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Dan Patrick
on this Tuesday Dan and the Danites Dan Patrick Show. We'll talk to the head coach of the freshly minted national champion Michigan Wolverines in a moment. Here we'll talk to Jalen Rose, former fab Fiver. He was at the game. And Reggie Miller will join us as well. Your phone calls always welcome. 877-3DP show operator Tyler sitting by. We'll have a new poll question. Seaton, would you clean up the first hour of the program?
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Seton O'Connor
Yeah, this one's actually a little awkward to Read right now. But that's okay. This one's from Todd Fritz, by the way, sitting to my right. Putting Together a starting 5 of all transfers is smart or dumb. I think that was answered last night because, let's see, 66% of the audience say that it's very smart. Obviously evidence by lesson.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, do I have to start the interview with Dusty May apologizing for Todd? Yes, Paul, it can't be dumb.
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Paulie
He just won the title.
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Seton O'Connor
It's just proof of concept right there. That's how you do it.
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Dan Patrick
Todd had a problem with this this morning. I go, it's recruiting. Whether you're recruiting somebody who's 22 or somebody 18.
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Dusty May
And we're convenient.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
Leaving out that at the top, it says these are polls that might not quite work. Was the headline of those polls.
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Dan Patrick
Let's bring in Rusty May, the Michigan head basketball coach. Good morning, Coach. Congratulations. And I apologize for Fritzi saying that, you know, bringing in all these transfers is dumb. We're proud of what you did. Congratulations.
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Dusty May
No worries, Dan. Thank you for having me on.
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Dan Patrick
How much sleep are we working with?
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Dusty May
About an hour. And I think I closed my eyes about five minutes a little bit ago in between interviews.
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Dan Patrick
What kind of party did we have last night
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Dusty May
as soon as we got back to the hotel? And our staff kind of has a semi tradition where if we have any big moments, we walk back from the arena to the hotel and that's just kind of our Rat Pack entourage moment. And we came to the hotel at what we thought was a small get together with several hundred people. And it felt a little bit like prom, where you're taking pictures and shaking hands and whatnot. But it was great just to see everyone under one roof.
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Dan Patrick
Has it hit you yet?
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Dusty May
No, not at all. I'm not sure that it will.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I'm guessing. Yeah. I don't know. What, like, there's no more games. So is it. Is it just going to hit you out of nowhere and you go, I'm a national champion?
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Dusty May
Well, Dan, I think once we have our roster put together for next year. I've been on calls and zooms already this morning. The transfer reporter transfer portal opened again at 1201 last night, and we have some holes in our roster that we must fill and so credit our staff. They hold me accountable and they've had some stuff set up this morning, so we've been hitting the ground running.
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Dan Patrick
Were you working the transfer portal after winning the championship when you guys are celebrating?
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Dusty May
We actually contemplating doing a Zoom at 1201. How much media we were going to have and how many hours that would take. I think it was about 2 o'. Clock. And I said, are we still doing a zoom? And the staff said, know that, that, that, that ship passed. And so we just waited till this morning.
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Dan Patrick
Take me into halftime. Got a small lead. But what is your message to your team?
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Dusty May
Our message was that things weren't going great. We weren't making shots. Yaxel was frustrated with his play, and we were at four points against a team that is conditioned to win as any team that we faced in the last couple of years. And so we were optimistic that if we found a little bit of offensive rhythm, then, then we could find to at least tie or lose by no less than three the second 20 minutes.
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Dan Patrick
And I brought this up a couple of times yesterday that unless you've shot in a big arena and the depth perception, it's really hard to get acclimated to that. And this was one of the worst shooting percentages for a national title game we've had in a long, long time. How much of a role do you think it played that you're playing in, you know, these cavernous stadiums now?
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Dusty May
Well, we shot the heck out of it on Saturday, so we felt good about preparation. I think it had more to do with, with, with UConn's defense, the physicality game, and just two determined basketball teams that were fighting tooth and nail, just trying to figure out a way to win. And they did a great job of, of controlling the tempo of the game, of forcing us to play at their pace, and they had us in a rock fight.
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Dan Patrick
Any added. I don't know what the word would be that you did it in Indianapolis after, you know, being at Indiana under Bob Knight.
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Dusty May
Well, it's actually probably a little bit more distracting because we're trying to accommodate a lot more people because of proximity. But just as I've said repeatedly, it's just a full circle moment. As a young kid, my mom would bring me up to these clinics at the Final Four, the yes clinics, and these basketball clinics where the college coaches back then were actually working stations and teaching us how to shoot and dribble the ball when we're in elementary school. Things have changed a lot in that regard. And then also in 2000, a group of US managers came up here because we could commute and just we were trying to network and beat any coach to make any connection that we could to find a way to gain a spot in college basketball and literally any spot, volunteer gas. Those are the jobs we Were looking for.
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Dan Patrick
He's Dusty May, Michigan head basketball coach. But you survived Bob Knight and thrived. But you survived. But give me your. Your Bob Knight. We. I mean, I had my moments with him, good and bad. I've been yelled at before by him, but I'm sure you have as well. So your favorite Bob Knight story as a student manager is what? There.
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Dusty May
There are several. Probably my favorite one. Now, I can tell this because coach has passed, God rest his soul. Our job was so menial that his wife Karen wanted to have more grass in their backyard at their house in Ellisville. And Coach Knight refused to cut down any trees. And so coach was on a fishing trip or recruiting trip, I can't remember now. And we got a call from Karen that a couple of us were subpoenaed out to the house, and we had. We had no. No idea what for. And I don't know why this story just came to me. I've never told her before. And we go out to the house, and she had had several trees removed all the way down to the. To the stump or to the ground. And we had to figure out a way to get the sawdust and any. Any residue from those trees out of the yard before Coach Knight came home. So we literally had rakes and we were picking up sawdust with our bare hands. So I wouldn't. Hopefully wouldn't notice that any of his trees have been removed while he was on a. On a hunting trip.
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Dan Patrick
Jay Billis was on last hour, and he said to ask you about the different drinks and food that Coach Knight like. Like Dr. Pepper lemonade?
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Dusty May
No, Dr. Pepper and chocolate milk. This is.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, no, it's even worse.
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Dusty May
Coach Knight was ahead of his time in many regards with analytics, with teaching pedagogy. But this was chocola before chocolate or Yahoo. It had soda taste with a. With a chocolate milk flavor. And it was. It was ingenious.
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Dan Patrick
Take me back to last year, when you're trying to put this team together and you're trying to do it with players all over the country. So give me. Give me the recipe for that philosophy of what you were doing.
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Dusty May
Yeah, well, we take the job at Michigan, and the first day I arrive on campus, there's maybe six. Six or seven guys in the locker room, and almost the entire team had already entered the transfer portal just because of the timing of these. These. And my first call was to Coach Howard to find out who he felt like was worth investing in. As we tried to build our program and continue the legacy of the past teams.
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Dan Patrick
But you don't take it personally, Dusty, that you go in and you realize most of the team is in the transfer portal.
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Dusty May
No, not at all. Not at all. I wanted to get to know those guys. I wanted them to get to know me. And even the players that we identify or guys that we, we would love to keep, we tell them, don't make any rash decisions, just give us some time and let's get on the court together. Let's spend some time, let's go have lunch. And because these college years are. A lot has been said about the portal and all this other stuff that 18 to 23, 18 to 22 are such informative years for any of this that have changed as much as I did at that stage. And so we just want to make sure it's the right fit at the right stage of their careers and their development. And so there's. We never take it personal. And so we decided to try to keep several of them. And finances, we didn't have hardly any money. Finances wouldn't allow us to keep very many. And then luckily, Vlad golden chose to join us from fau. And shortly thereafter we got Danny Wolf because of his family connections to Michigan and his desire to play at the highest level in preparation for the NBA coming from Yale. So we had a couple foundational pieces, a couple returners from the previous Michigan group, the Head Institute. And from there we're able to build out and really set an identity and culture in year one.
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Dan Patrick
Is Michigan a football school or a basketball school?
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Dusty May
It's an everything school, but I have issues saying that football is incredibly important at Michigan. There's 110,000 people that gather on our campus every single Saturday to watch high level football, to celebrate everything that comes with the University of Michigan. And we've piggybacked on that. Our job. Our first game at Michigan, there's probably 3,500 people. And I can't remember the last time we played in front of a crowd that wasn't a sellout. And they didn't bring great energy. So people love the university. They obviously appreciate a certain style of play as far as tenacity and teamwork. And so we're proud to be in a place where they celebrate all sports.
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Dan Patrick
What's the sweatshirt? What's the logo on your sweatshirt?
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Dusty May
It's the throwback Wolverine.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, okay.
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Dusty May
Yeah, it's the. The old school.
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Dan Patrick
Did you get advice from the Fab Five? Did they want to help you with coaching?
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Dusty May
Actually, they've been, they've been very, very helpful. And I I've told them and I've told the media that other than Michael Jordan, in my lifetime, they've changed the culture of our sport for the better more than any other team, group, or individual. And it's. It's. It's a. It's a. A point of. To represent those guys. I was actually on a show with them the other day, and they put me on the spot. They asked me which Fab 5 was my favorite, and I. And being an Indiana guy that always loved the Pacers, I had to go with Jalen.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. He'll be joining us next hour.
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Dusty May
Yeah, that's great. He's a lot for Detroit. He's. He's very. He's very respected in our area.
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Dan Patrick
You know, sacrifice. You know, the voice, it looks like it's gone for a little while, so hopefully you get some time to recon. You sound a little like Tom Izzo. That's a seasoned voice.
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Dusty May
Yeah, that He. He said that he set the standard for all of us young coaches as far as porn pouring into the. To our guys in our sport. And, yeah, it's. My voice doesn't carry well normally, and especially after a game like last night.
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Dan Patrick
Congrats, Dusty. It's a great story, and good luck.
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Dusty May
Thank you, Dan. I appreciate having you on.
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Dan Patrick
That's Dusty May 20 years to become an overnight sensation. This happens a lot. I mean, you start to look like Kurt Signetti had been a great coach. Nobody knew him. Goes to Indiana in his 60s, goes from James Madison. Dusty. Goes from Florida Atlantic. Dan Hurley. Goes from Rhode island to Connecticut. Ben McCollum, Drake to Iowa. By the way, North Carolina came in from what I'm told last minute to gauge the interest of Ben McCollum leading Iowa, leaving Iowa to go to North Carolina. And he said, no, I'm. I'm staying here. And Jay Billis is right, you know, you can't tamper with a player. Why are we allowed to tamper with a coach? That's what happened. All of these guys got jobs. There's nobody who's going, I'm unemployed. We can talk to you. You. They all got tampered with. Now they can say, well, I didn't talk to anybody. My representative did. Yeah, I know. We know by proxy. You were tampered with, because I'm guessing your representative then probably said something to you. Hey, are you interested in the North Carolina job? Yes, Paulie.
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Paulie
So here's an easy fix. This proposed rule for players, possibly your first transfer is on the house. Your second transfer, you sit out of Season, make it the same simultaneously for coaches. Your first leave by choice is on the house. Your second lead by choice, you have to wait a year.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Paulie
Will Wade?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Well, with the player, I do think you should sign a contract. That's all I think they do sign
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Paulie
contracts, but they're a series of one year contract.
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Dan Patrick
But when you transfer, that's where the team that takes you should give some money back to the school you're leaving because this will help the mid majors. Because a mid major is going to lose the. The player who becomes a little bigger, more talented and ready to go to the next level. Help out the mid major if you're going to take them. Because I view mid majors now as junior colleges. Basketball wise, that you're there for two years, maybe somebody notices you. If not, you stay there for three or four years, you get an education and you move on with life. But if you move up, move on, then why not replenish the mid majors and give them something for losing you? Just a thought. Just a thought. All right. Reggie and Jalen Rose in the final hour of the program. Dusty had that, you know, championship voice. Tom Izzo and Doc Rivers, they got that the rest of their lives. I mean that, I mean, Doc Rivers sounds like this.
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Dusty May
You gotta give me four quarters. I told these guys they gotta give me four quarters. We're not gonna get back in this game.
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Paulie
Really good,
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Dan Patrick
Doc going into the hall of Fame.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
Yeah, he is.
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Dan Patrick
I saw it going into the basketball hall of Fame. Yeah. Marv.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
Amari Stoudemire also.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
I thought he was a hall of. Very good guy.
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Dan Patrick
Candace Parker, going into the hall of Fame. Yep. Yeah, no problem with that. Yeah. I was surprised. Amari Stoudemire, he's like, okay, good player at times. Great player. Yes.
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Seton O'Connor
Yeah, I was gonna say he had a moment where he was a great player, a truly great player. He just, just his knees, right?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, he had that micro fracture.
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Seton O'Connor
Yeah. But yeah, he had a moment there though, where he was the future.
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Dan Patrick
And that affected my career too, because I had the micro fracture surgery.
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Seton O'Connor
Right.
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Dan Patrick
Of what could have been.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
Amari Patrick.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Here I'm having micro fracture surgery and I'm not, you know, an athlete, but I, I was, I was trying to just be able to have a healthy knee. When they say, you know what? You got a diseased knee. When I was like 14, they go, it's a diseased knee. And I go, what does that mean? They said, it looks like a dog has chewed on it. So I'm gonna guess that's not very good. And then that's when the Marine said, hey, do you think you can make it without getting surgery? Sure. I don't need surgery. Some silly knee. He goes, yeah, we'll get you a knee brace. I said, all right. And then I think I waited 10 years before I had my first surgery.
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Seton O'Connor
You've made up for it since then.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, but then, yeah, it's true. There were many more following that. And I'm wondering, if I'd gotten knee surgery when I was 14, would that have kept me away from all the other surgeries and now replacement knee? Yes, Todd, but look at you.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
You've limped all the way to the broadcasting hall of fame, so it all
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Dan Patrick
works out well for you. All right, good. Thank you, Todd. Good job getting Dusty May there. Thank you. All right.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
I don't know what to say. I'm just doing my job, dad. That's what I'm supposed to do.
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Dan Patrick
That is true. That is true.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
It was nice of you to acknowledge. That's a good get.
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Dan Patrick
How about we take a break here? Get to a new poll question here. I had to start out with an apology to Dusty May because you basically said what he did was lame. Getting questions that don't quite work. Then don't give him to Seaton. Mission accomplished, Todd. Poll questions that don't quite work.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
That was embarrassing for me in particular.
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Dan Patrick
Show changing, announcement coming up in a half hour. Show changing. And I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna let you guess that. Show change.
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Paulie
I can't make a game.
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Dan Patrick
No, but it's coming up. Show changing, big announcement. Great announcement. All right, let me take a break here. Phone calls, new poll question. All of that coming up after this.
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Caller Adam
Well, hey, first time, long time, Dan. 632-44. Not accusing the DP show of being Michigan haters. I'm not. But this is to kind of all the Michigan haters out there, you know, over the last five years, starting with, you know, the Stallions. All not necessarily great things. But a caller a while ago said that there really hasn't been a great college basketball team. But what about Michigan this year? These guys blew everybody out of the water. Lost to Duke in kind of a meaningless game in D.C. thrown together. Am I wrong that Michigan should get a little bit more credit over the last five years?
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Dan Patrick
Over the last five years, yeah.
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Caller Adam
I mean, it's starting with 20. Let's. Let's go 24. Even before that, there were some good. There were some really good football teams and always were always there in hockey.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I know, but this is about basketball. Last night.
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Caller Adam
Oh, but do. I mean, I kind of think this is one of those historical teams.
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Dan Patrick
Well, I think statistically, yes, I mentioned that. They blow everybody out. They're scoring at least. They scored the second most points in tournament history. I mentioned that. I have no problem with how he built his roster. None whatsoever. So I don't know why you're feeling insecure that the media is hating on Michigan. I mean, we saw greatness. They played great. They won the title. Now, I don't know if history is going to look back the way they did. UNLV or Duke or UCLA and some of these other schools, probably not for this team. I don't think you have any stars on the team. I think the star was probably that coach and how he put all this together. These weren't great players, but they became a great team. Yes.
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Seton O'Connor
There could be a point though to what the college just said. Like, it does kind of feel like if this was a John Calipari Kentucky team right from the beginning of the season, we could be like, this might be one of the greatest teams of all time. I know that's definitely apples and oranges. I get it. But Michigan sort of slowly got their way into a certain amount of coverage and being recognized. But it was even just two weeks ago that we're like, man, this Michigan team deserves a lot of credit for the turnaround under Dusty May. You know, it wasn't really a storyline
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Dan Patrick
all season, but nobody's surprised or should be surprised. Michigan won the national title. From the start of the season, Michigan was considered one of the two or three best teams in the country. Not even like that wasn't a doubt. Michigan proved to be a great team, start to finish. You got to have star power. You got to have a big time coach. That's how we remember you. Like it or not, that's how you get remembered. Oh, that's the team that had. Can anybody name any of the players on Texas Western? Texas Western. The first all black starting five national champion. Can you name anybody? Can't. You might be able to remember the coach, Don Haskins, but this is one of the landmark games in sports history and they beat an all white Kentucky team.
- [30:35]
Caller Adam
Him.
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Dan Patrick
But we don't remember the names. Having those names, whether it's Lou Alcindor or Bill Walton or Christian Laitner, that goes a long way. Right or wrong, more people remember the Fab Five. They didn't win a title. They were famous. So this, it's not meant to be a knock on Michigan. They were a great team and they did it in a unique way. And I applaud Dusty May for how he did it. It's not easy to do that. It's not like he's taking marquee player. Like these are great players. I mean, I got somebody from University, Alabama, Birmingham, a backup center at ucla. Like I'm piecing it all together and I thought that that's tough to make it work. But you did have players who had at least had a sample size there.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
Yes, Marvin, history might remember Michigan if one of those guys becomes an NBA star. Almost like in vain. Carmelo Anthony was super famous in college, but the lore becomes bigger because he became a great NBA player also. So I think once you have a guy that does something at the next level. UConn, the back to back national titles. The general public can't name anybody off of those teams.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
Because they weren't stars and it wasn't. Nobody became an NBA star.
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Dan Patrick
You become great because it's attached to being popular. You know, we remember you. There are a lot of times when you go, oh, you know who was on that team? If, if you won a national championship and we go, who was on that team? Then you can be a great team. You're just not famous. And there's a big difference in that. But Michigan winning, they were, they were no doubt about it. Best team in, in America. A seven game series. They're going to beat anybody one game. They'll beat any. I mean, it didn't matter. They were a great team. And if you look at the production they had and they beat Connecticut at Connecticut's game, that, that, that's truly a great team. We can beat you if we get to 80. We can beat you if we stay in the 60s. Yeah. Paul.
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Paulie
And a lot of people tuned in last night, casual sports fans, and learned their names last night at that Michigan team. No offense, but just like they got there. You mentioned most outstanding player over the past 10 years. Just a few names. Joe Barry II for North Carolina. Dante DiVincento. He's, he had a good career. Kyle Guy of Virginia, Jared Butler of Baylor. Sunogo of UConn. Tristan Newton of UConn. Not household names. Remember Ryan Archidiakino of Villanova? They don't go on to superstar careers and it kind of waters down that team. Doesn't mean they weren't great. Just they don't carry over in pop culture.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Like Chris Jenkins hits the, you know, shot to win a national title. Villanova, great program. Yes.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
Marv, you took the words out of my mouth. Speaking of Villanova, I think that team gets more recognition because of what Jalen Brunson ended up doing in the nbs. Because they say who's on that team. Jalen Brunson was their guy on that national championship team. So I think that helps going forward in history.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. But if you, you feel slighted it, it, it's not with this show or you shouldn't with this show. But I don't think we need to bring in Michigan hockey. You know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna mention football and basketball and I'm gonna hit him over the head with a Michigan hockey. That'll get him last five years. Years. Yeah. I'm like, wait a minute. We're just talking about last night. Aren't we pretty good across country, too? I heard. Yeah. They're usually a good baseball. Baseball school. Football had a little, you know, down here.
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Seton O'Connor
Kept it to basketball and didn't say the last five years. Then you had a good point.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I'm okay with that. Yeah.
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Paulie
Paulie, I aspire to be offended when my team wins a title. That's, like, my goal. I want to be. We didn't get enough credit as we won.
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Dan Patrick
That'd be fantastic.
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Seton O'Connor
Yeah. Like, you only got there because of a bad call by the refs. Doesn't matter.
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Dan Patrick
Sign up.
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Paulie
Sign me up.
- [34:42]
Dan Patrick
I know.
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Seton O'Connor
Don't care.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, but we get so territorial. We. We want our due justice. So you want. You want people to go, okay, you're great. Even though you don't care about those
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Paulie
people after a win.
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Dan Patrick
You don't care about their opinions. Your opinions don't matter. Well, wait a minute. What's your opinion? Man, you guys are great. Well, thank you.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
You.
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Dan Patrick
Yes, Paulie.
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Paulie
I want to be at a parade, cheering my team. Scrolling. Why are they talking about the Cowboys and not my team? That's my goal.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. ESPN song about LeBron Jack.
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Seton O'Connor
We won last night.
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Paulie
Come on, be fantastic.
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Seton O'Connor
It's like one of those things where you. I mean, we're probably getting it today,
- [35:24]
Dan Patrick
but, like, is anybody aware that Michigan won last night?
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Seton O'Connor
Why are we talking about Connecticut? It's like. Like, you get all upset. Why are we talking about the losers and not my team? We won.
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Dan Patrick
Yes, Marvin.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
No, that just gave me a headache because that definitely happens all the time. Like, oh, talk about the team at one. Like, we are.
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Dan Patrick
It's okay. It's okay.
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Seton O'Connor
You're used to being on the other side of that, where you're complaining about no one talking about Yukon winning because
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
no one's talking about it. Someone just raised another banner at stores.
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Dan Patrick
We don't get our respect.
- [35:59]
Wells Fargo Advertiser
No one's talking about Tristan Newton. I was like. Like, it's all right.
- [36:02]
Dan Patrick
I don't care about your respect.
- [36:04]
Wells Fargo Advertiser
It's all right.
- [36:04]
Dan Patrick
I care about winning the title.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
No one talked about Jordan.
- [36:07]
Dan Patrick
I want a parade.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
Like, let's just put up another banner in stores.
- [36:11]
Dan Patrick
Yes. Yes.
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Paulie
Marvin's in a better mood after a loss.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Than some of the Michigan fans.
- [36:17]
Paulie
In all serious, though, when you look at Marvin when he came in today, he's probably thinking himself. We got Danny Hurley, and that will make us a contender every year.
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Dan Patrick
Although I did look at a mock draft last night, and it had Braylon Mullins deep in the first round. And I wonder. I think they had him 30th. Let's see.
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Seton O'Connor
Yeah, he might have second rounded himself last night.
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Dan Patrick
I just wondered about that. If I'm a first rounder, then I'm coming out. But this was like at the very end of the first round.
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Seton O'Connor
Yes, he, he drains a couple of those shots. He's staying firmly that, that 10 to 25 range. You know, he's, he knocks down a couple of big shots last night, and that is very different.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, Paul.
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Paulie
Yeah. But the Thunder have like seven first round draft picks. They'll throw one at Braylon Mullins and have him come off the bench.
- [37:10]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I don't know, but that surprised me that he was like 30th in a mock draft.
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Wells Fargo Advertiser
Yeah, Marv, man, you just don't want to be sitting there at the end of the first round crossing your fingers after you left school early. You could have gone back to UConn. If he's a lot of repick or Even a top 20 pick, be my guest. But it's not set in stone. 30th in a mock draft.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah.
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Seton O'Connor
He had some moments last night, though, even though it wasn't his best game. Braylon Mullins. But he had some moments though, where, like, you know what, the kid's not scared. The shot didn't fall or whatever, but man, he'll go to the hoop or go back outside, whatever. He's not scared.
- [37:46]
Dan Patrick
All right, we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. Busy final hour. Reggie Miller wants to take a victory lap with the women's team at UCLA is alma mater and Jalen Rose fab fiver coming up in about five minutes. Big announcement, really big announcement that affects the show and very, very proud of it. I think it's a. It's something really important for the show. We'll tell you about that when we return.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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Dan Patrick
More phone calls coming up. By the way, we've talked about Michigan, Illinois basketball as well. And if it weren't for a recent NCAA rule change, you wouldn't be getting these players with professional experience from Europe coming Over to the United States. Before 2023, players who played professionally overseas weren't eligible to play in the ncaa. But the governing body loosened its definition of who and what is an amateur in light of nil. So that paved the way for Europeans to come over here and play college basketball and have been professionals in Europe. Let me get this sponsorship out of the way. Then. We got a big announcement here. True green is going to help your lawn look great. You know, when I watch the Masters, you see Augusta, and I go, I'd like to have my lawn look like that. Your results may vary, but official lawn care treatment provider, the PGA Tour, get a golf course quality lawn the easy way. Sign up@trugreen.com and then sit back and relax. Seton O' Connor has a stat of the day for us.
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Seton O'Connor
It's been a minute since I did one of these. I know. I'm a little nervous, I gotta admit. I'm a little nervous about hitting the post here.
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Dan Patrick
Now. You used to do stat of the day.
- [42:36]
Seton O'Connor
I did.
- [42:38]
Dan Patrick
That was your signature. You did stat of the day.
- [42:40]
Seton O'Connor
It was. It was. And it got so successful, it was moved on to other, better hands.
- [42:45]
Dan Patrick
Everybody. Everybody wanted a piece of stat of the day. Okay, which music do you want for your stat of the day?
- [42:52]
Seton O'Connor
For me, there's always only been one stat of the day. That's the justice Stat of the day.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, here we go.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Here comes the sun on the day.
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Seton O'Connor
6,000, 766. Dan. That is the number of days that will have passed between the first day we did the show in the Attic, October 7, 2007, and this Friday, April 10, 2026. That also happens to be my last day on this radio show. Sign of the day.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Sign of the day. Saturday. Here comes the sun.
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Seton O'Connor
Okay, I think I hit the post there. Yeah. No, Y.
- [43:38]
Dan Patrick
You did. You did. Okay.
- [43:40]
Seton O'Connor
That's all I really care about.
- [43:41]
Dan Patrick
Now. Explain here that Friday is your last day on the show.
- [43:47]
Seton O'Connor
Correct.
- [43:47]
Dan Patrick
And it's a good thing.
- [43:48]
Seton O'Connor
It's a great thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't mean that I'm leaving the Dan Patrick show entirely. It means I'm not doing the radio show anymore.
- [43:55]
Dan Patrick
Okay.
- [43:55]
Seton O'Connor
And so I'm gonna leave the radio show to focus on sort of a different side of the business that I'm hoping to grow and build out a little more. And so. So I've kind of been thinking of it as I'm not walking out the door. I'm sort of building a new room on this house. Okay, that makes sense.
- [44:13]
Dan Patrick
Okay. We're Looking at digital content.
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Seton O'Connor
Right, right, right. Yeah. So I'm gonna sort of grow out, sort of more experiential things, maybe hitting more events, going to, you know, say, college football tailgates or other events that maybe because of the radio show, we haven't really had the ability to do because you're. You're sort of. Of anchored or tethered to the radio show every day. Wow. We got to be back in Milford by Monday. We got to do that. So we can't do that because of the radio show. Well, I'm going to start to focus on those opportunities that maybe we're missing a little more and hopefully adding to sort of our social presence and the TV show and a little more focus on that side of things.
- [44:53]
Dan Patrick
And when Seaton started talking to me about digital content, and I didn't understand it, but he said, hey, you know, we got to capitalize it on this. And then he kept bringing up more and more and more, and I said, well, then why don't you do it? Because he. He likes building things. And I thought, okay, this. This can be what you want to do for the next two years with the show, and then after that. And I knew he could be good at it. I just didn't want to lose him without really realizing what I'm gaining from him. And it wasn't fair to me to go, I'm going to keep him here, you know, for the betterment of the show, but I wanted for the betterment of himself, the business, his family. A lot of different things factored into this, but he. He saw things that I didn't see, and he said, let's try this. And so that led us to this. And I'm excited about it because he's excited about it.
- [45:52]
Seton O'Connor
Yeah, I'm super pumped about it. It's not a decision either that I. I make lightly. Yeah. I've been on the radio since 2000, you know, so the last 24 of the last 27 years, I've been on the radio. This has been my whole career. It's been my whole, like, adult life. So it's not a decision that I make lightly, but there's a couple of reasons, a few things there, Dan, like you just said, about sort of looking to the future and where I think I fit best, I'm sort of moving towards that. And, you know, the other thing, too, is that, you know, my son is 16, and, you know, life is taking him in incredible places. He's. He's a remarkable young man, and I want to be there for all of them, all of the things that he's about to experience in life. And you're giving me the opportunity and the freedom to be there for those things, which ultimately, I think when we look back at the few of us that left ESPN to go start this thing together, you know, that was kind of the point, was to have more freedom and the ability to be around our family more. And that's something I've been blessed to be around my family a ton. But his. The next part of his life is. I think it'd be pretty special, and. And being able to be there for that is truly a blessing. So thank you very much for not only believing in me, but also giving me the opportunity to do that.
- [47:12]
Dan Patrick
Okay, last day's on Friday, though.
- [47:15]
Seton O'Connor
Yeah, yeah, last day's Friday.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Okay. All right. I'll wait to cry until Friday. Yeah, do my best here. Yeah, but, you know, it's like McLovin. When McLovin left, he did what was best for his family. And when we started this, these guys helped me do what was best for me and my family. I got to go home because I was missing out on all of these things with four young kids. And that's why when McLovin said to me he had two. Two daughters, and, you know, he was commuting two hours each way, and I just said, you know, if you got another chance to do something, do it. And same thing with Seton. You don't want to miss these things. And all of a sudden you go, damn it. Because it's easy to be selfish. And with what he is taking on, it's a lot on your plate. You know, I'm asking a lot. I want you to be great, but I know you're asking yourself to be or expecting to be great, but it helps the business as well. And Seton will be in places like the draft.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Draft.
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Dan Patrick
You know, it might be in Tahoe. He'll be at the Super Bowl. So he's always going to be around with us. And occasionally being on the air, Dylan's going to sit in his chair for the time being. So, you know, it's ever evolving. It's like Marvin got an opportunity. Seaton's get an opportunity. Dylan gonna get an opportunity. Mario's directing. You know, he used to answer phone calls. You know, that's the beauty of this place. There is a chance for you to do some different things, and we're very proud.
- [48:50]
Seton O'Connor
It's still a little warm from scenes, but. But that's all right.
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Dan Patrick
I'll figure it Out.
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Paulie
Yes, Paul, first of all, congratulations, Seaton. That's awesome. Especially with what your son is doing. Are we supposed to do our commentary? Because I got a lot on Seaton today. Or wait for Friday or some hybrid.
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Dan Patrick
How about Friday? Okay. Unless it comes up in conversation.
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Paulie
I got a couple.
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Dan Patrick
But, you know, know, there's stuff on his desk that people are already asking about. There's. There's soccer scarves. I mean, there's. It won't take long before people will be hovering.
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Dan Patrick
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