LaVar Arrington (2:55)

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Declan Doyle (4:28)

We would expect them to be here and certainly it is voluntary and so but it's also, you know, if you want to say that you're going to win a championship, you want to say that you have championship standards and those are your goals and your expectations. Certainly that's going to take work, that's going to take collaboration, that's going to take the beginning of, of building the relationship with their coaches, other players, you know, starting off this, this next regime on the right foot. And so that would be those guys getting in here, us being able to work with them hands on and be able to kind of get this thing going in the direction that we want to and, you know, making improvements so that we set ourselves up where when we come back in for training camp, we hit the ground run. And we already have kind of shared knowledge, shared language, and we're able to

Jonas Knox (5:13)

go right to work voluntary workouts, but he expects him and the other guys to be there. Uh, I'm not sure if he's familiar with the way that Lamar Jackson operates. Okay. I'm not, I'm not sure if anybody filled him in on the fact that Lamar kind of moves at his own pace, moves at his own speed, operates and negotiates contracts the way he does it, maybe differently than anybody else because he doesn't have an agent. And, you know, if you may or may not see him outside a, a lunch truck in Baltimore, and it looks like, you know, he's been, he's been walking the Green wolf for, for about 48 hours straight. Like, listen, he just, he operates in a different way. But for Declan Doyle to come in, and I get why he would want those guys to be in the building and be a part of this whole thing. I, I, I just, I can't imagine that's going to entice Lamar Jackson or veterans to want to stop what they're doing and all of a sudden come in because the brand new offensive coordinator says, I have expectations for you to show up, even though they're voluntary.

LaVar Arrington (6:19)

So when my older brother used to tell me things I had to do when we were growing up, you know what I would do? I'd laugh at him like, what are you talking to, bruh? Do it when I feel like doing it. Why is that, why is that relevant? Well, my older brother is three years older than me, my elder, and I still was, like, very comfortable with knowing that because he's my brother and we're so close in age. I ain't got to do anything you tell me to do. You know how old Mr. Declan Doyle is? 29 years old. You know how old one Lamar Jackson is? Oh, 29 years old. He can't be 29. How old is he?

Jonas Knox (7:15)

He's 29. Same age, man.

LaVar Arrington (7:19)

Is he 29? Lamar Jackson, 29. Lamar Jackson is 20. That's crazy. I didn't think he was that old. They're the same age like you have, you have this youth movement taking place in the National Football League and, and most likely you're, you're seeing guys that are the same age as their players. I just wonder what, like, I always used to say, like, man, they bring these old ass coaches in here and da, da, da, like, what's this all about? But when you think about it, now that they're bringing in, I'm Sorry. I'm sorry, Mike. May, maybe, maybe I should leave old people alone. But I'm just saying. I'm just saying, people, when, when, like, Mike, you look like you could be my.

Jonas Knox (8:12)

My uncle, he just got Vanilla Sky.

LaVar Arrington (8:14)

Hey, Mike, you look like you could be my uncle Mike. I'm just saying. Do you treat your cousin the same way you treat your uncle? You know what I mean? Like, I don't treat my uncles the same way I treat my cousins. So it's like when you come in and, and you're setting a tone, he has to come in to try to set a tone. As a coach, you want to come in, you want to try to set a tone. I just wonder at what cost, at what expense is it going to take for him to be able to set a tone at 29 years old and you're wet behind the ears. You're a new. You're a new, new, new energy, a new personality in the mix with somebody who's a multi MVP winner, has had great success and is so beloved by the community and the city and the franchise. Or what are you going to do if Lamar Jackson snickers at you and laughs it off? Like, I'll be here when I get here. That's what, that's what I've always done.

Jonas Knox (9:16)

Yeah, I just. And that's the part I wonder about, because his relationship with Declan Doyle is the most important. They hired Jesse Minner, who's a defensive guy, and if we're going based on where Declan Doyle was previously, like Ben Johnson was really, really hard on Caleb Williams and was. Was really outspoken and critical, sometimes publicly of him and would get on him. And Caleb Williams has talked about it, but he was working with him day in and day out closely. And you talked yesterday on the show about how quarterbacks move differently in the building, and Ben Johnson was his guy. That's. That's sort of how they're connected. That's. And that's what the Bears wanted and they should have won it because it's going to be hopefully lasting them for the next decade plus those two together. But in this case, I wonder. Declan Doyle's brought in to be the one closest to Lamar Jackson from an offensive mind standpoint. He's not the head coach. That relationship is paramount with the Ravens organization. And so when the guy comes in and the first thing he says is, I don't care if it's voluntary, they need to be here. And you're a veteran player who probably doesn't show up to the voluntary workouts and if you're Lamar Jackson, dude, you can't even get the guy to practice every single day of the week. You know, training camp, preseason, like, whatever.

LaVar Arrington (10:38)

It doesn't mean you don't come in and try to set a tone. Well, and, and listen, maybe he's already had this conversation behind closed doors. I would say it's wise to have had this conversation behind closed doors. Don't, don't come out with an iron fist. We had this conversation about Schottenheimer with the whole reorganizing and doing this with the locker room and this and that. We saw how that turned out. But don't come in ruling with an iron fist publicly if you're going to be an iron fist type of guy. Like, this is what it's going to be. This is how it's going to be. This is how we're going to do it. This is why we're going to do it. You had better build that bond and, and, and set that tone and that standard behind closed doors.

Jonas Knox (11:25)

That doesn't work anymore. These days that iron fist sort of talked down to players and

LaVar Arrington (11:34)

isn't really, really recognized. It's not comprehendable by today's, today's athlete, today's kid.

Jonas Knox (11:43)

They touched.

LaVar Arrington (11:44)

They're touched, man. They're touched. That's cringe. You come at somebody with the iron fist. That's cringe. Like I used to think when you came at me with the iron fist, it was literally an iron fist. Like, I'm going to get spanked. You're. If you're told this and you don't do this, the consequence is an ass whipping.

Jonas Knox (12:04)

Oh, yeah.

LaVar Arrington (12:05)

Coming after it. That it's not like that anymore. Like, there is no real consequences to, oh, clean your room. Like, you didn't clean your room or. Okay, are you going to clean it now? No, I'm going to take your, your, your devices from you. Like, okay, you figure out something else to do. I'm going to take that. What you figured out what else to do? Okay. Like, I'll just sit here and be bored, but so what? I still didn't clean my room. Where you go from there, if you, if you physically, like, spank them, you still didn't really get anything. You didn't get anything out of it other than feeling bad about spanking.

Jonas Knox (12:41)

My, my son's 4 years old. I threatened him one time and he slashed my tires. Like he's a. It's a new day, man.

LaVar Arrington (12:47)

Yeah, so, so, so the whole iron fist, everybody's gonna be here. I Expect everybody. What you have to do is you have to be creative and how it is that you go about working with the professionals that are under your watch and under your care. You got to build the bond this, this era of, of athlete. If you build a bond like, hey, Lamar, like, let's go get some, some food from your, from your, your food truck. Hey, Lamar, you smoking like, all right. Like, I, I might not smoke the green lettuce, but I, I smoke cigars. Like, let's go, let's go cheap. You gotta go meet these people on there on their grounds.

Jonas Knox (13:36)

So if you were advising Declan Doyle, you would tell him to go smoke weed with.

LaVar Arrington (13:39)

Why not Jackson? Why not? All right,

Jonas Knox (13:44)

listen. You had to Steve Pichati telling him, don't do drugs.

LaVar Arrington (13:47)

Only, only if. Only if that's what you do. Only if that's what you do. If you're Declan and you smoke weed, go smoke weed with, with your. You got a couple players that are your main guys. Go have a drink with them. Go have a beer with them. Go, go kick it with them. Like, oh, you going on vacation over here to the Bahamas. I'm coming, I'm bringing my wife. We're gonna hang. Like, I'm coming through. We good? Then you build a relationship and I'm over embellishing. Obviously I'm not. You know, it's a bummer, but, but, no, but, I mean, I mean, if I was your coach, like, I'm not going to not be who I like. You want to know the biggest mistake coaches make is being something and someone they're not. You could get away with that when you could tell somebody. Get the f out of here, you stupid mother effort. Da da da. Look at what happened in, in Atlanta. I told you that offensive coordinator was a D bag to his players. I told you that.

Jonas Knox (14:51)

Yeah.

LaVar Arrington (14:52)

Where are they at now? Gone.

Jonas Knox (14:54)

Yeah, it's a good point. Why don't you take a victory lap on that?

Amanda Knox (14:57)

You.

Jonas Knox (14:57)

You, you put us up on game and Brady Quinn dismissed it.

LaVar Arrington (15:01)

I told y' all behind this.

Jonas Knox (15:03)

He never does. Okay.

LaVar Arrington (15:05)

I told y' all behind the scenes that the offensive coordinator for the Atlanta Falcons did not know how to talk to his players. Did I tell y' all that? I said it on air?

Jonas Knox (15:15)

Yeah.

LaVar Arrington (15:16)

I said you're going to run into issues because the dude doesn't know how to like the way he was talking to grown ass men. You talk to me the way he was talking to them dudes and we out on the street. I'mma punch you in. Your mother effing mouth. That's what I'mma do. I'mma punch you right in your mouth. I'mma pop you. Like, stay in your place, bro. Like, I. I don't know what you think this is, but what you're not going to do is talk to me like, I'm less than a man. I got to get up just like you get up. I gotta come to work and put it in just like you do. Don't talk to me that way. And that's old school. That's. That's me as an old school player. These new school players, they just shut down. They shut down like, oh, mother f me, you stupid mother effer. Get out of here. We don't this and that. They shut down. And you know what happens? Because all these cats is so cool, and they all on the same page, and it's like a power outage. Like, wait, the lights aren't on. You caused a power outage. You talking to cats the way you're talking to them, you not show. The worst thing you could do is show them you don't care. If you show this era athletes, you don't care. They're gonna check out and they don't care. Like, it's the weirdest thing. Like, don't you still want to win? I can't function. Can't function right. Mental health used to be your week used to be like emotional sensitivities. Used to be you're weak. You know what they are now? It's power. It's empowerment. My mental health matters. My emotional stability matters. My happiness matters. And if you infringe on that, then you've gone down a road that you should not go down. It's inappropriate. It's not acceptable, nor will it be tolerated. And our society backs that up now. They back it up, Jonas. So if you come in talking crazy to cats, they shut down. You're not going to get results. So I. While I'll say the tone of it, I'm not going to say the tone of. Of. Of Declan and is. Is that of a tyrant. But the reason why I believe they're bringing in younger coaches to coach these guys is that you got to have guys that understand how these guys are wired emotionally.

Jonas Knox (17:47)

By the way, could you imagine telling our parents, hey, we need a mental health break? Growing up, bro, I can't imagine my dad tell me like, hey, come help me clean the chicken coop. No, Dad, I need a mental health.

LaVar Arrington (17:58)

You said mental what?

Jonas Knox (17:59)

He. He'd literally spray me in the eyes with rage.

LaVar Arrington (18:02)

I'll show you mental health boy. Go get the belt.

Jonas Knox (18:06)

What?

LaVar Arrington (18:06)

Wait, hold on. I'm about to get. I'm gonna get spanked for said.

Jonas Knox (18:11)

In fact, don't get the bell. Get the yard rake.

LaVar Arrington (18:15)

Now get spanked. Well, what are you smacking me for? Dad.

Jonas Knox (18:18)

Hey, dad, we're making excuses. Hey, dad, we live in California. Why we have a snow shovel. Next time you need a mental health break. That's why it's weird.

LaVar Arrington (18:28)

Hey, man, my game has changed. My dad has two prosthetic gloves. Like, they're wooden, you knock on them bad boys, right? Give him. I need a mental health day. I need a day off. I'm emotionally, I'm drained. This and that. That man knock on his legs. You think I get an emotional day? You think I get a. I'm a mental health day? You think, you think I get a mental health day? Big Mike, let's not have any excuses. Let's have a not have excuses day today. And listen, I, I raised my kids hard. I'll say. I, I, I turned out. I turned out well. Like, I don't take days off. I'm, I'm dependable. I'm on time. I, I like the way he, he raised me military. I handle things military. Very regimented. Was there some sacrifice there? Yeah. Like, are we super tight? We're tight as father son, but are we, like, tight tight? Like, kind of. Not really. You know what I mean? So it's kind of like, for me, you got to approach it the same exact way in the football world in terms of the understanding of who it is that you're guiding, if you're not authentically who you are and you don't establish that rapport and that bond and that connection with each. And this is the crazy thing with each one of those players that are under your watchful eye. And I would go as far as to say, even if I'm the offensive coordinator or I'm building that relationship with defensive players, too, I'm building a personal relationship with every single player that comes in that building that plays for us, because that's how today's athlete operates.

Jonas Knox (20:12)

And I do wonder also if you're Declan Doyle and your most recent example is, as we mentioned, the Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams relationship. Caleb Williams and Lamar Jackson are in completely different spots in their career. When Ben Johnson got to Chicago, there was conversations. Caleb Williams is a bust. He's this, he's that. You can't win with him. He had to, basically, Jonas, you know, that's not. He had to. He had to basically break him down and build him up again. Lamar Jackson's already got two MVPs.

LaVar Arrington (20:44)

Yes.

Jonas Knox (20:45)

He's got hundreds of millions of dollars. He's a superstar. And now you get a guy whose most recent example is, is how Ben Johnson coached up Caleb Williams. And we've talked about it before. The Belichick Disciples, for the most part, never really worked because they tried to be Belichick. As you mentioned. You got to be yourself. And I just wonder self, man, I just wonder if he's taking the approach that, well, Ben did this with Caleb. I'm going to do it. Lamar. And it's two completely different baby Caleb.

LaVar Arrington (21:11)

Caleb's a baby. It's a baby. He's a babe in the league. And Lamar is a battle tested, hardened experience

Jonas Knox (21:21)

vet.

LaVar Arrington (21:23)

And, and, but he's. He's a new school vet, though. Again, the best thing you could do is become best friends with, you know, who has the perfect blend of best friend. But it better be respect. Like we could lock it up. Like, like we could go in the back room and lock it up. I remember one time, just super quick story. I slap box one when I was head coach, one of my, one of my, one of my players. He only understood fighting. Fighting was the only way to communicate with him. So when I realized, I was like, let's go over here real quick, man. Come on, come on. We slapboxed old school, old style slap box. Like, let's go, let's go. Right, so now you're not looking at me like at this old decrepit dude that's coaching you. Like, he touched my head like three times in the first one minute of us slap boxing. Like, I touched your head. You know what that means, right? If we was really slap boxing, I slapped the hell out of you. Like your face would be slapped. And I'm. I'm sitting there and I'm moving on him and my hand speed was too good for him. And after that, our bond, our ability to communicate was different. He's like, oh, wait, you're like me. Like, yeah. So I've been trying to tell you, we're not different. We're the same and we should want the same things. You connect on that level, right? Mike Vrabel, that's a perfect blend. Perfect blend of. Let's like, I guarantee you Mike Vrabel will be like, oh, you feel like you could whoop me.

Jonas Knox (23:00)

Vrabel broke up a fight in training camp and got bloodied.

LaVar Arrington (23:03)

Let's go in the weight room. Let's hit this let's, let's get, I'm not telling you to go lift the weights. I'm going in with you. Let's get this workout him.

Jonas Knox (23:13)

Dan Campbell's another guy.

LaVar Arrington (23:14)

Dan Campbell, yeah. Former players. But, but, but just have a real, real sense of what connecting to your players represents. You got to be careful on things like that, especially when you have established vets.

Jonas Knox (23:26)

It's the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's lavar Arrington. I'm Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. Coming up next year though, we're going to tell you about, if true, why this makes somebody potentially the biggest weirdo in all of sports. And that's yours next here on fsr. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Fox Sports Radio is taking over YouTube and you can be a part of it. Just go to YouTube and search Fox Sports Radio. Hit that subscribe button and smash that notification bell and catch all the videos from your favorite shows. Two pros and a cup of Joe. Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd, Stu Gotz and company Live, Covino and Rich, the Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington, the Jason Smith show with Mike Harmon and the Ben Maller Show. Fox sports radio on YouTube. Subscribe hit that thumbs up icon and comment away.

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LaVar Arrington (26:27)

A homicide captain saying, detective, do not

Jonas Knox (26:31)

find out if this guy's guilty or innocent.

LaVar Arrington (26:33)

Who does that?

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LaVar Arrington (26:47)

I wouldn't do it alone.

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LaVar Arrington (26:58)

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Jonas Knox (26:59)

And I'm Greg Rosenthal.

LaVar Arrington (27:01)

And this is 40s and free agents.

Jonas Knox (27:03)

The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar.

LaVar Arrington (27:09)

Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future.

Jonas Knox (27:16)

This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money on 40s and free agents. We break down every move that actually

LaVar Arrington (27:21)

matters from my draft evaluations, mock drafts

Jonas Knox (27:24)

and team fits to my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts and all the tough decisions included.

LaVar Arrington (27:33)

You got quarterbacks on the move.

Jonas Knox (27:35)

We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season.

LaVar Arrington (27:38)

Absolutely, it's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise and what it means for your favorite team.

Jonas Knox (27:44)

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LaVar Arrington (27:47)

I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever

Jonas Knox (27:54)

you get your podcasts. Yeah, It is the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox filling in for Dan and the guys. So the Cubs closer, Daniel Palencia. This is his song that he plays when he comes out to close games and my son when he pretends to be Daniel Palencia. He goes around the corner and he makes me play this song on my phone.

LaVar Arrington (28:27)

Huh?

Jonas Knox (28:28)

And then he comes out and he closes out our, our make believe games. When he.

LaVar Arrington (28:32)

Do you hype him? Do you hype him when you do it?

Jonas Knox (28:35)

Oh, yeah, yeah. You got to.

LaVar Arrington (28:37)

Hey, bro.

Jonas Knox (28:38)

And then if he hangs one over the plate, it's going in the pool.

LaVar Arrington (28:40)

You got.

Jonas Knox (28:42)

See you, buddy.

LaVar Arrington (28:42)

You're the worst. You take it out of there. You hype him up, get him going, but then you take it cold blooded. You gotta take the strike, bro.

Jonas Knox (28:51)

Hey, man, he's four. He's got to grow up sometime.

LaVar Arrington (28:56)

Hey, if you can envision it, you can, you can achieve it, you know? So it's like you gotta, you gotta hype them. You gotta hype when they, when they have those moments. I used to have those moments, man. Front yard with my plastic helmet on.

Jonas Knox (29:08)

Oh, it's the best.

LaVar Arrington (29:09)

Your. Your outfit, your. Your football outfit. I had Jim Plunkett. I had a Plunkett and I had a. Who was it? Was it Walter Payton?

Jonas Knox (29:17)

All the, the old Hutch.

LaVar Arrington (29:19)

The old Hutch is a Bradshaw. Yeah, Plunkett and Bradshaw. I had the, the whole, the whole. Out. The whole uniform. So I'm talking about football pants to the ankles. Yeah, the plastic, plastic helmet. Yeah, yeah.

Jonas Knox (29:33)

Helmet. Yeah.

LaVar Arrington (29:34)

We was playing. I, I envisioned myself like playing like.

Jonas Knox (29:37)

So I had a Neil Anderson. Neil Anderson, Bears one back in the day.

LaVar Arrington (29:42)

Yeah.

Jonas Knox (29:42)

Okay, so, so there's that. But by the way, he's at the point now to where because for some reason he's got a cannon that. It used to be funny when he would beam me with the ball and he does it intentionally. Now it's not fun anymore. Like now it hurts.

LaVar Arrington (29:55)

It hurts.

Jonas Knox (29:55)

Yeah, Just like I don't need this. But from that over to this. And by the way, a quick reminder here. Coming up in a little over 15 minutes from now, we're going to tell you about the latest lie that is being put out in the NFL. I find this hard to believe it would actually happen, but somebody's working really hard to try and make it happen. That'll be yours again a little over 15 minutes from now. You can watch along on the YouTube channel for the show at 2 Pros FSR. We are simulcast right now. And if you are listening, you're also probably listening on the iHeartRadio app where you can stream us wherever you happen to be. Catch us in all of our Fox Sports radio shows live 24. 7 in the new and improved iHeartradio app. Search FOX Sports Radio in the app to stream us live all day, every day. And be sure to select. Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets in the iHeart app, so we'll always pop up at the top of your screen. So Kevin Durant and I just want to say this slim where we get started. Okay.

LaVar Arrington (30:48)

Come on.

Jonas Knox (30:49)

If this is true.

LaVar Arrington (30:50)

Oh, no.

Jonas Knox (30:50)

And he's buying this?

LaVar Arrington (30:52)

Yeah.

Jonas Knox (30:52)

He's a weirdo. He's one of the biggest weirdos in sports and he's got problems. If this is true. There's been some speculation that he is the guy behind a burner account.

LaVar Arrington (31:04)

Okay.

Jonas Knox (31:05)

That made some noise recently.

LaVar Arrington (31:08)

What. What type of noise?

Jonas Knox (31:09)

Well, the name of this burner account, and it was. He sent some DMS to some people. So this is different. Like, it's not even just, you know, accidentally being logged into the other one that he did the time before and sending some tweets out. These are DMS in which he just kind of laid into his teammates. The name on the account is get off my Dickerson.

LaVar Arrington (31:32)

Oh, wow. Eric Dickerson.

Jonas Knox (31:35)

No, I don't. I don't believe it's Eric.

LaVar Arrington (31:36)

Ron Dickerson.

Jonas Knox (31:37)

I'm not sure. Oh, but says the following day he coached Temple.

LaVar Arrington (31:43)

Ron Dickerson.

Jonas Knox (31:44)

I don't know. Did he?

LaVar Arrington (31:45)

Let me look it up.

Jonas Knox (31:46)

I don't know. I'm not familiar with.

LaVar Arrington (31:50)

How good of a coach could you be when your last name is Dickerson?

Jonas Knox (31:54)

Well, Eric Dickerson's one of the all time great players.

LaVar Arrington (31:56)

Got that right? Yeah.

Jonas Knox (31:57)

So Dickerson does work, but this. This from the get off my Dickerson dms.

LaVar Arrington (32:08)

Get off my Dickerson.

Jonas Knox (32:15)

I'm sorry. I don't know.

LaVar Arrington (32:17)

I got it. I got the childish part of it.

Jonas Knox (32:19)

At some point, let's be adult.

LaVar Arrington (32:21)

Yeah.

Jonas Knox (32:21)

At some point. You gotta grow up, man. This is a new audience.

LaVar Arrington (32:23)

And this was a coach. The Ron Dickerson was a coach.

Jonas Knox (32:26)

Get back to being a professional. So this from get off my Dickerson.

LaVar Arrington (32:31)

I will not laugh again. All right, here we go. Come on.

Jonas Knox (32:34)

Coach called that play to pass to Alpi, meaning Alpha and Shangoon. Lol. I'm gonna turn the ball over with this SS team. I don't give an F. Your franchise player can't shoot or defend. That's a way bigger issue than my turnovers. Remember, these guys are your future. All right, so the next one.

LaVar Arrington (32:55)

That's how you sound it when he was typing it. Like if he was saying it by the word, like it was his voice. That's how he sounded.

Jonas Knox (33:02)

I Mean again, that's, you know, maybe me trying to lead the witness here.

LaVar Arrington (33:06)

I want you to sound exactly how you you hear it, voice wise, in your head when you read it.

Jonas Knox (33:11)

All right, all right.

LaVar Arrington (33:12)

Come on.

Jonas Knox (33:13)

From get off my Dickerson. I can't trust Jabari to make an effing shot or get a stop. Guy writes back, just don't give him a tech. He writes back. He's low key. R word. And the R starts with an R and ends with tarted, which I'm not sure I could say on the air. Well, hey, hold on a second. I didn't say it. Chris.

LaVar Arrington (33:40)

Yeah, that hand went right on over there. It was quick.

Jonas Knox (33:43)

Safe than sorry. All right, all right, next up, some laughing, crying emojis. And then he goes on to say, does get off my Dickerson. I really got a laugh to stop from crying. I swear I miss Ben Simmons. Least that N word would give me the ball. He then goes on to say when somebody. When somebody pointed out and put a screenshot of life with Devin Booker and Frank Vogel. He wrote all this cuz book Return 2 Dictators. Stalin and Hitler, Mussolini and Kim Jong Un. The Suns are my team when we lose and Book's team when we win. That from get off my Dickerson via DM on X. Now, Kevin Durant, who we don't know is get off my Dickerson. Because this spread and everybody got a hold of this. Kevin Durant was asked about the scandal, if you will, and had this to say. I know you got to ask these questions, but I'm not here to get into Twitter nonsense. I'm just here to focus on the season, keep it pushing. But I know I get you have

LaVar Arrington (34:51)

to answer those questions.

Jonas Knox (34:52)

My teammates know it is. We've been locked in the whole season. We've been enjoyed our break. We had a great practice today. Looking forward to this road trip. So based on that response, do you believe that Kevin Durant is in fact,

LaVar Arrington (35:04)

when somebody does not deny it.

Jonas Knox (35:07)

Well, can. Can I at least, like, present to you the question? Okay. I just want to be a fair moderator here. Based on that response, Lavar Arrington, do you believe that Kevin Durant is in fact get off my Dickerson?

Amanda Knox (35:17)

Yes.

Jonas Knox (35:23)

Gonna be honest with you, man.

LaVar Arrington (35:27)

Play it back one more time. Just play the beginning of it. When you don't do something, you say, yeah, man, that's crazy. It's not me. Like, I didn't do that. Like, you got the wrong person. What? You're wasting your time. Tell me, do you hear him say no or Answer definitively. Let me hear the beginning.

Jonas Knox (35:43)

I know you gotta ask these questions, but I'm not here to get into Twitter nonsense. I'm just here to focus on the season.

LaVar Arrington (35:51)

Translation, I'm Mr. Get off these Dickers.

Jonas Knox (35:58)

Here's the part I believe if I've got a bet one way, one side or the other. And again, I'm a horrible camp. Absolutely. You are just atrocious. I bet on a horse one time that died at the starting.

LaVar Arrington (36:12)

That's crazy.

Jonas Knox (36:13)

So, like, it's not even like. Like they had to. They had to bring out an elephant gun and put him down right in front of everybody. And he hadn't even raced yet. But. So I'm not a great gambler, but if I had to bet on this, I would lean towards. And this, a slight lean towards. That's not Kevin Durant. Because I can't imagine that a guy with as much on his plate and as much going for him would take the time to create an account called get off my Dickerson and DM people responses like this. And then I find myself saying, oh, but wait, he's already done it before.

LaVar Arrington (36:49)

I was about to say, didn't he do it before? Yes.

Jonas Knox (36:53)

So now I'm looking at this whole thing going, I don't know, man. Like, this is a really. You gotta explain to me, okay? He is a DC guy. He spent a lot of time in dc.

LaVar Arrington (37:05)

I knew him younger, younger kd. He used to come around to the sideline, shouts out to kd.

Jonas Knox (37:11)

This is weirdo behavior, man. This is weird.

LaVar Arrington (37:13)

It's just. I don't understand, again, that the weirdo. I don't understand. We just spent a whole segment talking about this new era, this new age of. Of athlete. And even though he's a little bit older than some of these newer age athletes that are out here, he's still part of the culture. He still influences the culture with how he is. He's very. He's very in tune to what's current and what's trendy. And I gotta say, if you know kd, he's a. He's a jokester. He's not only a jokester, he's funny as all. Get out, bro. Dude is a funny dude.

Jonas Knox (37:57)

I don't mind when he claps back at people on social media. I think it's hilarious.

LaVar Arrington (38:00)

I just. So for me, when. When I hear these things and it's like, if you've ever. And people from D.C. dMV, Will, Will. Will know exactly what I'm talking about. He's not only a jokester and a prankster and he's funny, but he is a serious trash talker. His trash talk is great. So I, I, I recall seeing him play at, in, in Berry Farms. Like, shots out the mouse. I don't even know if Miles still around. Hopefully he's still around. Ran Berry Farms leagues.

Jonas Knox (38:40)

If you are Miles, you can find us on YouTube right now. Yeah, two bros FSR.

LaVar Arrington (38:44)

And if you, if you listen to the show and you, you know, shouts out to all my DMV all days, Kirk Bone, all of them, you know, I mean, so I go to the games, I sit in courtside, watch the games. And kd, every time KD be in a game, KD could trash talk you down to the ground. I mean, some dudes just got the gift. And it blew me away because before I had met him and before I got to know him a little bit, I just thought he was this quiet dude that just walks around, says two, three words. Doesn't say nothing unassuming. Like, you don't get nothing out of him. So I'm sitting there on the sideline just flabbergasted. I'm, I'm sitting there like, what is going. That's Kevin Durant talk. Like, he's talking bad to this defender. Like, bad. Told him about how he grew up, how it had something to do with basketball. His mama not loving him enough. Your ball handling skill, your, your D, your defense. Shows how you was raised. I mean, he was, it was so good. It was so good. So me knowing him from when I did know him and, and, and the things that I've heard him say to me. We used to have like a competition, a trash talk competition about cars. I've had Michael. Like, I'd have a different car every time I come to the sideline. And he'd be like, hey, yeah, you see what I got? You see what I got? You see what I got? I can't compete with his money, you know, I mean, I ain't got what you got. Shouts out to Rob Bassum, though. I did have Eastern Motors. Yeah, I had Eastern Motor Group.

Jonas Knox (40:27)

What up, Rob?

LaVar Arrington (40:28)

What up, Robbie B. I used to talk trash to me, come into the restaurant, we cut, we chicken, kill, chill and kick it. He, you know, and he taught a little bit of trash to me. So when I hear these things, it's like, for one do I think is there, it's probably him. But the thing about it is, here's the biggest question. Do you care? Do you care? Or is it or Is it entertainment?

Jonas Knox (40:57)

It's like, it's weird. I think it's weird. I think he's a weirdo if it's true.

LaVar Arrington (41:01)

But again, I'm aware most of these dudes these days. Well, you are a weirdo. Damn. But these new school cats are weirdos because you don't. You have to understand where they're living at right now. Their mind state, their mental how, how society is versus society is very different for you back then than it is right now. Being current, an influencer, superstar, megastar. It's just different. They're all weirdos, Jonas. That's why to me, it's just funny. When I heard you read them, it's funny like, oh, you gonna go in there DM and get at them? It's funny to me. Unless you're threatening lives or, or bodily harm or anything like that. If you're just trash talking, who cares? I think it's funny. This generation, they do things in a weird, different way. Their algorithm is way different than ours. I get it. So I don't put too much into it. I just think it's funny.

Jonas Knox (41:56)

It's safe. His social media behavior is a wild place to be.

LaVar Arrington (42:02)

I think, I think there should be more trolling the trollers that exist out here.

Jonas Knox (42:06)

Oh, when he doesn't, he's not hiding. I think it's great. I have no issue with it. Be like, oh, you got better things to do. Like what? Who cares? It didn't take that long to fire.

LaVar Arrington (42:13)

But maybe I don't, maybe I don't have better things to do. Maybe, maybe that's, that's my better.

Jonas Knox (42:18)

It is the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys coming up next here we are going to tell you about, listen something that's going on in the NFL. You're going to hear one side of it. It might be a lie. That'll be yours. Right here on fsr. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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Amanda Knox (43:47)

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LaVar Arrington (44:18)

A homicide captain saying detective, do not

Jonas Knox (44:22)

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LaVar Arrington (44:24)

Who does that?

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LaVar Arrington (44:38)

I wouldn't do it alone.

Amanda Knox (44:41)

Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. For decades, people traveled across the world to see John of God, desperate for cures no doctor could offer. And when they arrived, they saw things they couldn't explain.

Jonas Knox (45:01)

This is real.

LaVar Arrington (45:01)

This guy's actually doing surgery and it's a miracle. I never believed that miracles were real until that point.

Amanda Knox (45:09)

But behind those adoring crowds was something much darker. One of the reasons why I never went to the police is because I saw at least five or six men with guns. Everywhere he went. That was clear to me. Like, close your mouth, don't open your mouth, don't say anything. I'm your host Martina Castro and in the podcast Two Faced John of God, we'll look back on a man who claimed he could perform miracles and got people from all around the world to believe him. From exactly right and adonde Media. This is Two Faced John of God. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we've got some incredible guests like Kumail Nanjiani. Let's start with your Cat. How is she?

Jonas Knox (45:56)

She is not with us anymore.

Amanda Knox (45:58)

Okay, great, great, great. Way to start. So this is a great beginning and hopefully you'll be able to, I don't know, maybe you will cry. Amanda Seyfried. Life is so short. If you feel something like that, you have that fire in you for this experience, it's not for a guy. It's for the experience of being in love. And like, it's bigger than a guy. Elizabeth Olsen. I love swimming naked so much. And I know you love taking pictures of yourself. I love to be naked. I just want to be in my bra underwear all the time. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me? Are you a boy or girl? Oh, my God. All the time. I know. So I'm always like, hi. I try to butch it up for kids. Kids, you know, so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up. It's basically like an angry woman. Doris Day, right? No, I turn into Bea Arthur. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Jonas Knox (46:52)

It is a Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington. Hi, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys coming up top of next hour. First of all, we're going to tell you about how some fan base thinks this is a lie that is being told to you in the NFL. And then we're going to into a another potential lie that's being told and it's being told in real time today. That'll be yours coming up here a little over 10 minutes from now. As a friendly reminder, we are being simulcast right now on YouTube.

LaVar Arrington (47:20)

Check us out.

Jonas Knox (47:21)

Hello to you.

LaVar Arrington (47:22)

Good. I look overweight, so I don't. You want to see what obese overweight looks like?

Jonas Knox (47:27)

What are you talking about?

LaVar Arrington (47:28)

See my big old belly?

Jonas Knox (47:29)

What are you talking about?

LaVar Arrington (47:30)

It's ridiculous. My man boobs. It's all right.

Jonas Knox (47:34)

I'm wearing a jacket that's literally falling apart. Look at this thing. Like, it's literally falling apart.

LaVar Arrington (47:38)

You can't tell. The camera can't see it.

Jonas Knox (47:40)

You don't know why.

LaVar Arrington (47:41)

You look nice because it's black and I'm Drac.

Jonas Knox (47:45)

So black and Drac will. Will continue on top of X hour. But we do want to remind you though to check out that YouTube channel. It's 2 Pros FSR on YouTube. Again, that's 2 Pros FSR. Be sure to hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up icon comment away. Let us know who on the show you agree with, who you think is wrong. Check out our new channel on YouTube again to search 2 pros FSR and subscribe the Kansas City Chief Chiefs, they have done a little restructuring with Patrick Mahomes contract to create some cap space. They converted over $54 million of his deal into a signing bonus. Not surprising. We've seen this done elsewhere. They may also do the same with Chris Jones as well too. They're one of the more interesting teams to watch this off season heading into next season because the fan base doesn't want to believe and people that love the Chiefs and love what they've done don't want to believe that it's over. But do you believe that based on what we've seen, the injury, the cap issues, the rest of the league, do you believe that the run for the Kansas City Chiefs is over? Yes, I think I'm with you, but

LaVar Arrington (48:59)

I told y' all that before this season I thought the run was over.

Jonas Knox (49:02)

And it's not to say they're not still going to be a very good team and not be competitive, but I think it just goes to show you look, when New England went on that run in the early 2000s and won those Super Bowls, there was a long break between winning another super bowl, like after the 17 and OC or near perfect season that was spoiled by the Giants. They didn't win a Super bowl for another decade, but they were still in contention. Like they were still either going to a Super bowl or in an AFC title game. They were still there. They just didn't get over the hump. And I look at Kansas City and I go, even when they were winning the Super Bowls, it's not like it was Mahomes and the offense who was carrying them. It was really their defense.

LaVar Arrington (49:45)

It was really the defense.

Jonas Knox (49:46)

And I just being honest and I just look at it and I go, I don't. I'm not sure how long, how much longer Andy Reid wants to do it. Who knows what Travis Kelsey's future. You're going to need them to do something similar to what New England did. And I don't know that there's any other organization in football or maybe in sports who's done it the way New England did. And that's why I think I kind of lean in your direction there.

LaVar Arrington (50:08)

Kansas City can figure it out. They can because they have a system, a process that has been created and it works. It was created and worked in Philly. It didn't quite get them all the way over, but it was carried over and continued in KC and it worked. Can they do it? They can do it. How likely is it it? You know, I think that depends on how much energy, like as you mentioned on Andy Reid, how much energy he has left in the tank to put in the effort that is needed to be orchestrating that type of setup. So can they do it? Yeah. But do I think that. That their run has come to an end? I thought it was slowly coming to an end. And then the injury to Patrick Mahomes, he won't be the same this year. I think it's. Yeah, I think it's a wrap.

Jonas Knox (50:58)

I think Chiefs fans are going to be pissed off about.

LaVar Arrington (51:00)

Yeah, they might be a little upset about it, but. But they're in the back of their minds like, yeah, he's probably right. They're probably right.

Jonas Knox (51:06)

Could be worse. You could be this fan base. We'll tell you which fan base that is next here on the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio.

Amanda Knox (51:14)

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