HOUR 2 – Draymond Green is deluding himself, Austin Rivers

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2

Episode Title: Draymond Green is deluding himself, Austin Rivers
Date: May 1, 2026
Host: Dan Patrick
Guests: Austin Rivers (NBC Sports analyst)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts / Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

In this lively and humorous episode, Dan Patrick and his crew discuss the ongoing NBA playoffs, with a sharp focus on Draymond Green’s controversial comments about Steve Kerr “hindering” his career. The show features guest analyst Austin Rivers, who provides insights into playoff dynamics, evaluates team futures (notably the Nuggets and Magic), and reacts candidly to Draymond Green’s self-assessment. The episode also features a playful mix of banter, a faux call-in from “Doc Rivers,” and classic anecdotes about podcast departures and sports media personalities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Behind the Scenes: Horse Racing and Podcast Drama

• Kentucky Derby and Horse Racing

  • Dan shares stories about his experiences covering the Preakness and Belmont, recalling how in over his head he felt with niche sports terminology ([03:06]-[06:34]).
  • Anecdotes about a one-eyed Derby horse named Patch to illustrate the quirks and surprise elements in both gambling and horse racing.
  • Paulie offers additional info about Patch’s Derby run ([08:28]).

• Gambling Podcast Shakeup

  • Major drama as “Bad Larry” quits the DP Takes a Gamble podcast mid-show, citing lack of interest and travel constraints.
    • “I don’t want to talk about Taylor Swift’s next boyfriend and bet on that, you know?” (Dan retelling Bad Larry, [07:20])
  • Room left open for new cast members and a possible football-season cameo ([07:36]).

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2. Draymond Green’s Self-Assessment: Delusional or Honest?

• Draymond’s Comments (Clip Played)

  • “As much as [Steve Kerr]'s done for me in basketball, a part of me think he’s hindered me in my career and what I could have become… from 2016 on, I have not had a play in our playbook, not a single play that we run for me in our playbook since 2016.” ([10:21], [36:57])

• Immediate Panel Reactions

  • Dan Patrick: “Draymond thinks he’s a 30 point scorer…if I got Kevin Durant, Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, I’m not running any plays for you. I’m sorry.” ([10:51])
  • Todd Fritz: “There’s no way. I have maybe the most unstoppable offensive force ever in Kevin Durant…wait, KD, you hold on, we’re going to run this pick and roll play for Draymond Green.” ([11:58])
  • Marv & Paulie note Draymond’s real strengths: defense, passing, and fitting into a team whose focus was on stars like Curry, Durant, Thompson ([13:22]-[14:19]).
  • “He’s going to the Hall of Fame because he won championships. Not because you could have averaged 21 a game.” – Dan ([14:30])

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3. NBA Playoff Analysis & Team Futures

A. Notable Playoff Results

• Golden State Warriors: Not in the playoffs.
• Knicks, Timberwolves, Sixers: Standout wins and performance narratives, especially the Knicks’ dominance over the Hawks and potential Sixers-Celtics upset ([14:52]-[16:53]).

B. Austin Rivers Joins (Notable Segments Beginning ~[24:03])

• Worst Losses in Basketball

  • Rivers describes the feeling of being down 40+ in a game:
    • “There’s nothing really to say…It's a very awkward situation to be in.” ([25:31])

• BOSTON vs. PHILLY Series

  • “Boston relies heavily on tough shot making… they take a lot of threes…when Tatum has 22 and Brown has 25 instead of Tatum has 30 and Brown tries to have 30…the rest of the team tries to figure out what they can muster” ([26:32])
  • “They don’t have anybody to guard Jojo [Embiid]…there’s just, you know, Joel Embiid has come out of nowhere and is looking like a shimmer of his healthy self, and they don’t have anybody to deal with him.” ([27:09])

• Credit to Minnesota / Nuggets Collapse

  • Dan: “I’d love to give credit to Minnesota, but we usually don’t do that…that’s an embarrassment for the Nuggets.”
  • Rivers on Nuggets’ future: “They have much more in terms of trade assets…if you have Aaron Gordon, Peyton Watson healthy, it’s a different team…” – but acknowledges disappointment ([28:58]).

• Team Depth vs. Star Power

  • When discussing the Magic vs. Pistons:
    • “The problem with [Detroit’s] effort being your hard hat…in the playoffs, everyone plays hard…now it has to be more than effort.”
    • “[Magic] have depth and playmaking ability…I think Orlando has the edge. This is a bad matchup.” ([34:54])

• Kevin Durant’s Impact on Houston

  • Rivers: “I know it sounds crazy, but [the Rockets are] winning without him. It seemed like when he plays, they’re so reliant on his offensive greatness that guys just sit around and they don’t play like themselves.” ([32:38])

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4. Austin Rivers Reacts to Draymond

Dan asks Rivers directly about Draymond’s claim.

• Rivers:

  • “It’s ridiculous. And you know what’s shocking? Because Draymond has such a basketball…I.Q.…it’s bewildering to me that he even thinks like this…” ([37:51])
  • “Them taking a chance on you, Steve putting you at the forefront of that offense…letting you be the emotional leader…Steve let him be who he was.”
  • “Draymond’s never been an offensive score juggernaut. He’s left open 80% of the game. No one guards him. Because he’s such a high IQ player, he’s able to take that…to be a free screener for Steph, Klay…does all these things defensively… I don’t know what way he was hindered and why they would ever draw up plays for you to score.” ([37:53]-[39:13])
  • “If Draymond was on another team in the NBA, I don’t know what his career would have looked like.” – Rivers ([39:13])
  • “He wouldn’t be a Hall of Famer.” – Dan Patrick ([39:15])
  • On Steve Kerr: “Think about this. The second option, the third option, the fourth option, when you talk about the leader of the team, he’s been the number one option. To allow that and let that be…you have to give Steve credit for that. And it’s worked. They got four rings out of it. So it’s just weird.” – Rivers ([40:16]-[41:22])

• Comparison with Robert Horry

  • “Robert Horry was a guy who affected the game by putting the ball in the basket and hit big shots. He would have a legitimate gripe over Draymond.” – Dan + Austin ([40:03]-[40:15])

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5. Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Horse Racing Outsider Status:
  • “There are certain sports where, you know, who knows that sport and who’s just coming in. And I was one of those guys just coming in…” – Dan ([03:56])
• On Draymond’s Podcast Critique:
  • “Draymond thinks he’s a 30 point scorer…if I got Durant, Steph Curry, and Klay Thompson, I’m not running any plays for you. I could make the case Draymond hindered Steve Kerr’s career.” – Dan ([10:51])
• Austin Rivers on Draymond:
  • “It’s utter ridiculous…to hear he was hindered, especially. Draymond’s never been an offensive score juggernaut…teams would have loved it if you were shooting!” ([37:52])
• On Steph Curry’s Impact:
  • “He’s more dangerous without the ball. I hate chasing him. Draymond sets illegal screens…but when guarding him on the ball, I was okay.” – Rivers ([41:22])
• Laughter and Playful Bits:
  • A running gag with Todd Fritz impersonating Doc Rivers calling in to congratulate his “son” Austin ([31:13]). The bit receives laughs from all.
• On Team Dynamics:
  • “If Draymond was on another team… I don’t know what his career would have looked like. He wouldn’t be a Hall of Famer.” ([39:13], [39:15])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Description | Timestamp | |----------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------|-------------------| | Kentucky Derby/Horse Racing | Dan’s media stories and Patch the one-eyed horse. | 03:06 – 08:46 | | Gambling Podcast Drama | Bad Larry quits, DP Takes a Gamble. | 06:34 – 07:56 | | Draymond Green Soundbite | Draymond blames Steve Kerr for holding him back. | 10:21, 36:57 | | Panel Immediate Reactions | Crew reacts to Draymond’s claims. | 10:51 – 14:52 | | NBA Playoff Update | Knicks, Timberwolves, Sixers, Celtics. | 14:52 – 18:12 | | Austin Rivers Interview Begins | Rivers breaks down playoff blowouts. | 24:03 | | Rivers on Celtics/Sixers | Analyzing Boston’s failure to adjust for Embiid. | 26:32 – 28:10 | | Nuggets/Minnesota Analysis | Rivers on Denver’s collapse and Jokic’s future. | 28:58 – 31:04 | | “Doc Rivers” Call (Impression) | Todd Fritz pranks Austin with faux Doc call. | 31:10 | | Rivers on Draymond Green Claim | Direct, honest reaction to Draymond’s remarks. | 36:57 – 41:22 | | Rivers on guarding Steph Curry | “He’s more dangerous without the ball.” | 41:22 – 42:25 | | Todd Fritz’s Best Buy Story | Lighter moment: phone embarrassment anecdote. | 47:18 – 48:03 | | Van Earl Wright Call-In | Nostalgic chat with sports media personality. | 49:09 – 50:26 |

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Tone and Style

The episode retains Dan Patrick’s trademark blend of insider sports knowledge, self-aware humor, and a laid-back friendly dynamic among the cast and guests. Playful teasing (especially around Draymond’s perceived self-delusion), sharp analysis (Rivers’ breakdowns), and running bits give the show a consistently light, engaging energy.

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Conclusion

A can’t-miss episode for NBA fans, especially those interested in the psychology of team sports, legacy-building narratives, and the interplay between self-perception and role acceptance at the highest professional level.
Austin Rivers delivers expert analysis while the Danettes ensure the mood remains witty and irreverent. Draymond Green’s comments provide a springboard for sincere, sometimes biting discussion about basketball roles, stardom, and gratitude in elite team sports.

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio, Hour two on this meat Friday. Everybody's here. The rec tech grills are fired up. And so are we. Dylan doing double duty here, sitting in the back row with Fritzi and also trying to monitor the rec tech grills. The beauty of it is you can have it on your app and you can change the temperature if you need to set it and forget it, Dan. So there's chimichura, chimichurri, wagyu, ribeye tacos, pork carnitas tacos, lobster tostados and. And spicy Miller lighter ritas. So a margarita with Miller Light. That's it. All of the meat provided by Heartland Steak Co. Go to the website there. Got great deals for you taste the Heartland difference. We'll pick our Kentucky Derby winner coming up. We know absolutely nothing about horse racing. Nothing. Now, I used to cover the Preakness and the Belmont. I think three or four years in a row that I would go to those races. When I was working in New York at cnn when I was a reporter, I'd go to those. And of course, you're going in there. And there are certain sports where, you know, who knows that sport and who's just coming in. And I was one of those guys just coming in because I, you know, terminology, you got to make sure you get everything right. You're just. I remember talking to the legendary trainer Woody Stevens. Oh, I think that I'm, I'm doing well. You know, I'm kind of holding, holding my own with him. Horse racing, lexicon, language, we get done. And a PR person for the New York Racing association came up and he goes, hey, next time you made a couple mistakes here, you know, referring to like the Big A, Aqueduct. And, And I was, I was saying that, like, oh, man, you know, out there, the Big A. Well, Woody Stevens wasn't out at the Big A, like, just. I was in over my head, and then I realized, you know what? Just talk about what you know and then let people tell you what you need to know instead of me trying to act like, oh, yeah, you know, he comes out of the four hole. Then I find out that there was a, a horse who was blind in one eye. Okay, and, and his name was Patch. So they had a horse who ran in the derby. And this was brought up on the gambling podcast yesterday. Sammy P. Who joined us. Oh, by the way, controversy on the gambling podcast yesterday because Bad Larry quit. So it's Shay and Irving. It's Dylan, Big day. Ray produces it. Sammy P. Came in. He's a professional gambler. And we have Bad Larry. Well, Bad Larry. Well, this is how it sounded yesterday on DP Takes a Gamble. Bad Larry quit. Why don't you take my place, Ray? Oh, hold on, hold on. Pump the brakes there. Wait, did you just. Did you just quit? I offered it to Ray last week.

[Dylan]

What?

[Todd Fritz]

This is news to me.

[Dan Patrick]

I'll take it. Sammy, take my spot, please. So Bad Larry retiring. Please take it the rest of the way now. He's better than us, Danny. Wow. You think it was fun? Wow. There's my boys right there. Okay, well, why don't we just. Larry, I'm sorry we were a burden to you, brother.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

If you want us at our football Larry, then you have to have us at our Palantir off season. Jack, we'll chat in a little bit. Why don't we just hang up on Larry? Why don't we just say goodbye? That would be great. Okay, that's it. Larry's done. That was it. After 300 episodes, Bad Larry bells out. Yesterday he did the I'm. You don't fire me. I quit.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes,

[Dan Patrick]

I did call him later, and I said, what's going on? He goes, I, I, I'm just. I, I can't do it. You know, I, I, I can do football, but, you know, I don't want to talk about Taylor Swift's next boyfriend and bet on that, you know?

[Dylan]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

And I said, okay, because I'm just busy, you know, traveling, and I'm not there in studio. I said, okay, all right. I said, all right, you, you're done. We're going to treat you as if you're done. And then if you want to join us during football season, at any point, you can come in for a little cameo. And he goes, that'd be great. So he did quit yesterday. Yes. Still.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

And that was not rehearsed. That Was everyone's first time hearing Larry quit? Yes. Because it's a big man. I didn't realize. I'm like, oh, come on. I didn't know that he was planning, you know, this palace coup the previous week where he told Big Ray the big Ray, big day Ray the producer. And so we'll see. We'll see if we can get somebody to come in and sit in the seat where Larry should have been. Yes, Dill. There's an empty chair waiting for someone. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, Paul.

[Paulie]

And that horse you mentioned, Patch.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

That was the 2018 Kentucky Derby. A one eyed horse. He had an eye, both eyes for a long time, but then he had an illness and had an eye removed in 2016. He was 30 to 1 to win the 18 race and he finished 14th with one eye.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, the problem is those who bet him didn't realize that his good eye was his outside on his right eye. He was just seeing the grandstand and no other horses. He thinks he's doing really well and if he had been in on the rail, he would have seen all the horses and that would have helped him kind of navigate. So Patch can't see any of the other horses. He thinks he's doing great. Where is everyone? Yeah. It feels like he's Usain Bolt. I'm doing this with one eye. Yes. Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Todd, do we know, I don't know what kind of studies are shown. Do horses just run as fast as they can or do they, Are they really aware of the other horses? Obviously you don't want to step on another horse, but do they really understand that?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't, I, I. How about we just stay in our lane here?

[Todd Fritz]

This is a serious question. Do I understand that? This is a competition and a lot of money's at stake and I got to beat these other horses. I got to get there first.

[Dan Patrick]

Stay in, just, let's just stay in our lane when it comes to this horse racing. They're just waiting to get to the stud fee portion of their career, I guess. Yes. But yes, they do know. And there are horses who have had great rivalries. Affirmed in Alidar felt like, you know, they, they were competing with each other.

[Todd Fritz]

They trash talk in the barn and all that kind of stuff. What'd you call me?

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Todd. So that happened yesterday. That was big news on the gambling podcast. That bad Larry has, has stepped down. Probably not the craziest thing that was said yesterday. Draymond Green has a podcast, the Draymond Green show, and he talked about Steve Kerr's role in his career.

[Todd Fritz]

As much as he's done for me in basketball, a part of me think he's hindered me in my career and what I could have become. Know when KD came, from 2016 on, I have not had a play in our playbook, not a single play that we run for me in our playbook since 2016. But if you're going to take one gripe and not be able to move past it for all the other things, then you're shallow as a person. That says more about you as a person than it does about Steve or whoever else. In that instant, you got to take the good with the bad man.

[Dan Patrick]

So Draymond thinks he's a 30 point scorer, that Steve held him back, that he didn't run plays for him. All I know is if I got Kevin Durant, Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, I'm not running any plays for you. I'm sorry. I could make a case that Draymond hindered Steve Kerr's career, certainly in one playoff series. Like, if, if. If we want to talk about all these things. You know, Draymond is a wonderful player. He was the right player at the right time for the right team. If he played in Atlanta, no one would care. I mean, Robert Ory told us the Rockets never ran a play for him. Big shot Bob, a guy that you would run plays for because he is a knockdown, coldblooded killer at the end of a game. And he said they never ran a play for him. What play are you running for? Draymond. And once again, if I look at my first three options, I'm not getting to my fourth option. Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Marvin, there's no way. I have maybe the most unstoppable offensive force ever in Kevin Durant. Wait, wait, Katie, you hold on. We're going to run this pick and roll play for Draymond Green. Absolutely not. No, you set the offense up. That's what you're great at. Like, he was basically the point guard on that team.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

I don't ever like when people say, oh, Steph Curry is a great point guard. No, no, he's a shooting guard. And Draymond Green was the guy that ran that offense. And you did what you were great at, and Steve Kerr put you in a great position to get paid $300 million and be a Hall of Famer.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, and he will be a Hall of Famer. He was a great defender and he was a point forward. He was their best passer. Well, that's Steve putting you in Your best position to be a point forward, to run the offense to. To get the ball to the scores and be a great defender. So I would argue to the contrary. Steve Kerr understood. Look, Draymond was, I think, two time Big Ten player of the year at Michigan State. I think what he did in the NBA to become a Hall of Famer is a surprise to most people. But understanding your role, too, is key. And Draymond did understand his role. Now, he may not like it that he didn't get plays run for him, but I don't know if I would say to Steve Kerr, you know, you kind of hindered me. You held me back. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

Yeah. If you go back to when Draymond was talking in that clip, 2016 was his best season. Averaged 14 points a game, then went to 10, 7, 8, 7 and so on. But that's when he really hit his stride as a player that frustrated people. No one was scared of his scoring

[Dan Patrick]

now because he could be a dangerous three point shooter, but he wasn't an offensive threat the way. I mean, once again, I've got Durant. Even if I don't have Durant, I have Stephen Clay and chances are I'm not getting to my third option. So. But look, I. I don't know if Draymond. I want to be fair to the context of this. I don't know if he sounds mad other than what could have been. Maybe I could have been an 18 point score per game, maybe something like that. But it feels like he thinks he could have been like a go to guy. Yeah. Paulie.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

You could easily make the case if he's playing for Washington or Atlanta. He's 21 and 10 if he's the focal point at some point in his career. But he'd be missing the playoffs every year.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. He's going to the hall of Fame because he won championships.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Not because you could have averaged 21 a game. Yes. Martin.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. At best, he would have been somebody like Paul Millsap. Oh, and weird. He's not on the tip of our tongues. I'm only saying that because I'm an NBA geek. But most people don't know who Paul Millsap is, even though he had a really good career. That's what Draymond may have ended up being.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, recapping basketball last night, by the way, Golden State is not in the playoffs. The Knicks embarrassed the Hawks and they win the series. The Timberwolves close out the Nuggets 76ers alive, alive and kicking. Now, I don't think the 76ers have eliminated the Celtics in the NBA playoffs. Since 1982, the Celtics have knocked the 76ers out of the playoffs six consecutive meetings. The last time Philly eliminated Boston was 1982.

[Dylan]

Start of the day, Start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day.

[Dan Patrick]

Start of the day. Start of the day. Brought to you by in any America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, download the app if you haven't done so. The Timberwolves knocking out the Nuggets. And boy, that's the walk of shame. If you're Denver, that there is no excuse for that. Give credit to Minnesota. Minnesota matched the bravado and then some of Denver and stood up to Joker and Jamal Murray, and they did so without their top three guards. But you imagine if you're the Knicks and there's a chance the 76ers knocking off the Celtics on Saturday. Wow. You'll be big Philadelphia 76er fans. This is where a team kind of figured it out a little bit. You didn't know if you're having Embiid. Right. People even question if he was actually hurt. Yes, Marv, but here's the thing.

[Todd Fritz]

If you're the Knicks, do you really want to see Tyrese Maxi for maybe seven games?

[Dan Patrick]

I would rather see him than I would Tatum and Brown in a. In a. In a really balanced Celtic lineup.

[Todd Fritz]

Jalen Brunson, those guys had a hard time with CJ McCollum.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Dylan, from like, a viewership standpoint, would you rather see the Knicks play the Sixers or the Celtics? Like the kind of the storyline. I would say the Celtics, you know, I mean, that's a rivalry. Philly, though. Philly, New York. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I like watching Philly because I like Tyrese Maxey and I. And I do have great appreciation for Joel Embiid because he's been through an awful lot and he's still playing. Like, we talk about Anthony Davis being through a lot. He's not playing Joel Embiid. He is always trying to play and he said, when I'm out there, I am playing hard. Yeah. Paulie know if you.

[Paulie]

We criticize load management, but if you look at the 76ers this year, that's all they did. Paul George had less than 440 starts. Embiid had fewer than 40 starts. And Embiid had a policy, no back to backs. And look where he is right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. D. I think it was the first time you guys had him beat on the show and he told the story about, like, killing a lion. Did we ever find out if that was true? I thought that was Manute bowl, too. Maybe they both did. I think Ball might have killed a lion, but I. I think Embiid was having fun with us.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Can you check? I think Manute bowl killed a line.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes, it was Embiid, but he did say it was not true.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. But I thought Manute Mole actually killed a lion. Embiid was joking about that. I gotta believe that lion probably didn't look at Manute Bull and say, there's not enough meat on the bone there. I'm not worried about that guy.

[Paulie]

Like, it's just the skewer.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. All right, we'll get phone calls coming up. It is a meet Friday here and we'll talk some basketball. Coming up, 877 3DP Show. I gotta play this Draymond Green sound for Austin Rivers. See what he thinks of that. We'll take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app Stigatz here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow and I have brought it here to iHeart. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5pm Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugatson company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports, a lot of phone calls. I love you guys show.

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[Dylan]

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[Dan Patrick]

Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow youw Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star wars fans, so we're celebrating May 4th with a brand new week of four fun, thought provoking Star wars related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntauns and wampas on the ice planet Hoth, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith. Rule of 2. Listen to Stuff to Blow youw Mind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We had Joe L. Embiid on a while ago, maybe when he was first going into the NBA and he told us his story about killing a lion. And, and I brought up. And it wasn't true, but I brought up the Minute Bowles story because I remember having Minute bowl on the show. And he talked about killing a lion as well. He made it up as well. So just want to set the record straight for those thinking that these two centers may have killed a lion. Yes, Dylan, that is disappointing. Sorry. Austin Rivers, NBC Sports analyst and tune into the NBA playoffs and NBC Peacock, NBC Sports Network throughout the postseason, including exclusive coverage of the Western Conference finals. Where do you want to start?

[Dylan]

Where do I want to start?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, look like you want to start with Atlanta against the Knicks. 76 are still alive. The Nuggets no showing.

[Dylan]

Well, yeah, we could start with. We can start with. I think the most interesting series I think right now would be Boston, Boston, Philly or. Or Detroit. Perhaps Orlando. Especially me being an Orlando, an Orlando kid. I have to call the games and be biased. But there's a part of me that's cheer team. Very hard. I'd be lying.

[Dan Patrick]

Have you ever been involved in a game like the Atlanta Hawks played last night?

[Dylan]

Yes. Yes. Not that bad.

[Dan Patrick]

Nobody's been that bad.

[Dylan]

Yeah, not, not in the playoff game. In a regular season game.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Dylan]

I remember playing the Kevin Durant Westbrook Thunder. That's when they had Harden and all those guys. And unfortunately I was playing for the New Orleans Hornets at the time, which is no fun ever. And we lost by like 48. And I remember thinking, this is the most humiliating thing. But then I watched last night's game and I felt much better because that happened at a playoff game, which is just egregious.

[Dan Patrick]

What's the locker room like when you lose by 48?

[Dylan]

There's nothing really to say. There's like, I don't know what, you know, Quinn Snyder says at that halftime, you know, because they were down 50 at halftime, 40 at halftime. So, you know, at that point the game's out of reach. You're not going to have a 40 point deficit, be wiped away. So you've lost, the season's over. But you still have two quarters left. It's a very awkward situation to be in, like down 20. There's like a. There's hope. Like, you can you get a. Erase it 20 point quarter. You know what I mean, in a quarter. But 40 is. It's just that happening. Yeah, it's just. There's nothing to say. I. I would love to be a fly on the wall in that locker room. And it has nothing to do with Quinn. You know, I love how people always make the, you know, the loss about the coach, but he's not out there shooting and playing, and he can't force guys to play a certain way. So it's like, I don't. I don't know what you say.

[Dan Patrick]

How did Boston get into this position?

[Dylan]

They rely heavily on tough shot making, and to have a steady diet of that all the time is very difficult. They take a lot of threes. They shoot more threes than just about anybody. They take a lot of jump shots. Their two best players, honestly, their top three scorers on the team, if you're putting Pritchard, are all ISO players. And when they tap into that, it can get dangerous. I think the. Boston's at their best when the ball is popping and that thing is swinging around. And when Tatum has 22 and Brown has 25 instead of Tatum has 30 and Brown tries to have 30, and then the rest of the team tries to figure out what they can muster because they don't have a rhythm. When they're all hooping, that's when they're dangerous. And then late game, you can tap into that ISO because by that time, your team has a rhythm and a feel, and your best players feel good and everyone's feeling good. But when you're just playing this style throughout a game, it's tough. And then also they don't have anybody to guard Jojo. There's just, you know, Joel Embiid has come out of nowhere and is looking like a shimmer of his healthy self, and they don't have anybody to deal with him. And it's. This is a. This is a problem. I mean, this isn't like some thing where Phillies just played well and Boston's just going to go get it done in seven. They have legitimately no one to guard Philly's best player. And that's going to be an issue for game seven unless they just make shots. I mean, they got to make a lot of them, you know, otherwise Philly could win this.

[Dan Patrick]

I'd love to give credit to Minnesota, but we usually don't do that. In a situation like that, we got to blame the team that. That lost. But I have credited what Minnesota did. They don't have their top three guards. I thought that they stood up to Denver, Joker, Murray, but that's an embarrassment for the Nuggets. Like bowing out like this in a game, you know that you're. You're favored to win, you're supposed to win. They don't have their guards and then, you know, show. Yeah, I wonder what the future is, and I know it's overreaction, but Joker's got to be looking at this going, I got one more year than a player option. Is he any closer to a title than Giannis has been in Milwaukee?

[Dylan]

Yes. The only reason I say that is because they have much more in terms of trade assets, like, you have Aaron Gordon, you have Jamal Murray, you have Christian Braun, you have Peyton Watson, you have, you know, a handful of guys that have, you know, trade value. Whereas you look at Milwaukee, they're. They're going. That team is not going to be winning anything anytime soon. So, you know, if you have Aaron Gordon, Peyton Watson healthy, it's a different team. Now, to your argument or to your point? Well, it's like, well, they just lost a team that didn't have, you know, their three best players. Yes. I think Denver should have won this series. After Anthony Edwards goes down, you're supposed to win this. The problem is they're already in a hole three, one. And then they're looking at this like, guys, we have to win one game. We don't have to replay this team. Man, of seven times. It's like you watching March Madness. Anybody can meet anybody in one game, especially if we're talking about pros, you know, so you get a big game from Jada McDaniels and Julius Randall, then some other guys, Terence Shannon, some of these other dudes come in and give you something, then you could beat them. Especially a team that has zero interior defense. And for whatever reason, this is the best we've ever seen. Rudy Gobert, guard, Nicola this. And again, Nikola's bad numbers are my and everybody else's good numbers. So let me just put that out there. He's one of the greatest centers of all time. But this is the. And I hate saying the worst I've ever seen him play, because he still put up good numbers, but this is the most challenged I've ever seen Nikola play. I'm just so used to him having his way with everyone, including Rudy. I've seen him have his way. I've been on the team with Rudy and seen him have his way. I've been on the other team and seen Nicola. I've played Nicola. I've just. I've never seen Rudy have an effect on him like this series. So it starts with Rudy. I got to give him credit.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

But yeah, it is disappointing. I thought Denver was going to come back and I thought they were the team best fit to be able to compete in the west with some of these other teams left.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to Austin Rivers, NBC Sports. Ant. Wait, who's on the phone? Oh, I think.

[Todd Fritz]

I think a special someone. I think Austin's dad just checked in.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. Doc Rivers joining us. Hey, Doc.

[Todd Fritz]

How's it going, son? I'm just so proud of you. I just wanted to let you know, playing it Duke, 10th overall pick by the Hornets in the 2012 draft. 11 year NBA career. The Clippers. You played for me. A father and son.

[Dan Patrick]

How.

[Todd Fritz]

How wonderful is that? That you could play for your dad and I could coach my son. And now NBC and Peacock. I just wanted to call and say I'm just so proud of you.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, thank you, Doc. I appreciate that.

[Dylan]

That was a pretty. Pretty damn good impression. You had me in the first half too.

[Dan Patrick]

Really?

[Dylan]

You and Jamie Foxx stand alone, my friend.

[Dan Patrick]

Have you heard Fritzi's Fritz? He does Kevin Harlan. How about that, Todd?

[Todd Fritz]

The Nuggets are on a 94 run here in the third quarter and Phoenix wants to talk about it. This is the NBA on tnt.

[Dylan]

That's pretty good. And I've never heard anybody imitate Kevin Harlan. So you definitely got that one in the back. That's pretty solid.

[Dan Patrick]

So you got. The Lakers are underdogs against the Rockets now. I don't know what KD status is, but this gets really dangerous if Houston wins like they're supposed to. You Reeves is back but didn't play well. So what do you expect to happen in this series? The rest of it?

[Dylan]

I think the. I think the Lakers can finish it out, you know, again, they got what, one game to win?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

You know, and it's there. Obviously they're without Luca, their best player, but you know, on Houston side, they're confident right now. I don't think the Kevin Durant thing is an issue as long as he doesn't play. And I know it sounds crazy, but they're winning without him. It seemed like when he plays, they're so reliant on his offensive greatness that guys just sit around and they don't play like themselves. Especially Thompson, who's a non shooting guard. So to play with a guy who's heavy ISO, it's really hard for him to help space the floor. He's just kind of stuck out there in the mud. Some of these other dudes feel like they're more unlocked and more free. I think playing without Kevin. Remember this team was one of the most promising up and coming young teams in the NBA. They go get Kevin and then they've kind of been in this murky water similar to what Phoenix was in, similar to what Brooklyn was in, you know what I mean? So it's tough. Kevin's so good, sometimes you just rely on him to beat teams with his ISO. But that's not going to win in the playoffs consistently, especially at his age. Now we're not talking about prime Kevin Durant. So I think without Kevin, they're a better team for now. Just because of where that seemed to be when he played. It didn't seem like it was. I don't know. I'm not going to sit here and say they have problems in the locker room and stuff. I'm not over there. I don't like to speculate. I care about what I see in front of me on the court. Black and white, their playing style is different when he plays. So unless he's going to come back and the ball is going to move again and pop and then he's going to pick his spots to have ISO and pick his, his points to where he wants to do that and play a little bit more without the ball in his hands, then I would say great, come on, come back. You know what I mean? Because he's Kevin Durant. But it seems like when he plays his, his offensive ability sometimes hinders him just because of how good he is. I know it sounds crazy, but that's what we've seen. And then he plays one game, doesn't play another game, plays one game. It's really hard for a team to, to go into the game not knowing what's, what's happening, you know what I mean? Like that. What's our identity tonight? Is Kevin playing or not? Because he's not just some role player. So it's, it's tough. But I have the Lakers finishing it up.

[Dan Patrick]

Have the Magic figured out the Pistons?

[Dylan]

I think the Magic are a better team. I really do. I think, I think Detroit has hung their hat on playing hard and physical all year and that can get you a lot of wins in the regular season. Effort, effort, steals. Wins in the regular season. The problem with that being your hard hat or being something you hang your hat on. Rather is in the playoffs, everyone plays hard, everyone gives their best effort when everyone's diving on the floor and going all out 100. So now it has to be more than effort, you know what I mean? You have to be somebody that can really put the ball in the basket and make plays. They only have a few of those guys that can do that, you know what I mean? So Cade is the best player in the series. He's the best player between the two teams. Everyone knows that. But who's Cade's second best player? You'd say Jalen Durin. Okay, well, Jalen Duran's not a great offensive player. He's more of a defensive player. Does things on both sides of the floor. Who's your third guy? Tobias Harris. After that, who are you reaching for? Yeah, there are a lot of guys who do things well. Jenkins is a good, hard working player, two way guy, converted. Duncan Robinson, very good three point shooter. But you have to create sets for him and get him his own shot. He can't create his own shot. You go to the Magic and run that list. You got Paulo, Ben Caro, he actually has a Robin to his. Batman gives Franz Wagner. All right, Then they have Desmond Bain, 20 point per game scorer. Then you have Anthony Black, another guy who create his own offense. So, you know, you see what I'm saying? When you talk about depth and playmaking ability and shot making ability, I think Orlando has the edge and I think this is a bad matchup. Orlando's not supposed to be an eighth seed. This is a team. Preseason. People have being a 2, 3, 4 seed in the east and due to injuries and them just not playing well because they're a very hot and cold team. They've had an underwhelming season, so now they find themselves as an eighth seed playing the one seed. And everyone's like shocked, but like Orlando's really good, you know what I mean? So we'll see. Tonight's gonna be a bloodbath.

[Dan Patrick]

I'll leave you with this. Draymond Green on his podcast had this to say that his head coach, Steve Kerr.

[Dylan]

Oh, man, I knew this is coming.

[Todd Fritz]

As much as he's done for me in basketball, a part of me think he's hindered me in my career and what I could have become when KD came from 2016 on, I have not had a play in our playbook, not a single play that we run for me in our playbook since 2016. But if you're going to take one gripe and not be able to move past it for all the other things. Then you're shallow as a person. That says more about you as a person than it does about Steve or whoever else. In that instant, you got to take the good with the bad man.

[Dan Patrick]

Can he be right in both cases that he wasn't featured at all? But, I mean, he. How do you feature Draymond Green?

[Dylan]

If I feature him doing what?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know. I'm trying to be fair to the context of this.

[Dylan]

It's ridiculous.

[Dan Patrick]

It's ridiculous.

[Dylan]

It's utter ridiculous. And you know what's shocking? Because Draymond has such a basketball. He has such a high iq. That's what. That's a big part of his game, is how smart of a basketball player he is. So it's. It bewilders me that he even thinks like this, because it's like Draymond, them taking a chance on you and them playing you and Steve putting you at the forefront of that offense, making you be the point forward and kind of the, you know, letting you allow you to have that voice and the freedom to have your, you know, whether it's a spas. You know, spasms or when he loses it or to be the emotional leader of that team. Steve let him be who he was. So to hear he was hindered, especially. Draymond's never been an offensive score juggernaut. He's left open 80% of the game. No one guards him. And because he's such a high IQ player, he's been able to take that and be a free screener for Steph Clay, he's been this enforcer. He does all these things defensively to dominate. I'm. I don't know what way he was hindered and why they would ever draw a plays for you to score. You were never a scorer. In fact, the teams would have loved it if you were shooting. It'd be much better than Stepnot or Clay or Kevin. Not. It's like. It's just ludicrous. I don't. I don't even know where he got this from. If Draymond was on another team in the NBA, I don't know what his career would have looked like.

[Dan Patrick]

He wouldn't be a Hall of Famer.

[Dylan]

No, no. And that's not a slight to Draymond because he is in the hall of Fame. So it's like, take the fact that the guy that helped you get there is the guy you're saying hindered you is. I don't understand the. I don't. I don't get it. And I love Dre. I love his competitive. I love everything about Dre. We got drafted in the same class. I just. He's too smart of a basketball player to genuinely think this. There's no way. He's just too good and too smart of a basketball player.

[Dan Patrick]

Robert Ori was with us a couple of weeks ago. He said that he never had a play run for him. Now, that's one of the great clutch shooters in NBA history. And he said when he was with the Rockets, they never ran a play for him. He would have a legitimate gripe over Draymond.

[Dylan]

Well, because he's offensively more forward. Draymond was a facilitator and a guy that just affects the game in ways half of which don't even show up on the stat sheet. Robert Hori was a guy who fixed the game by putting the ball in the basket.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

And hit big shots. So he has a legitimate, like you said, argument to be like, man, can I get a play call for me? Can I get like a pick and pop? Can I get some type of play, quick action where I can get a 3 off? Draymond is a guy that you would never draw up a play to get a post up because he's not a post up player. He doesn't have post skills to score. And he's got to get a player. You would draw up a play to hit a three or get a shot because he's never been a high shooting percentage, three point shooter score. So I'm confused on what he wants drawn up for him. Maybe he wants a play drawn up for him to make a play because he can do that. He's one of the best point forwards of all time. But I don't know what he meant by that. It just seems so weird because Steve and him. I feel like Steve's really embraced Dre, the whole experience of Draymond and let him be him and be. Even though he's never been the first option. Think about this. The second option, the third option, the fourth option, when you talk about the leader of the team, he's been the number one option to allow that and let that be infestor and grow. You have to give Steve credit for that. And it's worked. They got four rings out of it. So it's just weird. I don't know. That was a weird comment to hear because Draymond's such a high IQ person.

[Dan Patrick]

What's it like to get Switched out to Steph Curry.

[Dylan]

It's not fun, I'll be honest. On an island. On an island, I'm okay. It's like, you know, if he drives by me and hits a layup, then I've done my job, you know, you, when you get ship, you know, switched out to him because I, I, I did most of the guarding on him. I predominantly guarded Stephen, playoff series. He's more, he's more dangerous without the ball. I hate chasing him. Draymond sets of legal screens, but Petruia, Iguodala, Livingston, Festus, Azili, these guys said illegal hard ass screens and that's what was so hard to guard it. When you, when you were guarding them on the ball as a guard, I, I was, I was okay with that, you know, and if he hit me with something, a cool move or he tap on the back and do it again, you know, that's kind of the mindset. You have to, you have to have the do it again mindset. Garden stuff you can't, you can't get. Otherwise your, your spirit will, will dwindle. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Great appearance. Thanks for joining us, Austin. We appreciate it. Good job, my son.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you. You're having a great broadcast career.

[Dylan]

Thanks, dad.

[Todd Fritz]

Very nice. You didn't come on with Dan. Keep up the good work. You got to give me 48 though. You got to give me 48.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Thank you, John.

[Dylan]

Appreciate you.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Austin. NBC Sports analyst 10th overall pick back in 2012. The Hornets. The exclusive coverage of the Western Conference finals on NBC. Peacock, NBC Sports Network. We'll take a break. Back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Paulie]

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque, others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all. Embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

[Dan Patrick]

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on £10.

[Dylan]

I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

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[Dan Patrick]

Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow youw Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star wars fans, so we're celebrating May 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought provoking Star wars related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntauns and wampas on the ice planet Hoth, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith Rule of 2. Listen to Stuff to Blow youw Mind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kind of a landmark moment here on the show. If you're watching on Peacock, we took down the wall in between Dylan and Fritzi, and that wall has been part of the show for a long time because McLovin hated hearing Fritzy hack up a lung. And then Seaton didn't want to take it down either. Dylan gets in the chair, and he's all of a sudden saying, can we tear down this wall? And you said, yes, then. Yeah, no, I'm okay with it. It's open air back here now. I know it is kind of weird, but when Fritzi, you know, it's like twice a year, he has that horrible hacking sound. Just want to make sure you're going to be okay with that. Well, we didn't throw the wall away. It still exists in the back and could be reinstalled if Todd's not on his best behavior. By the way, the gambling podcast yesterday, Bad Larry quit in the middle of the show. And also the Todd cast, if you haven't heard the Todd cast with Todd Fritz, get ready. Here is just a portion where Todd was at Best Buy. Is that right, Todd?

[Todd Fritz]

Yes. I needed a new battery for my laptop.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. So we pick up the story from there.

[Todd Fritz]

One embarrassing moment, though. She came with me to Best Buy, and I needed, like, a new battery for my. For my. My laptop. Yeah. And she has all the passwords and stuff, so she took my phone. I hate when she takes my phone because sometimes I forget what I may have typed in there, what it might have been. And I didn't erase.

[Dan Patrick]

We can guess.

[Todd Fritz]

I didn't erase the search history. And I know there's ways. But whatever it was, I didn't think I was next to that. I'm handing over the phone, and she's right there at the front desk, and she's putting in, like, some kind of password to get, like, $5 off the battery at Best Buy for whatever. Whatever it was. And then just some adult entertainment stuff. Just. She's like, really? And I didn't know what she was talking about because I didn't see what she was looking at. And then I pretty quickly realized, based on her, well, why is that such a big deal? I'm not, like, replacing her with, you

[Dan Patrick]

know, I think it's maybe the setting because you're at Best Buy.

[Todd Fritz]

I think she would have been upset if we were just alone in a hotel somewhere.

[Dan Patrick]

Maybe less so.

[Todd Fritz]

Should I be embarrassed or should. Should a spouse be angry or a fiance or a boyfriend or girlfriend? If the other person.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

If you see on their phone that they were recently watching sexual act is that bad.

[Dan Patrick]

This is the least surprising story of the day to me. By the way, guys, if your hair isn't playing like it did in your 20s, might be time for a real comeback. Ditch the hat. Start neutral today. Make that hat optional. Visit neutral.com Enter the promo code. Dan Patrick, Van Earl in Florida. We're going to have our Kentucky Derby picks coming up at the top of the hour. Van Earl, Van Earl joining us on the program. Van Earl Wright joining us on the program. Mr. Patrick, so glad to have the opportunity to visit with you and talk with you as I roll down the road of life here. During my transition from the south to the North. I just wanted to share an emotion and a feeling that apparently one Draymond Green has an inability to express. And that is gratitude. My gratitude to you for all the years of service. But as we all know, you are the headliner, but the real stars of the show are the Danettes. Thank you. Well, recent interview you conducted with Ernie Johnson, you did mention during your last week of your show at the super bowl in Atlanta, you might want to bring me in to do one more two minute CNN headline sports as a tribute to your outstanding career and I wanted to express my interest in that idea. All right, Earl. I'll take that under advisement. The great Van Earl Wright. Yeah. So Earl is a caddy and he goes to Florida for the winter. So now he's coming up here on the east coast and got a chance to see him a few months back, but he was down in Florida caddying and that's, that's what he's been doing full time job, Vanner. All right.

[Todd Fritz]

Over the Woolwood lip field.

[Dan Patrick]

I remember when he did headline sports and he became a thing. Yeah, he was, you know, headline sports. Nobody even saw us on camera at cnn. And Earl had this way of having fun with the highlights and he created a cult following. All right, top of next hour are Kentucky Derby picks. We have no idea what we're doing, by the way, and also no idea what we're doing on the Kentucky Derby picks as well. Dylan claims he know he's a, a track guy. I can bang it around. All right, final hour in this meet Friday with Fritzi, Dylan, Marv Paulie, yours truly in the backroom, guys. Back after this.

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[Paulie]

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the Enhanced Games. Some call it grotesque, others say it's unlike unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the Games and with the athletes for a full year.

[Dan Patrick]

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on £10.

[Dylan]

I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

[Paulie]

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[Dylan]

Hey, what's good, y'?

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All?

[Dylan]

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[Dan Patrick]

safe to have anywhere.

[Dylan]

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