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Doug Gottlieb
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Beyer
Are listening to the Dan Patrick show on FOX Sports Radio. Welcome to the Dan Patrick Show. I love Dan Patrick.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Beyer
Home to the biggest guests in best sports talk on radio. I love it. One of my favorites. Normally home to Dan Patrick.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Beyer
Instead you get Doug Gottlieb and Dan.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Beyer
Good morning to you, Dan Patrick Show, FOX Sports Radio. Happy New Year. This is coming to you from the Tyrack.com studios. Tyrack.com is the official tire expert and retailer of the Dan Batrick show. Go to Tyrack.com Dan. Try the tire decision guide. Get a full line of Goodyear tires, special offers, free road hazard protection, mobile tire installation. Tirek.com is the way tire buying should be. Hope you're having just, you had a great new year. God, what a tragedy. I just, what an awful, awful event in New Orleans. I, I know. Again, I was listening to your, your update on the fact they don't think it'll affect the Sugar bowl. And I do understand you're talking about, you know, 100,000 people or whatever, 80,000 people plus all the other parts to it. And I don't know what an extra day would do, but I don't know. That's a terror attack by definition of the word, right down the street. And it, and we can say, well, it doesn't have any effect in the game. Like, what are we actually talking about? You know, do we, do we just play the sport? Does the show must go on? I guess I don't, you know, that that's a hard one. But I do think it, you have to have at least a conversation of, hey, are we doing the right thing by playing this, playing this deal?
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Doug Gottlieb
And they will play it there. There hasn't been any mention of a possible delay or discussion. Authorities meeting the media, giving details. And obviously that's a topic of conversation. And you also have two teams coming in from Georgia and Notre Dame that have fan bas. Not that it matters where any of the victims are from. Every life loss is tragic, but you know, there are people in town for that. They said that those who lost their lives, mostly locals. Again, it doesn't matter, just more information on it. But yeah, I think it would just be difficult because of the, if it was a Saints game, Doug, maybe, you know, maybe you move it to a Monday night, but because you have these two fan Bases coming in and likely flying out the next day or leaving the next day, driving. I think it's, it's difficult to do that. Just, they said that the game is not at risk. They don't feel that there's any threat to the game. You'd expect that there would be beefed up security with, you know, with what they, you know, would have. They had tons of security out last night and, you know, something like this still was able to happen. But, yeah, you'd expect that tonight. But they don't expect, they don't expect the game to be altered in any way.
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Dan Beyer
Yeah, that's just terrible, terrible stuff. So I, I know thoughts and prayers, you know, fall short of, of, of real kind of empathy for what's going on, but that's the only thing we can, we can do. And I actually do agree with the idea of playing the game. I don't want to. I just, I, I do think you have to go, like, are we doing the right thing here? And, you know, it's just, it's very likely too big a ship to turn around, you know, just, it just is. But it's, you know, I don't care where anybody's from. The fact is that anyone who goes down to, to New Orleans for the Sugar bowl goes to Bourbon. Right? You may go for beignets in the morning, but you're going to go to Bourbon. And now that's a, It's a crime scene. It's a, it's a crime. It's just awful, awful stuff. All right, let's get to some better things that will happen today. This is the Dan Patrick Show East Dan Byer. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Dan and the Danettes. Jason Stewart, our esteemed producer, is alongside as well. Quick recap of last night again, and Dan, I'm going to use your breakdown because I thought mine was way too wordy, which was. There was never a point in which you thought Penn State was going to lose that football game. So what about today, as now we have what feels like much more evenly matched matchups. Right. Does it feels, you know, we've, we've. Anyone who's questionable is no longer in the field. It doesn't mean that we know exactly how good Arizona State is against the Texas, but I'm not sure we know how good Texas truly is. Georgia takes on Notre Dame in the nightcap. But the game that I think everyone points to as this could very easily be a national championship game, is Ohio State, Oregon. And while you sit there and go. Ohio State lost to Michigan. Yes, they did. And Ohio State did lose to Oregon. And of course, the Michigan loss was at home by three points. Their offense did nothing in the second half. Nothing. But they turn around and put 42 up on Tennessee. And now they take on the Ducks, who they played before. They play them in the granddaddy of them all. They play them in the rook Rose Bowl. It's the closest thing we have to an actual Rose bowl with an old PAC 10 Big 10 matchup. Dan is a gigantic Ohio State fan. Gigantic. Your feelings going into these game, going in this game is if you had to parry down to one word, what would it be?
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Doug Gottlieb
Nervous. There's. Yeah, it's. But not for. There are so many storylines going about, but I feel that every single storyline is about Ohio State. Every single one. Like, we're not talking about Oregon, we're talking about Ryan Day. We're talking about Ohio State turning it on against Tennessee. We're talking about revenge, we're talking about pass interference. And just like the entire season, Oregon's going dun, dun, dun, dun, da da. We'll just keep winning and going on about our business. And you know, it's funny with the Giants Eagles conversation that we had of saying, like, wouldn't that just be the ultimate, you know, bleep you to the Giants where the Eagles are just like, yeah, we don't care. You know, we're going to sit Saquon. There's a little bit of that aspect with this where I just think like, Oregon's like, okay, go ahead, keep talking. You know. Yep. You guys are the ones that are going to make the adjustments. It's just very naive to think that while it was such a close game in Eugene and that maybe Ohio State played its best game of the year against Tennessee, that Oregon just wouldn't have gotten better or Oregon wouldn't have improved. That's, you know, that's foolish to think of that.
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Dan Beyer
I think. Yeah. Your apprehension, your nervousness is, you know, this is a gig. It's. It's totally unfair. But this is the, you know, this is the business we've chosen, right? Yes. Or Ryan Day. Totally unfair. But like, this is everything, you know, and everyone was on him last week and they go in Mollywamp Tennessee. Right. And again, I don't know whether it's the beard die or, you know, the records against the ranked teams or whatever. I did think there was, you know, Oregon was very, very clever, obviously, with their manipulation of the rules when they play. When they won the Game at Austin, which is in fact coaching. And you know, and look, Dan Lanning, whether it's the pregame halftime videos or just the overall positivity and energy, whatever it is, like he's kind of. It doesn't mean you win the game, but in terms of public opinion, he wins public opinion ahead of, ahead of Ryan Day. Right.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah.
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Dan Beyer
So I'm just. It's, it's. This game is everything to Ryan Day.
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Doug Gottlieb
I think if you had a college football coaching draft right now of the coaches in college football, and it's not because they're number one. So maybe, maybe because they are number one, it doesn't make this as big of a deal. But I think Dan Lanning's your number one pick of all the coaches out there. And I know Kirby Smart in Georgia, like, hold on, wait a second here. But there seems to be something about a guy who, by the way, where did he come from? Came from Georgia. But they're just as. There's something about him. There's something about his attitude, their confidence. We've always talked about the Oregon resources, but. Yeah. And the culture that they, they've built. Yeah. My goodness. I mean, he's done a spectacular job. I mean, we look at Bo Nicks now and Sean Payton deserves some credit. But there was, there was an Auburn Bonix. And Auburn bonix has been completely erased from our memory.
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Dan Beyer
Correct.
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Doug Gottlieb
Because of Oregon Bonix and now Denver Bronco Bonix.
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Dan Beyer
And I would also say Dylan Gabriel, much the same, you know.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah.
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Dan Beyer
At Central Florida when he was at Oklahoma last year. Remember Oklahoma let him go. Let's not forget, you know, we, and, and they thought they had an answer that was better than Dylan Gabriel. And the, the thought was, Dylan Gabriel, you top out when you get to the really, really high level stuff. He just, he's gonna, he's gonna top out. That was the feeling from last year. And you're like, yeah, I don't. Right. I mean, yes, Oregon could have come in with a big bag, but guys like that at Oklahoma, Oklahoma has plenty of money. Plenty of money. And they wanted to fix it. They sat there and said to themselves, we're good, we're good, we have something better. You know, and he was a, you know, a freshman starting quarterback, you know, red shirt. And Jackson Arnold and Jack Snarl started three games and they pulled him, they put him back in. They pulled him again or whatever. But they thought Jed Jackson Arnold was better than Dylan Gabriel. So just. And I'm with you on Bo Nix, people forget Bo Nicks started as A freshman at his dad's alma mater at Auburn. And Auburn fans were like, dude, road game. Bo Nicks not good enough, goes to Oregon and. And good enough, right. Dylan Gabriel kind of much the same. So I'm with you and all these things can be true, but the game feels like it's all about Ryan Day. Yeah, it's all about Ryan Day.
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Doug Gottlieb
It's a lot, lot of. Lot of Ohio State. A lot of it.
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Dan Beyer
Yeah. Yeah. Do you take anything like. I know that Herbie's taking a beating on social media. Not that that matters. The sec losses, the 2sec losses yesterday, does that help the argument of the other conferences?
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Doug Gottlieb
I don't think so. What I do find is how America is united against the sec because at one point I just felt that each conference and specifically as a Big Ten guy, I felt like the Big Ten had to fight their own battles. But now you have one less conference in the PAC 12. So maybe the reaches is that's expanded. And since now the SEC has expanded some and the Big twelves probably felt the heat. I feel there's more anti SEC than anything. I don't think that Alabama really was too interested in playing that game. Take nothing away from Michigan, you know, South Carolina, Illinois sure seemed like a different sort of deal. But yeah, I don't read, I don't read a lot into it. I don't think the SEC is. Doug, for all the SEC talk that we had. Again, I just go back to the Georgia Tech Georgia game for the team that we feel is the standard bearer in that conference. You know, Georgia Tech could have won that game late in the year and in changed things. I just didn't think that the SEC was as great as it was. So it's not like a piling on for me. I don't think it makes a difference. My, my feelings about the league are. Are basically the same as. As what they were prior.
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Dan Beyer
Well, the, the ultimate equalizer for these things for. For these leagues is. Is quarterback play. And that's what's going to be interesting right is that's what happened with the Pac 12 last year and its last year of existence. It's pretty obvious you had some studs at quarterback which can even out when there's a talent disparity. But relatively level the playing field when there's a talent disparity. Okay. The Sugar bowl, which we started by talking about like that feels like that's a pick em. That's a pick em and it's a, it's a weird thing again. Yes, I Agree. Most of the world is anti feels anti SEC just because they've been so dominant for I think for so long and there's so much discussion and assumption that they're ultimately going to have a couple SEC teams in the national championship game. Have you noticed? I feel like Marcus Freeman is the Zion Williamson. What Zion Williamson was to Duke is Marcus Freeman to Notre Dame. Zion Williamson made Duke likable, right? Like no one when he was in college. Like everybody liked watching Zion Williamson. Like yeah, he plays for Duke. Like okay. And I'm not a Duke hater. I do know that the Duke haters exist and they are a loud group, right. And Notre Dame is the same thing. It's usually a national celebration when Notre Dame loses a college football playoff game or a BCS game, right. Or a big game of this magnitude. People just like they've, they've heard enough about Notre Dame and all of the historic history stuff which none of it has helped about in modern day football. And I think Notre Dame has been a hell of a program here for the last decade, spanning the last couple of coaches. But Marcus Freeman is. Seems so much more likable than a Brian Kelly that he's like he has the Zion Williams effect. Like I actually think that a lot of America going to be cheering for Notre Dame to win this game over Georgia. Part of it is Georgia's overall dominance the sec. But a lot of it is people just like Marcus Freeman think like that's the kind of dude I want to see winning.
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Doug Gottlieb
Sure, that's interesting. I hadn't thought about that. That there, there is some arrogance that automatically comes with being the Notre Dame head coach. Even if you're, I mean Lou Holtz obviously the Brian Kelly as you just mentioned, even Charlie Weiss for that matter. There is something with it. And, and I also think that the SEC then plays into the to the Georgia stuff. A pick em game. I'd be curious to see what it would be if Carson Beck was healthy. I'm not sure how different it would be, but I would have to think that it would at least be a little different that I would favor Georgia. But Gunner Stockton is going to have everything that he, you know, on his plate and more tonight. That sounds very cliche but the one thing that I will say is it's funny because for how good this Notre Dame team is. Doug, when we talk about dealt the little guy into the bracket, what do you do? Well, Northern Illinois probably had the win of the year in college football when they went to Notre Dame and won in September, you know, so there's, there's always that bugaboo for. When you look at how good, you know, Notre Dame is. And Notre Dame is playing really, really, it's. You look at that, that blemish on their record, you're like, oh, yeah, Northern, Northern Illinois. And even if the Notre Dame would have run the, ran the table, they still would have been, you know where they are on the brag. They would have been a 5 seed, but they wouldn't have got a first round buy because they're not in the conference. But yeah, just. Just unique with the Irish and I think the lone blemish bniu.
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Dan Beyer
Yeah. And NIU fired their coach too. Like you beat. Note the year in which you beat Notre Dame at Notre Dame and you lose your job. College sports man can't beat. And then of course, you got Arizona State, Texas, as Kenny Dillingham got an extension. So he's not going anywhere.
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Doug Gottlieb
Jake Plummer on yesterday, and that's what I was kind of curious. What are you going to do? Maybe he knew something at the time that we didn't. But that news came out after the interview.
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Dan Beyer
Yeah. And of course they take on Texas and Texas has beaten everybody they played except for the Dogs. And they lost to the Dogs tw second time in overtime. Will they get a third shot at the Dogs? They got to survive Arizona State. And. And Cam Scatterbo, if you haven't seen him, he's a transfer from Sac State, played the last two years at Arizona State.
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Doug Gottlieb
And yeah, Jason Stewart's got a firsthand look at Cam Scatterboat. Jason, in your in person scouting, I know you were able to check him out in Stillwater. What kind of game do you think that Scatter Boo had?
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D
First of all, I want to give some context to this for listeners who don't know. Doug got us amazing seats to. Was it Boo Pickens Stadium?
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Dan Beyer
Boone Pickens Stadium.
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D
That's Boone. Did you say Boone Pickens?
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Dan Beyer
He said Boo. He said Boo. Boone Pickens, you are my Boone.
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D
We had great seats and we were able to catch a quarter of the game before the game was postponed for several hours due to weather. And in that one quarter, I saw some magic with Arizona State. It might have had something to do with the fact that Oklahoma State had dummies for their defense. They played zero defense in that quarter that I saw, but I saw some magic with Arizona State. Doug?
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Dan Beyer
Yeah. Oklahoma State, I think statistically was the worst Power 5, Power 4 defense in the country. But Cam Scatterbo is pretty awesome to Watch. Pretty awesome to watch. This is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Dan Byer. I'm Doug Gottlieb. All right, coming up next, we'll take one final look back AT Sports in 2024. They said what? You'll hear it next. But first, cars today are built to last, but how they look is up to you. That's where Mako comes in. We specialize in cosmetic repairs, from affordable paint jobs to fixing those annoying dents and dings. Maybe your car's paint is faded or you've been meaning to fix that scrape from the grocery store parking lot. Whatever it is, Mako has you covered. Here's the best part. We offer free estimates. Stop by your local Mako and find out just how easy it is to refresh your ride. With more Americans keeping their cars longer, now it's time to protect your investment. Keep it looking sharp for years to come. At Mako, we're a proud trusted partner for drivers across the country. Whether it's giving your car a fresh coat of paint or fixing up those everyday dents and dings, Mako is here to keep your car looking its best. Visit your local Mako today for a free estimate and see how easy it is to bring new life to your ride. Uh oh, better get makeup.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Beyer
Doug Gottlieb. Dan Beyer in for Dan Patrick and the Danettes. So, Dan, we did this yesterday. This is basically Jason doing a ton of work and going and finding some cool sound from 2024, right? And we like, we just. This happened in 24. And you and I can go back and forth and what we remember about it, we called it. They said what? Hold up now. Wait a minute.
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Dan Patrick
They said what?
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D
Now, Doug, before we get into this, I do need to bring Dan on because he had, after the fact, he had a better idea on what to name the segment. What. What did you. What do you want to do?
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Doug Gottlieb
So this aired yesterday. Last year, guys. It aired last year. I thought that the segment should be called what did we hear this year instead of they said what?
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D
Much more catchy rhyming aspect. Yeah, Alliteration and rhyming.
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Dan Beyer
You had him at alliteration. That's like, that's, that's. That's basically. That's him. You had me at hello. You had J. Stu at alliteration.
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D
Exactly right. Exactly right.
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Dan Beyer
You had him in alliteration.
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D
The. And what I wanted to do today is that we had so much left on the cutting room floor. And you know when, remember when people bought DVDs, they came with deleted scenes as a bonus I always thought that was a little overrated. Like, if the deleted scenes were so good, why weren't they just in the original cut? But anyways, this is like the deleted scenes from yesterday's. They said what? And it's still great sound. And it's a reminder of, like, things that happen that are still pretty topical today. For example, I wonder if you think Jerry Jones would want these words back, but he has since doubled and tripled down on the comments, so maybe he didn't want them back. But this was the original all in comments from February.
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Dan Beyer
I would anticipate with looking ahead at our key contracts that we'd like to address. We'll be all in. I would anticipate we'll be all in at the end of this year. So when you say, is there any thought, I think Will Strainer will push.
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Doug Gottlieb
The hell out of it, will be going all in on different people than.
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Dan Beyer
You'Ve done in the past. We'll be going all in. We've seen some things out of some.
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Doug Gottlieb
Of the players that we want to.
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Dan Beyer
Be all in on. And yes, I would say that you will see us this coming year. Not building for the future is the best way.
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D
I don't say it.
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Dan Beyer
And that ought to answer a lot of questions.
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D
Now, guys, all in is a catchphrase that is most kind of tied to Texas hold'em. I think it's ironic that a guy that lives in Texas and made billions of dollars in Texas doesn't quite know what the term all in is. He had a lame duck coach coming into the season. He signed Dak Prescott, I think, on the final day of the offseason, and he didn't spend any money on free agents, which was kind of the opposite of all in. It was like frugal and kind of responsible financially. The opposite of all in. No.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yes.
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Dan Beyer
Again, I think that in Jerry's mind, they took care of most of the contracts that needed to. And the all in was they weren't, you know, they weren't playing for the future. They're playing for the now. But you're definitely, you're definitely right. Right. That if this is all in, I'd hate to see what it looks like when they're not all in.
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Doug Gottlieb
Well, yeah, that, that it just, we, we have taken the all in and shorten it when you hear that whole thing. He completely did the opposite. He tried to, he tried to explain away what all in meant throughout the year, but knowing that original soundbite. He said, no, it's not about building for the Future. It's about winning this this year and doing it this year. Now locking up Dak Prescott and CD Lamb may have been for this year, but those are also long term moves.
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Dan Beyer
Correct.
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Doug Gottlieb
Because of the contracts that you know, you've laid out. So I just. Yeah, it just. It's complete lie. That's all it was.
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Dan Beyer
Let's get to. Let's get to a basketball one. Don't you have a basketball one from February as well?
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D
I'm guessing you've wanted to do this after one of your games. Doug. Rick Pitino decided to use exactly zero filters when talking about his St. John's team after a loss.
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Dan Beyer
We are so non athletic that we can't guard anybody without fouling. I don't think they move well laterally. I don't think they're going to pick it up in the next week. I think they're slow laterally. I mean Sean Conway gives you everything he can. He's slow laterally. About five guys have slow laterally. Even the Celtics when we lost. I've enjoyed every minute being a Boston Celtic coach. Didn't like the fact that we lost in that following year. But this has been the most unenjoyable experience I've had since I've been coaching. Do you have any second thoughts of taking this job? No, not at all. It's not St. John's it's my team. I think they're very respectful. They hear but they don't listen. It's taken me a month to get them to throw bounce passes. Actually two months to throw bounce passes. Just thinking of getting ready for Georgetown because Georgetown could definitely beat us. I'm not even thinking of the future at all. I'm just thinking of the next game and the next game and the next game and that's it. They actually end up winning some games after that, including the Georgetown. Although Georgetown was terrible last year. Yeah, that was, that was, that was a lot.
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Doug Gottlieb
It's not you.
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Dan Beyer
It's the least enjoyable experience I've ever.
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Doug Gottlieb
Do you wish you wouldn't have taken the St. John's job? No, no, no. It's not St. John's it's my players.
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Dan Beyer
I just, I just don't like those guys. That's amazing.
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D
Nothing to do with St. John's it's definitely unathletic players.
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Dan Beyer
No come. No comment from my end. None.
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D
So, so many people, I guess put their foot in their mouth about Caitlyn Clark over the past year. She was by far the most controversial sports figure of the year. And then Greg Doyle, longtime columnist for the indie star. He's kind of a different eccentric guy, definitely leans left, but that has nothing to do with this comment. He had a, A she was at the introductory press conference and he had this exchange with her. Hi, Caitlin.
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Dan Beyer
Greg Doyle, IndyStar.
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D
Real quick, let me do this.
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Dan Beyer
You like, you like that?
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Doug Gottlieb
I like that you're here.
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Dan Beyer
I like here.
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Doug Gottlieb
I do that at my family after every game. So.
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D
Okay, well start doing it to me and we'll get along just fine. So question is, so Greg was taken off of any fever duty. He couldn't cover the fever for the rest of the season and maybe forever. I think he apologized in some way, shape or form. But a very disturbing sound bite there.
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Dan Beyer
Well, he did the heart thing, which is the Taylor Swift heart thing. And that is something she does. Just, I don't know. Like Greg eccentric is the perfect word. I kind of think he got railroad this deal. Like Greg, the last thing he wants to do is he's just weird. Just, he's a different dude. Talented writer, sort of weird, kind of Mr. India's a writer, whatever. And yeah, I don't know, I think people didn't know how to handle the Caitlin Clark thing. And I also think that it's pretty obvious that women really don't know how to handle all the attention she got, you know, and that everything becomes sexist, racist, like, or this is just sports and we're just trying to cover a Halley's comet that has our attention.
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Doug Gottlieb
You mean news outlets don't give a heart to the president right before the press conference or news conference and then he gives one back? The great part about. Well, there's nothing great about that clip, but there is one hidden. It is all cringe worthy, especially actually when you know what happens, you know what's going on, the cackling in the background. We always make fun of the fake laughter that we get with exchanges when coaches say something that's not even remotely funny. But this was more of a pep rally, media combo thing. This wasn't like just a media session thing. But there are people just cackling in the background too, just thinking how great it was. So wrong.
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Dan Beyer
The whole thing was just so. Everything was just so weird about it.
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D
I don't know, but you talked about how like the WNBA themselves didn't like the way they were covered.
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Dan Beyer
So as you said, they don't like anything unless you just say you're great, everybody loves you, you're better than the NBA, you're better than everything. And we're all idiots for not covering you for 25 years.
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D
I think one of the. One of the morons over on ESPN had said that when Caitlin Clark was eliminated from the playoffs, that now he's looking forward to seeing coverage that's empowering to women. At least now that Caitlin Clark's gone, the ratings might not be up, but at least we'll have empowering coverage. So LeBron James actually weighed in. Everybody had a thought on this, and LeBron James weighed in defending Caitlin Clark.
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Dan Beyer
The one thing that I love, that.
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Doug Gottlieb
She'S bringing to her sport, more people want to watch, more people want to tune in.
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Dan Beyer
Don't get it twisted. Don't get it up. Caitlin Clark is the reason why a.
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Doug Gottlieb
Lot of great things is gonna happen.
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Dan Beyer
For the wnba, but for her individually, I don't think she should get involved on nothing that's being said.
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Doug Gottlieb
Just go have fun.
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Dan Beyer
Enjoy, you know, But I'm rooting for Caitlin because I've been in that seat before. I've walked that road before. I hope they. I hope she kills. I hope Aaliyah Boston does amazing. You know, I hope they do great.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah.
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Dan Beyer
I mean, he has, on some level, walked it. It's got to be. I just can't imagine carrying an entire sport and the sport fighting you carrying it right now. Look, there was a little of that with. With Jordan early on, a little bit. Okay. Because they weren't very good, but not much. Not much with Magic and Bird, there was none of it. With Kobe, there was some of it right where Jordan and some of the old guard, you know, he was a little much, maybe a little bit of it with LeBron, but I actually think Caitlin's caring of a sport when the sport itself doesn't want her to carry it is. Got to be really, really hard. Got to be really, really difficult. I. I just. I can't imagine.
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D
Everything she does is measured.
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Dan Beyer
Well, now it has to be. Now it has to be.
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D
You're probably wondering why, of all the sound bites in 2024, why Jeff Darlington would be one of them. You know, just a reporter that does a lot of NFL, but he covers golf, too. He was reporting on the PGA Championship, and he was an actual witness to the following event.
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Doug Gottlieb
Entering Valhalla Golf Club this morning, we witnessed a car pull around us. That was. Scotty Scheffler was in the car.
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Dan Beyer
To be very clear about the details.
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Doug Gottlieb
Here, Scotty Scheffler has been detained by police officers, placed in the back of a police vehicle in handcuffs after he tried to pull around what he believed to be security ended up being police officers. They told him to stop. When he didn't stop, the police officer attached himself to the vehicle. Sheffler then traveled another 10 yards before stopping the car. The police officer then grabbed at his arm, attempting to pull him out of the car before Scheffler eventually opened the door, at which point the police officer pulled Scheffler out of the car, pushed him up against the car, and immediately placed him in handcuffs. Scheffler was then walked over to the police car, placed in the back in handcuffs, very stunned about what was happening, Looked toward me as he was in those handcuffs and said, please help me. He very clearly did not know what was happening in the situation. It moved very quickly, very, very rapidly, very aggressively. He has. He was detained in that police vehicle for approximately 20 minutes.
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Dan Beyer
The police officers at that point did.
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Doug Gottlieb
Not understand that Scotty Scheffler was a golfer in the tournament, nor of course, that he is the number one player in the world. I love the aspect of not looking back. And again, someone was tragically killed at Valhalla, which caused all of the commotion and the delays and the lane closures. And so that part is not funny at all. But how like Jeff, like, this was. I mean, I mean, this seriousness, now looking back on it, it was Scotty Scheffler who, again, I was completely in the wrong. I don't care if there's a police officer, if someone's wearing a vest, a security guard, you listen to him. Especially in that situation. Scotty Scheffler, completely in the wrong. But just to hear Darlington, what was that, like a minute 40 of just like a breakdown of. Of all, of all the things, like, like, you know, we have serious news in New Orleans today. And like, Jeff Darlington was delivering it at that level. It's crazy.
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Dan Beyer
It was. That was a weird one. Like, is this really happening? Is this really happening? Again, not to that level. I've had plenty of those similar moments where you guys know me. Like, if you give me a parking pass or a badge to attend somewhere, anything more than five minutes before is a good chance I don't have it when it's time to go in, Right?
- [38:49]
Doug Gottlieb
Yes.
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Dan Beyer
It's a really good chance. And, you know, I always think one of the good things about being kind of an average looking guy is you can be inconspicuous. The only bad thing about being an average looking guy is you can be inconspicuous. And there's no benefits of, you know, like, if I'm 6 foot 7 and I come walking in, everybody, oh, well, you gotta be a player or somebody knows who you are. But I would also tell you that like part of the, the Scheffler not knowing, doing the do you know who I am? You know, is like everywhere he goes, everyone knows. In his own orbit, this never happens. You know, it never happens. Everybody knows who you are. And so all of a sudden a cop who's working at the golf tournament doesn't know who you are. It's really like, what? I don't know. It was a crazy one.
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Doug Gottlieb
Then he shot 66, five under, had himself into contention, but everything caught up with him on Saturday. Yeah, yeah.
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Dan Beyer
No, it had to be, had to be a lot. I'm Doug, gotta be Dan Beyer filling in for Dan Dennett's Dan Patrick, FOX Sports Radio. Okay, so we look back at some of the crazy things or things that were said in 24. What about 25? What about 25? Who is the athlete? Who's gonna be the Caitlin Clark of 25? I don't know. We'll dig in next in the Dan Patrick Show.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Beyer
For Dan Patrick and the Danettes here on the Dan Patrick Show, FOX Sports Radio. So look, everybody does the looking back, looking back, looking back, looking back. And look, that's as much my, that's how I always do things and mentally like when you talk about goals for 2025 is doing a better job of letting things in the past go. Still learning from them, but letting things in the past go. But the best way to let go of the past and look forward to the future, which is where we bring in my good friend, Dan Beyer.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah, Doug, you know, I sat up on December 31st of 2024 watching the ball drop on the east coast and then in the central time zone and decided to look ahead to what we've got over the next 365 days. So while we did the audio thing previously, let's take a look ahead. Doug. April 7, 2025, a huge day. That's when the settlement in the antitrust lawsuit filed against the NCAA is expected to be settled. Allowing institutions to pay their athletes, likely from a pool of about $20 million per school, could ultimately eliminate some non revenue sports at schools. But yes, schools paying players here in college athletics.
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Dan Beyer
Yeah. So I will tell you again, I'm, I'm a Division 1 coach so I can tell you what it means to us, right? It means to us is that first thing, the settlement, the non power four play pay actually a disproportionate amount. It's crazy. Power four schools, really, the players didn't have any nil value to truly speak of. And yet here we got to pay more money than the Power 4 schools that have the money. And you might ask yourself why would you do that? Right. The logic is, and again, this is what I've been told from levels above that of the coaches is this is an effort to keep the NCAA tournament together for at least the next, they think the next decade, like there'll be some changes obviously going forward and who knows after that. But this people think this keeps the wolves at bay for another decade. And that's the potluck for the NCA and the nc. The way is not some nefarious organization. It's just a member of schools and voting party. So this keeps the basketball part and the Olympic sports sorted together and figures it out. And then there's basically a salary cap, right? And it's. What is it, like $14 million or something. And that's for the Power 4 schools. But yeah, you can, you have contracts with your student athletes and they have to, they have to fulfill nil obligations, which can be charity, which can be all the other things. And yeah, you're bringing in house next year. So there's still a lot of questions as to what it looks like. But the belief is that this will Be some sort of stabilization against future lawsuits. That's why they're going to the set number of roster spots. I don't know if you know this, right, that I forget how many. What's football get, like 110 or something?
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah, I thought it was 85, but expanded to 105, I believe.
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Dan Beyer
Yeah, 105. So what that means is it doesn't mean you have to give out 105 scholarships. What it means is you can't do, you can't stack the deck with a ton of walk ons, you know, and give 120 walk ons. And then what people were doing is they're paying those walk ons scholarships, paying those walk ons dues. So they just keep guys in the program. And the feeling is that again, this is taken from the pro sport model. You can't limit the number of scholarships, but you can limit the roster size and allow each individual school to decide how many scholarships you want to offer within each select sport. So for example, basketball is at 13 scholarships. Next year we go to 15 spots. Doesn't mean we have to go to 15 scholarships. It means we have to go to 15 spots. And how you allocate those resources is up to you on an individual basis. And again, the lawyers for the NCAA believe this will stop. There's not, won't be litigation against the size, the number of scholarships that you can have.
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Doug Gottlieb
Doug, you are in Green Bay. Green Bay will be the host of the NFL draft coming up in April, but not the only time that the NFL is taking the show on the road. Commissioner Roger Goodell has talked about it. In 2024, expect games in Brazil. Back in Mexico City, Spain, we found out that Ireland, Dublin, likely to host the Steelers and Packers, Germany, Berlin getting a game next season and the UK in 2025, all getting games, eight expected next year for the NFL.
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Dan Beyer
Well, and it does make sense with the 17th game, right? Remember the reason that the NBA is never going to contract the number of games they have, Major League Baseball will never. Because you have a set number of dates that everybody depends upon for your stadiums, right? And so for the NFL, for these stadiums, like when you're taking away a home game from a city that, I mean, if in Green Bay, Wisconsin, it is everything, right? Millions of. But when you added another game and that game becomes one you can toy with because it doesn't change the lease, doesn't change the number of dates in which you have. So it does in fact make sense. And then the other part to it, which this is where Goodell and his crew are. Genius. It creates new TV revenue because you have, you know, off hours of the traditional hours, you know, and that's what they've been able to do. That's how they created all that money. Then $120 million from Netfl. Absolutely brilliant.
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Doug Gottlieb
New All Star Game format coming to the NBA 4 team mini tournament taking place in San Francisco next month. Major League Baseball. Their show is going to be on the road as well. Tokyo Cubs and Dodgers opening up the season March 18th and 19th, while the Braves and Reds will play the Speedway Classic at Bristol Motor Speedway. And when we watch the All Star Game from Atlanta in July, the players will be wearing their own uniforms from their teams and not the special All Star uniforms going back to the old way.
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Dan Beyer
Good, I love that, that part, like, I don't know, the four team NBA thing, whatever that, whatever.
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Doug Gottlieb
That's your. Look ahead to 20, 25, which is now here.
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Dan Beyer
Yeah, let's look ahead or look laterally or something. All right, Tom. Doug Gallaby's Dan Beyer filling for Dan and the Danettes. What did we learn from the Fiesta Bowl? Right. Penn State dominates Boise State. What'd we learn that's next in the Dan Patrick Show?
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Doug Gottlieb
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Dan Patrick
First before you drive two hours to the big game.
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Doug Gottlieb
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Dan Beyer
What's up, everyone?
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Doug Gottlieb
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