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I'm NOAH and I'm 13. And I started this podcast because, honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now, you know, with Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means for the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. Politics is wild, and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de arrasto on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or where you get your podcast. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio, hour two on this Friday. It's a meet Friday. We'll check in with the Cowboys. The great reporter Ed Werder will update us on what's going on. How about them Cowboys Stat of the Day, brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. By the way, I started watching the Cowboys documentary on Netflix. I'm underwhelmed by it and, and I'm not a Cowboy fan, but I, I don't hate the Cowboys. I just didn't grow up as a Cowboy fan. But I appreciate who they are, what they do, what they mean, what Jerry has done with that franchise, the history of that franchise. I mean, I go back to when Don Meredith was playing. I go back to the Ice bowl when the Cowboys played the packers in Green Bay. And I've always appreciated the talent. They're overrated, obviously, but they're over covered as well. I'm just not really hearing anything that I haven't heard before. And if you get Jerry Jones to sign up for 40 hours of being interviewed, I'm gonna guess it's probably not too spicy or negative. And maybe I'm tuning in because that's what I'm hoping for. Like maybe there's something there that I hadn't heard. I mean, Jerry's Jerry. It just felt like it was an extended PR documentary with the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah. Paulie. Yeah. I think there's certain documentaries that don't work because we know everything about the topic. The most overcovered sports team of the last century. We know every story. It gets brought up again and again and again. And the documentary has very little place to go. And, you know, they have everybody in there that you would want to hear from. But it just felt like it was a family reunion and everybody's telling fun stories. You know, the Michael Irvin stuff. But I already knew that because I know Michael and now I probably knew a few stories that, that they didn't include or they didn't know about. But I've been around for 40 years and you're going to hear stories. Yeah. Marvin. Yeah. I'm up to part four right now during the Jimmy Jerry split. And I was a kid when all that stuff was going on, so I didn't know about all the details and I really wasn't paying attention to what was going on with Jimmy and Jerry at that time. So I'm learning a lot going forward, but as far as the games and the Super Bowls and all that, you're completely right. It's nothing new. Yeah. And I'm watching it different than anybody else because of my age. You know, if you've, once again, 40 years that you've been around them or you've watched them or you've listened to stories or you've interviewed people, everybody. We haven't had Jerry on. I don't think so. But most of the people in that documentary we've had on. Jerry does enough TV and radio that probably doesn't have time to squeeze us in, but maybe, maybe in the final year that he'll. He'll take some time and, you know, give us a little bit. He probably doesn't like my impersonation of him because maybe I'm not a leader and he's maybe looking for a leader who's more mature. Yes, Marvin. There's one part that just gives me all I need to know about Jerry Jones and what his goal is, is him getting cameras in the draft room. And Jimmy Johnson's like, why? I know Jimmy was trying to coach a team, Jerry was trying to promote a team, but he was ahead of his time. I mean, he understands how to market. He is really, really good at that. It just, it builds up the expectations. They can never live up to those expectations unless they win a Super Bowl. Even now, this year, if they don't win a playoff game, let's say they win a playoff game, is that a good season? Now, it might be for other franchises, but if I'm a Cowboy fan, I'm like, no, it's like a Steelers, hey, we made the playoffs. Did you win a game? No, that's not a good season. Now, if you said Jacksonville's gonna win a playoff game, then you might go, all right. Pretty good if the Browns are. Bengals. Yeah, pretty good. Arizona Cardinals, Bears. Not these other franchises like Green Bay. You're going to the playoffs now, you got to win a game or two. Steelers, you got to win a game or two. We know the Eagles expectations. Like, there's certain fan bases where you're like, like the 49ers this year. They're probably one of the most under covered teams this year. And I'm not quite sure. I. It feels like they can be really good or really bad. Again, they had all those injuries. They have injuries again, they're wide receivers. I don't know if you can count on Christian McCaffrey, Brock Purdy, just got paid. So now it's not one of those feel good stories. It's. You're making $50 million. Go out there, make some plays. Well, you don't have your playmakers. There's a whole lot more pressure on him this year. But, I mean, you can still watch the Cowboys if you're younger, then you're gonna learn some things. But just for me, I didn't. I haven't learned anything. I'm five episodes in. It's still fun to go down memory lane and open up the scrapbook there, but I'm just not hearing anything that I hadn't heard before. Yeah, Paulie, Even the concept of Jerry Jones participating with a documentary, that's not really called for tells you everything you want to know about him. He's like a documentary. I get to talk for 40 hours. Sign me up. If I just went over 30, I don't think I would be part of a documentary. The timing is terrible over the last 30 years, but he. He's a PR driven person, right to a fault. He wants. He's always selling, always selling, always selling. And the more he gets in front of a microphone, the more opportunities he gets to sell. Yes, Todd, it's nice to learn something or if there's something new in the documentary. I've only seen the first two so far, but if nothing else, I still enjoy hearing Summerall and Madden and trying to guess who the players are when you only catch a little part of the back of their name. And just seeing how the technology. Technology changed from the 80s and 90s to now, so that much is fun. Anyway, David in Ohio. Hi, David. Hey, Dan. Happy meat Friday. Nobody got a few Cowboys Roast highlights here. Micah Parsons scrubbing the Cowboys off his socials is the closest thing Dallas has done to a racing history. Too bad I can't scrub 30 years without a Super Bowl. Got another one. The Cowboys don't need a pass rusher. They need Michael J. Fox and a time machine to go back to when they actually mattered. Thank you. All right, how about David? David roasting there, going Nikki Glazer there, Jeff Ross roast. Wouldn't that be interesting? Would Jerry Jones do a Netflix roast where Nikki Glaser was up there hosting and you brought in other comedians? That'd be spicy. He would. He would do the Tom Brady roast and Jerry would be up there. Do you think that would sell? Do you think Jerry would do it? Yes, Marvin. As much as Jerry loves the spotlight, he's got to watch the Tom Brady roast because you don't Want any parts of that? Seton, what do you think? Jerry Jones, Netflix roast. I would advise him not. Oh, no, no, no. I. I would tell him not to do it, but I'm all about content. Yeah, but he. Because he doesn't get to talk, he has to listen, and he doesn't strike me as a good listener. No. Yes. Paulie. We can schedule it for Midwest February. Wow. You can schedule it for January. Trying to be nice. Yeah. Yes. Todd. I think if there was any chance of him agreeing to that, he'd have to kind of pre screen all the jokes and know exactly what's coming at him ahead of time. So he can come back with retorts or say, nope, the third one eighth one and fifteenth one. You're not gonna say. Well, that's the feeling I got with the documentary. It felt scripted. It just didn't come off as, you know, the Jordan documentary that didn't feel scripted. I mean, it was scripted that Mike had some things he wanted to say, but it felt like there were more of those oh, wow moments with Jerry and the cowboys. It just feels like Emmett's saying something nice and Troy says something nice. Steve Young, who's going to join us next hour, he's involved in the documentary. And so it just didn't have those wow moments that I was hoping for. And, you know, the. The two brothers, the way brothers who do this with the untold, They've had a lot of, you know, success. This one felt like, hey, we'd like to do a documentary on the cowboys. And Jerry probably saying, well, I want to have sign off on this. And whether that happened or not, it just feels like there's a, hey, look at what we did. I'd like to see it. And I'm gonna guess that it probably were putting that under the microscope. Yeah. Pauline. I read a few stories about the Tom Brady Netflix roast, and the comedians were encouraged to avoid a couple topics, and a couple of the comedians blew right through the stop sign. And you saw that on the air. Yeah. They said, stay away from his wife and stay away from his kids. Well, you can't stay away from his wife. I'm sorry. I think it was Kevin Hart who said, you know, Tom, what's wrong with you? Your wife is with a jiu jitsu instructor, and she's only a white belt. You know, she's with him eight hours a day. Good line. Like. Like, come on. That was earlier, dude. Yes, I know. That's when Tom was like, man, that. That almost felt like the New York Giants pass Rushers, the. The defensive line in the super bowl, it's like, oh, damn, this is going to hurt. NFL, I got some information here. The NFL sent out some information. Good news. Concussions are at their lowest level, but illegal sexual gestures are soaring. Okay. The NFL put out information talking about the decrease in concussions, and that's including regular season, postseason, preseason, and that's good. I'm happy for that. I think safer helmets have played a large part here. Those guardian caps in practice, players also want to use them in games they were allowed to in 2024. The dynamic kickoff setup, we don't have players going at full speed and dangerous collisions. Helmet technology is improved. Aaron Rodgers had to change his helmet. There were older models that were outlawed this season. He was forced to get a safer helmet and he's been complaining about that. The dynamic kickoff is here to stay with the league. If you look at the Numbers now, about 1/3 of kickoffs were returned last season and 2023, 1/5 of kickoffs were return. And they, you know, the league got concerned because it became ceremonial was their word. Super Bowl 58, Chiefs and the Niners, 13 kickoffs, none return. 59 returns covered at least 40 yards in 2024. That's the most since 2016. There were seven return for touchdowns, most since 2021. Field position changing. Touchbacks will be brought out to the 35 yard line, not the 30. There's less punts, therefore less collisions. Taunting is up 55% from last year. Unsportsmanlike gestures, whether either simulating or shooting a gun. Well, they're not shooting a gun. They're simulating shooting a gun or carrying a gun or brandishing a gun. Inappropriate gestures, throat slash, sexual gestures that were made. Those were up almost 133%. Let's see anything else that the league wants us to know. That's pretty good. That's a positive news there. Yes, Paul, it appears the point of emphasis will be if you make a gun gesture or. Or grab your undercarriage in some fashion after I touchdown. If you grab your gun, yes. Okay. Happiness is a warm gun and taunting. You can taunt, but you have to taunt away from the person. So let's say you're going to celebrate after a touchdown. You have to do so towards the crowd, not towards the defender. That's actually a serious thing. Yeah, the concussion part, that's great. The fact that you don't have regular kickoffs where you have those, everybody running at full speed and, you know, it's like seen out of Braveheart. You don't have those anymore. You're getting kickoffs returned. Yes, Seton, the. You know, you also have to be careful taunting the crowd, too, because if you taunt too closely to the crowd, you'll still get an unsportsmanlike penalty, I believe. Right. So you kind of have to do it within a certain buffer zone of taunting that area. I always used to marvel at the guys during kickoff who, as soon as the ball is kicked off, you know, they would start sprinting down the field and the returning player would catch the ball, you know, down at whatever touchback, and some of those guys would continue running for, like, another 30 yards and very, very, very slowly let off the speed. I understand you can't immediately hit the brakes, but surely you could slow down somewhere sooner than 30 to 40 yards extra that you're running. Bud, keep this in mind. That might be their only TV time. That's J. True. So you get 30 more yards of TV time even though you didn't do anything. You know, you got your mom and dad and they're watching. They're go, look at Jimmy. I see. Coach, I finish out every play. Coach, I finish out every play. You know, that's him, 43. Watch him. Right into the end zone. Didn't do anything. Yes. Don, how tenuous is the condition of your hamstring where you can't just stop a little sooner, where you think you're going to blow out the back of your leg and you have to go another 40 yards. Wait, wait. Look who's talking. Well, I'm not a professor. I'm not a professional athlete. I'm sitting here. But. But you can't even play wiffle ball. I get injured very easily. Yes, that is true. Your feelings get hurt, you hurt your arm. Wiffle ball, pickleball, your foot. I'm a mess. I'm feeling my age plus 10. Okay. All right, let me take a break. Ed Werder, he's a decorated reporter, formerly of the mothership, and covers the Cowboys. Our stat of the day, by the way, brought to you by Panini America. Say good morning if you're watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app operator Tyler sitting by. Did I say what we were having for meat Friday? Did I just jump right into the Cowboys? But wait, wait, hold on. So we have asparagus, corn on the cob, we have roast beef sliders, mashed potatoes, and beef strip loin roast. Who has it better than we do? You got me. No. Ed Werder joins us next. Ed Werder has more right after this. Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. He's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Byer and we have a fantasy football podcast called I want your Flex. That's right Dan. Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup. Sits starts fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to to dominate the competition. Listen to I Want yout Flex with Mike Carmen and me, Dan Beyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and wherever you get your podcasts. 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I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast. It's One Small Step is about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space. You're a great pilot, Buzz. As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen. That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition to depression, alcohol abuse and suicide. We'll see Buzz, try to overcome demons. What do you say, Buzz? Another beer and triumph over addiction. Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin. Good luck to you and become a true hero. Buzz and I will proceed into the lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself. Buzz. We intercepted a Soviet radio transmission starring me, John Lithgow. Can you put it through? Can you Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Columbia. I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would, if he actually did the research. 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Recognized by the Pro Football hall of Fame, he's been covering the Cowboys since 1989, and this season he's covering the boys for WFAA TV. Ed Werder, Cowboy Insider, joining us on the program. What was your first impression of Jerry Jones? My first impression of Jerry Jones was formed in 1989 when I first moved to the Dallas Metroplex to cover the Cowboys for the Fort Worth Star Telegram. He was definitely a huge personality. I didn't have a lot to compare it to at the time. I've been covering the Denver Broncos, and Pat Boland was obviously maintained a different profile, but yeah, it was, it was clear that, you know, Jerry was somebody who could not embrace criticism, but he could withstand it and that he was going to be a very prominent personality in the league for as long as he owned the franchise. Why do we have a cowboy documentary like why now is and, and did you learn anything new? And I know you're, you're interviewed in this, but why now for a cowboy documentary? I think it's kind of a, a legacy, you know, piece for Jerry. He's 82 years old. They've been irrelevant in terms of competing for championships for 30 years. I think Jerry wanted, you know, something that sort of documented his place in the NFL and how it all began and what he accomplished during his career. And he wanted to take credit for certain things for which he has not yet been given credit. And I mean, there's just always, there's always the soap opera. I mean, there's always drama around the team. I mean, you know, Dan, most, most coaches, most general managers, the first thing that they want to do other than have a healthy football team is eliminate distractions. And Jerry's different in that. He has said as recently as this training camp, when it gets quiet, I like to stir it up. And so, for all of those reasons, the Cowboys are very good theater. And he had an offer of, you know, $50 million to cooperate and do this piece. If fans in Dallas could vote whether they wanted Jerry to continue as the owner, how would that go? I think Jerry would win the three votes of his family members who were involved in the organization and might lose all of the remaining votes. I think the media would like to have keep Jerry around. He's. He's obviously good for what we do, always has been good for our business. But, yeah, I mean, I thought that was one of the interesting things about this documentary and the timing. And one of the things that struck me while watching it was when Jerry came here in 1989, he was vilified, he was hated. Very strong dislike for him for firing Tom Landry, franchise icon, even though he had been losing. And many people, including his bosses within the organization, TexCram, thought the end had come or was near for Tom Landry. Jerry's the one who actually did it. And here we are 35 years later, and a lot of that animosity still remains toward Jerry. And I didn't know if Cowboys fans of football fans in general would watch this documentary just out of curiosity or to have a sense of nostalgia, or they would refuse to do so in protest over the way Jerry runs his business. Any chance that Micah Parsons agent is the issue here in these negotiations? Look, I think that, first of all, it's not uncommon for the Cowboys to be this close to their opener and have a very prominent player unsigned. It happened last year with CD Lamb. It happened with Ezekiel Elliott, who signed the week of Jason Garrett's first game of his final season. Happened last. Dak Prescott was about to get on the bus to go to the stadium. If Jerry would have waited any longer to sign Dak Prescott, he would have had to have Mike McCarthy call a timeout in the first quarter. But I think they're. I. I don't know that David Mulagued is to blame specifically for this. He's had clients, certainly, you know, who have forced the issue to get the terms that they think are fair to them. And, I mean, Jalen Ramsey claimed the back injury, missed three game checks, and ultimately got traded, which was his desire. Micah Parsons might want to follow that routine to a point. I don't think Michael Parsons wants to be traded. And I think ultimately, Dan, like both sides, are complicit in where they are today. Micah Parsons was, you know, naive to engage Jerry Jones in contract negotiations without Mulligetta. His representation being present. And Jerry was wrong after 35 years of being a general manager to think that he could reach a binding agreement with a superstar player while his agent was not involved. We're talking to Ed Werder. He's been covering the Cowboys since 1989, working for WFAA TV in Dallas. Let's talk about the team on the field though, because it feels like we talk about everything else on the periphery with the Cowboys comes down to how threatening is this team if everybody's on the field? How good are the Cowboys generally speaking, when Dak Prescott has been healthy and played most or all of the season as a starting quarterback, the Cowboys have been in the playoffs. I think this is the first time in Dak's 10 year career as a Cowboys starting quarterback that they go into the season as probably the third best team in their own division. I mean, Philadelphia and Washington played the NFC championship game last year. The Cowboys went 1 in 3 against those two teams, although they didn't have Dak Prescott. Prescott's been the most dominant player in the division in the regular season. He's 338 against division opponents. But the division is certainly stronger now than it was early in his career. And so division championships are harder to win. When the defending super bowl champion is in your division and you're opening against them in less than two weeks and they have a first time, you know, head coach and Brian Schottenheimer, who. Danny has two jobs this year that he didn't have a year ago. One, he's a head coach. He wasn't the head coach last year. He was the offensive coordinator, but he wasn't the play caller. Now he's a play caller and the head coach. So he's got a lot to deal with that he hasn't had to do in his previous career. And also more pressure on the Cowboys after what the commanders have done and they've got their quarterback. It's a young team there. You know, if they get Terry McLaurin in there, we think they're going to be formidable. The Giants, it feels like it's maybe wait till next year Dak and his age and what he gets paid and like that surprised me. I've been very vocal that I like Dak as a person. He's been very good to the show. I just wouldn't sign him up for that kind of money. I just, I didn't understand that, you know, bringing back Zeke Kelly, like there's certain things that Jerry has done really well or his, his team has done really well, but the Dak part of it, 32 coming off an injury and you're paying him $60 million. It's amazing that a year later he still has by $5 million, the highest average salary in the NFL among players at any position. That just speaks, I think, not only to his value to the Cowboys and Jerry's fear of not having a franchise type quarterback going into a season without somebody he thinks can win games on a consistent basis. I mean, how fortunate are the Cowboys? Dak Prescott was a fourth round pick. Tony Romo was an undrafted player. They've had 20 years of high level quarterbacking without investing a first round pick. And in the case of Dak and his salary, I mean, it's really just leverage. It's what Micah Parsons is going through now. You know, Dak and his agent mastered that. I mean, they forced the Cowboys to franchise tag. They'd never franchise tagged a quarterback in their history. They franchise tagged Dak twice and ultimately Jerry feared losing him, and so he did what it took. How did the Eagles not end up back in this Super Bowl? I think it all comes down to injuries. If, you know, Jalen Hurts, stays healthy. If their defense with Vic Fangio, which could be the youngest in the NFL this year, holds up, I do expect the Eagles to be the first team to repeat as division champions since Philadelphia did that in 2004 with Andy Reid. This is a division, as you know. Interestingly, F has had a new champion for 20 plus consecutive years. That being said, I still think there's a big difference between Washington and Philadelphia, all things being equal. We saw that in the NFC Championship game when Philadelphia dominated that game and dominated the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. They're a really good team. Their front office takes a completely different approach to being proactive and signing their best players. You would think maybe Jerry Jones would study that and apply that to his franchise. He's chosen to do just the opposite. What's the craziest story you've ever been involved in or heard about the Cowboys? You can leave out names if you need to. I mean, I think we, we've, we saw them in the documentary, you know, the Michael Irvin situation, being arrested with drug charges, there being a murder for hire plot involved in the trial, him ultimately missing six games to start a season, and Deion Sanders becoming, you know, Troy Aikman's number one receiver. So it's hard to, it's hard to say that. There's just been so much Dan over time and it's all played out very Publicly. So I don't know that there's something that we have that we're not aware of that I could share with you. Even if I eliminated the names, that would be more curious than all of the things we've seen happen openly. Yeah, I felt the same way when I watched the documentary. But, you know, I've been around, you know, doing this professionally for 40 years, but somebody who is younger, let's say you're 30 years of age and your entire lifetime, Dallas, hasn't won anything. And then all of a sudden, you take a trip down memory lane. You're like, damn, we used to be good. We used to. We used to have stars who wore that star on their helmet. Well, I think the thing that, you know, comes through when you watch the documentary is what a great coach Jimmie Johnson was, not only in terms of identifying and developing talent and making, you know, the Herschel Walker trade, which was a unique move in the whole history of the league by a relatively novice NFL coach at the time, but he also was a master psychologist. And the players on that team, the principal leaders of that team, unlike those today, like, they met the challenge in the postseason, they were up for it. We haven't seen that from a Cowboys team in over 30 years where the Cowboys play their best in the biggest moments against the best opponents. Always great to talk to you. You always got something to cover, though, with the Cowboys. You imagine if you were covering Jacksonville, Arizona. I'm very fortunate that I took an offer from the Fort Worth Star Telegram when I was a young reporter, even though it wasn't really a job I wanted at the time. I wanted to stay in Denver and work at the Denver Post and had the opportunity to do that, but wound up coming to Fort Worth covering the Cowboys ever since. And, yeah, I. I've always said I wouldn't have had the career I've had if not for the fact I was so close to covering, you know, I was involved in covering the Cowboys and all the curious situations that happened with them. I'm glad you are. Good to talk to you. Thanks again. Thanks, Dan Edward, Cowboys Insider for WFAA TV in Dallas. It's. It's not something where you show up at work and you go, man, maybe something today. You know, when you show up at work, something is going to happen. That's just the way it's been. A couple of phone calls in here, Ellen in Wisconsin. Hi, Ellen. What's on your mind today? I want to give the young man who's gonna be proposing this weekend some Old lady advice. Okay, that's Aiden. And Aiden in Utah is getting engaged this weekend. Okay, Ellen, quickly. Flowers, flowers and more flowers. And now the important one is he needs to reach out to her best friend or her sister. This buys him two things. Number one, it buys him goodwill that he wants. He keeps saying the word perfect. Perfect, perfect, perfect. Number two, what it really does is it absolves him of all guilt if, you know, all blame if she are even worse. Her mother doesn't like the way it went down. All right, you got to keep the mother in law quiet long as humanly possible. That's all I've got. You guys have a great weekend. Thank you. Thank you, Ellen. I think you're making it a little more complicated than it needs to be. Now I get her best friend and maybe her mom involved and then. People can't keep a secret. The less the better. Make it quick. The less people know, the better. Yes, Marvin, Question for everybody in the room. Did you guys ask your wives, dads for permission? No. No, Satan. I did. Yeah. Todd. Yeah, I made both parents aware of what the game plan was going to be. Did you ask or you just made them aware? I didn't formally say about asking their hand in marriage. I, I think I basically said I'm going to be knowing that they wanted me to. That I'm going to be proposing on this day and time. And just to make them aware that baggage claim at jfk. Yeah, I actually needed them to be following behind because I was getting picked up by Jen at the airport and I needed the in laws to bring a bag so they would have clothes for Miami to not ruin the surprise that we were heading to Miami right after proposing. Nothing more romantic than baggage claim at jfk. Got that right. I, I see that in movies all the time. You know, Tom Hanks or Julia Roberts. It's probably a baggage claim. Yes, it is something right out of a movie actually. It really is. Yeah. See that's where you get with the baggage claim guy. And then you get a piece of luggage, her luggage, and then you have it come off the chute and it says, will you marry me? Oh, I'm writing scripts here. I am writing scripts. Is there really a baggage claim guy these days? Like there's like someone that's assigned to the carousel five. I don't know. Todd, you're a producer. Michael Jordan used to pay the guy at the airport extra money, like 20 bucks to make sure his bags came off first because they'd always bet whose bags would come off first. Well, that's just it. That's 20 bucks. I'd be giving him like two or three singles and he's like, get out of here. And then they would never happen. Yes, Paul, I don't think I heard before that Todd, after the proposal, whisked his wife away to Miami on a surprise trip. Is that correct? Yeah, I had a red eye flight from LA to New York. I landed like 6 in the morning and I had a 9am scheduled flight for the both of us to assuming she was gonna say yes, to celebrate for three nights at the Eden Rock Hotel on South beach on Collins Avenue. That's a strong move. I'm gonna give him bonus points for that. That would've been a lot of things to cancel for flights and hotels. And she's like, you know what? Nah, I met somebody. Well, you do have a girlfriend in Miami, an ex girlfriend? I do. I don't know if she still lives there. It's been. I haven't communicated with her in a while, but that. Yeah, that would be the lovely Lana. Little Russian girl from the hood, from the neighborhood. Oh, I know. And. And remember, we were at the Clevelander, I think, and all of a sudden I see. I see Fritzi with this woman and you, you like. I did very quickly said, you know, I got a lot of yentas, a lot of gossiping staff members. Let's just get out of here before they start asking questions. And then I see him later, I go, what was that? He goes, ah, just a old girlfriend. I said, well, you made it worse by kind of sneaking away. It didn't make it worse. I just said, this is a girl. I used to go out. She wanted to come see the show as opposed to let's get out of here before they know, find out what's happening. Stop, Todd. She was. She was good looking. She introduced me to. She introduced me to her friend back at the apartment. And that's pretty much where it ended. Hey, now get that started. Get that on record. There's a big difference between thought bubbles and things that actually happen in the world. Oh, you lead the league in I'm guilty of a major. Absolutely. I thought you could go to jail with your thought bubbles. All right, when we come back, best week in sports you got. Like, how can you talk sports in three hours? Yankees 5, Guardians 3. Get over it. That was at Big Dean's in Santa Monica when we did the meet and greet. And of course, Todd ran into somebody who had his face on her shirt. And next thing you know, Todd is chatting her up for. Did I know you? Why is your face on a shirt? That's so weird. What do you guys do for a living? 99,93 pistons. Get on with it. I do think that's your best impersonation because you do capture that girl who's sitting next to her sister and her sister has your face on her T shirt and she can't understand it because she has no idea who you are. No idea at all. Best week in sports. 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I mean, he was just, I think, fundamentally a great boxer. And, you know, six, five, he was from England, but I think people forget just how great he was. Mike Tyson avoided him for years and for good reason because when they did fight, it, you know, Lennox Lewis was a boxer and Mike, you know, was a puncher, but it's just, it's almost like Greg Maddox throwing a fastball on his first pitch and then the next pitch is, you know, gonna find the plate as well. That's what Scotty does. It's in the fairway, it's on the green. Maybe he's gonna one putt, probably just two putt. Don't wait for him to make mistakes because it's not going to happen. And here he is, you know this. He's one of the biggest favorites we've had at an event since Tiger. Now the odds are a little bit different. Patrick Cantlay shot a nine under. Scotty only shot a seven under. So you have that this weekend. You have a top 25 matchup to start the college football season. Number 22, Iowa State. Number 17, K State, Fresno State in Kansas. Kurt Warner's son E.J. is Fresno State's quarterback. I like Jalen Daniels, Kansas. I think he's a talented quarterback. Yankees Red Sox again. Dodgers at the Padres. Dodgers 73 wins. Padres 72 and for Seaton Soccer Manchester City versus Tottenham. Yeah, let's go get slide into the weekend. Kings hawaiian go to kingsoine.com all your recipe inspirations Best week in sports who had the best week in sports? Todd We've made fun of them enough. I'm going to give some love to the Colorado rockies. They've won seven of their last 10 including splitting a four game series with the Dodgers. So let's give it up to the Rockies playing some better baseball. Seaton Best week in sports turned in by I'm going with Corbin Carroll of the Arizona Diamondbacks. He made major league baseball history this week by becoming the second player since 1965 to have 16 triples and 27 home runs in a single season. He's like almost single handedly powering a little bit of a Diamonds bounce back but Diamondbacks bounce back is what I should say. Yeah, snakes are alive. Sixteen triples and 27 home runs. That's awesome. Dang. When's the last time somebody had 20 triples in a sea? Is the triple coming back? The triple is so back. Yeah. I'm wondering the last time somebody. That's a lot of triples, Marvin. Best week in sports turned in by Giancarlo Stanton. Since you said he wasn't a Hall of Famer. He said three home runs in the past week. Take that D.P. well, no, I didn't say he wasn't. I just wondered if 500 home runs would get Giancarlo Stanton into the Baseball hall of Fame. You meant to say first ballot, Mr. Marlin. Giancarlo Stanton. Shouldn't. Shouldn't the Cowboys put Herschel Walker in their ring of honor with what he did for that franchise contributions? Yes, yes, Paulie Best week in sports turned in by on triples, by the way, the most triples in the past quarter century. I got Curtis Granderson with 23 in 2007. How about that? Best week in sports. Remember Malik Beasley, the solid guard for the Pistons. And he was a couple months ago the subject of a federal gambling investigation. Two days before he was about to sign a three year $50 million contract extension which went to some other player. According to Associated Press, Malik Beasley is no longer a Target of the gambling investigation in any way by the Eastern district of New York clearing him to get back into the NBA, but not get that contract. Not necessarily, but a chance. Giovanni in Sarasota. Giovanni, what's on your mind today? Good morning, Mr. Patrick. It's a pleasure to talk to you first time ever. And I'd like to have the honor to say. Nobody ever said it before. I'm your number one Colombian fan. Thank you. I have a question. It's part related question. That is I have a comment. And I have a compliment, if I may. I like to tell Fritzi, no matter what anybody says, he's great at what he does. And what he just said about his proposal clears all the negativity that he's done in the past. So you get my book on that. Holy. Appreciate, Paulie, all your knowledge that you bring to the show. We all learn from that. Seaton, your laugh is contagious. Keep it up. And Marvin, you're living up to the expectations, so keep up the good work. Mr. Patrick, me and my wife celebrated our 31st year anniversary last year. I mean, last month. And when I asked what you wanted to get for that celebration, since I always mess that up, she told me the same thing. Since you always mess it up, I want to get us tickets for next month to see the Sandman. She surprised me with that because I should be the one doing that. Yeah, that'll be great. You'll. You'll appreciate Sandman. He puts on a great show. He's been touring the country. And congratulations on 31 years and all the kind words there, Giovanni. 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This episode focuses on the enduring drama and legacy of the Dallas Cowboys, sparked by discussion of the recent Netflix Cowboys documentary and joined by longtime Dallas reporter Ed Werder. The show dives into the franchise’s media saturation, internal dysfunction, the role of Jerry Jones, and current contract standoffs—namely with Micah Parsons. Ed Werder offers in-depth perspective into the Cowboys’ perpetual “soap opera,” Jerry Jones’s motivations, the team’s prospects, and broader NFL news.
Dan Patrick’s Take
“If you get Jerry Jones to sign up for 40 hours of being interviewed, I’m gonna guess it’s probably not too spicy or negative... It just felt like it was an extended PR documentary with the Dallas Cowboys.” (03:00)
Impressions from the Danettes
On Jerry Jones as a Media Figure
“He’s a PR driven person, right to a fault. He’s always selling, always selling, always selling.”
The Burden of Hype
“They can never live up to those expectations unless they win a Super Bowl.”
Comparing Fanbases
The 49ers as Under-Covered
“Helmet technology is improved... Aaron Rodgers had to change his helmet... Dynamic kickoff is here to stay.”
Werder’s View
On Cowboys’ Enduring Drama
“Micah Parsons was naïve to engage Jerry Jones in contract negotiations without his representation present. And Jerry was wrong to think he could reach a binding agreement with a superstar player while his agent was not involved.” (48:55)
Can the Cowboys Contend?
Why Pay Dak Big Money?
“Their front office takes a completely different approach to being proactive and signing their best players... Maybe Jerry should study that.”
“It’s all played out very publicly... I don’t know that there’s something that we have that we’re not aware of that I could share with you.” (55:20)
Dan on the Cowboys doc
“It just felt like it was a family reunion and everybody's telling fun stories... but I already knew that because I know Michael [Irvin] and I’ve been around for 40 years.” (04:30)
Paulie on Jerry Jones
“Jerry’s a PR driven person, right to a fault. He’s always selling, always selling, always selling.” (08:11)
Ed Werder on Jerry’s legacy
“He was hated... for firing Tom Landry... Here we are 35 years later, and a lot of that animosity still remains toward Jerry.” (46:45)
Werder explaining Cowboys’ drama
“Most general managers want to eliminate distractions. Jerry’s different. He likes to stir it up.” (46:00)
Werder on Dak’s contract
“It’s amazing a year later [after the new deal], he still has by $5 million the highest average salary in the NFL among players at any position.” (52:30)
Werder summing up his own career
“I wouldn’t have had the career I’ve had if not for the fact I was so close to covering... the Cowboys and all the curious situations that happened with them.” (57:00)
This hour offers a snapshot of why the Dallas Cowboys loom so large in both football and pop culture: a bombastic owner, a team forever in the limelight, and a history of public drama often eclipsing performance. Ed Werder’s stories ground the glitz in reality and show that for all of Jerry Jones’s attempts to control the Cowboys’ story, they remain as chaotic and captivating as ever—on and off the field.