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Paul Finebaum
That old question.
Dan Patrick
That old question. 8773 DP show email address dp@danpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Paul Feinbaum of the Mothership will join us a little bit later on as well. Notre Dame and the ACC and the Big 12, everybody jabbing one another here. Athletic director at Notre Dame, the commissioner, Big 12 commissioner of the ACC. I'm fine with this. It's content and I don't have a dog in the fight. But it's been interesting to hear people's thoughts on this and not holding back of the dislike of Notre Dame by a lot of media members. So much for being unbiased or impartial with this. You can't let that cloud your judgment here with this. I mean, you, you can, you have to be honest. If you take out the names and just be honest with the situation and then you might have a different opinion of that. The other stuff, Notre Dame thinking they're bigger than everybody else or, you know, all of those things, they're all valid. But the College Football Playoff committee saying there is a provision now that, and this is the version of an automatic qualifier. So Notre Dame got what other conferences, you know, being an automatic qualifier, that if they're in the top 12, then they will be in the college football playoffs next year. Here's something to keep an eye on. And it's been kind of quiet here. The NCAA slow march towards expanding March Madness. Okay? The NCAA president Charlie Baker made it clear this week a decision has to come by this April. So there's a proposal that will take it from 68 to as many as 76 and that would start the following season. I don't have any information on this. I'm following it as you might be. But is there going to be expansion?
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Dan Patrick
How many? I don't know. And when? I don't know. But there will be expansion. And what they're going to do is they're probably going to beef up these so called play in games. First four, and you're going to have more games on Tuesday and Wednesday and then you get into the tournament on Thursday. I don't know why they sort of say you're in the tournament but you're not in the tournament. Just make it. This is the first round. It's okay, you know, you're in the tournament kind of, but you got to win this game and then you get in. Okay, they're playing games. Okay. I think they're going to get rid of the playing games or at least that label and just make it. These are first round games. Yes, Marvin.
Marvin
But if they keep continuing with like the first four, if you win your conference, you do not have to play in that. The first four is for those bubble teams that just barely got into the tournament.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Marvin
Shouldn't have to go and play the first four. Like you're a bubble team. You won the conference tournament, you should be able to play on Thursday and Friday.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I, I feel bad for those teams because you're kind of. It's like you're invited to a party, but you have to stay outside. You know, you get to look in the window and hey, all right, we'll get you a beer. Oh, you want hot dog? Oh, we'll bring it out, but can't come in. Can't come in. Didn't a rod have that quote when I said, if I went to your house, you know, would I be able to find, you know, where would I find your MVP or whatever? He goes, well, I wouldn't let you in. You'd have to stay on the porch.
Paul Finebaum
Yes, he said.
Dan Patrick
And I'm like, oh, okay. Still a little frosty at me. By the way, something really quiet that happened. And that was the Barry Bonds not getting into the hall of Fame, Roger Clemens not getting into the hall of Fame, but Jeff Kent got into the hall of Fame. Barry Bond's teammate. This is, See, this is where it Gets tricky. Jeff Kent and, And his numbers are great. I have no problem with him being a Hall of Famer, okay? No problem. He benefited from Barry Bonds being in the lineup.
Batting behind him or in front of him.
So I'm not saying that, you know, there's any cloud of controversy. Steroids with Jeff Cat, but he does benefit from Barry Bonds being in the lineup. And it's, you know, that. That's where it gets tricky, where you're trying to assess careers individually in a team sport. And I know Alex Rodriguez came out and said, well, hey, if you're not going to have me in, then why do you have Bud Sealy again? He was the commissioner when all the steroid stuff happened. I know for a fact, and I had private conversations with Bud Selig, and he said, dan, there's nothing I can do against the players union. Now, the Baseball Players association, that union is one of the strongest unions, or at least it was with Donald Fear in. In America. And he said, I can't. I can't do anything with the testing. And then he decided to test in the minor leagues. So it's not like he said, I'm turning a blind eye to this. I know for a fact having a conversation with him where he said, there's nothing I can do.
That's why he went to the minor leagues, and he started testing there as almost a preemptive, preemptive strike. But Alex Rodriguez shouldn't be in the hall of Fame. And, and if you say, well, the commissioner shouldn't be in, okay, you don't want to put him in, I don't care. But that doesn't mean a Rod deserves to be in. But I do know for a fact the commissioner said his hands were tied and he couldn't do anything about that in the major leagues. I know that for a fact. But that's why he went to the minor leagues. So a rod trying his campaign trail, the fact that he's in baseball, he should be thankful that Fox hired him to be in baseball, given everything that he did to the sport. Said about the sport and the commissioner and getting suspended.
But, yeah, the. The hall of Fame, you know, it's done with Bonds and Clemens, but Jeff Kent got in. I was hoping Don Mattingly would get in and maybe, maybe one of these days, but Jeff Kent got into the hall of Fame, and this was that veterans committee, I believe. And I think you had to have a maximum or a certain. A minimum number of votes. Might have been 10, maybe. I don't. I don't know the exact number, but Jeff Kent quietly going into the Baseball hall of Fame.
Paul Finebaum
Yeah, Paulie, Quietly is the right word. Jeff Kent was a really good ballplayer for six or seven years. Five All Star appearances. The MVP helps a ton, but he's a.290 hitter.377 home runs in 17 years. He feels like more first ballot, hall of Very good that we talked about, but is this. I'm answering my own question. The byproduct of the steroid era. Adrian Beltray gets in. Jeff Kent gets in. Harold Baines gets in. They have to put some people in.
Dominic Foxworth
Yeah.
Paul Finebaum
And those guys were borderline.
Dan Patrick
But you don't have to put people in. There's no minimum like the, you know, the Pro Football hall of Fame. They have minimums. Baseball. I remember Bruce Suter got in one year. He was the only guy who got in. I like that it's difficult, but I'm glad that I don't vote on anything like this. I mean, I grind over the Heisman. I couldn't imagine, like, this is the. The ultimate. This is your life. The rest of your life, you're a Hall of Fame. That guy's a Hall of Famer. He gets to go to the ceremony each year. Having that in your hands when you're voting on this, now, that's heavy lifting. Yes, Marv.
Marvin
And the thing about the MVP in Major League Baseball is it means less as far as getting into the hall of Fame than any other sport. Don Mattingly, Dale Murphy, Juan Gonzalez. I just named three MVP awards. Two of those guys have two MVP awards and they're not even sniffing the hall of Fame.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. If this is football, you got two MVPs, you're a Hall of Famer. Yeah.
Paul Finebaum
Paul, I don't get not anti Jeff Kent, but Jeff Kent. Five all stars, one MVP. Go back to again, we talked about Steve Garvey, two different teams, 10 all star appearances. 10, 10. 10 of 12 for number one for the MVP one time and top five twice.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Paul Finebaum
And that doesn't make any sense. A clear mvp.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And he wasn't even on the ballot there. And once again, I don't know the intricacies, the. The minutiae involved in this and who's voting and how many are voting and how do you get on that ballot? But yeah, Jeff Kent quietly going into the Baseball hall of Fame. All right, poll question for hour two. Seaton, what are we going to go with?
I got a couple here from Paul, retired athlete you most want to see. Come back and play for a Month, full health, obviously prime condition. His options here are Bo Jackson, Michael Jordan, Dwight Gooden, or Wayne Gretzky.
I'd rather have Wayne just read the countries in the World cup draw.
Dominic Foxworth
Way too soon for that.
Dan Patrick
Come on now. That was a true contest right there. I don't know that we saw the great one there either. Yeah, I. Okay, that. That whole ceremony was drawn out. It was like an hour too long, and I'm falling asleep watching it, like. Okay. And then Wayno gets up there and he's got. Watch the World cup draw. I did watch some of it. That's amazing. Yeah. Yes. My. My future son in law is a big soccer guy. Attaboy, lad. Yeah, well, right now he's the future son in law. I don't know, maybe it doesn't last. I don't know. I did catch him watching the Premier League over the weekend. Sounds like you got a good one there, Dan. Oh, I know. He. He. I walked into a room at my house and I go, what are you doing? He goes, watching soccer. Watching soccer. I go, okay. He goes, you don't want to watch? I go, no, tell me how it ends. But yeah, When Wayo had Curacao. Now, granted, I think if you see Curacao, you're probably going to go kurakawi or something like that, you know, and that's not a given. But I gotta have Wayne being, you know, in a. In a room where we go over all the. These are the names. You're gonna have Wayne.
Paul Finebaum
All of them.
Dan Patrick
Well, he wasn't doing the whole thing. I would just say, hey, here's. Here's a couple of tricky ones. Azerbaijan.
Dominic Foxworth
Can I get Canada?
Paul Finebaum
Get Wayne Gretzky.
Dan Patrick
Canada. Yeah, give him Canada. Somebody throw me a Sweden here. Something nice and easy. Yeah. Sri Lanka. Yeah. Yes.
Paul Finebaum
Paulie Kirasa and I don't know if I've got it right is probably the toughest to pronounce on the fly because it's a very confusing looking word. There's C's where S's should be.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And that's where baseball players are. Don't we have a couple of Curacao greats? That is Andrew Jones from Curacao. Maybe I have to get Mario. The eyes and ears of the program. By the way, Mets fans in the building were sobbing yesterday. Edwin Diaz is going to the Dodgers. That's not fair. Yeah. Anthony and Mario, who sit in the same room. Oh, they were weeping. Grown men. Well, not grown men, but men. And they were weeping. It's not fair that. That this is going to lead to a lockout and then we're going to have a salary cap.
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Dan Patrick
Edwin Diaz joining the Dodgers. Yes. Marvin.
Marvin
Andrew Jones from Curacao.
Dan Patrick
Okay. All right. It comes back to me occasionally. You mean Caraco? Yeah.
Yeah, Paulie.
Paul Finebaum
But Wayne Gretzky, he wasn't going to class at age, you know, high school. He wasn't taking geography classes. He was scoring 98 goals in the junior league. I love that. He doesn't know how to pronounce it.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but you would think somebody would say, hey, guys, let's go through the names here in case anybody's getting, you know, a couple of tricky ones here because. Right, a couple tricky ones here. Hey, no, Wayne. Wayne, a couple tricky ones here. You might want to take a look at these. Hey. Yes. I think it's fair to take a slap shot. Okay. You gotta prepare. Someone's got to prepare.
Thank you, Todd.
Let me see. Murphy in Georgia. Hi, Murph. What's on your mind today?
Caller
How you doing, man?
Dan Patrick
Good morning. Good morning.
Caller
I wanted to know, when did this independent thing start? With Notre Dame. And secondly, what do you get from being in the hall of Fame? Is there any compensation?
Dan Patrick
Well, they do make money at signing events, but it's not like you get a bonus in your contract. Notre Dame has never been in league, I don't think. Paulie, do you have. When they form their independence?
Paul Finebaum
Yeah, Notre Dame started playing football in 1887 and there were some, like, conferences, ish. In the early, before the 20s. But since the 1920s, they've been independent.
Dan Patrick
Any school can become independent if you want. BYU used to be independent.
But you lose the structure, the support that you have, scheduling, financial stuff. You know, Notre Dame is the one school that can do this and has chosen to do this.
You know, but once again, BYU used to be independent. Let me see one more caller in here.
How about Jamie from Virginia Beach? Hi, Jamie.
Caller
Hey, good morning, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I just want to. I just want to go back and what you said earlier in the show about the Notre Dame story not going away.
Rightfully so. It shouldn't go away. Those guys, those guys are in the spot in the top 12. I'm a Michigan guy. I can care less about Notre Dame, but more importantly is how the Alabama situation went away so quickly. I mean, this isn't the Alabama team of 10 years ago, you know, five years ago, where they would barely lose one game a season, and now they're losing three last two seasons, on the verge of missing the playoffs. Twice this year and I don't think the committee was going to allow them to miss it this year regardless.
Dan Patrick
Well, could you imagine Greg Sankey of Alabama got jumped and didn't make it? He'd be screaming too. That's why I said, you know, put it into your conference. And how would you react? How would the Big 12 commissioner react if BYU got jumped by Miami in the rankings and didn't make the College Football Playoff? He'd be shouting from the mountaintops. He would not say, hey, this is what we signed up for. So as much as there is a dislike, a hatred for Notre Dame, put your school in that situation and see how you would react. The other stuff, the other stuff, go at it. I couldn't care less about, you know, we're going to pull out of the ACC or the pettiness or, you know, the ACC was against us. I mean, I side with the ACC because the ACC has to protect. Miami is a full fledged ACC member. Notre Dame is not. And I would be fighting for Miami over Notre Dame. Now. I don't know what was said. I think that's what Pete Babaqua, the athletic director was hinting at. Like what was said in that three hour discussion. From what I'm told and I'm still trying to find that out. What exactly did the ACC say about Notre Dame?
That's what I'm curious about because it feels like that's what Pete Babacco was hinting at, that, you know, the things they said about Notre Dame in that discussion and the fallout from that. All right, we'll take a break. Is Philip Rivers a first ballot hall of Famer? Is he a Hall of Famer? Is he hurting his hall of Fame status by trying to play again? Dominic Foxworth from the mothership will join us next here. Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app.
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See mintmobile.com More phone calls coming up. Our good buddy Ross Tucker just sent out a tweet. The two teams with the best records in the NFL, the Patriots and Broncos, both being underdogs at home to teams with less than 10 wins. This week, Patriots host the Bills, Broncos hosting the Packers. He is the host of the Dominic Foxworth Show, ESPN writer, commentator, former NFL defensive back Dominic Foxworth joining us on the program. We spent a little bit of time, maybe too much time talking about Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers, hall of Famer, a semifinalist for the hall of Fame this year. And then we brought in Matt Ryan as well. So if you had to choose between Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers, hall of Famer, who would you pick?
Dominic Foxworth
It's so hard to get into the Pro Football hall of Fame. I think since it's only like 13 guys like since the 90s that have gotten in since like the early 90s at quarterback that is.
Dan Patrick
Okay, whose career would you want?
Dominic Foxworth
Yeah, that's. You put me on the spot. So Matt Ryan obviously won an mvp, was All Pro. Philip Rivers was probably better longer, but never was an All Pro. But that might be a result of the people in his conference and never won mvp. I gotta be honest, just off, just off the top of my head, I think Philip Rivers, I think of Philip Rivers as a better quarterback, but I also know that the numbers don't really support that. There's a huge difference between the two of them. And also, Matt Ryan's made it to his and lost one. But I think ultimately, I think we respect Philip Rivers career more than we do Matt Ryan. So if you give me one, I think I'd rather have Matt Ryan.
Dan Patrick
Okay. Matt. Matthew.
Dominic Foxworth
Excuse me, I. I'd rather have Philip Rivers.
Dan Patrick
Matthew Stafford, first ballot, hall of Famer.
Dominic Foxworth
Nah, I mean, not first ballot. I think he wins another one this year. Then we're talking first ballot. I think obviously this is a team sport, and as much as it sucks you want the hall of Fame to be an individual award, as great as he's been, like, his team success just came kind of late. So I think one more. He's probably first ballot. But with just one super bowl and like the end of his career really defining his career, I don't think he's first ballot.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but he might be MVP this year.
Dominic Foxworth
Yeah, of course it's hard. You ask me, a guy whose career is still going on, which I guess Philip Rivers career still going on, too. Matt Ryan, if you stop. If you stop. Matt Ryan today, I'd say not first ballot. Excuse me. Matt Stafford, not first ballot. He wins MVP this year, wins another super bowl, then of course, first ballot.
Dan Patrick
How does this work out for Philip Rivers in the Colts?
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Dominic Foxworth
I don't know. Like, as much as he's older than me and as much as I would want older guys, I played against Philip Rivers a bunch in college back when Maryland was in acc and a bunch when I was in Denver and he was in San Diego. So, like, obviously I'm rooting for the older guy to have success, but it's really fast and it's really hard. And his career didn't end because he was tired of playing football. His career ended because he was not producing. So I'm not sure what some time off, some rest is going to do, but I don't imagine that it's going to go all that well. I think they're probably better off when Riley Leonard gets healthy or, I don't know, someone who's actually been playing football. I know he's been coaching, but it's so fast. It's so violent. And we see Aaron Rodgers, who hasn't stopped playing, like, obviously the. The threat of getting hit has changed the way that he plays. I'm assuming that Philip Rivers is a normal human being and he's going to be a little skittish.
Dan Patrick
Okay, explain that to me, that you can see that Rogers, he's different now because he's afraid of getting hit.
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Dominic Foxworth
I mean, and Saying he's afraid of getting hit makes it feel insulting. Like he's a reasonable person and he can't move the way that he can normally move. Like yeah, you're.
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Dominic Foxworth
That willingness to hold on to the ball for a half a second longer and have a 250 pound super athlete jump through your chin is changes. It changes a lot when it hurts a little bit more and when you're not as explosive and also when you don't feel like you're in contention in the way that you once were. So I think I'm not the only one who notices it. Like we all see it. He's more quick to get rid of the ball and the reason why I think he had good numbers last week is because the Ravens can't rush the passer. As soon as you get someone who can rush the passer, you'll see the Aaron Rodgers that we've seen most of this season return.
Dan Patrick
Who's the one quarterback though that above everybody else was going to stay in there and he was going to take the hit.
Dominic Foxworth
Man, I think of like Young Drew Brees as a guy that got hit a bunch and was willing to stay in there. Yeah, he. And again, this goes back to him in San Diego and earlier in his career. I think he later in his career with the shoulder injury or excuse me, elbow injury and the age his offense turned into quick pass stuff. But like that is something that stands out in my mind. Of course, Steve Young was a guy from growing up with watching him and Brady is definitely that guy who was able to do that. He didn't do it nearly as much in Tampa, but was willing to stand in there and take those shots.
Dan Patrick
Dang. I'm always amazed though when we usually see the end result, we don't see that quarterback getting smashed. It's like right before he's going to get hit and then we go, oh, did he complete touchdown. And you know, meanwhile he's getting a spatula and they're, you know, peeling him off the astroturf.
Dominic Foxworth
We don't appreciate how hard those. Even when we point it out, it's impossible. I think and I played football, I don't think that it's ever hurt nearly as bad as that. And they just hop right up. Doesn't matter how big you're like, we see it over time. Cam Newton might be the most impressive looking physical person ever in life. Even eventually his body broke down because you can only take so many of those. They hurt. And I know we've all seen the sports sciences like their car crashes. All of us might have been in accidents of different level. Like just imagine that ten times a week you get into something like that, it's going to catch up to you eventually.
Dan Patrick
The Chiefs and the Dolphins have the same record.
Does that, does that bring it into reality of, you know, we keep going? Yeah, they got 15. As long as you got 15 there and their, their record, same as the Dolphins.
Dominic Foxworth
It's funny because it feels like lazy analysis, but like 15's proven that we should respect him. But yeah, they, they've been the same team for the past two or three years with differing levels of defense and we all thought we were extra smart when we were like, but look, it's going to catch up to him. And it didn't catch up to him. It finally has caught up to him. Like the, the drop passes. Like, of course these guys are professional football players. They're not going to drop a lot of passes and they're going to have penalties. Like these things happened. It just felt like in those situations it always went their way in the past. And then of course, if you're in a close game, that's when the value of a quarterback goes up. So this team survived a lot beating teams that were better than them because of good fortune, good coaching and a great quarterback. And ultimately it caught up to him.
Dan Patrick
Talking to Dominic Foxworth, host of the Dominic Foxworth Show, ESPN writer and contributor, former NFL defensive back who's. Who's a great team this year?
Dominic Foxworth
Yeah, I think I would say the packers and the Rams are the teams that I would look at and say these are super bowl caliber teams. Sometimes teams that don't look like super bowl caliber teams end up winning the Super Bowl. It happens probably a couple times a decade, two, three, four times a decade. That could certainly happen this year. No one in the AFC do I look at and say, oh yeah, they're definitely, I'll shoot them. And I can guarantee they'll be at least in the conference game and it'll be a fluke if they don't make it. I feel like I would say that if the packers or the Rams don't make it out of the nfc, I'd be surprised. It'd be some sort of flukish streak that someone got hot and ripped off a Joe Flacco style run and I would be surprised by it. But everybody else is so flawed in important ways.
Dan Patrick
Does the NFL have a long field goal problem?
Dominic Foxworth
Yeah, it hasn't gotten there yet for me. Like I, I get the point that you're making. But I also feel like, combined with the, the change in the kickoff rules and the aggressiveness on fourth down, I think the incentive to kick the. To kick a long field goal is still not really that overwhelming. Like, I think right now we're kind of in a sweet spot where guys are likely to go for or teams are likely to go for it on fourth down. It feels like even within the five, we've had more teams go for it on fourth down, which is what I want. Like, I love the suspense of a last second field goal, but I like it at the last second. If you're in the red zone in the third quarter, I want you to go. I want you to throw the ball. I want you to play football and not kick.
Dan Patrick
Could you see maybe raising the crossbar at some point? Like, you know, we had to do this with the extra point because it became formulaic. But can you see the NFL doing something that will discourage or maybe, say, encourage you to, you know, go for something instead of trying to kick a field goal?
Dominic Foxworth
I. I could see it happen. And again, I haven't seen the numbers from this season, so. But I don't get the sense that it's become a problem. And I. I think when you score, if you kick a field goal or you score a touchdown, the kickoffs. I know the starting position has moved up for a lot of teams, so it doesn't feel like as good of a proposition to give up three points and then give them the ball on the 35. They get one first down and they're in field goal range again. So, like, I still don't feel like we're there, but if we get there, the NFL will have no problem changing the rule. But I'm not sure that they would move to crossbar. They're smarter than that. I think they would do something outside of making a more obvious change, because that's when we get upset, when it's something we can see and it bothers us. Like, they tweak the rules to the certain extent. That changes the incentive structure. The way that I'm talking about. Maybe they move the kickoff where they move the kickoff up even or back even further so that it even more accentuates the idea that if you score, it better be worth it because you're going to give the other team the ball at midfield. That's worth seven points. That's not worth three.
Dan Patrick
Why don't we have lasers going up the goalpost?
Because, like, I mean, no, it's an. Can be an exact science, right? They choose not to make it an.
Dominic Foxworth
Exact sense because we didn't build. I think the idea that this was going to be a thing that happened. Those uprights, they were so high, no one was kicking over them at any point. I think putting lasers at the top of the uprights that turn on at four field goals and extra points might be something worth doing. That we wouldn't change or use the. The chip that's in the ball. But nobody was kicking it over the uprights before. In the past, that's a new thing.
Dan Patrick
Okay. But now they are. I mean, you could do fun colors there. This is. This. We're in the entertainment business here.
Dominic Foxworth
I mean, you are betraying. The gray hair that you have is like, what. What are we doing? Like, I thought that you're supposed to. You're a future guy. You want referees. Yeah, I would have assumed. So I'm the. I'm the old guy, the curmudgeon that's like, don't put lasers on my field.
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Dominic Foxworth
Let's run the ball 3 yards. Cloud of dust.
Dan Patrick
I added this gray hair. I actually have dark hair. I put this on.
Dominic Foxworth
Yeah, it's beautiful. I like it. I need to get some.
Dan Patrick
You will. It's coming your way. Do you have any thoughts on the college football playoffs?
Dominic Foxworth
Yeah. I mean, it's funny that we're arguing about these teams that I think don't have a chance of getting in. But I think ultimately, while we do focus, we zero in on these, like, these micro issues. The macro issue is that college football is trying to build these new structures on top of a faulty foundation. And as long as we have these conferences where the talent is so, like, the talent differential is so disparate. There's only 12 games, so you're not going to get a good idea of who's actually good and who's actually bad. There's no way to solve this. There's not a playoff bracket big enough, I think, to get an actual champ. Like, we're in the between. We're trying to build a professional league on top of these amateur structures. And until we, like, restructure all of it. And then there are clear conferences where we know who's good and who's bad in the NFL because they all play teams that are all around the same level. We don't really know in college and then even in the playoffs, you're looking at the consistency of kids who are 18 to 24. Like, I can't think of anyone less trustworthy than a man 18 to 24.
Dan Patrick
Good to catch up with you again. Thank you, Dominic.
Dominic Foxworth
No problem, Dan.
Dan Patrick
Thank you. Dominic Foxworth, host of the Dominic Foxworthy Show, ESPN contributor, former NFL defensive back Johnny in Pittsburgh. Hey Johnny, what's on your mind today, guys?
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Thank you, James. I have a Whose career would you rather have? And then a quick follow up on the Notre Dame Rick Neuhausen comments from yesterday. First of all, I would only ask this from your show because of the totality of your wisdom on this show in this panel, but Warren Moon or Jim Kelly and think about the totality of their careers. Secondly, new Heisel comments were awesome. I love that dude and he makes a lot of great points. And one thing I'm going to say is think about the Maui Invitational. Think about all these tournaments. College hoops have to get you excited about the this upcoming season. Football doesn't necessarily need it. But in order to have bowl games instead of like irrelevant matchups, week one, week two, like Toledo or Youngstown State or whatever, no offense, make them, make them bowl games. And you know, Notre Dame is, I, I think all sports fans like a little chaos. And Notre Dame is going to be chaotic going forward for more reasons than one. They are setting a precedent with this nil money and you know, touched on it yesterday, this NAO money, this is only going to get exacerbated the further we go.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And I'm all in favor of putting the bowl games to start the year to ensure that you get quality matchups. Maybe you get a matchup that you're facing somebody that you wouldn't normally face. You get promotional fallout from that. It's going to be in September, the weather will be fine. And it's just like college basketball. They do this every year. Nobody goes, oh, the ACC and the Big Ten are playing. Oh, that's terrible. No, it's not. It's great. Yes.
Marvin
Marvin, I think the big issue is going to be all those bowl games are over Christmas break. So programming ESPN depends on that program.
Dan Patrick
Absolutely.
Marvin
And there's so many people ball Games on the 27th, 28th, 29th, 30th December, when people are off, they're all for the holidays. It's going to be so tough to try to fix that.
Dan Patrick
I realize having been at the mothership, the the importance of college football with those bowl games and you get that entire month that you own and the filler that's there. We got bowl games coming up Friday, I think, so they're already starting and maybe we do know your bowl games on Friday. Yeah, but it's starting already. This is what the mothership and they will fight. They will fight this.
Paul Finebaum
Yes, Polly, there's nothing more disingenuous on social media where people say, I don't watch any of the bowl games. Nobody cares about the bowl games. The ratings are always really good. People watch even their exhibitions.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, they watch. It's. It's filler. We're looking for something. We watch Maxion on Tuesday night.
You have the first bowl game on Friday, Paulie.
Paul Finebaum
Of course I do. I think. I think the first one is Saturday afternoon or noon. The cricket celebration.
Dan Patrick
Oh, that's it. Okay.
Paul Finebaum
It's really good with the bands. South Carolina State Prairie View, A. M.
Dan Patrick
Can they tell us when the bands are going to be on the field?
Paul Finebaum
I'll text you that.
Dan Patrick
We can just tune in for that.
Rob Gronkowski
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Dan Patrick
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Marvin
I was shocked because I always thought the cheat code for the Oscars was a comedian that plays a dramatic role, like Robin Williams or Monique. They won Oscars because they're comics and he did something dramatic. I thought he was a shoe and to be nominated.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I was surprised that Uncut Gems. He didn't get nominated because, I mean, I thought that he was good enough to win. But sometimes when you're in the Best Supporting Actor, that's when you get your opportunity, you know, Because George Clooney will be the best actor category if he gets nominated. Sandman may be Best Supporting Actor. Yes.
Paul Finebaum
I found a couple articles, Variety, other Places, and they said that Best Actor Uncut Gems was a little tougher for Sandler, and exactly what you said. This would be. Best Supporting Actor for J. Kelly. And there's some pretty big names.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. But still.
Paul Finebaum
Benicio Del Toro, that's a hammer.
Dan Patrick
Don't want to mess with him.
Paul Finebaum
Sean Penn's up there.
Dominic Foxworth
Yikes.
Paul Finebaum
Okay, but those guys have probably won before, right? Del Toro.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I think both of them have. Yeah, I think. I think they don't be hoarders. Yeah. And it doesn't mean anything to Sean Penn. Another Academy Award. It doesn't mean anything. No, he doesn't care, man. Remember when he would be fighting the paparazzi when he was dating or married to Madonna? It felt like he got into a fight every other week.
I mean, what did you expect? I mean, they're waiting for you.
She's the most famous woman on the planet at the time, and you're married to her, and you're like, don't take her back There he'd be fighting anybody, everybody. Yes. Mark.
Marvin
Yeah. He calmed down when he married Jenny from Forrest Gump. Kind of cooled out, became a great actor. Won a bunch of Oscars. He's all good.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Marvin
Young Sean Penn. A little wild.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah. Kind of crazy. Who was that that he married?
Paul Finebaum
Robin Wright.
Dan Patrick
Oh, Robin Wright.
Marvin
Greatest villain in movie history.
Dan Patrick
Oh, no. Yeah. Oh. With Forrest Gump.
Marvin
Jenny.
Dan Patrick
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Jenny was not a good person.
Marvin
Awful.
Paul Finebaum
She had some baggage, to be fair, as you could see in the movie. But she strung him along for decades.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Poor guy. Jedi. And then was like, okay, fine. We could do. Yeah now.
Paul Finebaum
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Finebaum
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Dan Patrick
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This is your son.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Force.
Marvin
He got a daddy named Forrest, too. Because it ain't mine.
Dan Patrick
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Paul Finebaum
Great segue by us.
Dan Patrick
Lieutenant Diane.
Let's see. Oh, Wayne Gretzky at the World Cup. We talked about this.
Paul Finebaum
We gotta do it.
Dan Patrick
Okay. Paulie goes. Come on, you gotta do it. I know you're friends with Gretzky. All right, If I was with Wayne, then I could make fun of him about that. And then Paulie goes. Oh, come on. It's 30 seconds. It's. So here's Wayne at the World cup draw, trying to pronounce a couple of countries.
Dominic Foxworth
Okay, we got the winner of Denmark, North Macedonia, Czechia, Republic of Ireland. The winner between Italy, Northern Ireland, Wales, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Caraco. The winner of Iraq, Bolivia and Suriname.
Dan Patrick
Wayne, you're doing a great job. Next book, please. We're all confused up here. There's a few out there as well.
Dominic Foxworth
Okay, I've been practicing this one all morning. The winner between Turkey, Romania, Slovakia and Kosovo.
Dan Patrick
You're doing a great job up there, Wayne. Just keep pushing through, buddy. And he said he was practicing all morning long. I thought it was just a cold hair. Here's the names. How many did he mispronounce? How many open net goals did he miss?
Paul Finebaum
I got him 12 for 15 from the field.
Dan Patrick
Well, for 15.
Marvin
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Todd.
Dominic Foxworth
The fans went nuts when he said Macedonia.
Dan Patrick
Okay, I see what you did there.
Did he call it. Did he say Turkey? He said Turkey. Turkey, I think Turkey.
Paul Finebaum
I think that's right.
Dan Patrick
Ish.
Paul Finebaum
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Dan Patrick
And the Curacao. I get. Okay. You know, Leno was busy scoring, you know, 80 goals a year. He didn't have time to. Books and countries and things like that. Geography. He didn't care about that. Yes, Paulie, I looked it up, and.
Paul Finebaum
Wayne Gretzky did attend high school, but it could have been. That must have been a joke. He's being recruited. He's signed.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, he went. He went to go to school. Nah, he went to school on your team, on your goal.
Paul Finebaum
He schooled you.
Dominic Foxworth
Yeah.
Paul Finebaum
We should actually change the name of Carousel to whatever Wayne Gretzky says it is.
Dan Patrick
He wants to say it's Karako. You're Karako.
Paul Finebaum
He's probably right.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah. You guys are wrong. You're wrong. I'm the great one.
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Episode: Dominique Foxworth Identifies the Most Super Bowl Ready Teams
Date: December 10, 2025
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show (iHeartPodcasts & Dan Patrick Podcast Network)
This episode centers around the Hall of Fame candidacy of NFL quarterbacks Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan, college football’s playoff controversy (with a special focus on Notre Dame), and a lively discussion with guest Dominique Foxworth about the current NFL Super Bowl contenders and the state of the league. The show features signature banter, humor, and debate from Dan and the Danettes, and includes the in-depth perspectives of ESPN’s Dominique Foxworth.
Philip Rivers’ Return & Hall Debate:
Dominique Foxworth's Take:
Insight:
Who’s “Super Bowl Ready?”
Chiefs & Dolphins Parity:
NFL Field Goal & Rule Talk:
Poll question: Which retired athlete would you want to see return for a month in full health? (Bo Jackson, Michael Jordan, Dwight Gooden, Wayne Gretzky) (13:03)
Running joke about Wayne Gretzky’s World Cup draw and mispronouncing “Curacao”, with Dan and Paulie creating gags about poor geography and “Great One” privilege (14:36, 49:32).
Movie sidebar: Adam Sandler’s Oscar snubs discussed, with panel speculating about the dynamics of “serious” comedians and supporting actor categories (46:27).
On QBs and Hall of Fame Legacy
On NFL Rule Changes:
On the College Football Playoff System:
On Notre Dame Disdain:
On MVPs and the Baseball Hall:
On Wayne Gretzky’s World Cup Pronunciations:
This episode is a strong example of The Dan Patrick Show’s mix of sports depth and light-hearted, personality-driven radio, featuring current NFL/CBF debates, Hall of Fame talk, lively listener input, and plenty of laughs for fans of all sports stripes.