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Dan Patrick
We did it. We made it to a meet Friday. It's Hour two, the gang is here. Todd, the minister of human Marvin humor. Marvin. Paulie. Dylan. Dylan not only sitting in the back row with Todd, he's also whipping up a feast of resistance. It's porterhouse steaks. Is this Peter Luger style?
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Dylan
Yes.
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Dan Patrick
One of the most famous steakhouses in America. They don't take credit cards, I believe. At Peter Luger's in Brooklyn, New York, yes.
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Dylan
It will be cash only today.
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Dan Patrick
All righty. We have tomahawk ribeyes, we have tableside Caesar salad, and we have o grotten potatoes. Who has it better than we do?
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Robert Smigel
Nobody.
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Dan Patrick
Steaks provided by heartland steak Co. Taste the heartland difference there. So you're going to do a tableside Caesar salad?
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Dylan
We are. That'll be the first course, Dan. And then followed up with our steak and potatoes.
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Dan Patrick
Do you have the little cart that you're gonna roll out that they do at steakhouses?
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Dylan
I found something that'll work in the back.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, okay. There's a lot of things in the garage that have been out there for a long time, even before we got here.
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Dylan
Yep, it was. There's a lot of heavy machinery back there.
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Dan Patrick
Yes, there is. All right. Or yes, there are.877.3DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP show say good morning. If you're watching this program, you can watch it all unfold with all the cameras. We. We've added new cameras. We have more cameras. It. Basically, wherever you go in this building, there is a camera, except for the bathrooms. Although Chrissy Teigen, the swimsuit model, she kept saying, you swear. You swear you don't have a camera in the bathroom. I go, I don't have one in the bathroom. That. That's illegal. She goes, so. And I go, I do not have a camera in the bathroom. I mean, Todd's creepy, but not that creepy.
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Todd
No, we have the. We have to draw a line somewhere.
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Dan Patrick
Yes, we do. But, yeah, cameras all around. And you can explore the man cave. Our director, the eyes and ears of the program, Mario, is here to guide you through with all the different places. We got the bullpen. We got the director's room. We have the basketball court, pickleball court there as well. We have Tyler in there answering your phone calls. We have the dogs that are in there as well. Couple of dogs. And we have. Me. Yes, Paulie.
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Paulie
When people visit the man cave for the first time, they love looking at the field house, the outside area. They love the stuff, though. They start looking on your desk and behind you and on our side and like, whose shoes are these?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Paulie
Whose surfboard is this?
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Dan Patrick
I think what happens is it looks larger in person when, when you're watching on tv, it doesn't look as big. That's what she said. But you have the man cave and it is, it's a, an embarrassment of riches. This is. Considering where we were with the old man cave that was basically two, three rooms. This has got, I don't know, 12,000 square feet. Yes, Dylan.
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Dylan
I remember one of my first times going over to the old studio and I think you guys had just had meat Friday and Tyler was doing the dishes in the pedestal sink in the bathroom. Like there was no. The grill had to be brought outside onto like the fire escape.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had Alan, our IT guy, who also doubled as the chef, and we were out on a fire escape whipping up meat Friday. All right, poll question results from hour one. We will talk to the CEO of the PGA Tour, Brian Roland. He'll stop by, a few questions to ask him about and Nate Borgazzi, the comedian. His movie Breadwinner comes out today in, I believe, theaters around the country. All right, deal. What do you have?
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Dylan
What's worse, being Underdressed or overdressed? 78% of the public say being underdressed is worse. Okay, and what is your reaction after Game 6 last night in San Antonio? Now, I think the spurs are going to win. I always had the spurs winning or now I think the Thunder are going to win or I always had the thunder. 40% always had the Thunder. So they're still believing.
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Dan Patrick
Well, they're still the favorites to win the title at minus 145, the Knicks at plus 210, the spurs at plus 550. And Saturday night, game seven Thunder, they will be giving three and a half to the Spurs. We like to look at experience when you get this far, no matter what the sport is, you know, if you have somebody who's a rookie or a first year, second year player, that experience. Well, you can't look at OKC any different than you can San Antonio this year because OKC hadn't won it last year. And we were wondering, you know, you get to those game sevens pressure situations, trying to win a championship. Well, they were the youngest team in the NBA and they ended up playing well. SGA played well in the game seven against Joker and the Nuggets. He had 35. Game seven in the finals against the Pacers, he had 29 and 12 assists. Did not play well. He hasn't played well in their losses. He's played really well in their victories. Victor Wembanyama has played well in San Antonio's victories and not so well when they've lost. Is there direct correlation? Yes. As SGA goes, OKC goes, as Wemby goes, so did the San Antonio Spurs. Can you be as aggressive, if they were more aggressive than I'm seeing them? But SGA only had three free throws. And that's where I wondered, was it a market correction? Was there something where consciously, subconsciously, this topic comes up with the officials with the NBA? I don't know that, but it did feel like there was more play on moments last night. And this is what I want to see. I will. If. If you get fouled, call the foul. But if you're hunting fouls, then I'm gonna. I'm gonna really be tough on you, and I'm gonna say play on. But if it's something that happens in the course of a game, that is in the flow of a game, then call it. I have no problem with that. But I also wonder, does SGA care how he's being viewed? Does he consciously, subconsciously not hunt those fouls last night? Now, I would tell him, do what you've been doing. Don't stop just because people are saying, hey, this is going to affect your legacy or however they want to frame this. Go out and play the way you play. Because in 20 years from now, if you have two titles and two MVPs, it's okay if they say, yeah, but you were hunting fouls. Yep, you're right. I want to be criticized for winning. I. I'm okay with that. I remember I won a sports Emmy for studio host, and Bob Costas wasn't in the category. And I remember somebody saying, hey, you won it, but Costas wasn't in it. And I go, I don't give a bleep. I couldn't care less. Bob wasn't in the category. He wasn't doing a studio show. I couldn't care less. I just wanted to win. Yeah, Paulie.
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Paulie
And the funny thing is, it was Bob Costa.
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Dan Patrick
That's weird. I wasn't going to say that.
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Paulie
Third person.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Todd
Awkward.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Oh, that was awkward. That was 1996, and I was up against Chris Berman, and I'm sitting at the table, so all the people at ESPN are there, and I get nominated. And it was kind of an oh, by the way, nomination, because Chris is there and he's telling the producers for, like, NFL Countdown who he's going to thank when he wins the award. So I'm sitting at the table, and I don't say anything. And I do think Chris is going to win, and I would have no problem if he did. But he's saying, I gotta thank. And he started going around telling these producers. And then at the very end, he comes back to me, and he goes, and good luck to you. And the winner is. Dan Patrick. Yeah, I. I grabbed the sports Emmy. I walked by and said, you know, thank you to everybody at the table with ESPN who was there. And I went to Clark's, which is a bar that's a couple of blocks down there. I sat there because I was like, I. I can't hold this trophy at that table with Chris Berman, who is responsible for espn. And I was like, I am going, and I'm going to sit at the bar with my sports Emmy by myself for I don't know how long, but. And then everybody came. That was where the after party was. And then I left soon after that. Yes.
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Dylan
Dylan, did you throw the Emmy up on the bar like it's a beer league softball trophy? Let's put some down.
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Dan Patrick
No, I did want to put it down by my feet, but then I. I thought, I. If it breaks, then somebody will sell. Yeah, he didn't even care. So I. I did put it on the bar. And, you know, the bartender, you know, said, do you want me to put this behind the bar? And I said, yes, but don't let me forget it, you know. Yes, Todd.
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Todd
And you're just supposed to be the Charlotte Observer. You're not supposed to be beating him in any kind of categories.
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Dan Patrick
Hey, what he did at espn, they should be naming a building or putting a statue up. Without Chris, there's no espn and Bob Lee and Tommy's not great respect. My first Sports center with was with Chris, but it was such an awkward moment. I also got up one time because I thought I. I had won, and Bob Costas won that one. So I awkwardly went on stage, I accepted Bob Emmy, and I remember grabbing it from Melissa Stark, and I said, here, let me have that. She goes, it's Bob's. And I go, well, I was already moving towards the stage, so I thought I'd go up there and give a speech because I hadn't won in a long time. So I'm thanking people that it had died. And I walked off the stage. I have that sports Emmy here. Bob never, never came back and got it, I don't think. Yeah, Paulie.
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Paulie
That's what's funny about it. As Part of a bit. Bob Costas brought a sports Emmy up here and forgot he left it here.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, he said, yeah, you can have it. And, and I have it somewhere. He, he was like, probably didn't have any room left on his shelves. All right, couple of phone calls here. 877-3DP show. Do we have a new poll question for hour two? Dylan we do.
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Dylan
We've got a few more of those ones Todd sent over earlier. Which would you rather make people do? Laugh like a stand up comedian, cheer like an athlete, sing and dance like a musician, be physically or mentally healthier like a doctor or therapist, Be, be inspired or energetic like a motivational speaker, or make people smarter like a teacher or professor?
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Dan Patrick
Todd, what would you like to be one day?
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Todd
I hope to make people laugh on a regular basis at a high level. I know I walked right into that. But for me, that would get most joy out of making people laugh like that.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Paulie
Paul, maybe someday you'll have an outlet to do that.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, like a platform, like three hours to be able to make people laugh
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Todd
or to get an opportunity to be on the grandest of stages and not bomb at comedy clubs in New York and la.
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Dan Patrick
Yes.
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Dylan
Dylan, I think Todd can make a decent therapist. Most therapists, you don't really want to look under their hood.
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Dan Patrick
No, no, because it becomes about him. It wouldn't be about your problems. Todd would say, yeah, but that reminds me. And then he would tell you about his problem.
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Todd
I get depressed too, and I have that whole, you know, obsessive compulsive disorder thing. I just like you. Reminds me, I think, worse than yours.
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Dan Patrick
I think being a musician, that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, and, and you know, when you factor in, when you're a comedian, you can't tell the same jokes like two years from now. You know, David Spade famously says, hey, musicians can play the same song. Springsteen can play the same songs for decades now you can play it differently. You know, Billy Joel can still play Piano Man. We didn't start the fire. Whereas a comedian, it's like, didn't you say that like two years ago? Yes, Dylan.
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Dylan
Yeah, I think that's actually kind of a debated thing in the comedy world, because there's some, there's like the Jerry Seinfelds of the world who will play the hits even later on. And then there's like the Louis CK's who are have a new hour regularly. But I think it's kind of, it can be viewed as kind of being hack if you're just like all Right. Let me pull out some of the old.
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Dan Patrick
Is Louis CK still doing stand up? Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah, he's back.
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Dylan
Oh, he is still hilarious.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. I haven't seen anything.
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Dylan
Yeah, he was on. He just did a big tour in Europe, I think. Oh, and then he's gonna chill out.
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Dan Patrick
Yes. Todd. Yeah.
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Todd
A lot of people be like, you know, oh, we've heard that joke. Don't you have any new material? But as you were saying, for a musician, it's like, play that again.
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Ryan Seacrest
Play.
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Todd
They can't get enough of some of your hits.
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Dan Patrick
Thank you, Todd. You're welcome, Lucas in Texas. Hey, Lucas.
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Caller Phil
Hey, Dan.
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Caller M
Good morning.
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Dan Patrick
Good morning.
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Caller M
Happy me Friday to you and the boys.
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Dan Patrick
And I don't know if I've never
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Caller M
actually properly introduced myself to Dylan, so just glad to have you on the show and formally suck it.
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Brian Rolapp
Thank you.
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Caller M
I have a quick question for you, Dan, and it relates to sports fandom. You know, I'm a proud Houston sports fan, which means, you know, all the way down the line, baseball, football, basketball, which means I'm kind of stuck as a Rockets fan and growing up in Texas, watching the spurs, it's always been fun to cheer for them, but I feel because of my, you know, presupposition as a Rockets fan, I can't ever really fully be a fan of the Spurs. At the same time, I just feel like you can't be a genuine fan of two teams. You know, do you guys ever feel. Do you guys have any basketball or football teams where it's almost like you wish you could be a fan of that team, but you were kind of trapped by your fandom that you inherited or that you had early on as a kid.
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Dan Patrick
I think you have to have that bias build up that you just can't root for certain teams. And, you know, it's territorial. I get that. But it. I was always amazed the number of fans who wanted to root for the Chicago Bulls, even if it meant at the expense of their team. Now, I'm not talking about Phoenix Suns or the Utah Jazz or Seattle SuperSonics when they would get to the NBA Finals, but I am talking about regular season, when the Bulls would go to Atlanta. It would be a home game for the Bulls if the Bulls, you know, pick a spot. And chances are people came out to see them. And it's the only team that I truly remember where if you lost, it was okay as long as Jordan played well. You got to see him play. And I don't remember any other team except for the Harlem Globetrotters. Where you tuned, you. You came out to see them win, have fun. Now, granted, that was scripted, but the Bulls people were. It was. You were seeing a boy band. It was that important. You were seeing something you had never seen before. We. You had never seen somebody like Mike before and they were great and they were winning championships. And then you had the commercials attached to that. You've had individuals where I think people would show up to see Shohei Ohtani and root for Shohei Ohtani. But the Bulls were a dynasty. Now, people in Detroit weren't rooting for the Bulls, that's for sure. And Boston, they weren't rooting. And la, they weren't. But I was always amazed the number of people who. And parents who would bring their kids out so they could see the Bulls and get Bulls gear on the road. And I don't remember another team in my lifetime covering sports where I saw that. Yes, Dylan.
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Dylan
Yeah, my mom, who thinks a football field is like 40 yards long, she even knows like all of the 90s Bulls players and that is so outside of her world.
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Dan Patrick
And I don't know if the Chiefs fell into that category because it felt like there was a push back of Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift. They're on all the time. Mahomes gets preferential treatment. Chris Collinsworth can't tell you how much he loves Patrick Mahomes. So there was like, okay, enough. You never had that with the Bulls.
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Dan Patrick
People did not tire of hearing from the Bulls about the Bulls. And then when they broke up, we were mad. We're like, why not run it back one more year? But I, I can't remember. I mean, I'd have to think about it. But even Boston, you know when the Celtics would go on the road back in the mid-80s and the 80s, 16, like, that was a true great team. When the Lakers went on the road, you're watching something that you had not seen. I don't think they were beloved. I. The Bulls were the Celtics and the Lakers, I think we were just fascinated. Look at that point guard, look at that center. Look at those uniforms. With Bird and the Celtics, there was a fascination there as well. But I just don't remember any other team being like that.
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Paulie
Yeah, Paulie, it's not an exact comp. But when people say the LA Dodgers are bad for baseball. No, they are not. Not for ratings, not for reach. With Ohtani, they're global. They're bad for your team's chances to win the World Series. They're not bad for the sport of baseball.
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Dan Patrick
And we're hearing those words. Salary cap. And then when I hear salary cap, I hear work stoppage. They tend to go hand in hand. Go back to 1994, the strike, the last time they were bringing up salary cap. Take a break. Talk to the CEO of the PGA Tour, Brian Rollat. Got a lot of things to talk to him about. And Nate Borgozzi will be in the final hour of the program. We're back after this.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Dan Patrick
because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
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Dan Patrick
I told him, whoa.
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Dan Patrick
It's a meat Friday, but Dylan wants to do a tableside Caesar salad. They do that, those high end steakhouses. I remember the Golden Steer in Vegas, wonderful place. They just opened one in New York, but they did the tableside Caesar salad. And that's what you're going to do here coming up.
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Dylan
Yeah, actually. And I saw a video of one of the guys at Golden Steer on Instagram where they asked him how many Caesar salads he's made in his life and he' like over 10,000.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, well, also Banana Foster, they're famous because Sinatra always wanted banana fosters. That was his dessert. Yes, Dylan.
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Dylan
Yeah, we actually, when we were in New Orleans for the super bowl, some of us went to Brennan's, which is a famous restaurant down there. They actually invented the Bananas Foster and they do a tableside, you know, flambe and everything.
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Dan Patrick
Is it flambe or flambe?
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Dylan
Probably flambe.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Dylan
But I'm an American. Dan?
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Dan Patrick
Yes, Paul?
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Paulie
Dylan brought this up the other day when we were talking steaks. If someone takes you out to dinner or the host, do you not order something more expensive than what the host orders?
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Dan Patrick
Out of respect, you're supposed to not order something more expensive than the host. I've been led to believe that you can't go like market price on everything that you're going to order. There you know what, Todd?
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Todd
What if the host doesn't get an appetizer, but you really wanted to get salad or soup or something. Calamari.
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Dan Patrick
I know that you have no decorum. Like you don't care.
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Todd
I try to do the right thing.
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Dan Patrick
No, you do not.
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Todd
Why is no one getting an appetizer? I'd like the calamari and the lobster bisque if you can get both of those.
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Dan Patrick
Yes.
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Dylan
Dylan, there's nothing worse than going out to eat with people you're not maybe super close with. And you're like, well, I guess I'm gonna figure out what to order after the person orders first. Like, you're gonna see what they get and be like, okay, I'll get a steak too. You know, like. Or am I getting the chicken?
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Dan Patrick
Oh, I usually don't take social cues from what somebody else orders.
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Dylan
Really?
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Dan Patrick
No, no, no. Like, well, I'm using pain. Yes.
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Brian Rolapp
So that's different.
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Paulie
You're an island.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, there he is. Brian Rola is the PGA Tour CEO joining us on the program. I apologize for our stupid discussion there. Let me start out with maybe what sounds obvious. What's the biggest hurdle facing the PGA Tour? Brian?
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Brian Rolapp
I think the biggest hurdle is how we take this momentum and this popularity we have around the sport of golf and around the PGA Tour and turn that into long term, sustained success and stability. So a lot of the work we're doing is not only make it better for fans, both golf fans and sports fans, but also build something that has lasting power in a world that's changing all the time.
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Dan Patrick Show Promo
That.
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Brian Rolapp
That's. And I don't think that's just a PGA Tour challenge. I think that's a challenge for. For anybody in the sports business, quite frankly.
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Dan Patrick
Sir, Anything positive that Live Tour did for the PGA Tour.
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Brian Rolapp
Yeah, I've said this. I think, you know, competition makes everybody stronger. I think, you know, there was this a bit of a narrative around that live was in competition. It was. It was competing for people's attention and time and certainly competing for players before I got here. But I. I've said it often. This. It was a little bit of golf had their AFL NFL moment. They just had it late. And is the NFL better because of the AFL NFL moment? I think so. I don't think it's the modern NFL without it. So I don't know enough about the ABA NBA history, but there's probably a parallel there to be drawn. So I think. I think they got that right and sort of push the PGA Tour to get better. So, yeah, I think that has had a lasting impact.
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Dan Patrick
If you look at it, I don't know if the Formula one model can work in golf where everybody is showing up, the best are showing up at each event, but how close can you get to that?
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Brian Rolapp
I think we can get close. I think we're working hard on it, and we'll have more to say about this in. In less than a month. But it's clearly what fans want. This is not a sport, and we're not a tour where we're going to put guys under contract. It's not in their DNA. It's not how it's built, and I think that's okay. But I do think we can create a competitive model where the best show up and they show up because they want to play against the best and that they're working towards a post season that awards the best. So I think we get getting close. Will we have a model where every single player is in every single event? I don't think so. I don't think we need that. I think we'll have. We'll have a set of really compelling tournaments where almost all the top 120 guys show up and they're competing in a competitive model that's a lot easier to understand than today.
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Dan Patrick
Talking to Brian Rolapp, the PGA Tour CEO, I've said this for years where I thought the Masters could say, we're going to give you a golf ball to use when you come here to play. So, and you know how many of these courses around the world that you know, distance, technology, equipment, and I don't know what input the PJ Tour has if, let's say, Augusta says if you come there, you got to use our golf ball, if any power over them.
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Brian Rolapp
Well, I mean, I think you're getting to the golf ball debate, which is really a debate about distance and even a finer point on it, it's a debate about distance off the tee, I think, is what really people are talking about. And this is a debate I've learned since I've been here, not even quite a year, and I'm still learning. I think there's two big questions facing the golf world. One, is distance a problem? And when we say the golf world, I really mean professional golf. Is distance a problem? Is it not good for the game? Is it ruining the game? Is it making courses obsolete? Or whatever you want to pick? That's open question number one. And open question number two is, if it is, does impacting the golf ball solve that problem? And I think depending who you Talk to in the golf world, the answer to those questions are in open debate. I think on one hand you've got courses that are shorter and older, and on the other hand you have these athletes who keep getting better every, every year. And, you know, that's great to see. And I think there's some people on the side of the debate who say that's not what golf should be. I think there's other people on the side of the debate who said that's exactly what golf is. And you know, you don't make it the 110 meter dash because Usain Bolt's really fast. And so I think it's very much an open debate. I think what's really interesting, Dan, is who have very strong feelings about it are the guys who are doing this every day, which are the professional golfers and they are, since I've been here, are inserting themselves in this debate a little bit stronger than I think I've seen historically. But I think is, I think it's, I think it's better for the golf world to have one set of rules. What makes it so great is, you know, you and I could go out here on 18 at TPC Sawgrass and spend all day trying to replicate Cam Young's 375 yard tee shot in the Players Championship and never do it. And you gain an appreciation for that because you're playing with the same equipment under the same conditions. So I think we'll see. I think this debate's far from over, but I think everyone's trying to do the right thing.
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Dan Patrick
We like to see things that we've never seen before. We like to be fascinated, like Wemby, Steph Curry. And you need personalities. I look at Mike Trout with the Angels. He was the best player in baseball, but people said, well, he has no personality. Scotty Scheffler is not Tiger woods in personality in draw, but results might be. So I don't know how, how can you as the CEO encourage or bring out personality? And if, how much would that move the needle?
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Brian Rolapp
I think it, I mean, I think it could move the needle. You know, people do love sports. Analy sports personalities in sports. Whether that's the loud guy, whether that's the guy who just goes about doing his business quietly. I mean, that runs the gamut in sports. I do think professional golf we can do better telling the stories. There's this, I think there's this been this false narrative around the sport of golf that a tournament or a competition only matters if four guys are in it and you could probably name the four guys or five guys and whatever. Everyone's list is similar. When the reality is you look at any given professional golf tournament on a weekend and the difference in winning or losing is a stroke or two over four days. And the competitive parity of the sport of golf is incredible. As good as Scotty is, Scotty can't win every week. That's how much competitive parody there is out there. I think we have to do a better job telling the stories about that and I think we have to do a better job in our telecasts, in our social media content about telling the stories and showing the personalities of these guys, because there's quite a bit and you never see it. One thing we did do when I was here about a month and a half and I called the NFL films guys and I said, hey, you know what we did for Hard Knocks for decades? Why don't we try it at the Players Championship, come down and mic these guys, follow them around for four days and see what we get. And it resulted in a show called Chasing Sunday, which is, you could watch it on YouTube. But it is a Hard Knocks look at the Players Tournament or Players Championship and you see personalities like you in a way you've never seen before. And so I think we just have to do things like that to let people know who these guys are because they're pretty extraordinary.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And I was going to ask you about that. Trying to bring the NFL to the PGA Tour.
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Brian Rolapp
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
How can you do that?
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Brian Rolapp
Well, look, the NFL is one of one like you don't. I mean, I think in this job it would be a mistake to say everything we did, the NFL is going to work at the PGA Tour. Or even to say that professional football and professional golf are the same thing. They're not, they're different. And, and that's a good thing. That's great. But I do think there are things we learned at the NFL that I was part of that I think we can bring to professional golf. I think what we're talking about is, you know, at the NFL we obsessed about the competitive product, like how do you make it better on the field? And not only do you just think non stop about making the game better, making the game better, honoring tradition, but not being overly bound by it. But not only just do that once, but constantly do that. And we change rules every year for the, for the benefit of the sport. And I think that can help here. I think so. This, this commitment to innovation and just thinking like a fan and thinking about the product. I think we're going to do more of that here. I think about how you present the sport on television and media. We obsessed about that and not only just when the game was on, but also during the week and in the off season. And that's some of the things we're talking about. And so I think, you know, some things we're talking about, when we talk about the personality of the players, I think that's something we can do. But, you know, we, we were, you know, we had a great saying at the NFL is only the paranoid survive. And I think that just means you got to keep, keep changing, keep innovating. And I think we're trying to bring a little of that here.
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Dan Patrick
Can we do something about the piped in bird sounds? Brian, Come on.
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Brian Rolapp
Honestly, I don't know a ton about the P I, I, I, I don't even know if that's a real thing.
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Dan Patrick
Just listen to the Quail Hollow coverage. And there was a bird that followed the leaders the entire round.
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Brian Rolapp
Listen, you got to ask the guys in the truck about that. I, I don't, I don't know about.
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Dan Patrick
You're a big CEO. You got power. I don't.
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Brian Rolapp
Listen, there's some things I don't understand. I don't, I, I don't get in the production truck. And I, I don't know, you know, the bird population in Charlotte, North Carolina either. So I do have limits to what I can do.
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Dan Patrick
The galleries, issues, I know we, we have waste management, we encourage that. But issues with, and gambling, you know, it's a, it's a vocal, everybody knows prop bets, you know, people are vocal there. People get angry too.
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Brian Rolapp
Yeah, I think this is an issue for all sports. Any sport you go to, there's a, there, there's a fan code of conduct. Right. And maybe it varies from sport to sport based on the tradition and, and everything else. But golf should be no different. I mean, people, people should cheer and be excited, but there's going to be a line of inappropriate behavior that, you know, shouldn't be tolerated. And that's no different than a football game or baseball game or anybody else anywhere else. And I also think the issue of, of gambling and sports and integrity of the sports has been an issue. And let's, let's, let's be honest, an issue way before sports gambling was legal in this country. I mean, this is old as time. And so I think you just have to be really diligent about those things and being willing to enforce it because bad fan conduct or much, much worse. Gambling scandal is the first thing that could negatively impact sports. And so listen, I think there's always a line there. And I think, you know, sports organizations should be always prepared to enforce whatever that fan conduct is.
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Dan Patrick
What's your golf handicap?
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Brian Rolapp
Not good. Well, you know, I'll tell you. Worse, Worse since I took this job, I actually play a lot less golf in this job than I did before. I actually made this rule when I got here is that I wouldn't play golf for work because that's probably a pretty good rule anywhere you go. But in this industry, you know, everybody wants to have a meeting. They're like, let's go play golf and have a meeting. I'm like, well, why don't we just have the meeting and give me my four hours back because golf is for like, what I do with my, my boys and my girl on the weekends. So it's, it's gotten worse. But I, at some point, I'll come up rare and work on it a little bit.
- [38:44]
Dan Patrick
If you play golf against Roger Goodell, who wins?
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Brian Rolapp
Oh, I think Roger beats me. He's really good. He's good. I've never, I've never played with him. But, but he, he's certainly been playing longer than I have. And he's a, he's a, he's a pretty good player. He's too modest. He won't brag about it. He's a good golfer.
- [39:01]
Dan Patrick
Well, maybe he's taking those meetings on the golf course.
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Brian Rolapp
No, that, that, he doesn't. You know, he doesn't. I worked with Roger long enough to know. Yeah, he works hard and so I don't, I don't think he, he spends a lot of time on the golf course.
- [39:18]
Dan Patrick
Great to catch up with you, Brian. Good luck in the job. Thanks for joining us.
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Brian Rolapp
All right, Dan, great to see you. Thanks for having me.
- [39:24]
Dan Patrick
Brian Rolap, PJ Tour CEO how about we take a break? Who had the best week in sports? More of your phone calls coming up right after this.
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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.
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Brian Rolapp
What's the news, Nick? Huge news.
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Jonas Brothers Member Nick
We created our own podcast called hey Jonas.
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Jonas Brothers Member Nick
Well, we didn't invent it.
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Caller M
We.
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Jonas Brothers Member Nick
We just contributed to First People to do podcasts. Pretty. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts, but this one's extra special.
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Brian Rolapp
So how did we. How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas?
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Jonas Brothers Member Nick
Guys, I honestly don't remember.
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Brian Rolapp
I think it was on a call about what we should call it and we were thinking.
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Jonas Brothers Member Nick
I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes, I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a bit for the podcast. People could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey Jonas. And offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that. Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the
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We don't care where you hear it.
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Dan Patrick
And our grills are fired up outside. Powered by Rec Tech wood fired grills. Learn more at recteq.com who had the best week in sports? Todd, let me start with you.
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Todd
I'm going to give it to the Las Vegas. You're in Las Vegas.
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Brian Rolapp
Vegas sweeping the abs.
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Todd
The President cup champions. That is quite impressive and deserves that acknowledgment.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, Dylan.
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Dylan
My best week in sports. Is everyone not named Jannik sinner at the French Open. The road to the championship just got a lot easier yesterday as he lost in catastrophic fashion.
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Dan Patrick
And Alcaraz isn't playing. And he could have completed the career grand slam, I believe. Yep. Oh, boy. Marvin.
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Dan Patrick
Paul.
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Paulie
I'm gonna go with Shrey Parik, 14 year old from California who won the Scripps National Spelling Bee last night. He won in a 90 second spell off tiebreaker, which I had never seen before.
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Dan Patrick
Was this like a shootout?
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Paulie
Exactly. It was a shootout at the end.
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Dan Patrick
Are you allowed to ask for origin?
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Paulie
No, it's word, spell, word, spell. And as a clock. So he spelled, spelt or spelled. He spelled 32 words in 90 seconds.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, boy.
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Paulie
I couldn't spell 32 words in an hour.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, that's impressive. But they know the words that you're going, there's probably 500 words. And they study those words. Remember when we had Samir Patel, who won the spelling bee contest?
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Paulie
A legend.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Like 15 years ago, 20 years ago. And I said, spell Shashevsky, A.J. persinski. Like he couldn't spell those. Now, I know those are names, but, you know, we were asking if you. How well can you spell like Chris Fuamatu? Follow. He couldn't even come close. Yes, Paul.
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Paulie
According to the Scripps National Spelling Bee, the official study guide that all competitors get at all levels, the words of champions. It's called 4,000 words you have to look through.
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Dan Patrick
So I was off by a few thousand couple. Yeah. Levi in Utah. Hi, Levi. What's on your mind today? Adc.
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Caller Dustin
Second time, long time. I'm just curious what you and the guys have as your biggest pet peeve from callers.
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Dan Patrick
I would say when you go on too long, and I equate it to giving a best man speech, you think what you're saying is really interesting when just get to the point that's less is always better. I've never been at a wedding where I go, man, that best man speech was short. Yes, Todd.
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Todd
How about when they ask you, how's it going today? How you doing?
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Dan Patrick
Well, that's why we would always say, you don't have to ask me, I'm doing great. I'm doing this. Phil in Iowa. Hi, Phil. What do you have for me?
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Caller Phil
132. Regarding the poll question. I think comedy, the instant gratification that comes with it, is really hard to beat. But like, as a parent teaching, like just the fulfillment that comes with that is way, way better than comedy. But I also wanted to thank you guys. Being on the show a few times has helped with my fear of public speaking. So much so that I was able to knock out an open mic in Des Moines. And the transitioning wasn't quite there. But as I was walking off the stage, I got a few crickets. But I was thinking, like, man, surely like Todd Fritz can't feel like this five days a week, right?
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Dan Patrick
But he does. Congratulations on that, Phil. I have problems with public speaking. Believe it or not. I don't know what it is. I don't know if speaking into a microphone. But first, it's weird. It's weird. And my wife keeps bringing this up about my speech at my daughter's wedding reception. She goes, you speak to millions of people. I said, but I don't know them. This is my daughter. It's different. Dustin in Alabama. Hi, Dustin.
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Caller Dustin
Dan. Fellas, question for you. We live in a beach town down here, Gulf coast Alabama. So we hightail it on big holiday weekends. Last weekend, Friday, we had about four hours north to the lake and my 16 year old son who just started driving in January drove us. That was probably the most nerve wracking trip I've ever taken with my, you know, five months, newly licensed driver. Did you guys have any experiences like that with your kids when they first started driving on a long trip?
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Dan Patrick
Oh, I didn't let him drive on a long trip. But going out with them and usually going to a parking lot at the mall or a school and you want to, there's no break on your side, but you push down anyway. But you know, there, there's. It's sensory overload with kids now. Like they're, they're so used to music, check your phone. They're talking to somebody and you really have to get tunnel vision with them. And that, that was the biggest challenge is just focus on that. Nothing else, just that. And I remember we, we took out, I mean, I'd have cones there. I mean we, if cones were spectators. My daughter was a mass murderer because we were banging into everything there. And I said, it's okay. These are cones. It's the other things that you know, when they're buildings and other cars, that's what you have to worry about. Final hour on the way. On this meet Friday, Nate Borgazzi set to join us. Fritz, he promises he let us down a couple of days ago.
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Todd
He'll be here.
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Dan Patrick
More of your phone calls as well. And a big reveal with our meet Friday. Fritzi, Dylan, Marv, Poly, yours truly. Final hour, right after this.
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