Hour 2: Diana Russini & Mike Vrabel Investigations

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: Diana Russini & Mike Vrabel Investigations

Date: April 13, 2026
Hosts: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox (in for Dan Patrick)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts / Fox Sports Radio

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Episode Overview

Hour 2 of The Dan Patrick Show dives deep into the unfolding saga involving NFL insider Diana Russini and coach Mike Vrabel. The hosts analyze the credibility, ethical implications, and broader consequences the controversy has for sports journalism. The second half transitions into a discussion about the lack of excitement surrounding the upcoming NFL draft, its storylines, and changes to the industry. True to form, the episode is candid, humorous, and pulls no punches about media dynamics in sports.

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Key Discussion Points

1. The Diana Russini & Mike Vrabel Investigation

[03:27–27:40]

• Background

  • Diana Russini, formerly of ESPN and now The Athletic, becomes the subject of an internal investigation after being linked to a rooftop encounter with Mike Vrabel, recently let go as head coach of the Tennessee Titans. The Athletic, after initially backing Russini, pulls her from reporting duties; her contract is up soon.
  • Vrabel will not participate in the team’s pre-draft press conference, presumably to avoid media scrutiny on the incident.

• Media Handling and PR Blunders

  • The hosts question the wisdom of Vrabel and Rossini staying silent:

    "If it was as open and shut as the coach initially made it sound, there’s no problem being in front of the cameras." – LaVar Arrington [05:34]

  • Delaying statements only allows the story to grow, with speculation filling the void of answers.

    "You’re allowing other people now to control the narrative with speculation, more photos and more videos..." – Jonas Knox [07:19]

• Impact on Insider Journalism and Integrity

  • The investigation puts a spotlight on the methods insiders use to obtain information, especially as rumors swirl about personal relationships being the source of scoops.
  • Broader questions are raised about gender double standards for insiders and source credibility.

• Notable Exchange on Journalistic Integrity:

  "Journalistic integrity of outlets is probably going to find themselves in question because of something like this in specific. No way around it." – LaVar Arrington [11:49]

• Skepticism about Official Stories

  • The hosts mock the idea that a group of six unnamed friends were present on the rooftop, casting doubt on the official narrative.

    "Do you know why you haven’t heard from those other people? Because they didn’t exist. That’s why. They weren’t there. It’s a BS story." – Brady Quinn [20:53]

  • Discussion about what it would mean for The Athletic and Russini to provide evidence of the six friends, and how much hinges on this detail.

• Consequences for Careers

  • The fallout is likely to end Diana Russini’s run at The Athletic, while criticism of double standards emerges (reporters are easier to let go than coaches).

• Casual Banter and Humor

  • The hosts discuss the implicit norms surrounding insider information and the unspoken ways certain reporters attract stories.
  • Banter about "how the sausage is made" in sports media and references to the upside-down pineapple (a playful symbol in the conversation).

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2. The Upcoming NFL Draft Lacks Buzz

[34:53–44:09]

• Anticipation Gap

  • Despite expecting over 700,000 attendees for the draft in Pittsburgh, the media and fan excitement is notably subdued.

    "Just sort of right around the corner... it just doesn't feel like... it's all that it's cracked up to be in years past." – Jonas Knox [34:53]

• The Mendoza Factor

  • Discussion centers on top QB prospect Fernando Mendoza, who is seen as squeaky-clean and the obvious #1 pick, robbing the event of suspense or controversy.

    "Get a flaw, Mendoza. Get a bad habit... so we have something to talk about." – Brady Quinn, jokingly [35:13]

• Draft Class Weakness

  • Unlike past years, few other prospects are perceived as franchise-changing, especially with less depth at premier positions (tackles, edge rushers, cornerbacks).

    "Not those two position groups... when those are the best overall prospect players... it takes a knock at some of these guys." – Jonas Knox [40:31]

• Storylines in Comparison

  • Previous drafts had narratives (e.g., RG3 vs Andrew Luck, Shilo Sanders last year), which are missing this year, resulting in less “drama” for the media to fuel.

• Cultural and Media Industry Changes

  • Discussion about the diminished role of insider reporters, now that athletes and teams share scoops directly via social media.
  • Reflection on how much insider information matters to fans, and whether the risks reporters take are worth it.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the Diana Russini & Mike Vrabel Saga

• On the Athletic's support changing:

  "They tried to put it to sleep, put it to bed real quick... But the fact that it's like, Oh, no, we're not done talking about it – it shows you how powerful the public is."
  — LaVar Arrington [26:58]

• Skepticism about corroborating witnesses:

  "Like, how difficult of a job it is to find six people that don’t exist? That’s crazy. Talk about reporting. She pulls that off…"
  — Brady Quinn [27:11]

• Reference to the gender double standard in sourcing:

  "There's a double standard... how some of the guys do it versus maybe how people think that maybe a woman might do it."
  — Jonas Knox [13:23]

• Humorous take on media immersion into scandal:

  "When there's a story that's real muddy, a lot of people are like, ooh, I don't want to get dirty. And we say: grab a snorkel, we're going in."
  — Brady Quinn [27:42]

On the Draft Lacking Drama

• On the draft's lack of intrigue:

  "If somebody wants to slip him an ounce of crystal meth before the draft, do something, get an edge, get something so we have something to talk about."
  — Brady Quinn, jokingly, about QB Mendoza [35:15]

• Historical context:

  "Last year’s draft struggled too and they had to lean on Shilo Sanders to carry them through two days of draft coverage."
  — LaVar Arrington [42:09]

• Cynicism on industry hype:

  "Maybe there's not a belief that Mendoza is a generational talent. ... It could be an indictment on how good they view Mendoza being as a pro quarterback."
  — LaVar Arrington [43:03]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:27–13:35] – Initial overview and analysis of the Rossini/Vrabel saga; impact on The Athletic's credibility and reporting norms; gender double standards.
• [14:12–17:58] – How insiders get stories; scrutiny of sourcing and double standards in media.
• [19:12–21:41] – Absence of corroborating witnesses; why that weakens the official version of events.
• [23:07–27:40] – Does the public care about insider scoops? Reflection on journalistic value.
• [34:53–44:09] – NFL Draft preview; why this year’s event lacks buzz; draft class weakness; importance of media-generated storylines.

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Tone & Style

• Candid and irreverent: The hosts do not shy away from stating opinions, poking fun at media “spin,” and using humor to underscore points.
• Insider insight: Their discussions come from real experience in professional sports and sports media.
• Playful banter: Teasing each other about parenting sports (IRL), old rumors, and industry scandals.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a must if you want a frank, behind-the-scenes look at how sports scandals unfold in the media, and how those situations ripple through both individual careers and the industry as a whole. It delivers equal parts gossip, critical analysis, and satire—along with a thoughtful look at problems of credibility, source ethics, and what really matters to fans.

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Transcript

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[Brady Quinn]

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[LaVar Arrington]

He needs help, man.

[Brady Quinn]

I don't know why, you know, I'm trying to get you out of retirement.

[LaVar Arrington]

What do you mean he needs, he needs your assistance, he needs prayers, he needs all those things. Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

So for those of you like a little behind the scenes here, Brady and I have been on like a two week campaign to be a really bad influence on Lavar.

[LaVar Arrington]

Horrible.

[Brady Quinn]

And we're trying everything. We are trying everything.

[LaVar Arrington]

It's ridiculous.

[Brady Quinn]

And nothing has worked. Nothing is, has taken two yet. So that could work.

[LaVar Arrington]

Potentially that could work.

[Brady Quinn]

But we are trying, which is probably. And by the way, you can check us out on YouTube. I want to, want to be clear on that. Two Pros FSR on YouTube. You can watch us right now. You can see us waxing poetically here on this three hour journey as we take you all the way up until Noon Eastern Time, 9 o' clock Pacific. Guys, we've got the very latest on the saga that continues involving and I don't know, I don't know if you're familiar with this. Diana Rossini and Mike Rabel. Yeah, I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with that story, but here is the latest. Diana Rossini now under investigation by the Athletic. According to Mike Reese of espn, Mike Vrabel will now not take part in the pre draft press conference. And the whole little story that they gave everybody about friends were there, it was an innocent encounter, et cetera, et cetera that lasted for about 30 seconds before people realize, eh, this doesn't add up. And so now after the Athletic had Diana Rossini's back publicly and supported her publicly, now she will not be reporting. Her contract is also up this summer. So there's some speculation that maybe she's done reporting for them for good. And now Mike Rabel is going to go ahead and step away, which is probably the right move considering.

[LaVar Arrington]

What do you mean step away?

[Brady Quinn]

Well, he's not going to be a part of the.

[LaVar Arrington]

Be very clear on that step away

[Brady Quinn]

pre draft press conference.

[LaVar Arrington]

He's not going to be a part Diana Rossini. Step away is away.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

Period.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

Yeah, not, not Mike. Mike Vrabel.

[Brady Quinn]

Vrabel is going to not be a part of the pre draft, pre draft press conference. And anybody there. And look, he's not like anybody's going to ask, hey, what do you guys think about the, the linebacker depth in this draft? No, they're going to want to know what happened on the rooftop in Sedona. That's what they're going to want to know. So probably a smart move for Mike Vrabel, but the story that we were told and fed initially and he.

[LaVar Arrington]

The.

[Brady Quinn]

The interview fart in church and here we are.

[LaVar Arrington]

But just be clear that the interview that you're speaking of has already come and gone. Right. Like the, the story blew up and there's supposed to be an interview, a pre draft interview where Mike Vrabel maybe talk and highlights what it is that they're thinking about going into the draft. So you're talking about a scenario where if, if it was as open shut as the coach initially made it sound, there's no problem with you being in front of the cameras. And I would rather the media hear me and see me say there's nothing there. Can we talk about the pre draft versus not doing the interview at all? And, and that to me, I feel like that creates more, more conversation behind everything that's being thrown out there. Then to me, I mean it's going to happen either way. But don't change what you're doing is what I would say.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, let me just ask you this. Does this work in today's society? Because I tend to lean. No. If something like this happens, I feel like you gotta get out in front of it. You have to do more than just say it's laughable because it seems like there's too much smoke there. And pushing off a meeting with the media where you know you're gonna be asked about it. And it only allows there to be more time where what was the.

[LaVar Arrington]

Is.

[Jonas Knox]

I don't know if it's the athletic or the New York Times. They're now hiring an investigator to look into it further.

[LaVar Arrington]

It's the athletic, but the athletes, I

[Jonas Knox]

think they're owned by.

[LaVar Arrington]

They are owned by the times. Yeah. So go so.

[Jonas Knox]

But the point is it only allows for there to be more time for the story to get legs, drum up more of whatever was going on, dig deeper into all of this. And so to think that it's not going to come up again, you're going to be able to avoid it. It's impossible. Not, not in today's news cycle. And I think you talked to most PR firms and people who give advice on this, they'd say to get out ahead of it. Like, you're allowing other people now to control the narrative with speculation and more photos and more videos and everything else that comes from this. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've been sent videos of Diana Rossini basically talking poorly about her husband, which leads to worth, you know, worth speculation. And the way she'll sound at times makes it seem like, yeah, maybe this is someone who was looking for something else, but. But not even to go down that road. Right. Because, like, the manner in which they're handling it, I think you knew that New York Times or the Athletic, whoever you want to point to, was going to do something, but with the Patriot side of this, it's like, this isn't just going to go away. And so at some point you have to stand up, you got to talk about it, and you're gonna have to make a statement about it in order to move past. And maybe you do, maybe you don't. You know, maybe it's always something that kind of hangs around, but that's the world we live in now. I just, I think kicking the can down the road doesn' anymore.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, I, I don't know how at some point he's going to be asked about it, especially with that media and the way that this works. And just in general, I don't know how you avoid this. It seems unavoidable. And the longer that it goes on, I would agree, the more that I think it's a bad look because people are just. It's going to build and build and build and build and build, and then finally they're going to get their opportunity and there's going to be one question and two questions. He already gets frustrated and flustered with the media to begin with. He's already a little bit of a red ass and a smart ass. And I just don't think there's any way around having to talk about this. At some point.

[LaVar Arrington]

Here's what has to happen. And I think within the investigation, what's being put out there is that Rossini has to clear up with the Athletic the six other people that were there or supposedly there. And that could be the piece of information that kind of puts the story to bid or makes the story that much more real. Was that Cap. Were they. Were. Were there really six friends there? And if they were there, who are these six friends? Like, I think the burden of, of her Being able to prove that this was literally a, a friends, a friend's deal where, listen, he's no more than a friend. And we became friends, however they became friends. They're all a friend group and she's a part of it and they were there and that's what took place. If that's what's the story everybody is using, including the spouses, then the story goes away and the damage is done. But at least it's minimized for both Rossini and for Vrabel. I think the bigger point that has to be thrown out there, though, is that we are now in a moment of time where we just had a big situation take place at FS1, at Fox. And what took place there now, not too much further out from that, you have another situation along the same type of lines that now surfaces as well. So the, the conversation is ultimately going to be the integrity of sources and the sources that are connected to the, the publication. So the athletic had to do this. The athletic couldn't just say, we're going to stand on the fact that it's out of context. The pictures are the pictures we support. Diane Racine. You couldn't do that because now what's going to come into question is any type of inside information that comes, comes out. And if that information comes from, let's just say, for the sake of saying, because of the conversation that comes from a woman, it's going to immediately be questioned. What is the relationship of this woman with that coach? And what is the, the standard and, and what is the, the, the credibility of the publication it's coming from. Are you the New York Times or are you, you know, who did spin. Right. Like, it's kind of like right now, journalistic integrity of, of outlets is probably going to find themselves in question because of something like this in specific. No way around it.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. I think that the more that whatever, whatever they thought the initial statement was going to get them backfired to a degree that I don't think anybody saw coming because then it dug up and brought up all of these old stories. You mentioned the comments about her husband, which, look, their relationship, whatever, that's, that's their business. But, you know, who cares if she's, you know, they're doing whatever they're doing on the side, then, then, then have fun and, and do what you got to do.

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[Brady Quinn]

It is the credibility aspect of it. It's the credibility portion of it that I think people look at because they start to think about, well, you know, she did have a Lot of stories of the Titans. Like, there was a lot of news that seemingly broke that she was a part of the A.J. brown trade and rumors that were out there. All things that I think now the Athletics looking at going, oh, wow. Wait a second.

[LaVar Arrington]

Oh, wow.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, okay.

[LaVar Arrington]

But. Oh, but let me.

[Jonas Knox]

Let me play devil's advocate without getting in too much trouble here. I mean, do we want to know how all these insiders get all their information all the time? Like, depends on who. There's a double standard in different ways, in the sense that, you know, how some of the guys do it versus maybe how people think that maybe a woman might. Might do it. Whatever the case may be, if you are deemed as an insider, do people, like. They're born into the scoop? That's kind of part of your job, right? Yeah. So I'm not trying to make. Jonas. I know you're smiling, you're smirking. I'm not trying to make a case of saying anything. I'm just saying from a professional standpoint, say something. I feel like people don't want to know how the meat's made. Like Jonas does. Like some people don't want to know how the sausage is made.

[LaVar Arrington]

Oh, God. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, I think we know now.

[LaVar Arrington]

We know what happens to the sausage. We don't want to know how it's made. We still don't want to know how it's made. We just know what happens to it. It's just.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, and. And look, there's. There's other names that have been brought up, you know, other reporters that have been, you know, called in, called into question about, you know, how they get, you know, certain stories and whatnot, that all of a sudden they're catching. Catching strings.

[LaVar Arrington]

Josina's name came up. What? Justina Anderson's name came up. There's a Brit McHenry. Her name came up. Like, what's crazy is. Is that they're all D.C. people. I've been hearing this for years. Like, this goes back to when I was. And now.

[Jonas Knox]

You were deep into it. You were deep into it.

[LaVar Arrington]

Hold on now. Hold on now.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm just. I'm just saying.

[LaVar Arrington]

Don't put me deep into it. I wasn't.

[Jonas Knox]

I. I can't.

[LaVar Arrington]

I'm sorry.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm sorry.

[LaVar Arrington]

I. I mean, my integrity in that realm is at least okay. You.

[Jonas Knox]

You were.

[LaVar Arrington]

You had your.

[Jonas Knox]

You had your hands full with that. Those sorts of situations in D.C. not my hands.

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[LaVar Arrington]

I was a spectator. I was a Spectator of all of the gossip. Because I was in media, in D.C. that's all. Yeah, there's more, too. There are more? Oh, yeah. Oh, it goes. It goes across. Across lines, categorical lines. Like, it goes into cheerleading. It goes into. To media sales. It goes. It go. It. It was one big thing in D.C. it's all.

[Brady Quinn]

I did get a kid.

[LaVar Arrington]

That's what I'll leave it at.

[Brady Quinn]

You saw, there were some people over the weekend. I saw some stuff out there that, you know, we just don't feel like, you know, this is really any of our business to discuss. And, you know, we don't. We don't feel like this whole thing kind of grosses. You're. You're friends with Rossini. Just stop, okay? You would. If this was somebody else, you'd get in the mud, too. All right? If it was somebody else and. And the story was dirty, you would have gotten involved, too. It's just like, this is calling in to question a lot of people's credibility with the actions and the way that it's being covered by people.

[LaVar Arrington]

Does this. Fellas, does this damage insider reporting? Like, do you want. Like, are people going to be like, look at the cost of it being transactional? I don't care. Like, I'll get the information when I get it. How important is it to be able to say, I scooped you? Like, I knew they were going to trade A.J. brown last week. They traded A.J. brown today, and the report is coming out today. How important is that transaction to media? To what. What takes place? How. How important is it? I think that has to be the question, because ultimately, this is a category that was created for the sake of being able to say, like, we scooped somebody. News is very different and very difficult at this point in time, at this juncture, because technology has given athletes the opportunity to break news. So there's no real need to be a. A person that is a breaking news reporter. All you got to do is have your feed on. On, like, have your notifications on. AJ Brown says he wants out of Philadelphia. You don't have to get that from an interview. Diana Rossini says reports from the Athletic. A.J. brown wants to get a trade. No, it's going to come from somebody's social media.

[Jonas Knox]

You do for coaches, though. You know, you do for their organization.

[LaVar Arrington]

Okay, that's fair. But again, how important is that? Is what I would say. How important they're.

[Jonas Knox]

Ultimately, they're in control, right? Like, if an organization wants to move on from a player, whether the player wants to be there or Not. I think we all know they'll. They'll find ways of doing so. I think they're equally important, like, player empowerment's important now with the platforms that they've got to be able to put people in check. I saw Travis Hunter tweeted at, I believe, Ian Rappaport maybe in regards to a report he made about, you know, what position he's going to play and when he'll be back healthy and everything he's been doing. And, you know, he's. He's asking, like, who told you that? Right, like, so it's. It's out there for everyone. But I do think it's mostly used by front offices, ownership groups and, and obviously head coaches because, you know, it's their way of. And we've seen this before, too, how coaches go about getting the attention of players. Instead of just talking to them directly, they go to the media and they put pressure on players that way. And so it's no different than the front office leaking something out to either put pressure on the player, his agent, or, you know, maybe it's just to kind of see how the fan base receives it, accepts it.

[Brady Quinn]

Who was.

[Jonas Knox]

There's a bunch of different ways of doing it.

[LaVar Arrington]

Who was it that just did the. The report from the front office? Person that was talking about Jale Hurts? What was his name again?

[Brady Quinn]

Jeff? Mlan.

[LaVar Arrington]

Mlan.

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[LaVar Arrington]

Right. That's insider information. You didn't disclose who it was that gave you that information. It was said by what, someone internally that clearly.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, they.

[John Green]

You.

[Brady Quinn]

That they use the front office. It was, you know, implied that they used the front or they used the media to get through to Jaylen Herz?

[LaVar Arrington]

Right. So to me, again, how important is that? But do we know today how accurate that report was? Do we know today what impact that is having on Jalen Hurts or A.J. brown or the Philadelphia Eagles, Nick Sirianni, whoever. Big Dom. Do we know what type of impact is being had with Jalen Hurts's horrible impact on what's going on internally with the. Do we even know how that. That's a true story?

[Brady Quinn]

No, I think that story got dwarfed by Ravel and Rossini playing Marco Polo Inc. I think that's where things come.

[Jonas Knox]

I do think it is interesting, like the point you brought up earlier, Lavar. Some of this hangs around and is surrounded around us, like finding out who else was there. I just.

[LaVar Arrington]

Have we heard anything from them? No, that's the part is like, you

[Jonas Knox]

can't claim you're there with other people if there's no other people ever like, no one's came forward.

[LaVar Arrington]

They put your boy Taylor Lawan and all of them with the knee pad, the knee brace on and all that.

[Brady Quinn]

So I was actually looking at. Do you know why you haven't heard from those other people?

[LaVar Arrington]

Why?

[Brady Quinn]

Because they didn't exist. That's why they weren't there. It's a BS story.

[LaVar Arrington]

Well, again, got caught. And I think that that is why it was brought up and that was why it was brought to the conversation is if it is indeed not proven that there was a group of people there, and if those six people that you're talking about outside of you, which, which I'm assuming makes eight, how many of those six people are male? How many of those six people are female? And, and I gotta be honest, what's the relationship dynamics that's connected to the people that are there? So, so are these husband and wives? Are these boyfriends and girlfriends?

[Brady Quinn]

What are the, what are the, what does the split need to be three male, three female?

[LaVar Arrington]

No. Comfortable? No.

[Jonas Knox]

Because, yeah, I feel like Lavar would be good at, at figuring this out.

[LaVar Arrington]

I just, I just think, well, if it's six and you're eight, that you got to assume that that might equate couples, that could equate couples if they're not careful in what the relationship dynamics are. But if you're talking about, okay, it's a group of coaches or somebody from, you know, the, the media world, if it's different media or different work backgrounds or whatever that aren't connected, I, I, I think there's a lot of scrutiny that has to take place in terms of how you look at who they are to come up with what you deem. If I'm the athletic and I'm doing this investigation, what I deem is appropriate

[Brady Quinn]

now is the pineapple pointing up or down.

[LaVar Arrington]

If it's pointing down, if the top of the pineapple is pointing down, then obviously the glove has fit. And if the glove fits, you cannot equip.

[Brady Quinn]

That's the case. You should get an extension.

[Jonas Knox]

I didn't think anyone's wearing gloves, but dang, Lavar, don't you have a shirt that's got upside down pineapple on it?

[LaVar Arrington]

I had some Penn State shorts. I had some Penn State shorts on upside down. I'm guilty as charged. Hey, it is what it is.

[Brady Quinn]

She was worried of last week.

[LaVar Arrington]

We all have things that we have to fight through, you know.

[Jonas Knox]

Hey, so, so back to my initial question, like if, if do you care with the insider how they get their

[LaVar Arrington]

information again, that's the point. Do we care?

[Jonas Knox]

Do you care? I'm asking you guys, do you care?

[LaVar Arrington]

I don't really care about insider information because until it becomes real, what is it like to be able to say I was the one that scooped it? Like, unless it's like, I hate to do it to him because he's on TV and I love him to death, but unless it's like, something as big as Man Tateo, like, okay, insider scoop says that this.

[Brady Quinn]

There.

[LaVar Arrington]

There's something.

[Jonas Knox]

What does that have to do with.

[Brady Quinn]

Why do you catch a spray?

[LaVar Arrington]

Yeah, well, because I'm just talking about the story.

[Jonas Knox]

That's your linebacker brethren, that is.

[LaVar Arrington]

I don't want to throw him under the disrespectful. I don't want to throw him under the bus. But I'm just saying the problem is everyone. Okay, if you skip that story. Come on now.

[Jonas Knox]

Maybe that's what we're doing here, is everyone's rushing to judgment and we don't have all the facts because then we saw a Netflix show come out. We're like, oh, like you felt badrey, folks. We were trying to tell you you didn't want to listen. We're trying to tell you. We're like, this is a much deeper conversation.

[LaVar Arrington]

So bad for Manta, but the damage had already been done.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, so there'll be a Netflix series out of this thing.

[LaVar Arrington]

I don't think that this is big enough. Unless. Unless Mike Vrabel lost his job. I hate to say it. The reality of it is, is that Rossini is more expendable in this scenario than Mike Vrabel. And people could take it however they want to take it, but the reality of it is is that Diana Rossini will be looking for a job. Might already be looking for a job. Might be damaged goods based on the level of this story. So now what it is that she does, and she does very well, by the way. Diana Rossini is a. Is a very good reporter at what she does. And she does get into that information and is able to dispute, you know, disseminated. She's one of their highest paid employees. And now she's not going to have the ability to be able to do that. And she's considered to be radioactive there. She's going to have to do it on her own. She's going to have to create a podcast and do it on her own. Look at Joy Taylor. She leaned into it and it's working for her, but she's quiet. It's quiet, though. It's quiet. It's not. You don't have the. As big a microphone as. As she had before. A megaphone that she had before.

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[LaVar Arrington]

So I think it's a big story. I think it's Netflix worthy. I think it's big as hell. Peanut butter skin and them big old cans. If Mike Vrabel loses his job over this or gets suspended over this, then. And then now that further goes back into Pandora's box because your owner was at Asian orchids and Orchids of Asia.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

But like getting rubbed out, like getting. Getting them kinks rubbed out and getting like the sword spots rubbed out. And now that's going to come back to light. That's going to be discussed and talked about. There's a whole lot of fallout that comes out if Mike Rabel is hit by this Diana Rossini, unfortunately for her, not so much.

[Brady Quinn]

Super bowl hangover is a real thing.

[LaVar Arrington]

It is.

[Brady Quinn]

Team lose. The super bowl just doesn't seem to go right.

[LaVar Arrington]

Maybe they should have thought about that.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, should have.

[LaVar Arrington]

Diana should have really thought about it because I feel like she had more to lose in this. She had a lot to gain. But I think if this turns out to be what people are saying it is and she can't get another gig because of what she was doing, and that's what it's based off of. She had way more to lose in this scenario than. Than Mike Vrabel did she.

[Jonas Knox]

I do think it's interesting that the athletic came out initially and supported her.

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And now they're investigating it. And maybe it's. Which is interesting because it feels like their reaction to this is more because of public pressure.

[LaVar Arrington]

Then they tried to put it to sleep. Like, put it to bed real quick. Like, nope, we got her. Didn't happen. Moving on. But the fact that it's like, oh, no, we're not done talking about it. It shows you how powerful the public is.

[Brady Quinn]

Like, you mentioned, like, how difficult of a job it is to find six people that don't exist. That's crazy. Talk about reporting. She pulls that off.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, my God.

[LaVar Arrington]

And that's a statue.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, every.

[LaVar Arrington]

I think we alleged. That's alleged.

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There could be during the fall, every year when everyone's voting. I mean, there's. There's a lot of.

[LaVar Arrington]

There's a lot of.

[Jonas Knox]

A lot of names to show we took it.

[LaVar Arrington]

Polls.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm just saying. Damn, it can't be that hard. I think both political parties figure out a way of doing it.

[LaVar Arrington]

Every time we get an election, America is screwed.

[Brady Quinn]

You know what I like about doing the show with you guys? When there's a story that's real muddy, a lot of people are like, ooh, I don't want to get dirty. And we say, grab a snorkel.

[Jonas Knox]

We're going in.

[LaVar Arrington]

We're going in.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

By the way, to the jerko that chimed in on social media that thought we didn't touch it. I'm like, bro, we didn't just touch it. We grabbed it. All right, we did. He fully locked on, and we're letting go.

[LaVar Arrington]

Oh, my gosh. I mean, I studied pictures of Joy like you would not believe, just so I could get a feel for what Jason Whitlock was speaking of when he explained it the way that he did.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, well, how did. Hey, Jonas. How did he explain Diana? How did he describe her?

[Brady Quinn]

Leverington.

[Jonas Knox]

No, no, no. How did he describe Diana if he

[LaVar Arrington]

was peanut butter skin, that peanut butter

[Brady Quinn]

skin and then big old cans.

[Jonas Knox]

But how did he describe Diana?

[LaVar Arrington]

Yeah, you don't know.

[Jonas Knox]

It was suntan. Oh, fake suntan, fake cans.

[Brady Quinn]

I didn't see that one.

[LaVar Arrington]

Whitlock's been on one lately. He's been on. I mean, that. That Matt Barnes one was. That was over the top.

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Hey, dude. Really does look just like Michael Jackson. By the way. I ain't gonna hold him. Jermaine's son looks exactly like Michael Jackson. And that new biopic that's coming out, is that what you call them? Biopic. What are they called? Biopic by biopics. I don't know.

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[Brady Quinn]

It feels good when the story ends with savings. It feels good to geico. It is a Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn in for Dan and the guys coming up a little over 10 minutes from now. It's something we do on our show two Pros and a Cup of Joe. It's called our FSR ir. We're going to have that for you again here about 10 minutes from now on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, we mentioned you can Watch us on YouTube at 2pros FSR right now. You can check us out on YouTube at 2pros Fsr. You can also check us out on the iHeartRadio app. You can stream us wherever you happen to be. Catch us in all of our Fox sports radio shows live 247 in the new and improved iHeartRadio app. Search FOX Sports Radio in the app to stream us live all day every day and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets in the iHeart app so it'll always pop up at the top of your screen. We mentioned this that Mike Frable is not going to be at the pre draft press conference because you know, probably not a great idea but it does bring up the point that it occurred to me oh yeah, the draft's next week. Oh yeah, interesting. Just sort of right around the corner. One of the big events yearly in the world of Sports. They're expecting 700,000 people to show up in Pittsburgh. They're shutting down all the schools. Yet from this far away, it just doesn't feel like. Like it's all that it's cracked up to be in years past.

[Jonas Knox]

Who's the blame for that? I mean, is this a matter of it not being the most exciting off season in general for the NFL? Like that, like free agency wasn't that impactful. The draft class, maybe it's. Some people say it's. It's because Fernando Mendoza's too squeaky clean and it's already known where he's going to go.

[Brady Quinn]

It's him. He's the problem.

[Jonas Knox]

Get a flaw, Mendoza.

[Brady Quinn]

Get a flaw. Get a bad habit. Start drinking. If, like, if somebody wants to slip him an ounce of crystal meth before the draft, do something. Get an edge. Get something. So we have something to talk about. If you're Laramie Tunsil dude, you're not using the gas mask anymore. Give it to him. Let him do it. Sitting there in south beach waiting for the Raiders to pick him, and next thing you know, they pan over and he looks like that guy at the drug lab and true detective with a gas mask on filled with weed. That's what we need. We need something salacious and he's not giving it to us. Dang.

[LaVar Arrington]

You know, I don't know how to. I don't know how to respond to that. But. But I find it interesting that we have not had very many top, top athletes or top pick guys not come. Come under intense scrutiny. Sorry. So I'm like, getting caught in my thoughts. Intense scrutiny for them. I think back to the RG3, Andrew Lucky. Is it RG3 and Andrew Luck that were coming out together. Is that the two?

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[LaVar Arrington]

And how you had two guys, not one. You had two guys that. It was very hard to create a narrative about what you did not like about them. And I think that was when we were hitting a period in time and. And culture where it was becoming a little bit more frowned upon and difficult to just speak your piece, especially if it had to do with a person of color. And. And I think that the approach in that year was because Andrew Luck was the generational talent, but RG3 was the one who won the Heisman and had an amazing year and. And did all of these things. Right. The only thing that you really could lean on going into that. That draft was turning them into arch nemesis or. Or making it a. A versus type of deal like pick your poison. When in reality, I. To be honest, it probably wasn't even close. I think they tried to do that with, with Simpson, you know the guy or not. Is it Ty Simpson? Is that his name? Am I getting it right? Yeah, yeah, I think they tried to create that with the Alabama quarterback here, but in, in an effort of, of raising the, the point that he could be considered just as good, if not better than, than Mendoza coming into this draft was shot down in such ferocity that it kind of killed it, it. And so it's, now it's, it's a matter of if we're, if we're building what the buildup of this draft is based off of. I, I, I think Mendoza, unless you're okay with just fantasizing over it, working out exactly the way it does in the movies, slow start in life in terms of nobody wanted you, you couldn't even walk on to the school that you wanted to go to. You end up going to this school here, it isn't that good. You end up transferring, going to another school, it works out for you end up beating the school that didn't want you and you end up winning the Heisman. It's like the great feel good story in so many different ways. If that's not what they're leaning into, I would, I would ultimately challenge people. What is, what is the storyline that somebody could take and create for this year's draft? What is it?

[Jonas Knox]

Well, no, and that's the interesting thing about this is you do have an incredible story. A quarterback who comes in and in a single year turns around arguably the worst football program in college football history, wins the Heisman, runs the table in arguably the most difficult era to ever do it, and yet there's still no buzz. And he's going to a team that's a storied franchise, or we're assuming he's going to go to the, to the Raiders, which is a storied franchise and obviously needs a ton of help to turn this thing around. So it's kind of crazy to me that there's not more buzz. Maybe just because it's a foregone conclusion. That's part of it. I tend to look at it this way. I don't think it's so much about Mendoza as it is about everything else behind him. You know, we, we might have to wait a little while before we hear Ty Simpson. There's, there's some concern about his lack of experience. You know, you look at some of the top rated guys. Caleb Downs, he's a safety. Jeremiah Love, he's a running Back when you look at teams and how they build the roster, they get excited about tackles, edge rushers, you know, D tackles, cornerbacks, wide receivers, obviously quarterbacks. Not those two position groups. You know, when those are the best overall prospect players you're looking at and they get kind of pushed up, it takes a knock at some of these guys. I mean, Arvell Reese is an incredible talent, but their teams are looking at him as an edge player. He's not a ton of experience as an edge player from Ohio State. You're good, Ruben. Bang. There's concerned about his length of his arm length, and now there's some concerns about, you know, a car accident happened a couple of years ago and left someone.

[Brady Quinn]

Jesus, man.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, well, I mean, they're digging into this stuff. Spencer Fanu, that tackle out of Utah, some might feel like he might be better at guard. So when you start to break down this draft, I don't think it has so much to do with Fernando Mendoza. I think it has to do with the NFL scouts, talent evaluators, not getting as excited because they don't have those tackles, those edge rushers, those, you know, the defensive front, the wide receivers, the cornerbacks, they don't have as great of a class as they've had in the past or next year. When I've talked to you guys about the quarterback class, like that quarterback class, you're going to see five to six quarterbacks taken in the first round. That is my projection for 2027 this year. We might only have one. So I think all those things add up to. They're not being as much buzz around NFL teams, their front offices. And then that kind of lends to the same way about the media where, outside of doing mock drafts, they're not talking about it quite as much. I mean, right now, you know, part of the speculation is, all right, after Mendoza, when is Ty Simpson going to go? How are we going to see some of these tackles, some of these defensive players? But where's Jeremiah Love fit in there as a running back? How high could he go? And. And that's kind of it.

[LaVar Arrington]

Am I. I think if you ask.

[Jonas Knox]

Go ahead.

[LaVar Arrington]

I was going to say, am I horrible for saying if. If Arch Manning or. Let's just go back to, like, if Michael Vick or, you know, was coming out right now, would there be more excitement about what Mike Vick could represent to the Raiders than what we're seeing with Fernando Mendoza? Because for what it's worth, Fernando Mendoza accomplished more than what Mike Vick did in his last year coming out of college. I just don't think I feel like the reason why this, this, this, this draft is struggling to have that type of storyline. Last year's draft struggled too and they had to lean on, on Shador to carry them through two, two days of, of draft coverage.

[Jonas Knox]

People prank calling them, right?

[LaVar Arrington]

Come on, man. From, from, from team, from teams kids by the way from team or from organizational people's kids. I, I just wonder what it leads me down the road to wondering is, is if there's not an anchor for this, for this draft in particular it was the controversy of Shador which as much as that to, to, to do with connecting it to, to prime to Deion Sanders. It's a, it's an easy one to win on and get people to link in and pay attention to this one this year. It says to me that maybe there's not a belief that Mendoza is a generational talent. Maybe Mendoza is not the quarterback that is going to change what's going on in Las Vegas with that team. Maybe they're not as high, maybe people are not as high on Mendoza internally is what needs to be for the hype machine to really get behind him because ultimately if he were that, I think people will be way more excited for a legendary historical franchise to get a guy that's going to turn the fortunes around of what they've been and what they've not been able to to get away from which is winning and not having a franchise quarterback to, to go with their team. That's not, that should be an easy layup of a headline that drives this, this, this draft and it's not. So I, to me, I feel like this is, this could be an indictment on how good they view Mendoza being as a pro quarterback. I mean not even projecting them to start.

[Brady Quinn]

It's the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox. And for Dan and the guys coming up next, it's a little something we do on our show, Two pros and a Cup of Joe. It's our fsri. We are going to report any inj, injuries, issues, ailments from a long sports weekend and that's yours here on Fox Sports Radio.

[LaVar Arrington]

FOX Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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after your sports weekend happens. So it's time to get the FSR IR report.

[Brady Quinn]

Who's got it? Who's got it?

[Jonas Knox]

We had a loaded weekend of soccer games and some lacrosse mixed in for my two oldest girls. And they couldn't have had more opposite experiences.

[LaVar Arrington]

Oh, no.

[Jonas Knox]

My oldest, they won everything. They won their championship in soccer. My youngest, or I should say the younger of the two lost everything, which is like the worst case scenario, obviously, because one's holding the trophy, one's now jealous and upset. So that was its own issue. But I've told you, look, for those who haven't heard our show, I tell Lavar and Jonas all the time, like, I'm in the thick of it as a parent, you know, with my kids in sports. And it's just a struggle and it doesn't help. And I don't yell or say much when the officiating though is God awful. All right? And at one point, and this is yesterday, there were so many bad calls made by this official. I finally just at one point sat back, yelled hallelujah. When he got one right. He looked dead over at me. This is also after he already gave my daughter a yellow card at one point in the game. And he just stared at me and pointed and said, one more. I was like, I just kind of, I just kind of put my hands up. I said, okay, fair enough, fair enough. I mean, well, I'm telling you, I'm gonna get kicked out of a little kid's. It's gonna happen at some point. I now I know why Lavar got in a fight with a guy with an oxygen. Like, I see so much more eye to eye with Lavar in that situation. Situation than I ever have before in my life.

[LaVar Arrington]

Yeah, that's put me a guilt lane, huh?

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No, I'm just saying it's probably gonna be worse, Lavar, like I'm. Who knows, maybe I'm taking on two

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people, beat up a guy in hospice. It was really unfortunate.

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He said to big coaching, what you got your ass out there for? You need oxygen.

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I'll give you your last rights. Breathe.

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Don't worry about me. Breathe. Use that oxygen for what it's needed for. Leave me alone.

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It feels good when the story ends with savings. It feels good to Geico.

[Lily Herman]

Ready for a different take on Formula one? Look no further than no Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underlying, explored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid, the story of the sport's most consequential driver strike, and plenty of other mishaps, scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Alarcon]

I'm Daniel Alarcon and this is my friend. He's much more famous than I am.

[John Green]

I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co host of the podcast the Away End with my old friend Daniel.

[Daniel Alarcon]

On our podcast the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.

[John Green]

Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[LaVar Arrington]

This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.