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Dan Patrick
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Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio. I want to. Dan, I want to hit you with something, and I hope you understand this is not. I'm not saying this directed at you. I'm saying this directed at America. Okay? We are making the classic. We're making two classic mistakes in this College Football Playoff thing. And I'm just telling you now, these are massive, massive mistakes that we're doing. And I'm saying it before the College Football Playoff format is or final bracket is eventually announced. Okay, here's the two things. Here's the first one, and I didn't get into it a bunch with Twitter, but people are talking about, well, the Big 12 and the record versus the SEC and over the last 10 years and Texas struggled in the Big 12 and now they're in the SEC. And like, listen, I. You are viewing something. College sports has dramatically changed, dramatically changed in the last five years. And you're like, well, no, duh. Like, no, no, no, hold on. Okay. The SEC has always been in the modern last 25 years, it's been the best college football conference. Now, again, that doesn't mean it's always had the best team, but overall, it's been the best football conference. Dan, do you have any problem with me saying no?
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Dan Patrick
Not at all.
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Doug Gottlieb
Okay. And the reason behind it, I believe, is really threefold. Okay. The first is that there's been a migration within the United States where a lot of people have moved to the South. Let's just, it was less expensive, it's warmer. You know, there have been more jobs there. Right? Like, if you know anything about it, between South Carolina and Alabama, they've opened, you know, BMW plants, Mercedes plants. You know, like, even the auto industry has shifted to the south, okay? And so we've had a massive movement of players. So the players are there and college football players, college basketball, but college football players, they like to play close to home. So that's at least a portion of it. The second part to it is the level of investment. The level of investment has been greater in football in the SEC than it has been in many of the other conferences, especially the Pac 12 and to a lesser extent the Big 12, the Big 10, I think financially is all in. The problem is there's not as many players there as there used to be in Ohio, in Pennsylvania, in comparison to the numbers in Georgia and Florida, in Texas, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, and then I'd say the third part to it is the proliferation of college football combined with the big names, Nick Saban going back to college and Alabama and raising them up, and then everything that spread from it. But in the last five years, the transfer portal combined with nil, which means players can leave whenever they want at the end of a year, the SEC has more money, spends more money, but instead of spending it on facilities like they had the last 25 years and they already have ridiculous facilities. It doesn't mean there aren't other places with great facilities. Purdue, for example, if you've ever been, I think it's the Drew Brees Center. Like they got great facilities. What they don't have is money left over. Nor do they have players in the area. The SEC has players in the area. They have the facilities. And now you can spend money on the players and they have more money than everybody else. They are playing a different sport than the one that your team is playing in the Big 12, in the ACC, in the Big 10 and anywhere else. It's a completely different sport. It just like Ohio State, frankly, is playing a different sport than everybody else in the Big Ten. Like, don't get me wrong, I think they're well coached, they have great history, but at the end of the day, they've spent more money on their players than everybody else. And that doesn't mean you always get it right. Like if you screw up the quarterback position, you're kind of screwed. But in a sport of attrition, when your twos are as good as other people's ones and you get to late in the year, it's like it's not even close. So I understand you can use the. Hey, the Big 12 had a run there where they had all these elite quarterbacks. Those days are over. Those days are over. Every once in a while you can find a gem, you can find a diamond. You can get a guy in a seventh or eighth year. You know, Utah and Oklahoma State, they tried trotted out quarterbacks in their seventh year. This year, one barely played or didn't play in Cam Rising. The other one wasn't very good with my own moderate local mistake. But when you have more money, you can buy better quarterbacks. You can Buy better players. And that's what the SEC has. Look, I don't know how to tell you this, but they're just way better. And putting these others like SMU and Indiana in the field is a joke in terms of not what they've accomplished in the season, but how good they actually are, which is the goal of a selection meeting. And here's the other mistake that, that we're making, Dan, is we've gone from, you know what we should do is we got to make sure we include the little guy, right? That was a big thing. Got to make sure you, one of these other conferences should get a seat at the table, which I absolutely agree with to now. And again, I don't. It's not going to finish this way, but there's a world. Boise State right now based on the committee would be the number four seed. I think Boise State's good club might have the best running back in college football. Almost beat Oregon at Oregon. But if you think for one second they're the fourth best team in the country, you need to have your head examined. Because the reality is all these people that would say like, yeah, they should get a buy. They should have name one of them that will pick them to actually win a national championship. Nobody will because we all know they can't win three games in a row. They could pluck somebody off for one game, sure, but they win three games in a row. Stop it. Non college football. No chance. But we're overreacting to the years and years and years and years of the SEC and other big conferences, SEC and Big Ten, getting what we think of as special preferential treatment and getting extra teams in or getting two teams into a four team playoff when somebody else gets slighted. I think we're making those two mistakes. We're judging everything today based upon the past, which is completely different than now. And we're overreacting to the years of the little guy getting left out by giving the little guy not just a seat at the table, but a seat at the actual big boy table, which we all know they don't belong at.
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Dan Patrick
I think about 85% of what you said about the SEC I agree with. I do believe that the little guy belongs at the table because I think that's what we all love. I would love to meet the person that believes Boise State should get a first round by because I don't know if anybody actually believes that. I don't know if people actually think that the ACC champ should get a first round by to be perfectly Honest with you.
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Doug Gottlieb
No chance. They should. They're not good. I mean, they're not. And like, look, I love Cam Ward's great story. Good player, right? But like, they, they should have been beaten like two or three times. Like Cal had them dead to rights. You got to go back through their schedule. Like, they're not at the level of everybody else. What are we doing?
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Dan Patrick
This is the reason why I think that this is so intriguing, Doug. It's. I don't know if it's appropriate to say, like, we're in the middle of this. We're in the eye of this, of this storm or of college football, of this hurricane, of just moving parts. Because the reason we got to this point of where we are right now on November 29th of 2024 is because of everything being fast tracked. And what I mean is Oklahoma and Texas go to the sec, go a year early. Oregon and Washington jumped to the Big Ten earlier than we had ever planned. We knew USC and UCLA were going to the Big Ten. We did not know that Oregon and Washington were. So now you have all this conference realignment where now the Big 12 takes on this new picture and you can't get any of these conferences together to actually figure out a way to set up a playoff. So now what happens is you expand your playoff from four teams to 12 because you had a certain select window to do that within the previous format of your college football playoff, and they didn't know how to set it up. And I'm a Big Ten guy. I want the Big Ten to do well. All except Michigan. Like, when it comes down to it, that's who you're supporting. In this day and age of college sports where the SEC is supporting the sec, they're looking out for what they want. The problem is, and I think this is also what you're getting to, is in this version of it, they gave up too many seats because they didn't know what was happening. And that is what is so intriguing about what could come in the next two years when you're trying to figure out a possible 14 to 16 team playoff and you're going to assign automatic bids, this was a whole mess to begin with. And if you would have said to them, the conference commissioners and everybody involved two years ago or a year ago, and this was all being discussed, that hey, guess what? You're going to have Boise State and Miami get buys while Ohio State and Georgia and Notre Dame all have to play first round games. And we know Notre Dame's conference situation plays a part in that, but I think you'd have a real, real problem with that. And it's all of this chaos is. Nobody knew. It's almost maybe a bit like nil, right? You have no idea what exactly was going to transpire. And now you've come out with this and it's a product that is serving the wrong people. That's for sure.
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Doug Gottlieb
It's a, it, it is, it is a mess. It is a mess.
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Dan Patrick
My other, my problem, Doug, is the rankings come out on, came out on Tuesday. And you know this from your basketball days. The basketball selection committee will take their bracket, granted, more teams, but when you have 68 teams, you have to, you have to move teams off of seed lines because of possible conference matchups, head to head stuff, other funky deals. You don't get a true 1 through 68 bracket because you need to move teams around.
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Doug Gottlieb
Right.
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Dan Patrick
In this scenario here, what is being displayed on Tuesday? When they tell us to watch the college football ranking show, they just show the rankings. They don't show the bracket. So what happens is we take the rankings and then we put them into the bracket and we find out, wait, Indiana is going to play Penn State in the first round. Tennessee and Georgia are going to play again. That's not good for college football. So what is the, what is the reason to have this process of revealing the rankings when the rankings are actually there to just set up the bracket? You don't set up a bracket.
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Doug Gottlieb
Well, the other, the other part to it is, okay, we're, we're essentially penalizing teams for playing their college football, playing in their conference championship game. Like, and this was, this has always been an issue.
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Dan Patrick
Yes, we thought that could happen.
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Doug Gottlieb
Well, I don't mean necessarily punishment. And here's what I mean. One of the big issues with expanding to a college football playoff, and you and I have talked about this at length and people want to call B.S. that's fine. But a legit part of the discussion is like 16 games, a lot of games on kids. It's a lot, a lot of games. And you're like, whoa, people don't care. Like now they actually do care. And whether they care because they won't be standing by the end of 16 games. Well, like, that's what we're gonna do. You know, Ohio State loses in the, in the Big Ten championship game, then in order for them to win a national championship, they have to play 16 games. All right, 16 games. So what, like, again, what are we doing here? Like, none of this makes any sort of sense. And if you, if you think like, well, Doug Gottlieb's SEC guy, I'm not, I'm a, I'm. It's the reality, perfect example is we played Ohio State in, in basketball Monday night. And like, look, I would say Ohio State, I don't know their financials. My guess is they're a three to four and a half million dollar team. Okay, that is, that is a lot more than we have in our kitty. Right? And like again, you look at, look at the SEC basketball rankings, look at how well they're doing, look at how well Auburn's doing, Kentucky's doing, Arkansas lost a little bit. They're starting to kind of figure it out. And Texas, like, why are they so much better? Because they, they have better players. Like, what are we doing? And so in football, where it really is, again, a quarterback in many ways can stabilize that. And I think that's what happened with the PAC 12 last year is you just had, you had good invested programs, but you had all of those, you had star quarterbacks, you know, I mean, at Oregon and Washington, why were they better? Because they had fifth year star quarterbacks that were NFL guys. And that can, that can sort of neutralize the athletic advantage on some level that you're seeing when you play SEC teams. Although they didn't really play SEC teams, by and large, those are the best teams. And so in addition to putting them on a weird seed line where they got to play an additional game and putting what everyone knows to be an inferior team in terms of overall talent, doesn't mean they haven't had a great accomplishment. Like, the accomplishment should get you in the field, but get you a buy and even get you a home game is like, what? Like that's. Yeah, I, I don't see it. And again, you can say it's unfair to judge Indiana based upon the outcome of one game, but that's what's happened based upon their schedule. All we have to judge them on. They played one quality opponent all year and literally could not move the ball via the air. Couldn't. Couldn't. Now you can say, hey, it's their special teams. Like, okay. But again, even that is part of the difference in the levels of play. Like, it's a great way to. Because like you don't have your ones on special teams. Right? You usually have younger guys on special teams. Well, when you're at a house, when you're at Ohio State, like your, your twos, your special, you can pay for special teams guys. Whereas when you're at Indiana. And you're like, where are we going to save money? Like you save money on your depth. And that's just the reality to it. But we judge. We. Yeah, it's unfair to judge. I saw people who are writers, who I respect because they love college football at the end of the first half, like Indiana put them in. Put them in. They're down 14 to 7. Like what? They had a nice opening drive and they haven't done anything since. In the one game that they've played, they've literally beaten the bottom completing the cycle with Purdue this week. And that's going to be enough to put them in the field. Like what? No one thinks they're a top 12 team. They're a great story. Coaches got swag, but if you have to bet your salary on who's going to win, they wouldn't be one of the top, you know, six or what is it, eight at large teams. Not close.
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Dan Patrick
What's going to be interesting is if Texas A and M beats Texas, how that ends up falling because A and M and then go to the SEC championship game and his A and M's resume strong enough, do they make a leap? I'll just say this. This is why the SEC and the Big Ten wanted first round buys in what is the future bracket and all of the wrongs of this year and possibly next year's format will be set up. And one quick point to make because Tulane lost last night to Memphis. Tulane was on the verge of possibly overtaking the Big 12 champ to represent a conference champion in the top five conference champions. You could have a scenario where Tulane would have been higher than Arizona State or anybody else and the Big 12 could have been shut out of the 12 team playoff. Maybe not likely, but possibly so now when you're the Big 12 and the SEC and the Big 10 are saying you guys get two automatic bids but you don't get first round buys, you now take that in a heartbeat if you expand to 14 teams because otherwise you're on the verge of possibly being shut out completely. Considering how strong we think the SEC and the Big Ten are, we will.
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Doug Gottlieb
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Dan Patrick
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Doug Gottlieb
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Doug Gottlieb
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Dan Patrick
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Doug Gottlieb
Should be Obviously Tom Brady was on the call yesterday of the Giants Cowboys game, right? That was the big America's, what do we call it? America's football game. America's. I forget America's game where he's on the Cowboys Giants call. And Dan, I don't know if you heard this, okay, but this was Tom Brady said this about Daniel Jones asking to be released by the Giants.
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Dan Patrick
I don't know how the whole situation went down, but to think that you would ask for a release from a.
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D
Team that committed a lot to you.
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Dan Patrick
Is maybe different than I would have handled that. I always felt I wanted to get the trust and respect of my teammates regardless situation, knowing that I was trying.
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D
To do the best I could for.
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Dan Patrick
The team because that was the most important thing. There's just some different things that happen in the NFL and everyone makes individual choices. And I think we're all at points in our career face different challenges. I faced them in college and some things didn't go the way I wanted. But the people that mattered the most.
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Doug Gottlieb
To me were the guys in the locker room.
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Dan Patrick
I showed up every day. I don't care if they asked me to be scout team safety, be scout team quarterback. I was going to do whatever I could to help the team win.
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Doug Gottlieb
Yeah. So. So Tom Brady it like it, it sounds great to say, right? It's like, man, I would have showed up no matter what. I would have been scout team safety. The problem with it is it's so far from the reality where Daniel Jones actually offered up to be the scout team safety. The problem is that the way in which these contracts are constructed and we'll have Mark Dominic in a second, Dan. But you know, this is they can't, the Giants can't put him out there even for practice for risk of injury because if he gets hurt even at practice, well then they owe him even more money. Right. That contract is already an albatross. It gets even worse.
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Dan Patrick
There's, there's a lot to it and I also look at. Is just as Brady trying to make the transition as a broadcaster. And Mike Florio often frequent guest with Dan Patrick, obviously on the Dan Patrick Show, Florio pointed out that this is your job as an analyst to do this sort of thing to get that information. I understand that you're coming from the player's perspective, but I think a simple conversation, which was Florio's point, would have solved this whole riddle for Tom Brady. Instead, to give his perspective the way that he did.
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Doug Gottlieb
It's really interesting because I would say that if I had my analysis of. His analysis generally is he's been way overprepared, and he has. He's got to do games for a couple years and, you know, in order to truly get comfortable and just find his voice. But in this particular case, it felt like Tom Brady was. It was like his TED Talk, you know, it was like one of those Instagram reels on Tom Brady that has made him very popular, which is like, I would have shown up to work no matter what. No matter what. Like, yeah, dude, all you gotta do is make a call. You're Tom Brady. They're gonna pick up the phone, and they would have said, like, hey, look, he wanted to go there, but they don't want him around, okay? Because he can't participate if he gets hurt. Cost us more money. Like, he actually did a solid by the team by removing himself from the situation. All right, more on that to come. Let's welcome in Mark Dominic, who, of course, was the former general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, by the way, he joins us weekly on the Doug Gottlieb Show. You should check out those hits. Just download the Doug Gottlieb show podcast. Mark, am I. Am I wrong? That, like, Tom. What Tom Brady said, it's one of those, like, grandstanding. Get applause from people. Tom would show up to work no matter what, when the reality is that it's better for everybody if you decide to move on from Daniel Jones, to not have him around the organization.
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D
Morning, guys. And yeah, I agree. I hope you guys had a good Thanksgiving and hopefully enjoyed the games. But I agree with you guys. I mean, it's pretty standard. And Tom was never in this kind of position. Right? Not that where his contract is just overbearing. And the reality is the organization is moving on and walking away. And so therefore, he can't see it from that lens. But he could have been better prepared for that comment. I'm sure he faced a little bit of backlash today as deserved. But no, this Is a decision made around the table with the agent, player, club, etc. All deciding that that's the best interest. And I don't disagree that, you know, he shouldn't be there. I am sure with the injuries that it looks like, well, he could have played, they would have still got one too long. And so it is what it is.
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Dan Patrick
Is it simple enough, since we're talking about Daniel Jones, that the Vikings make this move just basically just for insurance purposes for, for the rest of the season because it seems like they have a future? What do you think was going through the mind of Quezia Dofa Menza making that signing for Minnesota?
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D
Yeah, I think. I think they're just kind of looking at all things. There's. I think they're kind of looking at it from a perspective of not sure where their quarterback is in terms of health, knowing that more than likely Sam Darnold is going to find a different home in 2025. And therefore we can already be protected with the backup quarterback and get to see him and let our coaches get to feel him, understand him and see what ticks and let our coaches have a little play with him. We've seen what they've done with Sam Darnold and making Minnesota relevant in 2024. And I think that they're trying to say, hey, let's kick the tires on this one. So I think it's a longer term movement depending on if Daniel Jones likes the environment as much as maybe they like Daniel Jones.
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Doug Gottlieb
I would also say, Mark, you tell me if I'm wrong. Okay? There's something in basketball, you have basketball families, footballs, you have football families. I think it's brilliant from Daniel Jones and his agent in that they don't really have a connection to the Shanahan tree. And knowing that system, the verbiage, how everything works. And this gives Daniel Jones, you know, the next couple of months to learn the system, which doesn't mean it works in Minnesota, but if you look throughout the league, Kevin O'Connell has connections with everybody else. It puts him in a completely different football family and gives them an opportunity. Because that's what you do, right? Like when you have a new coach, you bring in a guy who knows the system, whether starter or backup, and I think it's a brilliant move from that perspective. Could that be what the agent's thinking?
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D
Oh, I think absolutely. I think, you know, you're looking at what's the best offense right now in the NFL, who's having the most success. You're thinking those situations you're thinking who's, you know, who's been able to resurrect careers or create careers, you're thinking that situation. So it makes a ton of sense. And again, on the practice squad or anything like that, you're not married to anything as your Daniel Jones. So right now you're as much getting dated as you're trying to date. And so I think in that spot, it really works well for him to see if he enjoys the system, enjoys the coaching, enjoys the environment, or is this just a quick stop, you know, learning more and then finding a different place in 2025 when free agents or when the end of the season hits and you decide that you're going to sign your practice squad guys back or not.
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Dan Patrick
Mark Dominick joining us here on the Dan Patrick Show. We're obviously going to talk about Matt Eberflusse and the Bears. He said today he's met with Ryan Poles, has met with Kevin Warren. We'll have a meeting later on. What do you say, what are the questions you're asking your head coach after that end of game debacle yesterday in Detroit?
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D
Well, I have a hard time, you know, they complete that pass without the face, the hands of the face and they're at the 13 yard line and they have to win. Instead, they, they do get the penalty. So it's a 22 yard penalty in theory. And then they turn around and get sacked. I feel like someone and it shows you the lack of, I guess, maturity on Caleb Williams to not understand that this is a moment where you can't just wait for the call. You either got to take the time out, throw a ball to get yourself in field goal position or something on the sidelines should be taking the time out. To me that I'm Ryan Coles, I'm trying to understand why didn't we just burn the time out. I know, you know, we would have to get the ball spiked or we had to throw it to the sidelines. But how do we let the clock expire? And that to me that's a big question. And as a gm, I don't ask that question last night. I asked it this morning. It's too emotional last night. It's going to be hard to get the right answer. It's going to no. This morning you walk in with your head coach and you sit there and go, let's go through the chain of events of how that played out last night and talk to me about what you're seeing. I think Matt Eberfluss makes it through this weekend. I know he's very confident that he'll make it through the weekend. I just don't know if it's because the Bears have been playing a little better and certainly the second half was shocking for them to make a comeback. This game should have been, you know, out the door in the first half. Obviously, by the way, the Lions just kind of blundered in the red zone. But I think you hold on to Matt Eberfeuse for at least another week or two and you are going through the process. You know, Ryan Poles may not know what's going on. He might be part of the, you know, the sweeping. So, you know, to ask your general manager what's going on may not be the best question. But I think you hold on to everything for a week or two more. But behind the scenes, as a, as.
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Doug Gottlieb
You know, Kevin Warren, Mark, Mark, how do you not fire somebody? And again, and if it was just this game, okay, but they're lining up to beat the Green Bay packers, who have owned them for the better part of a decade, and the guy sits on a 46 yard field goal that gets blocked. Again, not his fault that the trajectory was so low or that the blocking was bad. It's like not technically his fault. But this is not the first. And then you go to the commander's game. Again, it's not necessarily his fault that he's got a cornerback who's dancing and celebrating while the ball is already snapped, but it is that. Like, that's his football team. Like, how do you continue? And again, Mark, you know, I got my coach. I'm actually sensitive to this thing, but how do you not fire somebody today?
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D
I just think where you at in the season, change for the sake of change of where you sit as an organization, is it really going to change the outcome? I mean, you got to look at your own staff and say, who would I want to be the head coach and why? And what.
- [33:39]
Doug Gottlieb
Maybe, maybe not. Maybe not the head coach. Like, somebody's literally got to get. Like somebody has to get. There has to be some level of accountability, doesn't there? Or you just like, hey, he's going to get fired anyway. Let's just like let him play out the string. I don't know.
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D
Well, it's like this, you know, and as you said, and you know, in the end, I don't think that he won't get fired. I just don't think they'll do it right now. But they might. But you talked about the three situations, and one was on Offense, one was on defense, one was on special teams. Now points back to it's the team not coming together. But they're also in position to beat the camp commanders. In position to possibly beat the Lions. In position to possibly beat the, you know, the Packers. So you got to look at from like we're right on the cusp of maybe things are starting to turn. Even though we're screwing up and losing these games, it's not like we're getting throttled or beat bad like we've seen some other teams. And so I think that's the only reason they're holding on. But I think change those things, it's going to happen. I don't think that's. I think that's inevitable. I just don't know if you just have to do it just to make a point to whom? Fans. They're going to stay.
- [34:41]
Dan Patrick
Can I get one more on this bearish thing? And I said this to Doug earlier, Mark, and I said it yesterday when it happened. I don't understand how in this day and age of the NFL you have a kicker that can't kick one 58 yards indoors. Is that we see guys now trying 64 yard field goals. The longest field goal in NFL history happened in that stadium yesterday. And to me, that's a, that's, that's the Bears telling on themselves that they don't even have a good enough kicker. That they by the way, wanted to settle for a 46 yarder two weeks ago. Like, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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D
No. And I don't disagree. I think we've seen certainly a change in the evolution of tickers. It's easy to make 50 orders and it does say something that you have no confidence that you can make the big kick in the big moment, especially with time running out and the odds of you're not going to convert a first down. I hated the end of the game. Like I was nauseous. I was like, there's no way they're going to lose this game. At least they're going to overtime and see if they somehow can pull off this miracle upset. But the Bears did a Bears thing and I know that that goes back to Doug. What you're saying is somebody's got heads, got a roll. I just, you know, no one not knowing the McCaskey family, but knowing the overall run with Devin Warren, I just think that they're probably, we fire him. Maybe we don't want to win more games. Maybe we're in a position where we're comfortable where our draft pick is right now, even though it's not ideal that we're not in a bad spot based off of meeting that first round pick going forward.
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Doug Gottlieb
No, that's, listen, that's the only. I told Jason Stewart, our producer, like, that's the only viable explanation that I would actually go like, okay, that makes it make it look so, like, such a mess. Like, oh my God, I can't believe we lost this game. And then you go in the locker room like, dude, we lost that game. We keep our draft pick. That's the only thing that could, that could get you out of jail free. It was, it was. I'm with you. I'm watching with my coaches and we're, we just finished Thanksgiving dinner and we were all like, oh, okay, what do we have to prepare for that? We have not, because this looks terrible. It just looked. I cannot believe how that game ended. Mark Dominick joining us here on the Dan Patrick show with, with Dan Byron. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Dan and the Danettes. Do the Dolphins have a cold weather problem or a TUA problem?
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D
I want to lean towards more of a cold weather. You know, obviously the very tough game for them as well, where, you know, they had a chance to kind of close the game out in Lambeau, but they couldn't. I got to give credit to Jeff Hapley, the defensive coordinator. They did a good job of making it difficult on TUA and, you know, being able to stuff them in the red zone and then turn around and gets pressures and sacks. I think that Jeff Hapley's done a really good job with the defense for the most part. And then, you know, I think it's more. Again, it's, it's not. I think two is in a good spot. I think he's going to be okay as long as he stays healthy. I don't think some Dolphins are sitting there going, we got to get a different quarterback. I think it was more just, I think you got to give credit to the defensive side of Jeff as the coordinator.
- [37:44]
Doug Gottlieb
Well, it was, it was a, it was a dominating performance. No interceptions from, from Jordan Love, which is the first this year. And the packers look like they're playing their best, best football. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving, Mark. We love talking football with you. Enjoy your Black Friday sports and we'll talk to you next week.
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D
Yeah, very curious to see what Aiden O'Connell does today for the Raiders. Then the whole season we've been waiting to see if he's any good. It doesn't really matter so much, but it does to the Raiders brass to see if he can do anything against his Chiefs today. So it'll be fun to watch.
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Doug Gottlieb
It will be fun to watch. He's Mark Dominic. He joins us weekly on the Doug Gottlieb show. Also here on Fox Sport Trader coming up next, he's Dan Byron. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Dan. The Danettes. Is the price right or wrong? That's next.
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Dan Patrick
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Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio.
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Dan Patrick
How crispy are the new Delimex Crispy Quesadillas?
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Doug Gottlieb
Let's see.
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Dan Patrick
I'm gonna pop one in the microwave. Yeah. Delimix Crispy Quesadillas are crispy Even from a microwave. I can already smell it.
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Doug Gottlieb
Heads up.
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If you hate loud crunching, you might want to mute. Mmm. So crispy. Like barely hear myself think crispy. These should come with a warning. If this crispiness is making you hungry, get to your closest grocery store for Deli Mex Crispy quesadillas in the frozen aisle.
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Doug Gottlieb
In the meantime, let's play a little prices right with Dan Byer.
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Dan Patrick
Dan yeah, Doug. Round two here on the Dan Patch show today. Some great items up for bids. Earlier in the in the show we had a Rachel Gunn aka Ray Gun hologram trading card valued at $6 went to Chris Perfett, I believe, for $3. A great bid by Chris Perfett. The Matt Eberflusse autographed helmet mini helmet valued at $124.99 went to Jason Stewart's for a mere 49.99. And then that LA Times from 1998 that was highlighting the wooden classic with Doug Gottlieb on the COVID went to Doug gottlieb. He bid $1, brought it home for $8.33. So everybody has come home a winner so far in the prices. Right? Let's see how we do with round number two, the first item up for bids. Boy, has she been the story. I would imagine at some point in the next week or so, we're going to find out that Caitlin Clark is going to be the Sports Person of the Year for Sports Illustrated. How great would it be to have a Caitlin Clark acrylic Christmas ornament with her in an Indiana Fever uniform? Well, it can be yours if you go to ebay right now. But instead, we're going to bid on this item here on the Dan Patrick show with Doug Gottlieb and the rest of us. All right, Doug, your first up, your first bid on the Caitlin Clark acrylic Christmas ornament featuring her in a fever uniform.
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Doug Gottlieb
I'm gonna go.
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Dan Patrick
This is an active listing on eBay.
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Doug Gottlieb
2999.
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Dan Patrick
All right, Jason Stewart, I'm gonna say this knowing that There's a certain segment of our listening audience right now who's yelling at their radio. Why isn't Angel Reese on that ornament with her? What was Doug's bid? Doug bid 29.99. $30. $30. Jason Stewart, playing the game Crispr Fett, your final bid.
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Mark Dominick
I.
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Dan Patrick
Do ornaments really cost $30?
- [43:54]
Doug Gottlieb
Hey, Kevin Clark wins. Maybe you don't have to, like.
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Dan Patrick
I'm gonna go lower.
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Doug Gottlieb
I'm gonna.
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Dan Patrick
I'm gonna go.
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Mark Dominick
I don't know.
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Dan Patrick
16. $18.
- [44:03]
Doug Gottlieb
$18.
- [44:04]
Dan Patrick
All right. Oh, you guys all over bid? You all over bid? Yes. You're gonna have to rebid. $16 was the lowest bid. Douglas. 9.99. Okay. Jason Stewart. $10. $10. All right, crisper Fett.
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Doug Gottlieb
I'll go a little bit higher.
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Mark Dominick
I got to think it's in between.
- [44:26]
Doug Gottlieb
$12.
- [44:27]
Dan Patrick
$12.
- [44:28]
Doug Gottlieb
Why would you. Never mind.
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Dan Patrick
That's all right. We have a perfect bid. We have a perfect bid here on the Dan Patrick show Price is Right version. And it was the person who bid. 999. Doug Gottlieb. Hit it right on the head. Doug, just reach into my pocket, grab that nice $100 bill. That's not a $100 bill, Doug. Go ahead, grab it. You got the perfect bid. 999 for a Caitlin Clark acrylic Christmas.
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Doug Gottlieb
Academy and all the people who made this possible.
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Dan Patrick
All right. There had been some controversy not only with Angel Reese, but here on Fox Sports Radio on who has been more popular. Caitlin Clark or Aaron Judge. Well, guys, up for bids now. A tops Garbage Pail Kids card. 1 of 99 foil card. Ungraded. Aaron Judge, aka Aaron Apple. Aaron Apple. Not arson Judge. Which would have. Would have been great. That would have been a great Garbage Pail Kid. Jason Stewart, your bid for the tops Garbage Pail Kids. Aaron Apple. Aaron Judge. One of 99 foil card. Just let the record reflect that I was a penny off of the last one. A one penny. And I lost. But you overbid, too.
- [45:55]
Doug Gottlieb
You know, who cares?
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Dan Patrick
I don't remember that part.
- [45:57]
Doug Gottlieb
Do you know who cares? Nobody. Nobody.
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Dan Patrick
24.99. 24.99. Garbage Pail Kid of arson. Apple Judge. Perfette, were you a garbage pail collector by any means? I was not. Sorry, what was your bid again, Jason?
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Doug Gottlieb
Too young.
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Dan Patrick
24.9.
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Doug Gottlieb
24.99. I'm gonna go $28.
- [46:17]
Dan Patrick
28. Doug, were you a collector?
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Doug Gottlieb
I was. I wasn't collector. I had a ton of Garbage Pail Kids, and I. I grew up for people who don't know In. In the El Medina area of the city of Orange Barrio El Medina was abutted our area. And so there's a little liquor store in there. I'd walk up blocks in there. And in that area, nobody bought the garbage bill kids except for me. So I love garagebill kids. Perfect's bid was what?
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Dan Patrick
28. 28 bucks.
- [46:46]
Doug Gottlieb
I'll do $1.
- [46:48]
Dan Patrick
All right. And the actual retail price of this Aaron Apple garbage Pail Kid price is $40. Chris Perfett, it is yours.
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Mark Dominick
Hell yeah.
- [46:57]
Dan Patrick
You get it for 28 bucks. All right. It's deja vu all over again. In our final bid, our final item up for bids. A year ago, we found out that Doug's 2023 NBA con lanyard that was autographed was up for sale. No one has bought it within the last year. Chris Perfett, your first bid for Doug Gottlieb autographed lanyard. An autographed lanyard.
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Doug Gottlieb
You're autographing lanyards, Doug. Somebody asked me to sign it and then they sell it.
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Dan Patrick
Doug's Garbage Pail Kid would be Hound Doug. Hound Doug. I looked it up.
- [47:30]
Doug Gottlieb
Hound Doug. I like that.
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Mark Dominick
Okay, I'm gonna go.
- [47:32]
Doug Gottlieb
So it's a lanyard.
- [47:33]
Dan Patrick
I like lanyards. I'm gonna go 9.9999. All right, Doug, for your own autograph.
- [47:40]
Doug Gottlieb
Autograph. We'll go $10, 10 bucks.
- [47:43]
Dan Patrick
Jason Stewart. Wow. I'm gonna go 1999. 1999. And the actual retail price on ebay right now of Doug's autograph night. 2023 NBA con autograph lanyard is 29.99. Jason Stewards. Yes. Doug's lanyard at the great price of 1999. I think I was.
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Doug Gottlieb
Nobody's actually purchased it, so you could probably get it for $1. Think of it that way. Did you. He's dmpire. I'm Doug Golly. This is the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. What did we all watch with the Bears Loss. I just. We'll try and put words to those actions next on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest. Life comes at you fast. Which is why it's important to find.
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