us out and hang out with us here on YouTube. You can also check us out on the iHeartRadio app where you can stream us wherever you happen to be. Catch us in all of our Fox sports radio shows live 24. 7 in the new and improved iHeartradio app search FOX Sports Radio in the app to stream us live all day every day and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets in the iHeart app so it will always pop up at the top of your screen so Roger Goodell over the weekend this it's kind of funny. There's been some speculation that Kyle Shanahan not exactly thrilled with the idea of the 49ers opening up the year in Australia. Especially when you're opening up the year in Australia against a team that you can literally get on a flight and be there in 50 minutes in the LA Rams and Roger Goodell over the weekend was asked about Kyle Shanahan having some concerns and some issue with the fact that the Niners got to go all the way to Australia to start their season. And he had this to say Coach
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Roger Goodell (quoted)
Shanahan is enthusiastic and a great football coach, but also someone who truly understands the importance of expanding our game globally. But his job is to win. His job is to play. And I always say coaches like to play at 1 o' clock and 4 o' clock and don't get in the way of that. So we're going to make it a great experience for the team.
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Jonas Knox
Which is code for yeah, that's cool,
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Lavar Arrington
shut your ass up and get on that plane.
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Jonas Knox
It's like, but just the idea. This just further points to the fact whether it's the 18 games, whether it's the flexing, whether it's Roger Goodell and the people atop the NFL do not give a crap whether or not the players or the coaches like the scheduling or care about what it does to their body physically. If it means they can make money in a new market or in a new time slot or on a new streaming service, they're going to do it. End of story.
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Lavar Arrington
Are there any head coaches around? From Paul Tagliavu, I know Andy Reid was coaching the Eagles, but did Goodell take over before he went to My whole thing is, I think how many, how many players from when Roger Goodell took over are still in the league? How many coaches are head coaches that were head coaches when Roger Goodell took over?
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, oh, six.
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Lavar Arrington
Oh, six. Same year.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, 2006, when he took over as commissioner.
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Lavar Arrington
How many players from 2006 are still in the league?
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Jonas Knox
I don't think any.
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Lavar Arrington
Okay.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah.
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Lavar Arrington
So here's the reality of it. Cal Shanahan is right. Protect. Protect your best interest as best you can, because your interest is only the interest. While you are still the head coach of the team that you're the head coach of. That could change at any point in time. Roger Goodell does have a job to do and he's doing it and he's doing it fine and well enough where he has continued to be the leadership of this National Football League. And these franchises, business is booming. Look at the amount of money that these franchises are selling for on the open market. They're in the Bees. So while you can sit there and say there are no real pros for Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers to go play in Australia, this is something that's like, you look at it and it's like, it's with the Rams. It's the Rams game. So now not only are you pulling them away from, from America and putting them in an entirely different, an entirely different time slot with being in Australia, but you're talking about. That's a. How long. That's a 40 minute hour. Minute hour flight.
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Jonas Knox
45, 50 minute flight from LA to San Francisco and right next to LAX,
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Lavar Arrington
which is a home game for the 49ers.
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Jonas Knox
Yes.
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Lavar Arrington
Because the 49ers take over so far when they play them there. So this is automatically a, a mental advantage, a gamesmanship advantage for the Rams going into the season. This is a divisional opponent. I just don't understand how to me, in, in these moments, you don't weigh and measure out what would be a more feasible game to put in these, these, these overseas markets. I think that's too big of a game. That's too good of a game to put over there.
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Jonas Knox
Because I look at it and I go, well, maybe the thought process was they're both west coast teams, so you don't want to give somebody an advantage. Because I believe the flight from San Francisco to Australia is in between 14 to 16 hours, which is wild. You could get drunk four times on that flight and get some naps in. So I'm hoping to be on it. And if you're doing it, it's going to be with the Miller Light. But the point is, maybe the thought process was, well, we'll send a couple of west coast teams over there. Maybe that would make more sense or teams in the same time zone. So that way nobody has an advantage
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Lavar Arrington
team, I'll tell you that.
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Jonas Knox
Because if you think about it, and there's been some conversation and I know Sean McVeigh got some heat for this and, and they were kind of busting his balls a little bit. But Kyle Shanahan and Matt LaFleur making the point that, well, we think Sean McVay campaign game played in Australia because they didn't like the fact that the Niners took over Sofi every year, which in defense, and I've said this before in defense of, of LA football fans, the franchise has left for 20 years, so people started shopping elsewhere. So it's going to take some time for the Rams and. Or the Chargers, but specifically the Rams to really dominate. And it doesn't help that when you do win a Super bowl, one of the politicians who's giving a speech is wearing a St. Louis Rams jersey. That doesn't help either. But if I look at this and I'm Kyle Shanahan or even if I'm Sean McVeigh, I'm thinking that's not a great start to the year, man. Like that. And I don't.
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Lavar Arrington
If I'm Sean McVeigh, I don't have that, that opinion of it. Like, I feel better about it if I'm McVeigh, really it's gamesmanship because it's an away game, it's an extra away game where you would have had to have used or looked at Sofi as an extra extended home game for the San Francisco 49ers. Let me raise another couple, couple points for you too, by the way. If, if the 49ers in this game were to lose this game and they missed the playoffs by, let's just say, one game, does this, does this come back as a story, a storyline connected to why going overseas and some in some instances are detrimental to a season? Yeah, that's one, two. You do know what date this game is being played on right now? I'm a first responder guy. If you know me, you know I'm. I'm very, very intense on first responders, our military and our veterans. If you know me, you know that that's what I'm into. My family, all that stuff. That's a wounded warrior. You get that this game is on what day, Jonas?
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Jonas Knox
September 11th.
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Lavar Arrington
Why the hell are you taking America's game somewhere else and playing it on September 11th?
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Jonas Knox
But it, it's going to be technically September 10th. Out here, it's September 11th.
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Lavar Arrington
There I don't give a good gosh darn on the technically, too close, too sentimental, too much value. Don't do it. Choose a different date. At least respect our country's history in this moment and do it on a different date.
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Jonas Knox
Well, but out here in the States where I think that date matters the most, it's September 10, it's. So it's September 11. In Australia, it's, it's Friday morning. Out here, it's Thursday evening.
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Lavar Arrington
Yeah, you got my, you heard me. I hear what you're saying.
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Jonas Knox
I just, I hear what you're saying. I think that too close any, any international game, if you're going to put teams out of their rhythm. And look, you and Brady have talked about this before. Team like, and I've heard like guys like Brian or Lacquer said, I look, Monday night's cool. The primetime games are cool. If it were up to me, I play every game at noon, Central time, every game at noon. So at least, you know, going into it, I think every international game that they send teams over to play should be built around a bi week, everyone, because it makes it more. Because then, look, rest wise, health wise, flight back wise, all of that stuff, it doesn't get you out of your rhythm. And if, if those guys want to hang out in whatever country they're visiting for a little while, you'll see UFC fighters and, and boxers do this all the time. They'll go fight internationally or someplace like that and they'll hang out after the fight for a little bit just to enjoy and take in the sights and sounds of a new place. The fact that you're starting out your year on a 15 hour flight or whatever it is from the west coast to Australia and it's against a team that you could be playing at their doorstep in 45 minutes on a plane. It just, that's the part that I don't really understand. I just, I don't, I don't get it. It doesn't make any. I understand the financial aspect of it, but from a scheduling standpoint, I just don't understand.
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Lavar Arrington
Again, it comes back down. And I'm standing on September 11th, by the way. Like, you're not going to talk me out of it. You ain't going to hit me with A it's the 10th and this and that. I'm standing on the fact that, that close to September 11, on September 11, that that should be a game that is on American soil. I'm standing on that. It's America's game. It should be being played in America at that point in time, I'm standing on that. But here's another issue that I take with these games and the expansion of how many games they're trying to have overseas during the course of a season, is that we have continued to have the conversation of how important football became to American people, what it represented during war times, what it represented during the transition from, you know, radio to television, television production, what it looked like, what our personality as a country was built on. It was built on, really the brands and the personalities that we saw in the National Football League. It was and became America's pastime. Took it away. Took the throne away from baseball. And to turn this game into such a corporately driven game, where you're taking the game away from the people who made it what it is now today, the behemoth that it has become, to me, I find it to be a tad bit. Bit disingenuous in terms of how I view them moving forward. Because you are now proving and showing that this isn't about the family. This is about the dollar. And while it was probably about the dollar when it was about the family, your business model centered around the game being about the family. When people like me, we were growing up, it was something that you did as a family. You could do it because it was right here, right in front of you. You could go, you could afford it. You could get food. You could. You could take the bus or you could drive. You could tailgate. You met people, talk to people. I. I. On God, I saw people with my family that would talk on Sunday. And you see some of them same people in the grocery store on Monday, Tuesday, no words. That was the day and age I grew up in. No words. Sunday, Sub bro. Steelers, baby. The curtain, let's get it.
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Jonas Knox
Today.
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Lavar Arrington
You want a hot dog? You want a link? Hey, you want a Kabasi? Like. Like Tuesday, Monday, Crickets.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, it's.
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Lavar Arrington
It brought everybody together now. It's not that anymore, Jonas.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, And I also think, you know, think about the. The fans of these g. Like, you know, season ticket holders, fans who have, you know, those attached with them. Now all of a sudden, they lose a home game because it goes to Australia.
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Lavar Arrington
Correct.
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Jonas Knox
There's. So there. There's that as well, too.
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Lavar Arrington
Correct.
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Jonas Knox
And, you know, maybe they have first. I don't know how the season ticket stuff works in the NFL. Maybe they have first writer refus tickets if they want it, but, man, maybe not everybody, you know, in and around El Segundo wants to get on a plane for close to 20 hours to go, fly to Australia to go get run over by a kangaroo and watch Matt Stafford throw 1 yard touchdowns to Devonte Adams. Like, like, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe they don't want to be a part of that whole kangaroo Jack in the building. So yeah, I look at it and I go, it's just, it's kind of, it's a strange decision by the NFL, but, but, you know, if they can make a buck, they can make a buck. Despite Kyle Shanahan's complaints, it is the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys coming up next here, we've got some information and it is not the good kind for one person in the world of football. And that's yours right here on fsr.
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Jonas Knox
It's a Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's lavar Arrington. I'm Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys coming up top of next hour. We'll call it a little over 10 minutes from now. If you need a little red ass in your life, the one and only Pete Prisco is your guy. He will be joining us here. Senior NFL Columnist for CBS Sports. Always a fun conversation, some ball busting et cetera, et cetera with the great Pete Prisco here again top of next hour a little over 10 minutes from now. By the way, if you've missed any of today's show and you want to catch the podcast, just search two pros wherever you get your podcast right after the show. Today's pot will be posted. Be sure to follow it. Rated 5 stars. You can even provide a review. Again, just search two pros wherever. Get your podcast you find today's full show and a best of version posted right after we get off the air. You can also check us out on YouTube at 2 Pros FSR on YouTube if you'd like. One of the guys that we're Going to ask Pete Prisco about is Reuben Bane Jr. Who's, you know, one of the, the top prospects in the NFL draft, first round pick, et cetera, et cetera. There was a story that came out a couple of days ago that I, it was the first time I had heard the story, but in 2024, Bain was cited for careless driving for the accident that occurred at about 4am local time in Florida. And according to this, the crash report alleges that Bain was driving a 2021 Land Rover SUV that had three other passengers in the car, one of which was 22 year old Destiny Betts. Bain's vehicle rear ended. Another car veered into a concrete barrier, then ricocheted into another barrier before coming to arrest on the shoulder of the highway. Destiny Bets was taken to Ryder Trauma Center, Miami. According to the read optional, it reported that she was in a coma for nearly three months before she died from her injuries in June of 2024. And so while Bane was cited at the time of the incident, charges were dropped prior to her death. And in a statement given to the read optional, Bets's family called the crash quote, a tragic accident and they wish Mr. Bane the best as he continues his life and career. So he was entering his sophomore season at the time of the accident. I had not heard of this story before reading about this over the past, you know, 24, 48 hours. But apparently, and according to CBS, teams in the NFL knew about this. So they knew about this report. And I look at it and I go and we kind of mentioned this briefly yesterday, but I don't know since teams know about this, whether or not it's going to drop him on draft boards or if there's going to be some teams that may be shy away because of this. But it does I guess point to the fact that the NFL draft, if you've got a flaw, if you've got a blemish, some that are fair, some that are unfair, through this process, man, they do some digging and they find some things out and they will figure out what it is. And look, some of this stuff is manufactured. This clearly is not. And so I do wonder what the narrative is on him and how it's changed going into this draft.
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Lavar Arrington
I don't think it changes at all. It doesn't make his arms longer, it doesn't change what he's done in his, in his workouts. And so when you look at the gravity of, of this situation, one has nothing to do with the other because he, it wasn't, it doesn't appear that it was a irresponsible car accident that took place. It was what? It was a car accident. They didn't find any drugs or alcohol in his system. The charges of careless or whatever type of driving they charged them with, those charges were dropped. So I don't think that there's any bearing on his draft, his draft stock and his status based upon, you know, know, based upon this information that they've already had for quite some time.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah. Because we heard, you know, similar stuff about Jalen Carter when that came out, when he was coming out of the draft.
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Lavar Arrington
So it's a little different.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah. So now we'll see. There's a little difference. It is Lavar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for the Dan Patrick show right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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