Paulie (5:16)

We had a poll question up there.

Dan Patrick (5:18)

As well that people could vote on.

Paulie (5:20)

Let me just get the results from yesterday for you, okay? We had five options for people.

Dan Patrick (5:26)

All right.

Paulie (5:31)

Let'S see. We had if I'm going too slow, Todd Fritz said, go around me.

Dan Patrick (5:36)

He had left lane, camper. We had life in the past.

Paulie (5:39)

Lane, move. Fritz, get out the way. And then we also had. If I passed you on the right.

Dan Patrick (5:44)

You must be Todd Fitz. Very personal. Very personalized.

Paulie (5:50)

All of these make great bumper stickers.

Dan Patrick (5:52)

Yeah, they do.

Paulie (5:53)

There's no doubt about that.

Dan Patrick (5:54)

Yes, they do.

Paulie (5:54)

There's no doubt about that. Let's see, right now, the audience seems to like.

Dan Patrick (6:02)

God, I can't see which one as my eyes are going.

Paulie (6:04)

If I'm going too slow, Todd Fritz said, go around me.

Dan Patrick (6:08)

Okay, Seems to be the favor. All right, we'll come up with a T shirt by the end of the day available@danpatrick.com and we'll, we'll sell it over the weekend. Yes, Todd. I love the colors of the traffic lights. The red. Yeah, that really pops. That's. That's true. We put up three T shirts if you're watching on Peacock. So you have red, yellow. Well done. Green. All right. By the way, thank you for downloading the app with Peacock on our radio affiliates around the country. Chris Sims from Football night America will stop by. We'll have the most must win game of the weekend coming up a little bit later on as well. Seahawks hold off the Cardinals, and Seattle now improves to 3 and 1, a quiet 3 and 1. By the way, Viking Steelers will be in Ireland coming up on Sunday morning. Some of the other great games. Eagles, Buccaneers. I think if the Buccaneers win this game and Baker Mayfield plays well, he'll be your leading candidate for mvp. The Colts and the Rams, Ravens, Chiefs, Bengals and the Broncos, just to name a few. College football weekend as well. We'll run down some of those games. My favorite game is Washington hosting Ohio State because Washington is good at home. They got a really good offense, and that went from ten and a half down to seven and a half. So the sharps are all over u dub in this 1 877-3-DP Show. Email address dp danpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP show we've talked about quarterbacks. We certainly did in the first hour. Felt like there was, I don't know, piling on last night on Thursday night football with Tony Gonzalez and Richard Sherman talking about Russell Wilson not being a hall of famer. We watched Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray has as much talent as. As anybody who's played that position. It feels like. And I think I've said This many times. And I would say it to Kyler Murray, it almost came too easy for him. And this isn't all on him, but I still believe sometimes when you have too much talent, you think you can get away with more. You try to extend the play. Lamar Jackson does this. Caleb Williams does this. Kyler Murray, you're trying to make a play. You're so used to making a play. I could do this in high school, I could do this in college. You can't do this consistently in the NFL. And Lamar Jackson's doing less of this, even though he just got sacked, what, seven times by the Lions. Kyler Murray got sacked, what, six times last night. Those are. Those are horrible numbers. He shouldn't be getting sacked that many times. Now, granted, offensive lines, they vary and how good they are, but a quarterback can still get rid of the ball. I don't care how good the rush is, you can still get rid of the ball. And I think a lot of these quarterbacks now don't want to throw, whether take a chance for an interception or an incompletion. They. Everybody is kind of caught up in these numbers here. Certainly touchdown to interception ratio. And I brought it up yesterday that somebody had told me it was Russ trying to guard his numbers because the last drive that he had with the Giants, you throw it out of the end zone like he threw passes that couldn't be caught by anybody and you didn't give your team a chance. And somebody former quarterback, said sometimes you start to guard your stats late in your career. And Russ has the fifth best. Yeah, touchdown to interception ratio in the history of the game. He was fourth a month ago. But, yeah, last night Richard Sherman, former teammate and Tony Gonzalez said, basically, Russ is washed and the legion of Boom is the reason why he was successful in Seattle. I don't think either of those are correct. Do I think he could still play for the Bengals? Would he be an upgrade over Jake Browning? I do. I do believe that, and I do. The legion of Boom was unbelievable. But Russ in the last five years, put up incredible numbers for a team that didn't have a good defense. The offense stayed the same, scoring 25 points on average. The defense was giving up 25 points, but Russ did his part. The last couple of years haven't been good at all. And I think recency bias, everybody has a strong opinion about Russell Wilson. Cam Newton had some things to say about Tuatanga Violoa. He said that he's making more than Mahomes and Herbert. Lamar Jackson, Hertz Mayfield, Stafford, Jaden Daniels. And he is trying to put things into perspective. He sees Tua and it feels like he's not all in. He. He said, when you're being paid what you're asked to do, what you have the capability of from one quarterback to another, I look at the situation like, come on, dog. Especially when you've got a Ferrari and a Lamborghini and other amenities that other quarterbacks don't or wish they had. So that's, you know, you have Jalen Waddle and you have Tyree Kill. So here is Tua talking about Cam Newton.

Paulie (11:27)

Anybody can play quarterback in this league. Then.

Dan Patrick (11:29)

I mean, I, I want to see anybody on the streets come play quarterback. I mean, Cam.

Paulie (11:34)

Cam's doing his thing for sure, but, you know, to it. It. I think it's easier to be able to hold a clicker and talk about it that way or talk about what someone else is doing wrong when you're. You're not going out and having to.

Dan Patrick (11:48)

Do the same as them. Right?

Paulie (11:50)

So I think it's.

Dan Patrick (11:51)

It's. It's all.

Paulie (11:52)

It's easy to do that. I think anybody can do that. I don't think anybody can play quarterback.

Dan Patrick (11:56)

Well, wait, Tua, hold on. Cam was an mvp. Cam went to a Super Bowl. Cam was a great quarterback. He's not a clipboard holder. He's not Chase Daniel breaking down film or Dan Orlovsky. Whoa. Well, no, I like. He could critique those guys because they didn't play at a high level. Okay. Or as often. But now all of a sudden, you know, you can take anybody off the street. That's not what Cam was saying. You have weapons, you're accurate, and you should be better. And he played the position. Now, if I say it, Tua can say, what does he know? And he would be right. But you can't say that about Cam Newton. Cam played the position at a very high level. He helped carry an offense to the Super Bowl. I mean, to get to the postseason and win a game. And yes, this is what happens. You know, you got a big. You got a big contract, and you didn't deserve that contract. They. They never should have given you that contract based off your health and some of the results against quality teams. They should have made you play one more year and then franchise you and then franchise you. But they went all in and they'll regret that. But Cam has every right to be able to be critical of your quarterback play. He's not a clipboard holder. Let's see a couple of phone calls in Here, Seaton. What's the poll question for hour two?

Paulie (13:40)

We got two of them up there.

Dan Patrick (13:43)

Let's see. We put two up for hour one.

Paulie (13:47)

We have Vikings letting Sam Darnold leave was right at the time. Or we'll haunt them. We'll haunt them. Has 62% of that vote the NFL franchise that.

Dan Patrick (13:54)

How many times were you voting Paulie for that will haunt them?

Paulie (13:57)

I'm not a haunter.

Dan Patrick (13:59)

Yeah, but you're a Sam Darnolder.

Paulie (14:00)

I'm a Darnoldist.

Dan Patrick (14:01)

Yes, you're a Darnold. Oh, my God.

Paulie (14:03)

Early.

Dan Patrick (14:04)

You were in early. I didn't hear from you when he was in, like, Carolina and some of.

Paulie (14:09)

These other places abided by time, lying in wait.

Dan Patrick (14:12)

You were playing the long game. Okay.

Paulie (14:14)

It was a big 49ers era.

Dan Patrick (14:17)

Huge.

Paulie (14:18)

Now that they got a real quarterback, watch out. Sam and I are playing the long game.

Dan Patrick (14:21)

Dan, what else do you have?

Paulie (14:25)

NFL franchise that feels least competitive year to year?

Dan Patrick (14:27)

Your options?

Paulie (14:28)

There are Cardinals, Browns, jets.

Dan Patrick (14:30)

Other. Right now the jets have 47% of that. Yeah, I would have voted for the jets as well. I would. That's a mess. That's just. That's the best. You know, when you see. I saw a Jets fan, he had his jersey on, and he was in the supermarket on. On Sunday. And I said, hey, good luck. And he. He looked at me and he goes, about what? And I said, no, your team. He goes, oh, we need more in luck. We need talent. And I said, okay. Like, I don't know. Seems like they're. They're on an uptick with Aaron Glenn nearly pulled out the win against Tampa Bay. I'm just trying to be nice, you know? Yes, Paulie.

Paulie (15:11)

I think that's what's maybe more frustrating about the Jets. I think they have a talented roster. I mean, they've got a very good wide receiver, a very good cornerback sauce. They were aggressive trying to get even when they traded up for Sanchez. They are aggressive. They spend and it never works.

Dan Patrick (15:28)

They.

Paulie (15:28)

They are not a franchise that doesn't spend or doesn't try things and it just doesn't work.

Dan Patrick (15:32)

I don't think they've had good coaches, haven't been able to find, you know, their next Joe Namath. And I don't know, it just always feels like it's an inferior product because you're playing in Giant Stadium. You're the jets and you play in Giant Stadium. Yes. Todd, how does one gauge a culture change, which is what Aaron Glenn spoke about before he took the job of other than wins and losses when. How many moral victories can you have? You know, as far as a culture change and going in the right direction if you're not still winning. I haven't been involved in something like that where it's a culture change. I was hoping for one my first year at Eastern Kentucky, but then I realized that I was the one who was going to have to change. You were the culture change. Let's get rid of that guy. Get rid of Golden Boy. He my Golly, Golden Boy.

Paulie (16:21)

Get out of here.

Dan Patrick (16:24)

But I don't. You know, Dan Campbell. That's a culture change. I think Pete Carroll had a culture change, whether it was with USC or Seattle. I remember asking Pete, I said, man, you're leaving USC to go to Seattle. And he said, there's a. That's a hidden. I forget what it was, but it was something hidden. There's a lot of talent there. And he was probably getting away from USC with sanctions looming. Let me see Zach in Knoxville. Hey, Zach, what's on your mind today? Adp.

Paulie (16:55)

Thanks for taking my call.

Dan Patrick (16:57)

Two things.

Paulie (16:57)

One, everything you were just saying about TUA and what Cam said, minus the injuries I would put on Kyler Murray.

Dan Patrick (17:05)

I don't think he's a starting quarterback in the league, and that's just my take.

Paulie (17:10)

And to take a big left turn. Since you dabble in the arts, I wanted to know if you have any comments on the Riyadh Comedy Festival that's coming up.

Dan Patrick (17:20)

Since it seems like sports washing is making its way into other avenues of entertainment. I haven't delved into it. I don't know anything about who's going to be over there. I know Shane Gillis turned it down, but I have no idea who's going to be involved in it. So thanks for the phone call. Zach James in Austin. Hi, James. What's on your mind? Hey, dp, how you doing, man? Good.

Paulie (17:54)

I had a T shirt idea.

Dan Patrick (17:55)

Okay. And maybe it's more of a philosophy for how fast Todd goes off the.

Paulie (18:00)

Rails, but Gone in for two Seconds.

Dan Patrick (18:03)

Oh, man. One of my favorite movies, by the way. Gone in 60 seconds. Angelina Jolie, Nicholas Cage. Yes, Paul.

Paulie (18:13)

Is that a good bad movie or a good hokey movie?

Dan Patrick (18:16)

But see, they could have been the Fast and Furious.

Paulie (18:19)

Were they first or.

Dan Patrick (18:20)

I think they had it.

Paulie (18:21)

Checking.

Dan Patrick (18:22)

I think they had it. Nicholas Cage, what's his name?

Paulie (18:25)

Like Montana Reigns or something like that? Yeah, Memphis Reigns.

Dan Patrick (18:30)

Memphis.

Paulie (18:32)

I'll give you a bloop, though.

Dan Patrick (18:33)

Giovanni Ribisi.

Paulie (18:36)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Angelina Jolie, he was like Sort of like the tweaker engine guy.

Dan Patrick (18:41)

Yeah. I'm gonna fix this. Robert Duvall. Yes. Marvin. The best part is that's not. To me, that's not even his best great bad movie. It's Con Air. Okay.

Paulie (18:51)

The accent alone. I told you I was gonna get that doll back.

Dan Patrick (18:56)

Or however you said it. John Malkovich.

Paulie (19:00)

Nicolas Cage plays Cameron Poe in Con Air.

Dan Patrick (19:04)

Yeah, but how about Pig? That's different eras, though. That's different.

Paulie (19:09)

You can't include the pig era in the Con Air.

Dan Patrick (19:12)

The rock era. I want my pig. I want my pig bag.

Paulie (19:18)

Gone in 60 seconds. Came out one year before they could.

Dan Patrick (19:21)

Have been fast and furious.

Paulie (19:23)

One year before fast and Furious.

Dan Patrick (19:24)

Yes.

Paulie (19:25)

Better hokey movie. Going to 60 seconds. Original fast and Furious. That's insulting too. The Fast and Furious franchise.

Dan Patrick (19:32)

Fast and Furious. Hey. Had it. As soon as I saw it, I said, oh, my God, you got great cars and hot women.

Paulie (19:39)

That was the original title.

Dan Patrick (19:40)

That's it should have been. It should have been Hot women, great cars. Yes. Ton, I'm embarrassed to say I was gone in like 15 seconds, but everyone's different.

Paulie (19:49)

Time to break.

Dan Patrick (19:51)

Take a break. Chris Sims will join us right after this Dan Patrick show.

Paulie (19:56)

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Paulie (25:14)

Well, yeah, I mean, you know, first off, I, I don't think I had him in the hall of Fame anyways, so I think that's still a debatable topic there a little bit.

Dan Patrick (25:21)

All right.

Paulie (25:22)

NFL legend, right? One of the better quarterbacks of our era for sure. But hall of Fame, I'm not really ready to say that about Russell Wilson. Now, the criticism, you know, again, I think a lot of it has to do with his play, and I think a little bit has to do with his personality and how he's viewed not only by the public, but how people view him, I think in the football world in locker room stuff like that, right? We, we've seen a number of locker rooms that, yeah, Russell Wilson's a nice guy, but is he a leader? Is he one of the guys, right? Is he respected like one of the guys? I think that's been debatable in certain places. There was a lot of talk of that last year in Pittsburgh, Denver. You didn't, you didn't hear anybody there sticking up, going, man, he really got a raw deal there, right? You didn't really hear about it in Seattle either. And he kind of forced his way out of that situation. So I think between that acting maybe like he's a Hall of Famer and then playing like he's barely a starter in the NFL, that's probably where we are right now. As far as the criticism around Russell.

Dan Patrick (26:22)

Wilson, it feels like Matthew Stafford is a brother and he's never been a Pro bowl quarterback or one time never been an mvp.

Paulie (26:31)

Right.

Dan Patrick (26:31)

But he won a Super Bowl. Yeah. And that feels like that alone is going to get him into the hall of Fame.

Paulie (26:38)

Well, I think there's some different circumstances there where I go, you know, Matthew Stafford, for me, for a while was the only reason Detroit was ever in any conversations about being in the playoffs at all.

Dan Patrick (26:50)

Right.

Paulie (26:50)

He was almost his own worst enemy in the fact that he was so good. He made them eight name and they might have gotten the playoffs or didn't, but lost in the first round or whatever. And people go, oh, look, he couldn't get in the playoffs or he choked in the playoffs when it was like, no, they weren't really a playoff team. They got there because he's so amazing. So that's where I would stick up for him. He was the football team there. And then you saw as soon as he got with a team that could support him at all, it was like, boom, I'm going to win the Super Bowl. And Russell Wilson's I think, is a little different than that. Where, hell, some good years, certainly. But we know the legion of boom. And that defense and run game were the most important parts of that football team early on in his career.

Dan Patrick (27:27)

Yeah. But I can look at this and say that Russ got with a team that was really good and he won. He went to two Super Bowls. Whereas when he's not with a good team, it still took Pittsburgh to the playoffs.

Paulie (27:38)

Yeah, he still took Pittsburgh to the playoffs, but the passing offense and everything around him has been the question.

Dan Patrick (27:44)

Right.

Paulie (27:44)

And I don't think that's been the question around Matthew Stafford. We were never like, I don't know if the passing offense is going to work with Matthew Stafford. We've gotten to a point here where you've seen one of the greatest offensive minds in the history of football and Sean Payton go through a half a year ago. It ain't going to work. It's not going to work. We're going to. I'm going to ask him to take off the guarantees of his contract next year. That's how much it's not going to work. I'm going to bench him for Jared Stidham. So I think with all of that and then, yeah, last year there was some moments, but again, he's limited in what he can do, Dan.

Dan Patrick (28:18)

Right.

Paulie (28:18)

Because he can't run and scramble anymore. He's not very good playing within the pocket and he doesn't really work at whole offense. He's never surgical, as I would say.

Dan Patrick (28:29)

But he built up a resume, Chris. He had, yes, he built up a 10 year career and whether you value Pro Bowls or not.

Paulie (28:37)

No, yeah, yeah, I hear you. I, and I respect all of that. I do. He had a lot of awesome years, there's no doubt about that. And I'm not saying I'm right about the hall of Fame thing. That's just my opinion. You know, I'm sure there's other people that are smart in football that maybe differ in that. So I understand the resume and all that, but I also think within the resume, resume, the team he had and all that, it was set up so perfectly for him to look awesome.

Dan Patrick (29:04)

Right.

Paulie (29:04)

And he obviously didn't like it there. He wanted to be more of a, a guy like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes where everything was around him and we're seeing that the physical talents are not there of that like those guys right there. And he can't do it.

Dan Patrick (29:18)

Talking to Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host, the show that precedes hours on Peacock. You can see him on football night in America. How long should we wait for Kyler Murray?

Paulie (29:30)

I think we've waited long enough. There's no longer, there's no longer to wait. It's like, hey dude, you gotta, you gotta make some plays, we gotta win some football games, we gotta win some of these tough post games here. Yeah, Tyler Murray is a guy that's, you know, floating in that area of. He's got some talent that makes you think he could be a top 10 quarterback or elite. But there's other issues in his game that make him look real average. And you saw the game last night, there's lots of moments there where yeah, it is real average. And you expect him to make a few plays on the run that he didn't make last night in some of those throws. So yeah, I'm a little disappointed in Kyler Murray. I expected more out of him by, by this time of his career. And yeah, he's getting to that point where if some results don't happen, you know, they're going to be looking for changes out there in Arizona in the next year or two.

Dan Patrick (30:16)

And Marvin Harrison was a sure thing.

Paulie (30:19)

Well, he was, yeah, to a lot. You know, I knew he was really good. You know, I, you're talking to one guy here that when I, you know, I thought it was a little overhyped coming out. Right. I Mean, again, really good. And I know he can still be really good. He's on the right path. The problem is, is people tried to make him, like, the greatest superstar ever. And I was like, wait. I mean, there wasn't a ton of separation in college. I don't see slants where he went for 80 yards after. Meanwhile, those guys we saw at LSU, Malik Neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. Who were the guys I had at the top of the list that year, I was going, they're running by everybody. They're leaving everybody in the dust. Right? So I think all of that has kind of played into this Marvin Harrison thing. Let alone their offense isn't great as well. So that doesn't lend itself to great passing yards and stats either.

Dan Patrick (31:07)

How often does this happen? What happened to Cam Newton with Tua? Because Two is saying, oh, you know, anybody, I guess, can play quarterback. And, you know, he, like, how dare you criticize him? And I was. I was surprised that Two has said that since we know that, you know, Cam had a pretty storied career, but you didn't have that. But you're a great analyst. How often do you get, what do you know about the position? Or how dare you critique me?

Paulie (31:36)

Yeah, that. That's always. I mean, you know, I haven't got that from players and anything like that. I think, you know, most people in the NFL know I'm pretty connected and obsessed with the sport and study it like mad and. And know what I'm talking about a little bit now. I get that from fans, and I see that on my social media, like, oh, your career sucked. How could you talk about this guy? You know, all. So I always hear that type of stuff that comes with the job. That doesn't mean I'm not good at evaluating players and knowing the game and understanding it that way either. And I can talk it really good, too. So, yeah, there's all of that. And, you know, again, one of my themes of my year on my podcast and all of that a little bit is, you know, is. Is to challenge some of these teams and what they've done with these quarterback contracts. Hey, Tua's being paid like he's Lamar, like he's Josh Allen, like he's Patrick Mahomes. Then, sorry, team, I'm going to blame you. I want to see those results. And I'm going to blame that quarterback. Quarterback, too. I am. I don't know where we've got into this mold that we're going to pay the quarterback four times more as much money than the best players on the football team. Even when the quarterbacks are middle of the road in the NFL and nobody in football was going to pay 2 of $55 million a year. I mean, they literally negotiated against themselves. So now they want to wonder why they're in this spot. And when you make, when you make statements that I can't do half the things Josh Allen does, when you're getting ready to play them and you're being paid just like them and, and okay, the rubber meets the road there, that doesn't make sense. And I feel like we have a little of that in the NFL right now where there's four or five guys that deserve to be paid like they are. Everybody else. I want to go. It's a little crazy. And agents and GMs have fooled the rest of the world that the quarterbacks are so much worth more money than everybody else on the football team.

Dan Patrick (33:24)

Should the Cowboys acknowledge Micah Parsons in a celebratory way prior to the game?

Paulie (33:34)

I mean, I, I'm old school. I don't give a damn if they do. Right. But, but at the same time, it'd probably be the classy thing to do to make a. A little acknowledgment for one of the better players there that, that, that they've had in recent history who also, you know, left in a little bit of a weird situation.

Dan Patrick (33:53)

Right. I mean, just a little bit. Just right.

Paulie (33:55)

A little bit.

Dan Patrick (33:56)

Right.

Paulie (33:56)

And we took under the, you know, you know, below the belt shots at them through the whole process and trying to change the rules of the cba. And we don't want his agent to negotiate because he might know what he's talking about in negotiations and contracts. We'd rather talk about it to the football player. So, yeah, do I think that would be the classy thing to do? I would. But if they don't do it, I'm not going to sit there and drag the Cowboys.

Dan Patrick (34:17)

He's.

Paulie (34:17)

He's only been there a short period of time. This is not like it's Randy White or Ed2Tall Jones.

Dan Patrick (34:24)

Finish this sentence. Daniel Jones is.

Paulie (34:28)

Is a lot better than people realize. And, and it's one of my favorite. Well, why. Because he's got all the physical tools and the mentality to be good at quarterback. You know, the thing I always say, right. Jokingly, I might get. And you probably said it to you before, if you're around crap all the time, you start to smell like crap and crap gets on you, and then all of a sudden you don't look so good. Saquon Barkley was a bust up with the New York Giants. They should have never picked him the number two. And then he goes to a team like the Eagles and we go, is he the best running back I've ever seen in my life? So, yeah. The support system wasn't correct for Daniel Jones, let alone just the climate around him. You know, the New York fans being so critical playing for a coach who didn't really draft him.

Dan Patrick (35:11)

Right.

Paulie (35:12)

And Brian Dabal and I don't know if he was totally invested there. So now you're seeing you put a little offense around him, you give him a few answers, you protect them a little bit. Oh, my gosh. Daniel Jones can make a lot happen. Just like Sam Darnold, just like Baker Mayfield, just like Saquon Barkley. It's a team sport. You need some support. You're not. Not everybody's Superman.

Dan Patrick (35:31)

What's the most must win game of the weekend?

Paulie (35:34)

Oh, all right. So that's a good one. I do look at The Broncos being 1 and 2 on Monday night going, they better win that one against the Bengals.

Dan Patrick (35:42)

Right.

Paulie (35:42)

Who are not playing good football, who are miraculously two and one even though they've been outplayed in every game. I think the most must win is the Ravens Chiefs game. I don't think there's any doubt about that. I still think the Ravens are a really good football team. I mean, if Derek Henry doesn't fumble against Buffalo, they probably win. If he doesn't fumble the other night, it's going to be a nail biter. Right. Between the Detroit Lions. So I still look at them as one of the top teams in football. The Chiefs, on the other hand, I do not. I've been one all year. That's kind of said this is not the year they're going to do it in the AFC west. And it's been worse than I expected. The receiver injuries are certainly been a big part of that. But yeah, the Chiefs are a team right now that I look at and I go, it's not close. I'm not like, ooh, I like this. If they get this straight, watch out. They're. They're in trouble.

Dan Patrick (36:26)

To me a little bit here, we don't teach tackling anymore, it feels like, but we are teaching punching the ball out. Right? Right. At any point, and I don't want to be a buzzkill. Does the NFL legislate a violent act of trying to punch a ball out?

Paulie (36:47)

Probably not. I don't think so. I don't think there'll ever be enough there. And I think it just adds too much to the excitement of the football game. I think the NFL wants excitement. They want big plays, they want turnovers, they want points and all that, and that's a big part of it. And to your point, yeah, we don't practice tackling as much anymore because of all the rules and everything's just different to where you can't hit the same. But at the same point, the tackling is also falling off because I can tell you that defensive players are going, hey, when you get in there, the coaches are going, hold them up so Johnny can come by and knock the ball out. And that leads to bad pocket tackling, too. But, no, I don't think that's going anywhere here anytime soon.

Dan Patrick (37:28)

Paulie insists that I ask you this question about the Vikings and Sam Darnold because nobody, nobody loves Sam Darnold more than Paulie. Right. Will the Vikings regret moving on from Sam Darnold?

Paulie (37:42)

Well, they're definitely in a spot right now where you don't know where it's going to go.

Dan Patrick (37:47)

Right.

Paulie (37:47)

I think that's that, like with J.J. mcCarthy, the fact that he didn't play as his rookie year, here we are, year two. It was a little shaky in the game and a half that he did play.

Dan Patrick (37:59)

Right.

Paulie (37:59)

And now we're. And now we're going to wait another few weeks for his development and you go, oh, I don't know where this quarterback situation is going to go for the rest of the year. It might be a problem. They might really have to manage it. Yeah. From that standpoint, they're gonna. I think they're gonna regret it this year, but I think the long play, they will not regret it. When it's all said and done, I still believe in J.J. mcCarthy and more than. I just believe in Aiden. I mean, Kevin o' Connell and his ability to groom these quarterbacks and make them, you know, pretty awesome on the field.

Dan Patrick (38:27)

Yeah, I'm, I'm all in on that. I just didn't see that. J.J. mcCarthy. Oh, my gosh.

Paulie (38:32)

Yeah, yeah, I hear you.

Dan Patrick (38:34)

And I trust your judgment as much, if not more so than anybody. I just don't. I didn't see it at Michigan. He wasn't featured at Michigan.

Paulie (38:43)

No, you're right. That's the fair point. And you know that you're coming out. I had him five out of those six great quarterbacks that all went in the first round. Right. Because of some of the things you said. Right. There was a part of you that goes Wait, I like that he has to play NFL football where it's not just spread and easy throws and he's playing in Michigan where it's play action and throw the ball down the field. But to your point, yeah, I didn't like that we might go a quarter without him even throwing the football. That's a little crazy. And the thing I think you're seeing too, that he has to work on is he's only got one club in the bag. He only has the driver, he only has the fastball. We don't see any like flick, flick of the wrist, throws, any sidearm, any, you know, laying it over the linebackers and touching it to the second level to a tight end. That's where he has to grow. To me, every throw he makes that's good is really just the fastball.

Dan Patrick (39:35)

Harbaugh and what he's doing with Justin Herbert, I don't know if it's tangible that you see something. That he's a different quarterback.

Paulie (39:43)

Yes.

Dan Patrick (39:44)

And, and I think Jim builds in almost bumpers, rails for, for Herbert that he, he's going to be successful. But I don't know exactly what Jim is doing, but it, it looks different.

Paulie (39:58)

Well, he's the next quarterback. He makes the quarterbacks feel like he's in the fight with them. Right. Like I'm out there playing with you. I'm support. No, it's not easy. And I think that's always great for a quarterback because it's not easy and not a lot of people can put themselves in their shoes that way. And he also, I think, is trying to change the culture there. And let's not forget the Chargers chargering was a big thing. Them screwing up games, doing everything there. He's changed that aspect about the football team. And within that, he's got to change kind of the mindset of the quarterback who's leading the charge. I think there's two things that I look at. One, watch this Sunday, he gets mad at his teammates. Now he yells a little bit. That's what I like to see. The second thing is he's getting outside the pocket and making plays out there. That was the only area he really lacked behind the great ones. Mahomes, Lamar, Josh, Allen, Burrow. Right when the defense would win against those guys, those guys still made a play and got a 20 yard gain. Where you go, man, that was the perfect defense, the perfect pass rush, but they still made it happen, almost imposing their will that way. I don't think Herbert was like that, but you're seeing that this year and he's playing as good as anybody in the NFL right now at quarterback.

Dan Patrick (41:07)

Good appearance. Have a good weekend. Great to talk to you again, Chris. Thank you.

Paulie (41:11)

Thanks a lot, man. Thanks, buddy.

Dan Patrick (41:13)

That's Chris Sims, Pro football. He didn't even say anything. Usually says say hello to the knuckleheads here, the jerks over there. He's locked in. Yeah. Maybe bring Chris back and see if he wants to say that. Is Chris still there? Yeah, he's gone. Yeah. That was quick. Okay. We don't need to be called.

Paulie (41:34)

We get called jerks.

Dan Patrick (41:35)

Why it's okay to skip that one time?

Paulie (41:39)

I don't know.

Dan Patrick (41:40)

Just my thoughts. Pro Football Talk Live co host Chris Sims when we come back. Are we doing the most most win game of the weekend next? Are we going to wait a little bit?

Paulie (41:50)

Oh, we're going to wait on that.

Dan Patrick (41:51)

Oh, okay.

Paulie (41:52)

Mmw. Gotw.

Dan Patrick (41:53)

Okay. We're going to slide into the weekend. Some of the matchups, more of your phone calls as well after this.

Paulie (41:59)

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Paulie (46:43)

I'm hot on that.

Dan Patrick (46:44)

Oh, I know.

Paulie (46:44)

I love that game.

Dan Patrick (46:45)

Yeah. Seaton's like, hey, I never thought I'd say this. Indiana and Iowa.

Paulie (46:49)

I've never looked forward to that matchup.

Dan Patrick (46:50)

More than I have this year.

Paulie (46:52)

That is a big game.

Dan Patrick (46:54)

Yeah.

Paulie (46:54)

Paulie. I have a trap game. Notre Dame at Arkansas. Yeah, I know Arkansas. They beat themselves twice this year. Otherwise, they're four, zero, I think.

Dan Patrick (47:03)

Notre Dame favored by four and a half.

Paulie (47:05)

That's right.

Dan Patrick (47:05)

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Paulie (47:39)

It's first time, long time. Six foot one, 190. I had an idea for Todd's shirt. I thought section roll speed.

Dan Patrick (47:49)

Oh, okay. All right. We got to decide on a T shirt here by the end of the show, and then It'll be available. DanPatrick.com Todd, how social media been to you? They've kind of laid off me a little bit. Okay. It's still more negative than positive as far as the whole camping and let us get through. Yeah. Move over. But it's changed your driving.

Paulie (48:09)

It actually has.

Dan Patrick (48:10)

It's in my head. I'm like, I'm more cognizant of that. And if I feel like I'm in someone's way, then moving over. That's very nice. Timothy in Vegas. Hi, Tim. What's on your mind?

Paulie (48:20)

The best. The reason Seat and I are laughing. Todd is getting. Giving his explanation and tailing off. And you just take it and go. And it's like the second or third time today that you've done that.

Dan Patrick (48:32)

Feels a little dismissive.

Paulie (48:34)

I tend to ramble. So it's somewhere in the middle of.

Dan Patrick (48:36)

Your rudeness and me not knowing when to stop talking. If you go, you're briefer then I won't do that. I know there's a middle ground there.

Paulie (48:43)

Sometimes you're like, okay.

Dan Patrick (48:44)

Then you're just going.

Paulie (48:46)

We've all been there, though. Like, signal saves on your Jeff from Indiana.

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He just made this passionate, pointless. Timothy and Vic. No, I only do it to you. Hey, Tim. How you doing?

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Dan Patrick (48:58)

All right.

Paulie (48:59)

Okay. I got a comment on the Russell Wilson. I think people are just hating on Russ because right now it's easy. He's more of a suburb less inner city. And I think that's why people like Sherman or other guys probably don't like him. But remember, he came into the league with Luck and RG3, and they all made their postseason their rookie year. But it was Russ who had the long term success.

Dan Patrick (49:27)

Yeah. And you know, and Chris Sims basically said that it's kind of likability. And thank you for the phone call, Tim. Keith and Chico. Hi, Keith. Welcome back. Hey, Dan.

Paulie (49:38)

Good morning. I also had a couple comments on the Russell Wilson situation. I just think we need to remember.

Dan Patrick (49:43)

What Russ had to work with in Seattle.

Paulie (49:46)

From what I remember, Russ wasn't playing with a bunch of elite offensive skill guys during those runs.

Dan Patrick (49:51)

Sure, he had Marshawn, but some fun.

Paulie (49:54)

Play calling as well. But his wide receivers were all pretty short guys.

Dan Patrick (49:58)

All had solid hands and route running.

Paulie (49:59)

But no hall of Famers.

Dan Patrick (50:01)

No, no, he didn't have. What else?

Paulie (50:04)

I also think some of the Seahawks resent Russ for not changing the play on that super bowl interception at the 1. And I think that's where a lot.

Dan Patrick (50:11)

Of the Richard Sherman disrespect stems. But in fairness to him, he didn't call the play. Thank you, Keith. And if you believe in what has kind of lingered out there, that this was Daryl Bevel and, you know, Pete wanting Russ to be the mvp, and if he throws the touchdown, then he's the mvp. If Marshawn runs it in, is he the mvp? And if that factored in, it's kind of crazy. I still would have had a run pass option with Russia, but what do I know? Yes, Marvin, that might be the most.

Paulie (50:49)

Important play as far as legacy shaping in NFL history.

Dan Patrick (50:55)

Tom Brady loses a third super bowl on a crazy. Remember, the curse catch was another crazy catch before that.

Paulie (51:01)

And Tom Brady was maybe a yard.

Dan Patrick (51:03)

Away from saying, gosh, I'm about to.

Paulie (51:04)

Lose on another crazy catch.

Dan Patrick (51:06)

Instead, he wins another one.

Paulie (51:08)

And the Legion of boom and Russell Wilson, they have two Super Bowls. We're probably never having this conversation about a Hall of Famer.

Dan Patrick (51:13)

You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Paulie.

Paulie (51:16)

The play before. A minute left. New England's up 28, 24. They run left tackle Marshawn Lynch. He gets tripped up at the one. He's probably a foot and a half from scoring on that play, and it's never as brought up again. Yeah, Patriots would have got the ball back with a little more time and two timeouts.

Dan Patrick (51:34)

But I thought they were going to let him score.

Paulie (51:37)

It would have been a smart move if they score on that play. The Patriots get the ball back with 55 seconds and two timeouts.

Dan Patrick (51:43)

I thought they were going to let Marshawn score. And man, I'm staring at Marshawn during that play. I'm just watching him because I'm going to, I have my phone out. I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to capture this on my phone and then, you know, I'll be on the podium handing the super bowl trophy to the Seahawks. All of a sudden I'm like, what? Oh bleep. And I thought, oh man, they dodged a bullet. That's inner incomplete. Not so fast. What is the most must win game of the weekend and who had the best week in sports? We'll have that for you final hour in this meet Friday, right after this. Hey guys, it's cheeky from Cheekies and Chill Cleaning today. Well, not exactly my idea. Fun.

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