Hour 2 – Gerald McCoy, Seton’s Road Trip

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: Gerald McCoy, Seton’s Road Trip

Date: November 10, 2025
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show
Host: Dan Patrick, plus the Danettes (Paulie, Todd, Marvin, Dylan)
Guest: Gerald McCoy (NFL Network Analyst, former NFL star)

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Episode Overview

This hour delivers a classic blend of Dan Patrick Show: humor, NFL analysis, fan interaction, and travel tales. The main feature is a deep, energetic interview with six-time Pro Bowler Gerald McCoy, focusing on quarterback play, the MVP race, and defensive value in the NFL. The crew also debates the MVP and disappointing teams, shares their “Best and Worst of the Weekend,” fields compelling calls (including one on sports gambling’s dangers), and catches up with Seton on his cross-country van odyssey.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. Las Vegas Road Trip Preview & Pitbull Pact (02:54–05:13)

• Dan and the Danettes gear up for next week’s Formula One in Las Vegas, staying at the “Fountain Blue.”
• An ongoing bit: Would Dan go to a Pitbull concert? Only if Pitbull does the show first.
• Joking about event naming rights: “Super Week” in San Francisco, with humorous banter on sponsorship restrictions and custom T-shirts.

Quote:
"If Pitbull joins us on our show then I'll go to his show. Like we'll do a home and home." (Dan, 04:51)

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2. NFL MVP Poll Talk & Babe Ruth Conundrum (07:03–08:51)

• Poll: Who’s most deserving of NFL MVP — Drake May, Jonathan Taylor, or Other? Jonathan Taylor leads but Dan doubts a non-QB will win.
• Sidebar on Babe Ruth’s lone MVP and historical award rules.
• Debate on whether MVP repeat winners should be allowed now.

Quote:
"Babe Ruth was only eligible to win the American League MVP once because the award rules at the time prohibited repeat winners." (Dan, 08:28)

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3. NFL Weekend Recap – Disappointments & QB Talk (09:00–10:59)

• New poll: Who had the worst NFL weekend? Consensus: Buffalo Bills, with the Jags and Panthers also under scrutiny.
• In-depth on teams in quarterback limbo and the dangers of committing too early or late to young QBs.

Quote:
“You're going to have to have a difficult conversation there moving forward because I'm going to give you three or four years, four years at the most. I should know who you are after those four years.” (Dan, 09:39)

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4. Listener Calls: NFL Frustrations & Coaching Futures (11:05–13:52)

• Buffalo Bills fan asks: “What’s wrong with them?” Dan assures it’s early, but big-picture questions loom.
• Another caller (Mike) criticizes Ole Miss’s soft schedule and the fairness of ranking moves.

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5. NFL Gambling & Integrity Concerns (15:34–19:15)

• Caller Raymond raises alarm about the league’s close ties to gambling: “When the casino is also the owner of the league... that's how you get killed.”
• Dan acknowledges the risk but argues there are more safeguards than ever, especially with low-paid players being the most vulnerable to temptation.

Quote:
“I'm not surprised and I won't be surprised. I'm surprised when there isn't something kind of nefarious going on because there's so much money and the leagues are all in—like the moral compass is not pointing in the right direction. It's pointing towards the bank.” (Dan, 18:39)

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6. FEATURE INTERVIEW: Gerald McCoy on Quarterbacks, MVP, and Defense (24:40–43:11)

Advice for Jackson Dart’s Style of Play (25:03–28:19)

• Gerald warns Dart (Ole Miss QB) about being too aggressive running: “There’s a fine line between trying to make a play and a dangerous play.” Running QBs need to “know when to get down or out of bounds” for long careers.

Quote:
“If you want to do running back stuff, you have to deal with running back stuff.” (McCoy, 27:30)

Jonathan Taylor as MVP? (28:19–31:44)

• McCoy says Taylor could win MVP if the strong play and wins continue, especially in a lukewarm quarterback season:
  "If any year is the year to go win it, it's this year because there’s not any quarterback that’s like, wow…”

• Cites Taylor’s clear impact on team offensive success, arguing for value beyond stats.

Most Disappointing NFL Teams (31:57–34:03)

• Ravens and Bills pegged by McCoy due to unrealized expectations; both were Super Bowl favorites, now struggling to win divisions.

Pass Rush: Sacks vs. Pressures (38:18–41:39)

• Dan: Pressures/hurries are more important than sacks:
  “You can have a sack in a game and we might say, oh, man, he had a good game. We don’t watch the tape... you might affect 15 plays.”
• McCoy agrees, citing Aaron Donald and Maxx Crosby: “That’s what makes Max one of the best… He’s always disrupting something. It ain’t always who gets him on the ground.”

Quote:
“You are SMART. You know what, it's Monday, so I'm going to use an even bigger word. You are intelligent, my brother.” (McCoy praises Dan, 40:41)

Defensive Strategy and Quarterback Hits (34:10–37:15; 41:39–43:08)

• McCoy bemoans rule changes that soften the game:
  "The people who are making the rules haven’t been on the grass, when the game is being played."
• Importance of “interior rush” up the middle—why Aaron Donald and Warren Sapp are so valuable.

Quote:
"Tom Brady—he hated any quarterback—hates pressure in their face because that’s their window." (McCoy, 41:41)

Matthew Stafford: Is He a Hall of Famer? (37:15–38:18)

• McCoy: “Heck, yeah. Matthew Stafford is a Hall of Famer… a victim of arguably the greatest era of a string of quarterbacks.”

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7. Seton’s Road Trip Update (48:12–50:45)

• Seaton checks in from Morgantown, West Virginia (alma mater of dual-threat legend Major Harris).
• Admits a “scrape” with the Mako van; hopes their sponsor can “buff that right out.”

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8. Danettes’ Best and Worst of the Weekend (51:00–53:25)

• Todd: Wisconsin breaking a losing streak (best); Penn State, Iowa, Auburn (worst).
• Dylan: Hawaii Rainbow Warriors ATS record (best), Phoenix Rising loss (worst).
• Marvin: Jeremiah Smith of Ohio State (best), Virginia Cavaliers’ playoff hopes dashed (worst).
• Paulie: Wisconsin’s “ugly” win, USC’s emerging talent—but worries about their schedule strength.

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9. Upcoming: College Football Carousel (53:25–end of hour)

• Teaser: Dan heard the coaching offseason will be “like we’ve never seen before,” with big-name coaches possibly making surprise moves.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On non-QB MVPs:
  "If any year is the year to go win it, it's this year because there’s not any quarterback that’s like, wow…"
  — Gerald McCoy (28:23)

• On the NFL’s relationship with gambling:
  "The moral compass is not pointing in the right direction. It's pointing towards the bank."
  — Dan Patrick (18:39)

• On defensive stats:
  "Stop trying to be so—you so caught up in making the play, go disrupt stuff, you might not always make the play."
  — Gerald McCoy (40:51)

• Hidden gem:
  "If you want to do running back stuff, you have to deal with running back stuff."
  — Gerald McCoy quoting Aqib Talib (27:30)

• Classic DP humor:
  "If Pitbull joins us on our show then I'll go to his show… Like we'll do a home and home."
  — Dan Patrick (04:51)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:54 – Las Vegas/F1 Road Trip & Pitbull Pact
• 07:03 – NFL MVP Poll & Babe Ruth’s MVP History
• 09:00 – Most Disappointing NFL Teams, QB Dilemmas
• 15:34 – Call: NFL Gambling Problems
• 24:40 – Gerald McCoy Interview Begins
• 25:03 – Jackson Dart Advice / Running QBs
• 28:19 – Jonathan Taylor MVP Discussion
• 31:57 – Disappointing NFL Teams
• 38:18 – Pressures vs. Sacks, Defensive Line Wisdom
• 41:39 – Interior Pass Rush, Tom Brady Example
• 48:12 – Seton’s Road Trip/Mako Van Mishap
• 51:00 – Best and Worst of the Weekend
• 53:25 – Coaching Carousel Tease

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Takeaways

• Gerald McCoy offers sharp, passionate player insight and isn’t shy about criticizing rule changes, highlighting defensive impact, or championing non-quarterback MVP cases.
• The MVP race feels unusually wide open—Taylor has a shot if he remains explosive and the Colts win, but history isn’t on his side.
• Gambling concerns are increasingly valid in the NFL; Dan and callers both show skepticism about the moral direction of the game-owner-casino triangle.
• The Danettes maintain their signature chemistry: part sports, part banter, all relatable (especially with Seaton's “scrape” story).
• College football and NFL coaching rumors loom as the next big story.

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Transcript

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[Todd]

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[Dylan]

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[Dylan]

It is Friday night.

[Dan Patrick]

Probably not.

[Dylan]

Should we see if he can make it Thursday?

[Dan Patrick]

If. Okay here, I'll say this. If Pitbull joins us on our show then I'll go to his show.

[Paulie]

That's fair.

[Dan Patrick]

Like we'll do a home and home. I like that. Okay. But yeah, I don't know if I could take all the excitement with a Pit bull show. But I'd be open to it if I went to see Britney Spears. I'll go see Pitbull.

[Dylan]

I wish he was at the Sphere.

[Dan Patrick]

Imagine Pitbull at the Sphere. No, I. I couldn't imagine that.

[Dylan]

Mind bending.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

I'm not going to say it until we're clearly away from.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

Yeah.

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[Dylan]

Can you call it bowl week? Like, do you just. Can you use half of it and then you're good?

[Dan Patrick]

I think super weak probably gets the job done.

[Dylan]

We're talking about maybe should we have T shirts that say the big game at Super Week? Like, sure, generic with the NFL logo on it.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, we did have a T shirt that we put up that just said football on it years ago. That's a good one, actually.

Yeah, it is.

Shuck around and find out. I think that T shirt's still available. Tyler Schuck played really well yesterday. A couple of touchdown passes for the new and improved saints. All right. 877-3-DP show. As we always do every Monday, best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. Dylan, would you update the poll results from hour one?

[Dylan]

Yes, Dan. So our one poll was after this weekend, who is more deserving of the NFL mvp? Drake May or Jonathan Taylor or other. But Jonathan Taylor has 73% of the vote.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he's not going to win it. He's not. But I hope that he puts up those numbers and the Colts continue to win. So it puts pressure on the voters that it shouldn't be. We got an Offensive Player of the year award. Therefore, if you're a wide receiver, running back, that's your award. And meanwhile the quarterbacks get to win MVPs. I go back to when Babe Ruth was dominating. I don't think he could win the MVP in back to back years. So when you look, I don't know how many MVPs Babe Ruth had, but I, I don't think he was. You were allowed to have back to back MVPs. Now I could be totally making that up. Yeah, Paulie, you know, Babe Ruth and.

[Paulie]

His care 22 years had one MVP at age 23. Now I've done some research on this in the past and I have to double check, but I don't think there was an MVP award for most of his career.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

But again, in 1929, he hit 49 home runs and finished 10th in the MVP. I don't understand it.

[Dan Patrick]

Can we see if you were allowed to win back to back mvs? Because I don't think you were. Yes, Marvin. All right, so Babe Ruth was only.

Eligible to win the American League MVP once because the award rules at the.

Time prohibited repeat winners.

Imagine that.

Maybe we should do that now. Yes, Paul, because he had a season.

[Paulie]

After winning the MVP where he hit.378 and hit 46 home runs and he was not eligible for voting.

[Dan Patrick]

That's unbelievable. Unbelievable. All right, so the poll question is. Is there an addendum to the poll question here for hour two? Dylan?

[Dylan]

Well, we've got a new one actually. Paul sent this last hour, but just straight up, who had the worst weekend?

[Dan Patrick]

Who?

[Dylan]

Bills, Jaguars, Panthers, Steelers or other.

[Dan Patrick]

I'd say the Bills. That's brutal. Yeah, because the Patriots are winning and it's not a foregone conclusion that the Bills are the best team in the division or they're going to have the best record. And the Jags, I mean the Jags gonna have a, they have to have a hard discussion as they move forward and they paid their quarterback. But you gotta have those difficult conversations. You don't want to be middle of the road. And that's what they feel like. You know, you got a new coach, offensive minded coach. And I thought, okay, got some weapons here. You're going to have to have a difficult conversation there moving forward because I'm going to give you three or four years, four years at the most. I should know who you are after those four years. And this is where you extend somebody and you're like, you don't have to, you know, you could franchise them, make them play the final year. I know you want to show confidence in your franchise quarterback, but there's, there's going to have to be some conversations. Carolina feels like there has to be conversations. I don't think Miami, I don't think they can really move on from tua. You know, San Francisco with Brock Purdy and Mac Jones. I mean, they got too much money in Brock Purdy, but Mac Jones has proven that he can play as well in that system. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

Trevor Lawrence, last year he was hurt, so you kind of give him a hall pass. But he had 11 touchdowns and seven picks. This year, nine starts, he's a 59% passer, 10 touchdowns, seven picks.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Now, the team isn't bad. They're just like you said, middle of the road. Not bad enough to blow up.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Let's see. Greg in Michigan. Morning, Greg. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Good morning, Gamba.

[Dan Patrick]

Man.

[Caller]

Hey, I gotta tell you, I'm known as Mr. Positive around the world, but I love that you love Elvis and I love when you had Josh Elvis Allen on and you said, what is his most prized possession? And he pointed to a picture of Elvis on the wall. Do you remember that?

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Caller]

Oh, geez. Dan. Dan. Okay, it was a fantastic interview. Real quick, and I know that I'm getting slightly off topic. Do you ever broach politics?

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Caller]

Very good, sir. Hey, real quick. Then I gotta ask you. My Buffalo Bills, what's wrong with them? I don't understand. I want them to win the Super Bowl. Obviously, with the Detroit Lions, it's one week.

[Dan Patrick]

It's one week.

[Caller]

It's just. Why could he. I mean, how could he fall so flat?

[Dan Patrick]

You just beat Kansas City. The Dolphins do this every year. These guys get paid to play and these things happen. There's always these strange games. But thank you, Greg, for the phone call. Sorry, I don't remember all of my interviews. Yes, Paulie, by the way, a weird.

[Paulie]

Thing with the Dolphins. They have the Saints, the Jets and the Steelers and the Bengals over the next four weeks. And the commanders, a lot of winnable games. Did they miss their window for removing their head coach?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think he's there next year.

[Paulie]

What if they somehow won?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think that they. You. You're going to bring in a new gm so that if Chris Greer was still there, then I would say, okay, maybe they can keep their jobs. You fire the GM now, you're going to bring in a gm, And I don't know how many times a GM comes in and goes, you know, I'm fine with that coach. If. If that coach got the GM fired, am I keeping that coach? Even though they might win some games. Mike in Wisconsin. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Hey, what up, fellas? Bringing the negative vibes of keeping out today on a Monday. I got a worse than a worster. My worst Jackson dart. Just a rookie already in concussion protocol for time. Kind of a sad situation after a promising start. My worster Ole Miss. This was week 11 of the College football season and they played the Citadel and they moved up in the rankings.

[Dan Patrick]

That is.

Thank you, Mike. Yeah, I don't think you should be able to move up in the rankings if you play a team that is not worthy. But yeah, Ole Miss beat the Citadel. Yes. Dylan, I believe the spread on that.

[Dylan]

Game was about 54 points.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, see, I can't go. Wow. You exceeded our expectations in how well you played against the Citadel. Let's see. Jay in Delaware. Hi, Jay. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Hey, good morning, Dan. I hope you enjoyed your three day weekend. Ross did an amazing job per usual and it'll be fun listening to Ross and the Rossettes in March of 228. My best and worst of the weekend. I'll start off my worst. That Niners game, it just frustrated me and pissed me off. The and watching a 73 year old quarterback run around, have 45 seconds to throw the ball and we didn't make a move for another pass rusher D lineman. It just made me even more mad. But on the brighter side, good in that game, Kyle Shanahan came out for the first time this season and said there was no injuries after the game. All right, you guys have a great Monday.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Jay, keep your head up there. Yeah. Matthew Stafford looks sprite. He looks lively. Yeah, Marvin, I would too if I had Puka, Nakua and Devonte Adams on my team. Yeah, I know, man. You forget Devonte Adams. Like that's one of those. Puka might not be open. Devonte, one of the two will be open every single play. You got good running backs, you got a great head coach. Defense can be stout playmakers there. Yes, Marvin, Matthew Stafford, he might be one of those guys where we forgot.

Or the general public forgot that he.

Played for the Lions just because he's.

Going on this incredible run with the Rams.

Raymond in Scottsdale. Hey, Raymond.

[Caller]

Good morning, sir.

[Dan Patrick]

How are you?

Good.

[Caller]

I think this gambling issue is a lot more ominous than we're making it out to be. The three big sins in society are what? Drugs, gambling and prostitution. Sports complex is deeply involved in two of them. They only got one more to go and they are there. I don't really care that people gamble. I've seen it my whole life. I'm from the south side of Chicago. I've seen my father gamble his life away. So I, like you, understand this. But it's one thing when you gamble, it's something else. When the casino is also the owner of the league, they've got referees that work for the casino. And my father used to tell me when a card dealer wants to kill a game, he'll missed deal and crashes everybody. And that's how you get killed. There's going to be violence over this and it's coming like a freight train because I'm not worried about the point shaving, because nobody else really cares about point shaving unless you are throwing the game. So there's a moral rationale that is made there. But when you have a coach, 15 years ago, I listened to Al Michael call a game and this is exactly what he said. They're on the 30, there's a one minute to go, they've got a three point lead and everybody wants to know, are they going to kick the field goal and cover the spread? That's exactly what point shaving is. Only it wasn't an issue because the league isn't the casino now the league is the casino. And now they know who everybody is, and now they know who the refs are. And now they're watching. And I am just telling you the rhetoric, the philosophical rhetoric is not going to matter. Someone's going to really get hurt. And I'm afraid we're going to see it. And I don't know what the fix is going to be, but.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but there's more safeguards there. Thank you, Raymond. There's more safeguards in place because there has to be now. There's more availability to be able to gamble. But they have to have more safeguards in here. And I think that's the difference because Vegas, you need Vegas to police all of this, if that's what they do. It's just, you get a player who thinks nobody's going to notice and that's what's happened. Hey, we're going to do these illegal poker games, who's going to know? Hey, I'm going to bring in somebody and you're going to fleece him for a million dollars. I get a little kickback here, who's going to know? It's when you get compromised and then that's when you have to pay off a debt. That's what I'm worried about. And you know, somebody said, well, if you have a quarterback, a big time quarterback, does that get everybody's attention? Yes, but they're making $50 million. It's the guy that is not making that. That's the person I worry about. And I think as we move forward with this, it's going to be fluid because there'll be moments and a prop bet. I can change the outcome with one pitch and I can still win the game. And this Class A with the Guardians is one of the top relievers in the game. He and his buddies, hey, I'm gonna throw this pitch, just this pitch, and it's not going to be above 94 miles an hour or it's going to be a ball. And then you can bet on that. You're just inviting this, that's all. That's why I'm I'm not surprised and I won't be surprised. I'm surprised when there isn't something kind of nefarious going on because there's so much money and the leagues are all in like the moral compass is not pointing in the right direction. It's pointing towards the bank. We'll take a break. Back after this.

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[Dan Patrick]

When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong.

[Dylan]

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[Dan Patrick]

They lose it. They actually lose it.

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Dan Patrick]

Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst and six time Pro Bowler, third overall pick and 2010 out of Oklahoma. You can see him all season long. NFL game day morning Sundays at 9am Eastern on NFL Network. Great to see you again. What advice would you give Jackson dart with his style of play?

First off, good morning. How you doing, Danny? I always love coming back. First off, good morning. Secondly, man, be there's a fine line between trying to make a play and dangerous play. You are paid to deliver the ball with your arm. That's what you're paid to do. Everything outside of that is extra. Okay? He has to start to understand when is the time to run and how to run. Nobody's telling him not to run because we've seen running quarterbacks before. But there's a way to do it. There's a reason that some running quarterbacks don't get hurt, don't get hit the way they get hit. He wants to get as much as he can out of this run instead of taking what they're giving you. When you see Baker Mayfield doing the extra or whatever, trying to get the extra yard is necessary at the time. Other than that, you see Lamar Jackson, he make his move, he make you miss, he get out of bounds. When he get down, you see Jalen hurts. He get his yards, whatever. He get down. Michael Vick, he run, run, run. He get down. Cam Newton went through this, and cam Newton is 66260. And he was taking these hits. And even Cam started to understand, forget all that. I'm getting down or I'm getting out of bounds. If he wants to have a long career, which he should have because he's extremely talented, he has to understand, man, there's times when you have to go that extra mile, and then there's times where you need to just get what you can get and then get down. He's trying so bad to make a play because of what's around him and everything that he feels like the world is on his shoulders, and that is going to be a detriment for him, and you don't want to see that.

Yeah, he can't run like Scatter Boo does who go take contact. But I would have RG3 talk to Jackson Dart because our G3 might be the fastest quarterback who's ever played that position. But you got to be. You got to be smart when you scramble, when you decide you want to take on a hit or you know you're not going to get out of bounds.

Yeah, my. My. My brother keep to leave. We're on a show called the Gridiron. It's about underdog fantasy. And he says this all the time. If you want to do running back stuff, you have to deal with running back stuff. So if you want to go in there and duck your shoulder and try to run this dude over and all that, you got to take what come with it, which is what comes with being a running back. Getting hit all in your knees. You might take a couple extra hits, your shoulders gonna be banged all up and all that. But that's what running backs do. Run are built to deal with that. You are a quarterback. Don't do running back stuff, but want to deal with it like a quarterback. If you don't do running back stuff, you got to deal with running back stuff. I love that he says that, because it's true.

What does Jonathan Taylor have to do to win the mvp?

Just be consistent the rest of the year. You know, what he. What he's doing right now at this level is incredible. And if any year is the year to go win it, it's this year because there's not any quarterback that's like, wow, look at what this guy's doing. Like last year, what Lamar was doing was unprecedented. What Josh Allen was able to do to elevate his team. Putting his team on his back to do the. Have the games he was having was freaking it. That game he had out in LA versus the Rams, freaking incredible. We're not seeing those types of games from quarterbacks. So if he's consistently like what he just did yesterday versus the Falcons, that's a MVP game. So when he wins the award, they're going to look back to. Everybody has that game. That's his MVP game. Now he has to have these consistent moments throughout the year. See Saquon, any other year would have been the MVP last year, but look at what he was up against. Jonathan Taylor's not up against that this year. So he just has to be consistent with what he's doing. Give us one more of those like type games and then consistently play the rest of the year and then keep winning. I think he'll win mvp.

Yeah, I don't think he will because we've created the offensive Player of the year award and that's, that's. Hey, we're going to give it to a running back or a wide receiver and I think, yeah, well, that's what.

Yeah, well, that's, that's not right. Because here's the evidence. And this is me. Indie fans, I don't care how y' all feel. Y' all are fans of your team. Y' all not paying attention. This is the most valuable player, okay? Drake May is playing far beyond his years. He's playing great. He is. Matthew Stafford is playing phenomenal. He's playing great. Okay? But you see yesterday and the last two weeks is why Jonathan Taylor should be at the top of the MVP race. When they, when Pittsburgh took Jonathan Taylor out of the game, we seen what happened to the team. It was not the same team. When Jonathan Taylor did not take over the game. We seen yesterday. I don't care. Everybody likes to look at numbers. What did your eyes tell you when you're watching this game? Daniel Jones. Interception. Three fumbles. One. All of them really should have been taken away, but that would have been another two to three turnovers from the quarterback. Okay, so what do we do? Stop depending on him. Give it to the running back. Give it to the running back. Give it to the running back. Give it to the running back. He's the reason that game was even won. Everybody wants to talk about that one throw he made. He's the quarterback. We need you to make a throw. Make a throw, please. Okay, but who made all the key plays? Who put all. Who put. When they needed something to happen, they put it on Jonathan Taylor, that is a running back. Why is he running us to a win versus a team where our quarterback should be doing it? Granted, I understand the Falcons are a good pass defense. However, that's, that's not what we seen yesterday from Daniel Jones, what we've been seeing. So the last two weeks should be evidence that that guy is the MVP.

Talking to Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst, you can see him NFL game day morning Sundays at 9am Eastern on NFL Network. Most disappointing team so far is who?

Oh, most disappointing team. Yeah, Right now it's a two man race. Now granted, one of the players main player got hurt, but the Baltimore Ravens, you expected them to be a lot better at this point, especially defensively and the Buffalo Bills, but a lot of people had both of those teams in the Super Bowl. Now a lot of people are wondering if at a point now, now it's a race of Baltimore gets in, if they can win the division. And Buffalo, with how they're looking up and down, how they looked against Kansas City, it was almost like that was their Super Bowl. Then you go down to Miami, it's like, what the heck happened? So I would say both of those two teams, because of the expectations, like the Packers, a lot of people can say, well, the packers, they are losing these games, they shouldn't lose. But packers were a good team, but they were in the mix. Not people had them in the Super Bowl. You know, a lot of people had either Buffalo or Baltimore in the super bowl. And where they are right now, that's not what we're seeing. So I would say those two teams.

Yeah, I would probably. I think the Ravens are going to win their division.

Yeah. Yeah, they have, they definitely have a shot. Because if you look at the schedule with what they have left, the defense is playing much more improved. And, and well, I mean, Lamar clearly. Yeah. Lamar. Yeah. Like you look at Pittsburgh, they got to play Pittsburgh twice. Pittsburgh is. So you don't know what you're going to get from them. Like they play a game like they did versus Colts and then they do what they did last night and it's like, yeah, so yeah, Pittsburgh. And Pittsburgh has the harder schedule. So yeah, Baltimore is probably going to win the division. So they'll get in. But even so, what we've seen from them all year, it's like you watch the Baltimore Ravens, like, yeah. Then you watch the Buffalo Bills, like what the heck is going on? You know. So I would say those two teams, if I'm looking at like actual disappointing teams for you, expected More.

Do you ever land on a quarterback? Like try to land on a quarterback? No, no.

It just happens. You play, the game is played. This is what I say to anybody, and this is. This is what bothers me about these rules, is the people who are making the rules have been on the field, on the grass, when the game is being played. Not just in the game, but practice workouts, combine all. You've seen how fast these athletes move. You've seen how fast this game is. Defensive linemen are taught you have 2.3 seconds to get to the quarterback. That's what we're taught. That's the clock in our head. So imagine how fast you have to be moving to get to the quarterback that fast. It's not like you getting off the ball and you just run in a straight line and going to hit him in two seconds. You got to get past another professional athlete who might be bigger, stronger than you and has help. So once I get there. Why do you think that we glorify a person who can get to the quarterback and get him on the ground with the ball in his hand? When we do that, it's glorified by everybody. It's called a sack. When you get 10 of those, you're put in a different level. There's 17 games now. The average game, you, you, you're playing offensive snaps, 60 snaps, okay? Defensively, you might get 35 to 40. So if you calculate all of that and you can get to the quarterback 10 times, you're put into the elite category. That's how hard it is to do it. So when you're doing that, you're not thinking about, oh, let me fall on the side of him. When I get to him, you're thinking, get him on the ground by any means necessary. So this, oh, you can't follow. And I heard Michael Strahan said something that I love that he said they act like quarterbacks are not football players, too. We're all football players. Football players. And it's just like, you can't push this agenda of, oh, the game is fair. And we. It's all about protection and all. Are we just trying to. No, no, no, no, no. It's about keeping those guys healthy so we can see points, so we can make money. Because if we're talking about protection, why is it that a corner offensive lineman who on average is 6, 2, 63 and up £320 and up there used to be where a corner who was probably 5, 9 to 6ft, 180 to 200 pounds could cut an office alignment. Who was pulling? Well, now you can't do that anymore. And we're talking about fair or safe. Nah, man, come on, Stop that.

I like y'.

All.

I like you all fired up like.

Yeah. Because it. Oh, that's just. They. Man, the game is too fast for this for y' all to still be like, come on, man. That is just. That's bad.

Matthew. Matthew Stafford, a Hall of Famer right now?

Heck, yeah. Yeah. Forget Matthew Stafford. Is going to be one of the people that. Forget the All Pros. Forget the provost and all that. What did your eyes tell you and what do his numbers say? Matthew Stafford was a victim of arguably the greatest era of a string of quarterbacks that came through. Matthew Stafford was drafted in 2009, and he just ran into a string of quarterbacks. The Drew Brees, the Tom Brady's, the Aaron Rodgers and.

Right.

A couple years later, Cam Newton showed up. Matt Ryan was around, Philip Rivers was around. All. Eli Manning was there. All of these people kept showing up, kept showing Andrew Luck. All these people kept showing up. And Matthew Stafford just consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent. And now look at him. He might be playing the best of his career. He's already won Super Bowl. Okay. He left Detroit, came to the Rams, won the Super Bowl. Now he's just stacking it up at this point. Yes. Matthew Stafford is a Hall of Famer. Absolutely.

I think sacks are overrated.

Okay.

I think pressures and hurries are more important. You can have a sack in a game and we might say, oh, man, he had a good game. We don't watch the tape.

Yeah.

But. But I see pressures and hurries, and you might affect 15 plays as opposed to maybe one with that sack. I think we focus too much on the sacks and not enough on the hurries. The pressures that defensive linemen have, you.

Know, we call that. It's a word for it. Oh, it's called smart. We call that being smart. You actually watch the game. A lot of people look at number. Okay, look at the number. All right. Even when I played, I'm not going to give you 12 to 15 sacks, but go watch the game. I'm in the backfield most plays. Disrupting something. I'm on the quarterback. He can't just sit back there and. And hold the ball. I'm moving them off the. Off the spot, all of that. That's what Micah does. Micah. So everybody's looking at the. I'll tell you, even better one. Max Crosby. If you go look at Max Crosby's stats Right now go look at Max Crosby stats and then go look at other defensive end stats. You're going to say, oh, well, he's playing better than Max. Go watch the tape. Max is on the running back, the quarterback, he's in the backfield, he disrupted. He's doing all of that. That's what makes Max one of the best in all of football, is because he's always disrupting something. It ain't always who gets him on the ground. Because in basketball there's a stat called an assist. So if I have the ball, because sometimes I feel I gotta break this down like I'm talking to five year olds, if I have the ball and I give it to my teammate and he puts it in the basket, that's called an assist. Okay? They even have hockey assists where I pass to him, he passed to him and then it goes in. Okay? They have those as well. So if I beat my man and I make the quarterback, oh, oh, oh, he see me, he all over the place and he run into my teammate. The teammate gets the stat who calls the play. See, I even teach my, my son that. I say, son, stop trying to be so. You so caught up in making the play, go disrupt stuff, you might not always make the play. So Dan, you know what? You've been on the airways for a long time. You know why? Because you are S M A R T. You are smart. You know what? It's Monday, so I'm going to use an even bigger word. You are intelligent, my brother. You are. Thank you for watching the tape.

That's how you get invited back. Right there. That's. That's smart on your part.

That's how you get it.

Well, that's why I always talk about Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald is like up there with Reggie White, in my opinion. Like what he did when I, When I get pressure up the middle now the quarterback has to go right or left just like you did. I'm going to. I think those guys are more valuable because they disrupt, they get the quarterback off his spot. If you're a great, you know, edge rusher on the right, I just go the other way up the middle, you know. Now I've gotten you off your spot and I.

You want to.

Aaron was always great.

You want no example of that. So we always try and get pressure up the middle. Tom Brady, he hated any quarterback, hates pressure in their face because that's their window. A great example of why you need a guy up the middle is yesterday when the Falcons were playing the Colts. The edge guys were getting pressure, but Daniel Jones wasn't getting sacked because the D tackles weren't getting pressure. They were sitting at the line of scrimmage. So it doesn't matter if these guys are right here. The quarterback is taught to whether he is Launch point is 7 yards. When I say launch point, that's where his foot steps and he moves back up into the pocket. That's his launch point. So when we used to rush, we used to when people be thinking defensive alignment, we just out there going, well, some of us are, but I wasn't. So you got to know the launch point. Some people's launch point is at 9 yards, some people's launch point is at 10. You got to know the launch point because you got to know when to counter back. So if the edges come off the edge and they're just running around what you taught never to run around the quarterback. He's just going to step up into the pocket. The O line is taught to build a pocket for him. If there's no pressure up the middle, then he can step up in the pocket and make a throw. So that's why you need pressure up the middle. That's why you gotta have a guy in the middle of your defense. That's why when Warren Sapp was doing what he was doing at the under tackle, it changed everything. Tony Dungy said, I need somebody in the middle of my defense that can make everything go. And that's what SAP was. And then everybody just, you know, copycatted it.

Great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us.

Always.

Yes sir, we appreciate it. Thank you. That's Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst. Very smart guy by the way. Six time Pro Bowler. We'll take a break. We will give you our best and worst of the weekend right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live let's be real.

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[Dan Patrick]

From cleaning canary cages to this night here in New York, it's a long ways.

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Here We Go.

[Dylan]

Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics and pop culture. And each week one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions, like, are we heading towards another financial crash? Like in 08? Is non monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lilly Singh, and Bill Nye.

[Dan Patrick]

When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong.

[Dylan]

Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little Better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here we go again with Kal Penn on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator]

In the new podcast, Hell in Heaven, two young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead, the other tried for murder not once. People went wild, not twice, stunned, but three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream starts to crumble and our couple retreat from reality.

[Dan Patrick]

They lose it.

[Caller]

They actually lose it.

[Podcast Narrator]

They sort of went nuts until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

To beat the champ, you gotta knock him out. The Dodgers stand tall and win back to back titles. I'm Richard Parks iii.

[Dylan]

My show, Dodger Blue Dream captures all the drama, tension and ecstasy of the best World Series win of all time. In our new episode, Game seven, no way out.

[Dan Patrick]

Now listen to Dodger Blue dream on.

[Dylan]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.

[Dan Patrick]

You get your podcasts. Oh, look who's joining us. Seaton's on the road. Let's. Okay, let's guess where he left yesterday afternoon. Todd, where do you think Seaton is? He's somewhere west of Pittsburgh. West of Pittsburgh. Okay, Marvin, he's in Maryland. Dylan.

[Paulie]

Virginia, on the way to Indy. I'm gonna go Columbus, Ohio.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm going West Virginia.

[Todd]

Well, I'll give you a clue. Some people call this the birthplace of the dual threat quarterback. The guy named Major Harris.

[Dan Patrick]

Maybe you've heard of him. West Virginia. Yeah.

This is a clue.

Oh, okay. All right. Yeah.

[Todd]

For the first time in almost 30 years, believe it or not, I'm back in Morgantown, West Virginia, and it's awesome. It's beautiful.

[Dylan]

Gorgeous.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you let officials know you were coming back?

[Todd]

You know, I didn't. I think that may have been a wise move. I did notice that the dorm that I lived in, Arnold hall, is no longer a dorm, so they might be erasing any memory of me on this campus.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so West Virginia, and then you got to get to Indianapolis by tomorrow morning.

[Todd]

Yeah, I'll get to Indianapolis tonight and then by at 8 o', clock, I'll be at Amico there. You go to danpatrick.com for the. The address. All of the addresses are there. And then, yeah, tomorrow I'll get to Indianapolis tonight. I'll be in St. Louis tomorrow night. And yeah, we'll keep it rolling and.

[Dan Patrick]

Then Denver and then Las Vegas.

Yep.

Do you want to give us your best and worst of the weekend?

[Todd]

Dude, Best of the weekend? Are the Patriots for real or what? Let's go. That's a real win. That's a real win. Trayvon Henderson is a thing.

[Dan Patrick]

I think he's.

[Todd]

He's a real dealer. Worst of the weekend. Well, I'll address that perhaps when I see you in person. The Mako van is fine. It's fine. We just. It's a good. The irony of me driving a Mako van right now. Maybe we'll put them to the test and see how good they are at their job.

[Dan Patrick]

What did you hit?

[Todd]

Well, it's not so much hit, it's more. More of a scrape situation. But I hear they're very good at buffing those right out.

[Paulie]

Right on, Brad.

[Dan Patrick]

You won't even be able to notice.

We'll be all right.

Okay. All right. Just a scratch. That's it.

[Todd]

Yes, merely a flesh wound.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, will talk to you tomorrow.

[Todd]

All right, Godspeed.

[Dan Patrick]

That's. But not too fast in the fast lane, right, Todd? Yes, not too fast. You can't say when the police goes, hey, do you know how fast you were going? And if you say God speed, you should be able to get off with that, right?

I don't know.

I don't think I'd appreciate that answer. How about we give our best and worst of the weekend, Todd? Best of the weekend. I've made them the worst of the weekend a number of times in the past, so I'm going to give it to Wisconsin. They snap a six game losing streak, get the victory in Madison over number 23 Washington, 1310.

Let's go, Badgers.

Let's give them a little love.

[Dylan]

Finally.

[Dan Patrick]

I think they got a vote of confidence. Luke Fickle did that. He'll be there. He's coming back next year. And worse of the weekend, on what.

I'd like to call almost, sadly, I'm.

Giving it to Penn State, Iowa and Auburn for almost. But not quite being able to close things out against Indiana, Oregon and Vandy. Respect, Dylan. All right.

[Dylan]

And my best is my Hawaii Rainbow warriors dominate San Diego State 38 to 6 in the late slot. 7 and 3 on the season, and most importantly, 7, 2 and 1 against the spread this year. And my worst Dan my Phoenix Rising lose one nothing to FC Tulsa in the USL Western Conference semifinals.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you sit in Seaton's chair. And all of a sudden you're talking soccer.

[Dylan]

Big fan.

[Dan Patrick]

And it's one nil. Not one nothing.

[Dylan]

One nil.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Dylan]

I'm learning.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Marvin.

Best of the weekend.

The best player in college football. Jeremiah Smith from Ohio State. 10 receptions, 137 yards. Touchdown. He's the best.

He's probably not going to win the.

Heisman, but he's the best player in the game. Worst of the weekend, my Virginia Cavaliers, they were going. They were going all the way. They were going places.

And they lost the Wake Force. And now they're probably not going to.

Make the college football playoffs as a 1 seed. Hold.

[Paulie]

I also have Wisconsin in that slop. 13:10 over Washington. The leading passer for Wisconsin, punter Sean west, one for one, 24 yards. They threw for 48 yards. But it's a win. I'm going to go with USC as my other. Best of the weekend. Running back King Miller and wide receiver Makai Lemon really tore up Northwestern. And USC's in this weird position right now. They didn't have some big games early. Not a great out of conference schedule. But they finished with Iowa, Oregon, UCLA, and they're 7 and 2.

[Dan Patrick]

They Cusp.

[Paulie]

Cusp team.

[Dan Patrick]

It still feels like there's some unrest there with Lincoln Riley. It just feels awkward. And I had this feeling with Brian Kelly at lsu. Just doesn't feel secure. Yeah, Paul.

[Paulie]

USC has to schedule tougher out of conference games and get credit for them even playing in them because their record right now is anchored down by the lack of big games early.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

Ins with a Listers. I don't know what I was expecting.

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Dylan]

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[Podcast Narrator]

I'm so upset I didn't get Botox.

[Dylan]

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[Dan Patrick]

You won't see coming.

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This, but I'm just gonna open your.

[Dylan]

Free iHeartRadio app, search Las Culturistas and listen to the full podcast now. Hey, I'm Cal Penn and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? Each week I'm calling up my friends like Bill Nye, Lilly Singh and Pete Buttigieg to talk about everything from the space race to movie remakes to psychedelics.

[Dan Patrick]

Put another way, are you high?

[Dylan]

Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, but my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again with Cal Penn on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

This is an iHeart podcast.