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Bob Pittman
Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like chairman and CEO of Elf Beauty, Tarang Amin, legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel. Being a rock star is very fun, but helping people is way more fun. And Damian Maldonado, CEO of American Financing. I figured out the formula. I just have to work hard. Then that's magic. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and Magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Mary Kay McBrayer, host of the podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. This season explores women from the 19th century to now. Women who were murderers and scammers, but also women who were photojournalists, lawyers, writers and more. This podcast tells more than just the brutal, gory details of horrific acts. I delve into the good, the bad, the difficult and all the nuance I can find because these are the stories that we need to know to understand the intersection of society, justice and the fascinating workings of the human psyche. Join me every week as I tell some of the most enthralling true crime stories about women who are not just victims, but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is Fighting Words?
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Gino Oriemma
Okay, I'll put the hammer back.
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Bob Pittman
Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a best selling author with most banned book in America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back. Part of the power of black queer.
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Gino Oriemma
Creativity is the fact that we got us.
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Bob Pittman
You know, we are the greatest culture makers in world history. Listen to Fighting words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious.
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Gino Oriemma
He was out of his mind and.
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Bob Pittman
He wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. Listen to Divine intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You feeling this too is a horror anthology podcast. It brings different creators to tell ten vile. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Grotesque. Oh my God. Horrific stories on what scares them the most. Please go lefty. You feeling this too? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio Hour 2 on this Monday. Hope you had a great weekend. Gangs all here ready to go. Gino Oriemma. The Yukon women's team just won another national championship. He'll join us. Coming up, Dan Hurley, who is technically still the two time defending head coach of the Yukon Huskies until tonight when Florida and Houston meet. Florida favored by one tip off 8:50 Eastern Time. Plan accordingly. 8773- DP-SHoSHEM Email Address DP danpatrick.com Twitter handle @DPoSHoSH will be at the NFL draft. A lot of people with a lot of questions. We'll try to answer those. We'll be at the bar on Homegren Way, located about three blocks from Lambeau, famous for their wings. And we will be there Wednesday, Thursday, Friday doing the show. And there's no tickets. It just you show up and we'll get as many people in to watch the show as we can. And then there's a meet and greet that Wednesday night from 4 to 6 and you can stop by as well. Once again, first come, first serve. But I'll be there with all the Danets. We'll take questions from the audience and it'll be great to say hello to our fans in greenback. All right, poll question for hour two is going to be what seat? No, Connor. Well, we had up there hour one. Who had the best weekend? Alexander Ovechkin, Kelvin Sampson or UConn women basically. Paige Beckers and Gina Aurora. Ovechkin's got 54% of that vote. Kelvin Sampson only 18%. I feel like that should be seen as a bigger win for him. But well, I think he's got some baggage as well. So maybe you're not going to get a. Not exactly an embraceable coach with some of the other things that have happened. But man, they played hard. They did not lose their composure and he, he's been here before now he hasn't won a national title, but he's been here before and you saw that they played as if they had their composure and Duke did not. Game on the line. Big moments and Duke lost that game. They collapsed. But Houston took advantage. You know, teams Collapse all the time. But you have to take advantage of that. And that's what Houston did. Houston made big plays, made big shots. They're tough, too. Yeah, they are, but they, you know, that's emblematic of how Kelvin Sampson coaches. And I wondered when we were making predictions on Friday, I thought Auburn was going to win, and they were leading there for a while. And then all of a sudden, Florida decided, you know what? Oh, that's right. We have Walter Clayton Jr. Let's just give him the ball. And then I thought Houston would keep it close. They were five and a half point underdogs, and it looked like they were going to get blown out. And there it was, just a moment. Like, it's just one of those where you go, wait, what just happened? And part of it was in slow motion, another part of it was so quick. It's like, wait a minute, how did they get to this point? And then all of a sudden, everything felt in slow motion. With Duke, you. You're missing shots, you're not rebounding. You can't get the ball in. Cooper flag has the ball in the lane. And these are little things, but when you have a shot, you must always, if you're gonna take the shot, make sure that you put a little extra on it. Because if it's short, it's never going in. If it's long, at least you might get a, you know, friendly carom or somebody else gets a rebound. He kept it short. And give Houston credit. They. They did what they were supposed to do when they were supposed to do it. Stat of the day, brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. A couple of phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Download the app if you haven't done so. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country, over 400 cities that carry the program. So tonight, Florida and Houston, 8:50 Eastern, tip off. Alex Ovechkin passes Gretzky and. And, oh, by the way, the Toronto Blue Jays gave Vlad Guerrero Jr. $500 million. I didn't know they were going to get this deal done. I thought that maybe there's a chance that he plays elsewhere, but you lock him up for 14 years. And that's. That's the new style of contracts here. You know, you figure a player might get tired of playing in a place, or maybe a team might get tired of the player 14 years. A long time. I mean, that's a marriage. I don't even know. What is the average length of a marriage?
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Gino Oriemma
Want to play? Want to guess that?
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Bob Pittman
I have no idea. The average length of a marriage in the United States. You guys, any guesses here? Marvin, how long do you think the average marriage lasts in the United States? Eleven years. Eleven. Okay, Todd.
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Gino Oriemma
Six and a half.
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Bob Pittman
All right, Seaton. I'm gonna say closer to 15. 15. I'm gonna go. The average marriage last five years, according.
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Gino Oriemma
To a number of research sites. In 2018, they did a study, and the average length of a first marriage for individuals In America was 21 years. 21 years. Dang.
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Bob Pittman
I thought the divorce rate was, like, under 50% or something like that.
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Gino Oriemma
Checking.
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Bob Pittman
Or maybe it was over 50%. Yes, Martin, after a certain amount of years, you just say, fine, I'll just stay. Is that what you're saying? No, no, not me. Of course not. Of course not. The guy who had no reason why his marriage had lasted. Right. When I said, oh, we're. We're giving marriage advice, and then came to you, and you didn't have any advice, Not a single word of advice for that gentleman. Have a sense of humor. Have patience. Yes. Marvin, if you have kids, you two are a team against the kids.
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Gino Oriemma
Yeah, against.
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Bob Pittman
Yeah, they're not. Not on our team. Do you think you're making it any better than what you were saying? Yes. Okay. All right. You're just keeping it real is what you're doing. So, Gino Oriema is set to join us, the freshly minted head coach of the national champion Yukon Huskies. Did you forget about this feeling? Did you remember what it was like to win a national title?
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Gino Oriemma
Almost. You know, we have those moments as senior citizens. You know, you ought to know so. But it didn't take long to remember, though. Never ceases to amaze me the. The feeling that you have when. When you watch those faces, and it's just really, really unbelievable.
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Bob Pittman
But take me back to preseason, and you said that the girls, they lost a scrimmage.
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Gino Oriemma
Yeah, we did. We did.
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Bob Pittman
And is that where you go home and you say to your wife, oh, my God, I don't know what we have here. We may not even make the tournament.
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Gino Oriemma
Well, it's exactly what we say. We said, I hope we make the NCAA tournament this year. You know, is. We didn't take it seriously. You know, we. We kind of. Everybody thought, yeah, we're going to be good because, you know, we're healthy. We got everybody back. But it was A. It was a good reminder, but it was. It was a struggle throughout, I would say, November, December, trying to find some consistency. We would have it, lose it, have it, lose it. And I think it wasn't until we got back from South Carolina, the first time when we played so well, that we actually understood, all right, this is what the level is. This is who we can be. And that's when it all changed.
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Bob Pittman
Is it a grind?
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Gino Oriemma
Oh, yeah.
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Bob Pittman
Oh, yeah. But is it a different kind of, let's say, 15 years ago, similar kind of grind?
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Gino Oriemma
A little different. I think a little different. It being that the players I'm coaching today are way more challenged, they're way more distracted, They've got way more voices in their head. They've got way too much information coming at them from all sources of people. Things that. It's hard to make your voice really be, you know, the voice like, you know, when you played, like your coach said, you know, today's Wednesday. You go home and tell, hey, mom, today's Wednesday, man. No, it's not. It's Monday. Coach said it's Wednesday today. What's your coach say today? I don't know. I wasn't listening. I mean, that's. It's just a little bit harder right now, man.
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Bob Pittman
But you're not dealing. You know, we hear the men's coaches talking about transfer portals. Nil.
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Gino Oriemma
Yeah.
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Bob Pittman
How prevalent is that for you? On a daily, weekly, monthly basis?
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Gino Oriemma
No, I don't deal with it. On a daily, weekly, monthly basis. No. We don't have somebody on our staff that's calling AAU coaches and handlers and all that, you know. You know, is your kid interested? Hey, tell them we're interested, like a lot of schools do. No, we don't deal with that. We just coach our team. We know at the end of every year because we get pretty good players. And if they don't all play as much as they want, those days, I'll wait my turn. Those are gone, you know, so we know that the end of every year, some kids already halfway out the door when they realize, I'm not getting the time that I thought I was going to get. And it's like, you know, we understand we might lose a couple every year, but there's a couple kids that want to come every year. What makes it hard is in the NBA, they have a free agency period of time. This is when you can talk to free agents. This is when you can sign them, blah, blah, blah. Our free agency is the whole year, and Every kid there's 365 Division 1 schools, plus Division 2. Every kid's a free agent every day, the whole year. I, I, it's just, and then the portals open during the NCAA tournament. Can you imagine the NBA playoffs and free agencies going on during the playoff? I mean, it's insanity. So, but luckily, we don't have to deal with it as much as obviously, it's happening on the gas and the money. Don't even get me started on the money. Some of the money that I hear programs have to spend. And now, obviously it's football and men's basketball to drive this, but it's out of hand, man. It's out of hand.
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Bob Pittman
What was your pregame speech?
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Gino Oriemma
Was my pregame speech? Probably, you know, the same as it was the previous three games that we just won. You know, we, we, we. This was our fourth game, you know, two and two. I, I like to talk about how many. This one was really good. I like this one because I said, you know, this is our 24th final four, and our record in the Final Four before last night was 11 wins, 12 losses in 23 Final Fours. I said, so I'm the winningest coach in the history of college basketball, but I have a losing record in the Final Four. I said, but when I'm introduced at some events, I, you know, they go, and ladies and gentlemen, Gino Oriemma. Know he's lost 12. I said, they don't do that. They say, you know, you know, where EM's won 11 national champions, so, you know, nobody gives a damn about who loses. They just care about winning, so why worry about losing? Because nobody cares. So I think the thing that I always try to do is try to make them understand to not be afraid to lose, because that's what gets in the way of teams winning. And especially at this, this point in time in the season when your whole, you know, career is riding on it, the fear of losing is just so powerful. And I think it's my job to try to diffuse that as much as.
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Bob Pittman
I can at any point during that nine year. Maybe it's not fair to say drought, but for you it would be. But did you at any point doubt yourself of, am I still able to motivate them? Am I losing it or, you know, any kind of concerns about you and your coaching?
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Gino Oriemma
Yeah, yeah, of course, because, well, a couple of things. We went to 15 straight Final Fours, but we didn't win after number 11. We didn't win the next four or five years. You know, six years out of those nine years that we didn't win. We went to the Final Four eight times and we were never healthy. I shouldn't say six of those times, we were never healthy. So I kept saying, you know, when we get healthy, we'll be fine. But I gotta tell you, Dan, I'll be brutally honest. There was so many times when I would go home and I would say, I don't think I'm as good a coach as I used to be. I don't think as able to do what these players need in today's world. I, I don't know that I can do that. Which is crazy because we're going to the Final Four every year. But does creep into your mind when it's. You're having all these things thrown at you. This injury, that injury, this key players out, that one's out for the season. You know, it. Yeah. It really, really, really made me question, am I still the right person to be doing this at this time in my career at a place like UConn, where championships is the standard?
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Bob Pittman
And you know how this works. We get to a certain age and people go, oh, how much longer are you going to do it? You know, oh, you know, be a great time to retire you just when you walk off. Only, I mean, so how do you deal with this? Just because I decided in three years I'm retiring, I just said, I, I have to mark, this is when I'm going to retire or I, I don't think I would retire.
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Gino Oriemma
Is that five years ago. You, you made that commitment a year.
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Bob Pittman
And a half ago. I said I would retire. I gave the date I was going to retire.
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Gino Oriemma
Good for you.
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Bob Pittman
Okay. But I, I needed to do it because I. There's other things I needed to do. And to be fair with my family and my wife, have you had those discussions of. And I don't know if there's anything else that you want to do, because maybe you're like, you know, coaches coach till they die. It's like, this is what I want to do. This is all I know. I don't know if you're wired that way.
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Gino Oriemma
No, no, I, no, I don't know why I still do it. Be honest with you. Most people my age have enough sense not to do it. And I, I think one thing that helps me, Dan, like when I get back to school and whatever recruiting has to be done or whatever I would say by the time May comes around, I don't give basketball a thought until next September, I get. I just walk away. I'm done. And luckily, I have a staff and I got a program that, that can do that. But I don't live it 24 7. I don't take it home with me. Like, the way, you know, a lot of these guys do, that just wears on them day after day. Now we have the. We have the privilege of, of doing that because of our success. I get it if you're grinding it out, trying to make the NCAA tournament every year, keep your job, but I'm not in that situation. If I was, I would have got out a long time ago. So, you know, I'm able to put it away. And, and there's so many other things that I would love to do. You know, let. When you retire, let me know, because I'll. I'll sit there and ask great questions like you do and make fun of people like you do. I would love to do that, however I got it. I got an email today from a friend of mine, Tom Sherman, play for. Play for Penn State, and he played for Joe Paterno, and he emailed me today, and he goes, Hey, 40 years at UConn. He goes, it's unbelievable. He goes, you know, Joe Paterno was at Penn State 64 years, so you can still catch up. And I thought to myself, you got to be kidding. 64 years?
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Bob Pittman
Yeah.
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Gino Oriemma
So, no, it'll be sometime before that, trust me.
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Bob Pittman
And I'll leave you with this, that you get your women to stay, you know, they're. They're there for years, so you, you develop a friendship, a relationship, whereas, you know, men's college coaches, if you're good, you know, it's a six month, you know, transaction here. Yeah, but you could see that where you. With Paige Beckers, you're watching her be this great player to being injured, to never winning a title. Now is your chance to win a title, then just being overcome by emotion, because it's real. It's like a daughter, I guess. I mean, you're. You're hugging a daughter of sorts in that moment, and you're kind of at a loss for words.
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Gino Oriemma
Correct.
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Bob Pittman
It was awesome, though.
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Gino Oriemma
Yeah, it is. It is. Because we do get them at a. At an age where they're very impressionable, so to speak, and they're 17, 18 years old. And we know if things go well, we do get them for four years. We do get to see them at the beginning, and then we get to see them at the end, and we get to see them when they're struggling, when they're. It is. It's like raising your Kids. And it's like all of a sudden, you send them off after a period of time. Yeah, if. If. If this was like men's basketball, there's no way I would even have close to 12 national championships. Diana would have been one and done. Stewie would have been one and done. Maya Moore would have been one and done. I can go on and on. Paige Beckers would have been one and done. All these guys. So the fact that I think we can. It goes back to the old days. It's like the way it used to be. You know, we. We get them young, and then we, you know, work with them. And it does create a bond that I think is missing in men's college. Basketball and football is a little bit better because those guys have to stay, you know, for about three years. But now the portals become, yeah, look, I'm here as long as I can get what I want. Otherwise, I'm out. And so the coaches feel like, okay, well, if this guy's going to walk out on me any day now, how. Why should I invest all of myself in him or her? I'm just going to coach you get what I need to get out of you. And if you leave, you leave. If you stay, you stay. That's fine. So it's really kind of created like a professional environment where we're just doing this Europe and. And this nonsense about. Well, they're not employees. Yeah, they are employees. We're paying them to play basketball for us. And when they don't like their job, they quit and go. Go work someplace else. So I'm lucky. I really am. I've got a great situation, and I know a lot of guys on the men's side envy it, and. And I feel bad for those guys.
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Bob Pittman
Congrats. Hair still looks great. And thanks for joining us. Yeah.
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Gino Oriemma
And, you know, I can't believe you're still doing this.
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Bob Pittman
I know.
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Gino Oriemma
I tell people all the time, you're one of the few guys in America that ask questions that are way shorter than the guy's answer, and I really appreciate that.
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Bob Pittman
I want a shot clock, Gino.
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Gino Oriemma
I like that.
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Bob Pittman
Brevity, brevity. Get to the point. That's it. Hey, congrats. Thanks for joining us.
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Gino Oriemma
Yeah, thanks for having us.
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Bob Pittman
That's Gino oriemma. He won 12 national titles there. Brings up a great point that is you get to keep your players. And he's right with one and doners that you. It's hard to sustain that greatness when you don't have that greatness. There for three or four years. We'll take a break. Back after this.
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Gino Oriemma
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports.
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Bob Pittman
Talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino Enriched live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kobe Nonrich wherever you get your podcast. And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich. I'm Camila Ramon, Peloton's first Spanish speaking.
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Gino Oriemma
Cycling and tread instructor.
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Bob Pittman
I'm an athlete, entrepreneur and almost most importantly a perreo enthusiast. And I'm Liz Ortiz, former pro soccer player and Olympian and like Kamiyah, a perreo enthusiast. Come on, who is it? Our podcast, Hasta Bajo is where sports, music and fitness collide and we cover it all, the Arriva Asta sit downs with real game changers in the sports world like Miami Dolphins CMO Priscilla Shumate, who is redefining what it means to be a Latina leader.
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Gino Oriemma
It all changed when I had this guy come to me. He said to me, you know, you're not Latina, first of all.
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Bob Pittman
What is that? My mouth is wide open. Yeah. History makers like the Sucard family who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy. It was a very special moment for us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally things are starting to shift into a different level. Listen to Astavajo on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner.
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Gino Oriemma
Of iHeart Women's Sports Network.
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Bob Pittman
Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast this Is Working can help with that. Here's advice from Google CMO Lorraine Twohill on how to treat AI like a partner. I see AI as an incredible copilot. You may use different tools or toys to get the work done, but ultimately, as editor, as creator, as maker, you own it and it needs to be good. AI is just the latest flavor of that. You're still the judge of what good looks like. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast this Is Working, leaders like Indra Nooyi, Ray Dalio, and Rich Paul share strategies for success and the real lessons that have shaped them. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Harry Houdini. Harry Houdini could make elephants disappear, walk through walls, and escape the Chinese water torture cell. But he was also on a mission against mediums. I have never seen one genuine medium. Join me, Tim Harford, for a Cautionary Tales trilogy on the world's most famous magician. It takes a flim flammer to catch a flim flammer. Houdini wanted the world to see reason in an age of spiritualism. He went undercover to seances, exposed fakes and charlatans, and even tried to convince Washington lawmakers to ban mediums for good, a campaign that cost him friends and made him many enemies. They're going to kill me. Listen to Cautionary tales on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Israel Gutierrez and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dub Dynasty, the story of.
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Gino Oriemma
How the Golden State warriors have dominated the NBA for over a decade.
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Bob Pittman
The Golden State warriors once again are NBA champions.
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Gino Oriemma
From the building of the core that.
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Bob Pittman
Included Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to one of the boldest coaching decisions in the history of the sport. I just felt like the biggest thing was to earn the trust of the players and let the players know that we were here to try to help them take the next step, not tear anything down.
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Gino Oriemma
Today, the warriors dynasty remains alive in.
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Bob Pittman
Large part because of a scrawny 6.
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Gino Oriemma
Foot 2 hooper who everyone seems to.
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Bob Pittman
Love for what Steph has done for the game. He's certainly on that like Mount Rushmore.
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Gino Oriemma
For guys that have changed it.
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Bob Pittman
Come revisit this.
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Gino Oriemma
Magical warriors ride this is Dub Dynasty.
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Bob Pittman
The Dubs dynasty is still very much alive.
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Gino Oriemma
Listen to dub dynasty starting April 8.
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Bob Pittman
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am A red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley. The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. Vehicle. No belongings were found except for a cassette tape Lodged in the player. On that tape were 10 vile. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Grotesque. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public until now. You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Gino Oriema brings up an interesting point about him winning 12 national championships. When you have that great player or great players, great teams, and you know that you're going to have them the following year and then the following year, it's a great luxury to have. And he acknowledges that because if you look at some of the great teams, recent memory go back to John Wooden. John Wooden had the luxury that Gino has now, and that is his players were staying. Bill Walton was staying. Lu Alcindor was staying. Marcus Johnson was staying. Gail Goodrich was staying. That's how you win championships. That's how you defend a national championship. And Gino's been able to do this. It's still amazing, though, a nine year and it's a drought. And Tom Brady had one of those where he didn't win a Super Bowl. And as he said, you start to have doubts about this because are you getting them over the hump? Are you, are you adding or are you subtracting? And sometimes you need to have somebody be honest with you to say, am I still connecting the way I need to? Because coaches, you know, your demands, it's different. You know, you're not the same when you're young and aggressive. Then all of a sudden it's like, you know, I got to separate. I got to get away from this for a little while to come back and get reinvigorated. But still, 12 national championships, greatest women's college basketball coach of all time, and he's got an unbelievable team coming back next year. That's why you come back and keep coaching. It's go. Why? Why would I walk away from this? Danny Hurley, the men's coach at UConn will join us coming up next hour. Let's go around the room. Best and worst of the weekend. Marvin, I'm going to start with you. Best and worst of the Weekend all right, DP we're going with obviously UConn freshman Sarah Strong, 24 points, 15 rebounds as Yukon completely killed South Carolina National Championship game Worst of the weekend the Denver Nuggets. I saw a little bit of this game. They lost the Indiana Pacers 125 to 120. The Nuggets have lost four straight games and I don't know if Jamal Murray is going to be available for the playoffs. And I said this after they won their NBA championship. Make sure you continue to surround Joker with great players or good players, complimentary players. Their bench helped them win an NBA championship and they didn't do that. And I don't think that they're going to win another championship with Joker and it won't be because of him. But you know, these other teams, they're young. You know, look at what Houston did with Golden State last night. Okc. They're really young. And I think, you know, you start to look at some of the other and the Lakers are Young. Aside from LeBron, the Lakers are a young team. But he does, if you're going to look at the curve, he certainly ups it up there. And you know, they blew out Oklahoma City last night. Like that's just one of those teasers where you go, God, when they do it right, they can beat anybody. It's just, can you be consistent to win four games out of seven games? That's always the key. Can you beat them at their place? And they roughed up okc. All right, Marvin, what else? I gave my best at worst. Oh, you both okay, my bad. Todd, how about you? We alluded to it earlier. Best of the week in Florida's Walter Clayton Jr. With the Gators leading by three in just over a minute left, Clayton hit a layup while getting fouled to put them up six game high. 34 points, five of eight from behind the arc, four boards, two assists. First play with back to back 30 point games in the Elite Eight and Final Four since Larry Bird back in 79. Worst of the Weekend I don't know if you heard this story. Golfer Ryan McCormick placed plastic tape over his mouth in an effort to shut himself up on the course during the club car championship in Savannah, Georgia, Friday. Said he tried about everything to control his anger management while on the course, hoping the tape would help his self control. Alas, he missed the cut. Yeah, tape on his mouth because he could not control himself. Seaton Best and worst of the weekend. Alex Ovechkin setting the record. Not just because he set the record, but because of the way that he did it. That was a hell of a goal, which I haven't watched a ton of hockey in the last. I don't know, his whole career, but apparently that was, like, very. Like. That was Ovechkin. That was a very Ovechkin, like, goal. And, you know, he. He was trying to get the record the either the night before, two nights before, where he could have had a hat trick but wasn't able to put one in. But to score like that, that was a hell of a goal. My worst of the weekend. Steph has three points in 33 minutes. What the heck is that? I don't. It's just, like, an anomaly that's worth bringing up, I think. Certainly not like an indication of the decline of his career, but three points in 33 minutes. And you know who else scored three points last night? Bronnie James. Better players, shifts passing. Yeah, that feels like. That's a Stephen A. Smith first take discussion. Better player right now in their careers. Bronnie or Stephen. I saw where Skip Bayless, desperate for attention, put out there that Cooper Flagg may lack the clutch gene. The kid is 18 years of age. Yeah, he may not have the clutch gene. How big is the sample size? You're gonna work on that? That he may not have the clutch gene? One shot. Yeah, he may not have it, but there's a. I had to laugh because Skip, he does his best to still try to stay in mainstream. He tries really hard. All right, Paulie. Best and worst of the weekend.
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Gino Oriemma
Best Houston Cougars for Joseph Tugler.
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Bob Pittman
Oh, the Tugler. Yeah, Fritz's old nickname. So he.
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Gino Oriemma
He had the tip dunk with 30 seconds left. He had a really good game help that steal late. Only four points, but that's one of those that doesn't show up in the stat book. Worst of the weekend. Good for Vlad Guerrero Jr. To get 400, 500 million dollars. But it's weird to announce it when after 10 games you're hitting.256 with no home runs. Can't you wait till he, like, parks a few and then announce it the next day? No offense.
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Bob Pittman
Yeah, well, good luck with that. Yeah. I won't be covering a majority of his career. I get three more years of Vlad Guerrero Jr. III, then that's it. Yeah, yeah. See, three years from now. Yeah. What do you think the biggest contract in sports will be? We're talking about all sports. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you have both, Connie. We're just so easily, like casting aside, like, yeah, 500 mil. Oh, good for him. That's cute. That's $500 million. It's an insane amount of money. What do you think in three years this will keep? Well, what's Otani's 700 million in the. I don't even remember. Yeah, 600 million. Yes.
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Gino Oriemma
Paul Victor Wembanyama will be up for a supermax in three years. 20, 28. So if you look at him and what a sure thing he is as a supermax, his potential average per year contract would be around 90 million based off the progression of supermax contracts in the NBA.
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Bob Pittman
Yeah, but he's not going to be making 700 million. He might make 400 million.
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Gino Oriemma
Yeah, 450.
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Bob Pittman
But the per year average could be.
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Gino Oriemma
The highest in sports. But yeah, total.
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Bob Pittman
No. Oh, well, the NBA players, you know, you're going to have somebody making close to 100 million here in the next couple of years. Yeah, that's a good one, too. Wembanyama, he'd certainly be right at the top of that list. Well, Shea Gilgis Alexander is going to be probably the first guy to get up to 80 million. I'm thinking. God. This is why Cooper Flag, if Cooper Flag is Cooper Flag, if he's going to be legit, you know, great player, he's going to make a billion dollars. He'll have his rookie deal, then he'll do a supermax, and then he'll do a supermax after that. So let's do the math. 18, 22, 27, 28, 33, 34. So he might, he might get rookie deal, supermax. Supermax, and then maybe on the back end of that, a decent deal as well. You're gonna make a billion dollars. But I wonder how crowds react when somebody is going to make that kind of money. Let's say you make more than a. A million dollars every game and you're going to go out and see that player who's going to make a million dollars, but then he doesn't play. I, you know, I wonder when the crowd starts to go, you know, that's embarrassing. A mill. You're making 90 million, you'll make more than a million dollars per game. And how, you know, crowds react to that when you don't play. I mean, they already react to that. Yes, Martin, you took the words out of my mouth. They're already there. Yeah, let me see. Mike in New York. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today? Hey, thanks for taking my call. First time, long time, Grandpa Bob, 5. And what I wanted to comment on, the timing was perfect when you just brought up Cooper Flag. And whether he has the clutch gene or not is, you know, that could have been maybe close to being the best shot in Duke history. But he didn't make it. He's barely 18 years old and arguably the greatest shot in Duke history was the Leitner shot over Kentucky. He was almost 23. You know, it's the way of our world and college sports these days. Well, and that's why I brought up Cooper Flag in the expectation level and it was misconstrued. Maybe the message wasn't sent appropriately, that if he accomplishes what Kevin Love accomplishes, which is borderline hall of Fame worthy, I think people will be disappointed because he didn't live up to the hype. Now, Kevin Love was a. I think he was a surprise to a lot of people. Good player, turned out to be a great player and is a borderline hall of Famer, I would think. And that's where people thought I was. I was saying that Kevin Love has been a disappointment. Kevin Love overachieved, I get. Nobody can say he didn't have a good career. But I'm talking about the expectation level and Cooper Flag. I mean, you already have. Oh, does he have the clutch gene now? Granted it skip saying this and you know, I don't think he truly believes that. And it's kind of embarrassing to say that about an 18 year old that he may lack the clutch gene based off one shot because give me the other instances where he may not have the Cl. I mean, he's not LeBron where there are times when he didn't take a shot or didn't make the shot. I mean, there were times when Michael Jordan said to John Paxton, you take the shot or to Steve Kerr, you take the shot. People don't bring that up. Mike didn't take the biggest shot all the time. He deferred, which is being a smart player, an open shot for John Paxton or Steve Kerr, it worked. But the clutch gene at 18, it did make me laugh because I thought, oh my God, we can't go through another generational player where going to be questioning the clutch gene. That's what you think. All right, you're right. I'm not going to go through it. You know, Skip may outlive me, but I, I got three more years where I don't. No, he's always working out and he's, you know, he's always, you know, doesn't drink doesn't do anything. You know, he's going to outlive me. I'm going to take a break here. I'm going to take a break. We'll get some more phone calls coming up. Danny Hurley will join us. Coming up, Dan Hurley. Fritz, he keeps saying, I think it's Dan Hurley. I said, well, I've known him as Danny Hurley his entire life, but maybe I'll just say Coach Hurley. How's that? Yes, Todd, I would say he should go with Dan because if you're so concerned with being a little crazy, obnoxious and immature, whatever people are calling him when he has one of his outbursts, maybe you go with Dan instead of Danny. Less little boy kind of sound. Yes, Paul.
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Gino Oriemma
Yeah, that'll make us all forget it. It's Dan. Moving on.
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Bob Pittman
Take a break. Back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. In the iHeartRadio app, I'm Camila Ramon Peloton's first Spanish speaking cycling and tread instructor. I'm an athlete, entrepreneur and almost most importantly, a perreo enthusiast. And I'm Liz Ortiz, former pro soccer player and Olympian. And like, call me a pareo enthusiast. Come on. Who is it? Our podcast hastavajo is where sports, music and fitness collide and we cover it all, the arriba hasta sit downs with real game changers in the sports world like Miami Dolphins CMO Priscilla Shumate, who is redefining what it means to be a Latina leader.
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Gino Oriemma
It all changed when I had the this guy come to me, he said to me, you know, you're not Latina enough.
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Bob Pittman
First of all, what is that? My mouth is wide open. Yeah, history makers like the Sucar family who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy. It was a very special moment for us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally, things are starting to shift into a different level. Listen to Hasta ajo on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast this is Working can help with that. Here's advice from Google CMO Lorraine Tuhill on how to treat AI like a partner. I see AI as an incredible co pilot. You may use different tools or toys to get the work done, but ultimately, as editor, as creator, as maker, you own it and it needs to be good. AI is just the latest flavor of that. You're still the judge of what good looks like. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast, this is Working, leaders like Indra Nooyi, Ray Dalio, and Rich Paul share strategies for success and the real lessons that have shaped them. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Harry Houdini. Harry Houdini could make elephants disappear, walk through walls, and escape the Chinese water torture cell. But he was also on a mission against mediums. I have never seen one genuine medium. Join me, Tim Harford, for a Cautionary tales trilogy on the world's most famous magician. It takes a flim flammer to catch a flim flammer. Houdini wanted the world to see reason in an age of spiritualism. He went undercover to seances, exposed fakes and charlatans, and even tried to convince Washington lawmakers to ban mediums for good, a campaign that cost him friends and made him many enemies. They're going to kill me. Listen to Cautionary tales on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Israel Gutierrez and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dub Dynasty, the story of.
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Gino Oriemma
How the Golden State warriors have dominated.
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Bob Pittman
The NBA for over a decade. The Golden State warriors once again are NBA champions.
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Gino Oriemma
From the building of the corps that.
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Bob Pittman
Included Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to.
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Gino Oriemma
One of the boldest coaching decisions in the history of the sport, I just felt like the biggest thing was to.
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Bob Pittman
Earn the trust of the players and let the players know that we were here to try to help them take the next step, not tear anything down. Today, the warriors dynasty remains alive in large part because of a scrawny 6 foot 2 hooper who everyone seems to love for what Steph has done for the game. He's certainly on that, like Mount Rushmore.
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Gino Oriemma
For guys that have changed it. Come revisit this magical warriors ride.
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Bob Pittman
This is Dub Dynasty. The Dubs dynasty is still very much alive.
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Gino Oriemma
Listen to dub dynasty starting April 8.
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Bob Pittman
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am, a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley. The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found except for a cassette tape. Lodged in the player. On that tape were 10 vile.
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Gino Oriemma
No, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Bob Pittman
Grotesque. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public until now. You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you think Ovechkin's jersey would be worth? The one that he broke the record. Is that a million dollars? I'm not up on memorabilia. I mean, I have collected an awful lot in here, but I never collected to sell because there's certain ones, like I have an autograph of Tiger woods after he won the Masters one year, you know, but, you know, Kobe's jersey, All star jersey. That's. That's autographed to me. LeBron's. That's just an autograph. Tom Brady is an autograph to me. Marino autograph. Favre, Barry Sanders, Reggie Miller. I imagine Ovechkin. That'd be a million dollars. Yeah.
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Gino Oriemma
Paulie, this might be a dumb question, but is it Ovechkin's to sell? Does he himself keep it?
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Bob Pittman
And then. Yeah.
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Gino Oriemma
Okay. I wouldn't sure if the team had.
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Bob Pittman
Rights to it or the league had rights to it.
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Gino Oriemma
I don't know. I would assume it's his.
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Bob Pittman
I think that would be kind of in poor taste.
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Gino Oriemma
Yeah.
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Bob Pittman
If they said, hey, congrats, give me your jersey. Yes, Todd. Can he donate that to the Hockey hall of Fame? He's got making a lot of money. I know everyone would like an extra million, but is it better to put forever or if anyone ever breaks it in the Hockey hall of Fame or keep it yourself? I would keep that one. You can give them. I mean, okay, that's not the jersey you scored the game winner or the. The all time record. But you. Here's one that was before it or maybe the final goal of. Of his career, then you could put that in the Hockey hall of Fame. This one. That's yours. Yeah, see, I'm seeing that the estimate right now on the puck. 895. Yeah. To be worth somewhere between a hundred and two hundred thousand dollars. Okay. All right. So if I said you could have the puck or the stick. You can't have the jersey. Puck or stick. Todd, I think I'm gonna go stick. Okay. Seaton. I don't go with the puck. Marvin, stick.
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Gino Oriemma
Paul, love that we're playing pucker stick. I think stick bigger stage in your home.
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Bob Pittman
Yeah, but I think a puck. I have a better chance to display that if I bring in a hockey stick and my wife goes, what Are you doing? I don't know. I figured I'd like to put this up on a wall. Yes. Todd, is it. Find his keeper. So rock and let the goal go for the Islanders. Can he turn around and pick that puck up and pop that thing in his pocket? And it's his puck. Who's it belong to? Exactly. First one to grab it. I don't know how that works. I would think that he would be respectful. I think that's the first goal that Ovechkin has gotten against that goaltender. I think so. But I'm guessing. I'm guessing that they would just be respectful to Ovechkin and say, this is yours. Or he could say, you keep the stick and the jersey. I'm keeping this buck for the right price. You can have it back, though. Yes, Paul.
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Gino Oriemma
So Dylan, the graphics guy, just sent us an article from the New York Times, and Ovechkin was changing jerseys a couple times a game the past week or so to put those on the market for the chase. So it could be goal number this, goal number that, and the early estimates on the jersey from yesterday.
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Bob Pittman
The gold jersey is a million plus. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Rich in Athens. Hi, Rich. What's on your mind? All right, a little bit of a left turn here, but it's time to play everyone's favorite game. Would you rather the sports and food edition? I'm going to present two sports and food related scenarios, and you guys can choose your favorite. So scenario number one, Would you rather be in a skybox with Taylor Swift at the super bowl and your meal is a fancy five course steak dinner with cocktails? Or scenario two, would you rather play around at Augusta national with Jack, Gary and Tom Watson? And you get the normal Masters menu, you know, your pimento cheese, your egg salad or chicken sandwich, and you wash it all down with some Arnold Palmers and some John dailies? Okay. Todd, you want to be in the suite for Kansas City Chiefs game with Taylor Swift? Yes. Okay. Because you're not a golfer. What about you, Seaton? Probably rather be walking the course. All right, Marvin. Augusta. Yeah. Paul.
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Gino Oriemma
I stink at golf. It'd be disrespectful to play Augusta.
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Bob Pittman
You can walk. That's.
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Gino Oriemma
I. I would like to drive the cart for those gentlemen.
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Bob Pittman
Okay. They. You could drive and then you could say when you get to the green that you were gonna putt. Yeah. That's all.
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Gino Oriemma
That'd be fun.
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Bob Pittman
Yeah, you could do that. Definitely. Augusta. I mean, I. Once you're in the booth, the suite with Taylor Swift, like what happens? Like, hi. Hi. Really like your music. Okay, then that's it. I get, I get five hours with Jack Nicklaus, you know, on the course. Then you get to go in the grill room. I mean, come on, that'd be great. I remember we were in Portland and it was the Fred Meyer challenge, it was Pete Jacob, Peter Jacobson's charity tournament. And I remember we did the show out there and I was talking to him, he was playing his round of golf and he, he waves to me. So I'm doing my radio show, he waves to me to come out. We're on the golf course, 18th hole, he waves to me to come out and walk the final hole with Jack Nicholas and Arnold Palmer. So Pete Jacobson is playing with Arnie and Jack and all of a sudden he's waving to me. And then I went out there and did the, the last of the segment, walking up the 18th with Jack and Arnie. And then Arnie joined us right after that on the radio show. Final hour on the way, more of your phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. UConn men's basketball coach Dan Hurley will join us on the program. King of comedies here. Seton, Marv, Paulie, yours truly, and the BRGs back after this. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious.
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Gino Oriemma
He was out of his mind and.
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Bob Pittman
He wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. Listen to Divine intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast Math and stories from the frontiers of marketing. I'm having conversations with some folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like chairman and CEO of Elf Beauty, Tarang Amin, legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel. Being a rock star is very fun, but helping people is way more fun. And Damian Maldonado, CEO of American Financing.
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Gino Oriemma
I figured out the formula. Exactly.
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Bob Pittman
Have to work hard. Then that's magic. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and Magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Mary Kay McBrayer, host of the podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. This season explores women from the 19th century to now. Women who were murderers and scammers, but also women who were photojournalists, lawyers, writers and more. This podcast tells more than just the brutal, gory details of horrific acts. I delve into the good, the bad, the difficult, and all the nuance I can find. Because these are the stories that we need to know to understand the intersection of society, justice and the fascinating workings of the human psyche. Join me every week as I tell some of the most enthralling true crime stories about women who are not just victims, but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is Fighting Words.
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Gino Oriemma
Okay, I'll put the hammer back.
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Bob Pittman
Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a best selling author with a second most banned book in America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back. Part of the power of black queer creativity is the fact that we got us. You know, we are the greatest culture makers in world history. Listen to Fighting words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. What's up everyone? Julius Rippinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson. We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go. The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb. Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us. Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and J jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.