Hour 2 – DeMar DeRozan and the Basketball Hall of Fame, Matt Miller

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show

Episode: Hour 2 – DeMar DeRozan and the Basketball Hall of Fame, Matt Miller
Date: February 26, 2026
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on a lively roundtable discussion about the Basketball Hall of Fame, using DeMar DeRozan’s milestone as a jumping-off point to ask what makes someone a Hall of Famer, and whether the criteria are too broad. The show then transitions into an in-depth NFL Draft segment with ESPN’s Matt Miller, tackling hot-button topics like the importance of physical measurements at the NFL Combine, top draft prospects (especially Jeremiah Love), and quarterback development. As always, Dan and the Danettes keep the tone humorous, conversational, and full of side stories—including a sidetrack about New Jersey pride and a tongue-in-cheek debate about the value of silver versus bronze medals.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Dan Patrick Show’s Style and Approach

Timestamps: 02:05–05:20

• Dan explains the show’s unscripted, improvisational format, which contrasts with his “scripted” ESPN days.
• Quote: “When I left, I said, I’m going to do a show the way I want to do a show...more reflective of my personality instead of the personality of my bosses.” — Dan Patrick (03:53)

2. Basketball Hall of Fame Debate—What Should the Standard Be?

Timestamps: 07:20–15:39

• DeMar DeRozan’s Career Milestone: DeRozan moves to 20th all-time in NBA scoring, prompting the panel to ask—is high scoring enough for Hall of Fame induction?
• Ensemble vs. Star Power: The crew discusses players who “got in” mainly as ensemble members (e.g., Michael Cooper, Draymond Green), versus pure individual merit.
• True Criteria: Is it about impact, stats, accolades, or being part of iconic teams?
• Notable Quotes:
  • “If you got 26,000 points, you’re in.” — Dan Patrick on Hall of Fame benchmarks (08:17)
  • “That’s an ensemble induction. It’s not just McCartney and Lennon. It’s also Ringo and George Harrison...Ringo is Michael Cooper.” — Dan Patrick (08:58-09:10)
• They debate “less exciting” but productive Hall of Famers: Joe Johnson, Ben Wallace, Rudy Gobert.
• The group underscores how being part of a championship squad (esp. as a key role player) helps one’s Hall chances.

3. College Legends & Inexplicable Snubs

Timestamps: 10:38–12:46

• Christian Laettner Debate: Laettner, though one of the most decorated college players, isn’t in the Hall due to a pedestrian NBA career. The group contrasts his snub with other ensemble inductees, pointing out inconsistencies.
• Digger Phelps Mystery: Dan is stunned to learn legendary Notre Dame coach Digger Phelps is not in the Hall of Fame.
• Quote: “Digger Phelps is not in the Basketball Hall of Fame. Can we check and see if that’s true?...Tough standards there. Tough standards.” — Dan Patrick (11:14, 15:29)

4. New Jersey and State Pride Shtick

Timestamps: 15:46–21:00

• The group riffs on New Jersey’s reputation, using Jack Hughes (Devils star) call-out after a win as a spark for jokes about “the great state of New Jersey.”
• Notable Quotes:
  • “Not every state is the great state.” — Dan Patrick (16:48)
  • “I wouldn’t say New Jersey was a great state.” — Dan Patrick (17:43)
• Jokes fly about naming rest stops after celebrities (e.g., Bon Jovi), dropping “New” from New Jersey, and the “what exit” stereotype.

5. NFL Draft & Combine Talk with Matt Miller

Timestamps: 25:27–39:54

• Physical Measurements Craze: Why “arm length” has become the new “hand size” at the NFL Combine.
  • “I still don’t know that arm length matters...It’s that time of year. We get pretty bored in late February and need something to talk about.” — Matt Miller (25:53)
• Draft Needs: Long arms are ideal for both tackles and edge rushers, but footwork, health, and technique also matter enormously.
• Top Prospect: Jeremiah Love (Notre Dame RB):
  • Matt argues Love is the clear #1 talent in the draft: “It’s not particularly close...He has the Notre Dame record for most touchdown runs over 90 yards...” (29:38)
  • Compared to Saquon Barkley/ Bijan Robinson; expects him to be a generational talent and surefire top-10 pick, but warns that Kansas City might snag him, further strengthening a dynasty.
  • Dan: “He was the one that you had to account for. Every single game, every single play.” (31:38)
  • Miller: “Please do not let Jeremiah Love fall to Kansas City. Don’t let that happen.” (30:40)
• Chiefs’ Sustainability: Despite roster holes and being over the cap, Mahomes covers a lot of flaws—hence the Chiefs’ predicted win total remains high.
  • “Patrick Mahomes. It’s that simple. They have Mahomes. And that will win you a lot of ball games.” — Matt Miller (32:36)
• Quarterbacks in the Draft: Miller ranks Mendoza, Ty Simpson, then a toss-up for 3rd, discussing the volatility and changing evaluation of quarterbacks like J.J. McCarthy.

6. Modern RB Usage & NFL Evolution

Timestamps: 41:03–41:37

• Dan and Paulie discuss the shift from traditional backs like Kenneth Walker to multipurpose players like Jameer Gibbs and Jeremiah Love.
• Quote: “Today’s running back is not necessarily Kenneth Walker. It’s more Jameer Gibbs. And I think that’s where Jeremiah Love (fits).” — Dan Patrick (41:03)

7. Fun Listener Interaction: Dream Jobs

Timestamps: 42:09–45:07

• Listeners ask what each Danette would do for a dream job if not on the show:
  • Todd: Executive with the Denver Broncos (ideally with stadium office)
  • Seaton: Working in pro soccer (team or league side)
  • Marvin: Producing a basketball podcast
  • Paulie: Developing travel TV shows
  • Dan: Full-time (mostly unemployed) actor or perhaps Jeopardy! host—“Daniel Day Patrick.” (44:47)

8. Medal Debate: Silver or Bronze?

Timestamps: 46:16–46:48

• Is it better to win a silver medal (lose in the final) or a bronze (win a consolation game)?
• Dan and most prefer silver: “I would rather settle for the silver...because I at least got a chance to play for the championship.” (46:20)

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Timestamped Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the Hall of Fame:
  • “If you got 26,000 points, you’re in.” — Dan Patrick (08:17)
  • “That’s an ensemble induction...Ringo is Michael Cooper.” — Dan Patrick (08:58)
  • “Why is it so tough for college guys to get into the Basketball Hall of Fame?” — Dan Patrick (12:07)
  • “Christian Laettner...he’s not him.” — Dan Patrick (10:38)
• On Combine Measurement Hype:
  • “I still don’t know that arm length matters...unless you have context to that.” — Matt Miller (25:53)
• On NFL’s Most Coveted Prospect:
  • “Jeremiah Love, running back, Notre Dame. I don’t think it’s particularly close.” — Matt Miller (29:38)
  • “Please do not let Jeremiah Love fall to Kansas City.” — Matt Miller (30:40)
• On Show Philosophy:
  • “I’m going to do a show the way I want to do a show.” — Dan Patrick (03:53)
• State Pride Banter:
  • “Not every state is the great state.” — Dan Patrick (16:48)
  • “Bon Jovi has a rest stop.” — Dan Patrick (19:55)
• Dream Jobs:
  • “I would probably just be an actor, full-time actor, probably mostly unemployed, but I’d be a full-time actor.” — Dan Patrick (44:47)

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Additional Memorable and Humorous Moments

• Running gag: Todd’s bar conversation with two sisters in Santa Monica; the group teases his lack of social cue awareness and "hoarding" attention at the bar. (05:41–06:54, 42:40–44:16)
• Ongoing banter: About New Jersey accents, rest stops named after celebrities, and which state warrants being called “great.”
• State-related humor: Light jabs at Ohio, Cincinnati, and the “which exit?” New Jersey trope.

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Segment Timestamps

• 02:05 — Show philosophy & poll question recap
• 07:20 — DeMar DeRozan & Hall of Fame criteria
• 10:38 — Laettner and Digger Phelps Hall snubs
• 15:46 — New Jersey pride and “great state” jokes
• 25:27 — Matt Miller (NFL Draft & Combine)
• 41:03 — The evolving NFL running back
• 42:09 — Danettes’ dream jobs
• 46:16 — Silver vs. bronze medals debate

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Conclusion

This rapidly paced and wide-ranging episode of The Dan Patrick Show seamlessly blends sports analysis with humor and candid storytelling. From Hall of Fame debates and draft insights to playful jabs about state pride and aspirations beyond radio, Dan and the Danettes deliver a highly engaging listen that’s as much about sports’ cultural quirks as about its numbers.

If you missed it: You’ll walk away with a fresh perspective on how Hall of Fame decisions are made (or muddled), learn why NFL scouts obsess over fractions of an inch, and get a laugh from the crew’s self-deprecating confessions and friendly ribbing.

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Seaton]

Yeah, we got three of them right now. Which are you more more looking forward to from this year's combine? Hand size or arm length? Hand size. At 61% of that vote, do you know the length of your arms? 82% say no. And would you rather have small hands or short arms? Small hands. Right now, 52% of that vote, people would rather have small hands.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, these are the kind of questions you expect here on the Dan

[Seaton]

Patrick, we cover things like this better than anybody. I could say that confidently.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think there are too many shows stealing this stuff.

[Seaton]

Yeah, they wish they could, but you can't. Yeah, you can't do it this good.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, you know, we just come in with a great script, we follow the script and we do it for three hours. I'm still amazed that people think that this is scripted. When I was at the mothership, you could say that it was scripted because I had to check the boxes every day when we were doing radio, and I vowed that I wouldn't do that again. I'm very appreciative of having that platform at ESPN for all those years to do radio. But when I left, I said, I'm going to do a show the way I want to do a show. And, you know, having fun still covering sports, but do it in a way that is more reflective of my personality instead of the personality of my bosses.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paulie, we have a light plan of topics, but for example, yesterday, a minute before the show starts, you're walking into the room and you go, you watched that Texas Tech game last night. Did you hear the rims? Like, yeah, I did hear the rims. And then you started there.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paulie]

And it went. Yes. And that's the flexibility we have.

[Dan Patrick]

And then it kind of morphed into the worst sounds in sports and then best sounds in sports. But it's fun. I mean, I got to admit, there are days when we come in and we go, what are we going to Talk about. And I go, I have no idea. And all of a sudden, music starts. The bells. And then here we go. You got to fill up three hours every single day. But, you know, you walk into a bar and you see your friends and you have a good time. That's kind of the feeling.

[Todd]

How do you talk sports for three hours every day? That's ridiculous.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Todd. Alrighty. Do we want to update the poll?

[Todd]

110. 98 rockets.

[Seaton]

Move on. This is sort of back to that Jeopardy. Question that we had, where it's like, we do well in one category. They do well in all of them.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Todd, did you ever correspond with those two girls that you met in Santa Monica?

[Todd]

I did with the younger one. She wanted to send Saki. I don't know if she. I think they did. They started their own Saki.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I don't know. The younger one, they both looked young.

[Seaton]

Which is the one that liked you. Which is the one that didn't like you.

[Todd]

The older one didn't care for me. She's the one that said, how could you talk about sports? Who's the one? Why do they have your picture on this girl's shirt? The younger one that I was talking to more, that seemed to have more of a personality and less of the valley girl thing. Sorry, Just call it her as they see it. She's the one that, like, they started a sake company and she wanted to send some to the studio. She seemed more like chatty and fun. Okay, I like chatty, fun people.

[Seaton]

What type of pun did you reply with when you heard how it was a sake company? Did you say, oh, I'm sure you had a cool.

[Todd]

Yeah, she was talking about it at length and was pitching it too much, I think. I said, put a sake in it.

[Dan Patrick]

And then she. There you go.

[Todd]

I don't think she liked that. I said, I'm just joking. And she walked away. Rightfully so.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, that's your charm, though. You know. Know you. I can just see once, you know, that somebody wants to talk to you, and then it's on.

[Todd]

But the problem is I don't pick up those social cues when they go anyway.

[Dan Patrick]

And I'm like.

[Todd]

And then I start continuing to talk like that could mean that they want to move on to somebody else.

[Dan Patrick]

We were leaving the bar, Big Dean's in Santa Monica. We were leaving a couple of times, and you just chatting away.

[Todd]

And she said, well, it's nice to meet you. And she's getting up, and I'm following her to the next part. Of the bar.

[Marvin]

What are you doing?

[Todd]

What am I doing?

[Dan Patrick]

And you don't even drink. You're just sitting there. And you found somebody who had a sympathetic ear and was familiar with the

[Todd]

show, trying out my bad material.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, my God.

[Todd]

Uncomfortably laughing to try to make me feel better.

[Dan Patrick]

And then her sister was just not having it.

[Todd]

Four, two reds. So what? How could you talk about that for three hours? It's crazy.

[Dan Patrick]

Pistons beat the Thunder OKC without five of its top six scores and their their sixth highest score left at halftime. He got hurt. Spurs beat the Raptors. San Antonio first double digit winning streak since 2015. They've won 10 in a row. And DeMar DeRozan, he had 15 points in the Kings loss against the Rockets. The reason why I bring it up, he is now 20th on the all time scoring list. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes that. What? Stat of the day. All right, Paul, say it.

[Paulie]

Okay. You and I have talked about this. Demar DeRozan is a very good basketball player. Has been for a long time. I'm assuming he's going to the hall of Fame someday. Based off his career.

[Dan Patrick]

I think if you got 26,000 points, you're in.

[Marvin]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm going to guess he moved past John Havilchek and Paul Pierce.

[Paulie]

Is there a less exciting game of a surefire hall of Famer or a guy going to the hall of Fame?

[Dan Patrick]

Joe Johnson didn't go into the hall of Fame. I don't.

[Paulie]

In our hall of Fame, he would be. I don't know.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you think he's going to hall of Fame, Marv?

[Marvin]

The one at Springfield?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

[Marvin]

You know. Do you know who's been in the hall of Fame recently? And I do not want to do this because it's not nice, but there's some guys with no All Star appearances that are in Springfield.

[Dan Patrick]

Who?

[Marvin]

Michael Cooper.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but he played for the Lakers. He won championships.

[Marvin]

Oh, I'm, I'm with you.

[Dan Patrick]

So, I mean, that's Draymond Green. That, that's an ensemble induction. That's. That's where you go. It's not just McCartney and Lennon. It's also Ringo and George Harrison.

[Paulie]

Ringo is Michael Cooper. That's new.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paulie]

Joe Johnson, quickly. He went to six straight All Star games. Seven total. That's a nice number. But again, his game, like when they show the highlight package in Springfield.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Nobody's gonna go, oh, my God. Ooh, it's gonna be mid range jumper. Mid range jumper. Mid range jumper. Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin]

Yeah. The Basketball hall of Fame started to go off on a little tangent. Iconic players, iconic teams. That's what it is. If you are a part of the 83 Sixers, if you're Mo Cheeks and Bobby Jones, you're in. If you're Casey Jones, Sam Jones, Tommy Hindson on the 60 Celtics, you're in.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm okay with it.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

Same.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, I, I. Now, DeMar DeRozan is not an exciting

[Marvin]

player, but young DeMar, young DeMar.

[Paulie]

He had a few years. He went to three straight all star games in Toronto and 23 points. 27 points. 23 points. And he did it all without shooting three spaces.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I know that's mid range jumper.

[Paulie]

Is he SGA before sga, Marvin?

[Marvin]

Sga light, perhaps without the athleticism.

[Paulie]

No offense.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, why do we think there is such a generosity or lack of angst around who to put into the Basketball hall of Fame? There's no shortage of candidates. It's like we only have 11 people over the last 20 years in the hall of Fame. We better stop putting people in that may not deserve it.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, you know where I stand with this. Christian Laettner is probably one of the top five college basketball players, decorated college basketball players of all time. He's not him. And then a friend of mine goes, you know, you keep talking about people who aren't in the hall of Fame. You know, your boy Digger Phelps is not in the hall of Fame. And I go, digger Phelps is not in the Basketball hall of Fame. Can we check and see if that's true? Digger Phelps, Notre Dame still alive. Not in the Basketball hall of Fame. Wow.

[Paulie]

Checking. I. There's mixed reports here.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin]

As far as the Basketball hall of Fame, Sonny Vaccaro and, and Leitner, those are your two guys that you need to get in.

[Dan Patrick]

But I would want Digger Phelps in. And you know what's going to hurt him is he actually sent me a recruiting letter when I was in high school. And they'll go, how much did he know about basketball? That's the sticking point.

[Paulie]

It's a meeting.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. But a couple weeks later, they then told me that they were not recruiting me.

[Marvin]

So he knew talent.

[Dan Patrick]

I didn't show them. I didn't show my friends, my teammates. The second letter I got. I just showed them the first letter. Hey, we're interested and alumni are alumnus in the area is recommending you. I don't think Digger Phelps is in the Basketball hall of Fame. Yes.

[Todd]

Yeah. Everything I'm looking at Suggests he is not. He was honored by Notre Dame in their Ring of Honor or whatever, but nothing suggests that he's in the Basketball

[Seaton]

hall of Fame at all.

[Dan Patrick]

Why is it so tough for college guys to get into the Basketball hall of Fame? Yeah.

[Marvin]

Marvin, Is it the combo Grant Hill's in? Yeah, because Grant Hill had a really good start to his NBA career, as well as a great year. Great career at Duke.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

So I think it was the lack of success that Leitner had in the NBA that hurts him. If he had gotten hurt in year three in the NBA, he would have been in the hall of Fame 15 years ago. Ralph Sampson effect.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but he played like 13 years in the NBA, but not at. I know.

[Marvin]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

But that's what I'm saying. Played in the NBA for 13 years.

[Marvin]

But not everyone that plays in The NBA for 13 years goes to the hall of Fame.

[Dan Patrick]

Ralph Sampson's in the Basketball hall of Fame.

[Marvin]

Correct. But like I said before, it was because of the injuries. If he had played 15 years of just average level basketball, I don't think he'd be in.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

All right. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, here's another name that I think has bothered you in the past. No offense. Ben Wallace, former defensive player for the Pistons. He was the depoy four times.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Paulie]

That award got him in because his stats are.

[Dan Patrick]

Rudy Gobert is going to be a Hall of Famer. He is. That is. Wow.

[Seaton]

So interesting.

[Dan Patrick]

But Ben did win an NBA championship, right?

[Marvin]

He did.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Rudy Gobert is going to be a Hall of Famer.

[Paulie]

He is probably. He has three all star appearances, but he's got four Defensive Player of the Year awards, just like Ben Wallace.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And look, I. I hate doing this because we do this when we were like, Ben Wallace to me, is not a Hall of Famer. He's not very, very, very limited offensively. Defensively. Yes. Weak side help. He was wonderful. Just. If they don't win a championship, is he in the hall of Fame? I don't think so, but that's what you know. Okay. You're part of this group, an ensemble. Okay. Well, Leitner was part of an ensemble at Duke, if you want to look at it that way. Yes. Mark.

[Marvin]

Yeah. Going back to Ben Wallace, this might be the Eli Manning effect, who the Pistons beat. They beat the Shaq and Kobe Lakers in the NBA Finals. So I think that helped him get into the hall of Fame as well.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Michael Cooper won titles. I mean, he's in because it's an ensemble. Yes. Mark.

[Marvin]

Yeah. He was on All Five Showtime Lakers teams.

[Seaton]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

Like a lot of those guys. Some were on three, some were on two. He was on all five.

[Dan Patrick]

Draymond Green plays for the Hawks. He's not in the hall of Fame. He's part of the ensemble with Golden State. He's to be a Hall of Famer. Yes. Paul.

[Paulie]

Here's another guy that I don't think anyone questioned when he was up for the hall of Fame. Manager Nobly of the spurs. He started 350 games out of 1100. He was not even a starter for most of his career. Two time all star and no. But what he did in the. In the playoffs.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

No problem.

[Dan Patrick]

Putting in international player.

[Todd]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

As well. Yes. Todd.

[Todd]

Not exactly a consolation prize, but. Digger Phelps, Rider, Athletics hall of Fame. Playing a couple years at Ryder. Not exactly getting into Springfield.

[Dan Patrick]

First ballot. Here's the hall of Fame. First ballot. Ryder College reserve.

[Todd]

A hoopster at three seasons at Ryder, then became a graduate assistant.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, man. Digger's not in the hall of Fame. Tough standards there. Tough standards. I'd like to be on the board there. Be on the committee.

[Paulie]

Ryder University.

[Dan Patrick]

No. Basketball hall of Fame.

[Seaton]

The pride of Lawrenceville, if I'm not mistaken. That Ryder.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know

[Todd]

the Ryder. Bronx, by the way.

[Dan Patrick]

Are they curious.

[Todd]

B, R O, N, C S. Not Broncos. The Rider.

[Dan Patrick]

Bronx. Bronx.

[Seaton]

Shout out. New Jersey.

[Dan Patrick]

Jack Hughes gave a shout out, the gold medal winning star. And they played last night, the Devils. And here's Jack Hughes.

[Todd]

Hughes.

[Emily Simpson]

I'm so proud and I'm so happy that the men's and women's USA Hockey

[Todd]

teams brought gold medals back to the United States of America.

[Seaton]

Go.

[Todd]

You guys are making me emotional.

[Emily Simpson]

But I'm.

[Todd]

I'm so proud to represent the New Jersey Devils organization.

[Emily Simpson]

And I'm so, so proud to represent

[Todd]

the great state of New Jersey.

[Dan Patrick]

So proud. Oh, come on. No. Satan.

[Seaton]

Now that's a guy who gets it right there.

[Dan Patrick]

Not every state. Not every state is the great state.

State.

[Seaton]

New Jersey is one of them.

[Dan Patrick]

Really? Hell yeah. Are they all great?

[Todd]

He's so emotional, Jack Hughes, that he can't see straight. I don't know if you. There used to be an old skit from Joe Piscopo saying, I love you so.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm from Jersey.

[Todd]

You're from Jersey. What state? What exit? That's what he would. That's how he would do a little shtick. I don't think every state is great.

[Dan Patrick]

So you're saying Jersey is not great?

[Todd]

I'm. I'm saying I would make it analogous to Someone that would say, like, if they were talking about the boroughs of New York from the great borough of Staten Island. I don't think anyone's going to say that.

[Dan Patrick]

My wife would. That's because she grew up there, Rich Eisenwood.

[Todd]

Yeah, but if you didn't grow up there.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

Soon to be Rock and Roll hall of Famers. Wu Tang Clan would certainly appreciate Staten Island.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Is New York a great state?

[Todd]

I would say so. They have their problems like any other state. It's a rat population, but it's.

[Dan Patrick]

But is every state a great, great state?

[Todd]

I don't think it is. Those that live there, they might say that.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, well, Seaton's from Jersey. I wouldn't say New Jersey was a great state.

[Seaton]

What you. We're having a good day.

[Dan Patrick]

Why are you picking fights? I don't know.

[Seaton]

I don't know if Jack thinks it's pork roll or Taylor ham. That's really what.

[Dan Patrick]

I haven't been told to stay in my lane. And, you know, we're an hour and a half into the show.

[Seaton]

I don't feel like I could tell you to stay in your lane. In terms of New Jersey.

[Dan Patrick]

I lived in Jersey, and then that

[Seaton]

would actually lead to some type of what's exit joke. From which exit? From Todd.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I lived in Jersey, so I can, I can speak on behalf.

[Seaton]

I never understood the though like, oh, which exit?

[Dan Patrick]

Thing.

[Seaton]

As if every state doesn't have exits off of their highways. I. I don't understand that.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, maybe people from New Jersey, they always bring up the exit where they're from, then they're saying, oh, where are you from? Oh, blah, blah, blah. Oh, that's exit 90.

[Seaton]

I've never thought. I never, I don't know that I've ever done that.

[Dan Patrick]

I've never given the exit of where I live, but I've never heard any, Any other state residents where they go, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm exit. You know, I'm off the five, and then you take the, you know, I'm on exit nine.

[Seaton]

See, I don't, I don't hear. I've lived in New Jersey a long time and no one ever said, like, where are you from? Like, cerebral. Oh, exit 18 off the turnpike. I don't, I don't know that people from out of state always do the what's exit. Which exit? Joke.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paul, Are we going to rank states? Will we go forward and rank states? Like, what State is the 1 seed. What state is the.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, let Todd.

[Dan Patrick]

Let Todd. He's the one that came in this morning and said, you know, when he heard Jack Hughes, he goes, is. Is it really, you know, a great state?

[Todd]

I'll just say this. Jack Hughes wasn't desperate for cheers or applause. He got the gold medal winning goal. He didn't need to say, you know, like a comedian say how we do in Pittsburgh just to get some cheap applause. We know he did a great thing and they were going to cheer for him. He didn't need to add and represent the great state of New Jersey. Of course they're going to cheer for that. But it seemed like an unnecessarily desperate move to get the crowd extra.

[Marvin]

Marvid, do you judge the state off of the people that it's produced? If that's the case, then Jersey's up there. Look at all the rest stops.

[Dan Patrick]

And who names their rest stops geniuses?

[Seaton]

People who get it.

[Dan Patrick]

Bon Jovi has a rest stop.

[Seaton]

That's my rest stop. I live off the Bon Jovi.

[Dan Patrick]

What exit Seaton.

[Todd]

Yes, Todd, but we also say, like, to compare New York and New Jersey. Like, I grew up in New York or I live in New York. People just say Jersey and they drop the news. Or maybe there's something not so new about it. Why do we just call it Jersey? A lot of people kind of flippantly refer to New Jersey as Jersey, which to me means maybe it's not a great state.

[Seaton]

Well, it's not called great jersey. Yeah, every state has those reason. Regionalisms, though. Like, if you talk to Ross Tucker, be like, where are you from? Hershey, Pennsylvania. He always says pa. I don't know that. Paul, you've never described yourself as being from Illinois. You're a Chicago guy, right? Nobody's from Chicago. They're Chicago guys. I'm a Chicago guy. Oh, that means you're from Chicago. But nobody just says, where are you from? Chicago.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but I'm from Cincinnati. I don't say Cincinnati, Ohio.

[Seaton]

That's because nobody wants to admit they're from Cincinnati.

[Paulie]

Take that.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Marvin]

Ohio, not a great state.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I wouldn't admit that either.

[Paulie]

What's with the chili?

[Emily Simpson]

Wow, Mash

[Todd]

getting personal right now.

[Dan Patrick]

How about we take a break here? Back after this on the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Cavino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live, weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yep, that's right. You can now watch Covino enrich live on YouTube every day. All you gotta do search Covino Enrich FSU again. Go to YouTube. Search Covino Enrich FSR. Check us out on YouTube. Subscribe hit that thumbs up icon and comment away.

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[Emily Simpson]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd]

I do remember the mustache.

[Emily Simpson]

I will get a p. I will give him a meme of that mustache. Like every like six days somebody be like, what was this?

[Dan Patrick]

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[Emily Simpson]

Each week we're bringing you true crime through a legal lens.

[Dan Patrick]

Whether you want all the facts on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie or you still need to wrap your head around the Diddy verdict, we're breaking it all down step by step.

[Emily Simpson]

And we're not just lawyers, we're also husband and wife. It makes for some pretty entertaining episodes.

[Dan Patrick]

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Seaton taking a shot. My hometown of Cincinnati and he's hearing it. Don't, don't drive through Cincinnati.

[Seaton]

Yeah, I'm hearing from a lot of Ohioans telling me, oh really? If you don't like it so much, don't drive through here on your road trips anymore.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, take that. Yeah, take that. Seaton. Matt Miller, ESPN Draft Analyst and you can see him on NFL Draft Daily weekdays at 3 on ESPN2, ESPN App and Disney Plus. Matt, good to have you with us. Hand size seems like it was so three years ago. Now it's arm length. When did this happen? Why did this happen?

[Emily Simpson]

Well, it happened because this is a one quarterback draft, so we don't have the quarterbacks to obsess over. But I'll tell you this, if Ty Simpson from Alabama comes in at 6:1 with a 9 inch hand, we're probably going to be talking about it again. But because we know that Fernando Mendoza, 6 foot 4, 225 pounds, we don't have to have the panic this year about hand size because he's, we know, we know he's big enough in terms of the NFL standard. What we do get to obsess about is does Reuben Bain have 32 inch arms or not? Forget what he did in the college football playoffs. Forget that he was the most dominant defensive player in college football for most of last year. We got to worry about that quarter of an inch and how much of a difference it actually makes. And it's that time of year. Like I, I've been, this is my 15th combine. I still don't know that arm length matters. Unless you have context to that. That shows you on tape that a player's short arms or small hands are an issue. But it is one of those things that we get pretty bored in late February and need something to talk about.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. If you were going to have long arms, do you want it for your tackle or your edge rusher?

[Marvin]

Both.

[Emily Simpson]

In a perfect world.

[Dan Patrick]

Right.

[Emily Simpson]

And I. I will say this. If Will Campbell hadn't struggled in the super bowl with short arms, with sub, you know, standard arm length, I don't. Also don't know that we'd be talking about it as much as we are. But in a perfect world, you want long arms because that allows me to get to you faster. You can make up for that by having faster hands, a faster punch. You can make up for it by having better power, which Reuben Bain does. I was talking to someone at dinner last night. Reuben Bane is like a boxer, so he might have short arms, but once he gets inside your arm, he has so much power in his hands, in his arms, in his hips, that he's going to just roll over you like a dump truck once he gets there. So, yes, there are times where you would prefer an edge rusher to have longer arms. I would rather an edge rusher have power instead of relying on arm length. I think in a perfect world, you want your tackles, offensive tackles, to have that reach because it does allow them to be late at times, which is exactly what we saw in the super bowl where Will Campbell was late and didn't have the length to make up for it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but also, I don't know how, you know, injured he was with his knee. In fairness to him, I mean, he got exposed in the playoffs. It wasn't just the super bowl, and. But he's going against guys who will expose you. I mean, Will Anderson is a great edge rusher, but I don't. Do the Patriots have a problem at left tackle?

[Emily Simpson]

No, I don't think so. I think everything's fixable. And that's like, that's the key to remember with these guys. We're going to pick apart their measurements this week and their traits this week. But the idea is that these are not finished products that you're not coming into the NFL. And we say, okay, this is as good as you are. You should never get better. Will Campbell can just. I think there's some footwork stuff that could be cleaned up in terms of his. His posture, and then I think there's some timing things that could be cleaned up. And to your point, Dan, which is a great one that got Lost in the playoffs. He was playing hurt throughout the later part of the season. So that's going to also allow him, you would think, better timing as he goes to cut off those edge rushers. But also Will Anderson's going to beat you. I'm sure you've heard this saying, they get paid too. It doesn't mean Will Campbell's bad just because Will Anderson's a little bit better. Will Anderson's one of the best pass rushers in football and the Seattle Seahawks had one of the best schemes in football. So I don't, I don't think the Patriots have a problem. I think they have a player who like remember one year ago, Will Campbell had just played a season and then he's in graft grab pre combine training, then you're in pro day training, then you're in rookie minicamp, then you're in training camp, then you're playing a 17 game season. This dude hasn't had a break in and a half. And so I think it's also a matter of give him an offseason to get healthy, to get right to work with his offensive line coach. Most of these guys have a private offensive line coach they'll go work with and I bet we see an improved player next year.

[Dan Patrick]

The best player in the draft, regardless of position.

[Emily Simpson]

Jeremiah Love, running back, Notre Dame I don't think it's particularly close and you know, I don't think it's close. What he did the last years at Notre Dame was phenomenal. I mean he has the Notre Dame record for most touchdown runs over 90 yards. He had a 98 yard touchdown run against Indiana a year ago. He had a 94 yard touchdown run this year and he's 214 pounds.

[Dan Patrick]

But, but let's compare him though, Matt. If I'm going to compare him to Saquon Barkley coming out of Penn State, it'd be close.

[Emily Simpson]

They would be, they would be 1A, 1B as prospects. I think, I think he's right there with Bijan Robinson and Saquon as the best running back prospects of the last 10 years. Better than Genti because he catches the ball better. You watch him against Arkansas, he catches two touchdown passes. Like one is a legitimate route. These are not swing passes. He's, he's flexing out and running outs and catching touchdown passes. So this is, it's just so easy to see exactly how he'll fit into an NFL offense.

[Dan Patrick]

We're talking to Matt Miller, ESPN NFL draft analyst, who should take Jeremiah Love.

[Emily Simpson]

I mean I Think the conversation starts with the Cardinals at three. I mean, obviously the Raiders take Fernando Mendoza. He's. He's a winner, he's poised, he's accurate. He's everything you want in a quarterback prospect outside of maybe some better mobility. I think the jets with the trade this morning, trading Jeremiah Johnson, they're going to go edge rusher at two. So the conversation for Love probably starts at three. That's where the Cardinals are. The Titans are at four. They just added an edge rusher in Jermaine Johnson, which was one of their biggest needs. The Giants at 5. Probably not, because we love Cam Scatterbo. But then you. I think the floor is Kansas City at 9. So 3 to 3 to 9 is probably where he's at. And being here for two days now, I can tell you one thing I hear from everyone else in the NFL is please do not let Jeremiah Love fall to Kansas City. Don't let that happen. Do not give Patrick Mahomes Jeremiah love. Which, in fairness, we heard the same thing about Xavier Worthy, and it really hasn't made that much of a difference. So I think Kansas City has bigger issues than just, you know, giving Patrick Mahomes a generational running back talent.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I had Love second on my Heisman ballot. I, I thought that he was, he was a difference maker. Of all the players that I saw, he was the one that you, you had to account for. Every single game, every single play that he was in there, it was. And to have that where he can take it 90 yards, there aren't many players who can do that. And that's why, I mean, he's a top 10 pick. But when, as soon as you brought up where you think he's going to go, I immediately went, he'll fall to Kansas City at 9, you know.

[Emily Simpson]

But can they draft a running back when they have no pass rush? Their best corner is one year we're left on his contract. He could be traded. The right tackle's terrible. Their tight end is about to retire. No one receiver may be suspended. Like, can you take a running back?

[Dan Patrick]

But Matt, they're over. Under is ten and a half.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

How do you explain the Chiefs are at ten and a half according to DraftKings.

[Emily Simpson]

Patrick Mahomes. It's that simple. It's that simple. They have moms. And that will win you a lot of ball games.

[Dan Patrick]

It doesn't. But is he starting week one? Is he going to be there week one?

[Emily Simpson]

DraftKings might know more than we do about his rehab. They've got people In Texas right now, watching them work out, probably, I think Mahomes covers up a lot. I fear the Chiefs are getting to that point where they say, we have Mahomes. We can almost throw anything out there and win and be successful. And you also have Andy Reid, who is one of the greatest NFL coaches of all time, but is a roster that needs a lot of work and they only have six draft picks and they're $11 million over the cap right now, which they can. The cap's kind of fake. You can, you can make that up. But it's a. That's a roster that has a lot more holes than, than people realize because Andy and Pat have covered a lot up.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm a big Malik Willis fan, and I have been. And I could see Minnesota, Arizona, Miami going up. We'll give you three years, $100 million. I'm curious how you viewed Malik Willis when he first came out.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah, I liked him. He was my number two quarterback that year. And it was. It was tight between he and Kenny Pickett. So, I mean, we're not really Talking about the 1983 NFL Draft in terms of talent that year, but I like, I liked him. I thought he was just really inexperienced playing at Liberty. He hadn't gone against a lot of elite talent. And what I felt was he needed to play. Either go out and play with a team that was going to develop him and give him a long leash or. Or he needed to go somewhere where he could sit behind an established veteran and learn. What's weird is he really never got either of those. He never got the long leash in Tennessee. And then you go to Green Bay and Jordan Love is an established starter, but not. This isn't Matthew Stafford that you're learning behind. This isn't someone that's been in the league for 15 years, but he's played so well in spots. I'm a fan of his as well. I think when you have a quarterback that has been thrown into situations and succeeded, I think a quarterback that's battled adversity and not given up, that has really doubled down and made himself into a better player, those are the things that I would be encouraged by and I could take, like connecting the dots. A lot of people think he'll end up in Miami as long as they can figure that out cap wise with TUA moving on, going a different direction. But when you have a head coach and a general manager coming from one place to another, it does make sense that they would. You remember the movie Any given Sunday, it's like, when Al Pacino goes to the expansion team and he takes Willie Beeman with him, it almost feels like that's what the packers are about. You know, they're. The guys are going to Miami and they're like, and we're taking Malik Willis with us as well.

[Dan Patrick]

I always hear from Michigan fans when I'm critical of J.J. mcCarthy. I just didn't see it when he was in college, because the way Jim coaches, you know, it's. You got to be able to run the ball and play defense, and I don't think they relied on JJ now, he did have a couple of games where they did rely on him, but I know he's been banged up, maybe thrown in too soon, but, I mean, what's missing here? What am I missing with JJ McCarthy?

[Emily Simpson]

I think I missed it too, because I liked him coming out. And I had the same concerns. You know, I went to the Michigan pro day and talked to the coaches about, like, why. Why did you hide your quarterback at times? And their answer was, well, we didn't. We didn't hide our quarterback. We just didn't have to use him. You know, our run game was so good, our offensive line was so good. Why throw the ball if running's working? That was really their answer. And it's like, okay, well, maybe there's some truth to that. And it seems like the NFL agreed because he was a high first round pick. But I think right now he looks to me like a player where the game is just way too fast for him. And it's like, with Malik Willis, how do you. How do you fix that? You either go play a hell of a lot of football and you're given a long leash to make mistakes, or you sit and learn behind someone that knows what they're doing. And I think that's why we saw Minnesota try to bring in Daniel or keep Daniel Jones, you know, after they traded for him. I think it's why we'll see Minnesota go after a Geno Smith or a Kirk Cousins in this offseason, just so that maybe they're not giving up on McCarthy, but they're saying, okay, why don't you sit and watch somebody that knows what they're doing and to be able to do that while not injured, because, you know, when Sam Darnold was there, McCarthy was hurt, so he's not in the building taking those same reps that he would if he was the number two quarterback. He's still 22 years old, and there's still a ton of time left for J.J. mcCarthy. I think now it's kind of that moment of are you willing to admit that it's not working and do the work where guys like, you know, we have Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold. So many examples of quarterbacks that had this same moment and bounce back. I think we're, we're close to having that conversation with McCarthy.

[Dan Patrick]

Fernando Mendoza, first quarterback taken. Give me the next three quarterbacks.

[Emily Simpson]

Ty Simpson will be the second one and after that it is a mess. And I think this week will actually matter. And normally I think we come into the combine and we kind of know the quarterback or Mendoza will go first. Ty Simpson probably goes back into round one. Then I think it could be Drew Aller from Penn State who's a traits first quarterback that was injured this past year in October, didn't really get a chance to have that resume year that we would have liked to have seen from him. Carson Beck, on the other hand, comes into the year off that UCL injury and played really well down the stretch for Miami. Even if there were times they hid him a little bit, but he played well for them. And then you have Garrett Nussmeier, whose dad is an offensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints. He had kind of an up and down two years as a starter lsu, but he has the football iq, the accuracy. He kind of has a little bit of a gunslinger mentality. It's one of those guys is next and I think those would be the next three. And it will probably come down to what teams are looking for. You know, if you're the LA Rams, maybe you go after Drew Aller because Stafford's getting close to retirement age. You've proven that you want a quarterback that can make all the throws, that can push the ball down the field. That's not really Nussmeier. So it's you. You kind of start to eliminate who the guy could be based on traits that way.

[Dan Patrick]

If I put Mendoza in the draft a couple of years ago, the quarterback heavy draft, where does he go in

[Emily Simpson]

your opinion, in 24 with like Caleb and Jaden and those guys? I think he goes fourth. I, Caleb Williams is, I will maintain the best quarterback prospect I've seen. It's. He and Joe Burrow are up there as the two best in the last 10 years. I do think Jaden Daniels coming off that year at LSU still goes second. Drake May still goes third. Just on who he is as a person, the physical traits, the upside as such a young player, Mendoza is fourth. And I bet you right now the Falcons would rather have Fernando Mendoza than Michael Penn's Jr. I don't think that's even a conversation.

[Dan Patrick]

Right.

[Emily Simpson]

They would, they would be very happy with Mendoza right now.

[Dan Patrick]

If you're Houston, do you extend C.J. stroud now?

[Emily Simpson]

I would just because I think the number's only going to go up. But it has to be a common sense extension. It should not be one of these. It's your turn as a free agent. Let's reset the market with you because we've seen so much of that and it hasn't worked out. You know, these teams that extended early, really outside of Kansas City, the early extensions where contracts were bloated and ballooned didn't work out. So many of those guys ended up being cut. So I think you do it early if it can make sense financially. I don't think you give C.J. stroud $50 million a year, $60 million a year, some of the numbers that quarterbacks are expected to make in this next cycle. But I do think, I think CJ Struggles have been a little bit overstated because, you know, he's a third year quarterback. We expect these guys to make jumps. I would look at Houston's offensive line and say that offensive line just completely got reworked last year and they wiped the slate clean and started over. I still think CJ Stroud could be a really good quarterback in this league.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Matt. We'll be checking in with you.

[Emily Simpson]

Appreciate you, Dan. Thanks.

[Dan Patrick]

Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft Analyst NFL Draft Daily Weekdays at 3 on ESPN Tube ESPN app Disney plus we'll come back your phone calls after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. I do love Jeremiah Love. I just don't know where he fits in today's NFL. But being able to catch the ball is really important. You know, when you're watching the super bowl and this was pointed out by Chris Collinsworth, he said, hey, Kenneth Walker is is great runner. He just can't catch, not good at catching passes. And I think that Jameer Gibbs kind of hybrid, even B John Robinson, I don't know how many catches he had, but I want him to have at least 60 every year. I just want the ball in his hands and get him out in space. You know, they the Niners do a great job with McCaffrey, who might be more valuable as a wide receiver than he is a running back.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie Bijan this year in 17 games, 1500 yards rushing. He had 80 receptions here.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I mean, I got to get him the ball at all cost, at any cost. I got to get him out in space. But today's running back is not necessarily Kenneth Walker. It's more Jameer Gibbs. And I think that's where Jeremiah Love. And he's got that extra gear. And the fact that Matt Miller was saying, hey, Saquon Barkley and Jameer Gibbs or Jeremiah Love, very, very similar grades coming out of college.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, I have a comp on Jameer on Jeremiah Love of Notre Dame. A bigger, stronger Robert Smith of Ohio State. He has that track speed at the end, runs kind of upright, but he has a lot more to inside the tackles.

[Dan Patrick]

I thought he was going to be a star. Then he. When he drafted by Minnesota.

[Paulie]

Nice career there.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, some phone calls here. Rich in Athens. Hi, Rich. Hey, guys.

[Emily Simpson]

As always, sitting here with my puppy

[Dan Patrick]

dog, Fritzi, watching the DP show.

[Emily Simpson]

Got a quick question for all five of you guys. Other than being Dan and the Danette

[Dan Patrick]

on the DP show, what would be your dream career? Todd?

[Todd]

Well, since I'm not. I don't have enough money to own the Denver Broncos. I would be something. Maybe have some type of special position with the Broncos and have an office overlooking the Mile High stadium and the horse.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, do you know what you would do?

[Todd]

Some type of executive position that paid a lot of money? I don't know exactly. Maybe something in community or media related, public relations.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm sure they'd love. Oh, by the way, we found the picture of you at Big Dean's in Santa Monica with the. With the sisters. And if you're watching on Peacock, if Mario can put that up there, there's Todd. And Todd is very, very involved in the conversation with one of the sisters. The other one, I think the one you're talking to, the one she was interested in talking to you because she was a fan of the show. The other one, she had no interest whatsoever. She did not care, didn't understand, did

[Todd]

not have any understanding at all as to how he could possibly talk sports. For three.

[Dan Patrick]

You were hoarding the. The girls that night, the women.

[Todd]

I wasn't intending to, but I found it.

[Dan Patrick]

Like you said, I found a new audience. No, you are. You're. You're a hoarder. Look at your body language. You were kind of boxing people out.

[Todd]

Had my elbow out and everything.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, some of the back room guys are single and you were not a team player.

[Todd]

They come over I'd say I'm busy, guys. We'll talk later. See.

[Seaton]

Yeah, see, I wonder if those women know the impact they've had on this show. I wonder if they're aware.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I would think the sister, the one sister who was, you know, interested in Todd talking. She's a listener though, isn't she, Todd? That the ones. The fan that I think it started

[Todd]

with, I think the mom was a fan and she came down to the show.

[Dan Patrick]

The mom was a fan.

[Todd]

She introduced the two daughters. And so I don't know how much of a fan the two daughters are, but I think mom listened a lot.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Seaton, what would be your dream job?

[Seaton]

Working in soccer, either for a team or a league or one of the broadcast partners. That's. I would love that, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Probably producing a basketball podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Paul.

[Paulie]

Developing travel TV shows.

[Marvin]

Travel?

[Paulie]

Yeah, more like travel experience, you know, like whether it be like a brewery tour, things like that, like TV shows.

[Dan Patrick]

I would probably just be an actor, full time actor, probably mostly unemployed, but I'd be a full time actor.

[Seaton]

Semi retired.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. I'm reading scripts now. I would be like Daniel Day Patrick. Yeah. I don't know if I'm retired. Maybe something brings me back. I'd be between projects. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marvin, if you could host Entertainment Tonight once a week, would you do it?

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Paulie]

You wouldn't?

[Marvin]

Once a week?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I don't think so.

[Seaton]

That is, that is by far your dream job is hosting Entertainment Tonight.

[Dan Patrick]

It used to be when Mary Hart was there there.

[Seaton]

Can we get Access Hollywood? Can we get Nancy o' Dell back in the picture?

[Dan Patrick]

Nancy o' Dell alding. I like Nancy o'. Dell. No, I don't think those shows have the impact that they once did.

[Paulie]

Wow.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I'm saying they don't. I would probably host Jeopardy. I'd probably do that. That was. And I was pretty close to hosting that years ago. So thank you there, Rich. David in Maine. Hi, David. Hey, morning, Dan. Good morning, Dan. As I am a first time caller, 6 foot 1, 190 and dropping. Hey, I want to ask your opinion when it comes to the Olympic, the team sports, hockey, basketball, is it better to win a silver medal or a bronze medal? If you win a silver, that means you just lost a game, but if

[Paulie]

you win a bronze, you just won a game.

[Dan Patrick]

I would rather settle for the silver. I don't want to say win the silver, but settle for a silver because I at least got a chance to play for the championship or the gold. Todd.

[Todd]

Yeah, but bronze. You won a medal all right, you got a medal. But Silva, you lost the goal.

[Dan Patrick]

That's participation trophy stuff. Marvin, how about you? The silver Seaton. Silver, Paul.

[Seaton]

Silver.

[Dan Patrick]

Final hour in this Thursday, the gold medal performance.

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